The Absence of Takahashi in YuGiOh
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- These are all my gripes surrounding YuGiOh and how people have been thinking about it all these years.
Working title for this video was: "YuGiOh is Good You're Wrong Shut Up," but that sounded too childish.
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Would u mind if I send you some fan art about your story pitch?
Technically in Yu-Gi-Oh! VRAINS there is no tournament
It’s funny how you complain about the fate of the world, but you use the mechanic in your story
@@insanemakaioshin the point was it's an afterthought just like with Marik's threat to Atem's memories
@@MegaMachiOnline oh!
Takahashi's artsytle is legendary
mohamed elhedi issa trading card gamer facts
His art style is clearly my most favorite, look at the villains (Yami Bakura for example) you can see the evil and madness in his facial expression.
Hair game always on-point
Legendarily bad
@@orlandobittencourt5475 WHAT!!!??!? bro are you blind or something
This hurts a little after today news... YuGiOh was and still is a very important part of my life, and will always be. RIP Takahashi
Same bro I always loved yugioh since highshool. I didn't expected the news
I came to this video after finding out his death was (thankfully) not a suicide, but that he died trying to save other people's lives - deep respect for this great man and artist! RIP
@@Nero_Karel he really did enact the messages he promoted in yugioh...he truly is the TRUE KING OF GAMES, nobody can replace him or take that way from him.
@@Nero_Karel Takahashi gave us a lesson even in his finals moments. If you can save a life, save it
And now Kazuki Takahashi has passed away... the Yu-Gi-Oh world will forever miss his presence.
Now he is absent forever.
RIP Kazuki Takahashi
I honestly love this perspective. Meme culture doesn't give Yu-Gi-Oh enough credit.
You need to do more research
Meme is not culture it is the nasty product of a 9yo internet generation with parents who are barely older than their own kids. This is a desaster
To be fair, his example was pretty much the first season of Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal.
Kaito is killing people and preventing Astral from regaining his memory, but we find out he's doing so to save his brother Haruto from a disease. We then find out Haruto's disease comes from an alien world and over time corrupts him. Kaito's father is then possessed by Vector and Shark, Kaito, and Yuma have to team up to remove Vector from Kaito's father.
@@greenblood2313 Ok boomer
I agree
9:52 "His wife is actually dying"
4Kids: make that the shadowrealm
She is in the process of packing her bags to go to the shadow realm and the uncle needs the money to... get her to not?
Holy f FINALLY someone GETS what "Yu-Gi-Oh!" is about! Everyone just loves to bash on it without even looking up the facts..
To be fair... his example was pretty much the first season of Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal.
Kaito is killing people and preventing Astral from regaining his memory, but we find out he's doing so to save his brother Haruto from a disease. We then find out Haruto's disease comes from an alien world and over time corrupts him. Kaito's father is then possessed by Vector and Shark, Kaito, and Yuma have to team up to remove Vector from Kaito's father.
@Matty Zee we had 2 movies going back to yugi.
Who bashes Yu-Gi-Oh ? They must look edgy.
Becuse, just like dragonball, people tend to take the abridged jokes literally as if they were facts in the show. When they were supposed to be meta jokes. People just think the abridged series is the series.
Christ you wrote pretty decent season pitch there. I’d love an expanded video on that. But you forgot one very important part of any new Yu-gi-oh series. The new random summoning mechanic/monster type that no one really wanted.
You sir have a grand point I didn't understand why they added that in the series thank you and have a wonderful day
kandace haith yeah, I know it’s just to sell even more cards. It’s not always bad. Like with synchro and Xyz you could pretty much ignore it if you want to and there’d be no difference. The same pretty much with pendulum. The problem is when the edition radically changes the game and makes other decks useless if you don’t use the new mechanic. Looking at you link summoning. 10 bucks says the some how change the board again or change it to make link summoning less relevant like they did with Pendulum.
@@theruoc147 I agree there was nothing wrong with the original plan of the card game. Is it just me or in this age of reboot the changes that people make feel completely useless? Idk what's more distracting to me the technology within the game , the lack of story constantly being about the end of the world, or the fact that the new cards are odd. For example there's now four different dark magician girls.
I'm hoping for more of them in the future. They're really good at shaking up the metagame
God i hate pendulum and link
Konami: write that down! Write that down!
ryuukishi reinana Naaah. Who needs an interesting story when your marking the money??
@@TheArchive777 interesting stories sell... except that a larger part of the merchandise group is dummer, so they sell more
101 stealing ideas😂
VixXstazosJOB “interesting stories sell” thats why pokemon is like the most profitable anime ever thats had the same story for the past 20 years
Also Konami: ...actually, nah.
Why is this in my feed now R.I.P The Legend Kazuki Takahashi.
Changed so many lives with a simple card game you will be so greatly missed 😭😭😭
Vrains spoiler: It's the only ygo anime without a tournament arc
Which I honestly wish it had one. Especially when it was introducing Aoi and Go as the top duelists. We never really got to see them as the top duelists, it was just stated. I would have loved a tournament where Yusaku wasn’t in it, just watching, and we get to the final two being blue angel and Go. Maybe the duel gets interrupted by the Hanoi.
@@44dav44 I don't know how I'd feel about a tournament arc in Vrains. Maybe it would work if they do it like Battle City, give Yusaku a reason to enter, link it to his goal also give Aoi, Go, Revolver and the others personal reasons as well.
The James Show I have a funny felling the way Vrains ended it’ll have a sequal. So mabey link Vrains will host a tournament and play maker finds clues that ai and the other ignis are still around but playmaker has to duel and climb the rounds to find the awnsers
The James Show that’s why I didn’t mean for it to be an arc. Just a few episodes to introduce Aoi as Blue angel and Go. I wouldn’t even have yusaku in the tournament since there shouldn’t be a reason for him to join one. It would solely be there to intro BA and Go as the top duelists in the Vrains.
Vrains is also the only ygo anime to not use any kind of magic.
Sounds like the newer Yugioh series lacks Takahashi's " Heart of the Cards" with the sheer lack of lore, mystery and amazement of the subject surrounding the characters.
It does have better duels and characters. And that's all i need
The BS over better Duels and characters... I'll have Better duels and characters because AI is a babychild :'(... *Vrains*
@@matheusaragao7640 "better characters" Yeah well that's just like your opinion man
@@matheusaragao7640 thats your opinion
Ending was still btr than arc v tho
I’ve always been “that guy” who complains about differences from the manga. Kaiba‘s role in the TV adaptation was expanded so much that he’s basically become the heart and soul of the franchise when he was originally supposed to be the exact opposite.
Also does anyone else ever feel like Joey’s character in the manga was partly about reducing his violent tendencies?! Throughout the early seasons he was pretty much a degenerate, but after getting more into card games he becomes like... an almost functional member of society. Card games were like REHAB for Joey, which was the whole reason his goal of becoming a “stronger duelist” in battle city actually meant something. But that’s all lost in the anime because he’s nowhere near as tough. Kaiba is portrayed as being like 2-feet taller than him (and more buff than he ever was in the manga), and Joey specifically gets manhandled by Bandit Keith in the anime - whom he actual beat to a pulp at one point in the manga.
There’s also the simple detail that Yami Yugi was never once actually taller than Yugi in the manga... which is kinda mind-fucky if you’re only used to the anime version.
I could go on and on about how the original manga provides answers for so many of the show’s widely accepted inconsistencies... but the point is these changes were more than simply adapting to a new medium, they changed the fundamental themes of the story.
I know in the manga he seems taller because Yugi is usually slouching while Yami Yugi is more confident and standing with a straight backed posture.
Yami is only drawn taller so the viewer can differentiate. The characters don't notice a size difference.
And for Kaiba the Manga tells us repeatedly that he is Yugis equal but he only wins against fodder.
While the anime gives him more to do and he has actual wins against powerful duelist.
Kazuki Takahashi "King of Games" is send to the graveyard and activate the teardrop effects.
So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish. May the heart of the cards continue to guide us all.
Your idea of YuGiOh series is something I personally wanted to see in the franchise. Especially cause I miss supernatural aspects of the show and I would wish that duels was use more creatively instead of as a substitute of punching.
To be fair, his example was pretty much the first season of Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal.
Kaito is killing people and preventing Astral from regaining his memory, but we find out he's doing so to save his brother Haruto from a disease. We then find out Haruto's disease comes from an alien world and over time corrupts him. Kaito's father is then possessed by Vector and Shark, Kaito, and Yuma have to team up to remove Vector from Kaito's father.
@@Medbread but the way the stories are handled, and presented! That's!
"is there a way to make a story without a tournament on it?"
Yes it's called yugioh Vrains
Out of the 9 battle spirits anime series 4 don't have tournaments in them at all
As for the other 5:
2 are just one long tournament arc with little to no consequences at all
And the other 3 have very short-lived tournament arcs
thats why its shit
And Vrains is bad
Out of the 4 battle spirits anime that have no tournament arcs in them, 1 is considered the best entry in the franchise
I did enjoy the breath of fresh air, but VRAINS unfortunately did it really blandly. :/
I've got 2 aspects I want to talk about
1) The conflict over the house should be an "Episode 0" event, happening before the story begins and should be between the adults, with Protag-kun caught in the middle. This detaches the "Family Drama" conflict from the "Need Money" conflict, letting the story start simple and become more complex as more context is given.
Personally, I would give the aunt a real, terminal illness (or accident) and have the uncle willingly work with the shady organization to try to treat it. The aunt would take to the treatment better than they expected the first of whatever they were trying to make. She might not even remember her family after "awakening" and this could be why she has no issue confronting Protag-kun.
2) You seeming to be ignoring examples of what you are asking for. Zexal is the only season that didn't start with a personal goal.
GX is less conflict and more school life until "Dark Forces" become part of the story (only watched some of the first season and season 3).
5D starts as a "Wronged by someone I trusted" story like what you brought up. The "Save the World" aspect was gradually introduced as time when on.
Arc-V starts with Protag-kun trying to become an entertainer, drip feeding hints of a larger plot until all hell breaks loose.
Vrains doesn't event have a tournament and the first season is a story of revenge
The dark forces are the focal point of GX S4, it's pretty good. Spoilers:
Jaden s now an actually serious protagonist thanks to being merged with Yubel, the reality-breaking events of Seasons 1-3 take a heavy toll in the area around Duel Academy allowing the "Darkness" (basically the cosmic embodiment of one part Apathy, another part Death, and another part Depression) to take root in this dimension. Jaden/Yubel's arc in the season is one of finding balance between enjoying the game (like Seasons 1-2) and also accepting the consequences of your actions (Season 3), while the other cast are all wrapping up their minor arcs and getting ready to move on thanks to their individual episodes, they also help Jaden/Yubel stop being such a buzzkill and regain his faith in humanity and in himself.
That lightheartedness and "good ole days" character wrap ups is cut short though due to the emissaries of Darkness convincing people to essentially allow themselves to be disintegrated and said emissaries tricking duelists into dueling, and then through psychological manipulation/torture, losing - thus dying and getting absorbed into Darkness Shadow Games style. It eventually gets to the point where there are several scenes where duelists within sections of the island and streets of Domino City get disintegrated, and the list of names of various DM, Season 0, and Manga exclusive characters (Miho, Ushio, and Seto Kaiba being among them) just vanish one by one. Eventually, everyone in the world is dead except Jaden/Yubel where he must battle Darkness lest Darkness swallow him too. Aaaaand he does. Then Atem thanks him for bringing everyone back to life (including Yugi) by sending him back through time long enough for Jaden/Yubel to duel Yugi/Atem in the finale.
*accidentally creates a better story than every YGO plot after 5Ds*
Yeah. Every bad Yu-Gi-Oh arc was written by that guy
@ULGROTHA He's even responsible for ruining Jack and Carly in 5ds
Yo arc v was amazing the story is phenomenal but they ran out of budget at the end so they ended it fastly could've been a masterpiece
@@mohamedelhediissa289 sounds like VRAINS
@@godot8694 yup but vrains's case was worse and it didn't had the arc v potential
Rest in peace, Legend
the thing that makes sense about the whole “card games being more than a nerdy sport” is the whole magical concept. the card games aren’t just cards: it was basically a wizard fight using spirit monsters. Yugi vs Marik and vs Bakura wasn’t just two dudes playing cards, it was the ghost of an ancient Egyptian Pharaoh trying to get his spirit to rest, overcoming his enemies, and the card game represents the magical wizard fights or whatever. thus, the narrative uses card games as more than just card games.
“Let’s be real, it’s straight up gambling.”
-Negative Legend
YGO was always about gambling even before card games started. for example, like the bomb guessing game in amusement park.
To be fair, a card game series where the main conflict is literally over an illegal gambling subculture surrounding the game would be pretty rad.
Why do these duels matter? Because actual money is on the line. Where does the danger come from? The fact that some of these gamblers are hardened criminals, who don't care about things like Fair Play or Not Hurting Children.
Like, make it a Gambling Anime, except with a trading card game rather than games like Poker or whatnot. So long as people are willing to bet money on the outcome, serious people will take it seriously.
I think in GX the mystery didnt really go about till season 2 with Sartorius and Neo Spacians which depicted a cult in an interesting way. Then Seasom 3 with Yubel and the Supreme King which did have some interesting duels and character decks.
Shinkai Atusya with season 2 the usual occult motif that yugioh is know for returns, you know satorius with his tarot readings etc. then season 3 it gets darker like people literally turning to zombies. Then with the last season, the final antagonist reveals a prophecy that world would end and domino city’s destruction will be at hand, which satorius tarot cards reveal that prophesy two seasons earlier. Btw that destruction actually takes place during the 5ds era.
And that's what makes yugioh cool,unlike the newer series that vaguely resembles the older ones
I honestly loved GX's more casual tone before the Shadow Rider's arch. Something nice about the duels just being more grounded.
GX was my favorite. I love the character development, personalities, and the stakes. I found it to be a great balance of humor and drama.
However, I acknowledge that the plots are disjointed a bit and all over the place.
5Ds is probably the best organized series, even though the whole motorcycle and post-apocalyptic world thing seems to be a deliberate rip-off of Akira. Also the riding duel thing is stupid.
Bruh,Turbo duels WERE THE PINNACLE OF YUGIOH DUELS
Love the sarcasm in saying "the fate of the world rests in the hands of a children's card game"
but that is what the show sadly became...more or less...with magic...it started out as an actual heartfelt series then it became duel monsters...and it went from dark cool sadistic to kid friendly marketing shell ...with a hint of relatability likable characters and storylines but a lot of nonsense too
4:43 the whole mysticism of the dragons was a lot better utilized in the 5Ds anime
yeah but not really in the first arc. I don't know how it was dubbed in the english/German version but yeah the 5Ds was kinda good storywise (if you cut the "cardgames on motocycles")
@@Zanji1234 the card game on motorcycle is good. That said I watched in Japanese that doesn't suffer from unnecessary changes.
Remember when the big bad in 5DS were literally a ygo version of Illuminati then after some real life controversy with a voice actress in a real life (sex pain) cult
They changed them to time travelers Z-one etc 😂
@@alfonsopayan09 I mean in my opinion, Z-ONE was very good for a YGO final antagonist
It was thrown out of the window when Dragon Black Cock was released because Konami wanted more money to milk from the current popular Blackwing Deck that is highly not associated with the real 5 Signer dragons.
My dude literally wrote a better Yugioh series in 10 minutes than Konami wrote in 6 years
Hm...I honestly still think Arc-V is a pretty good series. It has flaws, like a pretty stale middle during the synchro dimension arc, and an ending, that leaves a pretty bittersweet taste with a bunch of plotpoints not fully resolved, but I still really like it. I cant comment on Vrains since I only watched a couple episodes and I have a certain nostalgia for Zexal since I watched it as a teen...still not the best series overall, but its not as bad as some people say in my opinion.
As for the older shows...I remember liking GX but not to a massive extent, 5ds was good, but the setting wasnt quite my thing and as for the original Yugioh...it has its charm, for sure, but at the end of the day its not really my thing. Iconic as it is, to me, the characters just arent as interesting as they could be. All of that is just my opinion though XD.
It's amazing what you can do when you have, like, artistic goals beyond just making the Product look cool.
Konami doesn't make the story for the anime. The stories are made by the anime studios. Konami only provides resources (like card mechanics and monster mechanics) and restrictions (basically, get a sinopsis for the hole show and approve it or not, and if approved say if you want certain elements to take more front stage).
Konami is basically a client for the anime studio.
@@sothe0539I'm a year late, but could you elaborate on the part about DM characters? I thought Takahashi's character settings and development lacked logic and probability, but what do you think makes them less interesting?
'Yugioh is a soapopera about playing cards' ,is all the guy's been trick king for your time in this AMV.
The famous line "Believe in the heart of the cards" and "power of friendship" was only used one time in the manga during Kaiba's final duel with Yugi.
Yugi uses a vatiation of "power of friendship" against Pegasus, when the guys cover the Black Luster Soldier's card.
That doesn’t mean that it wasn’t a major theme in the series
This hits different today
His legacy will live on, rest in peace!!
this video hits differently now
You look like a character out of Detrioit : Become Human
ITT we roast OP
Hes got a compelling kind of face for high fashion runways. I don't know many models but Rila Fukushima comes to mind as a close vibe.
damn...
RIP Takahashi (1961-2022)
Hopefully this bullshit will now start to fade off of first result when looking up the goat himself, Rest in piece Kazuki Takahashi.
RIP Kazuki Takahashi.
4:56 I'd argue for GX it was more than just an afterthought, especially when they get into the arcs with Yubel, the Supreme King/Haou, Darkness, heck the entire arc where they in the other dimension searching for Johan/Jesse reminded me alot of the Millinieum world part of the original series.
"Now here is what happens next..."
*Ad starts*
Ok, that makes sense.
lmfao I have adblock on but lmao u rite
I think it's pretty clear that Takahashi is pursuing a personal project that's near and dear to his heart. It's pretty clear that he wanted Zexal to be his second magnum opus, but didn't get the creative freedom he wanted. Most of Takahashi's recent work looks a lot like the scenery from Zexal and focuses on the themes of "hope and the future".
I really disagree with what you said about Yuma. I think he perfectly exemplifies a character with personal goals. In Zexal, Astral wants to regain his memories and Yuma just wants to get some respect as a duelist. Sure, there are evil forces that threaten the world, but Yuma is mainly involved to help astral and his other friends who are directly involved. It's such an underrated series and it's the only version of Yugioh since the original to have that classic Kazuki Takahashi feel.
I would love to sit down with the guy and talk to him. He's my idol as an artist and writer.
same i would also like to meet takahashi one day, as he has been one of my main inspirations as an artist since i was much younger and striving to be in the industry, i would like to thank him for helping me find that drive. anyway do you have anywhere where you post your work? i would like to see. have a nice day! ;3
I totally agree with you about Zexal being the only series since the original to feel like Takahashi's work (in my mind, to "feel like Yugioh"). I've thought that ever since the original Zexal run 5+ years ago, but never seen anyone verbalize it.
Thanks for your thoughtful comment!
Thank god this comment is as far up as it is, yuma definitely isn’t that plain
i think the biggest thing that shot Zexal in the foot was Yuma's stupid hair.
yes, all of the protagonists have stupid hair, but i feel the others had a more appealing factor to them. In general I feel like the 'crazy hair styles' of characters in general started to get a little too wild with Zexal, and that may have contributed to it being treated like the black sheep of the franchise.
Negative Legend: *Gives a great pitch for a Yu-Gi-Oh series*
Konami: _Yu-Gi-Oh Sevens_
R.I.P The Supreme King of Games
“Sorry for the bad artwork.”
Boy, that dad might’ve looked super rusty, but that uncle??? THAT UNCLE!? He was HOT. 👀👀👀🔥🔥🔥
It's like Yusei,but...HOOOO BOOOY
Lmaoooo stop you're reviving 2008 YGO! UA-cam culture
Not exactly as hot as Bandit Bakura but ok
I believe 5D needed more appreciation here, the story is far more mature then the other season even able to compete with the original season of Yugioh from my opinion.
I mean its more basic mature, but it is as dark as any other series, basic mature stuff doesn’t really make it much better.
It wasnt better, is just what it is.
That's true but that all could have been done with the game at all. The example he's giving here specifically requires the game of Duel Monsters to work but 5Ds isn't like that. It's still a great series, especially if you watch the Japanese version, but it feels like the characters only solve their problems with dueling because the script needs them to. The original series wasn't like that nor was the first half of Arc-V.
Its teally good cyberpunk. Yeah.
mhm but even though it's my I feel like it wouldn't hurt if Yusei lost a little more because from my memory he only lost in a flashback like I get he and the entire main cast are amazing duelists like Jack was literally the champion but maybe in the earlier episodes he could've lost like how Yuma got better but then again that's just me being nitpicky
The more i look at yugi's character design the more he looks similar to sonic
I have never noticed that...
Thanks, I hate it.
@@rafaelkronck4987 hey, gotta go du-du-du-du-duel!!
Vrains didn't have a tournament arc. Looking back I honestly felt like the card game in Vrains was treated like an after thought. Like it barely played much into the overall narrative role compared to the other yugioh shows. GX has the duel spirits, 5D's had the signer dragons and synchro monsters cause the apocalypse, Zexal had the Numbers, and Arc-V had all the dimensions be based on various summoning methods. I can't really think of any major story or plot points that connect to the game. I guess you could say the lost incident considering the kids had to constantly duel. But that's treated more for it's psychological effect on the kids rather than the duels.
or you could just say, they were promoting DuelLinks with that anime. I kinda didn't like how they weren'r many Normal duels, most of them were a Duel Links format just with Links inside
That's really my only major complaint of VRAINS. The card game just seems to be "there" instead of being a focal point of the narrative. However, VRAINS story is actually pretty strong, so I was able to look past it.
@@Avrazael It wasn't a point for the narratve cause there was no need for it, this is the 6th series afterall... imagine a soccer anime, in later seasons they wouldn't focus on the basics of the game lol, but rather on the motivations of the chars who use the game, same for YGO. We already know a lot of it as viewers, so all we wanted was a char with ehough realistic motivation to use it to solve his problems
@@VixXstazosJOB Fair enough, I just missed having individual cards being plot devices. Like the Egyptian Gods, Signer Dragons, Dimension Dragons, etc.
@ULGROTHA The 5D's manga isn't the source material or canon, though. All the Yugioh spin offs were anime-original projects.
R.I.P when I was a kid I loved Yu-Gi-Oh
We lost a legend. RIP kazuki takahashi
The absence of New Volcanic Support is also a really important topic people need to know of.
Day 246 of waiting for new Volcanic support to arrive
Payne from out of nowhere! Do you normally watch Negative's stuff or did you find this vid randomly?
I never thought I’d see you here.
what are you doing here??!!? you are everywhere
Payne 96 you got support in 2016 let hazy flames have there time
@@jacobhueser6412 *2014
I liked old yugioh cause the monsters were inspired from fantasy such as elves, harpies, trolls, orcs, etc. Now, almost all of them are either machines or science fiction based stuff like galaxy or space related stuff.
That's really narrow minded of you. A lot of modern archetypes are still based on fantasy concepts, magic and even historical heroes, it's just that big mean dragons and robots sell to teenage boys and that's their demographic, so they get more screen time.
@@Kuroganekisaki Please tell me some archtypes that have a more traditional fantasy look. The only machines i every used recently were ancient gear golems and qlihports. I have been trying to get back into the new yugioh but can't bring myself to like the cyber monsters. Any recommendations?
@@danchase7454 World Chalice/Legacy has some beautiful fantasy artwork focusing on warriors and etc and they're really strong. Noble knights are a bit older but their effect stacking and searching are really fun.
@@Kuroganekisaki thanks. I will look it up.
@@danchase7454 Gravekeepers are really cool, Ice Barriers, Nekroz and Vampires are fantasy based and hell one of the best archetypes in recent memory is all centered around frogs
And now it's a permanent absence! :(
There's actually this idea for a story I've had rumbling around in my head for a little over a year now. Not involving Yugioh, but a new card game called Overlords. Unlike in many game based shows, there would be no supernatural threat determined to take over or destroy the world. The main conflict comes from the main character's drive to help his crippled brother walk again by winning enough money through tournaments to have a special procedure perform that would grant him a new set of legs. The biggest conflict would be how the main character approaches each battle and what his opponent's goals are. They could range from the want for lots of cash, to fame, to personal problems, or even loved ones. Now, when I said there would be no supernatural threat, I failed to mention that there would be some supernatural tidbits here and there. It's just not what carries the story as a whole. It's used in a couple of fights where someone may be in a worse position than he, and one character is particular is connected to it all.
This may sound really dumb, but I've always wanted a game based story that's more grounded, with maybe some supernatural elements. Cardfight Vanguard almost did this, but it ended up evolving into a world ending game later on.
So you just murdered the entire abridged series genre. Thank you.
This is why Yugioh 5Ds is my favourite Yugioh series that isnt DM.
Mohammad Lutfor totally respect that. Even though, zexal is my favorite! Lol.
GX or Arc-V. Even tho Arc-V was a confusing mess I enjoyed it.
I've honestly enjoyed all the series, except ZeXal(couldn't get into it at all), and Vrains(just didn't watch it, I have no feelings positive or negative about it)
I love how 5D's had a mature take, and Yusei is pretty awesome. It's a shame that after Season 1, the writing gets a bit wonky, and the show kinda devolved into 'YUSEI ᵃⁿᵈ ᶠʳᶦᵉⁿᵈˢ "
Aki really got shafted.
And Arc-V had great duels, but it sucks the show really felt rushed, the final duel with Z-Arc is just a mess
And the last season is an absolute joke.
I love all the series, but my favourite is Arc V (despite its flaws), closely followed by 5ds and Zexal (both of which are tied).
Mohammad Lutfor imo 5ds is better than dm dm is overated
i’m so glad you made this video! i’ve loved yugioh literally my entire life and was always more interested in the story than the cards. my brother often wonders why i stopped caring after 5d’s. i always say it’s because the character designs got disgustingly worse (because they did lol) but i couldn’t actually explain why - but this video helped me understand why i never had the same investment from zexal on. thank you for this take!!
Yep. It's sad because Duel Monsters was originally a tabletop rpg using cards so they think the plot twists in Duelist Kingdom were stupid because the actual product was a CCG.
IMO, Cardfight Vanguard is more of the series that learned from YGO's commercialization since Itou is obsessed with getting CCG mechanics right even if it's only a tool to move the story.
I’m finishing Volume 7 of the Yu-Gi-Oh manga now, and I’m so happy to see someone else talking about the original manga. Takahashi put so much heart behind it.
Also, Atem literally *murdering* people in the beginning was just super wild. No one talks about it.
7:30
You should have called him “Yujo”.
Friendship?
Wait is that a...
YuJo reference???
{ M e N a C i N g }
VRAINS never had a tournament
I presume we all know why we come here today, yes?
Damn you, 2022!
RIP Takahashi. I keeps feeling like it just happened today for me.
Vrains feels like the odd one out here because the fact that the character play with trading cards barely matters. Card games just sort of happen and nobody questions why they choose to duel each other instead of any other form of fighting. So we can't really say it has a focus on the card game, nor to sell the cards, but maybe it's missing the "game" part of the trading card game. Vrains doesn't even have a tournament arc (btw there's the answer to 11:52).
Rest In Peace to the real king of games.
"is there a way to have a card game story without a tournament?" Yea....it's called Link VRAINS...
It didn’t work.
5:25
"Dual Purpose"
Don't you mean...
*"Duel Purpose"?*
RIP to the legend. He made my childhood memorial and special and could imagine it without his influence. hope he rests knowing he did this for millions of people around the worlds
all i want is an anime about the monsters. The cards tells histories, like the Duel Terminal Series
The DT story took like 7 years to tell in card form, I don't want to imagine how long that anime would be.
"I Trust my card "
literally gambler that gonna lose his money
IT'S TIME TO D-D-D-D-DDDDDDDownload the first season of YuGiOh to watch again for that nostalgia
"It wasn't about the world ending"
"But it was kinda about the world ending...but also characters"
I think there’s a lot of interesting lore in the yugioh series which often skipped over. The talk of other dimensions in which the cards live, presence of mystical powers and otherworldly creatures taking power in the main world. How the cards are often manifestations of the people or certain desires or how people grow and evolve. The cards themselves have subtle stories in them, if you look closely and a lot of the themes and moments in said stories are enough to make you feel emotion. Don’t even get me started on all the things Darkness warned Judai of, at the end of GX or the parallels between the Meklord genocide and the ignis warfare of AI rising up, as part of humanities general ignorance and hasty actions, leading to inevitable destruction. Plus the possibilities of branching timelines, in relation to main character’s actions in the series creating new technology. It’s theorized that Kaiba’s choice to become a “better” person or not lead to the creation of either Xyz and Synchros, respectively.
There is so much little details which can be found that they just need some polish, to truly stand out. The issue is definitely Konami pushing of products over stories or character. It really shows in the last 2 series of YGO (VRAINS & ARC V) being lesser and missing something. VRAINS had serious budget issues and production issues but you can see glimpses of glory in there. Characters get to talk about philopshy and really complex stuff about human existence and there is a good amount of synergy between the cards and the characters. It does start to make you wonder if every person in the world has their own specific deck but it works.
Soulburner, for example, uses Salamangreats, which focuses on reincarnation, which reflects how he is trying to reincarnate himself to move past his PTSD of loosing his parents and the whole lost incident fiasco. It just needs more polish because, as it stood, the character only had the Hollywood PTSD of selectively getting emotional, at plot points. Not to mention he does come across as hogging the spotlight from other characters who ended up being neglected. Many other characters in the show have themes in their struggles which are reflected in their cards. AI’s @Ignister deck is a straight homage to the rest of Ignis. I could go on but Vrains is a whole barrel of worms. Also there was no tournament arc, HA!
Okay so I understand where you’re coming from. As someone who also loves the manga I can sympathize with being put off by the shift in focus when it comes to how the game is presented from a more realistic thing to a weird, omnipresent way of resolving conflicts that’s just there because it’s yugioh. But I don’t think this influences the writing or soul of the series as much as you’re letting on. I think a lot of stories of subsequent yugioh series have a lot of the kind of thing you described in the latter half of the video. I still find myself attached to these characters, and many of them I’d say are given the weight present in many manga characters. Vrains is a personal story about learning to be close to people after dealing with trauma. Personal stakes for characters like yuma comes from the characters he meets along the way rather than someone we know from the outset like his parents. I like that someone is talking about this shift in writing because not many people have on UA-cam but a lot of distinctions between what do and don’t work seem kind of erratic.
Well the omnipresence of the game being pretty much the alternative to anything else, is just because the cards are being marketed. Just like how Beyblade pretty much settles everything. Even the government making super soldiers just to play beyblade. They do it to keep the focus on the thing for immersion.
While I agree with your video in pretty much its entirety, I do feel as though some of the things you said about the original yugioh that the spinoffs lacked is actually present in the first spinoff, yugioh gx. I understand why you didn't bring this up because it seems like you only watch some of the anime not all of it when it comes to the spinoff animes, so its understandable why you didn't see a lot of these aspects in gx but I'm gonna bring up why I think Gx actually does have quite a few of the qualities that made the original so good.
Firstly, character motivation. This is probably the easiest one to explain as you don't really need to read through the lines to see that almost every major character and villain in yugioh gx have a personal character motivation that drives them, at least at first, the only real exceptions for the villains being Darkness and Saiou(and to be fair it would be hard for Saiou to have a super personal motivation when he's possessed by an outer worldly force that wants to destroy the world.) and Hell Kaiser Ryo for the heros during s1 and s2(in s3 he gets a more personal motivation outside of just wanting to win in the form of him wanting to have one last incredible duel before his heart condition killed him)
On the hero's side of things, Manjoume Jun the main rival in the series was attending duel academy and aiming to be the king of duelists because his two older brothers were pressuring him to do so, he felt as though he was obligated to do it to be worthy of standing side by side with his brothers. Asuka Tenjoin the main kinda sorta love interest was often getting involved with the various things going on at duel academy because she was looking for her older brother who disappeared. Edo Phoenix became a pro duelist and did other various things throughout the show because he was looking for the man who killed his father and stole the final card his father(who was a card designer) made so that he could exact revenge on the man who caused him so much pain and took away the person he loved most. Finally Sho Marifuji wanted to prove that he was a true duelist and live up to his older brothers name, as well as not be a burden to his friends.
Some people would bring up that Judai had no real personal motivation for the first two seasons of the show outside of pretty generic stuff but honestly thats pretty much the point of Judai early on. He's supposed to be the every man, the one who duels just for the fun of it and even then, you could argue he had a personal goal of wanting to become the next duel king to be like his idol Yugi Muto, and even if you say that isn't a personal goal that really works the same way the others do, he gains much more personal goals during s3 and s4.
As for the villains Amnael was trying to get the sacred beasts so he could save himself from dying not to destroy the world or anything like that and in the end he ended up deciding to change sides and act as a test for Judai to find out if he was ready to stop Kagemaru and Kagemaru wanted the Judai's soul so he could control the sacred beasts and regain his youth(For the sake of context to get the sacred beasts you needed to win all 7 spirit keys from their holders, hence why the duels were needed and we'll get to the stuff about Judai's soul later). Yubel was obsessed with Judai and their relationship as well as what Judai did to her without knowing, in the end while she was going to destroy the world the reason why her plan went the way it did was because it was all just a way to get Judai's attention back on her as well as destroy everything but them so that they would be together forever like she always wanted. Finally while Darkness and Saiou did not have super personal motivations for why they were trying to destroy the world or why they were using card games to do it, its explained why each of them had to use duel monsters to do so. Saiou needed to get the two keys to the satellite he needed to complete his plan back from Judai and Edo and when he got them both he tried to enact his plan without dueling Judai only to be stopped by elemental hero neos. As for Darkness, he actually tried to kill Judai but Judai was immune to his powers for the most part so to fully exact his plan and plunge everyone into darkness he needed to defeat Judai in a duel.
Secondly, the importance of magic and spirits in the game. Honestly a lot of people downplay exactly how important the magic and spirit stuff about duel monsters was to the plot of gx. You could maybe argue that the sacred beasts were an afterthought though I'd argue they weren't, but some of the other stuff in gx you just can't deny were heavily important to the plot. At first the entire reason why Judai is branded as special to the audience is because he was able to see duel monster spirits. One of the numerous reasons why the sacred beasts were locked away is because their presence in the normal world was literally sucking the life away of all of the duel monster spirits in the world, and Judai's soul was needed to control the sacred beasts because he was stated to have "the strongest power over spirits"(which gets expanded upon in s2 and s3). In s2 the neo spacians were basically duel monster spirits who came to aid Judai against the light of destruction and Destiny hero bloo d(or plasma) was literally consuming the souls of its victims because of it being infected with the light of destruction. Not to mention as I said earlier Judai's "power" is expanded upon and revealed to be something that stood against the light of destruction, something that prevented the light from corrupting Judai to its will like almost everyone else. In s3 the main antagonist of the entire arc is a duel monster spirit and most of the arc takes place in the duel monster spirit world, not to mention Judai's powers were finally revealed to be something called "the gentle darkness" which Judai has because he is the descendant of an ancient king, and it is revealed to be that the antagonist yubel was that king's protector and lover who then found Judai and continued her mission to protect him which is what led to all the problems that led to Judai sending Yubel away which lead to season 3. Sadly s4 did not have nearly as much importance placed on the magical and card spirit aspects of things(most likely due to the change in writer) but Judai's and Yubel's powers were still heavily important to why they detected Darkness and why they were able to stop him.
In conclusion while I don't disagree that the main purpose of gx was to continue to sell cards, I do think its unfair to say its as bad as the other spinoffs in this regard. It may be used to sell cards but I thinks its worth bringing up at the very least that gx tried to keep that same feeling the original series had in some ways and sometimes it even succeeded, theres a reason why out of all the spinoffs, gx is the only one that really seemed like a sequel to yugioh duel monsters and its not just because of the occasional reference to the original series or Yugi's, Kaiba's or Pegasus's occasional presence in the series.
The latest yugioh anime, Vrains actually had no tournament ark, so it can be done lol
That's why I loved 5Ds so much, because at it's core it was about climbing out of a poor life, and the card game takes the position of a professional sport. Jack steps on top his friends and takes away what little they have left (Stardust Dragon) in-order to attain a life of riches and Yusei is trying to get back at him, then the latter half saving the world thing happened and I didn't much care.
Rest in Peace Takahashisan
Rip legend 🙏🏻
On GX's last or second last season when they went to the "Dark World", the monsters were real like in "Pharaoh's Memories" but they always dueled...
Imagine how ridiculous this is... "I'm gonna kill you.... in a children's card game!" Instead of simple just blasting magic like in a proper shonen anime.
R.I.P Kazuki Takahashi
I've been thinking about this subject for quite a while now myself. People forget there was genuine heart in the first show and while the others do have their own charm, something's been lost since the original.
Great video, that scenario you made for a new show was kinda cool. 👍
"Heart" is really vague.
@@Bezaliel13
The fact that "heart" is vague doesn't change the fact that the new shows don't have much of it.
@@indrayatbhakta2943
What exactly is "IT" though? Honestly, even if your argument was valid, what is the merit of something that never gets defined?
@@Bezaliel13
When lots of people talk about media having "heart" it's usually a mish-mash of things like uniqueness, innovation, timelessness/memorability.
This is one of the reasons why people will sometimes say the original "insert media here" has "heart" even if the sequel was technically more polished.
@@Bezaliel13
"Heart" isn't "never defined", the definition is merely vague due to being about how a show "feels"
It's always going to be at least a bit vague; hard to get around that.
Im willing to argue this change started twards the mid point of filler in the duel monsters anime and took hold fully in GX
In GX they do specify that dueling is just a part of culture. They outright confirm that its a socially bad thing to do, to turn down a duel.
The implication is Kaiba as always is really really big on this card game, the card game was reponcible for jumping ahead decades in technology with card games being an arbitrary but intended purpus for it
I would say a real world analogue would be like how everyone started buying Playstations because they were better than DVD players and that probably got people that didnt play games to be comfortable with playing video games
but because anime, make it times 100.
7:30 Did you just summarized "Cardfight!! Vanguard Remind"?! Because your example mirrors their plot line.
Damn, I'm late
Wslasher I mean when in doubt copy paste plots from other shows
It was also similar to the first season of Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal.
Kaito is killing people and preventing Astral from regaining his memory, but we find out he's doing so to save his brother Haruto from a disease. We then find out Haruto's disease comes from an alien world and over time corrupts him. Kaito's father is then possessed by Vector and Shark, Kaito, and Yuma have to team up to remove Vector from Kaito's father.
It feels like Vanguard Remind G NEXT
As yugioh continues to develop, i really want to see some better development because the duels are becoming more repetitive and sometimes i just skip them, although each variation of yugioh is different in there own right, i personally want to see a more interwoven story connected to all the other story arcs almost like arc v but a more thorough better connected story maybe with all the protagonists and antagonists of their respective stories and we get to see the new cards of their respective archetypes and as you said get that magic connection from the original story.
damn, the manga looks amazing, I thought the art style would look older, definitely gonna read now
The first volumes are horror focused and 50% of it is not cannon
@@sarthakarora3212 uh no, it is canon. Even in the duelist kingdom arc Takahashi ties back to beginning arcs. Everything in the manga is canon.
If you're speaking solely on the anime, that is the decision for konami or the animation company to specifically exclude it.
season 0 looks old but once he got funding from konami to draw duel monsters aka season 1 onwards it looks amazing cause he had more editors funding to redraw stuff and help and just had better understanding of his craft and they went back and fixed up his panels with more budget
@@razkable
Konami isn't the company that hires editors for the mangaka, that's actually shueisha, publisher of shonen jump.
Because of the burst of popularity of the card game arc, it led to Takahashi extending out, leading to Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters.
I don't think funding had anything to do with the more polishing of art even though it helps, just that Takahashi's art style changed from the first few volumes up to duelist kingdom.
With the manga anniversary a few years ago it led to the releases of the bunkoban volumes I believe, which did have some significant changes esp with the Egyptian arc which Takahashi drew while ill leading to his much needed hiatus. Based on his author notes, I don't think the publisher had anything to do with the remade panels or art, just Takahashi redoing parts to fix issues in addition to the new art covers.
sarthak arora wtf are you talking about? The entirety of the original manga is 100% canon. The Duelist Kingdom arc in the manga reference the first 60 chapters quite a lot and The Ultimate RPG game that Yugi and Bakura play in the Millennium World (pharaoh’s memory) arc is a massive reference to the Monster World RPG board game they played during chapters 50-59 the chapters before the Duelist Kingdom tournament.
VRAINS didn’t have a tournament and that seems fine to me but that’s my opinion liked your videos
This video hits even harder now. RIP legend, the true King of Games
I personally liked the duel monster series more than other series. Maybe because it's Takahashi work.
season 0 is basically millennium world arc on dark steroids...and its great
@@razkable that reminds me, I love the season 0 too! especially the voice actor of Yugi is different from what we have in DM.
YES! When Dark Side of Dimensions came out, I was honestly overjoyed, because it was a mini-revival of what Takahashi started.
The original yu-gi-oh series will always be my favorite!
@@OrganizationXIII mine too
"Is there a card game anime without a tournament?"
Yu-Gi-Oh Vrains says hi.
Luck and Logic lol
Wixoss
I never watched the Modern Yu Gi Oh Series like Vains or Arc v or 5D I just watched Duel monsters, GX and Zexal
@@bathumb45 tournaments is what makes Duel monsters interesting
Yu-Gi-Oh! has an honestly special place in my heart, and I'm so, so glad you uploaded this. Sign me up for any other YGO! rambles ya got, dude! (Side note: Agree very much with your "Working Title" for this video, lmao.)
Honestly no series is perfect but as someone who's seen the yugioh manga and all 6 yugioh series in subbed, as much as i love duel monsters I will admit theres alot of things that the 5 spin offs do do better than duel monsters. and I feel if Takahashi did return with a new yugioh series he should take some examples from the spin offs
nope, original yugioh which is literally king of every different game is the best
@@Hakaishi00 well that's true opinion, everyone has different tastes, I personally find the characters to be better written in the spin-offs than DM, I find the plots of Vrains and 5D's to be better than DM as well, personally DM could learn something from the spin-offs
RIP Legend 🙏
Rip Takahashi 😞😞😞
My dude you just described Cardfight Vanguard Shin-arc only switch around family members
VRAINS is probably the spinoff with the most personal story to tell. Most characters and especially Yusaku have personal stakes for why they duel. If fact I remember reading somewhere that Yusaku doesn’t even like dueling he does it because he has to. Which makes me realize he never had a moment where he smiled and commented on having a good time.
I don't like how your version's only female character was troped into "dying girl" and then "possessed villain girl" which are, like, WAY too common in shonen stuff, BUT! Honestly still found myself liking your scenario and getting some cool vibes from it. Nicely made video as a whole too.
I was about to say this too! Can we stop with the mind-controlled girl trope that Yu-Gi-Oh! female characters get thrown into please? It's getting pretty dull
Good pount! Luckily, unlike most underdeveloped female Shonen characters, his Aunt creation has motives, power & is actually a threat. (Tea was there to stroke Yugi's ego.) He could also give her an arc in season two if she doesn't die...And he could add in some gals who aren't possessed or infected so they can actually make decisions for themselves. Also, hopefully he'll add in more female characters. 52% of the population is female and gals like games too so it would make the world feel more diverse. Yu-Gi-Oh! was mostly straight Japanese dudes, which is only a small portion of the world's population that would be facing a "worldwide threat". 'MERICA! (I have to remind dudes vaginas don't stop girls from learning how to play card games.)
@@dustindey7612 Yu-Gi-Oh! was mostly straight Japanese dudes because that's the target audience, nothing wrong with that really :P
That said, I really disliked how they cut Aki's character arc and presence in the show in favor of Crow, Aki and Yusei were my favorite characters of 5D's.
@@Dragonoid269 I don't know if Takahashi was thinking, "Golly, boys with penises who like girls will love this the most!" Konami probably was thinking something equivalent. ~ All kinds of people love the story & the game and all I want is for them to make the world feel inclusive. They've gradually done it over time. GX had more types of people dueling, especially body-type wise. ~ Yeah! Aki got screwed so hard. -I maybe feel most upset for Tori! She didn't do ANYTHING!
We need more characters like Mai and Akiza, that aren't just cheerleaders, weaklings who can barely duel or damels.
"Now here's what happens next." And an ad plays lol
“Why people didn’t like ZEXAL”
People, generally, specifically didn’t like Yuma early on (or through basically the entire show). However, ZEXAL II’s considered by a fair number of people to be the best anime in the franchise.
If that's the case, then that would make more sense. I liked ZEXAL, but people typically just say they didn't like it because of Yuma. If they actually mean that they liked the story-line then that would make me feel a lot better.
I liked zexal, but its definitely not the best
Ive heard people love Zexal as it goes on because of the developpment Yuma goes through during the series, going from a grade school level of dueling (sticking cards that look cool together and playing on autopilot) to actually being able to break boards and use good strategies, instead of being a god clutch master every game. There's also the dub of zexal which turned off a lot of people when they first saw it on saturday morning, since it's really atrocious and butchers Yuma's character. Sorry for my incoherent explanation haha
That's the reason I dislike Zexal they could of made the mc any other character and I would of enjoyed it a hell of a lot more. Kite, Shark, or even one of the side characters would of been so much better. Honestly Kite, Shark, and the duels are what kept me around, also Dextra is bae 😉
I liked zexal and i consider Yuma as one of the best protagonist, because he feels more human and realistic, someone that it's bad but never give up and try to improve, while other protagonists since they born they are undefeatable because yes everyone loves Mary Sue's protagonist right?
Rip to a legend. No words to say. Absolutely depressing. We will miss you forever.
10:32-!0:50 uh Vanguard already did that kinda thing
So heres my thoughts on this. First of all, the entire 'spin offs worse bc card game bad' has been a mindset among non-game players for a VERY long time. While the point isn't really wrong here, I think saying the rest of the franchise doesn't give a reason for the card game to exist is just... simply untrue. Speaking as a fan of the franchise as a consumer of the shows/manga, and a player of the card game, the evolution of the Duel Monsters game from a magical mcguffin to give it's shonen a hook to a full on in universe way of life is an interesting one.
You see that slow progression from DM to GX, and it's more realized in 5Ds, where dueling has become something of a hyper popular competitive sport. It's used to solve problems and settle disputes and for entertainment in the same way you'd use any kind of sport or contest of wit, just with a bigger, more bombastic anime twist.
And also, again, as a player of the game myself, the heavy focus on marketing new cards is one of my favourite aspects of the show. Anime fans of yugioh tend to have this mindset that they're the only people these shows are made for, when theres plenty of people (like myself) who DO watch these for the new cards too.
R.i.p kazuki takahashi
I personally really like the newer anime because I like the card game.
Kazuki's manga is the best ygo story. I totally agree on everything you say. Kazuki's characters are more complex that the spin-offs characters (although I do love them as well).
so...its the cardfight vanguard:shinemon arc story with some of G's final season thrown in
funny since the absence of takahashi is yugioh R,written by his assistent,who created vanguard
now he actually gone too