Dark Angels vs Emperor's Children - Horus Heresy (Battle Report)
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- We’ve had another guest and it’s none other than @norrisson_crusoe in the studio! Bringing with him his amazingly painted Emperor’s Children to battle it out against the Dark Angels in a Zone Mortalis game where Captain Lucius is battling the legendary Corswain!
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Allegiance: Loyalist
I: Dark Angels
HQ: +
Corswain: Warlord
. Deathwing Companion Detachment
. . Deathwing Companion: Bolter, Terranic Greatsword
. . Deathwing Companion: Bolter, Terranic Greatsword
. . Deathwing Companion: Bolter, Terranic Greatsword
. . Deathwing Companion: Bolter, Terranic Greatsword
. . Deathwing Oathbearer: Plasma Pistol, Power Fist
Elites: +
Contemptor Dreadnought Talon: Dreadwing
. Contemptor Dreadnought: Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, 2x Plasma Blaster
Inner Circle Knights Cenobium: Deathwing, Slayers of Kings
. Order Cenobites: Terranic Greatsword
. Order Cenobites: Terranic Greatsword
. Order Cenobites: Terranic Greatsword
. Order Cenobites: Terranic Greatsword
. Order Cenobites: Terranic Greatsword
. Order Preceptor: Thunder Hammer
Troops: +
Tactical Squad: Stormwing
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. 10x Legionaries (collective): 10x Bolt Pistol, 10x Bolter
. Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Legion Vexilla
. Legionary w/ Options:: Augury Scanner, Bolt Pistol, Bolter
Tactical Squad: Stormwing
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. 10x Legionaries (collective): 10x Bolt Pistol, 10x Bolter
. Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Legion Vexilla
. Legionary w/ Options:: Augury Scanner, Bolt Pistol, Bolter
Allegiance: Traitor
Legions Astartes or Hereticus: III: Emperor's Children
Rite of War: +
Rite of War
HQ: +
Captain Lucius: Close combat weapon, Sonic Shriekers, Warlord
. Command Squad, Tartaros
. . Tartaros Chosen: Combi-Bolter
. . . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. . Tartaros Chosen: Combi-Bolter
. . . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. . Tartaros Chosen: Thunder Hammer
. . . Magna Combi-Weapon: Magna Combi-Weapon - Meltagun
. . Tartaros Chosen: Thunder Hammer
. . . Magna Combi-Weapon: Magna Combi-Weapon - Meltagun
. . Tartaros Standard Bearer w/Melee Weapon: Thunder Hammer
Elites: +
Apothecarion Detachment
. Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
Contemptor Dreadnought Talon
. Contemptor Dreadnought: 2x Combi-Bolter, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon
Palatine Blade Squad: 4x Palatine Warrior, 4x Phoenix Rapier
. Palatine Prefector: Bolt Pistol, Phoenix Rapier, Sonic Shriekers
Troops: +
Despoiler Squad
. Despoiler w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Power Sword
. Despoiler w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Power Sword
. Despoiler w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Power Sword
. 11x Despoilers (collective): 11x Bolt Pistol, 11x Chainsword
. Legion Despoiler Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Sonic Shriekers
. . Power Weapon: Phoenix Power Spear
Despoiler Squad: Inductii
. 9x Despoilers (collective): 9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Charnabal Tabar
. Legion Despoiler Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Charnabal Tabar, Power Armour - Ігри
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hot damn these Emperor's Children are beautifully painted. love the purple and pink shading on the armor with that little green highlight. and the faces! these might be the best painted faces ive ever seen and actually make me want faces instead of helmets. all of this makes them look like from a retro steampunk video game. so good.
They are gorgeous!
I may be a Dark Angels kind of a man .. but geez ! This is by far my favorite Emperor's Children army so far ! Thank you for showing such a cool versus !
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So you like traitor legions
I havent even seen the report yet but... An other Heresy Battle Report! LETS GO!
Enjoy Champ!
Go on Corswain! ⚔️ great batrep as always guys 🫶🏼
Thank you 🙌
Love seeing more HH! Thanks for the great content!
Glad you are enjoying it
Oh damn Jose is kinda cute AND HIS MINIS ARE ABSOLUTELY STUNNING NO WAY
He’s cute isn’t he 😆
Looks like there is a repeat of turn 2 after the magna combi weapons wound. Looks like around 26:49. Was a little weird because it went from checking to see if the Sgt had a 5+ inv to a fade in back to the beginning of the movement phase.
Might be a mistake in the edit. Will check thanks!
Yeah it’s a double segment the same right?
@@SNBattleReports Looks like it. Great game though. :)
My friend and I have this EC v DA matchup all the time, so it was lovely to watch. :)
Dude that ec army has been on my instagram for a while now, maybe THE BEST heresy painter I’ve ever seen
Agreed 👍🏽
Love the content 30k is so cool
Glad you enjoy it!
I'm starting to see a theme of lists that don't match up power wise. Beautiful forces but it kind of often seems like one army, often Paldos is a lot stronger from a more experienced, and very good player. It's just my feedback it's more interesting to watch games that have the other players experience and army in mind IMO.
It's not that entertaining if I can predict the victor of the game simply by looking at the army, all tyrannic great swords in ZM plus Corswain? Just some honest feedback.
Thanks for the beautiful game as always sirs! Both these armies are absolutely gorgeous
You have had a couple of negative comments lately. You know I played Lucius right? A terminator retinue, and prob one of the best elite units in the game. I don’t know what you want me to play honestly. Did you want me to take tactical marines and get slaughtered 😆
These lists are a very very close power wise I actually think the Emps one is even stronger to me honest
Pardo does bring stronger lists quite often but these lists were a lot closer than those in some other games, and I feel like statistically failing those 2 failed charges should have really swung it - but the dice weren't having it. That's how it goes sometimes!
@@andydow6427 his dice rolling was really really bad!
@@SNBattleReports No I just feel that I've played the game and more specifically dark angles enough to know they slaughter basically anything they fight in combat hitting on 3s with instant death swords and I know as good as Lucius is he's not going to likely stand much of a chance against Corswain who's got a 3++ and a sword that typically causes multiple instant death wounds. I'm not begrudging you for being a good player or sportman anything I'm just saying I've been playing heresy for a long time and when I've been pretty consistently winning with a strong faction I tend to mix up the units I take and challenge myself against the newer players or less competitive players is all.
I apologize if that's negative I just thought it was worth commenting because often times once again if I look at two lists and know who will win very likley before the two play it's a little boring and results in a lot of people just turning the video off once they see its going as the expected.
Again lovely armies and you guys are great on camera, I love the channel I just thought that might be good feedback because I know I'm not the only person who feels that way when they watch games.
Also to be clear I don't think all your lists are brutal I just think having players discuss lists before hand can lead to more engaging games to watch.
Wonderful content guys. Have you considered running your Inner circle Knights as the Broken Claws order from the PDF? They can take Advex mors greatswords which replace Murderous strike 5+ with Brutal 2 and +1 strength. I think they are mathematically better against almost everything, especially enemy terminators.
Will check them out
TGS' sweep in most situations that you actually want to be using cenos for + the advex mors hekatonystika is ass compared to hunter of beasts or slayer of kings. I think the advex mors is a lot better at killing TEQ, but literally just take thunder hammers if you want your cenos to fight terminators.
nice zone mortalis, ( the emperor children tartaros terminators made me think they were phoenix terminators, beautiful )
Glad you liked it
Love the Zone Mortalis Battle Reports!! 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks Boss
Always a good day when the Dark Angels are on the field. Emperors Children looked beautiful but you need to burn those dice.
You got that right!
He's one of the best HH painter ever, his EC and IH are just amazing
Agreed!
Lol im glad to see this is a Zone Mortalis battle
At first I saw an hour and a half batrep, and was like “is this game just the Horus Heresy equivalent of having your lvl 4 wizard miscast and die turn 1?”
😂
>someone brings a random "duellist" HQ and tries to fight corswain/sigismund/whatever and dies because of course they do
Never seen that one before
Sorry don’t understand buddy
@@SNBattleReports it's just something that happens very often, people fight battles that can't be won and it always goes the same way, some characters just don't lose and beat everyone else every time
@@notarealperson8956 I don’t agree with this Sir I’ve had every character h
Good and bad win and loose
The perfect battle report tonight as I am printing and building, first of the month means time for us to have a first legion army is printing 5k too much. Christopher DBG
Happy New Year buddy
Me:"that's not fair, how can you be such and incredible painter AND so cute - what's the catch?"
Jose: *starts rolling dice*
...now I understand his sacrifice 🤣
bahahahaha!
Should do a new game off 8th vs tenth just to prove what is the better part to point transfer 😉 could do a black league edition magic including. 😃😄😁😆😅5 Smile's.
Does anyone know more about the bits used for the Phoenix Guard terminators? Very interested in those heads and thunder hammers.
Hi man, it’s the EC player in the video, I don’t know exactly the files, but those are 3D printed, search in 3D cults for thunder hammers and EC heads and you’ll find it! ❤
El ejército de Hijos del emperador es una preciosidad, felicidades 👏👏
Thanks Fran
Jose's ECs are incredible!
You’re incredible, brother!
They Truley are
amazing report
😊
stunning army Jose!! Great Heresy content guys!
Thanks Sumeet❤❤❤
Thanks Champ 👊🏽
@@joseluismunozgonzalez7615 Do you have a blog or instagram where we can see some better pictures of your army? I would love to see more, and to find out about your conversions. I am especially interested in the heads and thunderhammers used for your terminators. Absolutely amazing work!
Let's go! Hype train choooo choooo
🚂 Chooo Choooo
You might be interested to know that RAW, companions can take the fall for Corswain even when he's in a challenge. Being in a challenge forces you to allocate "wounds" to the model fighting in the challenge, but their death-sworn companions rule allows you to allocate your own "Casualties". So Corswain might get wounded by an Instant death attack in a challenge, but a companion can be picked as the casualty, and still take the fall for him.
It's bullshit obviously, but companions truly are the best bodyguards.
Will re-read but that feels very off 😆
Perfection time! Let's go EC!
Boom!
I feel for the EC player. My contemptors never win a dreadnought off when they charge first 😅
Haha crazy wasn’t it
CORSWAIN GO GO GO !! ❤❤❤
R U INNIT2WINNIT ?? 😊
♥️
You played the EC advanced reaction completely wrong
Why is that
@@SNBattleReports Long-time Emperor's Children player here. It was indeed played incorrectly (I almost shouted at the screen, because I LOVE The Perfect Counter).
This Advanced Reaction tells us that it is triggered "when any enemy unit declares a Charge targeting a friendly unit". When that happens, the reaction requires a charge roll-off (just 2d6, no mods) between the two players. IF the Emperor's Children player's roll either BEATS - or - MATCHES the enemy's roll (very powerful detail), then the enemy unit IMMEDIATELY CANCELS their charge, and the Emperor's Children player can COUNTER-CHARGE the enemy unit as if it nothing happened, totally nullifying the enemy unit's actions. Now, it is a little unclear from the wording of the reaction, but I have understood that IF the Emperor's Children unit has the charge distance (from the roll) to make a successful charge, then they can do so, otherwise, instead of losing the reaction and not counter-charging, the Emperor's Children player can choose to shoot instead (and before determining if the enemy charges...meaning an enemy can be significantly whittled down by this reaction before a charge is even determined).
Anyways, when The Perfect Counter is triggered (regardless of the failure of the enemy's charge), the EC player can for one reason or other elect to shoot instead of charge, meaning, the enemy unit, not only may fail the charge, but the EC unit can ALSO blast away with ranged weapons instead of charging (this is very situational, but might make sense in an odd case where Sun Killers are charged or something). Anyways, bottom line, this reaction is quite powerful, and can result in a whole lot of bad for the enemy player. Too bad Jose was short-changed in this one by not using it to its full potential, but now you guys know for next time.
Also, an aside for Jose, I have been a big fan of your rendition of the III Legion for quite some time. You're one of the few who do them justice!
@@Ambarenya13thanks buddy! We were fully aware of the advanced reaction option of shooting if you’re not able to charge, but i had in mind that in ZM shooting reactions hits at six, and I rather to don’t waste those combis in there. I could have shoot with the combibolters though, but with the hands I had I literally skipped it intentionally…😂
Anyway, thanks so much for clarifying it even more, buddy. Really appreciated 💜
Yay more Horus Heresy!
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I’m happy you doing this!
Tho ZM gameplay it’s not my thing I prefer to watch
Watch it is.
ANOTHER Horus Heresy game so soon? Boys you spoil us! 😁
Glad you are enjoying them!
No charge after flank? 😳
Apparently not 😔 We are confused as well
@@SNBattleReports Zone Mortalis nuance I guess?
its in the new FAQ, but is such a silly rule. no idea what inspired it.@@pascal9055
@@gabrielgoldmusic For regular games too? Either way it's idiotic.