Apex locators - Correct method to measure working length !!

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  • Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
  • This is description of method of use of electronic apex locators and their accuracy during Root Canal Treatment.
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  • @sayantankarmakar3150
    @sayantankarmakar3150 3 роки тому +6

    Eye opening explanations especially about the multiple constrictions. Thank you

  • @kf-ot6vw
    @kf-ot6vw 3 роки тому +1

    Can't thank u enough.... I ve asked this question to many endodontists and even they cudnt answer why they do what they do.. Thanks a lot I finally got an answer.... 👌

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому

      I am happy to know that it is helpful🙏🙏

  • @dramitsupekar6727
    @dramitsupekar6727 2 роки тому +2

    Very informative sir
    Hats off to ur patience!
    1.How about stopping at the end of blue zone or 1 mark?
    2.After how many days of access opening one can obturate ...in different types of cases
    3.Can we go for crown prep immediately after obturation (what i usually do)?

  • @psainibds
    @psainibds 3 роки тому +4

    Hi, Dr Sukhwant, your lectures are always precise and very informative for clinicians in day to day practice. Thanks for your YT channel. Looking forward to do endo course under you, whenever situation allows after this COVID 19.

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому

      Thankyou brother🙏🙏
      Always there

    • @drmdzia6221
      @drmdzia6221 3 роки тому +1

      @@Endocrisps sir gd evening sir in some canal j mortia not showing working length in some cases what we b the reason fr that ....shll I should change the battery 🔋 of it

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому

      Slightly moist the canal.
      Error reading can happen in dry canals

  • @dr.abbasali3841
    @dr.abbasali3841 Рік тому +2

    Literally sir....you opened my eyes for the W/L determination ....i was making mistakes daily while taking working length and was always violating apical constriction and was doing over-instrumentation...Tysm sir 🙏

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  Рік тому +1

      🙏🙏

    • @dr.abbasali3841
      @dr.abbasali3841 Рік тому +1

      @@Endocrisps one more thing sir ....is there any new literature which tells to prepare till Apex ( for e.g. If Apex locator reading is 00 at 20mm then is it compulsory to prepare till 20mm to completely remove pulp tissues ? )

    • @dr.abbasali3841
      @dr.abbasali3841 Рік тому

      I completely understood.your point ..There is no confusion.... I'm just asking is there any changes in new studies recently ?

  • @vijyantmehrotra8119
    @vijyantmehrotra8119 4 місяці тому +1

    Very nicely explained dear 👏

  • @unstoppable2242
    @unstoppable2242 3 роки тому +1

    Im so happy to find you😍😍😍😍👐💐🎉 I hate endodonty so I hope after you I will love Endodonty🌸🌸🌸

  • @nmda9578
    @nmda9578 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you. Very helpful.

  • @sacredholymonk
    @sacredholymonk 3 роки тому +1

    beautiful lecture.

  • @256anu
    @256anu 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for informative video

  • @bharatrathi2310
    @bharatrathi2310 3 роки тому +3

    Informative sir. Its like shaktimaan's " choti magar moti baatein". Good job sir.

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому +1

      Haha
      Thankyou🙏🙏

    • @bharatrathi2310
      @bharatrathi2310 3 роки тому +1

      Sir, accordingly our obturation should terminate furthur 1 or 0.5 mm short than working length got by apex locator ?

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому +1

      @@bharatrathi2310 Obturation should be done till Working Length. Why short?

    • @bharatrathi2310
      @bharatrathi2310 3 роки тому +1

      Ok sir. I confused it with radiographic apex

    • @bharatrathi2310
      @bharatrathi2310 3 роки тому +1

      I have zx mini. Zx 2 and mini are equally accurate ?

  • @drshabbirthedentist293
    @drshabbirthedentist293 2 роки тому

    Got your point sir... I m doing rcts since 2010 but have a bad obsession of going beyond apex coz of fear of ledging and blocking... So my rcts are successful mostly.. But after obturation... Pt complains of pain for about 2 weeks. That's why was thinking of buying a new inbuilt zx II or braseller endosync AI.

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  2 роки тому +1

      Injury to periapical area is the cause of post op pain I guess 👍

    • @drshabbirthedentist293
      @drshabbirthedentist293 2 роки тому

      @@Endocrisps right sir 👍

  • @rajesh-kn4mb
    @rajesh-kn4mb 2 роки тому +1

    Sir super and clear video ......

  • @karishmakohli4566
    @karishmakohli4566 2 роки тому +1

    very informative video sir

  • @drsanjeev1000
    @drsanjeev1000 3 роки тому +2

    Clear video sir.
    I have s denti i root apex locator. Its very accurate in presence of saline. I do only to 0.5 mm mark always. Confirmation file x ray and master cone x ray comes around 0.5 mm short of radiographic apex on that length

  • @yamironnie
    @yamironnie Рік тому +2

    Thanks you so much doc!
    1. Does the 0.0 reading mean CDJ?
    2. Where should the WL be? 0.0 or 0.5?

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  Рік тому

      CDJ you can't determine with Apex locator
      WL at 0.5

  • @pallavibhailume421
    @pallavibhailume421 2 роки тому +3

    Very informative video ...sir
    Means final working length, we have to keep 1mm short of apex ???

  • @hamzahussain7794
    @hamzahussain7794 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you so much sir!!! I was having lots of trouble with working length measurement. Also which file do you use for measurement? No.10 or no.15 file?

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому +2

      🙏🙏
      File should be snugly fit in canal, neither loose nor tight for WL measurement.
      Especially for molar's narrow canal #10 is suitable🙏🙏

    • @hamzahussain7794
      @hamzahussain7794 3 роки тому +1

      @@Endocrisps Oh ok thanks alot! I will use 10 for posterior and 15 for anterior then!

    • @hamzahussain7794
      @hamzahussain7794 3 роки тому

      @@Endocrisps Hello sir, I am currently working on a mandibular first molar, I have taken a radiograph with no 15 in each mesial canal and 20 in distal canal. The file is not going further and patient feels pain at this point
      Can you please check the lined radiograph and give your expert opinion?
      Link: imgur.com/gallery/eGK4dDy

    • @hama4291
      @hama4291 2 роки тому +1

      Give anesthesia inside the canal and pain will go, I think there is another distal canal also,,, hand files usually don't reach apex even in distal canals sometimes times especially vital teeth,, so pre enlarge coronal 2 thirds with sx s1 and s2,, and use full strength naocl for that, then set your thinnest rotary file ( which is s1 protaper or the 3% taper files( like pathfinder,, or expeditors) to the estimated radiographic apex and go few stokes without pressure,, irrigate,, re do it and this time it will go further,, irrigate,,, re do it until length, then use the apex locater to see if you have achieved patency to zero reading, if you reach this moment then you have ended the difficult part! Now go back 0.5 to 1.0 mm to measure working length,, now use s2 then carry on to finisher files,, make sure you file is standing as straight as possible in relation to long access of the tooth after the 2/3 thirds enlargement,, if not then you probably haven't enlarged correctly,, probably didn't brush the files against the dentin triangle away from fur cation.....

  • @Devakshi102
    @Devakshi102 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks sir. Very informative. 👍 How is woodpecker woodpex 3 gold apex locator??

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому

      🙏
      No idea about woodpecker

  • @amareshdora2600
    @amareshdora2600 3 роки тому +1

    Much needed

  • @drjeeveshmaxfacsurgery
    @drjeeveshmaxfacsurgery 2 роки тому +2

    For an example , at apex length is 19mm
    we came at 0.5 marking so it would be 18.5 so final working length must be 18?

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  2 роки тому +1

      Focus on 0.5 mark in apex locator screen. Reach that part and then reduce 0.5 mm. This is best method.
      If you have gone till apex, come back 0.5 mark and measure the file length and the reduce 0.5 mm

  • @rajesh-kn4mb
    @rajesh-kn4mb 2 роки тому +1

    Sometime while calculating working length ....file doesn't reach apex smoothly...upon giving apical pressure apex locator shows reading or its fluctuating a lot ....in such cases how to go about???? please share

  • @rajesh-kn4mb
    @rajesh-kn4mb 2 роки тому +1

    Is the same principle holds good for woodpecker 5 model apexlocator.....as i tried the same concept as shared by u in video....
    Please respond

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  2 роки тому

      I am not sure about woodpecker

  • @wickedchandy
    @wickedchandy 2 роки тому

    Very informative video sir, amazing. Sir how is NSK ipex ll apex locator?

  • @bharatparwani7509
    @bharatparwani7509 3 роки тому +1

    Sir..is it necessary to remove all th pulp from the canal before using apex locator?

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому

      Hi
      No need in case of RootZX.
      Explained in video - principles of apex locator

  • @drtayyabfaraz_10
    @drtayyabfaraz_10 2 роки тому +1

    Can a root canal success if we are short 2 mm from apical constriction coronally ?

  • @runalichavan4395
    @runalichavan4395 3 роки тому +1

    Sir which apex locator is best other than root zx for beginners.Root zx is quite expensive

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому

      Wait for some more months, go for the best. Apex locator is related to accuracy, so don't compromise. 👍

  • @vidhyasagarashok6704
    @vidhyasagarashok6704 3 роки тому +1

    Useful

  • @mukhterahmad6894
    @mukhterahmad6894 3 роки тому +1

    Very good nformation

  • @adityasharma2k
    @adityasharma2k 3 роки тому +1

    Hello doc ....plz suggest some economical apex locator, that have good accuracy..
    Hows woodpeckers apex locator????

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому +1

      I never used woodpecker apex locator. No idea about its accuracy.
      If there is any little discrepancy in accuracy because of quality, it forfeits the purpose. So go for best. J Morita is best till date🙏

  • @AmritAssi
    @AmritAssi 2 роки тому +1

    So that means staying till the end of the blue zone yes ?
    And not extending the working length to green

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  2 роки тому +1

      Go till 0.5 mm mark and then reduce 0.5 mm

    • @AmritAssi
      @AmritAssi 2 роки тому +1

      @@Endocrisps Ok sir, thank you

  • @rajeevdave8451
    @rajeevdave8451 3 роки тому +1

    Sir woodpecer or epex which apex locater is good

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому

      I never used them.
      No idea. Take a demo correlate with xray and compare👍

  • @angelicafoster670
    @angelicafoster670 3 роки тому +1

    what does " apex word" or 0.0 point refer to ? radiographic apex or minor constricton?

  • @chandrasekharsahoo6713
    @chandrasekharsahoo6713 2 роки тому

    Calcium hydroxide how many days we can keep in the canal as intracanal medicaments

  • @deepanshunigam1019
    @deepanshunigam1019 3 роки тому +1

    Hi sir again a very infomative video
    Plz advice if i should not invest in a cord or cordless endomotor
    And which of which brand

    • @drmahanthashok3685
      @drmahanthashok3685 3 роки тому

      Buy cordless. Easy to maintain and no wires

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому +1

      Yes cordless endomotor is easy to take care and convenient too.
      You can go with any brand come in your budget.
      Oricam, NSK, waldent are good brands and in economical range too. Call their dealers and test them first.

    • @drmdzia6221
      @drmdzia6221 3 роки тому +1

      Hi sir very good evening.....sir first time I am taking root zx mini wll it show accurate reading...plz hlp me sir

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому

      @@drmdzia6221 yes it will show accurate reading. Good tool👍

    • @drmdzia6221
      @drmdzia6221 3 роки тому +1

      @@Endocrisps ..sir after canal open we shld do minimal bmp ya direct we should put the file for taking wrking length....plz its request to u ...ya canal shld b dry

  • @mukeshadwani4695
    @mukeshadwani4695 3 роки тому +1

    Means sir total 1 mm short of the first marked lenght???

  • @Hamed.dhmf7
    @Hamed.dhmf7 Рік тому +1

    Dr why do you reduce 0.5 mm from file length in 0.5 point of apex locator?
    You mention it as a saftey factor
    I can accept it for irreversible pulpitis but in necrotic situation the whole length should be cleaned!

    • @Hamed.dhmf7
      @Hamed.dhmf7 Рік тому +1

      And according to the research that you mention it in 70% of cases number 0.5 was between AC and AF
      If this point is end of cleaning and shapin and obturation
      Why do we reduce .05mm?!!?!

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  Рік тому

      Safety factor is guven because we can control our rotary files exactly on WL. It may slip beyond the WL. If you are concerned about last 0.5 mm then you can prepare that part with Hand 15-20 # k file.

  • @vijyantmehrotra8119
    @vijyantmehrotra8119 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm 52 year old Dental Surgeon

  • @alpeshjain5171
    @alpeshjain5171 3 роки тому +1

    So to keep it simple how much short shld be keep it from apical constriction .is it 0.5mm short from apical constriction

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому

      Yes correct👌

    • @alpeshjain5171
      @alpeshjain5171 3 роки тому +1

      So take away from ths video is 0.5 mark is apical constriction n our working length shld be 0.5 mm short from that mark (apical constriction )...

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому

      Yes👍

  • @hijamaworld9917
    @hijamaworld9917 3 роки тому +1

    Sir.. u lecture are awesome.. what are m1 ,m2----m6 programs in triauto zx mini endomotor with apex locator.. how to use it and what values we should set in each program.and where to use this programs

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому +1

      Thankyou for appreciating !!!
      I wl try to explain all the modes of tri auto root zx in one of the coming videos

  • @katyaynigupta5259
    @katyaynigupta5259 4 місяці тому +1

    then we should cut gp... or not...if we r taking wl at 1 reading of apex locator

  • @dr.premsinghrathor4031
    @dr.premsinghrathor4031 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому

      🙏🙏

    • @drmdzia6221
      @drmdzia6221 3 роки тому +1

      @@Endocrisps sir may god bless u with good health ....I have done many of root canal by j Morita....00 is the final working length in j mortia....In my clinic two consultant wll cme the wll stop the file when file stop at 00 in j Morita

  • @yashshaha2373
    @yashshaha2373 2 роки тому +1

    Sir I have coxo Apex locator integrated can u pls tell how to read it's reading?

  • @21rup
    @21rup 3 роки тому +2

    How we can reduce 0.5 mm in rotary file or hand file ... during final working length

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому +1

      Either by radiographs or apex locator once you decide that this is your length till apex in radiographs and 0.5 mm mark in apex locator. Suppose this is 20 mm, then final WL will be 0.5mm less that is 19.5mm.🙏🙏

    • @Devakshi102
      @Devakshi102 3 роки тому +1

      @@Endocrisps if till apex is 20mm , then 19.5 will be between apical constriction n foramen . So will 19mm be final working length??

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому

      Correct👌👌

  • @bharatparwani7509
    @bharatparwani7509 3 роки тому +1

    Sir what is this 0.5 mm mark...is this preset by company or we have to set it? Please elaborate.

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому +1

      Yes its preset.
      You can only set the alarming sound.
      You can set that at apex, 0.5 or 1.

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому

      When file will reach near apical constriction, screen will show reading at 0.5 mark. You can't adjust this. Only thing you can change is the timing of beep sound.

    • @bharatparwani7509
      @bharatparwani7509 3 роки тому +1

      Sir I have root zx mini...same things hold true for zx mini also??
      One more thing...what readings will be shown on screen if we cross the apex?

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому +1

      Yes same for root ZX mini.
      Apex will flash on screen as soon as you go in apex (cross apical foramen)

    • @bharatparwani7509
      @bharatparwani7509 3 роки тому +1

      @@Endocrisps thanks sir

  • @zeadiraqy9134
    @zeadiraqy9134 2 роки тому +1

    If the reading was 00 that it mean I should substract 1 mm??

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  2 роки тому

      Focus on 0.5 mark only
      There is no relevance of other marks.
      Reduce 0.5 mm from this 0.5 mark length

    • @zeadiraqy9134
      @zeadiraqy9134 2 роки тому +1

      Dr. Is morita apex locator is previously seated when we buy it??

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  2 роки тому

      You have to assemble it. 👍

    • @zeadiraqy9134
      @zeadiraqy9134 2 роки тому

      In case of periapical lesion the apex locator give me lesser reading how can i fix that problem

  • @drmahanthashok3685
    @drmahanthashok3685 3 роки тому +1

    Sir can you recommend some good Loupes in India.

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому +1

      1. Carl Zeiss
      2. Zumax are good too.
      I tried Carl Zeiss 2-3 times but not used regularly. No personal experience.

  • @vishugalhotra5175
    @vishugalhotra5175 7 місяців тому +1

    Best sealer????

  • @jagadeeshkodithyala2439
    @jagadeeshkodithyala2439 3 роки тому +1

    What is the "00" marking on apex locator

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому +1

      Not significant in RootZX apex locator.
      0.5 mm is the only significant finding which is close to apical constriction 🙏🙏

    • @jagadeeshkodithyala2439
      @jagadeeshkodithyala2439 3 роки тому +1

      @@Endocrisps in root zx mini "00" is the end point

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  3 роки тому +1

      According to company
      00 doesn't signify anything🙏

  • @rajatpradhan712
    @rajatpradhan712 2 роки тому +1

    What in case of ramifications?

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  2 роки тому

      Apex locator doesn't give reliable indication of ramifications

  • @suvayu009
    @suvayu009 2 роки тому +1

    One question.Can Pulpal remenants give false result in apex locator?

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  2 роки тому

      Not in case of Root ZX third generation

  • @wickedchandy
    @wickedchandy 2 роки тому +1

    Sir I have one question, I checked working length on apex locator on a lower molar, the file was 0.5 mm from the apex, I was happy and didn't took xray and obturated at that length but when I saw the final xray of obturation I was shocked to see the GP atleast 3 mm short in all canals of lower molars, sir what could have been the case for such discrepancy, and do I need to do re rct in this case immediately and re establish working length.

    • @Endocrisps
      @Endocrisps  2 роки тому +1

      Purpose of Apex locator is to locate apical constriction the narrowest point in canal but for best results the file should be within 2-3 mm of apical third of root👍

    • @wickedchandy
      @wickedchandy 2 роки тому +1

      @@Endocrisps Oh thank you so much sir, many thanks.

  • @tttttg3713
    @tttttg3713 Рік тому +1

    how repair apex locator

  • @mohdsakib5438
    @mohdsakib5438 2 роки тому

    Sir apex locator ka use hindi m samjhaiye