That happened to me once. I was in my 279 when a Type 89 was shooting me in the front with the 35mm. One shell hit the optic in front of the commander cupola which somehow killed all my crew in the turret.
I mean jeeps are terrible idea given that crew is totally exposed. I dunno about their vehicle performance. But even if they're added. Not complaining. Finally my 7.7 mms can have more use in battle.
@@kayagorzan I don't mind the Breda as it has a pretty powerful high velocity gun with good penetration. Chi-Ha Long Gun however? I'm not too in support of. Initially I was in support of it as in the dev server 1 it had 50 mm penetrating HE and high velocity. But now since its 60 mm penetrating Shrapnel shot, I no longer support it. Shrapnel shots are so much more useless than HE. The recoilless rifles uses chemical rounds and low velocity so as to not destroy the vehicle with recoil. So either it would be usually pretty useless (unless its hella fast like R3 and FIAT because I don't know jeep performance) because at a technology appropriate BR, it might be useless since u gotta get close enough to use the cannon effectively which will result in unprotected men getting MG'ed. Atleast R3 and FIAT recoilless were on the chassis designed for them so they might have a faster shell. But anyway as I was saying, if they are put at lower BR HESH will destroy everything. HESH is only effective upto 6.7 italy and the only reason for that is because they don't face King Tigers. I found the HESH I unlocked in 7.7 UK tanks pretty useless because 70% of the enemies are King Tigers. And even then running HESH on 6.3 FIAT is pretty risky due to the chance of being able to face T34 and Super Pershings. Damn, only if they didn't nerf the HESH.
Why is everyone just focusing on modern vehicles? Gaijin hasn't even added some iconic WW2 era vehicles such as: Stug IV Marder I and II Pz. II J Luchs Fairey Barracuda T17E1 Staghound There is a huge gap in the French tree that should be filled in (between 3.7 and 4.7 there is literally nothing. Not premium and definetly not in the standard tree). I know that War Thunder has to move on, but even though modern vehicles are the future we have to look at what the game is missing/lacking for new players/low tier players and that includes WW2 era tanks, planes and (for the love of god) even ships (that everyone kinda forgot about). So maybe the next video could cover some WW2 era stuff, that'd be appreciated.
The T17E1 is in the game. it was an event vehicle forever ago and you literally cannot get it anymore. Its not on the store or available for trade on the market. As a freeaboo who likes armored cars the US is horribly lacking. Made worse by the Market only M8 that you can just get as reserve for Chyna. Yea,a well known US armored car you have to pay like $80 on the market or play China to use. Because that makes sense.
I wouldn't hurt if they added the Pz. II Luchs to the main German tree, and maybe place it at least above the Sd. Kfz. 234/2, or armed variants of the Sd. Kfz. 251, especially the /21 and /22
If we're talking about Israeli Shermans, I'd like to see the M-51 Super Sherman, which was armed with a modified version of the French F1 canon found on the AMX 30
The Italian M16/43, a prototype cruiser tank meant to combat the British cruisers. It would have the same turret and gun as the M13/40 and same armour, yet the armour would be sloped and the tank would be faster. Maybe a 2.0?
actually its turret had a 47/40 and thus is closer to the M15/42 turret, the armour was 30mm sloped and it had a speed of 60km/h, its a tracked more survivable AB43 or a faster M15/42 and thus 2.3-2.7 (2.7 because its a faster T-50, its armour is thinner but more slopped)
In my opinion, the family of the Italian P43s should be added. Practically they are 3 tank following the P26 / 40 already present in War Thunder. In fact, they would represent a way to fill the gaps in the Italian tech tree between era 3 and era 4. Now it seems right to talk about the 3 variants of the P43: P30/43: First version of this model, it represents a step forward compared to P26/40. It is armed with a 75/34 cannon and its front armor varies between 80 and 100 mm. Furthermore, the armor is not bolted but welded. It could be placed as the first heavy tank of the Italian tech tree at a BR of 4.3 / 4.7 and could be a valid opponent for KV 1. P30/43 bis: Second version of the P43, it has a hull shape similar to the Panther and mounts a lightened version of the Italian 90 mm piece (90/42 mm). The engine is the same as the predecessor and would guarantee a maximum speed of 40 km / h (like that of the P30 / 43). Furthermore, its already quite thick frontal armor (80/100 mm) is inclined at 45 °.This would allow him to reach high protection values and to become a worthy opponent of the Jumbo. It could be placed between a BR of 4.7 / 5.3 and it too would be classified as a Heavy Tank. P35/40: Final version of the P43, the hull is identical to the P43 bis, the only things that change are the cannon and the engine. In fact the cannon is a 90/53 mm, that with the study of gun-specific AP ammunition could reach penetration values around 190/220 mm at 10 m. While the engine is a copy of that of the Russian T34, and would allow him to reach a top speed of 50 km/h. In my opinion it is a tank to be placed between the BR 5.7 and 6.3, and which could be a heavy tank capable of facing even the IS 2. Obviously then there would also be various German tanks to add to the Italian Tech Tree such as: Panzer III N, Stug III, Panzer IV G and also the Panther, since the necessary information was given to the Italian government for licensed production. And anyway even if it weren't so it would be much better than seeing every tech tree fill up with American tanks. PS: Various design schemes of P35/43 have been found with mounted on: 102 mm and 120 mm guns. Ah I almost forgot, according to the mechanics of War Thunder, the 90/42 cannon could be compared to the first versions of the German 88 mm (mounted on the Tiger H1 and E), while the cannon 90/53 mm could be compared to the latest German 88 versions (the one mounted on the Tiger II). Finally, I would like to thank anyone who has come this far to read this long article. Thanks so much.
I like the idea of more Italian vehicles, but I dont want more lend lease in my Italian tree. We already have too many US tanks. I dont want german tanks added to Italy.
@@joshuacochrane8842 you are right, but I have only proposed ideas. because I think it makes more sense (if the gaijin wants to add other vehicles from other countries) to add German vehicles than American ones.
@@bigbully1277 no, the German vehicles in my opinion should be added only if the gaijin wanted to add others lend lease vehicles. Since it makes more sense to add German vehicles than American ones
It would probably only be 1.7 to 2.3. From what I’ve read the fuses for the HEAT shells never seemed to work. The reload is also quite long. But yes I agree. It should be in game. Either in the Soviet Tree or the Swedish Tree. I say Soviet because it’s a BT tank, and Sweden because they already have Finnish vehicles
@@raptor2-40delta2 italy isnt lacking anything. the fucking tier 3 R3 could be easily used as IFV with its too good 20mm. Germany on the other hand misses its Wiesel or Marder IFV since ages lol
Artjom Гартманн lol stfu Italy lacks shit tons of vehicles between 5.0 and 6.0 and also an ifv at 8.3, that is the Dardo.. if you get killed with the Oto R3 with only 50mm of pen the only thing I have to say is git gud
Listening to the segment about what we now know as the ELC Bis (AMX ELC) and how he said Gaijin would probably give it a fully rotatable turret is very funny to me
@@heliogonzalezsanchez8227 the turrets are completely different, for example im pretty sure the egyptian T34-122 holds a 122 howitzer instead of a tank cannon
@@mixderman2461 The T-100 and T-122 aren't the same thing as the T-34/100. The turrets are completely different, and a lot more angular. Also they use completely different guns than the T-34/100's gun (BS-3 100mm AT gun for the T-100, D-30 122mm howitzer for the T-122).
It would be an odd addition, my guess would be 6.7-7.7, mainly because while it's far more survivable than the AUBL it's mobility is a lot worse, only better than the heavies at that BR. And while it's penetration is good it's damage is lackluster due to its low calibre and would struggle to kill many tanks in less than 3 hits, save for the Russians which the Americans often play with at the higher BRs
I made a model of that on 1/35 scale by scratch building the upgrade bits onto it while restoring an old Chafee kit I did a long time ago! It's one of my favourites I've done!
@@judedeschamps2369 im pretty sure the chaffe would be the same BR as the AUBL since it uses the same 60mm HVG maybe a little bit powerfull engine then the original m24 chaffe? But thats basically it.
@@xxxnoscoper360xxx6 maybe, but I doubt it. The chaffee weighs a full 10 tons more than the AUBL, while it has a more power engine, it has much worse mobility than the AUBL and all other MBTs at that BR bracket, only exception being the British. The chaffee beats the auble in only the survivability category, which doesn't mean much since the IFVs will shred the chaffee with auto cannon fire just like they do the AUBL
Maybe make a list of tanks that should be added into the game, but focus on the WW2 era. There are still some good stuff that could be added (event or not) like the StuG IV or other Marder models, the soviet A-20, the Centaur, the Cavalier, the Covenanter...
3:55 "[The ELC] obviously wouldn't be able to take any hits." Well obviously you've never played World of Tanks where the AMX ELC could randomly bounce rounds because why the hell not?
Well, I don't think France need another obscure 50s light tank. They litteraly developped dozen of prototypes of this concept during the period, with generally the same characteristics: high HP/tons, autoloaded 90mm, reduced crew, mobility over armor, etc, etc... IMO, something really enjoyable would be to developp the AMX-10 RC branch, which is one of the classical french tank of the 80s. Firstly, a "generic" improved one would be cool (the 90s seen upgrade based on IR/upgraded fire-control and complementary armor to sustain light autocannons shots), not too overpowered. For premium, some promising prototypes were tested during the 80-90s, including one with a stabilised quickfiring 90mm, so something relatively close to the italian ones you quoted here, and another with a Sabre dual-30mm AA turrets.
As an premium tank for German tree: 7TP, as Wehrmacht was using some after conquering Poland. Other would be PT-91 as a premium in some non soviet nation, as we don't have Polish tree, and some T-72ish vechicle, esspecially one that was the best variant of it for a long time, in other tree than Soviet would be nice.
One tank I always thought about was the Strv Krv. A lot of people have been talking about adding the Kranvagn, but that probably won’t happen since it wasn’t complete. But to does seem like a similar situation to the E-100, where it had a planned Turret which was never built. Instead the E-100 has the Maus Turret in game. Similarly, the Strv Krv was a plan to mount cenutrion mk10 turrets on the Kranvagn hull. This would give it an almost impenetrable hull, even if the turret is easy to pen. Even if the armor was crap, the turret mounted on the Kranvagn hull would be much faster than a regular centurion. And since it’s a similar situation to the E-100, the Strv Krv could probably be added into war thunder. Just a quick idea as well, the Swedes technically had armored cars, such as the l180 and the Pansarbil m/39 or “Lynx” Sweden technically used them and they made about 30 of each, so I don’t see an issue it’s having them.
Anything for germany? I would personally love to see FW-190 with a torpedo (there were a few versions if I remember correctly). PaK 40 RSO would be really ncie, small and light vehicle with a really good gun. Also Marder IFV would be nice because bagelpanzer doesn't do well at higher br.
On one hand RSO with PaK40 would be interesting, I doubt in its ability to be even remotely effective (very poor mobility, recoil handling similar or even worse than ZiS-30 or M56 Scorpion and no armour)
@@Jfk2Mr Depends at what br it would have. I expect around 3.0 since there is pak puma nad Marder III H. Maybe even 2.7 because of its complete lack of armor.
I'm glad you spotlighted CLAWS Humvee. With the addition of radar missiles getting added in I could definitely see it added in, hopefully CAS will finally have a reason to fear the ground once again.
Spookston do you know that the South African forces in WW2 had a Jumbo Firefly? It's basically a Firefly turret on a M4A3E2 Jumbo Hull which makes it literally the Assault/Breakthrough Tank of the British
I actually do not support any more small trees bc they are mostly just copy+paste and don't come up to what people want. I personally would love to see the SK-105 in game but in my opinion it rather fits into the french tree (it has an oscilating turret, wich just fits with the theme of french tanks don't judge me)
3:00 the ELC was for reconnaissance divisions. The 90mm is there for the same reason as the Hellcat, so they can deal with running into armour. It wasn't meant to engage vehicals, unless it needed to. Such as performing a delaying action, until bigger tanks, or less mobile parts of a unit arrive to support. Yes, the turret is limited to a 90° arc because of the breach gets in the way. The turret can be swung back, to aline the breach with the loading mechanism's ram.
Spookston, you should talk about the M60-2000 in the next video about tanks that should be added. It was a project by the General Dynamics Land Systems to add a M1A1 turret onto a M60 hull to sell to other countries as a cheaper alternative to buying a new MBT. I would like to see it added as a US event tank with a BR of maybe 9.3 or 9.7
France is currently the only nation in the game without a conventional IFV (guns and missiles), while Sweden that was added 6 months ago already has 3 IFV which one being conventional . SO I propose to add the EBRC Jaguar to the game, it is extremely modern being put into service in 2020 but since we are seeing now MBTs with classified armor from 2016 added to the game, an IFV that doesn't have great armor to begin with could come to the game without powercreeping, we also have an equivalent already in the game being the Strf 9056 since they basically use the same gun and both have deployable ATGM launcher .
since gaijin did add a turkish vehicle (M-60 AMBT) i think they can add some turkish vehicles Tulpar-s Altay Leopard 2A4NG M-60 E (why not add a one more m60) Korhan Cobra Tow Acv-40 Korkut
Power to weight ratio is typically measures as killawatt/kilograms or horsepower/weight mass and weight are also different. What you are referring to as p/w is just the HP per tonne
M1A2SEPv3. Since they already gave the abrams a shitty hand with the MBTs the M1A2SEPv3 would correct such issues. Probably be the first 11.0+ vehicle.
The current M1A2 is modelled like a SEPv2, if I'm not mistaken, as it has an extra rack on the back of the turret. Yet, it has none of the features a SEPv2 would have.
Osorio EE-T 1, there was even a discussion in the forum about Osorio forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/387105-prototypes-of-engesa-os%C3%B3rio-ee-t1-os%C3%B3rio-ee-t-2/
Don't forget that the Avenger ADS can also be equipped with Hellfire ATGM's and unguided rocket pods. So it's not just limited to an Anti Air role. I'm going to the National Guard, I leave for boot camp soon, I was originally gonna be a 14 x-ray which would have seen me maintaining the Avengers ADS system but I didn't get it because of how my MEPS center just refused to cooperate with my Recruiter, so it ended up dragging out and I lost that job.
I'd really like to see the FV215 project. for those familiar with WoT, it's what they call the FV215b (183) in-game. it was a British Heavy Gun Tank developed on the basis of the FV214 Universal chasis by around 1955/56 to deal with soviet heavy armour like the IS3. the FV4005 and FV4004 "Conway" are two tanks that came from the same programme
The AMX ELC bis is a legend in world of tanks blitz. In my opinion at least. I was excited seeing it here because I thought no one would mention. Also, now that you mentioned that it had a 90mm canon, the thing should be a lot strong in blitz. Doubt they’ll change it though.
Proper armored cars thinks like humvees and BTR’s like the BTR-80 and a few other machines across various nations, There so many variations and vehicles to add to trees. They wouldn’t serve much as anti tank but can preform amazingly well in scout/antiair. Some of said armored cars like the Humvees were even fitted with Anti Tank guided missiles. So I think you can see why this is such an eye catcher for me.. I was inspired to start a small list if vehicles that should be added that has nothing to do with the doc that *Reddit has made* and do my own research on my own time as I find it fun to find out about new vehicles and more!!
@@Jfk2Mr like, 60 mm mortar? i'd like to see that. I'm not sure its practical use, but I guess it makes sense since you wouldn't won't the motorcycle in danger.
Though I know not a tank, the RAH-66 Comanche would be a great helicopter to add. Make it where it is almost "immune" to radar, reduced laser guidance effectiveness, and infrared effectiveness; however, these features only apply when the weapons bays are closed and/or has no externally mounted weapons. The external mounts are going to be, of course, an upgrade as well as whatever missiles/rockets the weapons bay holds. Now the whole almost "immune" to basically computer guidance seems a bit much (ofc there is manual aiming), but all that means is that it only has its 20mm available, as soon as it's weapons bay opens up the "immunity" is reduced by a formidable margin and with external mounts...even more so.
Knowing how event vehicles work, instead we will get some mass produced vehicle or variant that should've been added to the tech tree years ago and would perfectly fill an existing gap.
The Avenger Humvee has been on my War Thunder wish list for quite a while now. I found it strange that the Japanese got the Type 93 but the US didn't get the Avenger since the only difference was the additional M3P HMG for close-in defense where the missiles would be ineffective.
Tbh I want some sort of sub-reserve tier that you unlock after to tier 2 or something. Like WW1 era tanks and armored vehicles like landships, FTs and it's foreign copies, A7Vs, armored cars, etc.
I want two things from Gaijin: 1) The Panzer 61/68/88 that was one of the few tanks that Switzerland made itself. It wasn't anything special, not at all but as a swiss tanker I've heard from people that the gun was really accurate, even more accurate than the Leopard 2A4's with which we replaced the Panzer 68/88. It couldn't fire on the move though and it has a bunch of problems that didn't have to do with fighting itself but just crew discomfort things and systems shutting down for no reason. I'd really happy if Gaijin added that, probably german tech tree, though I could see swedish because of neutrality reasons. 2) Silent Thunder. I actually enjoyed that event quite a lot and I'd love to see it return
As for premiums I am blank. But standard Tech Tree. M4A3 Sherman. The Army's workhorse. Usually the first Sherman people come by, being produced in large quantities. And it would be a more logical Sherman in the US tree than the M4A2(and if 76mm variant is added, replaces A2 76 since US never used it operationally)
oh my fucking god, the ELC AMX. I can imagine what havoc it will bring into WT I experienced it in WoT, what a hated yet loved machine. small, but the design permit the 90mm gun
How about a paper tank event? Where the event vehicle is the FV215b 183 , the O-Ni/ Type 5 Heavy, Lowe, maybe even the Jagdpanzer e100 if we wanna push it. The grind for these vehicles would be easy, but you only would have them for a certain amount of time.
i have a few suggestions to the swedish tech tree with foregin vehicles 1: CV9030 - 30mm auto cannon version of the Strv90. Lighter vehicle but more ammunition. Modern ammo has about 150mm apfsds penetration at 1000m and no less then 130mm at 1000m. Is operated by multiple contries. 2: CV9035 - 35mm auto cannon version. As the 35mm is already ingame some stats can be borrowed. Does not have the same rate of fire as the anti air ones but in return has better armor piercing rounds 3: NM135 - Norwegian M113 with a 20mm auto cannon on a rotating turret, variant with TOW is also avaliable 4: NM-116 - Norwegian upgraded M24 chaffe for recon and flanking. Has a 90mm french low velocity gun ment for HEAT and HE. So would be simmilar to the RU251 5: Leopard 1 A5NO - Norwegian Leopard 1, Would be more or less the same as the A1A1 but suggested difference would be mobility upgrade and better stabilizer, particulary groucers for better traction. Leo1 in general is alittle nerfed in mobility imo. Bonus vehicle: BV206 with RBS70 anti air missile on the rear track. Mostly a proof of concept vehicle irl. Usualy it would rather be used to transport and supply the RBS70 instead of having it mounted on the rear. PS: The NM-116 apparently has a lower top speed but better terrain mobility then the original M24 after changing to a turbo diesel engine. Also the .50 cal is a recycled M3 variant from previously owned Sabres. So higher rate of fire then usual .50 cals for ground vehicles.
Merkava Mk4M. Also M1A2 Tusk with Trophy installed. If they want to go more current they are going to be getting into the realm of active protection systems anyway so Merkava and M1 could be the introduction to them since they are the first and second tanks of their type to include it that I am aware of.
@the baron Maybe. But they haven't been speaking at length about the Ukraine in general. So it could also just be their other tactic. "Don't talk about it and it doesn't exist."
I would personally like to see some of the more wacky Proto Vehicles like the bdr g1b, or some of the proposed tank destroyers like the Valentine gun carrier which is basically a forward-facing support Howitzer version of a valentine, or something like the Harry Hopkins or alecto gun tractor.
Another couple of things I'd like to see is the Bison one which was basically the Shawn Panzer model one which was a field Howitzer basically rolled up onto a tarantula spans or one with a foldable Case-Mate, the Martyr to because I think that's definitely something that could be here considering it's one of the more common German anti-tank vehicles, the waspe SPG maybe even the UE 57 which is kind of a more odd vehicle, something from Renault be at the ft-17 one of them modernize variants one of the variance from several of the other countries that adopted it, perhaps the original Vickers 6-ton tank that the British allowed for export that came with the short barrel 47 m m Vickers gun, the BTS V which I would love love love to see, the Panzer 2 J because why not, I don't know if they've added the Excelsior, the Valiant perhaps some of the British Mark tanks with the 50 caliber or 15 mm Besa autocannon upgrades or the Mark II medium. Another one I would like to see is the Panzer 2 luchs modification
I think if we are talking about event vehicles my suggestion would be the Borgward IV Ausf. B mit Raketenbüchsen. It would be a fun evant tank and nothing more
Maybe the T77 Multiple .50 caliber Gun Motor Carriage, which has the chassis of an m24, but I couldn't find much on it. It was a prototype American SPAAG with 4 50cals.
FV101 Scorpion, this LT is long requested yet havent seen a daylight, 90mm gun, 80km of on road speed, armour that can stand 12.7 or .50 shot. (You know this). This tank saw adoption in lotta countries, and quite a UK top export. Yet WT dev pretend never saw it, and went on with mystical stuff (exist in blueprint only or not even produced yet). Another one is a variant of PT-76 with ATGM, 90mm gun, .50cal HMG, better engine that can snuggly fit in tier 7.7 or 8.0
Id love to see the Sdfkz 222 cause they already have the body and the turret ingame. It would be a great fun machine maybe buffing up its battlerating to that of the puma with the 2cm
Did spookston just kill a obj 279 with a 35mm Oerlikon
The turret ring is worth 1mm so it happens all the time
That happened to me once. I was in my 279 when a Type 89 was shooting me in the front with the 35mm. One shell hit the optic in front of the commander cupola which somehow killed all my crew in the turret.
With the new update coming in that wont happen any more lol. Volumetric shells will prevent people from using 1 pixel weakspots like this lol.
@@PilotTed yeah, thankfully
@@lukemiller8282 hopefully*
I want a soviet soldier sitting on a bike, who can throw anti tanks grenades.
S ame
Or german guy on a bike with panzerfaust
I want two guys in a bush with a dog in a suicide vest. 50% chance it goes after a tank, 50% chance it turns around and blows up the handlers.
@@Rampant16 Very Honoraburu
i want a kettenkrad with a loli in the back using a type 38 rifle
Tons of requests for low tier vehicles like Jeep's with recoilless rifles: exist
Spookston only doing top tier: I'm going to pretend I didn't see that
Or 37mm Jeep
@@arya31ful Jeep's in general
I mean jeeps are terrible idea given that crew is totally exposed. I dunno about their vehicle performance. But even if they're added. Not complaining. Finally my 7.7 mms can have more use in battle.
@Bravo Mike I mean the Breda at 4.0 is super exposed
And the coming Chi-ha long gun will be super exposed
@@kayagorzan I don't mind the Breda as it has a pretty powerful high velocity gun with good penetration.
Chi-Ha Long Gun however? I'm not too in support of. Initially I was in support of it as in the dev server 1 it had 50 mm penetrating HE and high velocity. But now since its 60 mm penetrating Shrapnel shot, I no longer support it. Shrapnel shots are so much more useless than HE.
The recoilless rifles uses chemical rounds and low velocity so as to not destroy the vehicle with recoil. So either it would be usually pretty useless (unless its hella fast like R3 and FIAT because I don't know jeep performance) because at a technology appropriate BR, it might be useless since u gotta get close enough to use the cannon effectively which will result in unprotected men getting MG'ed. Atleast R3 and FIAT recoilless were on the chassis designed for them so they might have a faster shell.
But anyway as I was saying, if they are put at lower BR HESH will destroy everything. HESH is only effective upto 6.7 italy and the only reason for that is because they don't face King Tigers. I found the HESH I unlocked in 7.7 UK tanks pretty useless because 70% of the enemies are King Tigers. And even then running HESH on 6.3 FIAT is pretty risky due to the chance of being able to face T34 and Super Pershings. Damn, only if they didn't nerf the HESH.
I’d love to see a Churchill AVRE as a low tier event Vehicle or low tier premium
That thing has like 80m of firing range from what I heard. Pretty much completely useless against other tanks.
@@bahnspotterEU lol, not if it got a direct hit. It's said it could flatten bunkers
@@bahnspotterEU I just want it for Memeing on R3's. Like imagine this little road mouse rocks up to an HE round the size of it
Launch the flying dustbins
But the reload doesn't make it practical, the gun had to be above the radio operator who loaded the shell from his position
Why is everyone just focusing on modern vehicles? Gaijin hasn't even added some iconic WW2 era vehicles such as:
Stug IV
Marder I and II
Pz. II J Luchs
Fairey Barracuda
T17E1 Staghound
There is a huge gap in the French tree that should be filled in (between 3.7 and 4.7 there is literally nothing. Not premium and definetly not in the standard tree).
I know that War Thunder has to move on, but even though modern vehicles are the future we have to look at what the game is missing/lacking for new players/low tier players and that includes WW2 era tanks, planes and (for the love of god) even ships (that everyone kinda forgot about).
So maybe the next video could cover some WW2 era stuff, that'd be appreciated.
The T17E1 is in the game. it was an event vehicle forever ago and you literally cannot get it anymore. Its not on the store or available for trade on the market. As a freeaboo who likes armored cars the US is horribly lacking. Made worse by the Market only M8 that you can just get as reserve for Chyna. Yea,a well known US armored car you have to pay like $80 on the market or play China to use. Because that makes sense.
@@dixieduffy7 that is the AEC MK II
@@valentindio2661 ah I was thinking of the US T18E1.
#Gaijindoesn'tcareaboutlowtierorph-unjustmoney
StuG IV is basically a StuG III with Panzer IV hull.
Marders are basically the same.
Panzer II Luchs are very similar to other Panzer II in the game.
I wasn’t even aware of a War Thunder II.
most of us still play in War Thunder I while Spookton already in War Thunder III
A. F. A. He is 2 War Thunder’s ahead of us
Bruh I already have War Thunder IV
@@abdurrahmanf.a.5624 if this game realistic metal and rescource number detailed real life feature
Wonder how people play warthunder III
I wouldn't hurt if they added the Pz. II Luchs to the main German tree, and maybe place it at least above the Sd. Kfz. 234/2, or armed variants of the Sd. Kfz. 251, especially the /21 and /22
Luchs gang
Yeah boi
Hmm the armor is too much for low tier and the gun too weak for higher
The Ratte would also be a nice Idee...
They cant balance that shit they are still suggesting it on forum since 2014
If we're talking about Israeli Shermans, I'd like to see the M-51 Super Sherman, which was armed with a modified version of the French F1 canon found on the AMX 30
yes i would love to see the Isherman M-51
+1
Yeah, we already have the M-50 so why not the M-51
@@Maximilian7992 M-50? Where is it?
Phantom Aviator it’s the M4A4 (SA50)
I'd actual love to see the Super Shermans in War Thunder (the one with the French 105 and the the one with the 60mm gun)
The Italian M16/43, a prototype cruiser tank meant to combat the British cruisers. It would have the same turret and gun as the M13/40 and same armour, yet the armour would be sloped and the tank would be faster. Maybe a 2.0?
yeah i want see more italian vehicle
Is that the Italian Crusader clone?
actually its turret had a 47/40 and thus is closer to the M15/42 turret, the armour was 30mm sloped and it had a speed of 60km/h, its a tracked more survivable AB43 or a faster M15/42 and thus 2.3-2.7 (2.7 because its a faster T-50, its armour is thinner but more slopped)
I was using the caliber of the gun not the actual model but yep u right.
In my opinion, the family of the Italian P43s should be added. Practically they are 3 tank following the P26 / 40 already present in War Thunder. In fact, they would represent a way to fill the gaps in the Italian tech tree between era 3 and era 4.
Now it seems right to talk about the 3 variants of the P43:
P30/43: First version of this model, it represents a step forward compared to P26/40. It is armed with a 75/34 cannon and its front armor varies between 80 and 100 mm. Furthermore, the armor is not bolted but welded. It could be placed as the first heavy tank of the Italian tech tree at a BR of 4.3 / 4.7 and could be a valid opponent for KV 1.
P30/43 bis: Second version of the P43, it has a hull shape similar to the Panther and mounts a lightened version of the Italian 90 mm piece (90/42 mm). The engine is the same as the predecessor and would guarantee a maximum speed of 40 km / h (like that of the P30 / 43). Furthermore, its already quite thick frontal armor (80/100 mm) is inclined at 45 °.This would allow him to reach high protection values and to become a worthy opponent of the Jumbo. It could be placed between a BR of 4.7 / 5.3 and it too would be classified as a Heavy Tank.
P35/40: Final version of the P43, the hull is identical to the P43 bis, the only things that change are the cannon and the engine. In fact the cannon is a 90/53 mm, that with the study of gun-specific AP ammunition could reach penetration values around 190/220 mm at 10 m. While the engine is a copy of that of the Russian T34, and would allow him to reach a top speed of 50 km/h. In my opinion it is a tank to be placed between the BR 5.7 and 6.3, and which could be a heavy tank capable of facing even the IS 2.
Obviously then there would also be various German tanks to add to the Italian Tech Tree such as: Panzer III N, Stug III, Panzer IV G and also the Panther, since the necessary information was given to the Italian government for licensed production. And anyway even if it weren't so it would be much better than seeing every tech tree fill up with American tanks.
PS: Various design schemes of P35/43 have been found with mounted on: 102 mm and 120 mm guns. Ah I almost forgot, according to the mechanics of War Thunder, the 90/42 cannon could be compared to the first versions of the German 88 mm (mounted on the Tiger H1 and E), while the cannon 90/53 mm could be compared to the latest German 88 versions (the one mounted on the Tiger II).
Finally, I would like to thank anyone who has come this far to read this long article. Thanks so much.
I like the idea of more Italian vehicles, but I dont want more lend lease in my Italian tree. We already have too many US tanks. I dont want german tanks added to Italy.
No I think you mean add more non Italian tanks into italy
@@joshuacochrane8842 you are right, but I have only proposed ideas. because I think it makes more sense (if the gaijin wants to add other vehicles from other countries) to add German vehicles than American ones.
@@bigbully1277 no, the German vehicles in my opinion should be added only if the gaijin wanted to add others lend lease vehicles. Since it makes more sense to add German vehicles than American ones
@@bigbully1277 you moroon he name only all italian tanks
add the Finnish BT-42, because it would be kind of interesting to get it to war thunder.
*Polka intensifies*
Yes
@@mixderman2461 you just want it because it was in gup
@@KingSpittusFactus Yes, and derp. Imagine yeeting high caliber HE shells while going at BT-7 speed.
It would probably only be 1.7 to 2.3. From what I’ve read the fuses for the HEAT shells never seemed to work. The reload is also quite long.
But yes I agree. It should be in game. Either in the Soviet Tree or the Swedish Tree. I say Soviet because it’s a BT tank, and Sweden because they already have Finnish vehicles
Lav ads, that's a funny joke America isn't allowed to have armored cars at higher tiers
DAS ist gut dude Italy still lacks any type of IFV wth you talking about.. Italy is waiting for the Dardo ifv since 2017
@@raptor2-40delta2 italy isnt lacking anything. the fucking tier 3 R3 could be easily used as IFV with its too good 20mm. Germany on the other hand misses its Wiesel or Marder IFV since ages lol
Artjom Гартманн lol stfu Italy lacks shit tons of vehicles between 5.0 and 6.0 and also an ifv at 8.3, that is the Dardo.. if you get killed with the Oto R3 with only 50mm of pen the only thing I have to say is git gud
USA doesnt have any armored cars in the ENTIRE game to be exact XD
The M8 is very expensive and rare and ive never seen the T18 in a battle
DAS ist gut no I’m the guy that rocks the entire enemy team with the Centauro, because y’all fucking blind and get easily flanked by a single player😂
The fact that most of the vehicles he talked about in all the videos from this series most of them were put in the game
Listening to the segment about what we now know as the ELC Bis (AMX ELC) and how he said Gaijin would probably give it a fully rotatable turret is very funny to me
We really need the M-51 and M-60 Super Shermans in game!
@the baron that would be interesting but the first 2/3 of the tree would be a reskinned US/UK line though
@the baron hmmm true, true
But its still more Shermans hahah
2:21
How did.. that happen?
I know right? Like wtf?
Trapshot or pixelshot
I have no fucking idea.
Trap shots.
THE WEEK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONG
i died to wirbelwind in object 279, it penned my front plate... its 120 on angle and it penned it
The Egyptian T-34-100 and the T34-122 would be a fun tank to play in War Thunder
Its called T100 tank destroyer but yeah i was about to say that
Well, we already have them in the soviet tree
@@heliogonzalezsanchez8227 the turrets are completely different, for example im pretty sure the egyptian T34-122 holds a 122 howitzer instead of a tank cannon
T-34-100 is already in the game.
@@mixderman2461 The T-100 and T-122 aren't the same thing as the T-34/100. The turrets are completely different, and a lot more angular. Also they use completely different guns than the T-34/100's gun (BS-3 100mm AT gun for the T-100, D-30 122mm howitzer for the T-122).
4:05 Type 87 RCV was shown in one of the Direct Hit devblogs!
What about the Chilean M24 with the OTO Melara 60mm HVG?
It would be an odd addition, my guess would be 6.7-7.7, mainly because while it's far more survivable than the AUBL it's mobility is a lot worse, only better than the heavies at that BR. And while it's penetration is good it's damage is lackluster due to its low calibre and would struggle to kill many tanks in less than 3 hits, save for the Russians which the Americans often play with at the higher BRs
I made a model of that on 1/35 scale by scratch building the upgrade bits onto it while restoring an old Chafee kit I did a long time ago! It's one of my favourites I've done!
@@the_victorious_1 Make a video of it and I'll sub to you
@@judedeschamps2369 im pretty sure the chaffe would be the same BR as the AUBL since it uses the same 60mm HVG maybe a little bit powerfull engine then the original m24 chaffe? But thats basically it.
@@xxxnoscoper360xxx6 maybe, but I doubt it. The chaffee weighs a full 10 tons more than the AUBL, while it has a more power engine, it has much worse mobility than the AUBL and all other MBTs at that BR bracket, only exception being the British. The chaffee beats the auble in only the survivability category, which doesn't mean much since the IFVs will shred the chaffee with auto cannon fire just like they do the AUBL
Maybe make a list of tanks that should be added into the game, but focus on the WW2 era. There are still some good stuff that could be added (event or not) like the StuG IV or other Marder models, the soviet A-20, the Centaur, the Cavalier, the Covenanter...
T17E1 or (talking about aircraft) the Fairey Barracuda
3:55 "[The ELC] obviously wouldn't be able to take any hits." Well obviously you've never played World of Tanks where the AMX ELC could randomly bounce rounds because why the hell not?
Been there when a Skoda appeared in front of my AMX i somehow bounced it with my UFP by the time i hit the brakes lmao
"at the very least the gun looks to have very low depression"
another day in the Union, comrade
Well, I don't think France need another obscure 50s light tank. They litteraly developped dozen of prototypes of this concept during the period, with generally the same characteristics: high HP/tons, autoloaded 90mm, reduced crew, mobility over armor, etc, etc...
IMO, something really enjoyable would be to developp the AMX-10 RC branch, which is one of the classical french tank of the 80s. Firstly, a "generic" improved one would be cool (the 90s seen upgrade based on IR/upgraded fire-control and complementary armor to sustain light autocannons shots), not too overpowered. For premium, some promising prototypes were tested during the 80-90s, including one with a stabilised quickfiring 90mm, so something relatively close to the italian ones you quoted here, and another with a Sabre dual-30mm AA turrets.
As an premium tank for German tree: 7TP, as Wehrmacht was using some after conquering Poland.
Other would be PT-91 as a premium in some non soviet nation, as we don't have Polish tree, and some T-72ish vechicle, esspecially one that was the best variant of it for a long time, in other tree than Soviet would be nice.
im here rewatching old spookston videos and at 4:09 Spookston seems to have predicted something
Type 87
Spookston: probably 8.7
Gaijin: 7.3
Heres what I would love to see: BT-42, The german halftracks, skink, Bob semple (maybe armed with boys-at rifle?) and Maus.
Jeep with recoilless rifle
Maus was shit in wt im glad it got removed
The bob was supposed to be armed with a 37mm gun
@@sugoisukhoi let's be real how are you supposed to put a 37mm on it?
@@KingSpittusFactus Saw a couple of them during the Summer event at 9.0. Was hilarious sniping them with APDSFS.
I want the ELC AMX so damn bad. It used to be my favorite tank in world of tanks
this aged like fine wine
One tank I always thought about was the Strv Krv. A lot of people have been talking about adding the Kranvagn, but that probably won’t happen since it wasn’t complete. But to does seem like a similar situation to the E-100, where it had a planned Turret which was never built. Instead the E-100 has the Maus Turret in game. Similarly, the Strv Krv was a plan to mount cenutrion mk10 turrets on the Kranvagn hull. This would give it an almost impenetrable hull, even if the turret is easy to pen. Even if the armor was crap, the turret mounted on the Kranvagn hull would be much faster than a regular centurion. And since it’s a similar situation to the E-100, the Strv Krv could probably be added into war thunder.
Just a quick idea as well, the Swedes technically had armored cars, such as the l180 and the Pansarbil m/39 or “Lynx” Sweden technically used them and they made about 30 of each, so I don’t see an issue it’s having them.
Anything for germany?
I would personally love to see FW-190 with a torpedo (there were a few versions if I remember correctly).
PaK 40 RSO would be really ncie, small and light vehicle with a really good gun.
Also Marder IFV would be nice because bagelpanzer doesn't do well at higher br.
On one hand RSO with PaK40 would be interesting, I doubt in its ability to be even remotely effective (very poor mobility, recoil handling similar or even worse than ZiS-30 or M56 Scorpion and no armour)
@@Jfk2Mr Depends at what br it would have. I expect around 3.0 since there is pak puma nad Marder III H. Maybe even 2.7 because of its complete lack of armor.
@@Jfk2Mr poor mobility? it was supposed to serve in the Russian terran. Poor mobility is something i doubt
I love coming back to these videos years later and seeing some of spookstons wishes that came true and got implemented into the game
Czechoslovak ShKH vz. 77 DANA would be nice, it can fire HEAT and HE.
I’ve always wanted the M-60 Sherman.I would also like a M51 super Sherman as a tech tree vehicle for France.
I think it would be fun if they added ww1 tanks as an option. The tanks would be Renault's and what not
I love playing with Biplanes and stuff I would ottally play an event centered around pre ww2 stuff
I'm glad you spotlighted CLAWS Humvee. With the addition of radar missiles getting added in I could definitely see it added in, hopefully CAS will finally have a reason to fear the ground once again.
my man predicted an suggested the ELC
Spookston do you know that the South African forces in WW2 had a Jumbo Firefly? It's basically a Firefly turret on a M4A3E2 Jumbo Hull which makes it literally the Assault/Breakthrough Tank of the British
My bad it's not a Jumbo hull it's actually an M4A3 hull still better and better armoured than the M4A4 hull
Austrian tank tree which includes tanks like the SK-105 would be a great addition to the game including a Brazilian tank tree
I actually do not support any more small trees bc they are mostly just copy+paste and don't come up to what people want.
I personally would love to see the SK-105 in game but in my opinion it rather fits into the french tree (it has an oscilating turret, wich just fits with the theme of french tanks don't judge me)
Jakob Nuernberger yep basically it
Ohhhhhh..Tnx for fituring te ELC I was behind the idea and for more vehicle there are the object 430 and the object 488
Well. With the new Wind of Change Update the Amx ELC and Israel Tanks did come. Coincidence?! ... well probadly Yes :-D
3:00 the ELC was for reconnaissance divisions. The 90mm is there for the same reason as the Hellcat, so they can deal with running into armour. It wasn't meant to engage vehicals, unless it needed to. Such as performing a delaying action, until bigger tanks, or less mobile parts of a unit arrive to support.
Yes, the turret is limited to a 90° arc because of the breach gets in the way. The turret can be swung back, to aline the breach with the loading mechanism's ram.
We should get Egyptian AMX-Sherman crossover tank or the Ethiopian s-75 On the chassis of a T 55
Spookston, you should talk about the M60-2000 in the next video about tanks that should be added. It was a project by the General Dynamics Land Systems to add a M1A1 turret onto a M60 hull to sell to other countries as a cheaper alternative to buying a new MBT. I would like to see it added as a US event tank with a BR of maybe 9.3 or 9.7
France is currently the only nation in the game without a conventional IFV (guns and missiles), while Sweden that was added 6 months ago already has 3 IFV which one being conventional . SO I propose to add the EBRC Jaguar to the game, it is extremely modern being put into service in 2020 but since we are seeing now MBTs with classified armor from 2016 added to the game, an IFV that doesn't have great armor to begin with could come to the game without powercreeping, we also have an equivalent already in the game being the Strf 9056 since they basically use the same gun and both have deployable ATGM launcher .
well you correctly guessed the first placement of the ELC bis O.o
since gaijin did add a turkish vehicle (M-60 AMBT) i think they can add some turkish vehicles
Tulpar-s
Altay
Leopard 2A4NG
M-60 E (why not add a one more m60)
Korhan
Cobra Tow
Acv-40 Korkut
cok iyi
id love to see Tiger 007 as a premium tank which was The Tiger tank used by Tank Ace Michael Wittmann at the time of his demise
My life will be complete when Scorpion CVRT family is added
The Humvee with the AMRAAM looks like a Katyusha
U predicted the type 87 lmao
I really want the AMX ELC, loved playing it when I used to play WoT, would love to see it in WT, even if it was an event vehicle
Wonder if one of them would have an actually bearable repair cost.
Power to weight ratio is typically measures as killawatt/kilograms or horsepower/weight mass and weight are also different. What you are referring to as p/w is just the HP per tonne
I want a half track or some shit loaded with nothing but like 2 dudes with Panzer Faust’s
"Unless they gave the Type 87 APFSDS"
*8.0 Flashbacks intensify
The Egyptian Ramses 2 MBT which is a heavily modernized t55 by general dynamics with a better engine better fire control system and 105 mm gun
Yes I'd love to see this
M1A2SEPv3. Since they already gave the abrams a shitty hand with the MBTs the M1A2SEPv3 would correct such issues. Probably be the first 11.0+ vehicle.
It would probably still have ~350mm of hull protection xd
The current M1A2 is modelled like a SEPv2, if I'm not mistaken, as it has an extra rack on the back of the turret. Yet, it has none of the features a SEPv2 would have.
I am speed
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I am retarded
@@type-10 yes, you are.
@@Nothing-1w3 yes, I am
@@type-10 yes.
That chilean super sherman with the OTO HVG is something I'd happily pay money for, being a Chilean that likes Italian guns
Or at least our custom Leos.
Bring back the panther II
It never existed so it won't come
@@KingSpittusFactus :(
They should add it back in game as what was actually built. An incomplete hull.
@@TheCarDemotic Or at least with it's real armament: 75mm selfloader. + giving the 88 to the Panther F.
Osorio EE-T 1, there was even a discussion in the forum about Osorio forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/387105-prototypes-of-engesa-os%C3%B3rio-ee-t1-os%C3%B3rio-ee-t-2/
They already kinda have a avenger on the Japanese tech tree
Yaay my suggestion of the AMX Elc Bis from the previous vid got chosen :pp
I'm still waiting for gaijin to add the Dardo ifv
Wait longer
@@jlopezleoz0124 I have a plan
I've been asking for the ELC since I heard them announce the French tree. My favorite vehicle in WoT back in the day.
US, Italy and others having a buff
*Sad german noises*
2 years later almost all of these have been added
Don't forget that the Avenger ADS can also be equipped with Hellfire ATGM's and unguided rocket pods. So it's not just limited to an Anti Air role. I'm going to the National Guard, I leave for boot camp soon, I was originally gonna be a 14 x-ray which would have seen me maintaining the Avengers ADS system but I didn't get it because of how my MEPS center just refused to cooperate with my Recruiter, so it ended up dragging out and I lost that job.
The Vickers Mk3 At 8.3 and Olifant mk1B at 9.0 would make the UK tree one hell of a force to be reckoned with.
@the baron
Vickers Mk3 is built to mimick the Leopard 1 hence the rounder turret, you want a truly terrifying tank look at the mk4
I would really like to see the merkava mk3 with improved 4th generation composite armor that actually proved to be very good
I think that since we have both the merkava mkI and the mkII, it is fitting that there would be a mkIII added...
I'd really like to see the FV215 project. for those familiar with WoT, it's what they call the FV215b (183) in-game. it was a British Heavy Gun Tank developed on the basis of the FV214 Universal chasis by around 1955/56 to deal with soviet heavy armour like the IS3. the FV4005 and FV4004 "Conway" are two tanks that came from the same programme
The AMX ELC bis is a legend in world of tanks blitz. In my opinion at least. I was excited seeing it here because I thought no one would mention.
Also, now that you mentioned that it had a 90mm canon, the thing should be a lot strong in blitz. Doubt they’ll change it though.
In WoT, they gave the AMX ELC a non-traversable turret. It's played like an insane hit and run TD.
i dont know if you have said it on other video but a nice adition would be the argentina "sherman repotenciado" with a 105mm cannon
I would still like to see the Wiesel variants eventually. One AA and a td
A cancer to surpass R3
Proper armored cars thinks like humvees and BTR’s like the BTR-80 and a few other machines across various nations, There so many variations and vehicles to add to trees. They wouldn’t serve much as anti tank but can preform amazingly well in scout/antiair. Some of said armored cars like the Humvees were even fitted with Anti Tank guided missiles. So I think you can see why this is such an eye catcher for me.. I was inspired to start a small list if vehicles that should be added that has nothing to do with the doc that *Reddit has made* and do my own research on my own time as I find it fun to find out about new vehicles and more!!
Motorcycles with recoiless rifles. I would loathe to face them, love to play them
i'm trying to imagine what that would look like. would you put the rifle in the sidecar?
@@graniteamerican3547 well, I've seen motorcycles with mortar put in the sidecar, so most likely it would be in/on the sidecar
@@Jfk2Mr like, 60 mm mortar? i'd like to see that. I'm not sure its practical use, but I guess it makes sense since you wouldn't won't the motorcycle in danger.
Really cool machines I would like to see would be the churchill AVRE and the sherman firefly tulip (sherman equipped with RP-3s)
Oh, I’m interested in the 60mm HVMSG
_Sees a Object 279 being killed in the background by a 35mm_
I’m sorry what?...
Though I know not a tank, the RAH-66 Comanche would be a great helicopter to add. Make it where it is almost "immune" to radar, reduced laser guidance effectiveness, and infrared effectiveness; however, these features only apply when the weapons bays are closed and/or has no externally mounted weapons. The external mounts are going to be, of course, an upgrade as well as whatever missiles/rockets the weapons bay holds. Now the whole almost "immune" to basically computer guidance seems a bit much (ofc there is manual aiming), but all that means is that it only has its 20mm available, as soon as it's weapons bay opens up the "immunity" is reduced by a formidable margin and with external mounts...even more so.
the 60mm hyper velocity was also mounted in the m24 chafee here in Chile, replacing the 75mm.
I love AUBL HVG.
Now it's time to wait that sherman HVG. It's kinda fun that the fact it still can compete with free abrumz
t72 (2a83) testbed, type 99, object 477/477a,477a1,490, 490b, 195, 292
kranvagn, jagdtiger gas turbine, pzsfl4c, isu-152-2, t80um2, t90 (burlak turret), t14 armata, t15 armata, leopard 2 evolution, leopard 2 revolution, t90a, leclerc t4, leopard 2 (140)
Knowing how event vehicles work, instead we will get some mass produced vehicle or variant that should've been added to the tech tree years ago and would perfectly fill an existing gap.
The Avenger Humvee has been on my War Thunder wish list for quite a while now. I found it strange that the Japanese got the Type 93 but the US didn't get the Avenger since the only difference was the additional M3P HMG for close-in defense where the missiles would be ineffective.
Tbh I want some sort of sub-reserve tier that you unlock after to tier 2 or something. Like WW1 era tanks and armored vehicles like landships, FTs and it's foreign copies, A7Vs, armored cars, etc.
I want two things from Gaijin:
1) The Panzer 61/68/88 that was one of the few tanks that Switzerland made itself. It wasn't anything special, not at all but as a swiss tanker I've heard from people that the gun was really accurate, even more accurate than the Leopard 2A4's with which we replaced the Panzer 68/88. It couldn't fire on the move though and it has a bunch of problems that didn't have to do with fighting itself but just crew discomfort things and systems shutting down for no reason. I'd really happy if Gaijin added that, probably german tech tree, though I could see swedish because of neutrality reasons.
2) Silent Thunder. I actually enjoyed that event quite a lot and I'd love to see it return
As for premiums I am blank. But standard Tech Tree. M4A3 Sherman. The Army's workhorse. Usually the first Sherman people come by, being produced in large quantities. And it would be a more logical Sherman in the US tree than the M4A2(and if 76mm variant is added, replaces A2 76 since US never used it operationally)
oh my fucking god, the ELC AMX. I can imagine what havoc it will bring into WT
I experienced it in WoT, what a hated yet loved machine. small, but the design permit the 90mm gun
The Churchill AVRE, DD tank and the SO-122 are the only tanks I can think of at the moment.
How about a paper tank event? Where the event vehicle is the FV215b 183 , the O-Ni/ Type 5 Heavy, Lowe, maybe even the Jagdpanzer e100 if we wanna push it. The grind for these vehicles would be easy, but you only would have them for a certain amount of time.
i have a few suggestions to the swedish tech tree with foregin vehicles
1: CV9030 - 30mm auto cannon version of the Strv90. Lighter vehicle but more ammunition. Modern ammo has about 150mm apfsds penetration at 1000m and no less then 130mm at 1000m. Is operated by multiple contries.
2: CV9035 - 35mm auto cannon version. As the 35mm is already ingame some stats can be borrowed. Does not have the same rate of fire as the anti air ones but in return has better armor piercing rounds
3: NM135 - Norwegian M113 with a 20mm auto cannon on a rotating turret, variant with TOW is also avaliable
4: NM-116 - Norwegian upgraded M24 chaffe for recon and flanking. Has a 90mm french low velocity gun ment for HEAT and HE. So would be simmilar to the RU251
5: Leopard 1 A5NO - Norwegian Leopard 1, Would be more or less the same as the A1A1 but suggested difference would be mobility upgrade and better stabilizer, particulary groucers for better traction. Leo1 in general is alittle nerfed in mobility imo.
Bonus vehicle: BV206 with RBS70 anti air missile on the rear track. Mostly a proof of concept vehicle irl. Usualy it would rather be used to transport and supply the RBS70 instead of having it mounted on the rear.
PS: The NM-116 apparently has a lower top speed but better terrain mobility then the original M24 after changing to a turbo diesel engine. Also the .50 cal is a recycled M3 variant from previously owned Sabres. So higher rate of fire then usual .50 cals for ground vehicles.
No XX-20?
I know about those models due to Wargame Red Dragon lmao (the NM135 is awesome as a cheap IFV)
Merkava Mk4M. Also M1A2 Tusk with Trophy installed. If they want to go more current they are going to be getting into the realm of active protection systems anyway so Merkava and M1 could be the introduction to them since they are the first and second tanks of their type to include it that I am aware of.
@the baron They may have been tested by now, since they invaded the Crimea.
@the baron Maybe. But they haven't been speaking at length about the Ukraine in general. So it could also just be their other tactic. "Don't talk about it and it doesn't exist."
I would personally like to see some of the more wacky Proto Vehicles like the bdr g1b, or some of the proposed tank destroyers like the Valentine gun carrier which is basically a forward-facing support Howitzer version of a valentine, or something like the Harry Hopkins or alecto gun tractor.
Another couple of things I'd like to see is the Bison one which was basically the Shawn Panzer model one which was a field Howitzer basically rolled up onto a tarantula spans or one with a foldable Case-Mate, the Martyr to because I think that's definitely something that could be here considering it's one of the more common German anti-tank vehicles, the waspe SPG maybe even the UE 57 which is kind of a more odd vehicle, something from Renault be at the ft-17 one of them modernize variants one of the variance from several of the other countries that adopted it, perhaps the original Vickers 6-ton tank that the British allowed for export that came with the short barrel 47 m m Vickers gun, the BTS V which I would love love love to see, the Panzer 2 J because why not, I don't know if they've added the Excelsior, the Valiant perhaps some of the British Mark tanks with the 50 caliber or 15 mm Besa autocannon upgrades or the Mark II medium. Another one I would like to see is the Panzer 2 luchs modification
I think if we are talking about event vehicles my suggestion would be the Borgward IV Ausf. B mit Raketenbüchsen. It would be a fun evant tank and nothing more
Maybe the T77 Multiple .50 caliber Gun Motor Carriage, which has the chassis of an m24, but I couldn't find much on it. It was a prototype American SPAAG with 4 50cals.
Sorry 6 50cals.
FV101 Scorpion, this LT is long requested yet havent seen a daylight, 90mm gun, 80km of on road speed, armour that can stand 12.7 or .50 shot. (You know this).
This tank saw adoption in lotta countries, and quite a UK top export.
Yet WT dev pretend never saw it, and went on with mystical stuff (exist in blueprint only or not even produced yet).
Another one is a variant of PT-76 with ATGM, 90mm gun, .50cal HMG, better engine that can snuggly fit in tier 7.7 or 8.0
Id love to see the Sdfkz 222 cause they already have the body and the turret ingame. It would be a great fun machine maybe buffing up its battlerating to that of the puma with the 2cm