Been using SonarWorks with included calibration profile on WH1000XM2 headphones, amazing difference. The Air and Sound-stage (for Audiophiles) noticeably improved as well. The calibration profile brings the frequency response curve to +/- 1 db of flat, love it.
Hi. Fantastic HPs. Got them too too re-check in my studio especially the bass parts. But it's a great HP to enjoy music from a good amp and CD player. Can listen for hours on it without fatigue. Have joy and be sound.
I love your initial reaction when you put the headphones on :D "ooh, oooh!! Wow!". I think unboxings are fun to watch, because we get to feel a bit like we're unboxing it by ourselves. Also: it gives a nice insight into what you get in there package, which is not always obvious.
I used the HD600 with sonarworks for a year. I stopped using sonarworks cal on the headphones. But not on my speaker cal. I felt like the HD600 are great.
Waiting really badly for your feedback about these. Also it is interesting to get your opinion about the headphone mixing in the next video. Everybody knows that it is impossible to get a pro mix with headphones, but you know... Also you need to test this setup with Subpac thing!
so let's "say" i buy the audio technica m50x and you buy the hd650 ( or some other expensive headphones ) and we both use sonarworks, what are the differences between me and you if sonarworks calibrates both of them to sound the same as the real world? am ignorant, can you help ? or anybody help me with this questions? :(
Nice... Use a good amp and dac with them and you'll be even more impressed. You will like HD800s even more... I usually don't watch unboxing videos but I like your reactions and trust your opinion. Congratulations on all your videos mate...
I got a pair of these. They do sound amazing. Comfort and build quality on top of that justify the eye-watering price for me. Could I go back to something more affordable? No, in a word. You do need a headphone amp to make them work properly though, they sound weak sauce straight from the AI or computer mini-jack compared to with an amp. They're high impedance I think, prolly why. They sound astonishing plugged directly into my Kemper. Which is bad in a way 'cos I can't get quite the same sound via my AI and Cubase (although I dare say you prolly could of course). Gonna be interested in this Sonar whatever-it-is business when you get round to it.
I had a Focusrite 2i2 until recently, now I got a 6i6. The 2i2 had phono (line out) sockets so I could just use a standard hi-fi phone cable straight into my headphone amp. The 6i6 doesn't have phono output sockets, only 1/4 inch jacks, so I got a pair of 1/4 inch-to-phone cables from my local music store. Both the 2i2 and the 6i6 proved to be weak sauce with the HD650s, this is dispite the fact that the 6i6 has it's own separate mains power supply (via trasnformer of course). My understanding of this situation (which I may be wrong about of course) is that the HD650 is bascially designed as an audiophile hi-fi headphone and therfore high impedence. Now a lot of people will be buying an AI and plug their low impedence headphones they normally use with their computer into it (low impedence 'cos expecting minisule USB/3.5mm jack level power) and if the 2i2 for example could kick out a headphone signal level that could drive HD650's and the like then on standard comupter oriented low impedence phones it would literally blow their eardrums out if they used that setting by accident say. Possibly permanent damage from one blast. My reading is the good folks at Focusrite decided that wasn't such a good idea. Too risky, so no high impedence headphone setting or amp. Or maybe they think thaqt real pros only use headhpones at low volumes anyway. Which is probably true. I was really disappointed with my HD650's initiallyt until I worked this out and got my headphone amp. When I did get it the diference was staggering. As to the Kemper, I don't know why it's both so good and so loud over headhpones. I never run it more than 50% volume and udually less than that, but I do know that it is much, much louder than even my headphone amp. Maybe they're simply not so risk averse. Or maybe they didn't think of it. Dunno.
I have used HD650s for about 20 years. They are not linear, nor are they even close. But they do sound lovely. I am more than interested to see how the software affects them. Let us know!
The 600 are one of the most neutral headphones ever made, with an almost perfect midrange, nice refined treble extension but they do lack a bit in bass impact and extension. 650 has a warmer midrange and a similarly refined treble, but even if the bass on 650 is a little warmer, they also lack in impact and extension. That said, they are still today among the best choice in their class, along with Hifiman HE400i, beyerdynamic DT990 PRO and AKG K702 65th Anniversary Edition. I would go for the 600 with their more neutral sound signature.
Please watch the health and safety video! You need those fingers! But yes, I have those, they are very nice indeed! They actually sound a little like my KH-120 monitors, kind of a family sound which is very comfortable and natural, with a marvelous clarity - still they reveal quite different things when actually mixing, certain aspects come into focus - I wouldn't bet on a mix done on these alone sounding 'right' when played back on the mains - however with the EQ who knows? Good luck with it!
These puppies are 300 ohm headphones, but their high efficiency makes them sound good enough straight out of a phone/laptop. They do benefit from a good headphone amp. Side note: If you think the HD650s are super high end, you will be VERY surprised. That said, still a great headphone!
I have a lot of experience with the HD650 and i will say they absolutely need a headphone amplifier. The built in amplifier in a macbook pro won't do them any justice. If you want to get the most out of them, take a look over at head-fi.org and read up on them. They're very highly regarded, but they absolutely need more power than a laptop or mobile device can provide. Enjoy them!
Btw, don't forget that these HD650 were already calibrated by the Sonarworks guys, so I don't think a review about them would work for most of the people out there.
Well yeah, they don't work for music that has mostly bass. They are geared towards listeners that like the full spectrum of music equally, from 20Hz to 20kHz. I would say they have very accurate amounts of bass, but will sound boring if you only expect bass to come out of them...
Try the models from the 500 line, if others seem too expensive for you. The HD 5xx models never disappointed me. The difference from HD 599 and HD 600/650 are like 7% at most (I struggle to hear the actual differences).
Yeah well perhaps you should recommend not nearly impossible to find, discontinued for over 10 years headphones (and therefore very expensive to buy from others).
Use a headphone amplifier and also let the phones burn in by using them for at least a week. The sound will improve even more. And the HD600 are superior in my opinion. A bit more neutral.
My god you are inexperienced with headphones! Jumping from the HD25 to the HD650 is a huge step up. The two actually don't even belong in the same sentence. I may not be an authority on audio, but I can tell you the headphone world is vast and much more varied than you can imagine. By the way, the headphones being expensive doesn't necessarily mean they are good. Just a popular example: the Beats Pro are ridiculously expensive, but they deliver really mediocre sound quality. If you are interested in learning more about the good, the bad and the ugly in the headphone world, we could meet up sometime, if you happen to live somewhere in the Randstad. I like audio in general and I'm an engineer of sorts, so there is definitely enough we could talk about on that respect already.
First of all, let me make clear that I wasn't trying to make him look stupid, or anything of the sort. I was simply quite surprised because he seems to know a thing or two about audio and he was blown away like that with the Sennheiser HD650, which despite being wonderful headphones, still are basically a 25+ years old design. At their price point, they stayed competitive for a very long time, but in recent years there has been an explosion in technological development. Watching his reaction to the HD650 and him saying that it seems that there is like a separate subwoofer makes it clear to me he hasn't had previous experience with any of the good modern headphones. The HD650 are not known for their bass extension, but for their silky smooth vocals. At a similar price point, there are the HiFiMan HE-400i, or the HiFiMan Sundara, which are much better known for their bass response. In the past I used to have Sennheiser HD-25, just like the ones he had. These are built like taks, which makes them great for bringing to concerts and not being concerned about damaging them, but the design itself doesn't allow for a good soundstage, imaging or extension in the bass region. The HD650 is meant to be used in a studio environment and I am glad to see he has now seen how much difference a design philosophy can make.
Don't know about that. Someone that hasn't ever heard very high-end headphones won't know to instantly appreciate the difference between the 600 line and 1000$+ headphones (I know I couldn't). Therefore, middle priced headphones are best for new people, since they won't have the guilt of having spent a bag of money on something that doesn't blow their brains out with the first 2 notes they hear.
White Sea Studio wow that really sucks.. hope you will find another place to live soon man. I’m sure a lot of your subscribers are willing to help you financially, me included
@heavymetalmixer91 You are misinformed, hopefully you haven't heard that from any "hardcore" elitist audiophile. The room treatment is only related to speakers, not headphones and the room you listen in is irrelevant when it comes to open back headphones. Basically, open back headphones are for less resonances and seashell effects inside the cups (therefore they sound more natural). The room treatment thing is important (relatively) for speakers because a large portion of the sound you hear from speakers comes from walls reflections, rather than the direct speaker itself. Obviously, you don't count on wall reflections to enhance your headphone listening experience....
It's time we dump the "you have to mix in the sweetsspot with monitors" ruls. Headphones were the big jump in music listening when they came out. They provide the most immersive experience. People mixing on monitors with $250K consoles are just audio masturbators. They are pleasing themselves, but no one else is sharing in the experience. There is simply no way to get what they are hearing into the ears of their audience, and the minute details over which they agonize are completely lost either in compression, in the hardware, or on the ears of the listeners who grew up with CDs at best and mp3s at worst. Sonarworks' headphone calibration tool is headed in the right direction, but it's still an overpriced piece of junk at this point. It does do a good job as a plugin for a headphone mixing or monitoring buss with a flat frequency response, but the Systemwide app makes the headphone output about 50% of volume, even with everything maxed out and Safe Headroom turned off, making it a worthless feature. So, it's overpriced at $99. I don't need 40 different profiles. The would make a lot more money if they gave away the host and charged $10 a profile. That pretty much everyone will buy it, and every time they upgrade their headphones, Sonoworks gets another $10 instead of the big fat 0 that I'd pay for the product as is. What they really need to do to make it worth the price is have a free calibration tool like they use at mynoise.net for making grey noise (this is a brilliant idea). They have sliders across the frequency range, and you use your listening setup to adjust each band until you can just barely hear it. This way, it's calibrated not just to your hardware, but to your hearing. Sonarworks should let you buy your personal calibration curve for a couple of bucks. Then they could sell a Pro version for $100 that takes your calibrated headphone profile and adjusts it to the average curve of other headphones and earbuds so that you can hear how the mix will sound when people are listening through crappy Apple bluetooth earbuds, for example.. Obviously you're not gonna be able to use calibrated earbuds to hear how your stuff will sound on Sennheiser HD650 cans, but it could work the other way around. The way Sonarworks' headphone calibration works now is pure Snake Oil. And the room calibrator with the mic is a scam. It should be your ears, not a mic, that is used to calibrate. Check out mynoise.net and see what how they do it. Makes so much more sense! They just need more bands, and a way to do it at more sound pressure levels. Like you start with a curve that represents the lowest level you can hear each band, then, they need to make your grey noise at a higher level and then have you adjust the level of the bands at several sound pressure levels by having you set the bands where a burst at a certain frequency becomes audible above the noise bed. I think this could be a really useful way to calibrate everything. I'm going to talk to some developers and try to get something like that going, because Reference 4 is just Snake Oil.
Dude! Careful with that knife. You are an accident waiting to happen.
That bread knife tho.
Dutch people need those to cut through their fancy breads and cakes.
In the DAW Ayee my guy!
Been using SonarWorks with included calibration profile on WH1000XM2 headphones, amazing difference. The Air and Sound-stage (for Audiophiles) noticeably improved as well. The calibration profile brings the frequency response curve to +/- 1 db of flat, love it.
Pro tip : always hold the blade of a knife when cutting
Hi. Fantastic HPs. Got them too too re-check in my studio especially the bass parts. But it's a great HP to enjoy music from a good amp and CD player. Can listen for hours on it without fatigue. Have joy and be sound.
I love your initial reaction when you put the headphones on :D "ooh, oooh!! Wow!".
I think unboxings are fun to watch, because we get to feel a bit like we're unboxing it by ourselves.
Also: it gives a nice insight into what you get in there package, which is not always obvious.
been using HD600 and 650 headphones for years, they're my favourite open backs
I like my hd 650 set. Very comfortable. Sound great. No curley cable to get notted up. Cable is independent of head set not built in.
What would you consider a closed back version of the HD650's?
does sonarworks correct the low end.. these headphones are mainly mids and highs.. ive tried a few at the shops but no low end...
I used the HD600 with sonarworks for a year. I stopped using sonarworks cal on the headphones. But not on my speaker cal. I felt like the HD600 are great.
Sonarworks have very shit headphones measurement equipment. Or at least when they started I don't know what they use now. Good for speakers tho.
Swing that blade w/ reckless abandon! I thought this was going to be the gory Halloween episode!
Waiting really badly for your feedback about these. Also it is interesting to get your opinion about the headphone mixing in the next video. Everybody knows that it is impossible to get a pro mix with headphones, but you know... Also you need to test this setup with Subpac thing!
so let's "say" i buy the audio technica m50x and you buy the hd650 ( or some other expensive headphones ) and we both use sonarworks, what are the differences between me and you if sonarworks calibrates both of them to sound the same as the real world? am ignorant, can you help ? or anybody help me with this questions? :(
Please test it also in comparison with tb Morphit, thanks
Keep up the good work yo
Nice... Use a good amp and dac with them and you'll be even more impressed. You will like HD800s even more... I usually don't watch unboxing videos but I like your reactions and trust your opinion. Congratulations on all your videos mate...
Hd800s don't have sound at 7khz. So they are not good for studio reference.
I got a pair of these. They do sound amazing. Comfort and build quality on top of that justify the eye-watering price for me. Could I go back to something more affordable? No, in a word. You do need a headphone amp to make them work properly though, they sound weak sauce straight from the AI or computer mini-jack compared to with an amp. They're high impedance I think, prolly why. They sound astonishing plugged directly into my Kemper. Which is bad in a way 'cos I can't get quite the same sound via my AI and Cubase (although I dare say you prolly could of course). Gonna be interested in this Sonar whatever-it-is business when you get round to it.
1234gregor I have a Focus rite 2i4 2nd gen. Do I still need an amp? If so how do I connect an Amp thru a audio interface at the same time?
Does your ada converter (audio interface) not have a headphone amp built in to it? Or is rhat the kemper is? Just curious✌
I had a Focusrite 2i2 until recently, now I got a 6i6. The 2i2 had phono (line out) sockets so I could just use a standard hi-fi phone cable straight into my headphone amp. The 6i6 doesn't have phono output sockets, only 1/4 inch jacks, so I got a pair of 1/4 inch-to-phone cables from my local music store.
Both the 2i2 and the 6i6 proved to be weak sauce with the HD650s, this is dispite the fact that the 6i6 has it's own separate mains power supply (via trasnformer of course). My understanding of this situation (which I may be wrong about of course) is that the HD650 is bascially designed as an audiophile hi-fi headphone and therfore high impedence. Now a lot of people will be buying an AI and plug their low impedence headphones they normally use with their computer into it (low impedence 'cos expecting minisule USB/3.5mm jack level power) and if the 2i2 for example could kick out a headphone signal level that could drive HD650's and the like then on standard comupter oriented low impedence phones it would literally blow their eardrums out if they used that setting by accident say. Possibly permanent damage from one blast.
My reading is the good folks at Focusrite decided that wasn't such a good idea. Too risky, so no high impedence headphone setting or amp. Or maybe they think thaqt real pros only use headhpones at low volumes anyway. Which is probably true.
I was really disappointed with my HD650's initiallyt until I worked this out and got my headphone amp. When I did get it the diference was staggering.
As to the Kemper, I don't know why it's both so good and so loud over headhpones. I never run it more than 50% volume and udually less than that, but I do know that it is much, much louder than even my headphone amp. Maybe they're simply not so risk averse. Or maybe they didn't think of it. Dunno.
I have used HD650s for about 20 years. They are not linear, nor are they even close. But they do sound lovely. I am more than interested to see how the software affects them. Let us know!
The HD 600 are around 20 years old. The 650 were made a few years later.
HD650 are great but for more neutral sound I would go with HD600. Also, these headphones need better amplifier then the one in laptop or phone.
Do you guys who are in headphones recommend the 650 or the 600 sennheisers for edm mixing and mastering purposes?
Sennheiser HD 600 are more neutral, so they will be better for mixing and mastering
The 600 are one of the most neutral headphones ever made, with an almost perfect midrange, nice refined treble extension but they do lack a bit in bass impact and extension. 650 has a warmer midrange and a similarly refined treble, but even if the bass on 650 is a little warmer, they also lack in impact and extension. That said, they are still today among the best choice in their class, along with Hifiman HE400i, beyerdynamic DT990 PRO and AKG K702 65th Anniversary Edition. I would go for the 600 with their more neutral sound signature.
I use these everyday. 10/10
Lol da mes man
Up to the next !!!
Please watch the health and safety video! You need those fingers! But yes, I have those, they are very nice indeed! They actually sound a little like my KH-120 monitors, kind of a family sound which is very comfortable and natural, with a marvelous clarity - still they reveal quite different things when actually mixing, certain aspects come into focus - I wouldn't bet on a mix done on these alone sounding 'right' when played back on the mains - however with the EQ who knows? Good luck with it!
To beat those calibrated 650 you would have to go with the Focal Clear.
Have you plan to make a boxing chapter?
Please, plug these on a good amp before attempting to review, plugging them directly to your MacBook it won't make justice to what they are.
These puppies are 300 ohm headphones, but their high efficiency makes them sound good enough straight out of a phone/laptop. They do benefit from a good headphone amp.
Side note: If you think the HD650s are super high end, you will be VERY surprised. That said, still a great headphone!
Look at an Orpheus XD
puts the box away carefully but just drops the headphones on the table many times.
I love how he doesn't test the headphones on his 32bit Hi-Fi interface; But uses them on his MacBook.
That's because I think he has enough experience to know he won't actually hear differences between standard 16 bit and 32 bit with his human ears....
I have a lot of experience with the HD650 and i will say they absolutely need a headphone amplifier. The built in amplifier in a macbook pro won't do them any justice. If you want to get the most out of them, take a look over at head-fi.org and read up on them. They're very highly regarded, but they absolutely need more power than a laptop or mobile device can provide. Enjoy them!
When do you plan to remove that 'MILF' poster? Noticed it for the first time. Was it put there intentionally?
Btw, don't forget that these HD650 were already calibrated by the Sonarworks guys, so I don't think a review about them would work for most of the people out there.
Have you been watching EEVblog Mailbag??
I returned my HD650. Way too little low end for my needs. Gonna get a closed headphones.
Well yeah, they don't work for music that has mostly bass. They are geared towards listeners that like the full spectrum of music equally, from 20Hz to 20kHz. I would say they have very accurate amounts of bass, but will sound boring if you only expect bass to come out of them...
I love sennheiser but i've only got the HD 280 64 ohms....
Try the models from the 500 line, if others seem too expensive for you. The HD 5xx models never disappointed me. The difference from HD 599 and HD 600/650 are like 7% at most (I struggle to hear the actual differences).
Where can i get that hodie?
Sting
P.S Try AKG K1000 for a more speaker-like representation that translates well. You'd need a little amp though.
I've been disappointed with AKGs in home listening use, I think they all sound lean, haven't tried the K1000 though
Yeah well perhaps you should recommend not nearly impossible to find, discontinued for over 10 years headphones (and therefore very expensive to buy from others).
Interesting to see a complete headphone Noob from an audio professional community.
to activate new license - press the Sonarworks logo ;)
Who would ever have said unboxing WASN’T exciting...? 😆
Use a headphone amplifier and also let the phones burn in by using them for at least a week. The sound will improve even more. And the HD600 are superior in my opinion. A bit more neutral.
"Soon you wont have a home"?? Whatever you're going through, I'm hoping the best for you!
Long story, bureaucratic bullshit, housing crisis etc...
I'm wishing you the best man!
AUDEZE MOBIUS GANG LETS GOOOOOO!!!!!!
My god you are inexperienced with headphones! Jumping from the HD25 to the HD650 is a huge step up. The two actually don't even belong in the same sentence. I may not be an authority on audio, but I can tell you the headphone world is vast and much more varied than you can imagine.
By the way, the headphones being expensive doesn't necessarily mean they are good. Just a popular example: the Beats Pro are ridiculously expensive, but they deliver really mediocre sound quality.
If you are interested in learning more about the good, the bad and the ugly in the headphone world, we could meet up sometime, if you happen to live somewhere in the Randstad. I like audio in general and I'm an engineer of sorts, so there is definitely enough we could talk about on that respect already.
Why is he inexperienced? He literally made an unboxing video with a quick first reaction. Not meant to attack you btw, just curiosity on why
First of all, let me make clear that I wasn't trying to make him look stupid, or anything of the sort. I was simply quite surprised because he seems to know a thing or two about audio and he was blown away like that with the Sennheiser HD650, which despite being wonderful headphones, still are basically a 25+ years old design. At their price point, they stayed competitive for a very long time, but in recent years there has been an explosion in technological development.
Watching his reaction to the HD650 and him saying that it seems that there is like a separate subwoofer makes it clear to me he hasn't had previous experience with any of the good modern headphones. The HD650 are not known for their bass extension, but for their silky smooth vocals. At a similar price point, there are the HiFiMan HE-400i, or the HiFiMan Sundara, which are much better known for their bass response.
In the past I used to have Sennheiser HD-25, just like the ones he had. These are built like taks, which makes them great for bringing to concerts and not being concerned about damaging them, but the design itself doesn't allow for a good soundstage, imaging or extension in the bass region. The HD650 is meant to be used in a studio environment and I am glad to see he has now seen how much difference a design philosophy can make.
Don't know about that. Someone that hasn't ever heard very high-end headphones won't know to instantly appreciate the difference between the 600 line and 1000$+ headphones (I know I couldn't). Therefore, middle priced headphones are best for new people, since they won't have the guilt of having spent a bag of money on something that doesn't blow their brains out with the first 2 notes they hear.
Unboxing videos are paying of natural curiosity :). You are going to be homeless or are you going to put a bed to your studio?
Both, the solution to being homeless is putting a sleeping bag underneath the console...
That doesn't sound too well. Best of luck!
@@Whiteseastudio I hope you're doing fine, Wytse. I'm a bit worried!
"bedienungsanleitung" , en weg gaat dat boekje! :-D
ok ... god damnit that breadknife fucked my day up
"Under the Bridge Studios"
Soon you won't have a home anymore??? Damn dude that sounds serious
It is pretty serious actually... but I can put my sleeping bag under the console 😂
White Sea Studio wow that really sucks.. hope you will find another place to live soon man. I’m sure a lot of your subscribers are willing to help you financially, me included
I know man, It's not a purely financial case... It's waaaay crazier then you might think. I will make a separate video about this...
! BEDIENUNGSANLEITUNG !
Hey man watch wat you doin wid that Knife
If only they were closed-back, I don't have an acoustic-treated room, so open-back headphones are a no-no for me.
why?
If you are talking about noises. Try etymotic er4s. Or mk5 for cheap.
@heavymetalmixer91 You are misinformed, hopefully you haven't heard that from any "hardcore" elitist audiophile. The room treatment is only related to speakers, not headphones and the room you listen in is irrelevant when it comes to open back headphones. Basically, open back headphones are for less resonances and seashell effects inside the cups (therefore they sound more natural).
The room treatment thing is important (relatively) for speakers because a large portion of the sound you hear from speakers comes from walls reflections, rather than the direct speaker itself. Obviously, you don't count on wall reflections to enhance your headphone listening experience....
Just FYI, headphone require a "burn in" period of about 100 hours before they start working as intended.
Sodeju!
Never let than man near my steak...
BEDIENUNGSANLEITUNG!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
3rd viewer yaay!
It's time we dump the "you have to mix in the sweetsspot with monitors" ruls. Headphones were the big jump in music listening when they came out. They provide the most immersive experience. People mixing on monitors with $250K consoles are just audio masturbators. They are pleasing themselves, but no one else is sharing in the experience. There is simply no way to get what they are hearing into the ears of their audience, and the minute details over which they agonize are completely lost either in compression, in the hardware, or on the ears of the listeners who grew up with CDs at best and mp3s at worst. Sonarworks' headphone calibration tool is headed in the right direction, but it's still an overpriced piece of junk at this point. It does do a good job as a plugin for a headphone mixing or monitoring buss with a flat frequency response, but the Systemwide app makes the headphone output about 50% of volume, even with everything maxed out and Safe Headroom turned off, making it a worthless feature. So, it's overpriced at $99. I don't need 40 different profiles. The would make a lot more money if they gave away the host and charged $10 a profile. That pretty much everyone will buy it, and every time they upgrade their headphones, Sonoworks gets another $10 instead of the big fat 0 that I'd pay for the product as is. What they really need to do to make it worth the price is have a free calibration tool like they use at mynoise.net for making grey noise (this is a brilliant idea). They have sliders across the frequency range, and you use your listening setup to adjust each band until you can just barely hear it. This way, it's calibrated not just to your hardware, but to your hearing. Sonarworks should let you buy your personal calibration curve for a couple of bucks. Then they could sell a Pro version for $100 that takes your calibrated headphone profile and adjusts it to the average curve of other headphones and earbuds so that you can hear how the mix will sound when people are listening through crappy Apple bluetooth earbuds, for example.. Obviously you're not gonna be able to use calibrated earbuds to hear how your stuff will sound on Sennheiser HD650 cans, but it could work the other way around. The way Sonarworks' headphone calibration works now is pure Snake Oil. And the room calibrator with the mic is a scam. It should be your ears, not a mic, that is used to calibrate. Check out mynoise.net and see what how they do it. Makes so much more sense! They just need more bands, and a way to do it at more sound pressure levels. Like you start with a curve that represents the lowest level you can hear each band, then, they need to make your grey noise at a higher level and then have you adjust the level of the bands at several sound pressure levels by having you set the bands where a burst at a certain frequency becomes audible above the noise bed. I think this could be a really useful way to calibrate everything. I'm going to talk to some developers and try to get something like that going, because Reference 4 is just Snake Oil.
Sharpen your tool
Ugh!
get a real knife, not a bread cutter lol
your voice doesn't match your look at all 😂
I like my hd 650 set. Very comfortable. Sound great. No curley cable to get notted up. Cable is independent of head set not built in.