BETTER HACK Removing 'sleep mode' Parkside Performance PDSSAP 20 B2
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- **PCB ordering instructions in description below**
After developing the first hack to remove sleep mode from the Parkside Performance PDSSAP 20 B2, I wasn't satisfied with the idle current draw of 26mA, that could discharge the battery and damage it if left connected for days on end.
Now I've developed a definitive version of the fix, as a small PCB using a 555 timer to extend the sleep timeout to 6+ minutes. All the tool functions work perfectly, no more is a long trigger pull necessary to wake the tool up. As soon as you latch the battery, the tool is awake and ready to work. When left for longer than 6 minutes, it goes to sleep, drawing less than 0.5mA, meaning you can leave it for half a year and not discharge the battery, that's pretty much the self-discharge rate of the cells anyways!
Better yet, the fix works not only with the PDSSAP 20 (226Nm, 1/4" impact), but also other Performance line tools like the PASSP 20 (1356Nm, 1/2" impact), the PABSP 20 (60Nm drill) and the PSBSAP 20 (80Nm hammer drill), and gives all 4 of these tools the 6 min sleep timeout that makes them more comfortable to use.
**** Ordering Instructions ****
The no_sleep boards are for sale for €4.00 for 1x board and worldwide shipping, each additional board is €3.00. Package includes instructions, PCB and mounting hardware.
Contact gadget2engineering@gmail.com with the subject "no sleep circuit board order" for purchase instructions or any other questions!
If you want to make your own board, go right ahead, schematic and etching mask provided below:
Schematic: bit.ly/nosleep_schematic
printable Etching mask: coming soon
Use of these files is for personal use only, any commercial use of these materials is a violation of copyright.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:20 Different ideas
2:45 555 timer circuit
8:40 Testing the board
14:25 Wiring
19:38 Installation
20:50 Testing the 'hacked" tool
25:38 How to buy or make your own - Наука та технологія
Great Videos!
Why the b2 Model stops on heavy use, the old a1 Version run at the same work to the end.
it only does it on the max setting. take a step down from max setting and it won't stop. its a safety feature.
Very good hack, and you are doing a great job explaining how it works. 👍👍
Excellent presentation really awesome 👏
Thank you so much 🙂
I used a version of this circuit on a soldering station to adjust how much time it stays on, It's adjustable from 30 seconds to like 7.5 minutes. I hit start and then it turns on and even if I forget it on it turns of after a set time. I wanted to make it touch sensitive at first but since there is a transformer near the circuit board I was getting false triggering so I isolated the circuit in aluminum foil I think and grounded it on the inside and it works with a momentary switch. :)
This is really cool. Thanks
Good job again! Well done my Friend🤝🤝🤝
what's happening when the machine hits max torque and shuts off automatically?
This is the most annoying thing.....
Awesome improvement on the sleephack! Very nicely explained! Both the schematic and the wiring. Is the purchasable PCB compatible with the 500 microA improved version? Will this hack and the ultra low powerhack also drain the battery below the safety/shutoff voltage of 12-12,5V (or 2,5V/cell)? (And thus damage the battery?)
I'm watching your channel since of three, four months. Great job boy, thanks (I'm probably two or more times older :) and I not wish you thousands but millions viewers. But from the beginning i can't answer myself what is your native language, where you from?
He sounds very Canadian and possibly is bilingual: English and French.
Hello from Germany, first things first your videos are top Quality.
I have a question is it possible to make a hack that the impact turns left allways with full power and turns right with the choosen power on display?
Thanks in advance Markus
I have one like this model. It's not working only moves little and light on but not working, do you any solution? Os it repairable?
Received the tool. Have to say, as a DIY home user, not na issue for me.. I am "nervous", and I usually always keep rpessing the trigger anyway. Even when not, no big deal. But, someone who would use this over a long period of time in the day, with pauses, it might be annoying.
Yes i think i'm the 1K congrats!
Thanks! :)
Hey, great job! I had some issues with sleep mode of powerbanks in the past. This kind of technology could solve the problem and would be worth another video. For example powering an arduino with a powerbank fails because an ordinary powerbank shuts off due to too less current consumption of the arduino.
Hi, nice stuff. I have a question, I would like to connect makita battery to parkside tool, jigsaw, or chain saw. Connecting just ground and voltage does not work, need investigate how and what to connect to this third pin?
Did you found working way??
can you not just replace the switch with another that doesn't have the same sleep wake function?
Hello, i would like to order, but my email bounced back as undeliverable...
can you hack more power ?
a "how to video" of the creation of the schematics and the etching process would be nice, too :)
can you send me one to poland?
Good idee❤
Is there anything that can be done to keep it off during exercise?
I don't quite understand, you mean lock the tool? Yes, just switch the forward/reverse selector to the middle position, this locks the trigger and it stays off.
@@GadgetEngineering I mean when screwing bigger screws. When it starts turning itself off
Michelinek Use a bigger battery or choose a smaller powersetting (120Nm, 150Nm and maybe 190Nm). You will experience shutdowns of the tool with a 2Ah in heavy demand cases (226Nm position). A 4Ah battery has a max decharge current of 50A. That should be sufficient for this tool for all powersettings. The max current it can supply will drop as the battery discharges. So a with nearly discharged 4Ah battery you might also experience shutdowns. An 8Ah battery has a max discharge current of 100Ah. This will never cause shutdowns for this tool.
@@nekron75 not really - ua-cam.com/video/Dlwc5uQ9cVo/v-deo.html Using smaller torque settings indeed can help, but that makes the max power 226 damn annoying, almost useless.
Anyway I don't get the point of a impact driver shutting down under heavy load - its the hammer mechanism that should do the work, not the engine. Something's definitely not right with this tool and I'd also like to know what. @Gadget Engineering Do you think it could be the engine protection circuits cutting the tool down? Based on all the tests across YT, battery does not matter much.
@@GadgetEngineering ua-cam.com/video/Dlwc5uQ9cVo/v-deo.html This is what Michelinek refers to. tool engine (motor) shutting down when heavily loaded - on 226Nm setting, regardless of the battery. Seems like there is some tool protection, which overheats or kicks in way too soon. Or the motor is too small for the hammer mechanism..
Thanks for your job! 👌
You seems to be a real crack in electronic, could you have look on the reel big problem of this model? When the machine is at 226nm, it cut when you screwing in clock wise, even the motor is not hot, there’s an excellent video which demonstrate that. I can send you the link if you want. So, the machine screwing stronger in 190nm as 226nm it’s funny isn’t it?
Put the link here if you will so we can all have a look. Sure the shutdowns are not related to the battery not being able to supply enough current?
Can you please send the link to me, I want to see it stopping again, I've seen it somewhere but I forgot the name of the video. Cheers.
ua-cam.com/video/Dlwc5uQ9cVo/v-deo.html
You can change subtitles language if needed
Another link to show the problem.
Watching at 11´20
ua-cam.com/video/lxtjbJW2xdk/v-deo.html
Zdravím. Keďže vidím že máš naozaj dobre nápady chcel by som ťa poprosiť o pomoc s dizajnom obvodu na odpojenie 18v li-ion batérie po jej vybití cez MOSFET nie relé aby to nežralo veľa keď sa to nepoužíva. A bolo to priestorovo čo najmenšie. Potreboval by som aby to vedelo zvládať prúdy 40-60A Samozrejme normalne zaplatím za tvoj čas.
Hi I'd like to buy
Nice, I suggested a timer manipulation and you did it :) But is hack is not easy for diy people with none electronic experience.
so you are the real genius behind this!
@@seakyle8320 Lol
AVE would be so proud
Like removing the sllep mode fuction should help anything.🤣😂
why in france we dont have this problem ? no sleep mode no bug why ?
This function is present in all the PDSSAP 20 and most other Parkside Performance tools, there is a 40s timeout, you see this when the green LED goes out. After that to start the motor, it requires a strong trigger pull, and 3/4s delay. when the green LED is on, the motor reacts to the trigger much faster. Try it yourself, you just haven't noticed it until now. I also demonstrated this in a previous video. It's not a bug, it is software code in the firmware...
@@GadgetEngineering in all French test no one have this issu. The reason why I ask why 🤔?
Same here, (Netherlands) received mine last week, tested it, no sleep issues, no need to push the trigger completely. Not when I plug the battery in, not when it’s used after an hour, it just works.
@@northman9227 We have exactly the same problem in France .
We have even worse, several machines have caught fire!! 🔥
@@rtenklooster Nederland also
4 drills tried : all have the delay. The latest I have, has a slight delay.
The previous had a weird problem : it turned the motor on, slow speed, without pulling the trigger. And to make it weirder : the L/R switch had no effect either. Turned on left... Switch to right -,> still turning left. If it stopt by itself and turned itself on again , it turned right.