ok in this lesson i feel lost. how do you come up with those notes in C major. i cant find the pattern. how do i remember it so i can use it in every tonality? i just cant find any correlations to anything pls help!!!
I had a book on jazz and I was stomped by the ALTs, Dbl Diminished, etc. Michael your video piano tutorials and everyone commenting on this forum have opened doors for me - thanks!
Quality stuff. Exceptional, because Michael Wolffe here, and in the other videos, doesnt bugger around..its all meaty stuff given away here, for free. Many thanks for sharing this.
a diminished scale could be seen as two minor tetrachords starting on a root and separated by half step . Inverted diminished scale (half-whole) is the same but with minor tetrachord starting half step above the root. For example C inv.dim scale (half-whole) is made of c#minor tetrachord and g minor tetrachord.
He calls it the "double " diminished scale because of the fact that each scale he plays (half/whole step), consists of two diminished chords. For exemple: the first scale he plays (F Gb Ab A B C D Eb) contains the notes of the F diminished chord (F Ab B D) and the notes of the F# diminished chord (F# A C Eb). Therefore he uses the name "double diminished"..
not hung up on nomenclature but I was taught that its name was auxiliary diminished . advanced jazz theory is a morass of multiple names for the same stuff like all the many names for melodic minor based tonalities man we should have a conference to simplify all this stuff .
Very nice. Tasteful, conceptual with leverage to give your writing room to grow. This my young writers...is how you apply the basics to stretch your creative thinking! Thank you so much Michael ...we just might save a generation of musicians who will see the difference in real music that is not tainted with hip hop garb.
looks like root position for a lot of them. some of them he uses the voicing of a tri-tone and a perf 4th. Example: F7 would be Eb - A - D (7th 3rd 13). You can also use that same voicing for a dominant 7 #9. that same voicing could be B7#9 (3rd 7th and #9)
Is there a correct way to write a diminished scale (or whatever, i mean HsWsHsWsHsWsHsWs) in the actual pentagram? Is there a key signature ? Shoud it have just flat and natural notes? I am confused
In F7 you use the notes F-A-C-Eb B7 you use the notes B-D#-F#-A D7 you use the notes D-F#-A-C But then in Ab7 you use the notes Ab-C-Eb-G making G and Ab a semitone instead of a tone. Why?
Is the double diminished scale the same as the diminished scale?
ok in this lesson i feel lost. how do you come up with those notes in C major. i cant find the pattern. how do i remember it so i can use it in every tonality? i just cant find any correlations to anything pls help!!!
I think he made a mistake in his comment. The Ab should be an A so the pattern is C, Db, Eb, E, F#, G, A, Bb.
@@matthewosburn thanks for that
@@cmuse YOU ARE CORRECT
Thanks Michael, complete harmonization inside the double dim scale. Greetings from Brazil.
I had a book on jazz and I was stomped by the ALTs, Dbl Diminished, etc. Michael your video piano tutorials and everyone commenting on this forum have opened doors for me - thanks!
Quality stuff. Exceptional, because Michael Wolffe here, and in the other videos, doesnt bugger around..its all meaty stuff given away here, for free. Many thanks for sharing this.
a diminished scale could be seen as two minor tetrachords starting on a root and separated by half step . Inverted diminished scale (half-whole) is the same but with minor tetrachord starting half step above the root. For example C inv.dim scale (half-whole) is made of c#minor tetrachord and g minor tetrachord.
He calls it the "double " diminished scale because of the fact that each scale he plays (half/whole step), consists of two diminished chords. For exemple: the first scale he plays (F Gb Ab A B C D Eb) contains the notes of the F diminished chord (F Ab B D) and the notes of the F# diminished chord (F# A C Eb). Therefore he uses the name "double diminished"..
Oh, thanks! I was wondering about that.
Love those chords, especially when you do that quick eighth note on the bass, then play its chord... genius!
not hung up on nomenclature but I was taught that its name was auxiliary diminished . advanced jazz theory is a morass of multiple names for the same stuff like all the many names for melodic minor based tonalities man we should have a conference to simplify all this stuff .
The Wolff lunges at ya again with incredibly useful material! Thank you!
Very nice. Tasteful, conceptual with leverage to give your writing room to grow. This my young writers...is how you apply the basics to stretch your creative thinking! Thank you so much Michael ...we just might save a generation of musicians who will see the difference in real music that is not tainted with hip hop garb.
Great explanation of the subject. I like to call it the Scriabin Diminished Scale.
Michael Wolff you are just GREAT! thank you
Ha! i figured this scale out playing over Bb7 G7 E7 and Db7, glad i found an explanation
Great lesson! Very Very helpful! Thank you!
Thankx for sharing, very cool stuff.
excellent resource....thx
I can say the double diminished scale is Octatonic scale.
you teach me alot bro thanks!
Artis brown organist...
While playing the scales I notice that you were playing 8th . Jazz notes.. am I right?
Thank you!
what inversions are you using on the dominant 7 chords?
looks like root position for a lot of them. some of them he uses the voicing of a tri-tone and a perf 4th. Example: F7 would be Eb - A - D (7th 3rd 13). You can also use that same voicing for a dominant 7 #9. that same voicing could be B7#9 (3rd 7th and #9)
Brian McGravey I appreciate that so much. thanks doc
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This is the inverted diminished scale,starting with a half step.
Is there a correct way to write a diminished scale (or whatever, i mean HsWsHsWsHsWsHsWs) in the actual pentagram?
Is there a key signature ?
Shoud it have just flat and natural notes? I am confused
In F7 you use the notes F-A-C-Eb
B7 you use the notes B-D#-F#-A
D7 you use the notes D-F#-A-C
But then in Ab7 you use the notes Ab-C-Eb-G making G and Ab a semitone instead of a tone. Why?
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thanks a lot for this.
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These are just diminished scales. What’s “double” about them?
why do you call it the 'Double' diminished scale?
You construct it from 2 diminished 7 chords
Great lesson. Helps a whole lot. Or should I say half/whole lot ? (bad joke :0)
I call it a spade.
Gerswin approves.
Rimskiy Corsakov scale
Yeah, so this is definitely just the octatonic scale.