Thank you so much for your insightful video! I’m a part of the Elementor Cloud product team. You mentioned woocomerce and I couldn’t understand why you think it’s not supported. There are no limitations as far as I’m aware of. Thanks again for the video, many of the things you mentioned are already in the backlog.
Hey Roy, thank you for hoping into the conversation. My WooCommerce comment was based on a conversation with one of your colleagues in the influencer marketing dept and during the conversation last week, it was highlighted that WooCommerce wasn't fully supported. If that's not the case, that's great to hear. :)
Hi Ray, I use elementor pro on my site in the cloud, but was wondering if and when a staging option would be available, in case of rebuilding a site from the scratch and testing it without disturbing the current site. I wish something like WPvivid staging could be used to make a duplicate of the site and do edits before going live. Also, when I transferred my site from my previous hosting I had a lot of issues with the elementor kit not installing my site correctly in elementor cloud. I had Elementor Pro in my previous hosting and exported it using the kit function. But it did not move my files as expected. I ended up re-building all the pages all over again. On the other hand, building a new site in the cloud on a fresh install works flawlessly and it is pretty fast too.
Ownership of your site is very important. If I or one of my clients want to move off the Elementor Cloud, can I migrate it? And if so how much "junk" related to the Elementor Cloud will I have to clear off? Edited to say I didn't see all the videos when I posted, after posting I see where they will allow you to create a full backup (and migrate from it). While the average user of Elementor might not use FTP, it would be nice to have it for many reasons. It can come in handy.
Informative, thanks. I see this as a good alternative to wix etc. if you're looking to set up a single site, aren't interested in managing any back-end config or coding, but want to go further than the 'site in a box' options. I've just set up a site for a community organization - hosting, domain, elementor pro, etc. costs are all separate (dealing with legacy stuff, don't ask....). One stop shop for infrastructure and site hosting would have made sense for them if this was a brand new situation. Bottom line - before contributors here criticize this offering as not being up to premium performance standards, or not meeting their multi-site/multi-client, full-featured requirements, please consider that this is an initial offering. Glitches and gaps should be addressed over time. And, if it doesn't fit your requirements, then just stick with regular hosting models for now and see how this matures.
Do you have an update to this service? It boggles my mind that the performance isn't any better than shared hosting stats. Surely google cloud platform has to be better than that?
I think it was not quite ready for release yet. I've purchased it and am trying to build a site.It seems slow and I am getting error messages. I'm hopeful that they will improve it and I can get some value. In this state it's not that usable and I am going back to self hosting.
Thanks as always for sharing with us buddy. I am disappointed to see that there support does not seem to have improved, I also agree that including alpha/beta options is asking for trouble. On the outside it looks like interesting attempt for a first offering, however I would rather see them spending the time that has gone into developing and setting this up, by perhaps dealing with some of the bugs, or completing some of the experiments and making them part of the core product. Have they made a list of the plugins that are not currently working with the cloud platform publicly available?
I bought Oxygen for a lifetime use but it's kind of complicated for me. I ran into a problem where I have recent posts and pages 1-3, but no matter which page I click, it only shows page 1 (with a page 2 or 3 URL). I asked on Oxygen's facebook support and Discord but haven't gotten any responses. In general it feels like Oxygen users may need some coding knowledge whereas Elementor might be good for someone like me, who has 0 programming knowledge.
The user allowance makes sense from a hosting point of view. If people make sites that have a large number of concurrent users, using small amounts of data, their resources will get smashed.
So, what about if all those 100,000 users were concurrent? I think if a site on $50 a year hosting was generating that level of interest, it would very quickly move to a more scalable solution. :)
I can understand Elementor's business model, but for me, a Pro user for many years, is simply the opposite of what I'm looking for and my own business model. More reasons to try Gutenberg, Bricks or Oxygen.
hey Paul. always enjoy watching ur videos. Im new to alot of this web stuff. Thought I'd use the Elemtentor cloud based...for easy use/one click set up etc. Trying to promo a video/trialer /website...but 50MB max upload.....so thats sort of killed it at the start. Anyone know any tips? or an alternative, feel free to shout. (tech support say they cant change it). 😉x
This looks like a rush to release situation .. Regarding the admin default user disaster...Surley you can create a new admin user and password and delete the default one ?
Yes, there are ways to handle the default admin user, but users who may not be familiar with WordPress or the basics of good practice and security probably wouldn’t know. I think it’s a silly oversight and something that could have easily been made part of the install wizard.
Who knows? It certainly looks like a competitor to the likes of Wix, Editor X, WebFlow, etc. Is it a good alternative? Well, that's to be seen I think :) And, hello Brazil ;)
I bought the Elementor Cloud for my client and I made a mistake that I couldn't fix so I did a restore to yesterdays date and nothing worked. :-( So far not good at all. Tier 2 is working on it which I hope they can retrieve. It was a full shopping cart site with woocommerce. If I could have installed WPvivid or any other backup I would not have this problem right now.
I skipped Elementor Pro mainly because of all the bloat and poor performance. There's no way that the Elementor Cloud Platform would even remotely make me reconsider. I went for Blocksy and Stackable on quality hosting. Haven't looked back since :)
Hi @@Proverbs31Journey I'm located in Denmark and I'm using a small local hosting company. Probably not useful to you. Go for hosting that provides sufficient php-memory (preferably 1024 MB or more), good cpu ressources (>4 cores) and sufficient diskspace (not to tight, get a few GB more than you need, 4-5 GB for a small-medium site). Google hosting companys with servers in your country/city (maybe like this: "best hosting in Paris, France 2022"). Compare results. Good luck :)
This really is not for me in its current state. Too many limitations and theupgradablity based on "sites" instead of ressources does not work for me. I've been slowly moving away from Elementor and moving into Gutenberg (GeneratePress Premium + GenerateBlocks Pro + a blocks library like Kadence Blocks Pro or Stackable now works great for me. We haven't started a project with Elementor in almost a year at this point...
I can't see the being of real value for anyone except maybe a site owner who wants to have their own site wrapped up in a hosting deal . Anyone who develops multiple sites will need the flexibility of a hosting plan. I can't see any Facebook groups on Elementor or those like yours who have quite a focus on Elementor, that don't have issues about the quality and speedyness of their support. They release this offering and it's already let down by the support, and I can only think that this platform will dilute the already thin support offering. Ps, I want to control which additional plugins I use, not have it dictated to me. I think this is an arrogant approach with them basically saying that those plugins don't work with elementor, it's just as possible that elementor doesn't work with them!
This was simply not thought through to the end, especially points that would support performance were not taken into account.(SEO-Perfomance ) I think Elementor should rather focus on their product and continue to develop it in the right direction. This way only quantity is created and people will get frustrated faster knowing that they will focus on other products as well.
Think about this from a non-techies POV. Sure, you ca go into the DB and change this, E CLoud doesn't provide DB access, so making changes to this requires a few workarounds - so, it's not straightforward or pretty. Besides, this should be handled during setup and not left as the default WP username. :)
I like to have Email domain with my web hosting but Elementor Cloud does not give you any Email domain features, adding further costs to arrange somewhere else.
Elementor cloud is simply not a thing. They need to follow Brizy in developing the platform from the ground up, not just sticking WordPress on a server and making it less useful than hosting elsewhere. There was a clear opportunity to build a closed environment for an advanced and heavily optimised instance of Elementor that had loops, custom post types, e-commerce and more, all natively without the need for plugins or 3rd party tools. Epic fail Elementor (yet again)
@@jd2161 fanboy alert... Try reading the comment again, perhaps it will be a little clearer next time. The post is about "Elementor Cloud", not the page builder
as soon I received the newsletter about this. I rush to see that what they are offering, but it was all disappointment. In general, free elementor is an excellent tool as I am using it for years. I bought elementor pro just once in my lifetime and then didn't renew it after one year. Because it doesn't offer anything special except header and footer builder, which is still not a great thing. You can buy any well-matured WordPress theme and you can have that too. Second Elementor pro is useless for woocommerce as it doesn't offer anything special other than a few more widgets. Nothing else. Which you also have set up yourself. Plus you need to install more premium plugins to make the site according to your design. Again you can buy a premium woocommerce theme and you will set up an E-commerce website in just one go with 100s of designs to choose from. And I don't see any value in any cloud hosting until you have millions of visitors. Especially when you can use CDN. so i don't see any value here.
Why Ellementor if you can do and install a lot but your website will be supper slow. You are limited in your possibilities for other plugins and themes and you have to wait and see if the price of 99 is not suddenly increased to 999. I avoid Ellementor pro to minimize problems with loading speed or other tools I want to use.
To be honest, the thing that frustrates me the most is the strange choices they make as a company. While I can see the benefits of a Cloud based version, I would have preferred it if they had dropped the WordPress aspect. It's not really needed in a Cloud environment like this and I feel they would have been able to develop a more robust offering had WordPress been left out.
Hi Paul, thank you for the overview. There is no way I would ever use an "offering" like this. I don't find the cost benefit to be that compelling. To be honest, the minute that Bricks supports JetEngine, I'm dumping Elementor in a second. I am getting very disgusted with the platform. Years ago, they were a great option....now, it is more of a hassle {my personal opinion}. However, thank you for the analysis. Have a great day.
Sorry but I have seen the same comment so many times I just had to comment. JetEngine is a Elementor only product, Bricks will never be integrated. They share entirely different code base and data storage formats as well. So look for other 3rd party integrations. Checkout Toolset, Pods, Meta Box, Advanced Custom Fields Pro. While Bricks is really great, its still a 1.x product, very buggy and has a ways to go before its ready for production sites, give it another year. But you like many people lean their decision on leaving bloat ridden Elementor to something else based upon JetEngine. I would look at your development needs, requirements and let that better determine you course of action with page/site builders. Dont tie your decision based upon one third party product.
I totally agree, although, it's unlikely that Crocoblock will integrate with another builder (unless perhaps, we all really for it?!). They seem to be on a mission to remove dependence on Elementor and go full native with Gutenterd. I'm surprised Crocoblock haven't made their own page builder actually
I never thought you would be sponsoring Elementor in this decision of theirs - lol. This is just another way of forcing you to use specific products that they only want to offer. Anyway, I am not going to sponsor them the $99 of this product. Am starting to look elsewhere for a page builder now that they wanting to offer Wix / Webflow comparative.
Sponsoring Elementor in this decision? I'm not sure what you mean. This video is demonstrating the platform and providing my initial thoughts (good and bad) on their offering.
@@WPTuts , what I meant by sponsoring is that you have handed over $99 of your own money to make use of this product or are they offering it free to Agency's?
What I can say is that a year after this video, extra packages have been added for more websites, but as hosting remains hugely expensive $120-180 a year for 1 website, $600-720 a year for 10 websites. Unnecessarily expensive, elementror is getting worse and worse, it is throwing out these useless things instead of improving its site builder which unfortunately I must say is lagging behind others.
When you look at Elementor AS A WHOLE.. every time they do something new it ALWAYS feels like it is "experimental"! I'm beginning to feel like this company and this tool, both it's free and pro version is one big beta version that some people use free and paid for version. The on by default experiments functionality in the pro version, proves that. NOTHING experimental should be on by default, hell, none of it should even be included in the install UNTIL the user puts it there themselves. As far as their "cloud" hosted setup, I wouldn't touch it even if it was free! Just by you showing the dashboard, limitation on plugins, etc. ONCE AGAIN, brings me back to them "trying" aka "experimenting" aka "beta testing" with people who are PAYING for Elementor.
That’s been our thoughts, too. The admin user made me wince but there are so many not quite there elements and, as you say, feels like a constant beta. Back when I managed Linux web servers, we used Debian because of its rigid policy to only allow the stable version to be truly tested, even if it did lack the latest tech. Elementor seems driven by consumer demand to the point of taking big risks to make that happen. As we get bigger clients we’ve become increasingly nervous of using Elementor (WordPress in general to be fair)
@@webceterauk Your name sounds very very familiar in relationship to some code that solved an issue I had some time ago! For some reason I'm thinking it was server related? Or maybe you solved an issue for someone else and it worked for me also.. stackoverflow maybe.
Thanks for the video but for me it is better to have more control over your website and not to be limited to what Elementor management think is ok ... You put a lot of work and money into building your website and to be locked into a closed system like this is NOT the best option - my experience with Elementor has not 🚫 been so good in the past so I will most definitely not be joining anything of Elementor and do not recommend people to subscribe... there are better options available taking all things into consideration... Please understand I am not trying to trash Elementor cause is not a bad product but overall Elementor has Elementor in mind and not what their clients want or need... test out other ways first to build your website cause Elementor is a high maintenance hungry beast that you must feed every year...
I bet whenever Elementor does a release they rush to your channel straight after lol 😂
I think most of them rushed to my Facebook group. The rate they’ve signed up yesterday and today was surprising. 🤣
Thank you so much for your insightful video! I’m a part of the Elementor Cloud product team. You mentioned woocomerce and I couldn’t understand why you think it’s not supported. There are no limitations as far as I’m aware of. Thanks again for the video, many of the things you mentioned are already in the backlog.
Hey Roy, thank you for hoping into the conversation.
My WooCommerce comment was based on a conversation with one of your colleagues in the influencer marketing dept and during the conversation last week, it was highlighted that WooCommerce wasn't fully supported. If that's not the case, that's great to hear. :)
@@WPTuts it is the case we fully support WooCommerce. Thanks!
@@roybanon7910 awesome! Thank you for the clarification. :)
Hi Ray, I use elementor pro on my site in the cloud, but was wondering if and when a staging option would be available, in case of rebuilding a site from the scratch and testing it without disturbing the current site. I wish something like WPvivid staging could be used to make a duplicate of the site and do edits before going live. Also, when I transferred my site from my previous hosting I had a lot of issues with the elementor kit not installing my site correctly in elementor cloud. I had Elementor Pro in my previous hosting and exported it using the kit function. But it did not move my files as expected. I ended up re-building all the pages all over again. On the other hand, building a new site in the cloud on a fresh install works flawlessly and it is pretty fast too.
Ownership of your site is very important. If I or one of my clients want to move off the Elementor Cloud, can I migrate it? And if so how much "junk" related to the Elementor Cloud will I have to clear off? Edited to say I didn't see all the videos when I posted, after posting I see where they will allow you to create a full backup (and migrate from it). While the average user of Elementor might not use FTP, it would be nice to have it for many reasons. It can come in handy.
Informative, thanks. I see this as a good alternative to wix etc. if you're looking to set up a single site, aren't interested in managing any back-end config or coding, but want to go further than the 'site in a box' options. I've just set up a site for a community organization - hosting, domain, elementor pro, etc. costs are all separate (dealing with legacy stuff, don't ask....). One stop shop for infrastructure and site hosting would have made sense for them if this was a brand new situation. Bottom line - before contributors here criticize this offering as not being up to premium performance standards, or not meeting their multi-site/multi-client, full-featured requirements, please consider that this is an initial offering. Glitches and gaps should be addressed over time. And, if it doesn't fit your requirements, then just stick with regular hosting models for now and see how this matures.
Completely agree with your comments about hosting companies putting visitor and bandwidth limitations on a package. It makes no sense to me.
Right? It's a totally pointless limitation - pick one or the other.
Do you have an update to this service? It boggles my mind that the performance isn't any better than shared hosting stats. Surely google cloud platform has to be better than that?
If I already have a wordpress site, do i need the elemntor cloud site? All I need is the pro plugins.
I think it was not quite ready for release yet. I've purchased it and am trying to build a site.It seems slow and I am getting error messages. I'm hopeful that they will improve it and I can get some value. In this state it's not that usable and I am going back to self hosting.
Thanks! Very informative and answers some questions I had about the services.
Thanks for the video, have you tried webflow?
hello does the builder comes with mobile app?
Thanks as always for sharing with us buddy.
I am disappointed to see that there support does not seem to have improved, I also agree that including alpha/beta options is asking for trouble.
On the outside it looks like interesting attempt for a first offering, however I would rather see them spending the time that has gone into developing and setting this up, by perhaps dealing with some of the bugs, or completing some of the experiments and making them part of the core product.
Have they made a list of the plugins that are not currently working with the cloud platform publicly available?
Thanks Paul always well though out
Prefer to use the Plugins that I think work. Plus could Elementor focus on their prime Product unless the cloud platform is a partner
That shirt is FLY, Paul. Love it! Oh, and thanks for the video! Haha.
Glad you like it!
As they are hosting on GCP, not much point for me. I host on GCP and prefer theme/plugin control.
Thanks for another great review!
I bought Oxygen for a lifetime use but it's kind of complicated for me. I ran into a problem where I have recent posts and pages 1-3, but no matter which page I click, it only shows page 1 (with a page 2 or 3 URL). I asked on Oxygen's facebook support and Discord but haven't gotten any responses. In general it feels like Oxygen users may need some coding knowledge whereas Elementor might be good for someone like me, who has 0 programming knowledge.
Great job Paul. Thanks for doing this.
Paul, curious what you think about the new Figma CMS.
The user allowance makes sense from a hosting point of view. If people make sites that have a large number of concurrent users, using small amounts of data, their resources will get smashed.
So, what about if all those 100,000 users were concurrent? I think if a site on $50 a year hosting was generating that level of interest, it would very quickly move to a more scalable solution. :)
@@WPTuts The point is you need a ceiling on both to be able to manage the resource requirements.
I can understand Elementor's business model, but for me, a Pro user for many years, is simply the opposite of what I'm looking for and my own business model. More reasons to try Gutenberg, Bricks or Oxygen.
hey Paul. always enjoy watching ur videos. Im new to alot of this web stuff. Thought I'd use the Elemtentor cloud based...for easy use/one click set up etc.
Trying to promo a video/trialer /website...but 50MB max upload.....so thats sort of killed it at the start.
Anyone know any tips? or an alternative, feel free to shout. (tech support say they cant change it). 😉x
If you started to get over 100k visitors, then is it easy to cancel this offer and switch to a better more expensive hosting plan?
Nope! Right now, Elementor Cloud only offers a single plan.
@@WPTuts Thank you.
Thank you so much for this informative review!
Great review!
This looks like a rush to release situation .. Regarding the admin default user disaster...Surley you can create a new admin user and password and delete the default one ?
Yes, there are ways to handle the default admin user, but users who may not be familiar with WordPress or the basics of good practice and security probably wouldn’t know.
I think it’s a silly oversight and something that could have easily been made part of the install wizard.
Will we have a direct competitor to WIX in the future? I see your videos from Brazil.
Who knows? It certainly looks like a competitor to the likes of Wix, Editor X, WebFlow, etc.
Is it a good alternative? Well, that's to be seen I think :)
And, hello Brazil ;)
I bought the Elementor Cloud for my client and I made a mistake that I couldn't fix so I did a restore to yesterdays date and nothing worked. :-( So far not good at all. Tier 2 is working on it which I hope they can retrieve. It was a full shopping cart site with woocommerce. If I could have installed WPvivid or any other backup I would not have this problem right now.
Ouch! I hope you can get everything back up and running ASAP Bob!
I skipped Elementor Pro mainly because of all the bloat and poor performance. There's no way that the Elementor Cloud Platform would even remotely make me reconsider. I went for Blocksy and Stackable on quality hosting. Haven't looked back since :)
An awesome combination and one I've built my own site around. :)
If you don’t mind me asking, what hosting do you use?
Hi @@Proverbs31Journey
I'm located in Denmark and I'm using a small local hosting company. Probably not useful to you. Go for hosting that provides sufficient php-memory (preferably 1024 MB or more), good cpu ressources (>4 cores) and sufficient diskspace (not to tight, get a few GB more than you need, 4-5 GB for a small-medium site). Google hosting companys with servers in your country/city (maybe like this: "best hosting in Paris, France 2022"). Compare results.
Good luck :)
This really is not for me in its current state. Too many limitations and theupgradablity based on "sites" instead of ressources does not work for me.
I've been slowly moving away from Elementor and moving into Gutenberg (GeneratePress Premium + GenerateBlocks Pro + a blocks library like Kadence Blocks Pro or Stackable now works great for me. We haven't started a project with Elementor in almost a year at this point...
I can't see the being of real value for anyone except maybe a site owner who wants to have their own site wrapped up in a hosting deal . Anyone who develops multiple sites will need the flexibility of a hosting plan.
I can't see any Facebook groups on Elementor or those like yours who have quite a focus on Elementor, that don't have issues about the quality and speedyness of their support. They release this offering and it's already let down by the support, and I can only think that this platform will dilute the already thin support offering.
Ps, I want to control which additional plugins I use, not have it dictated to me. I think this is an arrogant approach with them basically saying that those plugins don't work with elementor, it's just as possible that elementor doesn't work with them!
This was simply not thought through to the end, especially points that would support performance were not taken into account.(SEO-Perfomance ) I think Elementor should rather focus on their product and continue to develop it in the right direction. This way only quantity is created and people will get frustrated faster knowing that they will focus on other products as well.
very helpful
Username on Wordpress cannot be change in a normal wordpress installation, unless you hardcoded that in the DB
Think about this from a non-techies POV. Sure, you ca go into the DB and change this, E CLoud doesn't provide DB access, so making changes to this requires a few workarounds - so, it's not straightforward or pretty. Besides, this should be handled during setup and not left as the default WP username. :)
I'm in Canada and my Data Center is in Belgium.
I like to have Email domain with my web hosting but Elementor Cloud does not give you any Email domain features, adding further costs to arrange somewhere else.
Elementor cloud is simply not a thing. They need to follow Brizy in developing the platform from the ground up, not just sticking WordPress on a server and making it less useful than hosting elsewhere.
There was a clear opportunity to build a closed environment for an advanced and heavily optimised instance of Elementor that had loops, custom post types, e-commerce and more, all natively without the need for plugins or 3rd party tools.
Epic fail Elementor (yet again)
You know.... You're free to create your own site builder. Link it here when you're done
@@jd2161 fanboy alert... Try reading the comment again, perhaps it will be a little clearer next time. The post is about "Elementor Cloud", not the page builder
Fair enough. Some good feedback too 👍
as soon I received the newsletter about this. I rush to see that what they are offering, but it was all disappointment. In general, free elementor is an excellent tool as I am using it for years. I bought elementor pro just once in my lifetime and then didn't renew it after one year. Because it doesn't offer anything special except header and footer builder, which is still not a great thing. You can buy any well-matured WordPress theme and you can have that too. Second Elementor pro is useless for woocommerce as it doesn't offer anything special other than a few more widgets. Nothing else. Which you also have set up yourself. Plus you need to install more premium plugins to make the site according to your design. Again you can buy a premium woocommerce theme and you will set up an E-commerce website in just one go with 100s of designs to choose from. And I don't see any value in any cloud hosting until you have millions of visitors. Especially when you can use CDN. so i don't see any value here.
Why Ellementor if you can do and install a lot but your website will be supper slow. You are limited in your possibilities for other plugins and themes and you have to wait and see if the price of 99 is not suddenly increased to 999. I avoid Ellementor pro to minimize problems with loading speed or other tools I want to use.
I get the feeling you've had it with Elementor?
To be honest, the thing that frustrates me the most is the strange choices they make as a company. While I can see the benefits of a Cloud based version, I would have preferred it if they had dropped the WordPress aspect. It's not really needed in a Cloud environment like this and I feel they would have been able to develop a more robust offering had WordPress been left out.
Hi Paul, thank you for the overview. There is no way I would ever use an "offering" like this. I don't find the cost benefit to be that compelling. To be honest, the minute that Bricks supports JetEngine, I'm dumping Elementor in a second. I am getting very disgusted with the platform. Years ago, they were a great option....now, it is more of a hassle {my personal opinion}. However, thank you for the analysis. Have a great day.
Sorry but I have seen the same comment so many times I just had to comment. JetEngine is a Elementor only product, Bricks will never be integrated. They share entirely different code base and data storage formats as well. So look for other 3rd party integrations. Checkout Toolset, Pods, Meta Box, Advanced Custom Fields Pro. While Bricks is really great, its still a 1.x product, very buggy and has a ways to go before its ready for production sites, give it another year. But you like many people lean their decision on leaving bloat ridden Elementor to something else based upon JetEngine. I would look at your development needs, requirements and let that better determine you course of action with page/site builders. Dont tie your decision based upon one third party product.
I totally agree, although, it's unlikely that Crocoblock will integrate with another builder (unless perhaps, we all really for it?!). They seem to be on a mission to remove dependence on Elementor and go full native with Gutenterd.
I'm surprised Crocoblock haven't made their own page builder actually
What is this squarespace
Hello sir 💗😁
How to make my account page for mobile layout like a professional Android using elementor please make a video and guide me...☺️
Optimizer plugins arent gonna do anything to fix the server response time
Very true!
At first I thought wow pro version and hosting for 100 bucks?... then I had this gut feeling telling me NO stay away from this.
They must have changed it because on their page I see only the 100K visitor limit, not a bandwidth limit too
ok, found out this was old info when you mentioned the price of 50, that was the early bird price, its 99 now
I'll end up wanting 2 websites eventually so maybe I should avoid this plan.
2.4s TTFB?? Oh dear
You don't have a video on WP 5.9....
It's already been covered pretty heavily by other creators on youtube, so I didn't really see the need for me to reinvent the wheel :)
But if you have a multi site elementor license it’s expensive - good report - thank you - too many negatives
Seems expensive compared to Brizy Cloud!
I never thought you would be sponsoring Elementor in this decision of theirs - lol. This is just another way of forcing you to use specific products that they only want to offer. Anyway, I am not going to sponsor them the $99 of this product. Am starting to look elsewhere for a page builder now that they wanting to offer Wix / Webflow comparative.
Sponsoring Elementor in this decision? I'm not sure what you mean. This video is demonstrating the platform and providing my initial thoughts (good and bad) on their offering.
@@WPTuts , what I meant by sponsoring is that you have handed over $99 of your own money to make use of this product or are they offering it free to Agency's?
@@christopherwells7295 no, it’s a paid for device regardless of what license you may have for the EPro WP plug-in.
What I can say is that a year after this video, extra packages have been added for more websites, but as hosting remains hugely expensive $120-180 a year for 1 website, $600-720 a year for 10 websites. Unnecessarily expensive, elementror is getting worse and worse, it is throwing out these useless things instead of improving its site builder which unfortunately I must say is lagging behind others.
It certainly wouldn't be my first choice - I'm not a fan of having my site tools AND hosting tied together along with other limitations.
Bandwidth is more important. That's why I left WPEngine.
When you look at Elementor AS A WHOLE.. every time they do something new it ALWAYS feels like it is "experimental"! I'm beginning to feel like this company and this tool, both it's free and pro version is one big beta version that some people use free and paid for version.
The on by default experiments functionality in the pro version, proves that. NOTHING experimental should be on by default, hell, none of it should even be included in the install UNTIL the user puts it there themselves.
As far as their "cloud" hosted setup, I wouldn't touch it even if it was free! Just by you showing the dashboard, limitation on plugins, etc. ONCE AGAIN, brings me back to them "trying" aka "experimenting" aka "beta testing" with people who are PAYING for Elementor.
That’s been our thoughts, too. The admin user made me wince but there are so many not quite there elements and, as you say, feels like a constant beta.
Back when I managed Linux web servers, we used Debian because of its rigid policy to only allow the stable version to be truly tested, even if it did lack the latest tech.
Elementor seems driven by consumer demand to the point of taking big risks to make that happen. As we get bigger clients we’ve become increasingly nervous of using Elementor (WordPress in general to be fair)
@@webceterauk Your name sounds very very familiar in relationship to some code that solved an issue I had some time ago! For some reason I'm thinking it was server related? Or maybe you solved an issue for someone else and it worked for me also.. stackoverflow maybe.
Totally agree. Godaddy has been rolling out "Pro" management features but they are not charging while experimenting.
2.3s response time is like 💩. Don't waste your money people.
Thanks for the video but for me it is better to have more control over your website and not to be limited to what Elementor management think is ok ... You put a lot of work and money into building your website and to be locked into a closed system like this is NOT the best option - my experience with Elementor has not 🚫 been so good in the past so I will most definitely not be joining anything of Elementor and do not recommend people to subscribe... there are better options available taking all things into consideration... Please understand I am not trying to trash Elementor cause is not a bad product but overall Elementor has Elementor in mind and not what their clients want or need... test out other ways first to build your website cause Elementor is a high maintenance hungry beast that you must feed every year...
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This is a messy solution.
Great review 👍