A number safety issues here with the grinder operation. Wear protective gloves, NOT latex. Wear safety glasses, NEVER operate a grinder without them. Use a grinder with a handle and a guard. If your grinder doesnt have a handle, at least hold it with two hands. Secure the item you are cutting in a vice. The way the operator is holding the bracket with their hand is so dangerous you are asking to lose or severely injure your hand or another body part.
I’m about to do this mod so thanks for the video! Did you do the rear? Same benefits as up front. I also got the rear kit with the track bar correction parts too!
@@OtzleeExplains you should try and pick up some rear kdss sway bar drop spacers while you’re at it. Blackgate, Treaty Oak, Ironman or Greenlane off-road
Nice video. I just ordered the KDSS sway bar spacer kit.. I noticed you have wheel spacers. Have you had any issues with them? Also how do you like the DR_KDSS outer sway bar bushings?
I've been running my spacers for over 4yrs, no issues. The only obstacle I encountered was the need for the BMC. I was getting wheel rub at full reverse. I'm running 285/70/17's. Regarding the outer sway bar bushings, I can't really tell the difference but I was going to work on the KDSS anyways so decided to order the sway bar bushings at the same time.
Def don't use them together (I learned the hard way because I didn't read the descriptions). You'll end up getting interference issues. From the DR.KDSS site "Both the drop spacer and these adapters push the sway bar forward. Using both will have the sway bar too much forward and crashing into the front crossmember / skid plate." Also learned after talking to Dom that this is going to be better than the kdss drop spacers. I have them installed and will be removing them in favor of these adapters.
Great video, got the exact the same from dr. Kdss. Have some questions here. 1: Do you need to jack up the truck let 4 wheels off ground? 2: do you need to loose the Kdss release valve before adding those parts? 3: need to reset Kdss after the install? Appreciated for your support
You just need to jack up the front. You may need a crowbar to help realign the bolt on the sway but it’s not bad. I did not have to loosen or reset the kdss afterward but you will need an alignment
Great Video. I have a 2021 4Runner venture and just got a lift 3" king shock's on it but unfortunately it feels like its not alignemd it pulls to the right and at times it vibrates can you please help in informing me what can be happening?
Thank you for getting back to me on my concern. Alignment yes two times because the shop were i got it done couldn't figure it out so after i took my 4 runner back to shop the first time they did another Alignment but that didn't fix anithing and I'm afraid they won't be able to fix because they are telling me to bring it back a 4th time. So Alignment yes and no tire upgrade i got my Toyo tires about 1 year ago the shop just did a 3" lift and Alignment.
You should consider this even with a 2” lift. The angle of the kdss and sway takes a beating without this. My 2021 TRD orp with 22k miles has worn bushings already from not doing this earlier
I order the billet clamps for my sway bars, front and back. After watching this and other videos I went and looked at mine and realized the front passenger side outside rubber "clamp" was missing. Completely gone. The driver side is stretched and twisted and about to break. My truck is 2021 (granted with about 50K miles) but I was surprised how bad they are. The KDSS shock body is right up against the frame too!
@@OtzleeExplains I don’t wheel my 4Runner very hard. I have put on a fair amount of miles but I don’t rock crawl with it. I have a heavily modified H1 Hummer that I take to Moab and that gets pretty well used. The 4Runner is my family camping in the desert or mountain mobilize… so I was surprised to see the status when I looked at those rubber clamps.
@@Empath-xb6sf On the KDSS vehicles like the 4runner, GX470, GX460, in the front the KDSS sway bar attaches directly to the lower control arm with no end link, and in the rear it attaches directly to the rear axle. There is no end links like the non-KDSS vehicles.
@jfriday1ify the rear swaybar bolts directly to the axle with one side having an end link attached the frame crossmember on the passenger side. The front swaybar has end links on both passenger and driver side connected to the lower control arms. This is how it's set-up on my 2019 land cruiser, I'm not experienced with other models though.
Is anyone running into the issue with having CBI skids? So after install and treaty oak spacer OR the DR.KDSS adapters the front sway bar sits pretty much on the CBI front skid. Hoping someone might have a solution...
Cheaper, yes, but I've lost 2 bushings on the driver side both times. And I've only put 60,000 miles on my 4runner. Once was on the trip up to Oregon from socal. No Toyota dealership on the way up had the bushing in stocks so I was left to wrapping my clamp and bar in 2 inch electrical tape to prevent rubbing and loud banging sounds of the kids sway bar. This fixes that problem from happening again. Buy once, cry once. Altogether, this is one of my cheapest mods. 😅
Because my rig is lifted and once the vehicle is lifted it changes the angle of the front sway bar, causing the rubber bushings to prematurely wear faster. This dr kdss bracket fixes the angle
It's rare to find a product that works exactly as advertised. Thank you!
Our pleasure!
A number safety issues here with the grinder operation. Wear protective gloves, NOT latex. Wear safety glasses, NEVER operate a grinder without them. Use a grinder with a handle and a guard. If your grinder doesnt have a handle, at least hold it with two hands. Secure the item you are cutting in a vice. The way the operator is holding the bracket with their hand is so dangerous you are asking to lose or severely injure your hand or another body part.
Did you did the kdss spacer also?
Or doctor kdss only spacer front and back ? Nice rigs brother
I did the dr kdss spacer fix in the front. It’s much better now
What size drill bit did you use? Did you drill all the way through to the hollow part?
I forgot what drill bit size but we did drill through
I’m about to do this mod so thanks for the video! Did you do the rear? Same benefits as up front. I also got the rear kit with the track bar correction parts too!
I haven’t got to the back yet. My front end was the priority. Ill be doing the back soon.
@@OtzleeExplains you should try and pick up some rear kdss sway bar drop spacers while you’re at it. Blackgate, Treaty Oak, Ironman or Greenlane off-road
Nice video. I just ordered the KDSS sway bar spacer kit.. I noticed you have wheel spacers. Have you had any issues with them? Also how do you like the DR_KDSS outer sway bar bushings?
I've been running my spacers for over 4yrs, no issues. The only obstacle I encountered was the need for the BMC. I was getting wheel rub at full reverse. I'm running 285/70/17's. Regarding the outer sway bar bushings, I can't really tell the difference but I was going to work on the KDSS anyways so decided to order the sway bar bushings at the same time.
@@OtzleeExplains thank you for the info. Appreciate you sharing your videos.
Were there any torque specs on these parts?
Yeah we torqued everything to spec afterwards
So if you used the Treaty Oak spacer, you would not need this?
Def don't use them together (I learned the hard way because I didn't read the descriptions). You'll end up getting interference issues. From the DR.KDSS site "Both the drop spacer and these adapters push the sway bar forward. Using both will have the sway bar too much forward and crashing into the front crossmember / skid plate."
Also learned after talking to Dom that this is going to be better than the kdss drop spacers. I have them installed and will be removing them in favor of these adapters.
Great video, got the exact the same from dr. Kdss. Have some questions here.
1: Do you need to jack up the truck let 4 wheels off ground?
2: do you need to loose the Kdss release valve before adding those parts?
3: need to reset Kdss after the install?
Appreciated for your support
You just need to jack up the front. You may need a crowbar to help realign the bolt on the sway but it’s not bad. I did not have to loosen or reset the kdss afterward but you will need an alignment
Great Video.
I have a 2021 4Runner venture and just got a lift 3" king shock's on it but unfortunately it feels like its not alignemd it pulls to the right and at times it vibrates can you please help in informing me what can be happening?
Did you get an alignment after lift? Did the vibration happen after the lift? Did you upgrade tires?
Thank you for getting back to me on my concern. Alignment yes two times because the shop were i got it done couldn't figure it out so after i took my 4 runner back to shop the first time they did another Alignment but that didn't fix anithing and I'm afraid they won't be able to fix because they are telling me to bring it back a 4th time.
So Alignment yes and no tire upgrade i got my Toyo tires about 1 year ago the shop just did a 3" lift and Alignment.
And vibration started after the lift Specially when I'm going over 60.
I wonder if a 2' lift needed this? I'm thinking abt level my runner out with fox 2.0 perfomance 2' front 1' rear.
You should consider this even with a 2” lift. The angle of the kdss and sway takes a beating without this. My 2021 TRD orp with 22k miles has worn bushings already from not doing this earlier
@@OtzleeExplains i might as well have it installed when I do the lift to save time :p
@@HungNguyen-jq2lx yes. I would do it the same time. Especially since you have to do an alignment for both
I order the billet clamps for my sway bars, front and back. After watching this and other videos I went and looked at mine and realized the front passenger side outside rubber "clamp" was missing. Completely gone. The driver side is stretched and twisted and about to break. My truck is 2021 (granted with about 50K miles) but I was surprised how bad they are. The KDSS shock body is right up against the frame too!
Wow that clamp took a beating! This will help fix your issues moving forward! Do you wheel hard?
@@OtzleeExplains I don’t wheel my 4Runner very hard. I have put on a fair amount of miles but I don’t rock crawl with it. I have a heavily modified H1 Hummer that I take to Moab and that gets pretty well used. The 4Runner is my family camping in the desert or mountain mobilize… so I was surprised to see the status when I looked at those rubber clamps.
how much is yours lifted?
I have Kings adjustable 2.5” lift, I probably have it cranked up 4/5th of the way up. So maybe a 2.25” total lift, I could be off
Does this mod also apply to an Icon lifted KDSS equiped 4Runner?
It applies to any kdss equipped 4Runner with an added lift. The added lift puts a lot of stress on the joints.
Why not just upgrade your swaybar endlinks?
I may do that in the future.
KDSS doesn't have sway bar end links.
@jfriday1ify I personally own a vehicle with kdss, yes it does
@@Empath-xb6sf On the KDSS vehicles like the 4runner, GX470, GX460, in the front the KDSS sway bar attaches directly to the lower control arm with no end link, and in the rear it attaches directly to the rear axle. There is no end links like the non-KDSS vehicles.
@jfriday1ify the rear swaybar bolts directly to the axle with one side having an end link attached the frame crossmember on the passenger side. The front swaybar has end links on both passenger and driver side connected to the lower control arms. This is how it's set-up on my 2019 land cruiser, I'm not experienced with other models though.
Is anyone running into the issue with having CBI skids? So after install and treaty oak spacer OR the DR.KDSS adapters the front sway bar sits pretty much on the CBI front skid. Hoping someone might have a solution...
Hey thanks for the video ❤🙌🏽🔥
No problem! Thanks for the awesome and much needed product! Can’t wait to get my hands on the kdss switch next!
Gonna need a litle more paint than that, if it is steel part!
Will do!
Nice Video! Ty
You’re welcome
Should be torqued to factory spec.
I bet new bushings are cheaper than the “fix”.
Cheaper short term but you’ll need an alignment each time so it’ll add up
Cheaper, yes, but I've lost 2 bushings on the driver side both times. And I've only put 60,000 miles on my 4runner. Once was on the trip up to Oregon from socal. No Toyota dealership on the way up had the bushing in stocks so I was left to wrapping my clamp and bar in 2 inch electrical tape to prevent rubbing and loud banging sounds of the kids sway bar. This fixes that problem from happening again. Buy once, cry once. Altogether, this is one of my cheapest mods. 😅
holy shit man buy a vice grip
if KDSS is so amazing why do you need a fix? lol
Because my rig is lifted and once the vehicle is lifted it changes the angle of the front sway bar, causing the rubber bushings to prematurely wear faster. This dr kdss bracket fixes the angle