iPhone 13 Pro - ProRes vs STANDARD vs CINEMATIC MODE
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2021
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Is the new iPhone 13 Pro - ProRes format just a hype or a really cool feature?See the video and find out for yourself from this Real World test between the Standard vs ProRes format vs Cinematic Mode.
Note: ProRes videos were recorded with the FilMic Pro app.
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To me the biggest advantage of ProRes is it gets rid of the hyper-sharpened look associated with digital cameras.
you trippin it looks sharp af , makes it phone quality like
If I film in prores can I still edit and upload the video from my iPhone or is it solely for editing on PC software? Could you upload a protea video directly to instagram from the iPhone or would there be no point?
i'd say that the biggest advantage is that even with a fast airdrop connection it will take 1 minute to down load 1 minute of prores 422 hq footage from my iphone. lol
@@Saltytide2424 one thing people should know is that prores files are meant for post-editing, not for direct output. so usually prores files would be edited and converted into desired final format. it would be crazy just to think about it if ppl use prores for direct output, because the files are so large and even an 1TB IPhone could only store up to 450min 1080P/30fps prores videos. And considering IPhone only supports usb2.0, it would be frustrating when you are going to tranfser data...
This is nothing to do with ProRes, it’s the extra sharpening applied by the camera, you can take the ProRes, convert it to H.265 10bit which will look identical at 1/3 of the size.
as an android guy, i respect apple for such a great camera
This Android user for 11 years, just switched the system. Bought an iPhone 13 Pro. I do miss things in android and there are few annoying things in iOS. But mostly I am liking it so far.
@@flex.abhi1 can You name a few at least of pluses and minuses?
@@RK1FX (not Abhishek) I bought my first iphone earlier this year after owning several pixels, and earlier google nexus. The iphone has great video and I love the iphone mini form factor, but there are so many irritating things - you can't customise very much. When you try and automate something using 'shortcuts' app you can't avoid a giant notification that you have to dismiss before the automation happens, you aren't even able to dismiss an alarm before it goes off - you have to turn the alarm totally off, and then remember to turn it on later. No haptic feedback - honestly it drives me f****** crazy. However, I'm still using it as I said for the form factor and the video. Man - if only apple would tweak a few things, they would have a great device. However, as soon as Pixel gets some decent video I'll move back straight away. But if you can live with the ios software, it is a well made premium device.
At least Sony's making the effort 😏 That new Xperia Pro 1 looks promising
@@patrickpaganini thank You for an honest opinion! I'll have to grab my gf phone for a week to use it as she has the 11 IP and see how it is. Never had ios, was android and before a Nokia Symbian.
This was by far the most impressive Cinematic Mode showcase I've seen so far on UA-cam! Really really good!
Thanks a lot !!
But its still not good looking...i would never use it myself. The point of having bokeh is to distinguish not just the edges of the subject in center focus but every detail that is left on the edge and isnt part of the background. Thats what gives it that layered feel, that there is in fact something closer and also an intricate background.
you have not seen xperia pro- i lol. i like iphone too but it makes this video look cheap...cinematic mode on xperia pro I is by far the best...the colors are not even close
Time of day
Location
Choice of colors
These are the main factors
@@DenisBarbas insane beauty
Your taking with a phone is 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks a lot !!
@@DenisBarbas i am in confusion whether to buy 13 pro pro max? what's the major difference? why should i buy max?
@@ShekharMine the only difference b/w pro and max is just the battery and screen size
Phone does all the work
@@Sai-xz2uo it’s not just about what tool you have, it about how you use them
Your work comes alive even more in Pro Res. Beautiful!!
Appreciate it !
@@DenisBarbas Really beautiful video!! Were the prores and camera footage you showed colour graded or are these stright out of camera?
The video we ALL wanted, the comparisons! Great job and thank you for doing this. This helps a lot of us see the powers of these features next to each other.
Thank you! Happy to hear that!
It's not only about your device, it depends how good are you at filming.
20% device and 80% the perspective, parameters and vision is solely of the filmmaker
Kind of, apple did really well with stabilization during video so its a lot more on the phone now aswell
I agree on it. But at the same time better Camara, lead just to better quality. Like more details, in this case you do need to have to higher sharpness in the phone, the bigger sensors just capture the details with out struggling. Stability in the is easier in this new device
You 100% completely nailed that camera example. Seriously…this is exactly what people want to see when deciding between the cameras. You are amazing
Color graded was amazing. The picture looks so cool and sharper.
Thanks for the review and comparisons! Did you have HDR turned On or OFF for these? I know it's 'on' by default, but exporting and sharing HDR content, especially side by side with non-HDR is very very challenging due to color space issues.
I’ve been researching some much into ProRes vs Standard. This video, in less than 3 minutes, has moved me to ProRes. Thank you.
Beautifully shot, guys! I thoroughly enjoyed watching this! Keep up the great work!
That is just some dope cameras for the phone 🔥. And the fact that the color graded footage looks like something from pro-camera is insane.
and the stabilized footage, all from one tiny block, holy F
its not even close to pro camera lol...try xperia pro I , thats a real pro camera phone
right. Now do vlogging with that
ProRes greatly improves the highlight roll-off and dynamic range. The footage seems softer yet more detailed as well!
My impression was exactly the opposite: due to less on-the-fly processing the dynamic range seems to be lower in the ProRes clips (just look at the clipped highlights on hair early in the video). The reason is, that the Standard mode does this realtime HDR effect that all modern smartphones do, resulting in much smoother highlights roll-off. I agree with the rest of your comment though.
What is prores ?
This was great! Not a bunch of regurgitated mumbo jumbo that we already know about like so many other videos! Thanks for the side by side comparison that surely took much time to produce!
Finally a video that shows exactly what I needed !Thank you 🙏 . Great comparison!
Really good! I can't see myself ever using the cinematic mode but the ProRes looks fantastic.
This is a great video for comparing all this, nice work!
Thank you!
Learnt so much about the ProRes capabilities through this 2:43 mins video. Thanks
This was so awesome Denis!! Loved it !!
Nice comparison! At 1:49 and 2:09 the Standard Camera seems to zoom better then ProRes. The standard also seems to have better stabilization, like in 1:57 and 2:23, but the color job on ProRes looks amazing.
it's like the perfect camera to compliment the air 2s and double as your controller screen.
Just wonderful work, and it was a joy to watch!
These are some great comparisons! Thanks!
The Pro res looks neat! Even though a bit unnatural, I like the look.
Couple of questions that would help me here;
- What program did you use to create video
- What timeline fps setting did you use?
- What codec did you use to export?
Thanks!
Same question
if you right click the video you can choose tech specs and you will see 24p timeline. The color grades were not that much so any decent software could do this. He probably used a high bit h264 codec since it's for youtube. Hope that helps even though I'm not the creator. :D
EDIT: just saw his LUT pack in the description which is marketed for the resolve, premiere and FCPX, so there ya go. I personally use Resolve but it's just personal preference these days.
In love with ProRes and ur color grading skills 👌🏻❤️
You both did great man!
Loves your cinematography ❤️
Thank you!
Stunning location above all. Great comparisons and edit work.
Thank you!
where is this?
You are great at conveying things literally❤❤❤
Thank for getting straight to the points so artistic and reliable
Thank you!
I CLEARLY made the right choice to upgrade to the 13 Pro Max for the ProRes alone. This is from a phone? Beam me up Scottie... can you believe how far technology has come? Thanks for the video! Very satisfying.
4K only on 256GB or higher. Otherwise it’s only 1080p.
Haha …thank you! I’m sure you’ll enjoy your new iPhone! Crazy to see where technology is going…really exciting times we live in.
@@NizarNoor Yep! I was aware of that and got the 256! Good heads up for those who don’t know. When the next iPhone comes out and if the ProRes is key I will bump up the storage for sure.
@Black_Coin Yes, if you want to use ProRes you MUST have 256 or higher.
I recorded a video that was only 1:30 long and it was almost 7 GB.
Where was this video taken at! Looks amazing!
Great work !!
Bravo! You guys really know your stuff! Excellent comparison. Thanks for this!
This was amazing to watch and a good comparison too! Didn’t know that the ProRes format has such a huge difference compared to the standard camera. I wonder if this will be better on the iPhone 14 Pro because of the upgraded pixels. Hope you can make another one of this and compare it with that phone if ever you’re getting one. I ordered mine and excited to try it out because of this video. Thanks for making this by the way. :)
To me, there is no difference at all. More precisely, the standard camera shoots even better!
Theoretically, the iPhone has always been able to shoot standard H264/5 video at significantly higher (400%?) bitrates than standard using custom apps like MoviePro. I wonder whether high bitrate H264 compares favourably to the ProRes?
This is really interesting 🧐
@@typeins5139 I now have a 13 Pro Max but it's the 128Gb so only 1080p ProRes. In some situations, the detail is better in ProRes when really zoomed in because it does less processing or something. However, it definitely doesn't justify the file size increase.
OMG this is stunning
Thanks for this beautiful video!!
Just to confirm. The 4K ProRes samples don’t use any color grading 😳 ? Really impressed to see the comparison. I edit most of my videos on the phone. Do you know if Adobe Rush can cope with the ProRes format ?
Breathtaking shots! All 3 modes usable if you know how to handle it in post. Can't wait to get the phone 😉
I’m sure you’ll love it.
the dynamic range and quality of contours and colors is amazing
Seriously awesome video bro ⚡
Did you edit the ProRes footage or adjust things to get better dynamic range or is it just straight out of camera, not edited? The ProRes footage is significantly more dynamic range.
My question is also same...I think this 1st gen of pro-res is not worth it.
In the description says "ProRes videos were recorded with the FilMic Pro app", so probably is out-of-the-box but is a different app so is inconclusive anyways.
@@sergioccarneiro FilMic does use the API provided by Apple so it is the same ProRes as you would get by using the stock camera app
@@nabajyotikumardas171 k
I'd like to see this compared to ProRes just from the stock camera app as well.
Everybody comparing Standard vs ProRes vs Cinematic, or Apple vs Android, but no one talking about how the hell it is possible to take such awesome videos with something you can keep in your pocket and that most people can afford.
Did you watch this on a 4k 32'' screen ? Because it's not awesome, we are far from it. There is a huge lack of smoothness and the details are not crisp at all. There is a huge margin for improvements, because everyone can notice it's not shot with a real camera. And the end result is NOT convincing at all. A real camera is still needed.
I specially like that prores camera mode
This video was being stress relief after watching it... Good work 👍
Oh Denis, what a content indeed! 💯
I think I fell more in love with the environment than the camera. I want to hike there.
Where it located?
@@asko9620 Dolomites
it looks ok-ish on my a 4k tv. But it did come a long way. It's a good upgrade compared to previous generations.
Great illustration of wet prores gets you. Love this thank you!
Man the best camera video king ever on a smartphone period.✌️🔥🔥
It looks pretty closely similar ! Honestly surprised how good the standard is compared to something that needs editing in post. I mean, you can edit the standard too, get it done within seconds. I used to obsess over details but now my 13 Pro just lets me shoot as how my mind sees it then.
Yeah, the biggest difference is the ProRes is more detailed with background setting and looks more natural. Close up, it is harder to tell the difference. I thought Cinematic Mode looked the best in terms of colors at least but some in the comments are saying it looks terrible, not sure what I'm missing. What sucks about ProRes is that it takes up a shit ton of space in a short time.
*• Standard:* I'm recording with a phone.
*• ProRes:* Cinema look, whoa.
*• Cinematic Mode:* What's with the blur around the subject? Looks like an Instagram filter.
What a beautiful video with that music.
great shots, great locations, great color grading and great ending!
Smooth💥
Thanks
Woah, Thats alot of difference. I didn't expect that. Better dynamic range and best of all, pro res doesn't has that shitty digital sharpening you see in almost every smart phone
The best cinematic ever from an iPhone and love the color grading ❤️
Thanks for sharing . I am captivated 🤩 when I saw it
I love the prores the most, been using my 13 promax for a week and really enjoying the definition of the video. The only painful part of it is that it really consume so much of the ohone memory. Amd the Cinematic mode it’s so amazing having it like making a film thru the power of a handy device! Overall, I am enjoying so much having Iphone 13 pro max! Worth the upgrade!
The cinematic mode often does a terrible job, but when it works, it’s amazing…having that in a phone that you always carry around with you plus the ability to shoot ProRes is what made me switch to Apple this year.
If you want sharper background ProRes is a better option. If youre okay with a slight blurry background, cinematic mode looks good
Damn, the ProRes looks awesome! Thanks for making the side-by-side comparison!
Awesome video. Thanks
The ProRes has noticeably more contrast and detail than the standard. Cinematic just ads the digital focus racking
Is it contrast and details or dynamic range boost with prores?
ProRes looks so amazing... And cinematic too.
LOVED IT
Bravo! Brilliant comparison.
Can you clarify a bit on how these were shot? Did you shoot the prores footage using manual exposure in the FilMic Pro app, and the standard camera footage using the default camera app with automatic exposure? Or were they both shot in FilMic Pro?
Was any kind of post correction done on either sources, or is this straight out of camera?
This is the real question we need answered. ProRes is a type of RAW format right? So in theory all of these would be edited in post anyway, so how do the corrected version of each video look?
The Dolomites are looking as breathtaking as always
One of my favourite places on Earth!
@@DenisBarbas ohh same, even my profile pic was taken there haha
Bro its all about your skills and video editing ❤ great skills man loved it 🥰
Ultimately you explained ❤❤
Insane! ProRes or not, your clips caught with an IPhone look like a movie. The color scheme seemed a bit more appealing in ProRes. But your grading has always been amazing. Hope the last shot did not hurt too much 😉👍
Möchte wissen welchen Film du gesehen hast der so aussah :D
Für ne Handykamera bestimmt nicht schlecht, trotzdem nicht mit ner normalen Kamera oder sogar ner Filmkamera zu vergleichen...
Ich verstehe auch nicht warum immer diese Vergleiche versucht werden, es ist und bleibt eine Handykamera, übertreibt die Lage doch nicht
@@RobSemillia Naja, ich finde das Grading von Denis immer verdammt stark. Klar kann eine Filmkamera bessere Ergebnisse erzielen, aber ich fand die Aufnahmen, die Farben und die Schnitte eben recht cinematisch. Sagen wir mal so - wenn ich mit meiner spiegellosen Kamera solche Shots aus dem Laufen aufnehmen will ohne Gimbal, werden sie nicht so gut. Wenn ich mit Stativ arbeite sind die Aufnahmen natürlich besser und haben mehr Tiefe. Dennoch fand ich das Ergebnis sehr beeindruckend und meilenweit weg von dem, was ich mit einem Handy zustandebringen würde. Es ging mir nicht um eine Lobeshymne auf das IPhone, sondern um das, was Denis daraus gemacht hat.
@@RobSemilliaif you didn’t know, you wouldn’t tell! iPhones have been used to film many shots in big budget movies.
How can you even dislike this??? We are all part of a community that loves where smartphones are headed! Spread the positivity and be proud of where we are.
There’s only one thing I dislike: me looking at this on my iPad instead of walking there myself 😑
@Pioter Slav ????
Mate, people dislike videos that contain people saving peoples lives or animals lives…people just like hating
People are just scumbags period.
preach
great video, thanks!
As an Android fan I just can say that this absolutely amazing 🔥
Wow! What a difference prores makes! Where was this shot??
Tbf, most of that is because of correct exposure and white balance. On top of that, the prores shots are graded well. So manual settings and a good colour correction/grade will probably give you a very similar result.
@@Kshitijj No, they said in another comment that the prores footage is not edited at all. That IS crazy good quality you can not achieve with the standard file format. (It's basically correct what you're saying- but the ability to capture exposure etc with enough detail is what makes prores stand out, after all.) There really is a big difference here.
@@LaurelKoeniger oh, my bad. The prores is just corrected to rec 709 probably. The cinematic mode is graded and I got confused.
The prores was shot on Filmic pro and they already had a high bitrate format called Filmic Extreme. It'd be interesting to see how different both of them look in comparison.
Love that swiss mug you got on your rucksack
Now that’s quality 👌🏻
Any way i like the yellow jacket
Me too, haha!
ProRes def has a better look.... The next question- what version is the best to use- I saw that you were ProResHQ- but my guess is that is overkill for the data an iPhone sensor can generate- I have been using ProResLT - but we really need a comparison between the different ProRes varieties to see where the 'sweet spot' is. HQ is so memory hungry.
It'd be so funny if it turned out that Filmic Extreme is the sweet spot😂
yes we need this. i hope denis will make a comparison for that
Very nice video! Thank you
Amazing video. As someone who does not know too much about photography/videography, but has an interest in it, this was the perfect video to show what is possible on iPhones and the power of editing 👏
That “prores vs standard” comparison is more like about exposure and white balance. Difference in details is not so significant.
Agree, but not if you're watching the originals. UA-cam compression is so high it pretty much wipes the extra details.
But you can tell that the "standard" video is processed
I noticed that too. The file size is significantly different though
it feels that standard video is just lil bright, what if we dial down the exposure a lil bit and i think that will work fine
also prores looked a bit sharper
@@Wowski733 yeah thats true. But i have seen many videos and concluded that its fine to record in normal codec as such this can save storage, money as such for prores people will buy 256gb model and that too will be filled in some minutes. Also a good colour grading really makes the video stand out.
@@Tech_spert yes
You have great view for this video sample ! Keep it up
Nice comparsion love it
the Pro res looks amazing... doesn't have that oversharpened look we find in all other smartphone cameras
you can turn off sharpness in every single smarthphone existing, except for previous iPhones. Thats why apple decided to introduce prores. Its not a new feature, its something they should have added for a long time. :D
Is it me or is the "standard camera" more stable than the PreRes footage? The standard stuff looked to be super smooth whereas I noticed more movement in the ProRes.
No you're not alone..... I think standard camera looks more stable.
have u campared the colours 🙃
@@rohit3737aao colours can be adjusted using a software but , the mixed frames, stability and stuttering can't be adjusted that much
the dynamic range is just perfect
I get mine this Tuesday and I can’t wait to film off this
It looks like the proress footage is on top underexposed compared to the normal format - Did you do this yourself?
- And there is less digital sharpness in proress which I like!
- What about size, how big is 1min PR footage compared to the normal wrapper?
There are roumors that claim prores 4K 1min equals 8gb of space. That's why this feature not going to allowed on the 128gb version.
@@martinnyakas3085 Not allowed? Bruh u have smokes something 😂
@@mmvipper3197 the 128gb version has pro res limited to 1080p 30fps instead of 4K 30fps on other versions
@@MadinSquaD Yeah it's kinda stupid since I have the 128
@@mmvipper3197 maybe you my friend, cause 4k prores is off limits on 128GB version :D
Wtf! The difference between ProRes and Standard is so big. Anyways it just depends on who is using the camera.
Wow Amazing of photos ❤️
I need this phone! That camera setup looks amazing!
The BIG issue I have with a Pro Workflow with ProRes is the very slow USB 2.0 connection to transfer the huge files. It‘s a step in the right direction, but honestly, the hardware must catch up for a more professional workflow.
what would you choose - making millions on cables or give users comfort of using fast usb3.1 but make no money? :D apple made its choice. telling us they care about nature and stuff )) the only thing they care is amount of money they make
Use USB Type C
Where is this place? Looks awesome, and great footage!
I think Switzerland 🇨🇭
@@TheMrPasul it's not Switzerland, it's Italy!
loved the grade on this ❤
thanks!
Good job，I didn‘t really understand the difference until today.