Buying Smaller Gold Coins
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- This video considers buying smaller gold coins as the price of gold continues to rise. We'll take a close look at the 1/10 oz Gold Canadian Maple Leaf and talk through the pros and cons of higher premium, fractional gold.
NOTE: I am not a financial planner. I'm just a guy on the internet, talking about precious metals. Always do your own research before buying gold or silver.
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In a prior video, I compare 1 oz gold coins to 1/4 oz gold coins and talk about what size coin is the best to buy in different situations. ua-cam.com/video/kKp3ECRlAFE/v-deo.html
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@@unitedstatesirie7431 you seem to be very aware friend.. quite the predicament we are in.. they have played the long game as they always have and have a good chunk of the populace under their mind control program.. a big problem is the media and the worship of it by most Americans..they won't see what's right in front of them ..as long as the football game is on and their team is winning they don't care about what's going on ..people are pitiful these days..I don't have much hope for humanity but maybe I'm wrong ..I hope I'm wrong..maybe there's more out there like us than we think...but its not looking good..
if you buy its in 25% premium doesn't it also mean you sell it at around the same premium price?
If someone can't afford large gold coins then they should definitely buy fractional gold because in the end whatever premium they pay isn't going to matter when our fiat currency collapses and is worth 0! Good video brother
Thanks!
I used to be a shit head at saving. Now that I stack, I don't care if spot goes up, if premiums don't move and a spot drops... I buy anyways because it keeps me from eating steak every other day. I'd rather eat the cost than the steak. Shit out gold and silver instead of waste. Lol.
100% There are a lot of worse ways to spend money!
Omg I say that all the time! like what we gonna get fast food for? So you can shit it out!? No! Or I be like damn that’s a whole ounce of silver or in my head I’m like shit that’s a half ounce right there. Lmao it’s true tho. Stacking is the absolute best way for me to save because I can’t just pluck a 20 dollar bill off the top you kno? I gotta go sell and etc. anyway I’ll shut up now but yea I get that!
I was thinking same thing just now... buying coins silver or gold is addicting! But... if I am addicted to saving money... im happy with it.
Same here, I can't rub two nickels together. But over the past 10 years I've saved more than I could ever imagine. All that cash would have gone to turbos, girls, box seats, weed, etc... I'll eat the ups and downs because either way its not down the drain!.
@@LucyStacks I agree with you!
Luv these older videos !!! You have come a long way
Ha, yeah. It doesn’t come naturally from o me. 😄
Yes, the premium are step on 1/10th oz coins. However there is guy name Fernando Aguire who survive the argentine collapse, and the 1/10th oz coins were good when you need to cash them in to go buy groceries. You didn't want to cash in too big of gold coin as the money devalue/depreciated so fast that it would worth less by the next day. So there is a place for the 1/10th oz coins. I probably wouldn't invest a large amount in them, but I would have save.
Yes, definitely a place for fractional metals. I buy .5 gram tiny gold bars as well (makes sense really)...and also 1/4 and 1/2 ounce silver a lot too.
The new mapleGrame25 sheet is a better options
yes and also I would be sweating bullets walking around with a 1 oz. pure gold coin in Argentina
JMBullion was sold out of the 1/10th eagle for the entire summer. They are finally back in stock. While the premium is crazy, it's because most people want them not only because they are more affordable, but because people feel they are more liquid if they need some quick cash. BTW, if gold is going where more and more experts are speculating...the premiums you are paying won't even matter and will probably even go up as more people wake up to what all this money printing will do to the dollar.
I haven’t been watching them specifically, but I know the quarters have been harder to find. I’m still exercising moderate caution. 😀 Cheers!
I would call them less affordable 😂
I think I said this before when you made your 1/4 oz video, but 1/10th oz is the Number One Selling fractional out of the AGE. Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge.
Silver Heist did some great research on this recently showing actual numbers. I didn’t realize just how popular they were! Thanks!
The 1/10 fractional size makes the most sense when you’re able to dollar cost average and consistently make purchases regardless of the market direction. There’s nothing wrong with expanding the mint choices . Some vendors will offer random coin types and years at a discount . That adds up over time . Another factor to consider is whether shipping is free or if you have a long distance to travel to make purchases of the coins . Great topic . I’m just getting started watching some of your previous videos and appreciate the time and effort taken to produce videos on the topic . -DM
Recently discovered you. I like your video style. No ranting or drama, no looking uncomfortably at your mug- instead you hypnotically move around shiny objects. Well played sir, well played. I divide UA-cam channels between 3 types. 1. Tin foil hats -entertaining but I wouldn’t trust those guys with walking my dog 2. Entertaining- I learn some stuff but I enjoy the showmanship or the train wreck. 3. Educational- i consider these ideas and opinions and challenge my own ideas and plans. You are the better parts of education and entertainment. Thank you.
Hey Tony! Thanks for that - happy to have you here!
@@2is1gold thank you. I know your stand is local govt gold - but have you seen mutiny metals new 1/10 Oz Escudos? Beautiful. Lol
I have 1 Oz gold coins, but I got drawn to the 10th Oz coins and I love them. They are like gold dimes, trying to fill a tube of eagles.
Buying the 1/10 oz coin is a great way to get stackers into buying gold and silver. I see a lot of people introduced to precious metals through silver and 1/10 oz coins are a great way to get them into buying gold.
I just picked up a 1/4 oz maple, had a 1/10th and a a few gram bars already, the 1/4 oz seems like the perfect buying point for me at the moment. great video.
Right on! I love the 1/4oz size, and the Maples are great. Cheers!
rAgtAg Stacking: Agreed....I think 1/4 ounce is the "sweet spot" which most people can afford to buy at least once per month and the premiums are not too bad.
It is cute.
Great video. If you're a stacker who started about two years ago, you have knowledge, experience and a slower, more measured approach by now. Obtaining it, however small, is a bug like no other. However, everything in moderation. Discipline, and prudence is key to longevity.
More videos please.
For sure! I started in 2008, but I’m still working on discipline! 😄 Cheers!
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I must add: for me, the size of coin I purchase depends on the available cash on hand. Usually 1/4oz but I have some of the 1/10oz variety
$500 was kind of a mental hurdle to clear for me on those 1/4's.
@@2is1goldTry $700 now. 😂😂😮
These old video's are fun..one can tell how you have evoled , I dont think u ever buy silver now.. me either.. The prems on silver are worse than the 1/10 gold back then. My first gold buy was 14 1/10th eagles at $188 with prems.. today that would be 288 with prems. Back then I brought 1/10 to barter with for medium price purchases say my food and water instead of carry around a lot of silver eagles. Since then i add 1 more to have 15.. I want to go back and buy more 1/10 but I cant bring myself to pay the prems.. Next time i get some found money maybe I wlll buy 5 more.
Same one of my coins got here before the capsule as well . 😆
Gold to your door in three days! What a time to be alive! 😄
Yourw right about them looking bigger on UA-cam. I swear the 1 oz silver eagle looks like a dinner plate when I see them on video.
Ha, true!
22 vs 24 carat
Funny to listen to you from a year ago... Content is, of course, top notch.
The smaller fractional will always have the highest premiums with both silver and gold so the chance is high that you should get that back if you decide to sell in the future. So isn’t it a wash in the end as long as the spot price goes up over time? Just my thought. I agree with what you are saying. Trying to buy larger fractional myself, but sometimes good prices pop up on these 1/10 ozt pieces and you got to snatch them up.
Dealers will pay (partial) premium for Eagles and Buffalos here in the States, but rarely for Maples. Definitely a wash, though, if gold prices go up (and stay up). Cheers!
2 is 1 agreed. I think selling in peer to peer groups is a better option if available though. It may take a little longer but worth it. I’m more of a long term holding type though. Passing it along to my kids.
You know people told me I was dumb buying fractional gold when it was $1500. Now I can sell that fractional gold and put the same amount of gold in my pocket and add to my silver stack or add more gold.
Dumb LIKE A FOX! 😂 No doubt fractional is smart, regardless of timing, and I’ve spent $50 on worse things!! (Probably even in the last 24 hours! 😁) Thanks for watching, Britches! 👊🏼
@@2is1gold my pleasure I'm a fan
yep, love me some fractional, although I usually dont go below 1/4 oz. But I have done it and I would/will do it again.
@2is1gold I'm still requesting a crossover episode with you and @silverbritches you can call it Gold Pros and your tag line can be stack like a real pro lol
@@nrwalsh we have a lot more in common that’s for sure.
Your my favorite precious medals UA-cam channel
Thanks!
I love the British Queen's Beast series coin. Specifically the White Lion of Mortimer coins. I love the design (in both silver and gold). I've been stacking them the most this year. I can't pay full price for American gold coins when they aren't .999 or .9999, but they still command full spot price plus premium.
I’m a fan of the Queens Beasts too. I wish the US Mint would run series like that. I personally have more Buffalos (which are .9999) than anything else. Cheers!
AGEs are still the same amount of gold, just with some extra silver and copper mixed in for strength and durability, so they wind up bigger and heavier than the pure coins.
ASE gold coins weigh more than one ounce.
That’s because it’s 1 oz of gold plus some copper & silver.
I don't actively invest in gold; I just buy it as a hobby, so the higher premium on the 1/10 oz doesn't matter much to me.
I bought a bunch of gold backs which are a fun, less expensive micro fractional variety alternative that are very cool looking. A nice holiday gift for your stacker buddies. Utah GB and Nevada GB’s are the most recent pick ups. Very novel, but still real money.
Yeah, those seem pretty cool as gifts!
Great video man nice pick up sweet spot is def 1/4 oz but man I can’t get over the 1/10 oz affordability even with the premium (nicotine patch lol) less then a 10oz silver bar lol at least that’s my opinion I have 13 1/10oz lol love those little things 1/4 is def the way to go tho to be honest.. great stuff man !
Thanks, Juice. Whatever sticks is good! For me, I was all about the 10 oz silver bars at that price point. Changing gears! Cheers, man! 👊🏼
I've got a 1-gram panda! I love that thing!
Awesome!
I managed to grab a 2020 1/10oz gold britannia a few months ago for 229 on govmint (and felt like I was overpaying a bit). Now those are selling on there for 299! My other 1/10th is a PCGS 70 2016 gold Mercury dime that I love. The US mint that year made gold 1/10oz mercury dimes, quarter oz standing liberty quarters, and half oz walking liberty half dollars to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the designs. I intend to collect those other two coins in PCGS 70 as well, finances permitting. I think they will do extremely well long term. The perfect crowns to a constitutional/junk silver stack!
I love the gold Mercury dimes. My favorite coin design. I wish the mint would have used the Palladium coin design for the Platinum (or, better, gold) coins. Cheers!
👍 Nice. You *are* the sparkly metals demo king! We live close to the Canadian border and just got a few 1/10th oz and grams (they're so cute!) Maples...just in case needing to 'tip' border guards for expedited service ever becomes a real thing.😉
Ha! I’ve had that “tipping” the guards thought too. 😄
I bought the 1/10 ounce AGEs & Maples when they were like $125/each... After spot went over $1500, the only fractional gold I bought were/are the 20 Francs (.1867oz) & 1 Ducats (.1106oz) as the premiums are only 2%-4%... When you sell those, you will only get spot but presumably that price will be 40% or more higher so I think that is the best gold strategy unless you find deals... I have been picking up 1/4 oz Platinum Eagles as the 1oz premiums are 20-30% but the 1/4oz Platinum premiums are only 10%-15%. My only regret is that I did not buy more Gold Buffalos when spot was lower... Those are my favorite 1oz Coins... Great video, thank you!
Joe Carpenter Buffalos are my favorite too. I’d like to fill a tube with them. I was buying 20 Francs LMUs in the early 20-teens. I wasn’t able to sell them for spot, so I’ve broken up with them! 😁 Cheers!
@@2is1gold how low below spot did you get if I may ask? Also, how many different ways did you try to sell? I am asking as I just don't know and may dump my fractional all together and focus on 1oz... Maybe I should do that now... I have nearly 30oz of Gold but 2/3 is in fractional items
I had 15 oz of Sovereigns and LMUs (Roosters mainly). My LCS was initially willing to give 95% - 98% of spot for Sovs, 90% for the LMUs. I think I ended up getting about 95% for LMUs as well, though. The problem was that it was like 80 coins, and the dealer didn’t want them all at once. Spot price was on its way down and the dealer kept dragging his feet. He actually told me he didn’t want the Roosters! That was years ago, though. Much different environment today. Hope you have better luck!
It would have been nice if you had a US Penny, Nickel, and Dime to compare it to for size....
1/4 oz as small as i go...tho i make exception for roosters ducats and sovereigns...no bars under 10 g...i think 1/4 is good going forward as gold is supposed to climb
Quarters are perfect in my opinion. Cheers!
British gold soveriegn
Buy what you like whenever you can. Keep stacking. Good video.💰
Good advice! Cheers!
Another great video that I enjoyed watching. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! Cheers!
Don't worry about the 1/10oz buyers remorse. You talked it out here and will be back on your 1/4 or UP stride again next month...For reassurance, I expect that 1/10 oz to be worth more federal reserve debt notes in the coming months and yrs...You can swap it out for a 1/4oz and little cash later. Its GOLD...Its Money...Its worth picking up
I think about the costs going in, but my units change from dollars (debt units 😀) to ounces immediately after purchasing. Cheers!
I have three 1/10th AGEs. Premiums are high but there is something about them that makes me want a small coin pouch of them the way I store my mercury dimes.
i've thought the same. It would be great to have a roll of 1/10ths. I just need to find a lower premium option. Speaking of Mercury dimes, I'm on the hunt for the gold Mercury dime now. Cheers!
Very good video. I personally avoid 1/10th oz coins. I have been accumulating gold coins since 2016. At first I bought 1 oz coins and as the price rose I scaled down to 1/2 oz and now I’m buying 1/4 oz. If I can’t afford a 1/4 oz this month I’ll wait for next month. In this fashion my $ cost averaging strategy protects me as my heavier purchases were done at much lower prices. I buy mostly Maples and some Perth mint coins all .9999. If I buy an American Eagle I’m taxed 5% because they are an alloy of gold and copper so I avoid them but I sure would love to have a few.
Sounds like a good plan. I'd be fine with Maples and Perth coins if I didn't live in the States - both have great options. 5% tax would definitely put me off US coins. Cheers!
Comment 2 years late - but it still holds true. I also bought some 1/10oz capsules thinking that I was going to buy some US or Canadian 1/10oz coins - but I am still stuck on the 1/4oz size as the smallest I'm willing to buy. With the 1/4oz coins, I like the size and I like the lower premium better than the 1/10oz coins. I still haven't purchased a 1/10oz coin! Thank you for showing how small they really are!
I got lucky the other day and got one for $180 from my local dealer...Great guy...
Nice!
Those 4-9's fine gold are soft and you need to use a capsule. I stick with 1/4 ounce (due to premiums) but then I haven't sold any 1/10 ounce gold so I don't know if I could get that premium back.
Capsules for sure! I don’t know if I could get any premium on the baby Maple from my LCS, but I know I could sell it for the full amount peer to peer. Cheers!
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They're affordable for a lot of stackers and you will get the premium back if you sell and also if you need money you don't have to liquidate a bigger piece.
Plus I believe gold is just in the beginning of a multi year bull run.
As Fish always says keep stacking the frac.
I haven’t gotten to pesos like Fish yet - might have to at these prices! Cheers!
@@2is1gold I only have a couple of the
2 1/2 pesos one of them was my first gold coin I ever bought.
It was in the 90's for $35 I remember thinking when I bought it that I paid too much and it may never be worth that much.
Crazy huh?
I just bought some 1/4 oz Canadian coins for $537 each on Ebay. I usually don't buy fractional, but the bear on the coin looked cool.
Hey Pudenda. I agree on the wildlife series. They’re all great! Cheers!
I buy what I choose.
One of the strong points of small fractional is that it does allow many more average or even low income people to actually acquire full sets of coins, especially if they are buying on release. If you want to check out some really innovative fractional though, look up Utah Goldbacks! I have a few mostly for novelty/support of the cause, but I think within the next few years the market for them will be large enough for most LCS's to be interested in them.
Yeah, I wish the US Mint was a little more creative. The Royal Mint and RCM have much better options!
@@2is1gold I'm really hoping the US mint turns over a new leaf with the 2021 silver and gold eagle design refresh. Lots of potential opportunity. I do really like that since 2019 they are doing the silver proof versions of the yearly state quarters in .999 instead of standard 90%. There are 5 state/territory quarter designs released each year, and with the .999 silver versions, 5 add up to exactly 1.02 troy oz, so some people literally crack them out of the cases to put in tubes as fractionals! I think the mint should also do gold versions of those, with 5 adding up to 1 troy oz as well, even if they would have to be a bit smaller physically (like the 2016 gold versions of the 100 year old constitutional silver designs).
James M I have three boxes of those 2019 state quarters that were given to me as a gift and didn’t even know what they were. I guess I should take another look! 😂
James M I wish the Mint would bring back the Buffalo 1/4 oz and/or some new high relief coins. Most of their commemoratives are terrible!
@@2is1gold They may be the regular non silver proofs. The regular proof sets have brownish felt and the silver uses black felt.
I dug out some old 1/10th oz gold eagles I bought when gold was around $1000. I ended up having accumulated 10 of them over the years. Not a good way to buy, but I was buying lots of random stuff back then. :-)
Nice!
All but one of my coins are fractional. I'm not worried because I think I'll get those those premiums back. I have ×1 1oz coin and the rest are 1/4 oz and 1/10 oz. I try to buy more than one coin each time, that's saves a little money. Great video.I 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching!
For fractional gold I like the old European coins. 10-20 francs, whole and half sovereigns, ducats, and pesos. If you shop around they can still be had at lower premium and have more collectable value if you get a good deal on something from the 18th or 19th century. Coins that weigh from .11-.13 oz can be had for the same price or less than .10 oz American and Canadian modern junk gold.
Yeah, my LCS sells Sovs and LMUs for 1% over spot. Great deal. But they only pay 96% of spot for them if they aren’t “over stocked” so I always have to keep that in mind. Cheers!
Just got in some 1/4 oz Gold Maples, my first fractional. Boy, are they small in size!
I think about selling in the future. Hopefully the price goes way up, if so, it might be hard to unload full ounces.
Alot of people seem to be size queens, if you ever need to transport or god forbid stash your currency, and let's keep in mind this is currency, not jewelry, or a show piece. It's for exchanging for goods and services and storing accumulated funds.
Premium queen maybe.
I’ve initiated a personal race between filling a 1/10 oz Canadian Maple tube and a 1/10 oz. American Eagle tube-premiums be damned!
Do you see yourself ever returning to securing more 10 oz. silver bars?
Cheers, mate! 🎩🥂
That's a good question. Silver would have to give strong evidence for future gains (even modest gains) before I'll buy more. At a certain price point (sub $20) I might buy regardless, but right now, I don't have enough interest. Cheers!
Right, cheaper to buy 1oz. Save and buy 1oz in my humble opinion. New South Korean 1 oz coins are superb 👌
Ksenia Asatryan the Phoenix looks spectacular. Is that the coin you mean? (I’ve seen the tigers before, but I didn’t think they were gov-issued coins.) I’m pretty ignorant on S Korean coins.
@@2is1gold : The silver phoenix is issued by KOMSCO, the official mint of South Korea (I don't know if they make a gold version). Its classed as a "medal" (a.k.a. a "round") because it doesn't have a face-value.
www.silvertrader.uk/product/2020-phoenix-south-korean-1oz-silver-bullion-medal/
@@2is1gold There are four gorgeous 1 oz South Korean gold Chiwoo coins at JM Bullion.
Question - why don't you like 1/2 oz. Gold coins ? As for 1/10 oz. I bought 1 & now I have five because my mind just had to have a total that equaled a rounder # never buying a 1/10 again
I like 1/2 oz, I just don’t run into them often.
I just won on auction a old 1877 Belgium 90% Gold - 20 Francs - and it was a steal.. 5,8g of gold. My second gold piece to collection.. first was a 1/4 oz maple leaf :)
That’s great!
So my fractional approach is $5, $10, $20 liberty pre-33. I balance that with Mexican gold pesos 5, 10, 20.......I also just bought my first Rooster -.1867. I am still adding silver but focused on 10 oz bars - government issue plus sunshine mint. I can get these at $2 over spot with my LCS. Good looking coins keep on stacking.
Looks like a good plan! Thanks!
New sub. Yup, high premium but sometimes it’s the only gold people can afford. Gold is savings for me. Silver & platinum are my speculative bets (along with mining stock). 👌🏼
I totally get the affordability factor. For me, a lot of it is mental (but still practical). I have a budget for purchases, and I usually don't want to spend more than $1k on gold in one shot. But I do find myself spending $550 twice in a short period of time from time to time. Because I'm dumb. :)
2 is 1 You’re not alone! 😂
Buying 1/2oz coins is a decent alternative as well 1/2oz and 1/4oz those 1/10oz coins are just to high on premium to even consider for investment purposes i would only buy a few just to have for quick resale or if i was buying as a hobby then i would buy more of them but to me gold is more of and investment or emergency savings so 1oz 1/2oz and 1/4oz is the limit in my opinion.
Yeah, 1/10 oz tend to be very expensive. Cheers!
Very cool, thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I can not justify buying small fractional gold with the current high spot price + high premiums + state tax if I do not hit the 1k threshold for bullion. Unless something goes on sale (LOL) or buy on the dip (missed today's meltdown) but there will likely be other opportunities to come. If I would need to liquidate would sell silver or junk before gold.
The 1k tax threshold must be frustrating!
Helpful thinking on getting some gold
Stack what you can, when you can. As long as you are adding to the stack. Sometimes it's a tenth this month, maybe next month is a half ounce, the following month a handful of ASE. It all adds up in the end.
It's true. Thanks for watching!
Best advice I've seen here I'm new to stacking game
I wish you would've compared it to a penny or dime, something easily recognizable. People looking into 1/10oz of gold probably don't have a 1oz gold coin so comparing it to that doesn't really help visualize how big/small the coin actually is. Though I am glad you put it next to an ASE, but that still doesn't really do it justice.
Beautiful gold!! 👍
Yeah, thanks!
It's so much smaller than the one ounce, it looks like about a tenth of a ounce to me.
I just checked SD bullion for a quarter ounce gold eagle (May '22) and if I did the math right, they are charging 31% over spot!? A quarter ounce Britannia on the other hand was 8.5%. What's the freaky dealy yo?
Yep, this is the world we live in.
Tenths were nice at $135 not long ago. Multiply by ten and $1350 an ounce shows the premiums weren't so bad. Ten times $235 brings you to $2350. Some may have super high premiums for 1/10s. According to Miles Franklin the US Mint is only producing 1 oz. gold eagles and buffalos. No fractionals. They may get harder to get. Check out prices at Apmex for gold fractionals. Will that be a trend? The mint is producing silver eagles, but not enough.
The Mint has an abnormal amount of demand at the moment after shutting down. Hopefully they’ll get caught up soon! Cheers!
I have a couple 1/10oz coins they were a steal $227 i had to get them so im gonna get a total of 5 and focus on 1/4s
Buying a 1/10th oz AGE is almost the same price as a quarter ounce. Might as well save for that quarter. Makes more sense.
Quarters are my go-to for fractional. 1/10 seem to be about half the price of 1/4 (but not half the gold). This definitely wasn't a value buy! 😀
So I have a bunch of little gold coins and I got most of them before I knew any better but I did watch this one video where the guy was talking about how much gold would be in the future and that maybe the smaller amounts of gold would be more liquid because most people wouldn’t have enough money to buy the bigger ones. So yea the premiums are terrible but maybe it will be good for future liquidation because more people could purchase smaller amounts when you go to sell.
There's nothing wrong with the coins whatsoever, but I don't know that I agree that 1/10oz coins are better because they'll be more affordable. My local coin shops still buy and sell more 1oz than anything, even though prices have shot up.
@@2is1gold I wish I had a good LCS everyone I called today was out of gold and not only that they are super low on silver too! We don’t have shit in Washington state lol
Great channel brother. 🤗
Thank you!
They're beautiful coins, I just picked up a few.
They’re definitely nice! Cheers!
I like the 1/4 gold coins as there cheaper i know its not cheaper in long run than an 1oz but at least it doesn't take as long to be able to buy 1
I definitely get that. 1/4pz coins were my primary purchases for many years!
Interestingly though not sure about the rest of the world but in the U.K. fractional coins hold there premium when you sell them. Not everyone can afford £1500 on one ounce of gold but can afford £100 or £150 so they do tend to keep that premium.
Everyone here will tell you they retain their premium as well, but it depends on the buyer. If you're okay selling them peer to peer (which is a hassle) you'll get back your premium. If you sell to a LCS, you'll get back _some) of your premium. I see about $10 of a $40 premium coming back. Cheers!
2 is 1 it’s interesting. As a rule on the few occasions I’ve sold it’s been peer to peer via FB groups and always made my premium back but the one time I sold to a bullion dealer I also got my premium back just not quite as much as selling peer to peer. Nothing like holding a big gold coin though lol
Matthew Smith: I'm also in the UK and I mostly buy Sovereigns which are slightly less than 1/4 ounce. They're recognised all over the world so there's no problem selling them.
As far as fractional gold, 1/4 oz. is definitely a much better buy than the 1/10 oz.
No question! It surprises me that the 1/4 oz aren't the most popular fractional coins. Cheers!
Silver unless u got a crap load it's basically just stupid. I held silver for years never made not 1 dollar. Gold is where it's at
Brian Cagle I’m the same. Nothing against anybody’s strategy, but I bought it for more than a decade (paused for a bit during the 2011 stupidity) and it didn’t do anything for me. Gold did. Cheers!
I like looking at my stack and having coins of all different sizes. Working on getting 10 1/10 AGE got 7 so far! After that gonna work on getting some 1/4ths
Fair point. Variety is good. Cheers!
I got 13 1/4th oz AGE and sold all my Canadian Maple Leaf 10 1/10th and 4 1/4th Maples. Maples also get damaged easily which caused me to hate em. AGE are my favorite for what it is. I had all my maples in original seals in my pocket and checked it at the end of the day they were all scratched from rubbing against each other.
@@JohnSmith-dt7gu I definitely handle my Maples differently than my other coins. Even Buffalos seem less prone to scratching. Cheers!
LOL, I love how you always has a super nice knife. What is your knife to good spending ratio? 10 to 1?
Shhhh. Don’t tell anyone. 😄
I have never bought anything below a 1/2 ounce of gold....yet....I do have my eye on some pre-33 fractional though.
I've purchased plenty of off-size fractionals like Sovereigns and LMUs, but I don't have any pre-33 gold, and I've never bought a 1/2 oz coin. So many options!
I'm buying still. I'm not to concern to much with price right now. I still get ok deals here and there
I’m almost used to the current prices already, personally. Cheers!
Gold is solid. If it drops, long term stackers are just going to but Oz batches. Who knows, there could be a trend and the price goes nuts. If bitcoin can do it, why not physical gold.
I've been buying fractional gold since 2012. My last purchase? Last week. A Dos Peso Mexican gold coin. Last time I bought one it was $65, this time? $110.
That escalated quickly!
@@2is1gold Yep ... While I thought I got ripped off I checked eBay prices, $140-$150, so... I guess I got a deal?
If you had say for example, 10 or maybe 20 1/10th oz. gold maple leafs ( I don't know in this instance it would be leaves...lol), in original factory plastic sheets, would you leave them be or cut them all out and put them in capsules? Only curious. All opinions welcome! Thanks in advance.
I’m not sure what I’d do if the sheet was full. If some had been removed, I’d remove the rest. Cheers!
Premiums on the 1/10 is imho way too high to make it a regular buy - at least in Europe. Like I always say I like to diversify a little and there's nothing wrong with buying smaller denominations once in a while and sure for gifts too if people wants cash and you don't want to give them cash. But it comes at a large premium. A quick price check locally I can buy 1/10 ounce new bullion and a vintage Danish 10 kroner in the same price range. Doing the number crunch I'll get ½ gram for free in the vintage coin compared to modern bullion and if selling to a dealer there's no way you get the premium back - it's a nobrainer.
For the 1/4 oz size range the picture is a little better. A vintage Danish 20 kroner vs 1/4 oz are pretty much the same price - here you'll only get ~0,2 gram "for free".
For pure bullion I normally don't go lower than 1/4 oz. For vintage coins I normally don't go lower than the French 20 franc (5,8 gram). Of course there's always a few exceptions and a great deal might turn up unexpected. New Sovereigns aren't quite a 1/4 oz on the other hand premiums are none the less very low on those from trusted online dealers. Gold in Europe is more equal no matter origin. Pretty much regardless size and origin you'll always get spot when selling to a dealer - so what count the most is the premium. Sure selling privately or special items with numismatical value you might get a little more - especially if in good condition.
Got 4 1/10oz coins coming.
Bought 2.5g bars (10).
Talk about small..good fractional value at 150 dollars if you need to sell in an emergency..
Perfect knife for opening gold.
Yes sir!!
So I been doing research on buying 1/10oz gold vs 1/4oz
So far if we are looking at spot you are paying $50 more for a 1/4oz
And
$20-$25 over spot
For 1/10oz
This is me looking at SD bullion btw.
I grabbed up a 1/2oz gold 2020 Britannia. Today. Got great price. My tiny stack is going up
Brian Cagle congrats - I love the Britannias. One of the best looking coins in my opinion. Cheers!
I've been getting 1/10 eagles at about $230 average the last 6 weeks at my LCS.....I have 10 of them now (only 6 were added in the past 6 weeks though)
I’ve seen them for $240 the last few times the LCS has had them. $275 at most of the online dealers, though. 😬 $250 was a “deal” online. 😄
I am able to get 1/10 oz eagles for around $200 at my LCS.
@Pat R Good choice - I have moved over to just saving Eagles.
I went for an international 1/10 ounce gold stack. 10 different countries in 1/10 size. Resale isn't my goal. The variety is. But due to premiums it will be the only one I have. Quarter ounce is my preferred size.
I like quarters too. Variety can be fun. And expensive.
@@2is1gold Indeed it can, but as long as you keep your head about it. You should be fine. My base is obviously AGE and Maple. Recognition pieces. And I think your call on Kangaroos is spot on. Recognized, but with a lower premium.
i usually save up money till i can buy a 1 oz coin.but a few smaller ones are OK to have,because in an emergency i can trade or sell them easier then a whole oz.i also buy rare pocketknifes so i know a lot more about knifes then gold.just tell you because i saw the sebenza at the beginning of the video.good knife.greetings from germany
I love Sebenzas. Cheers!
@@2is1gold a little advice from me.never start collecting knives or watches or anything.with the sebenza you already own a really good one.for me its too late.i spend at least 15 k on knifes and edc gear.better stick to gold
@@heikoballing4489 too late! 😁
Being late to the game that I am my plan is to buy enough 1/10 oz to hold both 1/10 and then trade up 1/4 and repeat the process over and over. Maybe not the best plan but it's one I can easily understand and gets me in the door at least
Fracs are the easiest resale; because the most people can afford them. Fracs are the ONLY option for low income stackers. Fracs recover their premiums and hold value even if it takes a little longer. Zoom out, no regrets.
The coins are beautiful but I can’t bring myself to buy them. In Ireland a single Oz coin will cost €38 when the spot price is €20. If you buy bulk then the price per coin will come down to €29. Thd buyback price is then pretty much spot, so to me this would be a luxury item purchase to give as a gift or as a coin collector only. As an investment it just seems insane.
The spread on bars is much narrower and makes much more sense to me.
I love maple leaf's there so simply but so beautiful
Agree!
I like having all the sizes. All the GOLD!!!
ALL THE GOLD is a good battle cry!
Nice CRK!!!
what other stabbies you have?
just got in a ADV Butcher and Medford Praetorian
Nice! I like the Praetorian a lot! I have a few Shirogorovs I'm into at the moment. A Rockstead Higo II. A Grimsmo Norseman. So many great knife makers these days!
im thinking going into 1/10 oz gold coins. because the 1 ounce is so expensive for my economy. And IF just if gold every is to be a real currency, a 1500$ to 2000$ unit is quite large . A 200$ unit 1/10 is a much better trading unit, 3.1g AU . And its a wider variety of faces, like the Somalia Republic shilling African Wildlife . There is nothing like the colour of gold . For 1 oz of gold you can buy 2 kilo of silver . It depend on how much space you got around . If a real currency of gold was to take place, it must be 1 gram and 1/2 gram units .
Yeah, I think the 1/10 oz coins have a lot of benefits. They just have such a high premium typically.
A new-to-collecting buddy of mine and I have recently come to the conclusion that trying to stack fractional gold is a fool's game. After "investing" over $330 on a 1/10 toz Aussie WWII commemorative gold coin - literally the size of your thumbnail - and 1 Gram of gold (worst decision ever), he calls me up and we go to 3 different local places AFTER gold spot price was up ~$23 over the time they were purchased. Lo and behold, nobody is offering anywhere NEAR what was paid for two pieces of gold (out the door, plus shipping) and he would have taken a pretty stout loss. We've decided it's better to concentrate on more affordable silver 1 toz rounds and coins, and play the silver-to-gold ratio over the long term. You get way more metal in your hands with silver and it's more likely you'll be able to use it to barter if SHTF.
It definitely takes a while to get ahead of sunk costs like premium/shipping. I’ve made some questionable purchases in the past that turned out fine as the price of gold has increased. I’ve had more moderate luck converting silver to gold. Good luck to you!
I think any size gold coin is good to have👍
I found a 40th oz coin the other day! You read that right haha! Nice pieces there
Wow, less than a gram! 😀
@@2is1gold Yeah hope I don't drop it haha
Very expensive button. I like that. 👍