I saw Russell Johnson on a Foundations interview and he was saying that Tina had her "problems" (his words) even during the filming of the originals. Said she was a real pro during the shoots, but could be a bit "difficult" when not shooting. BTW, he's a pretty interesting guy. Bomber navigator in the Pacific during WW2, and was shot down and survived. Played a lot of "heavy bad guys" in a lot of Westerns during the 1950's early 60's.
Nowadays, most actors embrace their breakout role and accept the fact that they will be associated with that character forever. Back in the early days of television, many felt, as did Tina (and, hello Eve Plumb) that it essentially ruined their career through typecasting. Tina was quite vocal about this, and in an earlier video you even revealed that she would have been written out in Season 4 due to her wish to leave the production. So, I’m sure that when the movie offer came around, she wasn’t really interested, but threw out that figure knowing there was an overwhelming chance it wouldn’t be accepted, but if it was, she could cry all the way to the bank. I think I’m more recent years, she’s come to embrace the Gilligan fame (much as Eve Plumb has reconciled herself with “Jan”).
I don't think nor ever got that Eve Plumb hated her role or feared typecasting. She always came back for reunions and the spin off. The only thing she said no thank you to was the variety hour because her father and other influential people in her life said it would hurt her to do it when she had a movie lined up that would interfere. Turns out they were right because while outside of Brady's she might not have been in front of the camera much but she did well for herself behind it. I'd argue shes also probably the only Brady kid that didnt have some form of child celebrity curse. Now if you mean Maureen McCormick then you'd be right since she hated being typecast along with living up to everyone thinking she WAS Marcia, and was no small part of her escapism with drug use. (which her autobiography says that was something she still struggles with).
Ginger was crazy, everybody ages it not 1960s ginger, ginger look unreal prettiness on gillian island but wouldve lost her beauty,, she had the dallas tv role,, it probaby was it
It didn't sink in that she's the last surviving member of the cast until you said it. We've lost so many talented actors from these classic shows. Will future generations have this same loving nostalgia for newer shows like we do for these shows?
Well those classic shows were form 50 or more years ago. It is a wonder anyone who was an adult in the 1960's is still alive today. Just by average life expectancy most would be dead now.
@@davescrimshaw7781 your boomer is showing. I'm a younger generation and love the older sitcoms and constantly call out modern sitcoms for being uninspired and boring with a few exceptions that I think will be classics (Schitts Creek, Arrested Development just to name a few).
According to Sherwood Schwartz, Tina Louise was a pain through the entire filming of the series. She kept wanting more scenes, more close ups and more lines. He had to remind her that the show was called "Gilligan's Island" not "Ginger's Island"! She wanted nothing to do with the show afterward. I can't imagine the patience Sherwood had to show toward Tina when she kept changing her mind on whether to be in the reunion movie or not. Quite frankly, I thought the movie was just fine without her. She thought she was too good for the show but she doesn't seem to realize that playing Ginger is the only thing anyone recognizes her for. She should have appreciated what side her bread was buttered on.
Trouble or not Ginger, there’s only one Ginger She was the movie star And her unique personality was special I’m with everyone else that Mary Ann is by far my favorite But Ginger was special herself and an excellent contrast to Mary Ann Gilligan was always the star and Skipper were amazing together Skipper breaking the 4th wall like Laurel and Hardy Hardy like glancing at the audience The Howells were priceless
@@lazyhomebody1356 Okay, I removed that part of it. Ginger played herself I think, in a way, she was unhappy with the role but she was a professional the other cast members said. I think they also said, "she is the movie star" I just like her part, meaning she couldn' t be replaced, she was unique. It's good to have contrast in art and she was a perfect contrast to Mary Ann
I always liked Tina Louise, even in dramatic roles. But “Gilligan’s Island” was an ensemble show, not a star vehicle. After all, it wasn’t named “Ginger.” I think Sherwood did the right thing in recasting the role. To have capitulated to Tina’s demands would have been a slap in the face to the other cast members who were just as important to the show as was she. Great video, Rick!
I wouldn't have capitulated to her demands either, but on the other hand, the tv movies did suffer a bit due to her absence. Neither Judith nor Constance quite had the same "it" factor that Louise had.
Tina Louise refused to appear in the reunion movies because Sherwood Schwartz made 90 million in syndication and the cast got nothing. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
In 1978, I was 9 years old, and I fully remember when this was on. I couldn't wait to see it. At 9, you could show me anything, and I was in awe. I remember my takeaway was sheer disappointment.
This was a second reminder to Tina that the show is called Gilligan's Island and not the Tina Louise show. But, I still loved her character on the show.
Hey Rick, I remember very well Rescue From Gilligan's Island!!! I was excited to see it in 1978 & I think that Sherwood Schwartz did the right thing. Of course it would have been nice to see Tina as Ginger but the movie was great anyway!!! Thanks for sharing another fun video!!! 👍👍🏖️
Tina Louise did appear for at least one Gilligan's Island reunion which was on Roseanne back in 1995 along with Russell Johnson, Dawn Wells and Bob Denver. 🤗📺🏝🥥
I prefer t look at the "Rescue" movie like one of the show's dream sequences, in that it didn't have the "real" Ginger in it therefore it never really happened. Tina Louise created and perfected that role and no one could replace her. Regardless of whether she got along with the other cast members or not, she still had a lot of chemistry with all of the actors and it's difficult to bring someone else in and recreate that chemistry.
Tina Louise wanted nothing to do with Gilligan's Island after it was canceled, but when the castaways reassembled for a TV interview back in the 80s, she was there with them. Go figure.
Actually if you do some digging she was pretty amicable and friends with most the cast even if they weren't besties (she probably was closest with Dawn). She never wanted to be typecast and her narcissism caused a lot of conflict, especially when you consider she definitely was a star on the rise before Gilligan when you look at her credits. She felt rightly so she and the cast deserved more money because Sherwood screwed all the cast on being underpaid and syndication. Gilligan by the 80's was raking in tons of money on syndication and they never got a dime, she finally wanting to be compensated is pretty fair.
But she used the interview to advertise her latest film, and I remember Alan Hale happy and applauding loudly after the trailer, as always a very warm guy. That's not to say she didn't get on quite well (if not besties as mentioned) with the rest of the cast, particularly with Dawn Wells. I remember an interview where Louise says Dawn and her Mom had Louise and her new Husband over for Christmas dinner and taught her how to cook a soufflé.
The $1.3 million budget is negotiable. Everything is negotiable. At my last job, my department was allocated $85,000 for increases, which came out to approximately a 2% increase for the staff. At my level, I could not force the executives to allocate more funding for my department. But that does not mean that the money did not exist. The CEO has a personal net worth of $50 billion. So to say that there was no funding available for an employee to get a much higher increase, is absurd. My former employer spent a ½ million on computer hardware that sat in our warehouse for 5 years. Why? because someone else's budget allowed them to spend the money, and they did, so that they would not have their budget cut for the next year. So my team was offered $85,000, while in our warehouse, $500,000 worth of hardware was sitting on shelves, going down in value. My point is that if Sherwood Schwartz wanted to budget another $50,000 for the show, he could have. If he did not have the final say, then someone else at the studio could have done so. NBC would not miss another $50,000. Using "It's the budget", is just a negotiating excuse. The employees hear that as "There's no more money in the vault", when the person that owns the vault can easily add more to the vault. So either Schwartz did not have the authority to increase the budget, did not have the spine to reach out to the person that could increase the budget, or simply felt that Tina Louise was not worth it.
I remember watching an interview with Bob Denver. He mentioned Tina telling him that Gilligan's Island was destroying her career. She was typecast and was no longer being offered the same types of meaty dramatic projects as before Gilligan. He went on to say that "she was correct, but she accepted the role." No actor in the early days of television could have predicted how television would shape their future careers. Another incident Mr. Denver mentioned was Tina's name in the opening credits. From my understanding, Tina always had issues with the tone of Gilligan's Island's scripts. It was her belief that she was signing on to higher quality production. So to get the full story, a person will have to research all the opinions the cast and crew had on Tina's relationship with the show during the original run and the TV movies, as well as Tina's opinion on her Gilligan's experience. Personally, I was not happy with Mr. Schwartz's replacement. Yes, Judith Baldwin fulfilled the physical characteristics, but she portrayed Ginger as an airhead. Ginger Grant was never an airhead. When the time was appropriate to achieve her goals, Ginger took on the ever-so-slight characteristics of an airhead. Casandra Peterson (Elvira) mentioned she was in the running to replace Tina. Mr. Schwartz told her that "she was his Ginger." Then one of the other producers saw her performing with the Groundlings in a gynecologist sketch. The producer was outraged. He told her that his production had no place for "her kind of element." I discovered this tidbit on IMDB. It sounds like Casandra would have been the best replacement, but would the world have lost out on Elvira?
Ginger wasn't my favorite in GI, and at the age of eight to ten, I did not understand and did not know what a production company did or was... I think TL's error was not playing better with the cards she was dealt. Yes, she wanted more and better dramatic roles but in conversations and interviews should have placed the show in its best light - a fun and light comedy carrying nice morals. And left it at that. I think she would have benefited more from an approach of the sort, "Yes, it is fun and a lot of hours and work, but I'm shopping several serious roles with the only problem being the time issue, so, the roles must be carefully selected, seriouss, relevant and allow me to artistically represent my dramatic training and talent and express my love of and becoming ever better at drama - the challenge is the little time available around what a loved and popular show Gilligan's Island is and I must accept only the rare and wonderful." Instead, her irritation, lack of respect for, and dismissal of the property and the other actors, etc., really does not speak well of her, her i.q., judgment, and more importantly, I do not think her acting life was best served by her blowing out as obviously superior to the whole shooting match.
Being a lifetime fan of the show and still to this day watch it daily, I was very disappointed when Tina Louise, didn’t appear on the rest of the films made after. I think everyone would always relate her to Gilligan’s Island because of it being such a hit but it really hasn’t stopped many others actors and actresses from moving up and on. I really think she had a thorn in her side over the Mary Ann versus Ginger that she could never seem to remove, hate to say that. If she would have just went ahead and agreed to do the movies I think it would have helped her out more for her future career. I think in my opinion by her not agreeing to make the films came across to many potential future producers as her being hard to deal with, spoiled, snobby, I’m too good to associate with common actors, worth more than I think I am. There could never be another Ginger, she was perfect for the character and people for ages will continue watching that show, it’s that good!
I remember the Rescue movie and thinking hey, that’s not Ginger, so it kind of ruined the movie for me. But she’s the last survivor, so it looks like Tina Louise gets the last laugh!
always wondered why she didn't play ginger in rescue from giligans island Tina Louise was hard to replace ginger beautiful her sexy charm and those eyes and smile so now I'm realizing why she didn't come back to play ginger now interesting facts and info thanks for sharing Rick once again great video buddy
BTW… I think Kurt Russell should also be mentioned as a “last surviving cast member”. (Though he only did one episode.) I wrote to Tina a few years ago, sending a pic I asked that she sign. A week or two later, I got my prepaid envelope in my mailbox. Not only did she not sign the pic, but she included a preprinted card, on which she hand wrote “You forgot one thing”. On the other side of the card was printed info explaining that. $10 fee is required. (How could I have forgotten something I knew nothing about?) Oh well… I framed that handwritten note with the pic I sent. Still… I found it kind of off putting, how she handled it.
@@ricknineg There was a little bit more to the story, but I was pressed for time. Will try and send you a photo of the pic and the card, when I can, via messenger. As we have communicated that way, in the past. :-)
Mr. Butcher, Maybe someday you will appreciate the favor she did you. You didn't get the small favor you requested, but IMO you got much more. Instead of just an autographed pic (which many thousands of fans acquired, and is it really her signature?), you received a PERSONAL note that reveals something about her character. If she were really a terrible person, she would have ignored you, and she certainly would not have returned the photo.
I really enjoy your videos. I remember this movie very much so and enjoyed seeing the rescue. It was done on such a way that the viewer felt like the people welcoming them home. The ending surprised me but I think it did many people. Hi Rick. Keep making the great videos.
As a kid, my brother and I were obsessed with two TV shows-Hogan's Heroes and Gilligan's Island. With that said, we waited with baited breath for the rescue episode to happen. Truth be told, it was a disappointment. As another poster said, sounds like Tina negotiated herself out of the show. And since it was 1978, there was no internet, no means to crowd fund, which not only would have funded a better episode, but also got Tina her money. Better luck next time Tina. Oops, there was no next time. You snooze, you lose.
That was a great comparison between Hogan's & Gilligan's. Tina wanted more Fame from the show than she deserved. & We all know the story of Bob Crane. Really puzzled me as to.why Tina never tried to make more of herself. She would have fit perfectly into Dynasty or Dallas in the 80's. Hell, Denver Pyle (Uncle Jessie) was in Dallas for a while. Why didn't she???
@@marcstevens8576 Actually, there was an answer to that in "The Rescue" episode. Hollywood offered "Ginger" movie roles that required nudity and Ginger said no. This was said in the TV episode, so, I imagine it related to real life. With that said.... If you look, there was a movie made (Only For the Young) just a year before Gilligan's Island started. Bob and Tina were in it. Bob played a stoned hippie (relating to his days as Maynard T. Krebs). Anyway, there is a scene where Bob's character is stoned out of his gourd and Tina was shaking it, BIG time as she was pulling off clothing. She got nude, but you only saw her from behind. So, post Gilligan's Island, Tina was probably offered roles where she had to strip and she said no. Gotta pay your dues if you wanna bring home the $$$. You might say this is dehumanizing, but post military, I landed my first job by, halfway through the interview, going outside and pulling weeds in 100 degree weather. The interviewer called my mom as I was driving home, telling her that he admired my work ethic (the job I interviewed for was gourmet chef trainee-I got the job).
@@jeffreysnow2640 Thanks. There was a final season that she escaped the island & was replaced by two other women, which never aired. Do you anything about that? I'd like to.
From a Hollywood perspective, $100,000 ($600,000 in today's money) actually doesn't sound like a lot of money, but it would have broke the budget for the movie and it really wasn't fair to the other cast members. Tina should have scaled back her demands.
I thought it was strange that it wasn't the Ginger we all remember but can understand why they hired someone else. The thing that bothered me the most tho was that all the other actors were obviously older yet they hired a young woman to play Ginger. They could have at least hired someone in their forties.Seeing this young chick among the middle aged and older castaways seemed really weird.
Remember also that Tina Louise did not do the voice for the Gilligan's Island cartoon and the Gilligan's Planet cartoon when all of the other cast members did their own character voices.. in fact they made the character of ginger with white hair instead of red to make sure there was no lawsuit..
Tina said in an interview that the major reason for refusing the movie was that she was concerned that casting agents would see her playing Ginger again and would not consider her for serious dramatic roles in the future.
@@SCGMLB To be fair, she did a few things like The Stepford Wives, a Kojak episode and Friendships, Secrets and Lies (TV movie). Not exactly the stuff that Hepburn (either one) or Streep got but dramatic enough work.
Great video. I saw the movie years ago and didn't know any of this which I find interesting it just goes to show that any actor can be replaced. Keep up the great work
Tina Louise not being in the reunion movies was surely noticed. Baldwin made her Ginger character seem fake. Almost to the point of over acting. Tina was the only one that could play that role.
I am old enough to remember the "Gilligan" 1978 remake - to be honest, I thought it was a dud. In my view, it was somewhat better than the "Patty Duke Show" remake (from twenty-plus years back) or the equally dreadful, "Mary and Rhoda" reunion from around the same time. The point being - leave the old shows alone and let them bask in their own good light!
When she was origionally approached to do the show, Tina Louise was under the misapprehension that she would me the main star of the show, and when she found out that that was not the case, there were some sour grapes from the start. She ran hot and cold on Gilligan's Island ever since. Like Max Bear Jr., (Jethro Bodine) she grew to dislike the part that made her a household name, because it typecast her. I believe she has finally come to terms with the role of Ginger now, and is embracing it for what it is.
Tina Louise made a guest appearance on CHiPs in the early 1980's. Worked with the late Adam West in the 1984 movie "Hell Riders". A guest appearance on Married with Children in the early 1990's. Tina and Sherwood Schwartz had their disagreements and differences. However, In the mid 1990's. Bob, Russell, Dawn, Tina and Sherwood appeared together as special guests on Roseanne. Have a nice day/night.
Back then, one needed to do a lot more than just play a character they were known for if the opportunity came to reprise the role, so it’s understandable that she wanted to distance herself from anything new related to Gilligan’s Island. She wanted to do more films and other things that would stretch her career. Sometimes it takes people awhile to embrace what they’re known for and others embrace it right away. Thank you for the video Rick, keep up the great work!
I don’t know if it is true, but I remember hearing somewhere that she was holding out for residuals for the whole cast for the original series reruns, and Sherwood Schwartz spun it as simple greed.
I haven't seen the movie but I always feel like shows and movies lack just a little bit when the entire cast isn't part of the project. I also can't fault Tina in any way for asking to be paid what she wanted. It's just business, right? Now that I know about the movie, I'll look it up because I always loved G.I. and am interested in hearing the rest of that story.
I read somewhere that when she was being interviewed for the part of Ginger, the "movie star", that she thought she was to be the star of the series even though the name of it was to be "Gilligan's Isle" and not "Ginger's Isle". She wanted to be the star and not the bit player in an ensemble which caused tensions during the series run.
Of all the characters that could be replaced, Ginger was the one most easily replaceable because she had no endearing qualities. A hot body, yeah, but she was never loveable and often unlikeable. Even the characters Thurston and Lovey Howell were likeable for their comedic qualities and also sometimes showed they really did care about their fellow castaways more than money. Like Hollywood itself, the character Ginger was shallow, narcissistic, and manipulative. This is not to say that such a character wasn't essential for the storyline, but it does mean that viewers never formed a deep personal attachment to the character Ginger (as played by Tina Louise) as they did in the case of other characters, especially Maryann (as played by Dawn Wells). That said, as a Gilligan Island's fan, it really would have been nice to have all the original cast in the follow-up movies. Everyone else could make it but not good ol' Tina Louise.
Tina Louise thought it would be fun for Nostalgia's sake and she also had a daughter to support but the price must be right for being typecast as Ginger Grant. Sherwood had even said he admired her for her stand but still wouldn't give it to her.This movie also didn't even get back to both the Fake Ginger and The Fake Mr. Howell who went back to the mainland to replace them while the Fake Gilligan who's a Russian Spy would if he could catch up with the motorboat that took off when Gilligan revved it up would go back to Russia for it to take off and get the Fake Gilligan off of his back and that worked out very well.The Spy went into the water to chase the boat while swimming after it and naturally the episode ends then and there.
If Tina hadn't avoided Gilligan's Island reboots I doubt she would have had the best "post"-GS career. Jim Backus had the best overall career (He was in a lot of early movies and the voice of Mr. Magoo!) Give her credit for walking away from the easy payday.
I watched Gilligan's Island growing up well the repeats. But if you're going to be that greedy meaning Tina louise, that's a shame it actually made her a star and it's a shame that it cast-typed her but for her to be that greedy and not want to do anything because those repeats made her extremely famous. But I guess she's just that type of person. Gilligan's Island is a classic and always will be.
She is the last original cast member….one of 7 that’s alive. The pilot had two other girls who were replaced by Tina And Dawn but they we never part of the series
Back then, in the fairly early days of TV, there was sort of a caste system. Most actors wanted to do movies, maybe radio, but not TV. Tina Louise had already appeared on TV dramas like Burke's Law, and several other drama shows. She may have been uncomfortable with slapstick comedy, as Gilligan's Island was. After Gilligan, Tina Louise did some movies like The Happy Ending (1969). She has also written some childrens' books, and done other good projects. As for why she didn't return for Gilligan's Island reboots, it's her business. I hope she is doing well.
When Bob Denver wrote his auto-bio, he claimed that on their lunch breaks Tina would entertain men in her trailer (and it would be rocking). She angrily denied it.
Before they starred in Gilligan's island, Bob Denver and Tina Louise appeared in a Beach party movie called, for those who think young. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
Well, Tina got NOTHING instead of somthing. I think she should have kept the negotiations going, instead of demanding. A middle ground would have been reached. As sad as it was, Tina was forever linked with this character, and she should have accepted, and embraced this. Similar to Patrick Stewart and Shatner and Avery Brooks and Wil Wheaton. What did she do after Gilligans? Maybe something? i havent researched this, but I dont recall anything memorable.
Interesting! I was thinking about Roseanne because the actress who played Becky left for a few years and was replaced, but came back and is in The Connors now
She ended up as Julie Grey...JR's secretary on Dallas, she got thrown of the roof of the building....later on in the 80's (90's?) She had a guest spot on Married With Children
The was a Gilligan's Island marathon on MeTV this past Sunday afternoon. Caught The Mosquitoes (Bingo, Bango, Bongo & Irving), but no giant spider in the cave..... Either I missed it or they didn't show that one. 🚬😎
Tina Louise would be NOTHING without her role as Ginger on "Gilligan's Island", and totally unknown. She should be loyal and grateful to the show for making her a star, but she made it impossible to hire her for the role in the remakes. Shame on her.
I can't remember if I saw the movie 🎬 or not. I can readily believe Schwartz' version because I had heard that Tina Louise believed she was the main star 🌟 of the TV 📺 show even though it was called Gilligan's Island 🏝. So yes, I believe Schwartz made a good call 📞 in hiring another actress.
I would enjoy seeing a review of the reunion. I probably watched it in the seventies, but I was in college then, so maybe not. I never did like Ginger, hers was such a cartoon-ish character. Like most guys, though, I thought Mary Ann was hot and I even liked Mrs. Howell more than Ginger.
Tina skipped the next two Gillian TV movies as well. She frequently complained that the series ruined her once-promising movie career. She really was "the movie star".
Many people, especially the actors, forget that the cost in making a professional film is very costly and that many other people besides the actors must get paid and their salaries come out of the film budget, too. Even in Hollywood's heyday of the 30s-50s, studios watched their pennies like a Scrooge (even though they had many, many pennies! LOL). Directors, producers, writers, cinematographers, camera operators, grips, set designers, electricians and lighting, and carpenters and more....must get paid, too. I grew up in Hollywood in the 1950s and 60s and I remember some salary disputes/discussions that went on before production could commence. But, for the most part, they went smooth. Beginning in the 70s, though, it began to pick up steam along with actors and actresses' egos.
I never liked Tina Louise. I always felt that she thought too much of herself, her looks, her talent. Of course Ginger was never my type of person either lol. I was a Maryanne fan all the way.
I've seen the movie recently and the recast was ok (I'm a Mary Ann fan myself anyway). It sounds like Tina negotiated herself out of a contract. I can't think of ANYTHING she has done since GI, so I'm not sure that worked out so well for her.
Agree. Her career was not that spectacular after GI though in her head it was because her type casting. Instead of being grateful she even had a hit show
"The Stepford Wives" was a good movie role for her, as well as the TV movies "Friendships, Secrets and Lies" and "Nightmare in Badham County", where she played a brutal prison guard.
@@ChrisHansonCanada Yes. Those were in the 1970s. But they did not really propel her status as GI did. Maybe she had a reputation of difficult to work with?
Yes, Tina Louise and her Ginger replacement, Judith Baldwin appeared in the 1975 version of the stepford wives. I believe that they appeared in a scene together. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
Henry here. I thought it was as simple as not wanting to be affiliated with the show like how Susan Dey wanted no affiliation with The Partridge Family when that ended.
@@lazyhomebody1356 in the biopic of Gilligan's Island Tina didn't want any affiliation with the show like it didn't have anything to do with money or not having a sense of humor
I knew that there had been some problems about getting Tina Louise back, but didn't know all the details until now. As you know, there were 2 more movies. Sadly, for the 3rd one Jim Backus was to sick to appear, except a cameo & they had to come up with a son to take his place. That puzzled me as in the original series it always sounded like they were childless.
I’ve seen the movie a couple years ago,they skipped on the quality of film or video. It was faded,the sound was difficult to hear and the colors bland. The writing I don’t remember it being very spectacular either….Some actors think too highly of themselves.
Tina Louise thought she was a bigger star than she was. After Gilligan's Island she was doing guest spots on Barnaby Jones and other TV shows of the time. Her ego got in the way of her senses like a lot of actors have. She should have been happy that she was asked back and taken the check.
I'm not sure the tv movies are "canon" Gilligan's Island. With that said, she was in every original episode, so she never left the series: she just refused to participate in 3 mediocre tv movies.
@@ricknineg I suppose Nick. They just are missing something...maybe Tina Louise? She just rounded out the ensemble perfectly. I guess it's like the Brady reunion movies either missing Jan or Cindy (depending on which movie you see). It feels uncomfortably artificial.
I think he made the right decision and she was a good looking Ginger and Greed Cost her a lot more because of the loss of being with the rest of the original cast again I'm sure she probably regrets her decision.
It was a mistake to replace her. As you know, Rick, they were underpaid for the series and received no residual checks during syndication. That's why Tina was kind of rebelling. She thought it was unfair to all of them. And she had every right. Schwartz should have come up with the money. He had plenty of it. In my opinion he, screwed up and ruined the reunion movies by being too cheap. He was just as cheap as he was talented. At least in this case. I've never heard anything about his other shows. But this mistake was all on him. My opinion.😁
I saw Russell Johnson on a Foundations interview and he was saying that Tina had her "problems" (his words) even during the filming of the originals. Said she was a real pro during the shoots, but could be a bit "difficult" when not shooting. BTW, he's a pretty interesting guy. Bomber navigator in the Pacific during WW2, and was shot down and survived. Played a lot of "heavy bad guys" in a lot of Westerns during the 1950's early 60's.
He also played in 50s schlock movies, too.
Russell Johnson also said that he was typecast but he took it in stride. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
Nowadays, most actors embrace their breakout role and accept the fact that they will be associated with that character forever. Back in the early days of television, many felt, as did Tina (and, hello Eve Plumb) that it essentially ruined their career through typecasting. Tina was quite vocal about this, and in an earlier video you even revealed that she would have been written out in Season 4 due to her wish to leave the production. So, I’m sure that when the movie offer came around, she wasn’t really interested, but threw out that figure knowing there was an overwhelming chance it wouldn’t be accepted, but if it was, she could cry all the way to the bank. I think I’m more recent years, she’s come to embrace the Gilligan fame (much as Eve Plumb has reconciled herself with “Jan”).
I don't think nor ever got that Eve Plumb hated her role or feared typecasting. She always came back for reunions and the spin off. The only thing she said no thank you to was the variety hour because her father and other influential people in her life said it would hurt her to do it when she had a movie lined up that would interfere. Turns out they were right because while outside of Brady's she might not have been in front of the camera much but she did well for herself behind it. I'd argue shes also probably the only Brady kid that didnt have some form of child celebrity curse. Now if you mean Maureen McCormick then you'd be right since she hated being typecast along with living up to everyone thinking she WAS Marcia, and was no small part of her escapism with drug use. (which her autobiography says that was something she still struggles with).
@@jershumuyo2734 Yes the Brady Bunch variety Hour was awful. She was wise to pass on that. Many believe that Eve was the best actor of the six kids.
Ginger was crazy, everybody ages it not 1960s ginger, ginger look unreal prettiness on gillian island but wouldve lost her beauty,, she had the dallas tv role,, it probaby was it
It didn't sink in that she's the last surviving member of the cast until you said it. We've lost so many talented actors from these classic shows. Will future generations have this same loving nostalgia for newer shows like we do for these shows?
We miss them all so much
Doubtful - newer generations have lost the sense of history.
No, because we only had a few shows!
Well those classic shows were form 50 or more years ago. It is a wonder anyone who was an adult in the 1960's is still alive today. Just by average life expectancy most would be dead now.
@@davescrimshaw7781 your boomer is showing. I'm a younger generation and love the older sitcoms and constantly call out modern sitcoms for being uninspired and boring with a few exceptions that I think will be classics (Schitts Creek, Arrested Development just to name a few).
According to Sherwood Schwartz, Tina Louise was a pain through the entire filming of the series. She kept wanting more scenes, more close ups and more lines. He had to remind her that the show was called "Gilligan's Island" not "Ginger's Island"! She wanted nothing to do with the show afterward. I can't imagine the patience Sherwood had to show toward Tina when she kept changing her mind on whether to be in the reunion movie or not. Quite frankly, I thought the movie was just fine without her. She thought she was too good for the show but she doesn't seem to realize that playing Ginger is the only thing anyone recognizes her for. She should have appreciated what side her bread was buttered on.
It's the same as when an author has a hit book series but wants to write "serious literature" instead
Trouble or not Ginger, there’s only one Ginger
She was the movie star
And her unique personality was special
I’m with everyone else that Mary Ann is by far my favorite
But Ginger was special herself and an excellent contrast to Mary Ann
Gilligan was always the star and Skipper were amazing together
Skipper breaking the 4th wall like Laurel and Hardy
Hardy like glancing at the audience
The Howells were priceless
Tina Louise was a real-life diva. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
@@stephenpsalm274 I mean no hate to Tina or Ginger. Ginger was supposed to be self-centered and vain. Tina played her perfectly :)
@@lazyhomebody1356 Okay, I removed that part of it. Ginger played herself I think, in a way, she was unhappy with the role but she was a professional the other cast members said. I think they also said, "she is the movie star" I just like her part, meaning she couldn' t be replaced, she was unique. It's good to have contrast in art and she was a perfect contrast to Mary Ann
I always liked Tina Louise, even in dramatic roles. But “Gilligan’s Island” was an ensemble show, not a star vehicle. After all, it wasn’t named “Ginger.” I think Sherwood did the right thing in recasting the role. To have capitulated to Tina’s demands would have been a slap in the face to the other cast members who were just as important to the show as was she. Great video, Rick!
I wouldn't have capitulated to her demands either, but on the other hand, the tv movies did suffer a bit due to her absence. Neither Judith nor Constance quite had the same "it" factor that Louise had.
Tina Louise refused to appear in the reunion movies because Sherwood Schwartz made 90 million in syndication and the cast got nothing. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
In 1978, I was 9 years old, and I fully remember when this was on. I couldn't wait to see it. At 9, you could show me anything, and I was in awe. I remember my takeaway was sheer disappointment.
This was a second reminder to Tina that the show is called Gilligan's Island and not the Tina Louise show. But, I still loved her character on the show.
I would be interested in hearing Tina's side of this story
She rarely if ever gives interviews. Quite unfortunate
Tina Louise was upset that Sherwood Schwartz made millions in profits from gilligan's island. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
Hey Rick, I remember very well Rescue From Gilligan's Island!!! I was excited to see it in 1978 & I think that Sherwood Schwartz did the right thing. Of course it would have been nice to see Tina as Ginger but the movie was great anyway!!! Thanks for sharing another fun video!!! 👍👍🏖️
Tina Louise did appear for at least one Gilligan's Island reunion which was on Roseanne back in 1995 along with Russell Johnson, Dawn Wells and Bob Denver. 🤗📺🏝🥥
I saw that clip on Tik Tok in a dream sequence. Tina playing Rosanne Connor’s sister.
Considering how much money Sherwood Schwartz made, he screwed all of the cast members.
Sherwood Schwartz also made millions off the Brady bunch and didn't give the cast anything, too. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
It's sad that she didn't reprise her role as Ginger
But she did show up for the 1987 reunion on a talk show. Forgot talk show but it's here on UA-cam. She even did the Ginger voice.
Hollywood. Nuff said.
Of all of the original seven, IMO, Tina was the most easily replaced.
I prefer t look at the "Rescue" movie like one of the show's dream sequences, in that it didn't have the "real" Ginger in it therefore it never really happened. Tina Louise created and perfected that role and no one could replace her. Regardless of whether she got along with the other cast members or not, she still had a lot of chemistry with all of the actors and it's difficult to bring someone else in and recreate that chemistry.
Tina Louise wanted nothing to do with Gilligan's Island after it was canceled, but when the castaways reassembled for a TV interview back in the 80s, she was there with them. Go figure.
She really needed the money.
Actually if you do some digging she was pretty amicable and friends with most the cast even if they weren't besties (she probably was closest with Dawn). She never wanted to be typecast and her narcissism caused a lot of conflict, especially when you consider she definitely was a star on the rise before Gilligan when you look at her credits. She felt rightly so she and the cast deserved more money because Sherwood screwed all the cast on being underpaid and syndication. Gilligan by the 80's was raking in tons of money on syndication and they never got a dime, she finally wanting to be compensated is pretty fair.
But she used the interview to advertise her latest film, and I remember Alan Hale happy and applauding loudly after the trailer, as always a very warm guy.
That's not to say she didn't get on quite well (if not besties as mentioned) with the rest of the cast, particularly with Dawn Wells. I remember an interview where Louise says Dawn and her Mom had Louise and her new Husband over for Christmas dinner and taught her how to cook a soufflé.
@@SPOCKtheAVENGER Alan Hale also had a funny look on his face after watching Tina's movie. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
@@bobbylee2853 not only money 💸 but attention, too, I bet.
Sort of ironic she was the first to leave the show but the last to leave this earth.
Thankfully, she is still with us as when this comment was posted
The $1.3 million budget is negotiable. Everything is negotiable.
At my last job, my department was allocated $85,000 for increases, which came out to approximately a 2% increase for the staff.
At my level, I could not force the executives to allocate more funding for my department. But that does not mean that the money did not exist.
The CEO has a personal net worth of $50 billion.
So to say that there was no funding available for an employee to get a much higher increase, is absurd.
My former employer spent a ½ million on computer hardware that sat in our warehouse for 5 years. Why? because someone else's budget allowed them to spend the money, and they did, so that they would not have their budget cut for the next year.
So my team was offered $85,000, while in our warehouse, $500,000 worth of hardware was sitting on shelves, going down in value.
My point is that if Sherwood Schwartz wanted to budget another $50,000 for the show, he could have. If he did not have the final say, then someone else at the studio could have done so. NBC would not miss another $50,000.
Using "It's the budget", is just a negotiating excuse. The employees hear that as "There's no more money in the vault", when the person that owns the vault can easily add more to the vault.
So either Schwartz did not have the authority to increase the budget, did not have the spine to reach out to the person that could increase the budget, or simply felt that Tina Louise was not worth it.
I remember watching an interview with Bob Denver. He mentioned Tina telling him that Gilligan's Island was destroying her career. She was typecast and was no longer being offered the same types of meaty dramatic projects as before Gilligan. He went on to say that "she was correct, but she accepted the role." No actor in the early days of television could have predicted how television would shape their future careers. Another incident Mr. Denver mentioned was Tina's name in the opening credits. From my understanding, Tina always had issues with the tone of Gilligan's Island's scripts. It was her belief that she was signing on to higher quality production.
So to get the full story, a person will have to research all the opinions the cast and crew had on Tina's relationship with the show during the original run and the TV movies, as well as Tina's opinion on her Gilligan's experience.
Personally, I was not happy with Mr. Schwartz's replacement. Yes, Judith Baldwin fulfilled the physical characteristics, but she portrayed Ginger as an airhead. Ginger Grant was never an airhead. When the time was appropriate to achieve her goals, Ginger took on the ever-so-slight characteristics of an airhead.
Casandra Peterson (Elvira) mentioned she was in the running to replace Tina. Mr. Schwartz told her that "she was his Ginger." Then one of the other producers saw her performing with the Groundlings in a gynecologist sketch. The producer was outraged. He told her that his production had no place for "her kind of element." I discovered this tidbit on IMDB. It sounds like Casandra would have been the best replacement, but would the world have lost out on Elvira?
Tina Louise and her replacement, Judith Baldwin were in the movie, the stepford wives in 1975. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
Ginger wasn't my favorite in GI, and at the age of eight to ten, I did not understand and did not know what a production company did or was... I think TL's error was not playing better with the cards she was dealt. Yes, she wanted more and better dramatic roles but in conversations and interviews should have placed the show in its best light - a fun and light comedy carrying nice morals. And left it at that. I think she would have benefited more from an approach of the sort, "Yes, it is fun and a lot of hours and work, but I'm shopping several serious roles with the only problem being the time issue, so, the roles must be carefully selected, seriouss, relevant and allow me to artistically represent my dramatic training and talent and express my love of and becoming ever better at drama - the challenge is the little time available around what a loved and popular show Gilligan's Island is and I must accept only the rare and wonderful."
Instead, her irritation, lack of respect for, and dismissal of the property and the other actors, etc., really does not speak well of her, her i.q., judgment, and more importantly, I do not think her acting life was best served by her blowing out as obviously superior to the whole shooting match.
Please do make a video on the movie, i saw it a long time ago and i liked it very much, thank you Rick!!!
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Being a lifetime fan of the show and still to this day watch it daily, I was very disappointed when Tina Louise, didn’t appear on the rest of the films made after.
I think everyone would always relate her to Gilligan’s Island because of it being such a hit but it really hasn’t stopped many others actors and actresses from moving up and on.
I really think she had a thorn in her side over the Mary Ann versus Ginger that she could never seem to remove, hate to say that.
If she would have just went ahead and agreed to do the movies I think it would have helped her out more for her future career.
I think in my opinion by her not agreeing to make the films came across to many potential future producers as her being hard to deal with, spoiled, snobby, I’m too good to associate with common actors, worth more than I think I am.
There could never be another Ginger, she was perfect for the character and people for ages will continue watching that show, it’s that good!
I remember the Rescue movie and thinking hey, that’s not Ginger, so it kind of ruined the movie for me. But she’s the last survivor, so it looks like Tina Louise gets the last laugh!
It's ginger's island now. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
always wondered why she didn't play ginger in rescue from giligans island Tina Louise was hard to replace ginger beautiful her sexy charm and those eyes and smile so now I'm realizing why she didn't come back to play ginger now interesting facts and info thanks for sharing Rick once again great video buddy
BTW… I think Kurt Russell should also be mentioned as a “last surviving cast member”. (Though he only did one episode.) I wrote to Tina a few years ago, sending a pic I asked that she sign. A week or two later, I got my prepaid envelope in my mailbox. Not only did she not sign the pic, but she included a preprinted card, on which she hand wrote “You forgot one thing”. On the other side of the card was printed info explaining that. $10 fee is required. (How could I have forgotten something I knew nothing about?) Oh well… I framed that handwritten note with the pic I sent. Still… I found it kind of off putting, how she handled it.
No way?!
I love that story! She literally went to more trouble than it would have been to scrawl an autograph
@@ricknineg There was a little bit more to the story, but I was pressed for time. Will try and send you a photo of the pic and the card, when I can, via messenger. As we have communicated that way, in the past. :-)
OMG! She really is Ginger!
Mr. Butcher, Maybe someday you will appreciate the favor she did you. You didn't get the small favor you requested, but IMO you got much more.
Instead of just an autographed pic (which many thousands of fans acquired, and is it really her signature?), you received a PERSONAL note that reveals something about her character.
If she were really a terrible person, she would have ignored you, and she certainly would not have returned the photo.
But it wasn't called GINGER'S ISLAND!
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I really enjoy your videos. I remember this movie very much so and enjoyed seeing the rescue. It was done on such a way that the viewer felt like the people welcoming them home. The ending surprised me but I think it did many people.
Hi Rick. Keep making the great videos.
Much appreciated! Well wishes to you and NY
As a kid, my brother and I were obsessed with two TV shows-Hogan's Heroes and Gilligan's Island. With that said, we waited with baited breath for the rescue episode to happen. Truth be told, it was a disappointment. As another poster said, sounds like Tina negotiated herself out of the show. And since it was 1978, there was no internet, no means to crowd fund, which not only would have funded a better episode, but also got Tina her money. Better luck next time Tina. Oops, there was no next time. You snooze, you lose.
That was a great comparison between Hogan's & Gilligan's. Tina wanted more Fame from the show than she deserved. & We all know the story of Bob Crane. Really puzzled me as to.why Tina never tried to make more of herself. She would have fit perfectly into Dynasty or Dallas in the 80's. Hell, Denver Pyle (Uncle Jessie) was in Dallas for a while. Why didn't she???
@@marcstevens8576 Actually, there was an answer to that in "The Rescue" episode. Hollywood offered "Ginger" movie roles that required nudity and Ginger said no. This was said in the TV episode, so, I imagine it related to real life. With that said....
If you look, there was a movie made (Only For the Young) just a year before Gilligan's Island started. Bob and Tina were in it. Bob played a stoned hippie (relating to his days as Maynard T. Krebs). Anyway, there is a scene where Bob's character is stoned out of his gourd and Tina was shaking it, BIG time as she was pulling off clothing. She got nude, but you only saw her from behind.
So, post Gilligan's Island, Tina was probably offered roles where she had to strip and she said no. Gotta pay your dues if you wanna bring home the $$$.
You might say this is dehumanizing, but post military, I landed my first job by, halfway through the interview, going outside and pulling weeds in 100 degree weather. The interviewer called my mom as I was driving home, telling her that he admired my work ethic (the job I interviewed for was gourmet chef trainee-I got the job).
@@marcstevens8576 Tina Louise was in Dallas for the first season and even maybe part of 2nd too
@@jeffreysnow2640 Thanks. There was a final season that she escaped the island & was replaced by two other women, which never aired. Do you anything about that? I'd like to.
@@marcstevens8576 agree - however, Tina did appear in about 5 episodes in the 1st season of Dallas.
Wonder why she thought she was worth more than the other cast members?🤔 Greed is not pretty.
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From a Hollywood perspective, $100,000 ($600,000 in today's money) actually doesn't sound like a lot of money, but it would have broke the budget for the movie and it really wasn't fair to the other cast members. Tina should have scaled back her demands.
And may I add, not even Bob Denver (Gilligan) was making anywhere near that amount for the film
I wonder how much money were the other cast members offered? Rick I just found your channel and your videos are great. Keep up the good work. 🖖
Hi Rick
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The recast was smart.
I thought it was strange that it wasn't the Ginger we all remember but can understand why they hired someone else. The thing that bothered me the most tho was that all the other actors were obviously older yet they hired a young woman to play Ginger. They could have at least hired someone in their forties.Seeing this young chick among the middle aged and older castaways seemed really weird.
I love your channel Rick. Absolutely great stuff!
Remember also that Tina Louise did not do the voice for the Gilligan's Island cartoon and the Gilligan's Planet cartoon when all of the other cast members did their own character voices.. in fact they made the character of ginger with white hair instead of red to make sure there was no lawsuit..
Of all the reunion movies in the '70's and '80's,the Gilligan's Island movies were the best.
Tina said in an interview that the major reason for refusing the movie was that she was concerned that casting agents would see her playing Ginger again and would not consider her for serious dramatic roles in the future.
Versus all those serious dramatic roles that she ended up getting?
@@SCGMLB To be fair, she did a few things like The Stepford Wives, a Kojak episode and Friendships, Secrets and Lies (TV movie). Not exactly the stuff that Hepburn (either one) or Streep got but dramatic enough work.
True. But I doubt that those roles would have been withheld if she had returned for the reunion movie.
Good information . One of my favorite shows . Be well
Great video. I saw the movie years ago and didn't know any of this which I find interesting it just goes to show that any actor can be replaced. Keep up the great work
Tina Louise not being in the reunion movies was surely noticed. Baldwin made her Ginger character seem fake. Almost to the point of over acting. Tina was the only one that could play that role.
Thanks Rick 🙂
I am old enough to remember the "Gilligan" 1978 remake - to be honest, I thought it was a dud. In my view, it was somewhat better than the "Patty Duke Show" remake (from twenty-plus years back) or the equally dreadful, "Mary and Rhoda" reunion from around the same time. The point being - leave the old shows alone and let them bask in their own good light!
It wasn't a "remake". It was simply a continuation of the story.
When she was origionally approached to do the show, Tina Louise was under the misapprehension that she would me the main star of the show, and when she found out that that was not the case, there were some sour grapes from the start. She ran hot and cold on Gilligan's Island ever since. Like Max Bear Jr., (Jethro Bodine) she grew to dislike the part that made her a household name, because it typecast her. I believe she has finally come to terms with the role of Ginger now, and is embracing it for what it is.
Tina Louise made a guest appearance on CHiPs in the early 1980's. Worked with the late Adam West in the 1984 movie "Hell Riders". A guest appearance on Married with Children in the early 1990's.
Tina and Sherwood Schwartz had their disagreements and differences. However, In the mid 1990's. Bob, Russell, Dawn, Tina and Sherwood appeared together as special guests on Roseanne.
Have a nice day/night.
Tina Louise also appeared on the TV Land awards with her surviving cast members. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
People dream about being famous then become full of themselves
Back then, one needed to do a lot more than just play a character they were known for if the opportunity came to reprise the role, so it’s understandable that she wanted to distance herself from anything new related to Gilligan’s Island. She wanted to do more films and other things that would stretch her career. Sometimes it takes people awhile to embrace what they’re known for and others embrace it right away. Thank you for the video Rick, keep up the great work!
Well said
She didn't leave the show (it was already gone), she just didn't rejoin.
She left “Gilligan’s Island.” Even though the movie was not a Tv show, it was canon and therefore in the same universe
I don’t know if it is true, but I remember hearing somewhere that she was holding out for residuals for the whole cast for the original series reruns, and Sherwood Schwartz spun it as simple greed.
Maybe she saw the Brady bunch variety show? And thought I might follow eve plumbs example ( and quite rightly so )
I haven't seen the movie but I always feel like shows and movies lack just a little bit when the entire cast isn't part of the project. I also can't fault Tina in any way for asking to be paid what she wanted. It's just business, right? Now that I know about the movie, I'll look it up because I always loved G.I. and am interested in hearing the rest of that story.
I always thought that the show was canceled before she quit. She wasn't on rescue.
Wonder what all the actors actually were paid.
I read somewhere that when she was being interviewed for the part of Ginger, the "movie star", that she thought she was to be the star of the series even though the name of it was to be "Gilligan's Isle" and not "Ginger's Isle". She wanted to be the star and not the bit player in an ensemble which caused tensions during the series run.
Of all the characters that could be replaced, Ginger was the one most easily replaceable because she had no endearing qualities. A hot body, yeah, but she was never loveable and often unlikeable.
Even the characters Thurston and Lovey Howell were likeable for their comedic qualities and also sometimes showed they really did care about their fellow castaways more than money. Like Hollywood itself, the character Ginger was shallow, narcissistic, and manipulative. This is not to say that such a character wasn't essential for the storyline, but it does mean that viewers never formed a deep personal attachment to the character Ginger (as played by Tina Louise) as they did in the case of other characters, especially Maryann (as played by Dawn Wells).
That said, as a Gilligan Island's fan, it really would have been nice to have all the original cast in the follow-up movies. Everyone else could make it but not good ol' Tina Louise.
Tina Louise thought it would be fun for Nostalgia's sake and she also had a daughter to support but the price must be right for being typecast as Ginger Grant. Sherwood had even said he admired her for her stand but still wouldn't give it to her.This movie also didn't even get back to both the Fake Ginger and The Fake Mr. Howell who went back to the mainland to replace them while the Fake Gilligan who's a Russian Spy would if he could catch up with the motorboat that took off when Gilligan revved it up would go back to Russia for it to take off and get the Fake Gilligan off of his back and that worked out very well.The Spy went into the water to chase the boat while swimming after it and naturally the episode ends then and there.
Her demand was just too much she wasn't when the main character even I'm glad she wasn't on it
If Tina hadn't avoided Gilligan's Island reboots I doubt she would have had the best "post"-GS career. Jim Backus had the best overall career (He was in a lot of early movies and the voice of Mr. Magoo!) Give her credit for walking away from the easy payday.
I watched Gilligan's Island growing up well the repeats. But if you're going to be that greedy meaning Tina louise, that's a shame it actually made her a star and it's a shame that it cast-typed her but for her to be that greedy and not want to do anything because those repeats made her extremely famous. But I guess she's just that type of person. Gilligan's Island is a classic and always will be.
My gosh, is the the last one? How about the production crew? Do you have any information?
She is the last original cast member….one of 7 that’s alive. The pilot had two other girls who were replaced by Tina And Dawn but they we never part of the series
@@ricknineg And the Professor was played by a different actor.
You’re right! His name was John Gabriel
Back then, in the fairly early days of TV, there was sort of a caste system. Most actors wanted to do movies, maybe radio, but not TV. Tina Louise had already appeared on TV dramas like Burke's Law, and several other drama shows. She may have been uncomfortable with slapstick comedy, as Gilligan's Island was. After Gilligan, Tina Louise did some movies like The Happy Ending (1969). She has also written some childrens' books, and done other good projects. As for why she didn't return for Gilligan's Island reboots, it's her business. I hope she is doing well.
I saw a movie where she portrayed Sappho, the ancient Greek poet. It was pretty good.
When Bob Denver wrote his auto-bio, he claimed that on their lunch breaks Tina would entertain men in her trailer (and it would be rocking). She angrily denied it.
He claimed that she was in her trailer with her then boyfriend. Not other random men
I believe it! They shared a wall
Before they starred in Gilligan's island, Bob Denver and Tina Louise appeared in a Beach party movie called, for those who think young. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
Well, Tina got NOTHING instead of somthing. I think she should have kept the negotiations going, instead of demanding. A middle ground would have been reached. As sad as it was, Tina was forever linked with this character, and she should have accepted, and embraced this. Similar to Patrick Stewart and Shatner and Avery Brooks and Wil Wheaton. What did she do after Gilligans? Maybe something? i havent researched this, but I dont recall anything memorable.
I think she did reprise her role as Ginger one last time on ROSEANNE
Interesting! I was thinking about Roseanne because the actress who played Becky left for a few years and was replaced, but came back and is in The Connors now
One question. Was all of this according to Sherwood Schwartz? Lol
She ended up as Julie Grey...JR's secretary on Dallas, she got thrown of the roof of the building....later on in the 80's (90's?) She had a guest spot on Married With Children
Tina Louise appeared with Bob Denver, Dawn Wells and Russell Johnson in a cameo on the TV show, Roseanne. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
The was a Gilligan's Island marathon on MeTV this past Sunday afternoon.
Caught The Mosquitoes (Bingo, Bango, Bongo & Irving), but no giant spider in the cave.....
Either I missed it or they didn't show that one.
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Tina Louise would be NOTHING without her role as Ginger on "Gilligan's Island", and totally unknown. She should be loyal and grateful to the show for making her a star, but she made it impossible to hire her for the role in the remakes. Shame on her.
From what I'd heard, she point-blank refused to reprise Ginger because she felt she had become typecast by the role.
As they say in show biz Nobody's Irreplaceable It was probably a stunt and he called her bluff. Tough lesson
I can't remember if I saw the movie 🎬 or not. I can readily believe Schwartz' version because I had heard that Tina Louise believed she was the main star 🌟 of the TV 📺 show even though it was called Gilligan's Island 🏝. So yes, I believe Schwartz made a good call 📞 in hiring another actress.
She really left How it was only on for 3 seasons 😁
I would enjoy seeing a review of the reunion. I probably watched it in the seventies, but I was in college then, so maybe not. I never did like Ginger, hers was such a cartoon-ish character. Like most guys, though, I thought Mary Ann was hot and I even liked Mrs. Howell more than Ginger.
Tina skipped the next two Gillian TV movies as well. She frequently complained that the series ruined her once-promising movie career. She really was "the movie star".
Many people, especially the actors, forget that the cost in making a professional film is very costly and that many other people besides the actors must get paid and their salaries come out of the film budget, too. Even in Hollywood's heyday of the 30s-50s, studios watched their pennies like a Scrooge (even though they had many, many pennies! LOL). Directors, producers, writers, cinematographers, camera operators, grips, set designers, electricians and lighting, and carpenters and more....must get paid, too. I grew up in Hollywood in the 1950s and 60s and I remember some salary disputes/discussions that went on before production could commence. But, for the most part, they went smooth. Beginning in the 70s, though, it began to pick up steam along with actors and actresses' egos.
There’s no mention of the cartoon version. It was decided to make Ginger a blond, so Ms. Louise wouldn’t sue for using her likeness.
woulda lived to see her in the movie, but all in all, it was her loss.
Bet she didn’t mind collecting the paychecks! Sounds like a narcissist.
Oh wow I didn't realize Dawn Wells passed
Yes she passed Dec 2020
I never liked Tina Louise. I always felt that she thought too much of herself, her looks, her talent. Of course Ginger was never my type of person either lol. I was a Maryanne fan all the way.
I've seen the movie recently and the recast was ok (I'm a Mary Ann fan myself anyway).
It sounds like Tina negotiated herself out of a contract. I can't think of ANYTHING she has done since GI, so I'm not sure that worked out so well for her.
Chris Pratt-She did appear on an episode of Knight Rider.
Agree. Her career was not that spectacular after GI though in her head it was because her type casting. Instead of being grateful she even had a hit show
"The Stepford Wives" was a good movie role for her, as well as the TV movies "Friendships, Secrets and Lies" and "Nightmare in Badham County", where she played a brutal prison guard.
@@ChrisHansonCanada Yes. Those were in the 1970s. But they did not really propel her status as GI did. Maybe she had a reputation of difficult to work with?
@@ChrisHansonCanada I remember her in all those roles, now that you mention them. She was really good.
Wasn't Tina and Judy both in the 'Stepford Wives' 1975?
Yes, Tina Louise and her Ginger replacement, Judith Baldwin appeared in the 1975 version of the stepford wives. I believe that they appeared in a scene together. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
Henry here. I thought it was as simple as not wanting to be affiliated with the show like how Susan Dey wanted no affiliation with The Partridge Family when that ended.
What is it with these beautiful dames with no sense of humor? Eve Plumb, Susan Dey and Tina Louise. Add Justine Bateman to that list too
@@lazyhomebody1356 in the biopic of Gilligan's Island Tina didn't want any affiliation with the show like it didn't have anything to do with money or not having a sense of humor
Well...she was about to start filming Dallas, wasn't she? But then...how did that work out for her?
Tina's character on Dallas was thrown off a building. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
Over the top, demands!.
Tina has said a few times that she wished she never did GI because she was type cast after GI.
If Tina Louise didn't appear in Gilligan's island, she wouldn't be famous. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
Do you happen to know what the other actors were paid? It would be good to know, and also what amount Sherwood Schwartz offered Tina Louise.
Sherwood Schwartz offered Tina Louise $25,000 to reprise the role of Ginger. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
Tina Louise was Ginger. Judy Baldwin just didn't have "it".
Interview Tina PLEASE!
Believe me, I would if I could. She’s always got an open door to come onto my channel
@@ricknineg you are totally worthy of the interview.
She is reportedly 88 now.
She's in good health. Her daughter, Caprice Crane was a producer for MTV. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
I knew that there had been some problems about getting Tina Louise back, but didn't know all the details until now. As you know, there were 2 more movies. Sadly, for the 3rd one Jim Backus was to sick to appear, except a cameo & they had to come up with a son to take his place. That puzzled me as in the original series it always sounded like they were childless.
Tina Louise did the entire series. She just chose not to do any of the reunion TV movies, so she really didn't "leave" the show.
Never said she left the show. She left Gilligan’s Island
It sounds like Tina Louise backed Sherwood into a corner. End of story.
I’ve seen the movie a couple years ago,they skipped on the quality of film or video. It was faded,the sound was difficult to hear and the colors bland. The writing I don’t remember it being very spectacular either….Some actors think too highly of themselves.
The quality of the print was low and the writing was super basic. Super basic. Nothing as fun and funny as the series
I feel bad for the other cast members of Tina being a little greedy - it would have made the movie perfect instead of 99%. But it still worked out ok.
Tina Louise thought she was a bigger star than she was. After Gilligan's Island she was doing guest spots on Barnaby Jones and other TV shows of the time. Her ego got in the way of her senses like a lot of actors have. She should have been happy that she was asked back and taken the check.
Their was 3 movies, wasn't there?
Love the 1978 tv reunion movie.
I'm not sure the tv movies are "canon" Gilligan's Island. With that said, she was in every original episode, so she never left the series: she just refused to participate in 3 mediocre tv movies.
Rescue was considered Canon
@@ricknineg I suppose Nick. They just are missing something...maybe Tina Louise? She just rounded out the ensemble perfectly. I guess it's like the Brady reunion movies either missing Jan or Cindy (depending on which movie you see). It feels uncomfortably artificial.
I think he made the right decision and she was a good looking Ginger and Greed Cost her a lot more because of the loss of being with the rest of the original cast again I'm sure she probably regrets her decision.
It was a mistake to replace her. As you know, Rick, they were underpaid for the series and received no residual checks during syndication. That's why Tina was kind of rebelling. She thought it was unfair to all of them. And she had every right. Schwartz should have come up with the money. He had plenty of it. In my opinion he, screwed up and ruined the reunion movies by being too cheap. He was just as cheap as he was talented. At least in this case. I've never heard anything about his other shows. But this mistake was all on him. My opinion.😁