Victor Wembanyama Is The NBA's Best Defensive Player
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2024
- Gil's Arena ERUPTS Over Victor Wembanyama vs Rudy Gobert for the NBA Defensive Player Of The Year Award as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew battle over if Wemby was snubbed of the award during his first NBA season and debate if Gobert's play during the NBA Playoffs changes anything about the perception of his stifling defense.
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The fact McCants can't realize he proved their point and can't understand it lol
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How?
Saying that Tayshaun prince was an all right defensive player is wild. He was the best perimeter defensive player in the NBA during his prime. The Pistons were loaded up with good defensive players Ben Wallace wasn't the same defensive player once he left the Pistons that's why his career ended no one remembers Chicago Bulls Ben Wallace😂
They have no point the wolves were a bad defensive team. That's why they traded for them now they're a good defensive team that is the metric that won him defensive player of the year.😂
that's infuriating! the award is called defensive PLAYER of the year not defensive TEAM! 3.6 blocks and 1.2 steals compared to Rudy's 2.1 and 0.7! clear as day that's a robbery!
There is a reason Hassan Whiteside didn’t win DPOY. Blocks are not great defense
It’s still a team game so you team success matters somewhat
You will never win an individual award if your team is 27th-30th in win shares. That simply means his defense is not translating to win shares. Great stats, zero actual impact.
there isn't a single defender in the history of the game whose defense would have impacted win shares that much to make that spurs team any better! if 3.6 and 1.2 isn't enough then they need to rename these awards as team accolades! in what world is 2.1 and 0.7 better than 3.6 and 1.2! no world! because it's not! @@badxgrass
him not winning the award doesn't mean his defense didn't impact win shares! that team is as awful as they come! saying his defense didn't impact win shares is like saying 3.6 blocks is actually 0.5! makes no sense! that TEAM is horrendous! @@badxgrass
Saying that Rudy is DPOY because he has a good team record and team defense is like saying Chet is the rookie of the year for the same reasons. They’re individual awards
Dpoy has been name like that for decades. Agree or not it s fact
And I was routing for jour a lists to break this record with Wemby
Still named 91 times in top 3 and first team D prob
MVP is an “individual award” too, but never goes to the best player lol
@@miked5651 didn't westbrook get it when okc was 6th in the west and 10th in the league??? You should give a certain edge to people who are first I agree but not always it depends on the situation
CHET lead the OKC to the 1st seed.
NOT SGA....SGA was having the same stats last season and didnt even made the play-offs,
SO it works in every AWARD.
MVP / DPOY / ROY , they are all a PLAYER award not a TEAM award..
Rudy is DPOY is because Wemby is a rookie and Rudy is not simple as that. Bird didnt won MVP as a rookie despite leading the celtics to the best record in the NBA. Kareem might of had slightly better stats but their is no logical reasoning to not give a rookie MVP that was the leader of their team and led them to the number 1 seed in the NBA. I dont know what a rookie can possibly do to win MVP or DPOY even if their team is good they will overlook them because they are rookies.
Historically yes it had to go to Gobert, but all I’m saying is that if you gave Wemby the supporting cast of defenders that Gobert got....he might win it unanimously 😂
Ima leave this here for everyone replying the exact same thing "Rudy won in Utah with lazy defenders"
What were the on/off numbers defensively on those Utah teams? Because for the spurs it was #2 defense with Wemby on, and #28 with him off. You can call the Utah defenders trash and lazy, but they never were so bad that it tanked the rating enough to matter outside of one year. Not to mention Wemby plays just under 30 minutes a game while Rudy routinely played 32-35 minutes (which if you want to argue that's why he didn't win then it's perfectly fair). You know the year that something similar happened to Gobert? 2022, when they were top 4 with Gobert on the court and last without him. And he got screwed over that year too because Marcus smart was playing with Derrick White, Jaylen Brown, Tatum, Rob Williams, Horford, etc. The voters were wrong then, and they're wrong this year too. The best and most impactful individual defender was clearly Wembanyama
It didn't. Voters just lazy
@@caldwmc this is also true, there's always a first for everything and Wemby the type of player you do that for
Yeah imagine if gobert had joe Ingles and Donovan Mitchell as his wing defenders.....it's not like gobert didn't anchor a defense to top ranked with 2 entirely different organizations or anything.....
why did it have to go to him? what is he the best at defensively?
@@coreystenson2010 you realize he also lost in 2022 because his team was completely awful defensively and voters held that against him right
Mccants is confused af. If Rudy and Wemby are interchangeable then that means you go to the numbers to break the ice, and Vuala, Wemby is the winner😂😂😂
that's spelled voilà !
@@naelbi8870 got the point, didn't you?
Wins matter.. only rookies get rewarded when playing on trash teams.
@@bickenbackbeinbool771 Not criticizing, just correcting
What or who is vuala?
They wasn't gonna give that boy (Wemby) no DPOY & ROY.... 😂😂Ain't no way....
That's some 2k shit , mines well add MVP the way They killed him this year *wemmmmmbaaaaanyamaaaaaa with the free throw
Because it would make him a better rookie than LeBron..and they don't like that.
@kevinyoan3134 LeBron?! LeBron literally lost a DPOY too with people protecting MJs goat status.
@@nitrologly with Marc Gasol winning DPOTY and didn’t even win first all NBA defense team 😂
And they want maccants to be wrong so bad that they can’t see that
This episode was 🔥🔥🔥🔥 straight barbershop vibes 😂😂
ALL I SEE IS THE NBA WANTS WEMBY TO PROVE HIMSELF MORE BEFORE GIVING HIM A TROPHY LIKE THAT , but he clearly deserved that more than rudy ,never seen teams refuse open lay ups cuz of rudy
exactly
Rudy Gobert never averaged 3 blocks and or a steal in any year.
kenyon martin is right lmao
lol I’m waiting for Rashad to get gangsta with him ☝🏿 time 🤦🏿♂️😮💨
Everything about his tone and how he talk to people me and and that mf would’ve had to move furniture couple times on this show 😂. Win, lose or draw and I’m only 6’3 260 but nah you not about to keep talking spicy to me and not whip my ass 4 times lol even then mf we’re gone keep fighting. lol I’d have to running dropkick that mf mid sentence like Liu Kang on that couch man.
Martin thinks he's tough guy
Tashawn prince was a good defensive player
He wrong
Just because you played basketball, does it mean that you watched it or studied it saying that Ben Wallace was the only good defensive player on the Pistons was just wild
KAT and Naz Reid both stepped up defensively in Game 2... Their effort was massive.
Jaden McDaniels will make All Defensive teams this year. Naz Reid won 6th man of the year and a big part of that is because of his defense. KAT was surprisingly impressive. Ant is a good defender. The team is elite defensively even without Rudy. Rudy Gobert is just the icing on the cake
Where was they ranked before Rudy got there ?
Boy that Defense was immaculately… it’s like they knew they was missing a piece in Rudy and they was jus hungry on defense
They are 1 defense even without gobert
@@MrDiMES123 not when he wasn’t on the team
The nba took an individual award and gave it to a team. Wemby deserved it. He’s a better defender.
Man, your comment actually says it all.
The flat-out true is the league didn't want Wemby to win the award because he was a rookie
That doesn't make much sense. Wemby is hyped to the skies.
Why wouldn't the NBA (A money making venture) give the face of the league (because wemby is the #1 recognizable baller to date) a DPOY? Because his defense didn't translate to at least a playoff spot. Sure, he's a rookie. I won't hold it against him.
@@OMGitsTerasuso it’s essentially a team award. The numbers showed Wemby’s value but because Minnesota got the #3 seed, it went to Rudy
See stuff like that in mlb as well, too try and keep the integrity of the game “no way he’s that good his first year in the NBA he still needs to put on some weight🤓” especially when everybody was questioning how he would fair against the best of the best and 9/10 held his own. we’ll look back on this in a few years as a very underappreciated season from a 19 y/o kid. number don’t lie
Or, he just wasn't the defensive player of the year.
Martin was so mad at the 8 min mark 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he had to remember where he was
I think McCant can beat his ass
@@ronaldhazley7859whatever you smoking I want some lol
@@holahovito13 I believe he can
Mccants 6'5 240 he aint little @@holahovito13
Rudy just holding that award for Wemby is all.
He'll get it when gobert is dun
I’m calling it rn he’s gonna get it next year
@@playahdub5287When Rudy is done. Wemby should of got it this year.
Its Defensive player of the year not Defense team of the year!!!
It’s defensive player of the year not defensive player of the last 2 months
So according to Rashad you could be the best Qb in the NFL even if you get hurt and your team average the same amount of yards and points without you then u can still be the best😂😂 like tf. The teams gives up one more point when Rudy ISNT on the court. The spurs give up double digits points when Wemby not on court
Ur analogy doesn't work cuz it was only 1GAME. the award should've gone to AD or Bam
@@Atlas365247 AD OR BAM?????😭😭😭
The patriots were 11-5 when Brady hurt his knee. Is he still not the goat?
@@Atlas365247 DPOY can't be on a bad team.
One game in the postseason, has no effect on an award thats for the entire regular season. If thats the case, Anthony Edwards should be MVP
Minnesota wasn't even top 20 defense before Rudy joined the team and they suddenly became best defensive team and yall acting like there's no correlation ? 🤨
Shhhh that's too much thinking for most NBA fana
Great point.
Meanwhile the Spurs won the same games as last year as they won this year
I guess Finch becoming the coach didn’t matter. They getting Alexander or McDaniel being a couple of years older. Rudy overrated..
Correlation doesn't imply causation. I can think of two other additions or even a shift in defensive game plan that could shift DER numbers.
The way McCants just doubles and triples down on stupidity just amazes me
Facts 💯
😂
Every Time...FACTS
McCants seems like a person who would argue with his wife just for the sake of disagreeing.
Absolutely a devil advocate without trying
naw they belittle him cuz he aint great but his points r valid
@@rugarozay129he has a point once a week, the rest is nonsense just for the argument.
So... a woman?
I'm not a stat man either. I hate when people use stats. But clearly Wemby has put up better numbers than Rudy ever has. When the difference is that glaringly higher you can't just overlook that. If wemby had 2.0 blocks per game, Gobert had 1.8, Wemby had 1.2 steals, and Gobert has 1.1 and their defensive rating was 108 for Gobert and Wemby was like 110. I'd be like okay Gobert still is putting up similar numbers. He's on the best defensive team and is a consistent defender i'd be like alright Gobert clearly is a good defender and helps make his team good defenders. But Wemby putting up way better numbers Gobert has never reached. I don't see how you can overlook that. And dude is a ROOKIE. Let's be honest. He got snubbed. They don't want to give it to a rookie. Gobert is the safe pick. That's what this is. Gobert is the safe pick and people don't want to rock the boat.
Even in that case it should still be wemby
Duncan never won DPOY and is one of the greatest defenders in the game 15 time all team defense with a bunch of successful winning seasons and championships so I don't wanna hear that "you gotta win" argument y'all just moving the goal post
So why do people say MVP gotta have a winning record too then? It’s all individual rewards right?
@@kouleeofficialdon't ask me I don't think that should be an issue if it's not written in stone a lot of these awards are handed by emotions from these voters which is dumb
has there ever been a DPOY on a 20 win team? Very curious.
@@Shortballa11I mean too be fair have you ever seen a 7’5 KID guard 1-5 with damn near 4 blocks his 1st season on a minutes restriction😂? Like cmon now Jeremy sochan was the starting pg at one point😐. And Quiet as kept they would have been even lower in the standings behind the pistons without wemby, it’s not rewarding losing it’s rewarding who is more impactful and simply put, better at defense. it’s not a team award. the fact u brought up win count shows that’s how u think which makes no sense at all😂 your taking Rudy gobert over the alien out there in SA? Yeah right. Must be a Rudy superfan if that’s the reason
defensive teams mean nothing..
So the criteria to win DPOY is just block shots and rebound? Because if it wasn't, Bam and AD would've won multiple by now
Facts. AD and Bam literally guard 1-5.
Bam💀 no
@@Bob-te3lewemby do to did you watch any of his games
@jthreee.3755 Wemby's footwork and length allows him to switch well defensively, but actually, consistently GUARDING 1-5 that's only AD and Bam. Gobert gets cooked on the perimeter every game lol
@@Willy_Jeandoesn’t. That’s why they sweeping
Tayshuan Prince was a great defender .. Martin is wrong on that one
Bruh mccants has to have CTE cuz wtf did I hear come from his mouth 😂😂
Mccants couldn’t even look Kenyon in the face😂😂
Kat STAYS in foul trouble, the fact that he thinks Kat is a defensive player & an anchor shows he's either lying for his point or just shows how much he hasn't watched Minn this yr
He was never a defensive player but he was a above average defender before Rudy got there
He was the worst defensive center in the league actually
@@blakelarson5005 you’re thinking of vucevic, you’re clearly a casual who don’t watch games.
KAT played great defense in the regular season.
@@TheHomieTitz No, KAT was often graded out DEAD LAST on defense, so maybe you’re the casual..
Mccants is annoying bro.
He's revolting. That's why he's the MVP of the show.
Facts bro
Kenyon is. Man thinks he can LIL DUDE folks
McCants like arguing just to make the show a good debate show
Naw goofy ya slow ass is irritating u just dick ride whatever Gil say
Im a simple man, as soon as I hear McCants voice I find a new video to watch
I've never watched NBA games and seen guys right under the basket dribble out or pass out just because Wemby is there. This will not age well.
😂 😂 I think this is one the best ones. They are hilarious. It’s like being in the barbershop while I’m driving to work.
McCants got butt hurt when k mart said “I was an all star” lol
DPOY is a individual award & yet mfs keep saying team like it’s a team award
Kenyon Martin is the drunk uncle at the cook out😂
And bases his opinions based on who he likes.
Waiting for them to tell Mcants “fuck outta here” 😂
Wemby was robbed.
But Gobert literally stopping the entire league won’t ever be topped 😂
Wemby wasn't robbed. Wemby didn't play elite defense yet, in his rookie season.
@@penkima4923he did better than Rudy
@@saucyboi7789 Rudy played best defense in the league, so no.
@@penkima4923 didnt lead a single defensive stat....
@@penkima4923 just not true 😂 what stats did he lead? He’s very good but it’s his team that won him it.
McCants is completely dismantled here. "If he wasn't on as good a team his numbers would go up", well that's not the case because he's had his best statistical year. "Not about numbers it's about what you do for your team", well what they do without him is the same with him so how much is he really impacting...
Precisely...
Without him they weren't even top 20 defense lol then he got traded to Minnesota and changed the whole culture into best defensive team
Playoff intensity is a real thing, only with game planning you don't show during reg season. Since Game 1 Naz Reid has defended Jokic the best b/c of his build. Kenyon was right & wrong. Ben Wallace was the reason they won, Prince defense was top tier, that's why he was on Olympic team. But him saying he played the Pistons vs Rashad playing against them doesn't matter. Rudy has to get the award over a player who team only had 13wins. You would reward losing period
What's Wemby impacting??? Absolutely nothing. Spurs were trash last year and are trash this year. Same number of wins. So where's the impact your so called DPOY made? -Here's a magnifying glass, cause you might need it to find his impact.
@@sonikspeed19yall keep makin a personal award a team thing, its DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. Wemby played the best defense in the league period and yall puttin him up against whole teams
If you take Ben Wallace off that Pistons team they maybe wouldn’t have won a championship but they were all still great defenders around Ben Wallace, Rip Hamilton was a decent defender, Chancy Billups used to lock dudes up, Tayshon Prince was a GREAT defender & Rasheed Wallace was a good defender as well, Ben Wallace anchored the defense & was the most important piece the same with Gobert. It took me awhile to give Gobert his credit too but this year him getting the award is kinda undeniable & deserved in my opinion & I’ve never been a Wolves fan in my life before anybody thinks I’m just being bias
It’s not a maybe they wouldn’t have, he had the assignment too guard Shaq who else would have on that pistons team?
Gobert does not anchor the Timberwolves defense.
@@llock3hart 😂
@@llock3hartretard alert
Ignore this retard and their statements
Your forgetting our bench more lockdown defenders
McCants be on 1 everyday. 😂 gotta tune in!!!
I love this show! It reminds me of playing and talking on the Davison street basketball court in Detroit on a Saturday morning.
That cup sip by Mccant was hilarious
They should change it to defensive team of the year instead of defensive player of the year 😂
Gil and K-Mart just started watching T’wolves games in the playoffs. A guard being the anchor of the defense is crazy
These arguments be funny 😂😂😂
Kenyon act like he the only one that played them💀
Kenyon was on the same conference during the piston peek while rashad was on the west it's different playing a team 2 times in 82 games than playing them 4 times or more including playoffs, don't forget due to back to back games rashad might not have played against the full team.
Kenyon Martin went to the finals in 2002 & in 2003 , also in 03 he swept the Pistons with Ben Wallace in the Conf. Finals . Then in 04 it went 7 games in the Semis en route to Detroit winning the chip . Wallace left Detroit in 06 Mccants drafted in 05’. You & Him don’t make sense
@@RalphGaming101💯😭
@@RalphGaming101 why would you wanna embarassed a guy like that😭😭
@@marinoevardo2581 Mccants was drafted in 05 had a 4 year career after the prime of the detroit pistons. like what he talking about bro? he played against who? 😂
I feel like if everything is so based on how good your team is just pick the MVP and DPOY from the best team each year?
Or do like baseball and pick one each from each conference
The MVP-award shouldn't be called the most valuable player award anymore, then. The better the team, the less valuable a single player is on it. There are exceptions, but very few can be confirmed.
That's usually how it go
there's a margin between the best team and a 22-60 team
I knew McCants and Kenyon we're going to start going at it soon. I just hope it builds up to them sparring at the boxing gym 😂😂
McCants is so right… and my guy K Mart actually proved his point by talking about Ben Wallace and the Pistons.
Now to say that Gobert’s impact isn’t felt and is a good reason why the guards play so tough defensively is infuriating.
We just watched Ant, McDaniels, Nickeil Alexander-Walker give KD, Devin Booker, Brad Beal and now Jamal Murray problems. It’s debatable he’s not even the best defender on that team.
Delusional 😂
@@curtiszyr must be talking about yourself
@@brandond2233 nope that’s you
@@curtiszyr I’ve never seen anybody score 50 on 70% shooting against Ant or Jaden McDaniels so it’s gotta be you buddy.
@@brandond2233 4x dpoy . Stay delusional
Yall just need to wear "I Hate Euros" T-shirts from now on 😂. Rudy anchors the best defense in the league, enough said.
Wemby is also a Euro dumbass💀💀💀
So that means he’s the best defender in the league? It’s an individual award why does that even matter?😂 totals and averages all point too wemby
@@majestyirving1372 Has any player from a bottom feeding team won MVP or DPOY, ever? If you have great individual stats but are bottom feeding in the league as a team, that is what we call "stat padding" for a lack of a better term. Your body of work has to have actual impact in increasing the team's regular season wins. The spurs last year were a bottom feeding team, this year, same shit. So does wemby's stats actually have impact? No. Hence, no award.
@@badxgrass There has never been a player this talented on a bottom feeding team. And if you think so show me the numbers from them that season and are they even comparable to wemby this season? No. like I said “numbers don’t lie” the spurs don’t beat the suns without wemby and like many other games from this season. how many wins do you think they would have without him realistically? His stats are most definitely impactful he was around a horrible supporting cast and not just on the defensive side. He was literally on a minute restriction because of that fact they weren’t going too win anything anyways and it would be pointless if he got hurt. If you’re taking Rudy gobert over wemby personally then I already see where the disconnect is, u have no point too even back that up without saying anything about team wins or team defensive ratings, are we not using context now🤨, player for player it’s not even close. do not act dense
@@majestyirving1372 You're crazy if you think numbers don't lie. Statistics is literally a lie. You can use the same numbers to make a case for both sides by spinning it a different way. Wemby went to a trash team, probably worst in the league, and got a bunch of stats, but they have the same wins they had last year... so WHERE THE HELL IS HIS IMPACT???
They literally gave him the ball on every play and let him be a 1 man team. So no shit he'll have lots of "numbers" but none of them were meaningful. It's empty calories. If you can't see that, then you're just a fanboy whose opinion doesn't matter cause you won't listen to reason regardless of the truth.
Kenyon is hilarious. The looks he gives when Rashad is saying some dumb shit have me on the floor. I swear I have the same looks on my face every time McCantgetright speaks....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Chauncey Billups 2 time second team all defense…..yet they trying to say Chauncey was TRASH defensively 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
He was Guards Iike Nash, Parker, Iverson, Steve Francis, and Dwayne Wade would always blow by him 😂💯
Yall Acting like the wolves wasn't a bottom defense team before gobert got there 😒
100%
Wemby on the TWolves woudnt be fair
This the best podcast out there LOL
"I PLAYED AGAINST EM 🥷"! 😆😆🤣
Mccants vs Kenyon in a boxing match 😂
Gil and Kenyon making bad arguments...Why are they acting like Detroit wasnt still a good defensive team after Ben left? They praised Marcus Smarts DPOY, and Boston was full of a good defenders. Penalizing Gobert for having other good defenders is actual brain dead shit
they're not penalizing him for it. The conversation started with the stats which Wemby led Gobert in every defensive stat and Mccants tried to use the teams record to justify the work of the individual which doesn't make sense because the Twolves are a good defensive team without him which was proven already.
Gobert is the reason the rest of the Wolves play elite defense now.
So how can we penalize wemby for having bad defenders and down-right bad team players on his team? It goes both ways💯 numbers don’t lie and the kid wasn’t even allowed too play full games due too his minute restrictions because pop and the org knew they were terrible. Was no way they were winning anything anyways. If this was just his introduction people will look back and question why he didn’t get the award regardless of what his teammates were capable of.
@@brandoncox5257 Mccants is a retard, idc about his point, he should be off the show. My point is Rudy shouldnt be penalized, he obviously has a big effect on the best defensive team in the league right? The best defensive player on the best defence, that also had good stats won, period.
@@majestyirving1372 nobody penalized wemby. Winning because of numbers isnt consistent. Go look at Marcus Smarts DPOY. If Rebs, Stls, Blks, DPM, DRTG are measurements for DPOYS, then there was like 8 players who had better stats in majority of those....yall wanna marry numbers when its convenient for your argument
Hey, I love this show 😮
Can't believe I'm with McCants on this 🤣
I'm not gonna lie McCants is dead right.....and I don't think Rudy is any good🤣🤣
Rudy is the defensive coach of the Wolves team. They went from average defensive team in the league, to #1, after Rudy joined the team. And Rudy is the best defender in the league also individually.
@@penkima4923 obviously not if you put another persons stats next to his and they are all better ? him joining a team two seasons ago is irrelevant?
@@relltherealone If the Wolves' defense is #1 in the league, and Gobert is the best defender on the Wolves, what's obvious and what's irrelevant?
Notice McCants neverrrrrrr talks that crazy talk to Kenyon Martin like he does anyone else on Gil’ show 😂😂
I guess he just respects the OG
Scared of him. He loves raising his voice at Brandon
@jomen7961 yeah respects for KJ to dogwalk his azz...he yells at Gil and the other guess but Kenyon called him all kind of niggahs he never raised his voice once
Guards the anchor is wild 😂 they just arguing to argue now
Honestly they can give it to whoever. But the fact that the 1st place voting wasn’t close shows me it was Rudy’s award to lose. It should’ve been a lot closer for 1st place votes. The fact he said KAT was an anchor….. that was wild
funny how rashad has been the voice of reason all playoffs, very dramatic turn lol kenyon is an angry old man and gil is a clutch sports representative.
You’re weird lol he’s objectively wrong here. And you mentioned clutch sports when it wasn’t in the topic, get LeBron nuts out your mouth
He’s the best part of the show.
@@dpistons149 without a doubt, even when he says rly dumb shit it’s always the best pop this show gets
Thank you so much Gil for stepping in a making a point about the wolves shutting down Denver while Rudy was out.
They didn't shut down Denver. Murray has been playing bad for a while, even with Lakers. Jokic has been ok, but not as good as last year, even against the Lakers. There's a reason Nuggets were down almost every game against Lakers. They just won cause the other team got tired and made mistakes. But Minnesotta is younger and can match up better with them.
Man this episode was hilarious McCants going off on tangents, Gil bringing up 10 different scenarios to back up his arguments, KMart damn near ready to throw down. Barbershop vibes fr, this shit too good lmfaooo
Who ever voted Sabonis should never be allowed to vote again.
who ever voted for SGA to MVP shouldnt be allowed to vote again...oh wait the same guys who put him last season at the 5th in the mvp without making the play-offs..
CHECK again who were they...
Ive never seen a player on a team that far under 500 when DPOY. shit would never happen, i dont care if he averaged 10blks per game. It has to translate to some sort of winning!
MANUTE BOL on his rookie season lead the league with 5 blocks per game and made the play-offs and didnt won the award...the award was to another player A.ROBERTSON who also made the play-offs and made his team actually a team harder to score against.
@@onlyfacts3178 exactly! Imagine them giving the MVP to a player who averages 37.1ppg, 4.6asts, 5.2 rebs, 2.9 stls with a team record of 40-42 over a player who averages 23.9ppg, 12.2asts, 6.3rebs, 1.7stls with a 65-17!
I fucking love Rashad shooting his shots at the whole crew everyday🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They hatin on Rudy worse than Shaq 😂
McCants was making a great point about Gobert anchoring the defense. The reason they held it down for one game is because Naz Reid anchored the defense better than anyone else expected. He doesn’t usually play that role when Rudy plays. Naz playing a great defensive game takes nothing away from what Rudy did for the season.
Take Wemby away and the Spurs fall apart. Take Rudy away and the Wolves give up one extra point 😂
Karl-Anthony Towns used to be one of the laziest star players in the league, and Gobert got him playing great defense. Gobert should be awarded the DPotY-award for that feat alone.
How does a team fall apart when it’s already broken
Wemby was clearly the best defensive player. He got scammed. If he was on the twolves and not gobert everyone would be complaining about a dynasty in the making. I hate the people who vote. Such trash.
Not with less than 20 wins
@@user-cs1pi8zg1n I don’t care if he has zero wins. He was the best defensive player in the league.
@@ikiwheese according to what?
Without gobert Minnesota still clamped Denver
Its cool, Wemby said Rudy got it this year. Next year is his!
Shad had good points until he said interchangeable
Yall know damn well what McCants saying is right yall just don’t like him to fit the crowd smh.
Wemby got those stats on bad team playing less minutes.
“ the guards are anchoring their defense “ 💀🤦🏾♂️
You seen What Ant/McDaniels/Alexander-Walker did to KD, Book, & Beal? Now You seeing it with Murray & MPJ. Wassup Now Genius? You lack an understanding of Defense. Naz Reid Handled Jokic without Gobert 💯🎤
Mccants just like to hear himself talk at this point, cause didn’t he say POP wasn’t a good coach because he only won when he had great Talent on his team?
It's true tho. No matter how much you kiss-ups dislike it, Pop never made team above average or good. He could only make loaded teams into great... but at that point it's mainly the talented players that win. See Steve Kerr's comments when he coached the KD and Steph Warriors. He said he doesn't have to do much coaching, he just let's them play. Spurs have same number of wins this year as last year... and Pop had the #1 rookie on the team. So why he ain't get them further???
Pop put 2nd rounders in position to be all stars and hall of famers, he has PLENTY of clutch plays he drew up himself. Pop IQ shows on the highest stage, he knew how to beat lebron, wade and bosh to stop a 3peat
@@jaybriggs2430 With a loaded Spurs team, sure. But the true great coaches can make good out of a bad team. See Spo in Miami. He got Jimmy Butler and a bunch of nobodies to the NBA championship. Pop has a so called generational player in Wemby and he's still tanking for more talent in the draft. That tells me he can't coach unless he has stacked teams.
@@jaybriggs2430 you said 2nd rounders in plural lol when it was only 1(ginobli). Manu is arguably the greatest player to ever come out of Argentina. That had nothing to do with pop.
If Wembanyama and Robert swap teams who performs better
2 different type of players...
@@juniorwalker2643Yeah I hate when people ask that question like different teams have different needs lol everyone don’t fit on every team
@@slimeball112 People think it's 2K. They didn't learn from the Bradley Beal trade and other horrendous trades that looked good on paper but failed
@@radicalmatamunecompletely different Beal doesn’t fit the suns at all they lack a facilitator and run str8 iso. Wemby would fit into the wolves really well would be great defensively and could also space the floor out as well
Who the hell is Robert
I see what McCants is saying.. basically the team is stacked with so many good defensive players so taking him out doesn’t necessarily hurt their defense…. Butttttt having them on the court stops Rudy from reaching his full potential defensively.. we don’t know what Rudy would look like in a system likes let’s say the spurs simply bc the opportunity never presented itself but if you put Wemby on the Wolves they are so stacked defensively that he wouldn’t have been able to average what he averaged on the spurs bc he wouldn’t need to work as hard… numbers don’t always tell everything.. similar to how Russell was a triple double god when the system worked for him, but will never be the same player on any other team… they gave it Rudy bc Rudy has shown us he can be this caliber of a defender on ANY team.. Wemby is a Rookie on a average defensive team of course he was gonna shine, just like how Russell Westbrook effortlessly averaged triple double them went to a different team and was never the same player
You make absolutely no sense
@@jaybriggs2430 your opinion is subjective 1 of a million, just like mine.. thanks for commenting
Gobert also never averaged close to 4 blocks and never averaged 1 steal a game. Through out any of his career. Rashad be smoking dope
They gotta tear Antman down to keep mike up. Cant have a 22 yr old looking like he did shht by himself. About to be 2 or 3 wolves elevated to hof status.
Gobert just won his fourth defensive player of the year award. That's the most in history, tied with two other players. Gobert is the most important player on the Wolves team. He's already a HoFer. Gobert got Ant playing elite defense, so Ant has a high chance making the HoF some day, as well.
It's the 2nd playoff series calm down. Ant-Man is a bonafided leader but he has to finish the season. Baby Jordan already told you to stop the premature comparison. He has a lot to do to meet that mark nd he's capable. You already crowning him nd he ain't won shit. They were talking repeat for Jokic last yr now he getting shut down
Who’s taring ant man down🤦🏿♂️
ANT his WOLVES 3rd best player..he is like J.STACKHOUSE but with less talent..
They gotta start only letting former players vote. How tf Gobert win? He literally gets played of the court if the other teams center shoots 3s
I wasn't expect this slang i'm speechless and crying as a french lmao 1:08
The DPOY can’t give up 70 to the guy he’s guarding ….. now im not saying wemby isn’t a great defender we all know what his future holds but if we having these debates we have to be fair to both parties
he didnt give up 70, he didnt guard him on every play, this is just a lie, most of embiid's buckets were not on wemby at all that game
Embiid dropped 51 on 70% shooting on Rudy Gobert tho 😂 he gave bam 30 on 29 minutes and one leg, AD 30 point triple double in three quarters, Embiid don’t count he do ts to everyone
he dropped 30 of those 70 on wemby stop it he scored most of his points on zach collins
He barely guarded him😂
he only scored 16 of those pts on Wemby goofy
This is one time I agree with McCann
Lmao “we didn’t have the ball so I guess we was on defense” lmao
YOU CANNOT DETERMINE DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR BY STATS ALONE - If we only go off blocks etc how did Marcus Smart win? If we go off steals why hasn't CP3 won?? The award SHOULD go to the player who plays the type of defense that equates to TEAM SUCCESS!!!! The Wolves put BTA in the Western Conference this season.... but Wemby gonna get some hardware real soon no diddy
Right !
I agree with them for the most part but i hate when people think just bc your team still competes without you onnthe court means your not rlly not as impactful as sombody else who team sucks when they're out
Team sucks when in too
🤡🤡🤡Clown's arena back at it again !
kenyon said “wtf are you talking about” 😂😂😂😂😂
I really hope bro grow to reach his full potential & capabilities..🐐 shit..🤷🏽♂️
I think McCants is right
McCants is actually right here… The rest are bugging 😂
No way he said Kat was the anchor💀💀💀💀he just tryna argue to argue
Ya gotta chill w the captions😭😭
Kenyon proved mccants point he anchors the defense
Wrong. When Rudy isn’t on the floor the timberwolves defense barely takes a hit. When wemby is on the floor the Spurs literally go from the worst rated defense to the number 2 or number one in the league. Objectively he has the highest defensive impact on the league.
@@MajiinQ94 Wrong. When Rudy wasn't in Minnesota, they weren't even top 20 defense, when he joined the Wolves they became best defensive team. Objectively, he has the highest defensive impact on the league.
@@radicalmatamune that would be true if Gobert was the only defensive move they made since then. Logical fallacy.
@@brandoncox5257 Except Gobert was an already 3x DPOY who made Utah a top defensive team for years, if you're trying to equate that to Alexander-Walker joining the team, then that's the logical fallacy
@@radicalmatamuneyeah he literally came up off 3x DPOY and won it there immediately. He def had the bigger impact cuz Tims had defense but it wasn’t like this. Spurs have wemby an that’s it. Team sucked but he had all the stats on both ends. Rudy numbers dropped cuz he playin w a star and an all star. All of who grab boards and live at the rim and take threes. Which Rudy doesn’t. He grabs boards forces steals and gets blocks and on top of that spreads that mentality. Which is why u see ant man breakin his face damn near to get game winning blocks
Gil Be Saying Shit Just For Clicks My Boy Mccants Be Speaking Real Shit 💯💪🏾
Gil speaks nonsense 60% of the time but McCants 90%.