WIND CORRECTION ANGLE + Time calculations in Holding Part 3 / EXPLAINED by CAPTAIN JOE
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Dear friends and flight students, welcome back to my channel and to this third and last video of the holding pattern series. Today we´ll discuss how to maintain within the holding using wind and time corrections.
First you have to determine the so called WCA = Wind correction angle. The following rule applies.
Windangle x Windspeed
divided by True Airspeed of the plane
In our example we calculated a WCA of 6°. Now depending on where the wind is coming from you either subtract or add the WCA to your heading in order to fly the inbound course and not get pushed of your desired track towards the holding fix.
During turns you can´t apply the WCA, so to compensate you therefore have to add the WCA once you´ve established yourself on the outbound course, plus another WCA for the actual flight along the outbound leg, plus a third time as you are performing another turn at the outbound end. So 3 x 6 is 18 degrees of correction just on the outbound leg.
So memorize. 1x WCA for the inbound leg, and 3x WCA for the outbound leg.
Timing is also crucial within a holding. The idea is, always to end up with a one minute inbound leg. So in order to correct for wind again you have to shorten (tailwind) or lengthen (headwind) your outbound leg.
Is the wind blowing at a tailwind calculate 1 second per 1 knot windspeed. If you have 20 knots tailwind you subtract 20 seconds of one minute and fly the outbound leg only for 40 seconds.
Same rule applies for the headwind, just that you have to add the seconds to your outbound timing.
But see more what happens in case of a crosswind.
I hope you enjoy this video, I admit it´s a little more technical and you might have to watch two or three times to fully understand, but once you get the hang of it and practice these calculations you´ll have a blast using this technique in the actual plane!
Thank you very much for your time, and don´t forget "A good pilot is always learning"
Wishing you all the best, your "Captain Joe"
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Airline Pilot of 28 years on the 777/747 and a Captain of 17 years and this is awesome from Captain Joe. Thanks for helping me brush up Captain!
Captain Joe, thank you so much for making these videos. You mightn't be an airline captain yet, but of all the pilot UA-camrs I follow, you and DutchPilotGirl are the Captains. You're both organized, make the video interesting, make information easier for the viewer to understand, are straight to the point and have good music!
I had an oral on holdings last Tuesday, and this video came out on the perfect time. I’m so happy☺️☺️ I really appreciate ur job on the utube helping us future commercial pilots during our flight training💯
Thank u so much Captain Joe✈️
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Hi Joe I've gone through this series a number of times now, pretty complicated stuff but I'm getting to understand more and more
Love your videos
Amazingly well made videos! Great resource, too! Keep them coming.
Thanks Joe, I'm doing circuits this weekend and this really helped me! especially with the autumn weather here in Melbourne AU!!
Thanks for the videos, much appreciated!
Im in Melbourne too, thinking of going for my PPL. What flight school did you go with?
Hello Joe. First of all: Thanks so much for sharing your high quality knowledge and all your time to teach it to all followers. In your video at 0:45 there is a little mistake with the signing before the both FL140. Little but important as all in aviating. Best regards. Capt. Ralph
Wow! This really took the difficulty out of holding patterns for me in my training. Thanks Captain Joe!
Great video Joe! Thank you for sharing, I will be doing my IR early next year so it's great to begin prepared!
thank you so much Joe ! i'm working for my instrument rating exam and your videos helps me so much !!!
Hi jo, great video it was definitely very interesting and informative.
Ps. I just found your channel and immediately subscribed I love it !!
Good luck with everything you do.
Sarah A. Thanks😌
Thanks Captain for the great video. I have a checkride tmrw and you just simplified this for me. You really presented this that a slow person like me could understand it, God bless!
Great video! I had never had wind correction explained to me in such a clear way.
Great Video, i would like to see more videos like this, because its really detailed knowledge, and helps me with my studies.
Thank you Captain Joe
Hi Joe, thanks for the great explanation of holdings. It finally clicked!
my man thank you you are not like other IG pilots who only post their selfies show what they eat and where they fly .... you are the best! we learn a lot from you. Hope to come across with you some day at any airport. My regards from Turkey :)
Thank you for your instructions i do flightsimming and really needed that
Another informative video, thank you Captain Joe!
Hello Joe, you make study simple and in a very understanding way. Keep posting videos like this one for instruments. It is really helpful. Thank you!
Amazing Cpt. Joe again, thank you very much
I loved this whole series! I have a few ideas for the next videos.
1. What is zulu time( how to calulate it, why we use it)
2.What is an altimeter settling(how it is calculated, why we need it, why does it change so much,and a side question, what is density altitude.)
These are just suggestions and I will like whatever video you make next.
Capt Joe, that was a brilliant series. We are doing FNPT sessions at the moment and it really helped.
Captain joe I love you man! I wish and the all class wish to have you for instructor!
Beautifully explained, Captain Joe - very comprehensive, and complete with diagrams :)
thanks, this wil help me for my navigation excercices !!!
This definitely is the most helpful video I have watched in the last few months
Many Thanks again capt Joe for this upload. You allways give valuable informations and bring a recap on other thing in meantime.Take care.
Hi Joe, we want more. You are doing a great job. Thank you very much
These three series videos gave us to the most practical lessons. You will make me the perfect pilot :) Thank you for all information ...And let us make the lesson about aircraft indicators; HSI, RMI, ADF and so on !
As mentour pilot would put it, absolutely fantastic! Very effective instruction of a tricky concept for beginners like myself. Thanks so much captain joe!
Hey Captain Joe,
Flight student here. Your videos are extremely helpful in understanding many of these complex topics.
I'm not sure if this has already been answered, but when you are making your time corrections, do you base those corrections on the radial that you are originally flying or the heading that you fly based on your wind corrected angle? Thanks!
So, the direct entry works different for EASA than it’s for ANAC ( Brazilian aviation agency)... we consider a direct entry a certain angle range where you can intercept the inbound course directly.... I’ve never seen an entry where you fly the radius of the curves and then a 90º curve to intercept a leg....that’s new for me and it proves that I need to study more.
Henrique Carneiro ... that seemed “different” to me as well since we fly towards the fix, pass-over and proceed outbound turn and so on...🤔
I just discovered this channel today, and I've been watching for hours. I'm not a pilot, but I find aviation very interesting. Thank you for making these videos.
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the best explaination i have ever seen thank you
Fantastic explanations by you @ Capt. Joe
Great video as usual, what a mouthful Joe :) how often would this happen at a busy airport?
Thank you for your Tipps!
Just some addition I could think of after seeing the three series. Important to note that tracking into the hold is based on HEADING and after that its TRACK to maintain. Also 5 deg buffer is given for calculating the entry to the hold for the sector.
Captain Joe, greetings from Brazil, guy, I'm not a pilot but I've learned a lot of things about aviation with you, thank you so much, I've enjoyed your channel and I hope meet you one day, God bless you and... A good pilot is always learning 👍👍
Thanks Captain. It was indeed a good and helpful series😎
A very interesting series! Thanks Captain Joe :-)
excellent Captain Joe-thanks!
Thank you! More videos like this please! :)
Hi Joe, I'm Joe, a pilot with IFR left on the to-do list. I found this 3 part Hold Series very direct, simple, and helpful. I'd like to add one thing, and please correct me if I'm wrong...
If you would like to enter the Direct Entry Pattern, there's 2 ways: flying directly onto the inbound leg with WCA applied once flag is centred, and watch for flag flip to start the first turn and timer and be established. Or as you described, flying accross the fix to the outbound leg.
So how would you determine WHERE in space is the outbound leg, exactly. Is it by (?):
-Flying towards fix, with a perpendicular radial to that of the original HOLD radial so that you can intercept the DIAMETER length of the holding pattern, which we would know if we were in a FAST enough aircraft to be within the altitude speeds (below 6k' 200KIAS, 6-14k': 230 KIAS, etc.). Which we would know because we calculated it with you, e.g. 230kIAS we know diameter is 2.42nm.
- So then we divide 2.42/3.8 = 0.637. Then multiply this by 60 to give us roughly 38 seconds. Then we would apply the rule of thumb you taught us; so if we have a tailwind closer to your 6 o'clock than your 9 o'clock, add 1 sec for every 1kt.
- So let's take your example into consideration... if we wanted to fly accross the fix, I would have the OBS set to 090, centre it after I cross the fix, and fly that for 48 seconds (38s + 0.5x20 = 48) since wind is 330/20, and once I'm already timing, set the OBS back to the original of 180 INBOUND, so that at the 48s mark, and I turn, we're exactly where the OUTBOUND leg should be. And then proceed from there applying our WCAs accordingly.
SO, is this accurate? I cannot think of another way to simply fly accross the fix and land on the outbound leg if you don't know where it is, as probably displayed on the FDS.
Thank you, appreciate the content!
Joe
Captain Joe Can you make a video on SID & STAR ?
Great request, I second that :-) . Currently doing my IR training, that would help a lot, thanks Joe
LNAV/VNAV......FLC
Could you do the good and bad things about being a co pilot and a pilot? I love all your videos and want to be a pilot like you!!!
Hi jo i come from a family of pilots but may just say apart from my father and brothers you are my role model. Thanks for your advice i will inspire to become a good pilot like you abd better than you
As a student pilot, only ppl training at the minute, i find this so helpful as i want to do a CBIR after ppl.
Thanks for your video!
Great lesson very informative, Nice Job Capt
I love your videos Joe ❤️
Thanks for another great video, maybe an idea to do something about flying SID's and STAR's, non precision approaches and ILS categories?
dammm these videos... so good! cant thank enough cap. Joe.
I never did this when flying a Rollason Condor - used visual aids ie coloured rooftops on warehouses, industrial chimneys and rail track and motorway.
very good video, as always, Joe! I'd surely want to see more videos about flight schools, because I think I'll need them in the future, 'cause I really want to become a pilot, mostly thanks to you!!! I'm 16, by the way😁
Very helpful, thank you!
Hi Joe, great video. It was really helpful and knowledgeable video. Thanks
Keep posting more. Safe flights ;)
Thanks for this great video. Helped a lot.
Thank you Captain, very helpful.
Please, Mr Joe, keep the IFR serie for us!
Best regards from Brazil.
Great, real practical tips, more of this flight training please
Great way to learn more about holding
Amazing tutorial !!!☺
Best explanation I’ve ever seen
Great stuff Jo---happy Corona.
Best video ever Joe!
Great info. Thanks
Great Video. Thanks.
Hi Joe, you make thursdays the best day off the whole week. Thank you for that!! How are you going with the type rating? Can't wait to see you with her
Alvaro Cifuentes I agree! Each time I see the notification, I get all hyper and excited!!
Alex Osterrieth me 2
Hello Joe, awesome video! Really informative! When will you do a collaborated video with mentour?
Hi Joe, great video! Was just wondering in commercial airliners do the pilots have to use mental math or computers to do the calculations? Thanks!
I was happy with VFR... At least I thought so...
I'm going for a CB-IR now, just to keep on learning ;-)
Great video joe
@Captain Joe Correctly. Thanks.
Incredibly informative
At 0:44 holding time at or below FL140 is 1 min. Above FL140 is 1 min 30 sec.
@Captain Joe mention it correctly in his script. But the embedded subtitle is the other way around.
Captain Joe...
Do they actually ask WCA when you entering a holding on a simulator screening?
Thanks
Thanks, very informative
Very nice Joe with love from Pakistan. Kindly make videos on basic IF flying approach charts , high/low charts (SID,STARS) and also on VFR Navigation techniques. Many thanx
OMG YOU ARE THE BEST!!!
Hello Joe,
Thanks a lot for your videos!
Can we use this wind angle formula during a flight navigation ? or is it better to use cos Formula to calculate drift correction ?
Thanks Captain
Hey captain joe i have a question if a tailstrike occur is the airplane gonna emergency lading/crash landing or the flight is gonna continue like normal
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I love your videos, can you make a video on airport charts?
Another superb video
Great videos man. İ am a student pilot, and your videos help a lot. Please make more educative videos.
Terrific .... I’ve been a flight instructor since 1979, and this is the easiest explanation I’ll be using for my students 👍
Many thanks for posting.
Hi. There is even an easier way to calculate the WCA and it works fine, too.
1st: Take your Holding speed, e.g. 180 kts and divide it by 60, equals 3. That's your speed factor.
2nd: Divide wind speed by your speed factor, e.g. wind 270/20. 20/3 roughly 6°. That's the maximum WCA.
3rd: Determine the difference between wind angle and inbound course. If it's
1/3 (0° - 30°) use 1/3 of max WCA,
2/3 (31 - 60°) use 2/3 fo max WCA or
3/3 (61° - 90°) (full crosswind) use max. WCA
Let's say the inbound leg is 230°, then the wind direction is 2/3 in relation to your inbound course.
4th: calculate WCA: 2/3 of 6° equals 4°.
And that's it. I used this technique on my screenings and on Flight Sim on PC and it always worked out well.
Happy Landings!
Captain joe's formula only gives correct results for angles of 30 degrees. There are serious deviations at angles of 30 degrees and above.
Great!!👍👍
🔴🔴Awesome as usual🔴🔴
But another aviation related question about the aircraft that there a round structure which is fitted at the tail of a aircraft what is it.
Anyway you are awesome.
It's a pad to avoid damage to the plane if you happen to do a tail strike.
Hi joe i love your channel, one question i want to ask is what does the pilot mean when he says “ cabin crew all doors to departure and cross check”
Question about direct entries: on many tutorials a direct entry has the pilot turn into the outbound end rather than cross through the pattern. What should be done? If crossing directly though the pattern, how do you know when you've intercepted the outbound leg?
Its highly requested, can u please make a video that what to do after CPL and can we get an airline job after it? So that later on we can continue our ATPL on our own expenses which we got from airline.
Hi Joe, many thanks for the vid which I use for a German airline assessment ;) Ive been studying the previous vids of this program and shouldn't it be 1minFL140? At 0:43 of the video it is stated the other way around.. Thanks again!
Great video capt Joe. But I just wonder how do we know exactly the direction in degrees of the wind is blowing and at what speed? Speaking about conventional aircraft which doesnt have any ADR showing the indication of the wind speed and direction . How do we do the calculation then? I agree with WCA and stuff to track the outbound by simply multiply by 3 of the WCA on inbound. But back then in my training with cessna 172 in order to adjust the inbound leg to make it 1 minute. I just simply adjust the outbound time in related to inbound time. For example case, if we ended up with the inbound time 45 secs due some tailwind component during inbound, then I’ll have 01:15 sec for the outbound to compensate headwind during outbound. Maybe it wont be precise but it seemed to work.
Anyway, I’m just sharing, keep up the good work Captain.
Hey Joe, I’ve recently visited your website and I suggest doing some minor changes to appear more presentable, since there are grammatical errors that need to be fixed. Have a nice day!
Great ... 🤗 .... thanks captain
great lesson
Hey Captain Joe could you do a video on what Vectors are?
Amazing
Good info Captain. I wish one day you make a video with mentour