How I Would Adapt Thomas And The Twins For The TV Show
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I feel like Scrambled eggs and Down the drain could work as a single HiT episode, with the added 7mins of screen time as follows:
1st act: Starts off with Thomas travelling to Edward’s branch line with the narrator stating he’s going to help while his line’s under repairs. Later, after the twins tease him, he gets so worked up about what he’d say when they next meet that he doesn’t see that the crossing gates are set against him until it’s too late, smashing through them and a farmer’s lorry that was crossing at the same time.
Bill and Ben see Thomas arrive with his “new coat of paint” and laugh about it, much to the Blue engine’s embarrassment.
2nd act: The scene transitions from a shot of Thomas’ unused outraged face to that of Bill and Ben heading down the line with a fully loaded train through the countryside, after leaving the clay pits. As they round a curve, they realise that the track is flooded (that flooded track set from Thomas and the Storyteller could be reused), and so try to rush through the water to make it to the other side. This is to be all in vain of course as the water splashes out their fires!
Back at Brendam Docks, Thomas is waiting for the Twins when the dock managers runs up to him, saying that Bill and Ben are stuck. At first, Thomas is reluctant to help, given how the pair have treated him so far, but the dock manager reminds him that the shipment is urgent and cannot be delayed or else the ship with leave without the clay.
Thomas comes to help and saves the day. Later at the sheds, the twins apologise for teasing him. Then, the Fat Controller comes up and tells Thomas that the repairs to his line have been completed and that he can return the next thing tomorrow morning. Thomas is glad that he can now be proper friends with the Twins at last and to also have experienced a new part of Sodor.
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What A Picture! Could work as a S3 episode as you said with Thomas.
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Idk for Trevor Helps Out
Nice ideas right there 👍
@@cindersandashesuk5744 Thanks!
I think for Trevor Helps Out, it takes place in S3, similar to how you would handle it.
However, there’s brief mention of Edward’s incident from Cows as to how Edward almost immediately knows what’s happened, and instead of Thomas it’s BoCo that nearly collided with the trucks.
I really love watching your videos, keep up the good work! 👍
The idea of Thomas interacting with Bill and Ben is genius. The three are very cheeky and love to tease others. They are the perfect set of characters to have quarrel with each other.
Couldn't agree more
@@cindersandashesuk5744 Hear me out, what if it starts with Thomas telling Fergus the story of how he first met and worked with the twins
I feel like Boco should have been in the adoption of this as another character for Thomas that interact with seeing as the 2 have never interacted in either the books or the TV series
There are a lot of characters that BoCo could interact with!
Now that I think about it, there seems to be a good few characters that Toby barely interacts with, if at all!
Considering how big the writers were on pushing Thomas into the spotlight and that Bill and Ben were in these stories they could’ve easily put these stories in the show but since they weren’t all that big on adapting Christopher’s stories it isn’t that surprising. Any easily annoyed character like Toby one of the Scottish Twins or Oliver who’d definitely get bothered by Bill and Ben could’ve also taken Thomas’ role too if you wanted someone else interacting with them instead, or even Mavis on seeing how she’d interact with them with her original personality when first meeting them.
Agreed. As fun as the dynamic between Thomas and the Twins is, there are plenty of serviceable characters that could take his place in these stories.
Toby is absolutely not easily annoyed, but if anyone can get to him, it's Bill and Ben.
@@EndUA-camShorts_ Toby does get annoyed a bit when others are being bothersome like with James Mavis and Philip and while he doesn’t outright lose his mind and snap, he is more prone to irritation than Edward is
I honestly wonder how remaking this whole book with those ideas in mind would go down. Definitely would sound fun to try.
Hey Cinder. I'm also planning my own adaption of the Railway Series. This one, taking into account of the revelations in "The Island of Sodor: It's People, History, and Railways", plus characters from the model & CGI series, but with alternate personalities and attitudes, plus several events from all three universes being either different or entirely fictional.
There are two things in this book that I could never wrap my head around: BoCo’s absence and Thomas being too heavy for the river bridge. I always figured that Daisy would be heavier than Thomas, due to the fact that she’s clearly bigger than him. When I was younger, my mom suggested that she was probably made of a lighter material, but I wasn’t too sure. So I think that I would make this change: instead of the river bridge, it’s BoCo that needs repairing, and Thomas is called to do his work for him. I don’t really mind whether Thomas or BoCo is the main focus of the book, but I do agree that BoCo deserved more attention.
And another thing, if these stories were televised, the end of “Scrambled Eggs” would have been the perfect opportunity to use Thomas’s unused snarling face mask.
The BR Class 101 is 32.5 tons, since Daisy is a Class 101, I’m assuming she weighs 32.5 tons too. As for Thomas, I can’t figure out his weight but he seems like a similar weight. I’ll be back when I fugue out his weight.
@@joshuaW5621 The real life E2s weighed 52 tons
Diesels are usually lighter. They have more empty space, and Steamies are made of cast iron.
Well, at the very least, it could make for some work-around if it was adapted out of order from the timeline of the books, kind of similar to what season 3 did with its episodes.
I would like to see Thomas gets his photo taken and then rubs it to the twins face. And to watch Thomas rescues Bill from being stuck would be amazing in the tv show. To watch an actual storm going all hard on it.
I would just like to say that your Adaptions sound very interesting!
Here's how I would adapt the Thomas and the Twins Trilogy:
Scrambled Eggs and What a Picture! are merged into one episode and they take place during the events of Tale of the Brave as well Trevor Helps Out and Down the Drain. And the reason the bridge on Thomas' Branch Line was from the events of Washout! leading to the events of Tale of the Brave.
Thanks for the kind words!
I love you're adaptation idea too! Very clever! :)
I would have adapted it for Series 3 but have Down the Drain happen after Scrambled Eggs and have Thomas still be sour after the accident and be forced to bank the train that the twins would pull instead of just Ben, and Thomas would pull them out of the lake whilst it would still be raining.
For the other two stories, I think that What a Picture could follow Heroes, with Percy being the one to monitor the twins’ behaviour instead of Edward and Thomas being the one to crack the joke about the picture.
I would have adapted Trevor Helps Out for Series 7 as a bookend to Edward and Trevor’s friendship.
Perhaps the stories could have been adapted in Season 3, when Thomas' line was being repaired, similarly to how the Els Bridge was being mended in the book. I believe it was adapted that way in the fandom already, though.
I think it was Suddery Station Master...
A solid idea 💡:)
@@cindersandashesuk5744 I think the book should have been adapted in season 18 to 20 because the clay pits were just reintroduced in tale of the brave so It would have been the perfect opportunity
Thomas and the Twins. This book is nostalgic to me. I had it as an audiobook but didn't see the illustrations until 2007 when I bought The New Collection.
It's nice to see Trevor, Bill and Ben, but it was the first RWS book where Thomas was clearly shoehorned in. BoCo's absence is another strike against it.
Me, personally? Replace Thomas with anyone who is either uptight, proud or moody.
personally i would have the stories take place after thomas & stepney. since thomas is too heavy for the bridge during repairs, sir topham hatt would have stepney run ffarquhar & thomas would go to brendam.
well according to unlucky tug’s video on the tvs time line ever since the clay pits closed the twins have worked at farquhar quarry that being ok thomas’ branch line, so thomas probably most likely that thomas had already interacted with the twins but off screen.
I'm well aware of that. Anyway, saying that it happened off screen is boring and lame. Not having Thomas interact with the twins that work at the quarry on his branch is a colossal missed opportunity.
Tale of the Brave already did that story plot a bit.
You're correct, it certainly did take a bit of inspiration from the book
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great video
Thank you and happy belated birthday! 🎂
@@cindersandashesuk5744 thank you
Pretty good adaptation.
Can I just say I enjoy your adaptation discussions quite a bit?
They take the limitations of the model series into account, makes some adjustments to the stories for this reason and that and they're well thought out.
Can't wait to see what you got up your sleeve with James And The Diesels.
You certainly can say that :) Thanks for the kind words and hopefully James and the Diesels is enjoyable :)
Yeah I'd put these stories in S4 so S4 could be more of a Thomas season considering Percy has more lead roles than Thomas in S2, S5, & S6.
I like your synopsis and I'd probably do the same as you've suggested here, except I'd take the latter option and replace Thomas with Boco, we don't need to shoehorn Thomas into every single story/event
Thanks Tom :) Yeah Boco deserves more love! The dynamic between Thomas and the Twins is fun and entertaining but we can't deny our favourite metrovic Diesel more screen time :)
I had the idea to adapt them in Season 4 along the same time Special Attraction takes place.
I am digging these videos! The Chris Awdry stories do deserve more! I do enjoy the characterization of the engines and the arcs they have at times.
Thanks, there's more to come!
Chris' stories definitely need some more recognition as there are quite a few hidden gems!
Imagine if after the rescue in the adaptation with the drain Edward mentions Edwards exploit
That line in Bill, Ben and Fergus makes me assume that the events of Thomas and the Twins probably did happen in the tv series offscreen. It would make sense if that is the case.
Agreed. Shane we didn't get to see it :(
great! soon it would be cool to see a story from mountain engines!
I like your idea on how you would adapt the Thomas and the Twins Saga. If anything, I would put the Thomas and the Twins Saga in Series 4 (giving Bill, Ben and Trevor more screen-time in Series 4). I would replace Thomas' role with BoCo in What a Picture and have Thomas rescue both Bill and Ben in Down the Drain. I would either have Edward keep his roles in Scrambled Eggs and Down the Drain or have BoCo replace Edward's roles in Scrambled Eggs and Down the Drain.
You know, if the showrunners had decided to go back to the season 3 method of mixing both original and book stories, I can see the 1st, 2nd and 4th stories fitting within series 6's more lighter and comedic tone. Especially Scrambled Eggs.
The 3rd story, Trevor Helps Out, I can probably see working regardless, just replace Thomas with another engine that would normally be working on the branch line Edward and the twins would be (like Boco), and it could work as a more self-contained episode in any later seasons.
Or Derek or Salty.
@@ciarangleeson2880 Those too.
Or Porter or Marion or Timothy.
IM STILL WATING FOR THE OCEAN LINER VIDEO and I did made princess alice in roblox
Can you please make a video about how Donald And Douglas meet bill and Ben for the first time 🚂🚂🚂🚂
I would make it take place in the CGI series, during tale of the brave!
"Leaving their vanity.. all in vain."
Du-du Chhh!
One thing that recently bothered me about this book is how this was not made after the book "Main Line Engines". Why? Wouldn't Thomas have known Bill and Ben even prior to the events of the book? Why did it take until early 1988 that Thomas would meet Bill and Ben for the first time if the time period the book is set in could have been set much before the late 1980's? Time gaps have always been my problem with the Railway Series ever since I have seen SamTheTrainFan's history video regarding the Arlesdale Railway and why the timeline in it created some major plot holes, and not to mention, The Unlucky Tug's Railway Series timeline video didn't help the fact Thomas' "first winter" on Sodor took place around 1947, which I agree with him on that.
I even call bullshit over the fact Thomas would have met Terence in 1947 and then Bertie in 1948 after he being rescued by the American built tractor on caterpillar tracks. The time gaps in "More About Thomas the Tank Engine" made even less sense let alone this book was meant to take place after the events of the 1946 book, "Thomas the Tank Engine". And it's no wonder why I consider most time gaps as bullshit.
I think it's a shame BoCo doesn't appear in "Thomas & The Twins" but in my headcanon BoCo is working on the main line during the events of this book (around 1988-90). It's around this time that my original characters "Derby" and "Matlock" (two diesel units that work on the Norramby branch and to / from the Other Railway) meet up with BoCo at Barrow & Vicarstown. As their names suggest, Derby & Matlock ran on the Derby - Matlock line during their trial service on British Rail. At around this time, BoCo's brother CoBo (D5705) was stored in the old Matlock goods shed. BoCo is surprised when Derby & Matlock recognise him as a Metropolitan Vickers Co-Bo!
This starts a train of events leading to CoBo joining the NWR (in about 1990-91); I imagine the annual story "BoCo's Twin" takes place just before CoBo's arrival, as BoCo & CoBo get back at Bill & Ben ("Double Diseasel")!!!
I imagine the China Clay works closed down after the events of "Heroes" (which takes place after this book and "BoCo's Twin" / "Double Diseasel") after the rockfall makes it unsafe.
Today the China Clay Works is now a museum and country park, with Bill & Ben working brake van specials bringing the visitors from Edward's tourist trains.
Edward is now semi retired and now works tourist trains on the Brendam branch but he no longer banks trains up Gordon's Hill since the events of Edward's Exploit, as Duck assists Henry in "Fish".
"Heroes" must take place after the events of "Edward & the Cabbages" (1995) as BoCo can be seen pulling china clay wagons.
Derby & Matlock are prototype units built for comparative trials on British Rail. More about their basis here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_151
can you do a video of how you would put the tugs universe into the Thomas universe and how it would work
I actually have an idea for this in mind! I guess great minds think alike :)
Can You Do The Culdee Fell Railway Next, or Very old Engines or Thomas and the evil diesel
I do have plans for those stories ;)
Some people say they would adapt Scrambled Eggs & Down the Drain into one episode called Thomas & The Twins as the book is called and honestly I think I would too
That could work pretty well
@@cindersandashesuk5744 yeah because Bill & Ben would get the 1st laugh in one half of the episode based on Scrambled Eggs and then Thomas would get the 2nd laugh in another half of the episode based on Down the Drain
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Thanks! :)
How would you adapt Great little engines?
I guess we'll see in the future ;)
I know the standings for James and the Diesel engine
For old stuck up class 40 for the diesel that helped James out Boco
Can you do one of very old engine
I would only change down the drain and I would make it bill who went down the drain
somebody replied to one of my comments
2:22 why is it Bill and Ben who have to tow the ship in why couldn't they use a tugboat or something
The says that the tide is going out, so perhaps it was already too low to risk bringing a tug in.
@@cindersandashesuk5744 oh ok thanks for telling me
i wonder how boco's return to cgi would be like if boco did return, and i wonder what boco's life was like before he came to sodor
I’d love to see his render based directly on the real Class 28s.
Here's a challenge for you: Mountain Engines. With Mountain Engines, there's the matter of the engines having two faces, and Godred's "death". I can imagine Shane Dooiney, Alaric, and Eric would be strictly dummy props while a single powered chassis would be shared by Godred (Bad Lookout), Ernest (background), and Wilfred (Danger Points, Devil's Back, and background). Only Culdee and Lord Harry/Patrick would be 100% functional. There would probably have only been two coach models (Catherine being one), and one "Truck" prop for rolling stock.
What about Godred?
@@ciarangleeson2880
What do you mean?
Would he have a dummy model, a powered model or what?
@@ciarangleeson2880
Probably powered. He would share a chassis with Wilfred since Godred would only need it for Bad Lookout. The real question about Godred is, how to include his "death".
I’d say exclude the part about him being taken to pieces and just have him kept in the back of the shed. That way, there’s no need to say that the story was made up.
Did you ever do the James stories?
I need to watch these stories some time…so many fun ones not used
I think it would work as a Season 4 episode
For James and the diesel engines story one old Stuck Up I would have used for old stuck up Daisy and making her sayHow highly sprung She is
Or you could just paint Bowler’s model blue and maybe give him a different face.
You should start doing the books bud. Can you do Gordon the high speed engine please
After the James book how about Gordon the high speed engine instead of Pip and Emma how about a A4 Pacific AKA Spencer.
After James & The Diesel, do you think you could do The Culdee fell book next?
I plan on covering RWS books at some point in the future, so yes, I will be covering that one at some point!
Tugs character profile Frank the rail barge
Can you do James and the Diesel engine
I always wondered why they didn't adapt these stories they got thomas as the main ,they had the sets , and they'd already ran engines in water and intense rain I guess they didn't care for Christopher's books much but idk they could have even combined 4 stories into 2or 3 as they often did seems like a missed opportunity to me oh well btb the first time I read scrambled eggs it was pop up book and it really breezed over why thomas was on Edward's line and since it was just that story on its own I was left like well that was fun but why are bill and ben at Ffarquhar picking on thomas they should be down by the harbor I bet edward is looking for them lol
in 2015 sam wilkinson wanted to bring fergus and boco back to cgi but it didn't happen, andrew brenner also wanted to bring boco back to cgi but mattel denied it
Bastards!
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Can you do James and the Diesel engine
Already in the works :)
Thx