"It's like a shining light in the dark that guides the listener". Beautifully put: expresses perfectly why I found myself so attracted to ambient/minimal music with electro-acoustic elements. To me the presence of acoustic elements also provides a feeling of "hopeful nostalgia", similar to a flower in the cracks of a concrete pavement.
Hey Hainbach, i'm a subscriber and a fan from Indonesia and i happened to be a Javanese descent (which gamelan mainly came from, there's also Balinese gamelan too). This is a very interesting concept and very inspiring. It would awesome for an Indonesian horror movie to feature fully music using this ambient gamelan concept. Thanks for the ever always amazing contents! Hope this comment finds you well.
The advice given to me by a percussionist friend while i was scoring dance with a similar set up (though with pitched glasses) was to experiment with nontraditional implements: knitting needles and children's ribbed rhythm sticks have been quite successful for my electroacoustic percussion work.
Perhaps what you could try is to get a pedalboard of some kind and attach them there, from there you can put a bunch of speakers (like the 1W mini speakers) and place them underneath the gamelan strips and wire them up in parallel to an output jack. This would hopefully solve your problem with amplifying them without the need for an external microphone and would reduce the chance of feedback immensely. I've done this to my "electronic trash can" which I use for a horror music soundtrack band. I can get deep lows and great fidelity with just a 1W speaker underneath the playing surface, all you need is the speaker, something to attach the speaker to, the wires going from the speaker to the output jack and an output jack. Good luck!
I really love all your work, it always inspires me, all the diverse methods you employ to make amazing dense ambient and minimal music. The mix beteween acoustic/electric/electronic Just amazing 👏👏👏👏👏👏
I love the melodies you come up with in the 'anti-writers-block' configuration. To me it sounds like a Harry Potter soundtrack for a scene where stuff is going wrong very slowly.
Hi Hainbach, I love the portability of the gamelan strips. I wondered if I could make a suggestion on the placing of the foam strips. Ideally, for maximum sustain, you want the foam to be placed at the nodal points of the bar. Typically 22.5% of the length of the bar from each end. This will allow the bar to sing for longer and produce a pure tone. Many thanks for your fine channel, regards, Cmac
I love your perspective on music. I especially love your addition of cassette to electronic to give it a more emotional feel. I attempted to make a DIY tape echo with a Panasonic VSC, but unfortunately it has an auto off function that stops to loop after three cycles. Any advise to bypass it?
Interesting video, we use a 7 toned (pelog) or 5 toned (slendro) tuning system in javanese gamelan and javanese gamelan is made of copper (which is much much heavier). I hardly see them in a western tuning system. You could also try hitting the gamelan with a stick that is covered with leather for a warm(er) sound (that is how we play javanese gamelan).
i assume there are no holes, but... could it be turned into more of a chime configuration? each plate dangling by string from a bar, piezo on bar. there would be mixing, filtering, sympathetic behavior, but possibly nice? imagining holes in 2 corners, a loop of string, hooks on the bar, for easy disassembly. just thinking out loud. enjoy your videos a lot!
HAINBACH understood. i do worry that the plates swinging might make it more difficult to play. so, possibly holes in each corner to allow for some sort of tethering at the bottom? best of luck with it!
Great video as always. I'm so intrigued by Ciat-Lonbarde. I realy want to play with one. Also i think some eurorack effects could work with this setup.
Nice! I just made my first idiophone yesterday. It's a balafon. I put foil on it and it starts doing a triplet horse trot type sound because its suspended and not attached to a solid surface. Try it out, you might like the weird rhythmic resonances.
HAINBACH I can email you a photo if you want to see. It's just tone wood for the individual notes, recycled pallets for the frame, and strings for suspension. It didn't take long at all.
These could work really cool if you played them on the batter head of a floor tom, kind of Eddie Prévost / Chris Corsao style. Especially if you put a contact mic on the batter head. What dimensions are they roughly?
Do you visit Bielefeld often? I wish I'd known you were here! I'd so love to meet up and discuss techniques and ideas... I discovered 'Marimba' only recently and (due to you) bought a Kalimba to use with my new Chase Bliss Mood - so thx!
I want to buy some of these, But the chromatic bars are out of stock. I'm now wondering if Vibraphone bars would work as well. Expensive, but possibly worth it. It would cost me $250 for a what I want. Then I could add octaves and some notes outside of the pentatonic scale, which is what I mostly work in. I love your videos. You are into some really interesting stuff. If you are ever in Baltimore Maryland, you should visit my friend's record store. You would enjoy the fact that there are 3 Ciat Lonbarde machines on the wall behind the counter. They run records through the Cocoquantas sometimes. They also hav e at least one custom machine. Very cool.
@@johndon3782 Then tune them with a grinder? Maybe this could serve as my excuse to finally invest in a Dremel tool. I'm sure there are videos on tuning tone bars on UA-cam. Thanks for the recommendation. I also know some people with workshops who do welding and fabrication.I guess I'd need to find someone with a metal brake also, or will metal shops sell small orders cut to a specific size?
Not so cool, but might work: use cassete tape loops with prerecorded gamelan patterns or looper in Kaosspad mini 2S. It can play loops and one shot samples, +fx. Good option if you need to go as compact as possible.
I'm just curious - so making music for theatre enables you to be a breadwinner? I did an experimentalish music theatre production once (and hopefully will do in the future), but finantially it was laughable :) Ukraine is obviously a completely different landscape for this kind of thing, but I'm curious if this works out for you in Germany?
Been living of this for a decade now. Its a very different system, sponsored by the state. If you are industrious enough you can carve out a living for yourself.
I built an electrric gamelan using steel plates mounted on foam inside a tea tray. I used magnetic guitar pickups rather than mics or piezos. Seemed to work quite well.
Hello Hainbach. I recieved mine, and want to know what kind of foam you glued under the gamelan ? Did you use strong glue ? I don't want to mess that up... Thanks for your time man
Cool but what does it have to do with gamelan? Not the right scale, not the right mallet and not paired. Don’t get me wrong it is an awesome instrument but it is just strange to call this gamelan.
"It's like a shining light in the dark that guides the listener".
Beautifully put: expresses perfectly why I found myself so attracted to ambient/minimal music with electro-acoustic elements. To me the presence of acoustic elements also provides a feeling of "hopeful nostalgia", similar to a flower in the cracks of a concrete pavement.
Agree, the contrast is very productive in evoking emotions.
need these
Hey Hainbach, i'm a subscriber and a fan from Indonesia and i happened to be a Javanese descent (which gamelan mainly came from, there's also Balinese gamelan too). This is a very interesting concept and very inspiring. It would awesome for an Indonesian horror movie to feature fully music using this ambient gamelan concept. Thanks for the ever always amazing contents! Hope this comment finds you well.
The advice given to me by a percussionist friend while i was scoring dance with a similar set up (though with pitched glasses) was to experiment with nontraditional implements: knitting needles and children's ribbed rhythm sticks have been quite successful for my electroacoustic percussion work.
Thank you! I have been looking at everything with a different since I got these :-)
Brilliant. Thank you, Hainbach, for introducing us to the Morfbeats Gamelan Strips.
Perhaps what you could try is to get a pedalboard of some kind and attach them there, from there you can put a bunch of speakers (like the 1W mini speakers) and place them underneath the gamelan strips and wire them up in parallel to an output jack. This would hopefully solve your problem with amplifying them without the need for an external microphone and would reduce the chance of feedback immensely. I've done this to my "electronic trash can" which I use for a horror music soundtrack band. I can get deep lows and great fidelity with just a 1W speaker underneath the playing surface, all you need is the speaker, something to attach the speaker to, the wires going from the speaker to the output jack and an output jack. Good luck!
That is very nice technique! Thank you for sharing that!
absolutely stunning and tasteful music you make Hainbach, love your content
Thank you chatolars!
I really love all your work, it always inspires me, all the diverse methods you employ to make amazing dense ambient and minimal music.
The mix beteween acoustic/electric/electronic
Just amazing 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thank you very much! Inspiring others is a beautiful thing to me.
excellent lesson, Professor Hainbach
nice to come back after vacation to your beautiful music
Nice to see your setup in detail, i like the way you describe your music, we can feel the passion 😌
I love the melodies you come up with in the 'anti-writers-block' configuration. To me it sounds like a Harry Potter soundtrack for a scene where stuff is going wrong very slowly.
That is a nice association.
Hi Hainbach, I love the portability of the gamelan strips. I wondered if I could make a suggestion on the placing of the foam strips. Ideally, for maximum sustain, you want the foam to be placed at the nodal points of the bar. Typically 22.5% of the length of the bar from each end. This will allow the bar to sing for longer and produce a pure tone. Many thanks for your fine channel, regards, Cmac
Thank you for that!
love your work man!!
Hi really great as always looking forward to your visit to the UK ,if you could only have two modules what would you start with ? Please, blessed be
Cwejman RES-4 and Maths.
Many thanks my friend , blessed be
I love your perspective on music. I especially love your addition of cassette to electronic to give it a more emotional feel. I attempted to make a DIY tape echo with a Panasonic VSC, but unfortunately it has an auto off function that stops to loop after three cycles. Any advise to bypass it?
Thank you! I never heard off an auto-off, so I can't be of help. Scott Campbell is someone to ask though.
Interesting video, we use a 7 toned (pelog) or 5 toned (slendro) tuning system in javanese gamelan and javanese gamelan is made of copper (which is much much heavier). I hardly see them in a western tuning system. You could also try hitting the gamelan with a stick that is covered with leather for a warm(er) sound (that is how we play javanese gamelan).
since each note is effectively its own instrument these would be a great way to teach scales & modes.
i assume there are no holes, but... could it be turned into more of a chime configuration? each plate dangling by string from a bar, piezo on bar. there would be mixing, filtering, sympathetic behavior, but possibly nice? imagining holes in 2 corners, a loop of string, hooks on the bar, for easy disassembly. just thinking out loud. enjoy your videos a lot!
Ed, that is some good thinking! No holes unfortunately, and if I were to drill them myself it would mess up the tuning. But I wiill talk to Adam.
HAINBACH understood. i do worry that the plates swinging might make it more difficult to play. so, possibly holes in each corner to allow for some sort of tethering at the bottom? best of luck with it!
Hi, great videos!
I really enjoy your videos :)
Could you buy that in germany or did you buy that in america?
USA, morfbeats.com
Great video as always. I'm so intrigued by Ciat-Lonbarde. I realy want to play with one. Also i think some eurorack effects could work with this setup.
A little box of Folktek would be lovely.
HAINBACH Oh, yes, Folktek is nice and weird.
Nice! I just made my first idiophone yesterday. It's a balafon. I put foil on it and it starts doing a triplet horse trot type sound because its suspended and not attached to a solid surface. Try it out, you might like the weird rhythmic resonances.
I do like weired rhythmic resonances! Will look up on balafons - I can't remember what they are.
Ah, my friend Darrin has a Balafon, awesome deep sound! How did you built yours?
HAINBACH I can email you a photo if you want to see. It's just tone wood for the individual notes, recycled pallets for the frame, and strings for suspension. It didn't take long at all.
Sure, would love to see! Hainbach101 at Gmail.com
These could work really cool if you played them on the batter head of a floor tom, kind of Eddie Prévost / Chris Corsao style. Especially if you put a contact mic on the batter head. What dimensions are they roughly?
Do you visit Bielefeld often? I wish I'd known you were here! I'd so love to meet up and discuss techniques and ideas... I discovered 'Marimba' only recently and (due to you) bought a Kalimba to use with my new Chase Bliss Mood - so thx!
I come there for theatre work regularly. Probably next year again!
Love the creepiness that the tinfoil gives to the sound. Gives me a kind of horror movie VHS vibe.
I want to buy some of these, But the chromatic bars are out of stock. I'm now wondering if Vibraphone bars would work as well. Expensive, but possibly worth it. It would cost me $250 for a what I want. Then I could add octaves and some notes outside of the pentatonic scale, which is what I mostly work in.
I love your videos. You are into some really interesting stuff. If you are ever in Baltimore Maryland, you should visit my friend's record store. You would enjoy the fact that there are 3 Ciat Lonbarde machines on the wall behind the counter. They run records through the Cocoquantas sometimes. They also hav e at least one custom machine. Very cool.
Only the gamelan sounds so melancholic, I would wait until it's available again.
Just buy some strips of 1/8 inch Diamond stud steel plate
@@johndon3782 Then tune them with a grinder? Maybe this could serve as my excuse to finally invest in a Dremel tool.
I'm sure there are videos on tuning tone bars on UA-cam. Thanks for the recommendation. I also know some people with workshops who do welding and fabrication.I guess I'd need to find someone with a metal brake also, or will metal shops sell small orders cut to a specific size?
Have you made any compositions for film? I would love to see your work paired with moving images.
This is the most recent - moserfilm.com More to come next year!
What a lovely setup! What microphone are you using there (the one plugged into the Cocoquantus)?
It’s a sennheiser md-21. Its a bit pricey in the states if that’s where you’re from, but since It’s omnidirectional, any mic in that style would do
Could someone please type out the names of those wooden devices Hainbach is using? :]
C O C O Q U A N T U S and S I D R A X :-)
You're a gent HAINBACH... thanks :]
For a live setup would putting the Gamelan strips on a baking sheet with a contact mic work? They might resonate a bit much.
I have to try!
The foil made amazing soundscapes with those. You would do well with the Resonant Garden by Folktek.
Yeah, the new one looks extra-brilliant. I love the sound of the FX on these.
I want to do film scores with electronic music can you do a tutorial on that it would be great
Very nice! Where can I buy these?
Thank you! Morfbeats.com
Which mic do you use with Coco, sir? I wonder because of the direction of the mic on the coco.
MD21 omni
wooow, amazing instruments and sounds. great video!!!
très belle démo
Not so cool, but might work: use cassete tape loops with prerecorded gamelan patterns or looper in Kaosspad mini 2S. It can play loops and one shot samples, +fx. Good option if you need to go as compact as possible.
Yeah, looping is always a possibillity, I agree. I would probably use the OP1 and create little overlapping loops in there.
I'm just curious - so making music for theatre enables you to be a breadwinner? I did an experimentalish music theatre production once (and hopefully will do in the future), but finantially it was laughable :) Ukraine is obviously a completely different landscape for this kind of thing, but I'm curious if this works out for you in Germany?
Been living of this for a decade now. Its a very different system, sponsored by the state. If you are industrious enough you can carve out a living for yourself.
Can’t wait until I get abelton and my midi controller
I built an electrric gamelan using steel plates mounted on foam inside a tea tray. I used magnetic guitar pickups rather than mics or piezos. Seemed to work quite well.
Hello, did you use the High Octave Chromatic Gamelan or the classic ones ? Thanks
High ones!
Thanks. Ordered !
Hello Hainbach. I recieved mine, and want to know what kind of foam you glued under the gamelan ? Did you use strong glue ? I don't want to mess that up... Thanks for your time man
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no answer? I‘m searching too
The sound reminds me of Cylob's "mood bells" ua-cam.com/play/PLZBQ5U70ekuG2ePkJM_WR2Zz_1ZfvXkTT.html (not the first track in the playlist though)
Since they are steel you could use guitar pickups. You could mount them in a hinged wooden panel, so everything will fold up and be protected.
Cool but what does it have to do with gamelan? Not the right scale, not the right mallet and not paired. Don’t get me wrong it is an awesome instrument but it is just strange to call this gamelan.
You got to ask Adam, I did not give it that name.
Freky synths