Mac Address does things in a very Apple-esque fashion: they aren't rushing videos to be the first to market, they take their time and do things... differently. I kinda like it.
@@robert-zr1kx This channel is targeting people that see things like that as important. It's kind of a deep topic really. A topic focused primarily on aesthetics.
Wow, that demonstration of file management on iOS/iPadOS is a perfect example of how frustrating it gets to use those products for work, haha. Love almost everything else about Apple's products though!
that issue on files happens to exactly NOBODY since nobody has all cookies blocked purposefully in the safari settings. the app even fucking tells you what to do - unblock cookies!!!
@@jaiskreno yeah, "nobody" experiences that. Sure does explain why it's documented in the video and someone else that's never talked to this dude before has had the same experience. I guess that's "nobody."
@@tomsaltner3011 Hi, I've having some trouble with using dropbox with ipad pro. I'm a photographer and I tend to transfer hundreds of photos sometimes over a couple of GB or more. I find that when I use any of the cloud service such as dropbox, wetransfer or google drive, it will only transfer a few photos, maybe around 10 or more, and it will get stuck. The only way i can get it to transfer all is to compress all the photos and transfer it and even this only works with dropbox. Since you have been using dropbox, may I ask if you have issues transferring big amount / large file size files using dropbox without compressing them? Thanks!
THANK YOU for mentioning ProRes. Like, I’m into video editing, and the lack of ProRes is actually crazy, especially because they showed off editing multiple streams of full quality 4K ProRes in their MacBook Air keynote … with the same SOC.
This is what I want from a Mac channel. Reviews and opinions from a Mac Guy, who isn’t a total fanboy unwilling to highlight issues with the system. I would love a video on older Macs and wether or not they are good daily drivers in 2020
Depends on use case but overall you can find some really great value and (depending on model) reliable machines. This was my experience with them: Bought my 2014 MBP retina for like £600 in early 2017 and it got me through all 3 years of uni for notes, essays, research and the battery somehow managed to be better than new windows laptops my class mates had bought for around the same money, thing would go for 6 hours easily. It handled some premiere and after effects timelines well enough but definitely not a great experience, if you can find one with a dedicated GPU maybe it’d be better but couldn’t tell ya. Used older iMacs can also be really good value ESPECIALLY for basic use, you can get a cheap 21” with a great screen, speakers, mic and -decent- webcam for like £350 and you’ve got yourself a home pc setup that’s stupid simple for your parents/grandparents to use and manage and get most basic work done (got my mom a 2014 imac and gran a 2012 one and suddenly I stopped being a full time IT support rep lol)
2nd the motion! The 10 and 12 core Xeon W iMac Pros in Apple's Scratch & Dent [I mean Refurbished Store] are starting to be more aggressively priced and are still more than competent for my use - pro audio involving very large sample based scoring projects. I'm talking projects that would lock up an i7 iMac with 32Gb of sys. memory.
This is a pragmatic take, I like it how you ran through the workflows to really make us understand the reason behind the complain of some pro users. Ipad is indeed a complementary content consumption and easy access device. In no way a replacement for a desktop or even a MBP
It does not make the 12.9 iPad a bad purchase though. Many people just want it to replace their laptop and end up hating it... It makes no sense to me. It was never advertised or implied in any way to be a laptop replacement.
@@igorcosta8559 It could be a laptop replacement with conditions. iPad can do 90% of the things most people do with their laptop, but that 10% left is where laptop shine. If that 90% is you then it can replace laptop, if that 10% is you then it can't. It should be easy to understand that iPad can't 100% replace a laptop. It is beyond me that people take ads so literally and use ads punchlines as argument. Please just stop doing it.
it upsets me that Apple is intentionally holding back the stuff you can do with the iPad Pro to keep it from eating into their Mac sales. It is most definitely really interesting to see a discussion on wether the pro moniker is something even worthy of being placed on the iPad Pro and wether it’s pro features can even be taken advantage of. The way I see it it can’t and Apple is doing so on purpose
I'm pretty sure their profit margins are higher on iPads though. I am not sure Apple is intentionally holding back for monetary reasons. I think they're trying to showcase their vision of future computing and are hoping for workflows to change around the tablet as opposed to the other way around. They're trying to change the computing paradigm, as opposed to cater to the existing one.
I fully agree with you here, this is my biggest frustration with Apple as well. I would love to replace my Macbook Pro with an iPad Pro as an all-in-one mobile computer, but as long as I cannot switch from a mobile OS (= iPadOS) to a desktop OS (=MacOS) on the iPad Pro, i will never spend more then $400 on any iPad.
@@MichaelPanneflek I got an M1 iPad Pro 12.9”. It actually serves well for lighter workloads, but as Jonathan showed in the video, the moment you actually need to conduct business with this thing, it will let you down. As more of a creator by hobby, I want to stick around and see just how deep the rabbit hole will go, but even I’m frustrated enough to begin considering a MacBook.
The only real defence I have for Apple is this: The iPad Pro is useful for custom made business application similar to the HoloLens 2. With its camera it can do 3D scanning & it is ideal for AR applications. This will find its use for businesses who use the iPad to train their new staff. Or for real estate company who will use custom software to record a 3D model of a building & can then present it to a customer via the iPad (possibly remotely). This all needs very specific software though and won't be of much use for the average iPad user. For homeuser it would make a great mobile game console but Apple doesn't really support this either.
9:33 That perfectly sums up the iPad. It's only a complement to a workflow, not the center. For devices like the iPad and iPad Air, and maybe even the 11" iPad Pro, that's fine. But for the 12.9" iPad Pro, which has the same power as an iMac and costs roughly the same with all of the accessories, it needs to be able to be the center of the workflow like a traditional computer. What makes that fact infuriating is that Apple can easily make that possible by just tweaking iPadOS to have none of those arbitrary limitations.
The problem is that it would be only possible for iPad Pro M1 and new iPad Air 5 Apple would need to develop 2 different iPad os One that works with A15 and below and one that works only for iPads with M1
Some of the reviews for this don't make sense. This ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxUGaHtKW8MwCql2fPyIm9-ftTqSMzKFFA works as well as any power strip I've used. Plug in what you need, be sensible about it & keep it movin' The construction is plastic but it's a sturdy piece. It has a single toggle switch & the swivel jacks are useful as well. Plugged in next to Tripp Lite Isobar takes some of these reviews with a pinch of sumthin' - does what it says & functions properly.Had for about a month. Perfect no complaints will update if anything changes.
The channel reminds me of the science videos we used to watch in elementary school. Like that old school editing with shots of nature and calming music between points. I like it.
This was a great video, and something I can actually comment on! I'm someone who uses iPad in a support capacity for work and am not a photo/video guy. I'm a software developer, by trade, and I went with the iPad Pro 11 because the 12.9 felt too big. What I use it for: - Sidecar (Love it) - Software Architecture Design using GoodNotes (Love it) - User Interface Flow Design (Combination of GoodNotes and Adobe XD) - PDF markups for technical documentation (Also GoodNotes) - Code Reviews from the couch - Teams Meetings - Signing Legal Agreements - Document Scanning using the camera - The occasional email (lol) Essentially, ALL of these things can be attained on the base iPad or iPad Air. Bought the pro because of the slightly larger screen from the base iPad and because much of the cost was subsidized by my employer (yay WFH budget!). SplitView is great for reading/watching a video and note-taking at the same time. The option to have a mouse + keyboard case allows me to be relatively productive in a space that I wouldn't want my laptop or can't get to my desktop (I went with the Logitech Slim Folio Pro because of the cheaper price tag and I hate using trackpads and my old MX Anywhere 2 mouse). I graduated from the base iPad and can say I appreciate the little bit of extra screen. You wouldn't think so, but that small screen bump improves the Sidecar experience a good deal. I also like the idea of the camera keeping me in view during meetings where I walk around, at least in theory (haven't used it yet). Essentially, it's a great (premium) device to have as a secondary support buddy during the work hours and after to play and watch stuff on.
Well done! This is the first review I've found that illustrates problems with iPadOS very well. Everybody else is just like "well it's an iPad, it does iPad things."
I super enjoy the quality and production value (writing and style and cinematography) of these videos I couldn't care any less about Apple products I just enjoy all the hard work you guys put into these Keep it up!
I had the same experience with a high refresh rate. I thought it was stupid until I used an iPad pro on a kiosk and got blown away by how the menu moves.
The M1 chip in the new ipad is basically the way Apple to say: “Bruh, you know how hard to design, create and advertise a freaking revolution ARM chip like this? I’m gonna use the hell out of this!”
Theoretical physics MSc: -Notability (books, notebooks) -TexPad (LaTeX editor for all my papers and assignments 1to1 to the Mac version) -Pythonista and Juno (coding in Python) -and then there's the rest.... Really love this lovely dovely little huge machine.
For the shared folder in Google Drive, you need to tell the owner to give you edit access in order to copy or move the files. This is for any computer, not just the iPad. I think your opinion would've changed slightly if you knew this.
I didn’t understand the HDR. Content but after watching a video on UA-cam in HDR, it’s insane. The iPad gets extremely bright and makes it so stunning.
@@ConorORegan I agree. I still like the other channels, but this one seems more creative then sitting in front of a camera and talking like many LTT videos.
the drive photo transfer issue was a great representation. just recently I had a similar issue, but not even with a cloud service, I just wanted to transfer from sd to iPad and damned i surrendered after two hours of transferring without knowing how long it would need to finish. Another part that got me was the screen size. i actually do kinda regret a tiny little bit buying the 12 inch model because its quite uncomfortable in your hand. i was just so hyped for a big screen coming from an 10 inch ipad.
one of your best videos. the google drive part is SO real… but year after year, ipados gets a little closer to being a laptop replacement, and i have faith it eventually will be one. I already do everything on my ipad if i can because it feels so wonderful.
As an artist and animator, my workflow usually consists of me drawing on the iPad Pro and then move the drawing on to my windows PC to animate. as you have shown it is EXTREMELY unpleasant to move files to and from the iPad, I'd have to use cable and use the itunes app (and even that isn't perfect either), anything else is unreliable. the operating system is really holding it back and Apple definitely 100% wants it that way.
The mac address videos always seem more polished and have a calmer vibe to them then other lmg channels. I wish this "style" was replicated onto the other channels. Or it could just be Jonathon's voice that adds the cherry on the cake. No clue...
My work is heavily invested in Office 365 and I do field engineering for a software company. The larger iPad pro is great and I leave my macbook at home. I can do presentations, digital whiteboarding, video conferencing, and my work has some nice single-sign-on capabilities implemented so that all my SaaS apps just work with no password required. This allows me a good 95% functionality in a nice slim and not to heavy profile. No more backpacks to lug around, I just hold my iPad when walking around between building at work or out in the field. So for pro business use, it is a good investment, for the most part. I can't stand the smaller screens so its the 13 inch or nothing for me. Also helps that work pays for my iPad, so cost is no concern.
This review reminds me so much of the old/good Top Gear car reviews. Entertaining comparisons and impressions with just enough spec talk to get the job done. Nice work!
I have been a heavy desktop user for a good while now, because I’m part time video editor, and I started another job recently that is less video heavy but more mobile. This iPad is perfect for me for viewing both movies and work videos and remote to my desktop top at home. I also am pretty exclusively IOS filmmaker because I am not much a of a camera guy and more of a post production worker.
I liked that you guys didn't gloss over the fact that if you have to use Google Drive or One Drive the workflow becomes insane to get the right files where you need them.
This is why to me, as a professional violinist, this iPad is the absolute best device. To begin, the 12.9 size is soo good for reading sheet music, having a device in which you can have any sheet music you could think of, and carry a whole ton of concertos, sonatas, solo repertoire, class stuff, etc, and being able to change the page with a foot pedal!? this is already more than enough, and if apple made a bigger not pro ipad maybe I would consider, but then again with this single device, thanks to how powerful it is I can also just plug in my interface and record with garage band my auditions, edit in Luma fusion or rush, take advantage of procreate, and all of them together is a gigantic creative tool, there are even apps for writing sheet music with the apple pencil and it automatically turns it into computer written stuff from your hand!! the m1 does come in to help with of all these, I specially feel it with rush. Also having this new beautiful screen for watching movies, or just random media consumption is amazing, the only device I really use for that, even the whole center stage feature has been helpful for all the online classes I give. And now with quarantine im even playing competitively CODM lol Couldn't be happier with it, 1100 for all of that, I think it's pretty good, and if later we finally get logic and a few other ipad os optimizations will just be beyond perfect.
Downtown San Antonio a year after this video released I was and still am getting 700 mbps down and about 50-70 up. I had no problem doing everything. Watching videos and playing multiplayer games with friends like pubg.
I'm a student. I've been able to completely replace my workflow with the iPad Pro 11" and the Macbook Pro. I can take all my handwritten notes on the iPad Pro using Apple Pencil and Notability, and features like Universal Control make it super easy to manage spreadsheets, documents, and presentations between the two of them. The center stage camera on the iPad is quite nice for video calls, and the ProMotion makes handwriting feel snappy. Also, the Lidar sensor allows me to experiment with 3D scanning, which is super cool to be able to play around with as a STEM major. Today, I'd probably go for the iPad Air, since it's cheaper and also has the M1 chip, but I don't regret getting the Pro, and it really is invaluable to my workflow.
I'm a sound engineer by trade and find that the 12.9" display is really handy when using remote control software for Sound consoles. Having all of the screen space makes it easier to control faders and multi-touch makes it like your in front of the sound desk even though your not.
Probably a technician holding the mic just out of shot with a good pop filter and some noise reduction applied, you can hear the voice lows being removed with the noise reduction
I just bought this ipad. I use it as second screen when I code (via duet display) and as a notes tool in class. A good portable 2nd screen is a couple hundred and since I need a tablet for notes anyways (because I very much prefer hand writing my notes into one note) the 12.9 ipad pro made the most sense. Amazed by how good the screen is, its now my primary media consumption device.
I really feel like only point of 12.9" iPad is in using it as a portable drawing tablet. I'm in love with M1 performance and it completely replaced my Cintiq, but as Jonathan says, if you're not an artist 11" model just make so much sense.
I love my ipad pro with the apple pencil, I use it way more that my laptop every day. I use it for class as a notebook, edit video on Luma fusion, professional photos in lightroom and write my papers on it. I can say getting one really improved my workflow
We use the iPad Pro for our field data. Great screen, camera and being able to run LiDAR point cloud data is big. Also the screen makes it very easy to view and redline building plans.
Thank you for your perspective. Every UA-camr thinks that Pro usecase is just video and photo editing/writing/drawing. THERE ARE OTHER PROFESSIONS TOO!!!
@@tasosjw Unfortunately, to apple and apple users, the only professions that DO exist for apple products ends up being just media (Music, art, writing, photo, video). So if what you do isn't in that list, then you are not a "professional" in the eyes of apple OR an apple user.
Just bought an iPad Pro (my first) for the very specific use of composing music with the apple pencil and reading music and so far I am super happy with it, for professional composers and players I do think the iPad is a truly pro machine, but maybe not for pros in other types of work
I'm a musician and I use the ipad pro for two very important purposes where a mac is inferior 1. Composing music on Notion by Presonus on the ipad pro. There is a mac version as well that syncs with the ipad version. The real kicker is being able to handwrite notation in. 2. Sheet Music. I use the app forscore to read pdfs of all my sheet music. Now I dont have to carry many music folders with me. There is even an option to turn pages hands free.
I got the 11 in. as my first apple product ever for school use for note-taking and Shapr3d. The apple pencil for CAD really is amazing and thats what sold it for me. Even if it's not a real computer, it can more than fully replace my previous school laptop in everything but gaming ofc. Without the apple pencil tho, you might as well get a MacBook lol.
Watch Samuel Suresh videos about studying and note taking. For games...watch MrMacRight....TheRelaxingEnd....and NoScopeFight channel. For art, watch Gal Shir. For beginners...watch Brandon Butch first things to do. Also watch apps that make ipad pro worth owning...and tips and tricks in using ipad pro
I'm still using my 2016 9.7 inch iPad pro. It may be kind of slow at certain things, but it really doesn't demand an upgrade 5 years later like my previous iPad 2 did. Apple really has gotten their silicone way ahead of everyone else to still feel snappy today.
Goodness, thank you so much for talking about the workflow! I work in film and everyone has an iPad, so when I needed to purchase a device for inventorying and doing paperwork, I bought one, even knowing I'd personally prefer a windows device. It is so cumbersome to use, it's exactly like you described it. I literally spent thirty minutes trying to download an attachment on a non-iCloud email address. It's generally just a painful device to use strictly as a computer, despite its great screen and ease of use with other Apple services.
I liked on a 2020 iPad Pro moments before being told to like if I couldn’t afford one… I just liked the video. It spoke to a lot of the challenges I’ve been having even on the older model.
The presenters rate of speech, inflection, tone and way he presented was at a good flow along with his own thoughts and opinions. Its nice not to be shouted at and he was easy to watch and comprehend.
This damn thing does almost none of what I'd want to need it for and yet I still want to need it.
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That has been the problem for tablets in general, pretty often they are a cool and beautiful solution to a problem we don't have. Specially with laptops becoming thinner, lighter and more capable it gets to the point where their slight edge in portability are their only benefit... but they are still super cool and desirable.
@ I'm just hoping the MBP/MBAir redesign equates roughly to them slicing the iPad in half and throwing a keyboard in the middle. My 2015MBP's battery is ballooning but, damnit, I'm an absolute sucker for new design and, y'know, maybe more than 2 usb-c ports. So I wait. 😵💫
I just bought a used 2018 ipad pro and its great for school, most of my friends have the air 4th gen and my tablet feels much smoother because of the faster screen
Let me resume all of this video: - Screen is good but OLED would be better - CPU is fast and has a lot of RAM but the OS doesn't use it at all and it's still an iPad and does everything any iPad can do - It's still a mobile OS with mobile apps and a very basic to almost no file management - Thunderbolt port is cool in theory but in practice a lot of things don't work with it, because it's a mobile OS - camera has "center stage" but it's still on the side when you have the iPad horizontaly (like you will 99% of the time) so this center stage is a solution for a non-existant problem and didn't solve the real one - Buy the 2018 model for 99.99% of the experience for 1/4 of the price or a Tab S7+ if you really care about true perfect HDR on your screen with Samsung's OLED (and other fun features too like PC mode/DeX)
Imagine having such a great infrastructure and some of the best developers in the world and not having basic functionality in your app (it goes to both google and apple btw).
I love the style of production of this videos. It's so fresh and different than anything LMG produces. I even think camera and leneses are different. That's amazing. I think this is might be the best LMG channel right now. 100% the artsiest.
Im genuinely impressed by this channel's content, both the writing and videography in particular. Great host and beautiful visuals! And I love how different it is from regular LTT, while maintaining that high quality. Love this video! Looking forward to the next one
Wow this video really got me thinking. I’ve been perplexed for a while about What is the iPad and iPad Pro. And I think this totally gets it right, it’s a secondary device, for a pro or not, to do some light tasks, or some very specific ones (like with the pencil to do illustrations and design), but it’s not a main device. It acts as accessory, and a tool of luxury for people who want to do those secondary tasks slightly more efficiently or quickly, but it doesn’t replace anything you could with a fully fletched computer. Hence why apple won’t add multi-user built in or better file management, because this you would still do on your “main” device. And apple wants to keep that way on purpose, so that it doesn’t overshadow it’s computers business. Man thanks for making that clear in mind
I really want to iPad pro to be an actual pro device. Ultimately was let down by WWDC, and seeing iPad further becoming an accessory to Mac instead of becoming its own central device.
This review was better written and levelheaded than most non apple specific channels. I'm really surprised of how much I enjoy this channel's content (given that I don't own a single Apple product). The video looks absolutely fantastic btw (on my Samsung's amoled screen 🤣)
I use my ipad (2020) for drawing and personal photo editing, or clients of mine, it's fantastic and I love it, nothing from teamwork. But there's no way I'm buying any new ipads down the road if there's no real change in the OS.
We have a few iPad Pros in testing right now for applications we use to manage servers, computers, and resources across the world. Definitely think that it's helpful, but only for the 5G speeds, so we'll probably wait until the Air comes with 5G so it's not as much.
This channel's content and videography is SO good. It was a very good decision to separate it from the usual LTT style.
I just can say that this is the best of LTT
Mac Address does things in a very Apple-esque fashion: they aren't rushing videos to be the first to market, they take their time and do things... differently. I kinda like it.
LTT videos aren't that scripted, like in the new 1petabyte storage video, they like went along, these are and i like these...
And LTT are Apple haters and fake news.
I can't tell which is higher quality: the iPad's screen or the video.
I think the video is the one highlighting the screen quality.
yea really watch only because of the quality of the video, LTTs are lacking a bit compared to MA :D
@@Gellhorn Seriously. MA has had a certain amount of production in every video that LTT doesn't
The video of course.
@@robert-zr1kx This channel is targeting people that see things like that as important. It's kind of a deep topic really. A topic focused primarily on aesthetics.
Thank you Jonathan, that Google Drive use case saved me some headaches.
Agreed, Google Drive on iOS is difficult at best and unusable for last minute scenarios.
Same, had to copy everything first to local then do the work
I live this, but with a Samsung phone. Google has some work to do with getting drive working better on portable OS's. Including their own :(
Use OneDrive lol. So much better. And you get to use other Microsoft programmes with 365 subscription
@@2youn8 tell this to their multi billionaire MNC bosses. There are times when you HAVE to settle for industry standards.
Wow, that demonstration of file management on iOS/iPadOS is a perfect example of how frustrating it gets to use those products for work, haha. Love almost everything else about Apple's products though!
Hm. That is not my experience at all and I have a model from 2018... I admit to not using Google Drive but Dropbox. It just works as expected.
Repair... Cough..
that issue on files happens to exactly NOBODY since nobody has all cookies blocked purposefully in the safari settings. the app even fucking tells you what to do - unblock cookies!!!
@@jaiskreno yeah, "nobody" experiences that. Sure does explain why it's documented in the video and someone else that's never talked to this dude before has had the same experience. I guess that's "nobody."
@@tomsaltner3011 Hi, I've having some trouble with using dropbox with ipad pro. I'm a photographer and I tend to transfer hundreds of photos sometimes over a couple of GB or more. I find that when I use any of the cloud service such as dropbox, wetransfer or google drive, it will only transfer a few photos, maybe around 10 or more, and it will get stuck. The only way i can get it to transfer all is to compress all the photos and transfer it and even this only works with dropbox. Since you have been using dropbox, may I ask if you have issues transferring big amount / large file size files using dropbox without compressing them? Thanks!
THANK YOU for mentioning ProRes. Like, I’m into video editing, and the lack of ProRes is actually crazy, especially because they showed off editing multiple streams of full quality 4K ProRes in their MacBook Air keynote … with the same SOC.
No, you are right. Depending on the codec, M1 MacBook Air can handle 4 streams of 4K, I’m not sure if they did it with the 8GB model tho
Use a Mac. That’s Your space.
@@KyleKoala3 not the point
this guy is so good at pacing his videos.
2:38 oh my goodness that transition though wow
Match cut
This is what I want from a Mac channel. Reviews and opinions from a Mac Guy, who isn’t a total fanboy unwilling to highlight issues with the system.
I would love a video on older Macs and wether or not they are good daily drivers in 2020
Cough Cough tailosive Cough Cough
Depends on use case but overall you can find some really great value and (depending on model) reliable machines. This was my experience with them: Bought my 2014 MBP retina for like £600 in early 2017 and it got me through all 3 years of uni for notes, essays, research and the battery somehow managed to be better than new windows laptops my class mates had bought for around the same money, thing would go for 6 hours easily. It handled some premiere and after effects timelines well enough but definitely not a great experience, if you can find one with a dedicated GPU maybe it’d be better but couldn’t tell ya.
Used older iMacs can also be really good value ESPECIALLY for basic use, you can get a cheap 21” with a great screen, speakers, mic and -decent- webcam for like £350 and you’ve got yourself a home pc setup that’s stupid simple for your parents/grandparents to use and manage and get most basic work done (got my mom a 2014 imac and gran a 2012 one and suddenly I stopped being a full time IT support rep lol)
2nd the motion! The 10 and 12 core Xeon W iMac Pros in Apple's Scratch & Dent [I mean Refurbished Store] are starting to be more aggressively priced and are still more than competent for my use - pro audio involving very large sample based scoring projects. I'm talking projects that would lock up an i7 iMac with 32Gb of sys. memory.
I'm daily driving a 2016 MacBook pro 15 for school and it still does everything I need I really can't complain.
@@Prr75 doesn’t the keyboard suck?
This is a pragmatic take, I like it how you ran through the workflows to really make us understand the reason behind the complain of some pro users. Ipad is indeed a complementary content consumption and easy access device. In no way a replacement for a desktop or even a MBP
It does not make the 12.9 iPad a bad purchase though. Many people just want it to replace their laptop and end up hating it... It makes no sense to me. It was never advertised or implied in any way to be a laptop replacement.
@@super_hero2 That's where you get it wrong. Apple themselves said for quite some time that this could be a laptop replacement.
@@igorcosta8559 It could be a laptop replacement with conditions. iPad can do 90% of the things most people do with their laptop, but that 10% left is where laptop shine. If that 90% is you then it can replace laptop, if that 10% is you then it can't. It should be easy to understand that iPad can't 100% replace a laptop.
It is beyond me that people take ads so literally and use ads punchlines as argument. Please just stop doing it.
@@super_hero2 I just mentioned that Apple was trying to market it as a laptop replacement. I didn't say I agree with any of it.
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If its not meant to replace a laptop like Macbook Air or Pro, why put M1 or this miniled screen in it?
it upsets me that Apple is intentionally holding back the stuff you can do with the iPad Pro to keep it from eating into their Mac sales. It is most definitely really interesting to see a discussion on wether the pro moniker is something even worthy of being placed on the iPad Pro and wether it’s pro features can even be taken advantage of. The way I see it it can’t and Apple is doing so on purpose
I'm pretty sure their profit margins are higher on iPads though. I am not sure Apple is intentionally holding back for monetary reasons. I think they're trying to showcase their vision of future computing and are hoping for workflows to change around the tablet as opposed to the other way around.
They're trying to change the computing paradigm, as opposed to cater to the existing one.
I fully agree with you here, this is my biggest frustration with Apple as well. I would love to replace my Macbook Pro with an iPad Pro as an all-in-one mobile computer, but as long as I cannot switch from a mobile OS (= iPadOS) to a desktop OS (=MacOS) on the iPad Pro, i will never spend more then $400 on any iPad.
@@MichaelPanneflek I got an M1 iPad Pro 12.9”. It actually serves well for lighter workloads, but as Jonathan showed in the video, the moment you actually need to conduct business with this thing, it will let you down. As more of a creator by hobby, I want to stick around and see just how deep the rabbit hole will go, but even I’m frustrated enough to begin considering a MacBook.
The only real defence I have for Apple is this: The iPad Pro is useful for custom made business application similar to the HoloLens 2. With its camera it can do 3D scanning & it is ideal for AR applications. This will find its use for businesses who use the iPad to train their new staff. Or for real estate company who will use custom software to record a 3D model of a building & can then present it to a customer via the iPad (possibly remotely). This all needs very specific software though and won't be of much use for the average iPad user. For homeuser it would make a great mobile game console but Apple doesn't really support this either.
Therefore,it should be called iPad Profit.
9:33 That perfectly sums up the iPad. It's only a complement to a workflow, not the center. For devices like the iPad and iPad Air, and maybe even the 11" iPad Pro, that's fine. But for the 12.9" iPad Pro, which has the same power as an iMac and costs roughly the same with all of the accessories, it needs to be able to be the center of the workflow like a traditional computer. What makes that fact infuriating is that Apple can easily make that possible by just tweaking iPadOS to have none of those arbitrary limitations.
The problem is that it would be only possible for iPad Pro M1 and new iPad Air 5
Apple would need to develop 2 different iPad os
One that works with A15 and below and one that works only for iPads with M1
Tell that to pro artists that make a living with only their ipad
Love this format for Mac Address
Some of the reviews for this don't make sense. This ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxUGaHtKW8MwCql2fPyIm9-ftTqSMzKFFA works as well as any power strip I've used. Plug in what you need, be sensible about it & keep it movin' The construction is plastic but it's a sturdy piece. It has a single toggle switch & the swivel jacks are useful as well. Plugged in next to Tripp Lite Isobar takes some of these reviews with a pinch of sumthin' - does what it says & functions properly.Had for about a month. Perfect no complaints will update if anything changes.
"Speed is irrelevant if you run in the opposite direction" - millionaire tech lead.
As a millionaire
he used to work for Google. the millionaire tech lead you mentioned
@@AvengedKaushik you forgot Facebook
Now that’s a supercool video editing example. Music choice is just perfect. I am beginning to see how Jonathan is the right guy for this channel.
I hope you're paying this guy chungusly Linus. He's good...
The channel reminds me of the science videos we used to watch in elementary school. Like that old school editing with shots of nature and calming music between points.
I like it.
love this style of video! Wouldn't look out of place on a channel 10x the size
Even 100x !!
I mean, it kinda is a channel 10x it's size lol. It's part of LMG/LTT
This was a great video, and something I can actually comment on! I'm someone who uses iPad in a support capacity for work and am not a photo/video guy. I'm a software developer, by trade, and I went with the iPad Pro 11 because the 12.9 felt too big.
What I use it for:
- Sidecar (Love it)
- Software Architecture Design using GoodNotes (Love it)
- User Interface Flow Design (Combination of GoodNotes and Adobe XD)
- PDF markups for technical documentation (Also GoodNotes)
- Code Reviews from the couch
- Teams Meetings
- Signing Legal Agreements
- Document Scanning using the camera
- The occasional email (lol)
Essentially, ALL of these things can be attained on the base iPad or iPad Air. Bought the pro because of the slightly larger screen from the base iPad and because much of the cost was subsidized by my employer (yay WFH budget!). SplitView is great for reading/watching a video and note-taking at the same time. The option to have a mouse + keyboard case allows me to be relatively productive in a space that I wouldn't want my laptop or can't get to my desktop (I went with the Logitech Slim Folio Pro because of the cheaper price tag and I hate using trackpads and my old MX Anywhere 2 mouse).
I graduated from the base iPad and can say I appreciate the little bit of extra screen. You wouldn't think so, but that small screen bump improves the Sidecar experience a good deal. I also like the idea of the camera keeping me in view during meetings where I walk around, at least in theory (haven't used it yet). Essentially, it's a great (premium) device to have as a secondary support buddy during the work hours and after to play and watch stuff on.
The trash Files app is one of the biggest things holding this iPad Pro back.
Well done! This is the first review I've found that illustrates problems with iPadOS very well. Everybody else is just like "well it's an iPad, it does iPad things."
I super enjoy the quality and production value (writing and style and cinematography) of these videos
I couldn't care any less about Apple products I just enjoy all the hard work you guys put into these
Keep it up!
i feel like i should be paying to watch this video. the video is super high quality
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I had the same experience with a high refresh rate.
I thought it was stupid until I used an iPad pro on a kiosk and got blown away by how the menu moves.
The M1 chip in the new ipad is basically the way Apple to say:
“Bruh, you know how hard to design, create and advertise a freaking revolution ARM chip like this? I’m gonna use the hell out of this!”
Theoretical physics MSc:
-Notability (books, notebooks)
-TexPad (LaTeX editor for all my papers and assignments 1to1 to the Mac version)
-Pythonista and Juno (coding in Python)
-and then there's the rest....
Really love this lovely dovely little huge machine.
For the shared folder in Google Drive, you need to tell the owner to give you edit access in order to copy or move the files. This is for any computer, not just the iPad. I think your opinion would've changed slightly if you knew this.
I didn’t understand the HDR. Content but after watching a video on UA-cam in HDR, it’s insane. The iPad gets extremely bright and makes it so stunning.
Great Video as Always! I enjoy the style of this channel over LTT.
I feel like the videos are a lot more artsy and more polished because uploads aren’t as often on this channel
@@ConorORegan I agree. I still like the other channels, but this one seems more creative then sitting in front of a camera and talking like many LTT videos.
@@jonathanalter7857 for sure, it has a documentary style which is really unique
@@ConorORegan the only thing it is missing are the fun sponsor transitions, but I think Linus patented that :)
I agree 👍🏽
the drive photo transfer issue was a great representation. just recently I had a similar issue, but not even with a cloud service, I just wanted to transfer from sd to iPad and damned i surrendered after two hours of transferring without knowing how long it would need to finish.
Another part that got me was the screen size. i actually do kinda regret a tiny little bit buying the 12 inch model because its quite uncomfortable in your hand. i was just so hyped for a big screen coming from an 10 inch ipad.
one of your best videos. the google drive part is SO real… but year after year, ipados gets a little closer to being a laptop replacement, and i have faith it eventually will be one. I already do everything on my ipad if i can because it feels so wonderful.
I don’t know who found Jonathan or where he came from, but wow is this guy is a master presenter. Each video I watch, I’m just blown away.
As an artist and animator, my workflow usually consists of me drawing on the iPad Pro and then move the drawing on to my windows PC to animate. as you have shown it is EXTREMELY unpleasant to move files to and from the iPad, I'd have to use cable and use the itunes app (and even that isn't perfect either), anything else is unreliable. the operating system is really holding it back and Apple definitely 100% wants it that way.
The mac address videos always seem more polished and have a calmer vibe to them then other lmg channels. I wish this "style" was replicated onto the other channels. Or it could just be Jonathon's voice that adds the cherry on the cake. No clue...
07:10 Slight continuity error, you close the iPad twice!
Aside from this, great video and production!
ever see a bruce lee film? they do it to be more impactful :)
My work is heavily invested in Office 365 and I do field engineering for a software company. The larger iPad pro is great and I leave my macbook at home. I can do presentations, digital whiteboarding, video conferencing, and my work has some nice single-sign-on capabilities implemented so that all my SaaS apps just work with no password required. This allows me a good 95% functionality in a nice slim and not to heavy profile. No more backpacks to lug around, I just hold my iPad when walking around between building at work or out in the field.
So for pro business use, it is a good investment, for the most part. I can't stand the smaller screens so its the 13 inch or nothing for me.
Also helps that work pays for my iPad, so cost is no concern.
This review reminds me so much of the old/good Top Gear car reviews. Entertaining comparisons and impressions with just enough spec talk to get the job done. Nice work!
I have been a heavy desktop user for a good while now, because I’m part time video editor, and I started another job recently that is less video heavy but more mobile. This iPad is perfect for me for viewing both movies and work videos and remote to my desktop top at home. I also am pretty exclusively IOS filmmaker because I am not much a of a camera guy and more of a post production worker.
Not to mention I was looking for something that would make mild graphic design work go smoothly on the go
This channel is the Disney channel on the LLT network. I love it 😂
I liked that you guys didn't gloss over the fact that if you have to use Google Drive or One Drive the workflow becomes insane to get the right files where you need them.
This is why to me, as a professional violinist, this iPad is the absolute best device.
To begin, the 12.9 size is soo good for reading sheet music, having a device in which you can have any sheet music you could think of, and carry a whole ton of concertos, sonatas, solo repertoire, class stuff, etc, and being able to change the page with a foot pedal!? this is already more than enough, and if apple made a bigger not pro ipad maybe I would consider, but then again with this single device, thanks to how powerful it is I can also just plug in my interface and record with garage band my auditions, edit in Luma fusion or rush, take advantage of procreate, and all of them together is a gigantic creative tool, there are even apps for writing sheet music with the apple pencil and it automatically turns it into computer written stuff from your hand!! the m1 does come in to help with of all these, I specially feel it with rush.
Also having this new beautiful screen for watching movies, or just random media consumption is amazing, the only device I really use for that, even the whole center stage feature has been helpful for all the online classes I give.
And now with quarantine im even playing competitively CODM lol
Couldn't be happier with it, 1100 for all of that, I think it's pretty good, and if later we finally get logic and a few other ipad os optimizations will just be beyond perfect.
Man... The videography is just breathtaking.😌 It's so calming.
Downtown San Antonio a year after this video released I was and still am getting 700 mbps down and about 50-70 up. I had no problem doing everything. Watching videos and playing multiplayer games with friends like pubg.
I'm a student. I've been able to completely replace my workflow with the iPad Pro 11" and the Macbook Pro. I can take all my handwritten notes on the iPad Pro using Apple Pencil and Notability, and features like Universal Control make it super easy to manage spreadsheets, documents, and presentations between the two of them. The center stage camera on the iPad is quite nice for video calls, and the ProMotion makes handwriting feel snappy. Also, the Lidar sensor allows me to experiment with 3D scanning, which is super cool to be able to play around with as a STEM major. Today, I'd probably go for the iPad Air, since it's cheaper and also has the M1 chip, but I don't regret getting the Pro, and it really is invaluable to my workflow.
I'm a sound engineer by trade and find that the 12.9" display is really handy when using remote control software for Sound consoles. Having all of the screen space makes it easier to control faders and multi-touch makes it like your in front of the sound desk even though your not.
i love this channel's calmer pace compared to the high energy LTT videos where everyone tries to be a low shelf comedian
This editing is wild. Great production here.
I bought one just for the screen. I like to watch videos outdoors. If you have the means, I highly recommend it.
The real question is: how is he recording audio outdoors at that quality with no visible mics?
Yes! Somebody please tell me this! I could legitimately use a mic like that
Probably a technician holding the mic just out of shot with a good pop filter and some noise reduction applied, you can hear the voice lows being removed with the noise reduction
@@cookieperimetre821 That would be some real clean handling if it's just that. Well, it's LTT, that's probably what happened
@@ajitzero Mac Address' quality is 10 times better than any other channels' I wouldn't be surprised if it actually was
LTT uses Lectrosonics lav mics. He probably has once clipped inside his shirt.
The title went from 'why hdr make sense in the m1 ipad pro' from 'why the m1 ipad pro isnt for pros' whyyy????
The old title is good enough
I like how the world is talking about the latest tech. outside of apple and jonathan is just like:-
"Aight, time to realease an iPad video."
I just bought this ipad. I use it as second screen when I code (via duet display) and as a notes tool in class. A good portable 2nd screen is a couple hundred and since I need a tablet for notes anyways (because I very much prefer hand writing my notes into one note) the 12.9 ipad pro made the most sense. Amazed by how good the screen is, its now my primary media consumption device.
I really feel like only point of 12.9" iPad is in using it as a portable drawing tablet. I'm in love with M1 performance and it completely replaced my Cintiq, but as Jonathan says, if you're not an artist 11" model just make so much sense.
I love my ipad pro with the apple pencil, I use it way more that my laptop every day. I use it for class as a notebook, edit video on Luma fusion, professional photos in lightroom and write my papers on it. I can say getting one really improved my workflow
We use the iPad Pro for our field data. Great screen, camera and being able to run LiDAR point cloud data is big. Also the screen makes it very easy to view and redline building plans.
Thank you for your perspective. Every UA-camr thinks that Pro usecase is just video and photo editing/writing/drawing. THERE ARE OTHER PROFESSIONS TOO!!!
@@tasosjw Unfortunately, to apple and apple users, the only professions that DO exist for apple products ends up being just media (Music, art, writing, photo, video). So if what you do isn't in that list, then you are not a "professional" in the eyes of apple OR an apple user.
Just bought an iPad Pro (my first) for the very specific use of composing music with the apple pencil and reading music and so far I am super happy with it, for professional composers and players I do think the iPad is a truly pro machine, but maybe not for pros in other types of work
I'm a musician and I use the ipad pro for two very important purposes where a mac is inferior
1. Composing music on Notion by Presonus on the ipad pro. There is a mac version as well that syncs with the ipad version. The real kicker is being able to handwrite notation in.
2. Sheet Music. I use the app forscore to read pdfs of all my sheet music. Now I dont have to carry many music folders with me. There is even an option to turn pages hands free.
I got the 11 in. as my first apple product ever for school use for note-taking and Shapr3d. The apple pencil for CAD really is amazing and thats what sold it for me. Even if it's not a real computer, it can more than fully replace my previous school laptop in everything but gaming ofc. Without the apple pencil tho, you might as well get a MacBook lol.
Watch Samuel Suresh videos about studying and note taking. For games...watch MrMacRight....TheRelaxingEnd....and NoScopeFight channel. For art, watch Gal Shir. For beginners...watch Brandon Butch first things to do. Also watch apps that make ipad pro worth owning...and tips and tricks in using ipad pro
I'm still using my 2016 9.7 inch iPad pro. It may be kind of slow at certain things, but it really doesn't demand an upgrade 5 years later like my previous iPad 2 did. Apple really has gotten their silicone way ahead of everyone else to still feel snappy today.
Never even considered buying one. Just here cuz Jonathan's videos are nice to watch.
I am a student and I use my iPad Air to take notes along with writing papers and other assignments.
Can we appreciate the editing. It's better than any other of Linus's Channels
I don't what should I see the video and visual or ipad but video is more stunning
Goodness, thank you so much for talking about the workflow! I work in film and everyone has an iPad, so when I needed to purchase a device for inventorying and doing paperwork, I bought one, even knowing I'd personally prefer a windows device.
It is so cumbersome to use, it's exactly like you described it. I literally spent thirty minutes trying to download an attachment on a non-iCloud email address. It's generally just a painful device to use strictly as a computer, despite its great screen and ease of use with other Apple services.
How can your channel have such a high quality? its actually scary
This video alone earned you a subscriber. The quality of the video is fabulous!!
I liked on a 2020 iPad Pro moments before being told to like if I couldn’t afford one… I just liked the video. It spoke to a lot of the challenges I’ve been having even on the older model.
The presenters rate of speech, inflection, tone and way he presented was at a good flow along with his own thoughts and opinions. Its nice not to be shouted at and he was easy to watch and comprehend.
I lovw how this channel is discussing about Apple, but more in a real life useful cases instead of showcasing
This video is the best Mac Address has put out so far, I'm loving where this channel is headed!
The production of videos on this channel blows my mind every time.
I really like how much you criticise the limitation Apple products have.
I still have and use my 1st gen iPad Pro every day.
It's from 2017 and has 120hz!
Starting to see its age, maybe one more year.
this is one of the best reviews I have ever seen of any product.
Love this channel even as a person who doesn't own a single apple product, you are a great host and keep up the great work! very well spoken
The videos on this channel are on another level
This damn thing does almost none of what I'd want to need it for and yet I still want to need it.
That has been the problem for tablets in general, pretty often they are a cool and beautiful solution to a problem we don't have. Specially with laptops becoming thinner, lighter and more capable it gets to the point where their slight edge in portability are their only benefit... but they are still super cool and desirable.
@ I'm just hoping the MBP/MBAir redesign equates roughly to them slicing the iPad in half and throwing a keyboard in the middle. My 2015MBP's battery is ballooning but, damnit, I'm an absolute sucker for new design and, y'know, maybe more than 2 usb-c ports. So I wait. 😵💫
I just bought a used 2018 ipad pro and its great for school, most of my friends have the air 4th gen and my tablet feels much smoother because of the faster screen
Finally someone who says a12-Zed. 🇨🇦🇬🇧
Let me resume all of this video:
- Screen is good but OLED would be better
- CPU is fast and has a lot of RAM but the OS doesn't use it at all and it's still an iPad and does everything any iPad can do
- It's still a mobile OS with mobile apps and a very basic to almost no file management
- Thunderbolt port is cool in theory but in practice a lot of things don't work with it, because it's a mobile OS
- camera has "center stage" but it's still on the side when you have the iPad horizontaly (like you will 99% of the time) so this center stage is a solution for a non-existant problem and didn't solve the real one
- Buy the 2018 model for 99.99% of the experience for 1/4 of the price or a Tab S7+ if you really care about true perfect HDR on your screen with Samsung's OLED (and other fun features too like PC mode/DeX)
I absolutely love my new 12.9 iPad Pro. Upgraded from 10.5 inch iPad Pro and it has been great
i literally had almost the exact same google drive problem today, bravo for the video quality 👏
Imagine having such a great infrastructure and some of the best developers in the world and not having basic functionality in your app (it goes to both google and apple btw).
Thank you for the black background!
Bruh, I loved the whimsical soundtrack! Great video! The state of the iPad Pro is weird, but at least they are powerful?
The production quality of this channel is sooo good and it covers things that other reviews always miss
I love the style of production of this videos. It's so fresh and different than anything LMG produces. I even think camera and leneses are different. That's amazing. I think this is might be the best LMG channel right now. 100% the artsiest.
Gosh I love the production value on these videos
Jonathan reminds me of a very smart Disney-Pixar character, right down to the hand gestures.
Im genuinely impressed by this channel's content, both the writing and videography in particular. Great host and beautiful visuals! And I love how different it is from regular LTT, while maintaining that high quality. Love this video! Looking forward to the next one
Wow this video really got me thinking. I’ve been perplexed for a while about What is the iPad and iPad Pro. And I think this totally gets it right, it’s a secondary device, for a pro or not, to do some light tasks, or some very specific ones (like with the pencil to do illustrations and design), but it’s not a main device. It acts as accessory, and a tool of luxury for people who want to do those secondary tasks slightly more efficiently or quickly, but it doesn’t replace anything you could with a fully fletched computer. Hence why apple won’t add multi-user built in or better file management, because this you would still do on your “main” device. And apple wants to keep that way on purpose, so that it doesn’t overshadow it’s computers business. Man thanks for making that clear in mind
I really want to iPad pro to be an actual pro device. Ultimately was let down by WWDC, and seeing iPad further becoming an accessory to Mac instead of becoming its own central device.
Maybe when Apple drops their iPad Pro M2 Ultra
This review was better written and levelheaded than most non apple specific channels. I'm really surprised of how much I enjoy this channel's content (given that I don't own a single Apple product).
The video looks absolutely fantastic btw (on my Samsung's amoled screen 🤣)
by the way, in iPadOS 15 devs can now request for more memory for their apps, the system doesn't always allocate it, but it's better than nothing
Man, Mac Address video getting better.
Pointing out that Google Drive , ProRes nuance just right!
Best production I have seen from Linus media group so far. To the point and professional. Keep it up!
I use my ipad (2020) for drawing and personal photo editing, or clients of mine, it's fantastic and I love it, nothing from teamwork. But there's no way I'm buying any new ipads down the road if there's no real change in the OS.
Best iPad review i have seen yet. Well balanced. Not biased for or against apple. Just plain facts. 👍
Andy is a great videographer. This channel is great.
We have a few iPad Pros in testing right now for applications we use to manage servers, computers, and resources across the world. Definitely think that it's helpful, but only for the 5G speeds, so we'll probably wait until the Air comes with 5G so it's not as much.