The BERG X Drama (Explained)
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“The berg is a crutch”
A statement that not everyone may agree with (and I totally get why some people love the disc) but I think if you look at it the same way as these two examples it might make more sense.
1. You will often hear old time disc golfers (even Climo has said it) who had to develop there putt on old shit baskets that putting soft and learning to “set” the putt into the basket is a skill itself and the players who have developed that compared to the new school “putt as hard as you possibly can” Gannon buhr style (no hate to him) simple lack the skill of touch on the putting green.
2. Everyone know that beginner that throws a full flight 250ft destroyer on forehand and is super accurate when that shot is available, but in any other situation they are trash. We’ve all heard it “start with putters only” or “don’t throw distance drivers when you first start playing” and that’s because it teaches bad habits that might be hard to overcome later on.
Basically what I’m saying is I think the “berg” style approach disc can fall into a similar category. Disc golf is a skilled sport and learning all the skills is super valuable. (Even how to throw a berg) I just think for most players especially ones newer to the game, there is much more value in learning a touch putter upshot with an Aviar than dumping a berg at the basket with no skill involved because it’s easy to not mess up.
Also keep in mind my opinion on this comes from experience as someone who relied heavily on a berg for many years.
Also keep in mind I don’t actually care at all if you throw/enjoy the berg because the beauty of disc golf is we can all throw whatever we want and the options are endless. When it comes down to it we’re all gonna get waxed by the old guy that only throws a sidewinder and has putted the same Aviar for the last 20 years anyway🤝
Why care? Just seems like people want to be judgemental for no reason.
I mean yes, but also, if the shot works in most cases just do it in those cases - and if a player is lacking in a certain skillset which this crutch can't take care of they have the responsibility to make the decision to practice that or not.
I think it's a great idea to bag a Berg, even if it's a crutch, if it helps with getting easier shots for upshots - because it's a bad idea in general to try to learn too many things at once. - Now I'm not a disc golf pro at all, I've played like 3 rounds this summer and last time before that was 10+ years ago - but I know a few things about mastering crafts, and one of the important things is to learn at a pace which is manageable. It's not a race, it's a marathon. While Player A plays different drive shots, always saves it with a reliable upshot, to get the putt - Player B is practicing different tactics on multiple shots per hole. In this super specific scenario, which I have no idea if it's realistic or not; Player A gets direct feedback on the round from the shots that aren't crutches, and that's reflected in the total score over time. Player B might do some things better, and some things worse, but it's harder to decisively tell the improvement in the total score of rounds as this generally will also result in a wider variance.
Something something you don't have to learn it all at once, it's fine to use crutches while learning other aspects of the game, and that's generally the most efficient way of improving - Target practice.
Yo dude!!! Thanks for the shoutout!!! 😊😊😊
Thanks for the side profile 🤝
My game needs a crutch. My game needs a full body cast.
250 foot full flight destroyer throwers 😆
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I don't have a Berg but I do have a lid to a Home Depot 5 gallon bucket and I can confirm, they fly exactly the same
Lol yes🤝
No disc is a crutch. Every disc has its use and it's different for everyone.
My thoughts🤝
“The berg is a crutch”
A statement that not everyone may agree with (and I totally get why some people love the disc) but I think if you look at it the same way as these two examples it might make more sense.
1. You will often hear old time disc golfers (even Climo has said it) who had to develop there putt on old shit baskets that putting soft and learning to “set” the putt into the basket is a skill itself and the players who have developed that compared to the new school “putt as hard as you possibly can” Gannon buhr style (no hate to him) simple lack the skill of touch on the putting green.
2. Everyone know that beginner that throws a full flight 250ft destroyer on forehand and is super accurate when that shot is available, but in any other situation they are trash. We’ve all heard it “start with putters only” or “don’t throw distance drivers when you first start playing” and that’s because it teaches bad habits that might be hard to overcome later on.
Basically what I’m saying is I think the “berg” style approach disc can fall into a similar category. Disc golf is a skilled sport and learning all the skills is super valuable. (Even how to throw a berg) I just think for most players especially ones newer to the game, there is much more value in learning a touch putter upshot with an Aviar than dumping a berg at the basket with no skill involved because it’s easy to not mess up.
Also keep in mind my opinion on this comes from experience as someone who relied heavily on a berg for many years.
Also keep in mind I don’t actually care at all if you throw/enjoy the berg because the beauty of disc golf is we can all throw whatever we want and the options are endless. When it comes down to it we’re all gonna get waxed by the old guy that only throws a sidewinder and has putted the same Aviar for the last 20 years anyway🤝
I don't understand why your subscriber count is so low. You make great, entertaining content. Thanks for giving your opinion and showing us the Bergx
Appreciate that🤝 this UA-cam is pretty new and I’ve grown at a very steady pace. Obviously I wish it were more but we’re on the way🚀🤝
for real literally him and bodanza are the best content disc golf easily. I hope they do more collabs soon
He’s going to blow up. Best UA-cam DG channel imo. He’s hilarious and had a sick forehand
I hadn't seen your vids in my feed for a while and then couldn't remember the name of your channel. Had to search for "Minnesota summer disc golf sucks." That did the trick.@@broderic
So basically its a disc you can backhand and forehand, throw straight, flex, curve, and throw perfect short rollers with, you can be touchy with it and you can throw it as hard as you want, and because of all that, it’s a disc people SHOULDN’T bag?
Makes no sense.
I get the “you’ll lose the touch” point, but who says you can’t be good at both?
My thoughts further explained if you care to read🤝
“The berg is a crutch”
A statement that not everyone may agree with (and I totally get why some people love the disc) but I think if you look at it the same way as these two examples it might make more sense.
1. You will often hear old time disc golfers (even Climo has said it) who had to develop there putt on old shit baskets that putting soft and learning to “set” the putt into the basket is a skill itself and the players who have developed that compared to the new school “putt as hard as you possibly can” Gannon buhr style (no hate to him) simple lack the skill of touch on the putting green.
2. Everyone know that beginner that throws a full flight 250ft destroyer on forehand and is super accurate when that shot is available, but in any other situation they are trash. We’ve all heard it “start with putters only” or “don’t throw distance drivers when you first start playing” and that’s because it teaches bad habits that might be hard to overcome later on.
Basically what I’m saying is I think the “berg” style approach disc can fall into a similar category. Disc golf is a skilled sport and learning all the skills is super valuable. (Even how to throw a berg) I just think for most players especially ones newer to the game, there is much more value in learning a touch putter upshot with an Aviar than dumping a berg at the basket with no skill involved because it’s easy to not mess up.
Also keep in mind my opinion on this comes from experience as someone who relied heavily on a berg for many years.
Also keep in mind I don’t actually care at all if you throw/enjoy the berg because the beauty of disc golf is we can all throw whatever we want and the options are endless. When it comes down to it we’re all gonna get waxed by the old guy that only throws a sidewinder and has putted the same Aviar for the last 20 years anyway🤝
@@broderic yeah true, i agree that learning how to be touchy is very important, but it’s also important to be able to perform under any weather and circumstances, and being great with a berg is gonna work in any circumstances and conditions there is, while those touchy shots with a glidey and understable putter won’t.
Those old heads may beat me in perfect conditions with their beat up DX leopards in the woods, but when we have to throw a 400ft shot in the wind, they finish at the bottom every time, while i’m gonna be in contention in both.
Obviously the best of both worlds is the best, but if i have to pick one, i’m gonna pick the one that does the same thing in the best conditions as it does in the worst conditions.
For example, we just had our club championship two weeks ago, two courses, one wooded technical course and one open park style course. I finished 2nd place with my style, and all the old heads and touchy players finished at the bottom because it was windy.
Also, i live in Sweden, the old heads that beats you here are the ones who bags a Berg😂 usually puts with them as well
But the reason why i started bagging a berg is because i kept getting beaten by dudes who mastered upshots and approaches with it, backhand, forehand, everything 150ft and in, they were under the basket every time with a tap in for a birdie while i had a 30 footer because of ground play, and unfortunately i’m not paul mcbeth so they aren’t automatic yet
Will i bag a berg x? Probably not.
Do i bag a berg? Yeah, a k1 soft, but i dont really use it much.
I think the one time it's useful is if I'm approaching to a super fast green where i just know any hard plastic is gonna skip.
This is true🤝
250 full flight destroyers going to be coming at you hard after that berg X flex!!!
I ain’t scared🤝
I think of turn and fade as high and low speed stability. Having a negative HSS would mean the disc will turn right (assuming RHBH) as it's thrown harder while a positive HSS would mean it'll turn left, or fade, more as it's thrown harder. Much like someone throwing a destroyer 250ft will never see that -1 turn, you won't see the positive turn if the disc is thrown lightly. 🤝
300 foot G Star Roadrunner bombers from UA-cam just released adjusted Time Lapse flight numbers: 12/1/2/4
Seems accurate 🤷🏽♂️🤝
Honestly it’s a breath of fresh air to have a UA-cam disgolfer that talks that. I think you should turn it up and make more wicked forehand videos and you’ll blow up
“If you turn this thing sideways, it’s damn near a wheel” 😂
So I get what you're saying about this being a potential crutch, but at the same time I want to respond: "Throwing putters is a crutch for the short game. Get som skill and throw drivers for those 200' and in shots."
Crutch or not, if it produces the desired results, why not use it?
Throwing drivers is a crutch. Just learn to throw putters farther weakling.
I'm not even one minute in and I'm already out. He straight up lied and said "...most disc golfers are smart..." 🤐
"before Eric Oakley..." Alright I'm back in .
He’s back🤝
I think the low glide is what makes it straight when thrown soft and os when thrown hard. its shaped in a way that it should fly os but since it has no glide, when you throw it soft theres not enough air under the disc to push on the fade so is just drops instead? idk if that makes any sense lol!
Honestly, this is the best explanation I’ve heard🤷🏽♂️🤝
I would say that positive turn means that it's verry torque resistant, but it is also suposed to fade its whole flight
Makes sense🤝
Is it weird that the thing I like most about your channel is that you cuss constantly... thanks for keeping it real for the rest of us disc golf dirt bags out there...
I used to putt with a K3 Berg. Being a spin putter in Oklahoma winds, it was for me a good option to not blow too far past the basket if I missed, The camera looked really good in this video, did u change something or is it just me?
Cheers for the content as per usual, Brod. I've been meaning to ask, and I may have missed this already, but how did you sort your mic issues out?
I did a software update on the mics and haven’t had an issue since🤷🏽♂️ tbh didn’t even No that was a thing on wireless mics until I did it😂
literally throw the berg as hard as i can and it just goes laser straight i love it. only thing the berg makes me mad about it always looks like its going in and drops right before it does and cages. literally every time
Disc golf nerds getting high off their own farts
Mixing metaphors is funny.
Torque resistance is one of those hidden flight numbers. For instance the Innova Spider was a -3/1. But it was a disc that I could throw on FH or BH dead straight.
I think I would have understood flight numbers and disc flights much sooner if "Torque Resistance" took the place of "Turn."
Dead straight flat? Hyzer flip?
The level of torque resistance has gotta be one of the most important aspects of a disc🤝
@@broderic I was arguing with a few dudes the other day who all said torque resistance isn't a thing. Only off axis torque. Dafuq?
@@mindlander imma be honest I don’t even know what off axis torque means🤷🏽♂️ but they sound like idiots
I have to disagree with you here. If you can improve your score with a BergX, Berg or and other disc; you should throw them. I see this disc as a performance enhancer not a crutch. At a pitch and putt, if throwing a BergX helps your timing you should thrown that disc. If I could get over the god awful feel in the hand, I would be bagging one as it is easier for me to hit a gap with full commitment.
My thoughts explained a little further if you care to read🤝
“The berg is a crutch”
A statement that not everyone may agree with (and I totally get why some people love the disc) but I think if you look at it the same way as these two examples it might make more sense.
1. You will often hear old time disc golfers (even Climo has said it) who had to develop there putt on old shit baskets that putting soft and learning to “set” the putt into the basket is a skill itself and the players who have developed that compared to the new school “putt as hard as you possibly can” Gannon buhr style (no hate to him) simple lack the skill of touch on the putting green.
2. Everyone know that beginner that throws a full flight 250ft destroyer on forehand and is super accurate when that shot is available, but in any other situation they are trash. We’ve all heard it “start with putters only” or “don’t throw distance drivers when you first start playing” and that’s because it teaches bad habits that might be hard to overcome later on.
Basically what I’m saying is I think the “berg” style approach disc can fall into a similar category. Disc golf is a skilled sport and learning all the skills is super valuable. (Even how to throw a berg) I just think for most players especially ones newer to the game, there is much more value in learning a touch putter upshot with an Aviar than dumping a berg at the basket with no skill involved because it’s easy to not mess up.
Also keep in mind my opinion on this comes from experience as someone who relied heavily on a berg for many years.
Also keep in mind I don’t actually care at all if you throw/enjoy the berg because the beauty of disc golf is we can all throw whatever we want and the options are endless. When it comes down to it we’re all gonna get waxed by the old guy that only throws a sidewinder and has putted the same Aviar for the last 20 years anyway🤝
Frig N Berg owner here: is the berg such a polarizing crutch disc that the PDGA will ban it? I mean not a lot of pros throw em so it's not a big deal on that platform. For regular folk it just seems like you can negate learning touch putter shots and can just rip a berg instead. I don't know, seems a bit cheap. Despite my opinion I also love my Berg and won't take it out.
My thoughts 🤝
“The berg is a crutch”
A statement that not everyone may agree with (and I totally get why some people love the disc) but I think if you look at it the same way as these two examples it might make more sense.
1. You will often hear old time disc golfers (even Climo has said it) who had to develop there putt on old shit baskets that putting soft and learning to “set” the putt into the basket is a skill itself and the players who have developed that compared to the new school “putt as hard as you possibly can” Gannon buhr style (no hate to him) simple lack the skill of touch on the putting green.
2. Everyone know that beginner that throws a full flight 250ft destroyer on forehand and is super accurate when that shot is available, but in any other situation they are trash. We’ve all heard it “start with putters only” or “don’t throw distance drivers when you first start playing” and that’s because it teaches bad habits that might be hard to overcome later on.
Basically what I’m saying is I think the “berg” style approach disc can fall into a similar category. Disc golf is a skilled sport and learning all the skills is super valuable. (Even how to throw a berg) I just think for most players especially ones newer to the game, there is much more value in learning a touch putter upshot with an Aviar than dumping a berg at the basket with no skill involved because it’s easy to not mess up.
Also keep in mind my opinion on this comes from experience as someone who relied heavily on a berg for many years.
Also keep in mind I don’t actually care at all if you throw/enjoy the berg because the beauty of disc golf is we can all throw whatever we want and the options are endless. When it comes down to it we’re all gonna get waxed by the old guy that only throws a sidewinder and has putted the same Aviar for the last 20 years anyway🤝
@@broderic dude 100% on point also great content and production. Stick to the quality, I bet you see its actually easier in post to have quality recordings audio/video wise.
I see Cole Redalen and Issac Robinson perfecting this subtle touch shot with beat up putters. That is a much higher skill set than just running the basket with a berg knowing well that even bad runs still gonna give one a putt. It is no doubt a crutch for me I won't even front boys haha. I gotta get back to controlling my omega4s.
Been playing just over two years and messing around with the Berg for about half of that. It comes in and out of the bag. I'm forehand dominant, and I love the dead straight forehand flight you can get out of it. I like to think that I've developed a bit of touch over the past year, but I can't get that dead straight forehand flight out of any other disc. Closest I've come is hyzer flipping a Proxy or Atom, but those discs are so touchy. 1% too much power, too little hyzer, or too flat and they're burning over. With the Berg, it doesn't matter how hard or soft I throw it. If I release it flat, it's going dead straight and falling out of the sky with almost no turn or fade. My problem with it is the depth. I have small hands and about 20% of my forehands with the Berg hang up on release and jerk the line left...at which point it continues to fly dead straight on the wrong line. Been doing some forehand Berg only rounds this week to see if I can eliminate that problem.
Why the hell do people think that the Berg discs is a long thrower? None of the Berg discs are meant for that. Its for close upshots within 100-150 ft. If people wanna throw from far away you need to rethink your game and not use any of the Berg discs. My god, people are so stupid whining about a piece of plastic 😂😂😂😂
Everyone who I see throw a burg is unathletic
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I tried to love the Zone OS and just couldnt. Its barely a utility disc IMO. So I was really hoping Berg X would be a bit more useable, but it seems thats not the case. I do wonder though what weight you were throwing. If I had extra money to spend I would get a light weight Zone OS and Berg X to see if there is a difference.
Berg X is definitely more useable 🤝
Zone OS flexes on short forehand/tomahawk scrambles like a demon. I mean so does a regular Zone but they're both great for that shot which happens a lot for the typical casual player.
Forehand rollers? Okay so don't bag it, got it
Pretty much yeah😂🤝
It’s about damn time we have somebody with a voice in the community calling for more side profiles. The only shot that matters.
I'll send you that side profile when I receive my stock on the 12th. Hope this helps!
Better late than never🤷🏽♂️🤝
I get the point of the “it’s a crutch” comments that are so often regurgitated regarding the Berg.
It’s just that different discs work for different shots. This is obviously IN ADDITION to the angle of release and the speed/spin we put on a throw. So if a particular disc is the best option for a given shot where we have the angles/spin dialed in…sounds dumb to not go w/ our best option.
Is it the Berg’s fault that one’s “touch” (lol) isn’t dialed? Maybe they should practice THOSE “touch” shots w/ OTHER types of discs and get those dialed in as well. THEN have multiple options for a variety of shots the game calls for. THAT sounds like a more well-rounded game.
If I have a great hyzer-flip disc or super over-stable disc that I use to achieve specific lines…are those “crutches” too? Because not all of my discs are gonna flip or flex like those particular discs. You simply have to factor in and alter HOW you throw any given disc for different flights in the air…and the ‘play’ they get on the ground. That’s disc golf. We don’t play w/ a single disc and use only one type of throw.
Another regurgitated phrase is that whole “archer not the arrow” saying. I agree. BUT…I’d also say that if I have an ARROW that consistently hits the 🎯- - There’s no question…..I’m taking THAT bitch into battle and/or to hunt for my dinner.
Ted Talk Done 🤝
Thanks for the review. I’m stoked to get my X in and hope mine is as over stable as your experience.
My thoughts further explained🤝
“The berg is a crutch”
A statement that not everyone may agree with (and I totally get why some people love the disc) but I think if you look at it the same way as these two examples it might make more sense.
1. You will often hear old time disc golfers (even Climo has said it) who had to develop there putt on old shit baskets that putting soft and learning to “set” the putt into the basket is a skill itself and the players who have developed that compared to the new school “putt as hard as you possibly can” Gannon buhr style (no hate to him) simple lack the skill of touch on the putting green.
2. Everyone know that beginner that throws a full flight 250ft destroyer on forehand and is super accurate when that shot is available, but in any other situation they are trash. We’ve all heard it “start with putters only” or “don’t throw distance drivers when you first start playing” and that’s because it teaches bad habits that might be hard to overcome later on.
Basically what I’m saying is I think the “berg” style approach disc can fall into a similar category. Disc golf is a skilled sport and learning all the skills is super valuable. (Even how to throw a berg) I just think for most players especially ones newer to the game, there is much more value in learning a touch putter upshot with an Aviar than dumping a berg at the basket with no skill involved because it’s easy to not mess up.
Also keep in mind my opinion on this comes from experience as someone who relied heavily on a berg for many years.
Also keep in mind I don’t actually care at all if you throw/enjoy the berg because the beauty of disc golf is we can all throw whatever we want and the options are endless. When it comes down to it we’re all gonna get waxed by the old guy that only throws a sidewinder and has putted the same Aviar for the last 20 years anyway🤝
@@broderic
I get it man. Especially on the beginner point. Valid indeed. Like those dudes that come out of the gates throwing extreme forehand annies and playing the flex. It builds a habit to that angle/release and the flight just doesn’t work for all shots. Can be hard to break that muscle-memory when you start trying other lines or more understable discs.
Hell, I can throw two consecutive tees w/ that shot and then need to hyzer-flip the next tee shot and fuck it up due to my brain’s recency-bias. Muscle-memory is a bitch.
I had a decent approach game before I even knew of the Berg. Used the DD Evidence for straight-as-an-arrow ups and the Justice to get those extreme bends (still ❤️ that disc and that shot shape).
When I started throwing the Berg I had to change my mindset (and still do) when I pull it out for a shot. But I like the mindset for the Berg. Something that I can give a solid bid AND have a decent putt when I don’t smash, draw metal or park it……that’s a badass weapon IMO. I’m definitely not throwing other more touchy discs w/ that same mindset. But also find I can achieve just about any approach situation w/ the Berg and rarely need a touchy shot. I Do reach for super overstable (my K3 Järn nowadays) when I need to snake something thru tricky lines.
I also play disc golf to have fun (and for the exercise and vitamin D). So I’m always running the shit out of the basket. I live for that beautiful music smashing the chains makes. It gets me off. Gives me those endorphin hits. I’m not playing smart golf by any means. Bc if I’m from 80 to about 150 out….I’m running it. And my scores show for it in a negative way. Lol. My putting is SHIT.
Your content and points are often geared to try to help folks w/ parts of their game. So kudos. You provide good insights and examples w/ a chill vibe. And I know you like to push buttons too. Like….nice edit when you cut off that “I’m not a loser….” line in this video regarding why you don’t throw the Berg. Lmao. I can’t take offense to that bc I *am* a fucking Berg throwing loser. Hahaha.
People love to hate on the Berg similar to how folks love to hate on a band that quickly gains popularity. This societal/cultural effect is understandable. Usually there’s SOMETHING (multiple things) good about that band’s music to where it resonates w/ many. And a lot of people simply hate on it to be cool….to be rebellious against what’s popular. We’ve all been there.
Keep up the great content and thanks for dialog on this topic.
And…….
Ya should probably go ahead and bag that BergX. Just don’t tell anyone 🤫
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What's the Frisbee Club special handshake?
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I throw a DGA Gumputt for anything from 60' putt attempts, touch upshots (including flicks) and even drives from the tee for up to 300' straight as a chalk line. I have a 350' ace with it. Everyone asks me what disc flies that amazing but I never see anyone else throwing them. It can handle a full rip, glides like a son of a B and sticks a landing like an olympic gymnast. But I guess it's like the scooter of disc golf, fun to ride but you'll get roasted by your friends! I wouldn't be caught dead without one in my bag.
Positive turn Discs aren't too common, basically during the high-speed portion of the flight the disc will track left when throwing RHBH.
My trustee go to beefy fairway driver, the Innova Whippet X and Whippet L are two examples with a positive turn 6/3/+1/5 .
My Discmania Tilt and Reptilian Disc Golf Stego also have a positive turn👍, as well as my Dynamic Discs Enforcer.
Both the Tilt and Stego are probably a +2 turn😳 and the Enforcer is a +0.5 turn.
As a friendly warning none of the discs that I have listed above should be driven to the disc golf course in an automobile🫣.
Why is that you may be wondering🤷, because they're so overstable they tend to make your car veer to the left also 😉.
Damn buddy, you need to relax. Cringed so hard my ass crack is now crooked...
I really wasn’t sure if I’d seen many positive turn discs. I kinda figured it was just something I didn’t pay much attention to but it seems like it mainly for those super OS discs🤝
2:36 finally a disc is thrown
You're due up for a new hat brother! 😂 Gotta love sweat lines on black hats. 😅
I’ve been using my Zone OS for just straight up vertical forehand rollers and it pretty much does dead straight for 300ft and then finished like 10ft left or right at the very end. 😂 it’s a fun party trick to pull out on a silly hole or if you need to get under some low branches.
The only good use for it😂
Yea I don’t get positive turn numbers. Why didn’t they just make the BergX numbers 1/1/0/2.5 or 1/1/0/3?
I’m also confused 🤝
LMAOOOOOo! Held one in my hands 2 days ago at the shop and I couldn't believe I was actually thinking of using one lol. Felt like a dog toy.
All I see is salty sweat stained hat. My white trucker hat turned brown😢
All my hats get sweat stained so damn fast
Try out gateways Devil Hawk! I haven’t tossed the berg x but it seems comparable to a Devil Hawk
Devil hawk is similar 🤝
Lol, what a coincidence literally just took the berg out of my bag last week thinking it's been a crutch for me. Still a cool frisbee though, no hate to those that enjoy it. 🤝
It was time to move on🤝
I enjoyed more than any other vid that I've watched. Not say much, kinda new here.
Appreciate you enjoying🤝
Here for the x beef
Frisbee Club x 🤝
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berg rhyno toro my up shot game has never been better will throw my colt or invader if i need more distance or a turnover off the tee, got ten berg x waiting for when im out camp from work, cant wait to see if i can drop the rhyno or where this will fit in my game, got my first pdga ace at a b tier this summer after switching from the soft berg. bergs will turn over in the wind hopefully the plus 1 really resists turn like the difference in a pig and toro for me
Yo colt is mad underrated!
i have this freak xt colt that started flat af and is concave now its my forehand flick turnover putter blows peoples minds how i hit that flip to turn and lands flat 200-250 feet @@mindlander
Imo the berg x and rhyno are nothing alike. I could probably throw a rhyno 100 feet further than a berg x and shape lines much better with it as well. Totally different category I’d say🤷🏽♂️🤝
@@broderic yah I should elaborated more ill use the rhyno when i need some movement left to right or right to left or something that is going to be hyzer the whole way, like you said relying on the berg for all those shots isnt going to help your game or touch, so hopefully the berg x fades alot more then the standard berg is what im hoping
@@klassky17kingklassky81 it definitely fades more🤝
I regularly overthrow my Berg, saying it has no glide is a travesty. Pffft that would imply that I'm bad. I can't accept that so HAH roasted.
Kastaplast wants to get in on that Zone OS 🧀
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bergs will glide when thrown super hard
*bergs go farther when thrown by someone who throws hard🤝
👆Please listen to this man when he talks about what to throw and not to throw! Once this wise man said, (in his TSA Coalesce review) that if you're searching for a Thunderbird-type disc and people talk about "this new disc or that new disc" that flies like a Thunderbird, why not bag a Thunderbird then?! That changed my look on what to bag and not to bag🤝
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Brod keeps it real yo! 🤝
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I threw my berg in the trash can on Instagram last year and took a lot of heat for it. Still stand by that it’s an awful disc
Compared to what?
Some people don’t like the berg slander. I don’t hate the disc. I just no longer feel a need for it in my game🤷🏽♂️🤝
Solid disc review!
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Have you been watching nick thune stand up? I need a berg selling some used shit on mercari and I will buy one with my balance
I'll probably see this disc in 80+% of people's bags here in Sweden, especially those that throw >300'. I'm telling ya, KP is way too overhyped here. It seems like a good disc for FH rollers and discflippers (even thought this doesn't flip😁😑) *lame*.
This video had me rolling 😂
Lul shouting your x replies into the void
I want video of you throwing a berg 320
Imma be totally honest man, I think almost anyone with even just slightly above average arm speed could throw a berg 320. That is not far.
@@brodericmy sarcasm isn’t coming through lol. I’m just messing
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I'll take it, lol
The sweat stains on the frisbee frolf hat make me happy. None of this existed until like a year ago now we are here. Let’s go Brod 🤝 100% the man sells more buzzz ss and paces than Paige Shue and James Proctor combined.
I love this comment🤝
Never need till you don’t have it
One of those discs
I know what ya mean, but I think a lot of discs can do what you want a berg to do, to each there own🤝
@@broderic their * , ya I don’t burg. I like to throw a disc and make it do what a burg does with spin and angle control.
Dude can watch saying gd dude
I can’t even read this
@broderic u Said God dam u should u niotuse tharword
@@Gman4243 god would’ve also wanted to see a side profile of the disc🤷🏽♂️
@broderic I have to stop watching your channel sorry. I Am.christian man u not supposed to use God name like that sorry good luck to your channel
@@Gman4243 totally understand 🤝 I have no issue with anyone that follows god if it’s what truly makes their life better I completely support it. I grew up in and around the church and saw/heard a lot of fake people and things. And have gone through things in life that have made me realize it’s not for me. I’m also not big on telling people what they can and can’t say🤷🏽♂️
@randiscgolf is a great dude!
Randi at randiscgolf is the absolute GOAT, he is almost exclusively the only place I buy discs from
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