Hi Peter, I've been enjoying the original Parf Guide System for about a year now and made around 10 tops with it here in Ontario, Canada. I usually seal the tops with Polyurethane before I drill them and I was having some bad tearout on the back that chamfering would not hide. I recently decided to drill the back lightly a couple of mm on every hole before I turned it over and drilled right through. This fixed my tearout problem even though it adds a bit more work to the process, but now I have perfect holes on both sides. I would also like to mention to just watch Peter's videos on how to use this system. There are a few other's out there now where they are not following the instructions properly when drilling the 3 mm holes.
I’m relatively new to the theory of the system, but don’t understand why hole centres are at 96mm and not at 100mm, which would enable cuts to be made at standard lengths.
The holes are not used to measure the lengths of the cuts, they are used to align the cuts, by putting three bench dogs in there, in a triangle, and putting the wood against one side, and the track against the other side of said triangle. The measurements are done separately, and for this purpose, it being 96 or 90 or 100mm or whatever else doesn't matter much for this, as long as the holes are far enough to not taking out so much material that they are weak, and close enough so you can approximately be at the end of the board to provide best alignment possible... Also, multiples of 100 are not a 'standard length'. However, 32mm spacing is, and 3x32 is 96. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/32_mm_cabinetmaking_system
I had some trouble getting the 20mm drill bit to go all the way through. Might be my off brand drill which wasn't powerful enough, or because I didn't get the dust extractor attachment to suck the dust/chips out of the way. But halfway through the board, I had to remove the whole jig, and clean off the drill with my dust extractor. For each hole. It took ages :P Till I figured, I'd just drill each 3mm hole again with a 8mm bit. It honestly doesn't matter how straight the smaller holes are... The 20mm bit is gonna go straight with the jig anyway. But yeah... Removing some extra material before using the 20mm but did the job. Just putting it out there, for any other newbies. And now I have an amazing mft table thanks to this system :D
If a pin is to go through both rules,perhaps to machine a tool part to be say 3 mm odd long to go through both rules firmly, just a thought.i used the drill guide, longer one, but somewhere lost a fraction integrity, causing me to trim board a start again
Hi there, the Parf Guide system is available to purchase here complete with all parts needed to create the workbench top www.axminstertools.com/ujk-technology-parf-guide-system-mkii-104779
Hi Peter, sorry if i ask a stupid question.On this video, u drilled the first row of holes,great, i did that.now forming the triangle, where 8/10 holes match, u put a pin. But there is no hole yet drilled there,as tgey are still to be drilled, in hole 10
Hi there, I am sorry you are having trouble with drilling your holes. Please refer to further videos that show this process, and if you are still having issues, our technical team would be happy to help ua-cam.com/video/Bfxxjn85SRE/v-deo.html www.axminstertools.com/contact
Great Video, just wonder which Parf guide I got delivered as documentation is saying Park MK I but the ruler do have 3 and 6mm holes while the drill support does not have these 6mm snapin support.
Hi, I was wondering if it’s possible to use a 22mm mdf top for a mft workbench? I guess it’s not a problem for the dogs, but is it a problem for the Festool clamps??
It appears that Peter does not carefully align the initial Parf stick parallel with the edge of the MDF top. I understand that all the 3mm holes will be aligned to each other perfectly (using the 3 4 5 rule) but the edge of the MDF will not be aligned with those holes. One solution is to cut the edge down using your track saw after you have created the 96mm spacing of 20mm holes. The other would be to use the Parf stick to align the initial 3mm hole either 32mm from the edge or 16mm. What alignment is the Festool MDF top to the first row of holes? Does this matter?
Good afternoon I would recommend calling us on 0800 371822 to discuss your enquiries further with our technical sales team. Kind regards Jade Customer Service
Peter Received my new system and love it. I do have a question though. The stop collar retaining screw has been changed to a plastic one and it does not hold the bit from dropping through the jig and can't be tighter on the shaft. And a suggestion to put a slight notch on the shaft to retain the set screw from scoring the shaft of the bit. Will continue to enjoy the jig making other top Keep making the great shows
Hi Peter, I've been enjoying the original Parf Guide System for about a year now and made around 10 tops with it here in Ontario, Canada. I usually seal the tops with Polyurethane before I drill them and I was having some bad tearout on the back that chamfering would not hide. I recently decided to drill the back lightly a couple of mm on every hole before I turned it over and drilled right through. This fixed my tearout problem even though it adds a bit more work to the process, but now I have perfect holes on both sides.
I would also like to mention to just watch Peter's videos on how to use this system. There are a few other's out there now where they are not following the instructions properly when drilling the 3 mm holes.
I’m relatively new to the theory of the system, but don’t understand why hole centres are at 96mm and not at 100mm, which would enable cuts to be made at standard lengths.
The holes are not used to measure the lengths of the cuts, they are used to align the cuts, by putting three bench dogs in there, in a triangle, and putting the wood against one side, and the track against the other side of said triangle. The measurements are done separately, and for this purpose, it being 96 or 90 or 100mm or whatever else doesn't matter much for this, as long as the holes are far enough to not taking out so much material that they are weak, and close enough so you can approximately be at the end of the board to provide best alignment possible... Also, multiples of 100 are not a 'standard length'. However, 32mm spacing is, and 3x32 is 96.
See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/32_mm_cabinetmaking_system
I had some trouble getting the 20mm drill bit to go all the way through. Might be my off brand drill which wasn't powerful enough, or because I didn't get the dust extractor attachment to suck the dust/chips out of the way. But halfway through the board, I had to remove the whole jig, and clean off the drill with my dust extractor. For each hole. It took ages :P
Till I figured, I'd just drill each 3mm hole again with a 8mm bit. It honestly doesn't matter how straight the smaller holes are... The 20mm bit is gonna go straight with the jig anyway. But yeah... Removing some extra material before using the 20mm but did the job.
Just putting it out there, for any other newbies. And now I have an amazing mft table thanks to this system :D
just about to get a track saw, think I need that kit too
If a pin is to go through both rules,perhaps to machine a tool part to be say 3 mm odd long to go through both rules firmly, just a thought.i used the drill guide, longer one, but somewhere lost a fraction integrity, causing me to trim board a start again
Bravo, where is the right angle drill guide? Well filmed and presented.
Hi there, the Parf Guide system is available to purchase here complete with all parts needed to create the workbench top www.axminstertools.com/ujk-technology-parf-guide-system-mkii-104779
Hi Peter, sorry if i ask a stupid question.On this video, u drilled the first row of holes,great, i did that.now forming the triangle, where 8/10 holes match, u put a pin. But there is no hole yet drilled there,as tgey are still to be drilled, in hole 10
Hi there, I am sorry you are having trouble with drilling your holes. Please refer to further videos that show this process, and if you are still having issues, our technical team would be happy to help ua-cam.com/video/Bfxxjn85SRE/v-deo.html www.axminstertools.com/contact
Great Video, just wonder which Parf guide I got delivered as documentation is saying Park MK I but the ruler do have 3 and 6mm holes while the drill support does not have these 6mm snapin support.
Hi Juergen, you would have had the Parf Guide MK1, however, we have updated the MK1 to have the MKII guide sticks as standard. I hope this helps!
Hi, I was wondering if it’s possible to use a 22mm mdf top for a mft workbench? I guess it’s not a problem for the dogs, but is it a problem for the Festool clamps??
Ordered veritas parf dogs (currently out of stock), hope to purchase parf guide system in the near future... see what all the fuss is about ;)
I think the veritas parf dogs are the best value out there as they are stainless....
nathan, it's available via axminister in the uk, and they'll ship to us/canada, with a pretty hefty shipping no less.. but it's worth it.
I honestly cannot imagine who would want to use this - for what exactly?
Is there's a reason why the gap is precisely 96mm?
It appears that Peter does not carefully align the initial Parf stick parallel with the edge of the MDF top. I understand that all the 3mm holes will be aligned to each other perfectly (using the 3 4 5 rule) but the edge of the MDF will not be aligned with those holes. One solution is to cut the edge down using your track saw after you have created the 96mm spacing of 20mm holes. The other would be to use the Parf stick to align the initial 3mm hole either 32mm from the edge or 16mm. What alignment is the Festool MDF top to the first row of holes? Does this matter?
Good afternoon
I would recommend calling us on 0800 371822 to discuss your enquiries further with our technical sales team.
Kind regards
Jade
Customer Service
Peter
Received my new system and love it. I do have a question though. The stop collar retaining screw has been changed to a plastic one and it does not hold the bit from dropping through the jig and can't be tighter on the shaft. And a suggestion to put a slight notch on the shaft to retain the set screw from scoring the shaft of the bit. Will continue to enjoy the jig making other top Keep making the great shows
how many inches in a milli meter
Why does he always use MDF? Why not "Cabinet Grade or Baltic Birch Plywood?
Hi John, any wood can be used, however, we prefer MDF as it is cheaper and we can replace it easier. Kind regards Tracey Customer Service
Great system and great idea. Do you have any idea how we can buy in the US?
Hi Gary, we can ship to the US. Please contact our export team at exportsales@axminster.co.uk for a shipping quote. Thanks, Hannah
Lee Valley sells them.
Hi Peter, my UJK system is coming in the mail on Monday! Quick question. Is it better to apply finish before or after you drill the holes?
Hi Christopher, we would recommend applying the finish after drilling the holes to ensure full coverage. Thanks
This looks great! Will it be available in the US or Lee Valley?
TSO sells them
I can’t even remotely follow along with this vid because it takes me three minutes to pull each 3mm pin out of place and my knuckle is now bleeding.