Barrie, its these types of people who put me off getting an EV, not the cars themselves. They are the types who hate everyone who disagrees with them. They can't accept that others are able and entitled to form a different view.
@@tophrobson8768 hi Top,, Here’s My experience of 3 wretched years of ev torture 🤯 waiting in line to charge, making my appointments late,!! forever looking at my screen to find nearest charge point ! (Yes I do have fast charger at home) Plus’s the wretched thing cost me 13k more to buy,, And now, “come January” total bliss just fill up with lovely Diesel Defender,Ahhhh pure Joy 🧚♀️🧚♀️🧚♀️🧚♀️👍👍 PS as I bought my ev ,,I now find that it’s worth 8k less than the ice model I should have bought,,, That means it’s cost me a 20k loss!!!!
I looked forward to my ev for ages folks,,Alas I suffered 3 years of regret and frustration. Waited hours at charging stations, range anxiety,,, I just can’t wait to take delivery of my new DIESEL defender in January 🙏🙏🙏,,
EVs do indeed have their place. That place just doesn't happen to be on my driveway. I'll stick with carburettors and stainless steel exhausts, thanks all the same.
@@befunged If you spent less time on Minecraft and didn't play with Lego quite so much, you'd know that Lead Additive has been available ever since 4 Star was discontinued. And the red flag jibe just makes you look even more immature than I already take you for. Perhaps you should reflect on the fact that my classic Triumph is now worth more than it cost me to buy 3 years ago, whereas your EV has suffered catastrophic depreciation. Not so clever now, are you?
Agreed, vehicles are bought on merit, the government trying to force the motorist into buying an EV will catastrophically fail. EV cars have their place, but they're not right for everyone. I tow a large caravan so have a 3.0 litre diesel to pull it, an EV would not suit my needs, nor would it be practical from a charging aspect. I'm not surprised the original upward trend of EV sales has tanked, also if everyone owned an EV the national grid would grind to a halt.
"If everyone owned an EV the grid would grind to a halt " that is an opinion. You should see what the national grid, that is the people who built and have run it without fail since the 1930s, say about it.
If I had a pound for every time someone posted: ‘if everyone had an EV the grid wouldn’t cope’ 🤣 I’d have a lot of money. Yeah sure, just the same as if everyone with a petrol and diesel car decided to all fill up at exactly the day & time, the fuel stations wouldn’t cope either. Is this ever likely to happen - no ! Move along 😊
Whenever I am in discussions with an EVangelist who constantly decries ICE cars and their burning of fossil fuels, I point out to them that were it not for fossil fuelled excavators, diggers, lorries, factories etc, plus by-products from the petrochemical industry, they wouldn’t even have their oversized Electric Noddy-Wagons to play with.
We are in a transition and this is what a transition is like. Also petrochemicals are not byproducts. They are the products. There is a difference between fuels and materials.
Lol. Bonkers comment. True but things change. New technology is built using old technology. But then - wait for it - we have the new technology and society moves forwards.
@@CheeseLovingGuy Oil is used for almost everything including synthetic materials which including sheaving for electric cables. Electric is not going to produce things out of thin air.
£600 just got us a diesel Picasso with 148,000 on the clock with nothing wrong with it. She is 21 Our other car which we have had for 16 years has just passed its MOT. He is 19 This is the future Love4 David and Lily.
Well, if there are four people inside at the time their carbon footprint would be severely reduced; save on the cost of granny's pension too. Starmer would be delighted.
I am not a rainbow coloured moccasin wearing ECO tree hugger, but I am on my second EV. I thought I'd give it a try as an alternative method of propulsion via work leasing. The main thing for me is that my total motoring costs are between £50 and £70 a month less. The effect on my wallet is personal and undeniable. EV is not for everyone .. nor is a V8 and I love the sound and feel of a V8. I care not for extreme opinions or insults on either side of any debate, I enjoy mine, never had a problem, only once queued to charge for 10mins and have to Public Charge all the time for just 30mins a week, mainly whilst shopping or dining .. and I have no smell of fuel on my hands, shoes or car. Just 120 years ago a driver would have to buy petrol in bottles from a pharmacy
My Gas Boiler was at least forty-five years old when I left it, never serviced, the pump stopped once and the plumber took the impeller out and wiped it. He put it back in and said "Give us a ring if it happens again" It worked faultlessly for the next 27 years!
evening, i live in the countryside, just bought an old diesel vw jetta. why the fk would i want to buy a electric car? i constantly see and get held up by ev tossers doing 45mph in a 60. they might be fine dashing from one city to the next to charge them and paying through the nose......leave them be barrie, you can train a dog, but idiots will always be idiots. let them spout off about their savings and charging from their solar panels while forking out 40k or so!! the fact is they've just thrown a sh!t load of money away and are trying to justify it lol!! smiley face emoji. if saving the planet means making idiots poorer, i'm all for it! payed 2k for mine, got 600mile plus range for £80......and we are muppets? the environmental impact of owning a ev is ridiculous in comparison to running an older diesel vehicle. they will never understand that when quotas are set on ev sales it will skew the figures...... the sad thing is these nutters are trying to get others in the same situation they are in. i think this says a lot about their mentality. best you can!!
Barrie, I'm in the process of looking for a new car. My current car is a 3 litre petrol that's done over 200k miles but it's knackered now. I'm looking at a 400bhp V8 - petrol is cheap for what it is! 👍🏻😁
EVs are so efficient, that they need to move hundreds of tonnes of earth materials for each one, they need to precondition them to charge them, they need to preheat the batteries to charge them, they need to drive them miles away to charge them, they need to drive them around safe places to keep the brakes operational, they need to keep them between 20% and 80%; and they need to replace them whenever they set themselves on fire or the battery fails. May as well, you could buy a twenty year old car and enjoy proper motoring as inefficiently as it gets, knowing that you still get a lot more out of your money and fuel than those lost owners of the super efficient electric appliances on wheels!
@@ComeJesusChrist is how you make all your buying decisions? 9600 baud modem because people just chuck them out? Boot from the floppy drive never failed? I hung on to my previous cars for years because they were reliable, I drove carefully and they lasted. I could however see that other people enjoyed getting new cars regularly but nobody chided me for driving the same car for years. It's clear from your list of things you have read about, that you have no experience of driving evs
@ I drove one at work, actually. My brother also has one and I’ve been looking at the i3s a few years ago. Nothing beats a twenty year old five or six cylinder diesel estate, especially an old E-Class or a Volvo XC70.
MOR RAG RETURNS. Her best work was during the races between GEOFF BUYS CARS and THE MACMASTER. OF course an EV had done the JOG to LE in 16 hours. WOW WOW WOW. BUD DID SO JURING LOCK DOWN WITH NOTHING ON THE ROAD AND NO QUEUES FOR CHARGERS. G and L did on a real day with real traffic & R W.
My Brother-in-law has one, he is retired, disabled and it's ubercheap for him. No Brainer for him, driveway, charger and low milage. I can't charge at home and I can't afford a new car which makes me angry because my 1.3 Daihatsu Sirion is subsidising your nerdy cars. Selfish, arrogant and stupid is what these people are.
Oh no Morag. You need to get in touch with Geoff Buys Cars, his mates The Macmaster (who you might know) gets lots of messages from Morag, once she has found you, she won't leave you alone.
I don't have a problem with EVs. If you want one, buy one, if you don't - don't. But just have a level playing field, no subsidies, no stockpiling, no rationing of ICE cars etc. Let the market decide.
Son in law had Tesla hated it for range anxiety , he did a lot of miles and it was a company car . Changed within the year . Daughter has Tesla and loves it because she only uses it locally and that’s a company car too. Horses for courses, they don’t make a single EV that would be of any use for me personally if they did I’d consider buying it
Thank you Barrie, an honest secondhand car salesman? I would trust you, my girlfriend needs an automatic, a very cheap first car because she is 45! Can you help? A Geoff buys cars sort of car.
I have an EV company car. I don't have access to home charging. The range is appalling. 177 on a full charge. Jump on the motorway it's drops 30 miles straight away. Put the heater on and drop another 20 miles of range so 177 miles becomes 107 miles. It's takes 1-1.5 hours to charge 3 times a week. That's more than 3 hours of lost productivity. This is all assuming that the chargers are all working (hardly ever happens) and them assuming g a working charger is free (hardly ever happens). I am afraid to put the heater on because it kills the range. The EV Evangelists are full of Bubbulus Stercum
@@declanbrady5172 And you are the person who needs to reply to the original article setting out why EVs just don’t work for some/most people. And while you’re at it, reply to “Everything Electric” just to see what they come back with. Surely they’d never attack a fellow EV owner?😂
Son is an EVangelist, has one for a company car. Goes everywhere using his wifes Volvo ICE or, in company time, by train; ergo his EV is virtually unused. The west coast mainline closed because of power failure at Nuneaton on Saturday so, if your plan B was to use your EV but it needed a charge, suddenly your day trip to London is a no no.
The adult way at looking at this is as follows......if EVs are so great, how come EV sales here in Ireland where I live have fallen 25% in the last 12 months while sales of petrol and diesel cars have increased 10%? Why are dealers reluctant/refusing to take EVs as trade ins? Why, in my job of 350 employees where my employer installed 24 EV charge points (which are free to use), are empty every day apart from the solitary Tesla Model Y driver who uses them? Why, in my housing estate of 100 houses, is there just one EV, and that EV is usually parked up while the house owner uses his ICE car most of the time? Why do EVs need government grants (ie taxpayer money!) as an enticement to buy one? Why are EV owners so touchy when someone dares to question their (very questionable) decision to buy a fast depreciating electric vehicle? Surely if they were happy with their purchase, they'd ignore the naysayers and sit comfortably in their EV (while it takes an age to charge)? I'm not against new technology, but this stupid EV mandate was pushed onto the buying public who are being used as guinea pigs while the manufacturers try to work out the gremlins. Why would I as an ICE driver swap my petrol car with a 1,000km range for a more expensive EV with a fraction of that range (and yes I do long distances in my job) AND pay far more money to buy the EV in the first place......AND lose a lot more in depreciation?
Did you see the car dealer on Newstalk ( should still be on UA-cam), she’s in Ireland and confirms what you say. Many Irish car dealers are refusing to take EVs in part exchange.
@ Yes I saw that interview a while back. She’s in County Wicklow just south of Dublin and she stated that she refused to take EVs as she couldn’t sell them on. She got a lot of hate for that but she’s a businesswoman, not a charity and it would be madness for her to have a forecourt of used EVs that she couldn’t sell. I had personal experience of her “plight” when I changed my own car last January. The dealer had a used Peugeot 208 EV, just 8 months old for sale sitting beside the car I was buying and we got chatting about it. He said he regretted taking it in as he just couldn’t shift it, despite cutting the price twice. He also said he’d never take another EV as a trade in. So when I heard the woman on Newstalk saying the same thing, I came to the conclusion that it’s a developing trend and EV owners will be stuck buying another EV as they won’t find an ICE garage willing to take them.
@ yeah, it’s a growing trend. A good while back I had an Audi diesel in for service and they loaned me an EV for the day. When I returned a salesman approached me and enthusiastically asked me what I thought of the EV. I told him and he left dejectedly.
I have an 20 year old E46 M3, it makes a wonderful noise, has style and character. Everything an EV does not have so I think I'll keep my M3 until I die of old age.
The government in Ireland are paying 20,000 euros grant to taxi drivers towards a new EV for a taxi, most of the public don't know that, all they see is taxi drivers driving EVs and saying to themselves they most be good if taxi drivers are using them for their living, not knowing taxi drivers wouldn't pay 44,000 euros for a brand new iD4 and not knowing how it will survive long hours and what will it be like with 250,000 km minimum if it gets to that in around 3.5 years.
@@brendanc5519 Correction my friend, it is not the Government of Ireland giving these grants, it is you and I, the TAXPAYERS OF IRELAND who are giving these grants.
@@davidmehlhorn726 if the tax payers were in control of the purse strings they wouldn't be getting 20k towards a car, but we're not in control of the money. We pay the government decide..
Well Barrie I think everyone is entitled to there own opinion. However, no one should be nasty or cruel to anyone that has an alternative opinion. I have owned an EV for a long time, it is my opinion that if you can charge at home and you do not travel more than what that car can do in a day an EV is very good, however if you travel all over the country then an ICE car is better for you. Have a good day.
Barrie, as regards the figures being quoted by Autotrader for the ID Buzz lease, you and I know that they are headline prices. I have leased a lot of cars and what happens, in my experience, is, that once you have signed up for the deal they will then contact you at a later date and say that the colour quoted for is unavailable and that the vehicle is only available with various options selected which increases the monthly cost by 50 to 75 pounds at which point the only option is to pay or cancel.
Z Just like heat pumps, solar panels, battery banks, retrofit insulation ( when 50% of new homes are poorly insulated) etc etc etc the EV revolution ( lead by donkeys) is costing everyone a fortune. Its heavily subsidised by all of us for a few who could probably afford it anyway. New technology these days is not fully tested. It also has built in obsolesance. (Mobile phones, tablets etc). When it's dead throw it away. No spares, no skills, uneconomical to fix. NOT VERY SUSTAINABLE is it. Its also very exclusive, huge pockets of folk will not cope with the tech, will never be able to afford it, have needs way and above the design brief. Being forced to buy items still. At early stage niche adoption compared to items 30yrs plus into development is a disaster. A transportation device is not a TV or a mobile. Its taken a hundred years to give us the cars, vans etc we have. To think you can replicate this because some fool says we have to is as bad as its sounds. But hey ho we,ll all have to pay more. To get less before once again paying for the new mistakes yet to be dreamt up.
So True about Buyers remorse, Hate is the word, many of us have made that mistake and paid dearly because we have to get that vehicle out of our lives, and we could never see it coming.
I used to deliver diesel to windfarm sites and the statutory office ev charger had its own diesel generator. I never once saw a car charging but the generator was always running.
I have a couple of friends who have made the switch from petrol/diesel to EV. We had a reunion a few months ago in Newcastle UK where my friends would normally drive up to meet. Both friends said that the EV range and charging network on the EV cars made it difficult to do the trip in comparison to the ICE cars they had previously owned so they both travelled by domestic flight which is more polluting than driving an ICE car. Both friends said that they were now stuck with their EV cars as no one wants to buy a used one. They are both frustrated by their EV experience and feel that they have no option other than to keep it long-term or trade it in at a great financial loss for another EV. Neither of which are great options.
As an Embedded systems engineer from Finland who builds his own personal EVs (e-bike, electric skateboards), their battery packs and their management systems and chargers. I really don't like these 100% positive EV channels (fully charged comes to mind at first), they remind me very strongly of the consumer tech channels that just drum up hype about the latest Iphone or whatnot. I don't even own a car currently, I bicycle if weather is passable or use public transportation otherwise, if I need a car, I have friends and relatives nearby that I can borrow from and I'll pay them for it. I can see and analyze the differences between ICE and EV cars and clearly see that both have their strong and weakpoints and I don't understand how the UK goverment or EU can realistically say and/or mandate a "we won't allow the sales of ICE vehicles after this year" law that would be realistic. EVs don't work for everyones use case or living arrangements and I personally want to hear if a certain car model has problems, whether it's mechanical, electrical or maybe dealership related. I don't like zealots on either side of the aile (EV or ICE only) and as often as it is in engineering, the end result is a compromise that we balance to fullfil the requirements for the project.
Wind power 55% for the uk needs today. Super Fast charging should be 50% less when the grid is green. We should all be washing our clothes, popping on the immersion, fan heaters. Instead wind turbines are being turned off.
Barrie, I think those that are loving their EV's are genuinely satisfied with them. However they are trying to push EV's on us, who are not suited to EV's. I am disabled, with MS and drive a mobility car. I live in a rented property and cannot park outside my home. Currently I drive a Citroën C5 Aircross Diesel, which suits my needs and dread 2030, when I will be forced into an EV. This I think this is the time when I will give up driving, but this will mean that my mobility will be limited. Then again having an EV would limit my mobility anyway.
Does seem a strange market place, when people aren’t buying the product that’s supposed to be better than what they already have . So in response they reduce the price to encourage people to buy the product , they even expect the taxpayer to subsidise the market. But even that has proven problematic , at what point does it become obvious that this not the answer . The motor industry is a major employer and wealth creator, but it just can’t survive on pleasing just some of its customers . I can fully understand those who are totally satisfied with the technology , and are keen to spread their message . But if you can’t convince enough people , then the market will fail . Now that’s quite a worrying thought , because if you are involved in sales , that will put jobs at risk . If you’re involved in manufacture side that going to be a similar prospect , and ultimately to do what . Certainly not to save the planet , which is fine anyway . Apart from all the chemicals that will have to be dealt with in the future , but as I’ve said many times before this will have to run its course . And eventually those who were wrong, which ever side of the debate they were on . Hopefully have the decency to put their hands up and admit their mistake .
@@befunged VHS survived until something better came along. That's the whole point. People didn't need coaxing out of horses and carts when the combustion engine came along. People didn't need convincing to give up windmills when we learned to burn coal It's called advancement. We're going the wrong way with this nutty rubbish. Backwards.
Have you nothing better to do with your time? Go sell cars, while you still can, and have a nice life. The government’s of the world are legislating and taxing combustion cars off the road. That’s not Dan Caesars fault, and there’s not a thing you can do about it. So enjoy cars of what ever type you like.👍
Barry, you’re preaching to people who who don’t want to listen or have a reasonable debate. They’ve taken a position, and refuse to shift from it. These people are the sort of people who think bacon comes from a supermarket packet, not a farm. Eg, they believe electricity to charge their EV’s comes from renewable electricity when they charge their EV’s overnight. We all know base load power like Coal, Gas and Nuclear is required when there’s not enough renewable electricity supply. You’re wasting your time trying to convince people that refuse to listen, so save yourself all the wasted frustration dealing with them. M
You will get squashed, I presume you mean sitting ON a large battery pack. It's less dangerous than sitting on a drum full of petrol as you drive along.
What's really annoying is people who have an EV saying it's the best car I've ever had and it's only a few months old or a year or so old. I say to them come back when it is over 6 years old and over a 100,000 miles on it, with an opinion.
I have an EV that has just passed 97k miles and is 6 years old, can I let you know that EVs are great and I will never go back to a petrol or diesel car. My other EV has just topped 50k miles in 25 months and has been allover the UK in my travels. Does that annoy you also?
I personally know 6 people who've gone back to ICE. The only ones who haven't are tax incentivised work EV x 3 and disability / motorbility neighbours x 1 .
I’m just amazed how many people who must have had an excruciating miserable life driving a noisy, smelly exorbitant expensive BMW, Audi, Mercedes or Volkswagen have completely lost their memory. Vehicles I’m sure they bragged about how great the ride and cornering was down the pup only last week.
Makes me laugh when they say "people choose an EV"......utter crap, I know 4 people who have been forced into electric cars they dont want including my brother who has just been forced to give up a kia stinger diesel which he loved fo a basic tesla model 3 which he absolutely hates........even the electric vans at my work have been sent back and replaced with diesel.
This winter, don't be left out in the cold with poor range! Carry out all the usual checks on the ICE under the bonnet! Cannot check the thousands of connections in a LithiumZion battery, that can cause thermal runaway! So BEV owners, will just have to hope their vehicles don't set themselves on fire! Like the Mercedes in Korea, that took over one hundred other vehicles with it! Wondering why Koreans aren't buying them!
I have no idea why these "smug " ev owners get so mad when you simply tell them you dont want one, literally multiple tweets getting more annoyed, its hilarious. One fool even tried to convince me by telling me his wife had done a 20k word study on why EVs are better🤦
Ev is not at a point that the general public can afford to run , had two both with battery issues, had to sell lucky enough got shut before the prices plummeted
One man came in and wanted to exchange his ev for a land rover. First reason is he lives in the countryside. There's a serious lack of ev charging in the countryside but there's a plentiful supply of electricity pylons. Second reason, he's a big fairy. The uk countryside needs more public charging facilities. The uk needs less fairies rushing about
Barrie why do the EV’ers stork you ? Your only trying to give another outlook on Ev’s ..If the cars are so good hold value and cost less to charge etc why are they are bothering you 🤷♂️
all evs look shit with very, very limited exceptions. they are souless, heavy and a silly stupid step towards a cashless society where your money is not truely your own
What don't the EV nutters get about depreciation! Don't care about depreciation, as they don't intend selling it! Well, say after 12 months, someone runs into the back of them and the car is written off! Then they'll care! 50% lost after 12 months! Just go buy another one after losing 50% in 12 months!
GeoffBuysCars visited a Volvo scrapyard last week. Let's visit an EV scrapyard! Well yards! Airfields full of unsold EVs! TonyGoodman, ElectricCarnage knows where they are! Flying off the shelf! My arse!
I'm an EV driver but I'm always keen to hear alternative opinions. Ten minutes in, I've not heard a thing you've said that wasn't conjecture, opinion, insults or unfounded criticism. My Skoda Enyaq has been brilliant. You keep saying "Spoiler Alert". Aren't you the one spoiling it for EV owners? Show me your statistics for EV owners transferring back to ICE cars.
Oh come on, wanting true facts is asking rather a lot. I know from my 100 years of non EV ownrship that they brake down every 10 minutes, don't work in the wet, or cold, catch fire every half hour, Wear out tyres in 100 miles and have no residual value at trade-in . Or is that all a myth?
I agree with your opinions strongly i.e. EV's must stand alone & the fact you care so much about the UK motor industry is very important & admirable! Barrie, you get riled up and you are thriving on all of this negative banter (shit) ! Hopefully you are making a buck doing this show...Merry Christmas from Australia, but is is possible you can find a more informative, fun & pleasant way to do your UA-cam channel please? 43 minutes & 19 seconds basically defending Madeline Ross!
Barrie if 3 people come to you to saying they want to exchange an ev for diesel they want to exchange an ev for a diesel. If anybody doesn't want to exchange an ev for a diesel they aren't going to come to you to tell you that they don't want to exchange so how do you know?
I don't understand where these people get the money from to buy these EV monstrosities! In the last five years vehicle prices have more than doubled and the product (EV), does not have longevity.
To be fair - if I wanted to buy an EV, I wouldn’t be searching general secondhand garages to buy one. You’re making statistical assumption based on a narrow view. I’m an ICE driver but every single person I know who’s had an EV has bought another one - another statistical assumption.
Barrie you do yourself no favours by the way you display your views, to me you think you are better than anybody else, you believe anybody who disagree with your views is an IDIOT, unfortunately there are great driving EV vehicles, as there are great driving ICE vehicles, there is no getting around the problem our oil is running out, even you must agree it will affect the cost of buying fuel. It is not a bad thing considering the environment and the damage we are all doing. I suppose you will disagree with this too, as it will not fit with your views ? We can if you like have a challenge I will sit in my garage with the door closed, do my days work from my KIAEV3, it has a nice little work table for my use, I challenge you to do the same with the vehicle quoted in your video a discovery V6 same conditions, I bet you will change your mind and your views, the point I am making is both the cars are good and have a place, but they are not perfect. You have 2 ears and 1 mouth listen to all views before opening yours.
@@BarrieCrampton I am not interested in getting into a debate, my point was about the way you put your views across, my views differ from yours, I do not agree with a lot of what you say, I can assure you I am not an idiot. I have both types of vehicle in my household and they are both very good, both my cars are of good quality so I am in a good position to offer a my views here. Its hard to consider a Citron AMI an electric vehicle that should fall into main stream debate. Perhaps drive a decent electric vehicle and then comment ! yes they have issues but so does every ICE vehicle what ever the cost. For the record I also tell the truth, but I also listen and consider before I decide what I want to buy.
@ good, because I am sick of being called, old, senile, off my meds, mad, fud, dinosaur, stupid, uneducated, liar, etc, etc I have driven, 2 ipaces, A DS, an i3 my Ami, all great and perfect for my needs, so perhaps before you comment you should get your facts straight
@@BarrieCrampton Sorry for my late reply, obviously I have not belittled myself by name calling, I have not mentioned any listed, so I assume they are from others who respond to you.. I stand by my point regards the AMI I don't think we need to consider that in a debate about main stream electric vehicles, and I have no experiance or have no comments on the other vehicles you stated. My comments are based on research and expperiances I have had in the real world. As an owner of a number of vehicles, 2 of them fully electric, 1 diesel all new vehicles so I am basing my views on modern vehicles, my VW E-UP is perfect for shorter journeys and drives faultlessly, far better than an ICE one, my other vehicles are personal for me and my wife and are both brand new. My views are based on facts and experience as an owner so I am well placed to comment on your videos. My facts are very straight.
Barrie, its these types of people who put me off getting an EV, not the cars themselves. They are the types who hate everyone who disagrees with them. They can't accept that others are able and entitled to form a different view.
@@tophrobson8768
So go buy one of these milk floats then.
@@tophrobson8768 hi Top,,
Here’s My experience of 3 wretched years of ev torture 🤯
waiting in line to charge, making my appointments late,!! forever looking at my screen to find nearest charge point ! (Yes I do have fast charger at home)
Plus’s the wretched thing cost me 13k more to buy,,
And now, “come January” total bliss just fill up with lovely Diesel Defender,Ahhhh pure Joy 🧚♀️🧚♀️🧚♀️🧚♀️👍👍
PS as I bought my ev ,,I now find that it’s worth 8k less than the ice model I should have bought,,,
That means it’s cost me a 20k loss!!!!
I looked forward to my ev for ages folks,,Alas I suffered 3 years of regret and frustration. Waited hours at charging stations, range anxiety,,,
I just can’t wait to take delivery of my new DIESEL defender in January 🙏🙏🙏,,
EVs do indeed have their place. That place just doesn't happen to be on my driveway. I'll stick with carburettors and stainless steel exhausts, thanks all the same.
at least you have a driveway which is absolutely essential for EV owners
@@westendwatch No it isn't. I am on my second EV with discounted Public Charging and never had an issue
@@mdshovelNo, you believe you've never had an issue yet you've sat waiting for your car to charge🤔
Carburettors ? Does your car run on 4 star as well ? Is there a man in front of you with a red flag ?
@@befunged If you spent less time on Minecraft and didn't play with Lego quite so much, you'd know that Lead Additive has been available ever since 4 Star was discontinued. And the red flag jibe just makes you look even more immature than I already take you for.
Perhaps you should reflect on the fact that my classic Triumph is now worth more than it cost me to buy 3 years ago, whereas your EV has suffered catastrophic depreciation. Not so clever now, are you?
Agreed, vehicles are bought on merit, the government trying to force the motorist into buying an EV will catastrophically fail. EV cars have their place, but they're not right for everyone. I tow a large caravan so have a 3.0 litre diesel to pull it, an EV would not suit my needs, nor would it be practical from a charging aspect. I'm not surprised the original upward trend of EV sales has tanked, also if everyone owned an EV the national grid would grind to a halt.
"If everyone owned an EV the grid would grind to a halt " that is an opinion. You should see what the national grid, that is the people who built and have run it without fail since the 1930s, say about it.
If I had a pound for every time someone posted: ‘if everyone had an EV the grid wouldn’t cope’ 🤣 I’d have a lot of money.
Yeah sure, just the same as if everyone with a petrol and diesel car decided to all fill up at exactly the day & time, the fuel stations wouldn’t cope either.
Is this ever likely to happen - no !
Move along 😊
Whenever I am in discussions with an EVangelist who constantly decries ICE cars and their burning of fossil fuels, I point out to them that were it not for fossil fuelled excavators, diggers, lorries, factories etc, plus by-products from the petrochemical industry, they wouldn’t even have their oversized Electric Noddy-Wagons to play with.
True
We are in a transition and this is what a transition is like. Also petrochemicals are not byproducts. They are the products. There is a difference between fuels and materials.
@ - rubber and plastics are surely by-products of the petrochemical industries. We are not in a transition. We will never transition to EV’s
Lol. Bonkers comment. True but things change. New technology is built using old technology. But then - wait for it - we have the new technology and society moves forwards.
@@CheeseLovingGuy Oil is used for almost everything including synthetic materials which including sheaving for electric cables. Electric is not going to produce things out of thin air.
£600 just got us a diesel Picasso with 148,000 on the clock with nothing wrong with it. She is 21
Our other car which we have had for 16 years has just passed its MOT. He is 19
This is the future Love4 David and Lily.
EVs are carbon neutral until they set on fire 🔥
Thank goodness they're 20x less likely to catch fire than a vehicle with an ICE!
Well, if there are four people inside at the time their carbon footprint would be severely reduced; save on the cost of granny's pension too. Starmer would be delighted.
180grams per kWh is what the grid here in the UK costs.
The world needs more people like you Barry ❤🍻👍
More baz less Farage
I am not a rainbow coloured moccasin wearing ECO tree hugger, but I am on my second EV. I thought I'd give it a try as an alternative method of propulsion via work leasing. The main thing for me is that my total motoring costs are between £50 and £70 a month less. The effect on my wallet is personal and undeniable. EV is not for everyone .. nor is a V8 and I love the sound and feel of a V8. I care not for extreme opinions or insults on either side of any debate, I enjoy mine, never had a problem, only once queued to charge for 10mins and have to Public Charge all the time for just 30mins a week, mainly whilst shopping or dining .. and I have no smell of fuel on my hands, shoes or car. Just 120 years ago a driver would have to buy petrol in bottles from a pharmacy
My Gas Boiler was at least forty-five years old when I left it, never serviced, the pump stopped once and the plumber took the impeller out and wiped it. He put it back in and said "Give us a ring if it happens again" It worked faultlessly for the next 27 years!
What is it you are trying to say ?
But very inefficiently.
@@leeedsonetwo A Plumber would cost a quarter of my annual gas bill for a service on a Combi boiler, plus parts! Go home and sleep. Lived expierience.
@@leeedsonetwo Lazy plumbers want to sell you a new boiler for no reason. Combi! now it's a @@@@@@@@ heatpump! havin a Giraffe.
Everything Electric is a major grifting organisation..?
100% the fact they have to slap the chap from scrapheap challenge's face all over everything to make people trust their nonsense is a give away.
@TheCornish123456
The EV market will be fixed in "tinkering time", then it sink when put on the water.
I wonder who pays for them?
@@G-ra-ha-m Im thinking it's like a giant EV circle jerk.
evening, i live in the countryside, just bought an old diesel vw jetta. why the fk would i want to buy a electric car? i constantly see and get held up by ev tossers doing 45mph in a 60. they might be fine dashing from one city to the next to charge them and paying through the nose......leave them be barrie, you can train a dog, but idiots will always be idiots. let them spout off about their savings and charging from their solar panels while forking out 40k or so!!
the fact is they've just thrown a sh!t load of money away and are trying to justify it lol!! smiley face emoji.
if saving the planet means making idiots poorer, i'm all for it!
payed 2k for mine, got 600mile plus range for £80......and we are muppets?
the environmental impact of owning a ev is ridiculous in comparison to running an older diesel vehicle. they will never understand that when quotas are set on ev sales it will skew the figures...... the sad thing is these nutters are trying to get others in the same situation they are in. i think this says a lot about their mentality.
best you can!!
Agree 100%
Maties solar will make his charging cheaper when he charges at night. 😂😂😂😂😂
Barrie, I'm in the process of looking for a new car. My current car is a 3 litre petrol that's done over 200k miles but it's knackered now. I'm looking at a 400bhp V8 - petrol is cheap for what it is! 👍🏻😁
EVs are so efficient, that they need to move hundreds of tonnes of earth materials for each one, they need to precondition them to charge them, they need to preheat the batteries to charge them, they need to drive them miles away to charge them, they need to drive them around safe places to keep the brakes operational, they need to keep them between 20% and 80%; and they need to replace them whenever they set themselves on fire or the battery fails.
May as well, you could buy a twenty year old car and enjoy proper motoring as inefficiently as it gets, knowing that you still get a lot more out of your money and fuel than those lost owners of the super efficient electric appliances on wheels!
@@ComeJesusChrist is how you make all your buying decisions? 9600 baud modem because people just chuck them out? Boot from the floppy drive never failed?
I hung on to my previous cars for years because they were reliable, I drove carefully and they lasted.
I could however see that other people enjoyed getting new cars regularly but nobody chided me for driving the same car for years.
It's clear from your list of things you have read about, that you have no experience of driving evs
@ I drove one at work, actually. My brother also has one and I’ve been looking at the i3s a few years ago. Nothing beats a twenty year old five or six cylinder diesel estate, especially an old E-Class or a Volvo XC70.
@@ComeJesusChrist The problem of course is that cars wear out, there is a dire shortage of cheap viable old cars!
remember our government shouting , buy diesel, buy diesel, buy diesel.
MOR RAG RETURNS.
Her best work was during the races between GEOFF BUYS CARS and THE MACMASTER.
OF course an EV had done the JOG to LE in 16 hours. WOW WOW WOW. BUD DID SO JURING LOCK DOWN WITH NOTHING ON THE ROAD AND NO QUEUES FOR CHARGERS. G and L did on a real day with real traffic & R W.
My Brother-in-law has one, he is retired, disabled and it's ubercheap for him. No Brainer for him, driveway, charger and low milage. I can't charge at home and I can't afford a new car which makes me angry because my 1.3 Daihatsu Sirion is subsidising your nerdy cars. Selfish, arrogant and stupid is what these people are.
Oh no Morag. You need to get in touch with Geoff Buys Cars, his mates The Macmaster (who you might know) gets lots of messages from Morag, once she has found you, she won't leave you alone.
Go Barrie Go!
I don't have a problem with EVs. If you want one, buy one, if you don't - don't.
But just have a level playing field, no subsidies, no stockpiling, no rationing of ICE cars etc.
Let the market decide.
Son in law had Tesla hated it for range anxiety , he did a lot of miles and it was a company car . Changed within the year . Daughter has Tesla and loves it because she only uses it locally and that’s a company car too. Horses for courses, they don’t make a single EV that would be of any use for me personally if they did I’d consider buying it
Thank you Barrie, an honest secondhand car salesman? I would trust you, my girlfriend needs an automatic, a very cheap first car because she is 45! Can you help? A Geoff buys cars sort of car.
Well said Barrie
I have an EV company car. I don't have access to home charging. The range is appalling. 177 on a full charge. Jump on the motorway it's drops 30 miles straight away. Put the heater on and drop another 20 miles of range so 177 miles becomes 107 miles. It's takes 1-1.5 hours to charge 3 times a week. That's more than 3 hours of lost productivity.
This is all assuming that the chargers are all working (hardly ever happens) and them assuming g a working charger is free (hardly ever happens). I am afraid to put the heater on because it kills the range.
The EV Evangelists are full of Bubbulus Stercum
@@declanbrady5172 And you are the person who needs to reply to the original article setting out why EVs just don’t work for some/most people. And while you’re at it, reply to “Everything Electric” just to see what they come back with. Surely they’d never attack a fellow EV owner?😂
Son is an EVangelist, has one for a company car. Goes everywhere using his wifes Volvo ICE or, in company time, by train; ergo his EV is virtually unused. The west coast mainline closed because of power failure at Nuneaton on Saturday so, if your plan B was to use your EV but it needed a charge, suddenly your day trip to London is a no no.
The adult way at looking at this is as follows......if EVs are so great, how come EV sales here in Ireland where I live have fallen 25% in the last 12 months while sales of petrol and diesel cars have increased 10%? Why are dealers reluctant/refusing to take EVs as trade ins? Why, in my job of 350 employees where my employer installed 24 EV charge points (which are free to use), are empty every day apart from the solitary Tesla Model Y driver who uses them? Why, in my housing estate of 100 houses, is there just one EV, and that EV is usually parked up while the house owner uses his ICE car most of the time? Why do EVs need government grants (ie taxpayer money!) as an enticement to buy one? Why are EV owners so touchy when someone dares to question their (very questionable) decision to buy a fast depreciating electric vehicle? Surely if they were happy with their purchase, they'd ignore the naysayers and sit comfortably in their EV (while it takes an age to charge)? I'm not against new technology, but this stupid EV mandate was pushed onto the buying public who are being used as guinea pigs while the manufacturers try to work out the gremlins. Why would I as an ICE driver swap my petrol car with a 1,000km range for a more expensive EV with a fraction of that range (and yes I do long distances in my job) AND pay far more money to buy the EV in the first place......AND lose a lot more in depreciation?
Did you see the car dealer on Newstalk ( should still be on UA-cam), she’s in Ireland and confirms what you say. Many Irish car dealers are refusing to take EVs in part exchange.
@ Yes I saw that interview a while back. She’s in County Wicklow just south of Dublin and she stated that she refused to take EVs as she couldn’t sell them on. She got a lot of hate for that but she’s a businesswoman, not a charity and it would be madness for her to have a forecourt of used EVs that she couldn’t sell. I had personal experience of her “plight” when I changed my own car last January. The dealer had a used Peugeot 208 EV, just 8 months old for sale sitting beside the car I was buying and we got chatting about it. He said he regretted taking it in as he just couldn’t shift it, despite cutting the price twice. He also said he’d never take another EV as a trade in. So when I heard the woman on Newstalk saying the same thing, I came to the conclusion that it’s a developing trend and EV owners will be stuck buying another EV as they won’t find an ICE garage willing to take them.
@ yeah, it’s a growing trend. A good while back I had an Audi diesel in for service and they loaned me an EV for the day. When I returned a salesman approached me and enthusiastically asked me what I thought of the EV. I told him and he left dejectedly.
Barry, the voice of reason and common sense amidst all this madness.
Keep up the good work mate👏🏻
I have an 20 year old E46 M3, it makes a wonderful noise, has style and character. Everything an EV does not have so I think I'll keep my M3 until I die of old age.
The government in Ireland are paying 20,000 euros grant to taxi drivers towards a new EV for a taxi, most of the public don't know that, all they see is taxi drivers driving EVs and saying to themselves they most be good if taxi drivers are using them for their living, not knowing taxi drivers wouldn't pay 44,000 euros for a brand new iD4 and not knowing how it will survive long hours and what will it be like with 250,000 km minimum if it gets to that in around 3.5 years.
@@brendanc5519 Correction my friend, it is not the Government of Ireland giving these grants, it is you and I, the TAXPAYERS OF IRELAND who are giving these grants.
@@davidmehlhorn726 if the tax payers were in control of the purse strings they wouldn't be getting 20k towards a car, but we're not in control of the money. We pay the government decide..
Is that 'Morag' (40:58) the same one that haunts 'The McMaster' channal and gives him grief for complaining about his Tycan?🤣🤣
It sure is! 😂👍🏻
Morag really gets around doesn't she
Well Barrie I think everyone is entitled to there own opinion. However, no one should be nasty or cruel to anyone that has an alternative opinion. I have owned an EV for a long time, it is my opinion that if you can charge at home and you do not travel more than what that car can do in a day an EV is very good, however if you travel all over the country then an ICE car is better for you. Have a good day.
Very true, I agree
Barrie, as regards the figures being quoted by Autotrader for the ID Buzz lease, you and I know that they are headline prices. I have leased a lot of cars and what happens, in my experience, is, that once you have signed up for the deal they will then contact you at a later date and say that the colour quoted for is unavailable and that the vehicle is only available with various options selected which increases the monthly cost by 50 to 75 pounds at which point the only option is to pay or cancel.
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Just like heat pumps, solar panels, battery banks, retrofit insulation ( when 50% of new homes are poorly insulated) etc etc etc the EV revolution ( lead by donkeys) is costing everyone a fortune. Its heavily subsidised by all of us for a few who could probably afford it anyway. New technology these days is not fully tested. It also has built in obsolesance. (Mobile phones, tablets etc). When it's dead throw it away. No spares, no skills, uneconomical to fix. NOT VERY SUSTAINABLE is it. Its also very exclusive, huge pockets of folk will not cope with the tech, will never be able to afford it, have needs way and above the design brief. Being forced to buy items still. At early stage niche adoption compared to items 30yrs plus into development is a disaster. A transportation device is not a TV or a mobile. Its taken a hundred years to give us the cars, vans etc we have. To think you can replicate this because some fool says we have to is as bad as its sounds. But hey ho we,ll all have to pay more. To get less before once again paying for the new mistakes yet to be dreamt up.
EV Curious. Is that like being Bi-Curious?
I’m fuel fluid
😂....Probably the same crowd?! 😮😅
Could mean you have diesel and petrol driven vehicles. There are the peculiar alphabet vehicles with their LPG perversion.
the outcome is likely the same if you dip your toe in the water and try it!
@ - I don’t want to sprout a man-bun so no EV’s for me
EV are a solution to a problem that doesn't exist in the UK.
Global warming, clue is in the name of
thanks for your talk
Exothermic Vehicle = EV
So True about Buyers remorse, Hate is the word, many of us have made that mistake and paid dearly because we have to get that vehicle out of our lives, and we could never see it coming.
I used to deliver diesel to windfarm sites and the statutory office ev charger had its own diesel generator. I never once saw a car charging but the generator was always running.
Can you explain how regen will stop your brakes from working?
I asked you a question to which you haven’t replied, your words “regen stops your brakes from working”.
The brake discs need constant cleaning or they rust. They only get cleaned when they get used.
I have a couple of friends who have made the switch from petrol/diesel to EV. We had a reunion a few months ago in Newcastle UK where my friends would normally drive up to meet. Both friends said that the EV range and charging network on the EV cars made it difficult to do the trip in comparison to the ICE cars they had previously owned so they both travelled by domestic flight which is more polluting than driving an ICE car. Both friends said that they were now stuck with their EV cars as no one wants to buy a used one. They are both frustrated by their EV experience and feel that they have no option other than to keep it long-term or trade it in at a great financial loss for another EV. Neither of which are great options.
As an Embedded systems engineer from Finland who builds his own personal EVs (e-bike, electric skateboards), their battery packs and their management systems and chargers. I really don't like these 100% positive EV channels (fully charged comes to mind at first), they remind me very strongly of the consumer tech channels that just drum up hype about the latest Iphone or whatnot. I don't even own a car currently, I bicycle if weather is passable or use public transportation otherwise, if I need a car, I have friends and relatives nearby that I can borrow from and I'll pay them for it. I can see and analyze the differences between ICE and EV cars and clearly see that both have their strong and weakpoints and I don't understand how the UK goverment or EU can realistically say and/or mandate a "we won't allow the sales of ICE vehicles after this year" law that would be realistic. EVs don't work for everyones use case or living arrangements and I personally want to hear if a certain car model has problems, whether it's mechanical, electrical or maybe dealership related. I don't like zealots on either side of the aile (EV or ICE only) and as often as it is in engineering, the end result is a compromise that we balance to fullfil the requirements for the project.
Wind power 55% for the uk needs today. Super Fast charging should be 50% less when the grid is green.
We should all be washing our clothes, popping on the immersion, fan heaters.
Instead wind turbines are being turned off.
Barrie, I think those that are loving their EV's are genuinely satisfied with them. However they are trying to push EV's on us, who are not suited to EV's.
I am disabled, with MS and drive a mobility car. I live in a rented property and cannot park outside my home.
Currently I drive a Citroën C5 Aircross Diesel, which suits my needs and dread 2030, when I will be forced into an EV. This I think this is the time when I will give up driving, but this will mean that my mobility will be limited. Then again having an EV would limit my mobility anyway.
'Sunk cost fallacy' is real, some people can't admit they made an error as they think it will reflect on their judgement.
Good stuff Barry, please keep on it for our sakes
That's the plan!
Does seem a strange market place, when people aren’t buying the product that’s supposed to be better than what they already have . So in response they reduce the price to encourage people to buy the product , they even expect the taxpayer to subsidise the market. But even that has proven problematic , at what point does it become obvious that this not the answer . The motor industry is a major employer and wealth creator, but it just can’t survive on pleasing just some of its customers . I can fully understand those who are totally satisfied with the technology , and are keen to spread their message . But if you can’t convince enough people , then the market will fail . Now that’s quite a worrying thought , because if you are involved in sales , that will put jobs at risk . If you’re involved in manufacture side that going to be a similar prospect , and ultimately to do what . Certainly not to save the planet , which is fine anyway . Apart from all the chemicals that will have to be dealt with in the future , but as I’ve said many times before this will have to run its course . And eventually those who were wrong, which ever side of the debate they were on . Hopefully have the decency to put their hands up and admit their mistake .
Barry, as we know, you only get flak when over the target! Keep up the good work.
Merry Christmas 🎅🏾, may Yahuah bless you 🙏🏾
EVs are like Betamax in the 1980's, a new format that will never take hold and quietly go away.
How's your VHS doing ?
@@befunged VHS survived until something better came along. That's the whole point. People didn't need coaxing out of horses and carts when the combustion engine came along. People didn't need convincing to give up windmills when we learned to burn coal
It's called advancement. We're going the wrong way with this nutty rubbish. Backwards.
Best windscreen sticker? "NOT made in China!".
Barrie. I'm with you 100% but 40 minutes is a big ask. Make your videos 15 minutes long please
Hi Barrie agree, love your videos but 40 minutes is a bit too long, 15 minutes whilst drinking a cup of coffee is perfect 👍
Have you nothing better to do with your time? Go sell cars, while you still can, and have a nice life. The government’s of the world are legislating and taxing combustion cars off the road. That’s not Dan Caesars fault, and there’s not a thing you can do about it. So enjoy cars of what ever type you like.👍
There is nothing better than correcting lies, I’ve given up my job to do it full time as it’s never ending stream from the EV shills
Barry, you’re preaching to people who who don’t want to listen or have a reasonable debate.
They’ve taken a position, and refuse to shift from it.
These people are the sort of people who think bacon comes from a supermarket packet, not a farm.
Eg, they believe electricity to charge their EV’s comes from renewable electricity when they charge their EV’s overnight. We all know base load power like Coal, Gas and Nuclear is required when there’s not enough renewable electricity supply. You’re wasting your time trying to convince people that refuse to listen, so save yourself all the wasted frustration dealing with them.
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Don’t rise to it. Just keep doing the facts.
Yes , Facts are in such short supply.
EV people need to talk to their parents, grandparents etc.
What are the potential dangers of driving underneath a large battery pack everyday
You will get squashed, I presume you mean sitting ON a large battery pack. It's less dangerous than sitting on a drum full of petrol as you drive along.
What's really annoying is people who have an EV saying it's the best car I've ever had and it's only a few months old or a year or so old. I say to them come back when it is over 6 years old and over a 100,000 miles on it, with an opinion.
Why is it annoying?
Fair enough, as long as everyone who's ICE car less than 100,000 miles also shuts up
I have an EV that has just passed 97k miles and is 6 years old, can I let you know that EVs are great and I will never go back to a petrol or diesel car. My other EV has just topped 50k miles in 25 months and has been allover the UK in my travels. Does that annoy you also?
I personally know 6 people who've gone back to ICE. The only ones who haven't are tax incentivised work EV x 3 and disability / motorbility neighbours x 1 .
I’m just amazed how many people who must have had an excruciating miserable life driving a noisy, smelly exorbitant expensive BMW, Audi, Mercedes or Volkswagen have completely lost their memory.
Vehicles I’m sure they bragged about how great the ride and cornering was down the pup only last week.
Who owns an EV? Oh the MacMaster! Let's see what he has to say! Lost how much?
He doesn't own an EV, he leases an EV, and he's lost nothing. He also claims his tax back as it's classed as a company car.
Tell us how much he lost then ?
The EV market is satisfied. Those want them, have them. Everyone else is going to have to be forced against their will.
Makes me laugh when they say "people choose an EV"......utter crap, I know 4 people who have been forced into electric cars they dont want including my brother who has just been forced to give up a kia stinger diesel which he loved fo a basic tesla model 3 which he absolutely hates........even the electric vans at my work have been sent back and replaced with diesel.
This winter, don't be left out in the cold with poor range! Carry out all the usual checks on the ICE under the bonnet! Cannot check the thousands of connections in a LithiumZion battery, that can cause thermal runaway! So BEV owners, will just have to hope their vehicles don't set themselves on fire! Like the Mercedes in Korea, that took over one hundred other vehicles with it! Wondering why Koreans aren't buying them!
I have no idea why these "smug " ev owners get so mad when you simply tell them you dont want one, literally multiple tweets getting more annoyed, its hilarious. One fool even tried to convince me by telling me his wife had done a 20k word study on why EVs are better🤦
Ev is not at a point that the general public can afford to run , had two both with battery issues, had to sell lucky enough got shut before the prices plummeted
One man came in and wanted to exchange his ev for a land rover.
First reason is he lives in the countryside. There's a serious lack of ev charging in the countryside but there's a plentiful supply of electricity pylons.
Second reason, he's a big fairy.
The uk countryside needs more public charging facilities.
The uk needs less fairies rushing about
Where I lived in the country we had electricity , but we didn't have a petrol pump.
Barrie why do the EV’ers stork you ? Your only trying to give another outlook on Ev’s ..If the cars are so good hold value and cost less to charge etc why are they are bothering you 🤷♂️
Because propaganda only works if there are no dissenters.
What fossil fuels are used and how much to create a EV
all evs look shit with very, very limited exceptions. they are souless, heavy and a silly stupid step towards a cashless society where your money is not truely your own
Combi's need a service every year, they break down all the time so how much does that harm the environment and your bank balance?
What don't the EV nutters get about depreciation! Don't care about depreciation, as they don't intend selling it! Well, say after 12 months, someone runs into the back of them and the car is written off! Then they'll care! 50% lost after 12 months! Just go buy another one after losing 50% in 12 months!
Just had 2 rear tyres on my Honda E, fitter said EVs use more tyres fact from man on the ground
I got exactly the opposite opinion from the tyre fitter I spoke to.
Leaseloco have a leaf at £149/ month cheapest lease on site, massive loss for Nissan
Probably got a pointless heat pump too Barrie, Solar panels? Proper knob.
GeoffBuysCars visited a Volvo scrapyard last week. Let's visit an EV scrapyard! Well yards! Airfields full of unsold EVs! TonyGoodman, ElectricCarnage knows where they are! Flying off the shelf! My arse!
Give the address of just one of these EV scrapyards then.
I'm an EV driver but I'm always keen to hear alternative opinions. Ten minutes in, I've not heard a thing you've said that wasn't conjecture, opinion, insults or unfounded criticism. My Skoda Enyaq has been brilliant. You keep saying "Spoiler Alert". Aren't you the one spoiling it for EV owners? Show me your statistics for EV owners transferring back to ICE cars.
Oh come on, wanting true facts is asking rather a lot. I know from my 100 years of non EV ownrship that they brake down every 10 minutes, don't work in the wet, or cold, catch fire every half hour, Wear out tyres in 100 miles and have no residual value at trade-in . Or is that all a myth?
You audio is extremely quiet.
I agree with your opinions strongly i.e. EV's must stand alone & the fact you care so much about the UK motor industry is very important & admirable!
Barrie, you get riled up and you are thriving on all of this negative banter (shit) ! Hopefully you are making a buck doing this show...Merry Christmas from Australia, but is is possible you can find a more informative, fun & pleasant way to do your UA-cam channel please? 43 minutes & 19 seconds basically defending Madeline Ross!
I drove an electric van in the sixties it was awful. BR had a fleet of them
Barrie if 3 people come to you to saying they want to exchange an ev for diesel they want to exchange an ev for a diesel. If anybody doesn't want to exchange an ev for a diesel they aren't going to come to you to tell you that they don't want to exchange so how do you know?
I don't understand where these people get the money from to buy these EV monstrosities! In the last five years vehicle prices have more than doubled and the product (EV), does not have longevity.
Barry Crumpets.
So Barry the tweets asked you who to survey regarding EVs if not EV drivers, you did not give an answer.
Yep I did
@@BarrieCrampton not sure you did. watch your own vid, maybe you cut it out?
To be fair - if I wanted to buy an EV, I wouldn’t be searching general secondhand garages to buy one. You’re making statistical assumption based on a narrow view. I’m an ICE driver but every single person I know who’s had an EV has bought another one - another statistical assumption.
Ì had a Nissan leaf for 3 years the deprecation was frightening and lost a bloody fortune an̈d had to walk away from my pcp it's back to a ICE for me
@ . Why would you walk away from a PCP - it’s a rental, return it or buy it at the end, that’s the whole point.
@@bordersw1239erm it’s not though is it , a decent pcp will always leave you profit in the car if you keep it , my last car left me 9 k in it
I’ve had an EV for three years. Will never go back to yesterday’s inferior technology.
Barrie you do yourself no favours by the way you display your views, to me you think you are better than anybody else, you believe anybody who disagree with your views is an IDIOT, unfortunately there are great driving EV vehicles, as there are great driving ICE vehicles, there is no getting around the problem our oil is running out, even you must agree it will affect the cost of buying fuel. It is not a bad thing considering the environment and the damage we are all doing. I suppose you will disagree with this too, as it will not fit with your views ?
We can if you like have a challenge I will sit in my garage with the door closed, do my days work from my KIAEV3, it has a nice little work table for my use, I challenge you to do the same with the vehicle quoted in your video a discovery V6 same conditions, I bet you will change your mind and your views, the point I am making is both the cars are good and have a place, but they are not perfect. You have 2 ears and 1 mouth listen to all views before opening yours.
If by better you mean I tell the truth, then yes I am
@@BarrieCrampton I am not interested in getting into a debate, my point was about the way you put your views across, my views differ from yours, I do not agree with a lot of what you say, I can assure you I am not an idiot.
I have both types of vehicle in my household and they are both very good, both my cars are of good quality so I am in a good position to offer a my views here.
Its hard to consider a Citron AMI an electric vehicle that should fall into main stream debate.
Perhaps drive a decent electric vehicle and then comment ! yes they have issues but so does every ICE vehicle what ever the cost. For the record I also tell the truth, but I also listen and consider before I decide what I want to buy.
@ good, because I am sick of being called, old, senile, off my meds, mad, fud, dinosaur, stupid, uneducated, liar, etc, etc I have driven, 2 ipaces, A DS, an i3 my Ami, all great and perfect for my needs, so perhaps before you comment you should get your facts straight
@@BarrieCrampton Sorry for my late reply, obviously I have not belittled myself by name calling, I have not mentioned any listed, so I assume they are from others who respond to you..
I stand by my point regards the AMI I don't think we need to consider that in a debate about main stream electric vehicles, and I have no experiance or have no comments on the other vehicles you stated.
My comments are based on research and expperiances I have had in the real world. As an owner of a number of vehicles, 2 of them fully electric, 1 diesel all new vehicles so I am basing my views on modern vehicles, my VW E-UP is perfect for shorter journeys and drives faultlessly, far better than an ICE one, my other vehicles are personal for me and my wife and are both brand new. My views are based on facts and experience as an owner so I am well placed to comment on your videos. My facts are very straight.