thanks Andrew! .. that is one beautiful machine. It's hard to beat the 7 for just playing, sitting in the middle etc... but the 21 is the ultimate "all around" machine.. its fast, its STOL capable, it has tons of luggage capability, etc. does everything pretty darn good.
GravityKnightFlying I agree, I think I’d still take a 7 as your mission is what mine would be but yes you’re definitely right! It’s a jack of all trades.
Great to see the 1st overnight expedition in the 7. I would have liked to see a short 20 or 30 second clip on each of the other planes and guys on the trip, assuming they are ok being on camera of course.
@@plantpower3048 it was a factory built wing, I don’t believe the longer wing is an option anymore.. it dropped stall a couple mph over std wing. it has vg’s. 21 is a great backcountry airplane but not a hardcore off airport plane. Lands a bit fast, but the main thing holding it back is the gear- it’s not on par with cabane style gear. The tail attach point isn’t as tough as some tube/fabric cub style birds either. So depends on your mission. It hauls a big load and cruises real fast so it’s all a tradeoff as I’m sure you know.
Your channel is awesome. Any chance you could share the coordinates of these sandbars. I'm a scenery developer in XPlane and these would make an awesome addition to our bush flying group. thanks
You no doubt know this, but when around those wind farms, keep a very sharp eye out for those damn anemometer (MET towers) towers. The older ones are flat grey, 150' tall, and guyed, and really hard to see. They may still be up on the outskirts of the farm, as they explore expanding possibly. Just because it's an up and running wind farm doesn't mean they won't still be there, they are in my area anyway! New regs mean the old ones are out of compliance, and I have personally taken down two "orphaned" towers, (with permission)as they are often abandoned once the high dollar telemetry equipment at their base is removed.
We have a couple of those around the wind farms where I'm located too.. they left 1 or 2 of them up, and took down 1 or 2.. which is interesting and must mean just what you said about exploring options for expanding. And good advice.. those nasty things will jump out in front of you- you are not wrong about that!
i dont mean to be offtopic but does any of you know of a tool to log back into an Instagram account..? I was stupid lost the account password. I would love any assistance you can offer me.
@Cullen Lawrence I really appreciate your reply. I found the site on google and im waiting for the hacking stuff now. Takes quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
The 21 tri with the bush gear yes. There was maybe one or two islands I landed on that might be too short for a 21 (maybe).. but roughness wise, most of this stuff wasn't too bad and that tri gear 21 with the larger nose wheel etc. would do great!! The large nose is the key for sure... a small nose wheel would plow sand and wont turn and its hard on everything up there... but I think the one with the 8.00 or whatever they are putting on it would ride on top of the sand and do well.
I'm happy Bennie... everything there is working well.. they have outputs to warning lights which I have installed at the top of the panel to get your attention if anything is wrong... just the right amount of features ya know..
I've heard about landing on on the sandbars along the Arkansas, but I had no idea it was that beautiful! Do you mind revealing roughly you were? Just fooling around on Google Maps, it looks like the campsite was a few miles West of Arkcity.
I think you found it.... close to Geuda Springs! Well worth the trip I think I landed on at least 10 different spots, probably more.. and there was another 2-5 landable in that area between Oxford and Kaw Lake...
@@GravityKnightFlying Well, I've got my tiller set for a for the Arkansas River around Arkansas CIty set as soon as I finish the S7. ( Actually, I better learn to land it first.) We had a big job in Arkansas City a year ago, as a result I've flown down there many times in the Bonanza and landed at Strother Field. Little did I know there was a STOL playground just a few miles West. Great video Todd.
@@kcpumpguy Great playground indeed! Enjoy that! Strother has a nice grass strip they cut out for bushwheels we found out which was great also. Still haven't ever had the 7 on pavement... and hopefully never will.
@@GravityKnightFlying Not with those expensive Alaska Bushwheels, hopefully they will never see asphalt. I read somewhere about how many landings the Bushwheels can take on pavement (not many) then divided into what they cost and came up with something ridiculous like $25 a landing.
This was south of Oxford I believe (on the Arkansas of course). We traveled from around oxford down into oklahoma, but we were camped in KS. That whole stretch had a LOT of awesome sandbars! but.. quite a few spots with powerlines (which im sure you are aware of, but just a heads up).
Some of your best work yet if you want to call it work. Loved hearing the music that came out of your engine. Got some questions for you: 1. Did you build your plane? 2. What did you think of the S21? 3. How long was the flight from Co? 4. Have you been brave enough to figure out your cost per hour? looked like an absolute blast.
I did not build it.. just modified it a lot (new panel, fuel injection, VG's, stuff like that....) The 21 is the ultimate "all around" machine in my opinion. It does so many things well. So my 7 is going to get off and land a little bit shorter, and its very fun sitting in the middle when out playing - can't beat the visibility... but in every other way the 21 will outshine it. The 21 is fast, huge baggage area, more useful load by far, higher g-rating, roll rate is faster even... it's really hard to beat if you use your plane for multiple things which most of us of course do. I love the 7, like I say.. great for playing in the dirt... but I could use more baggage room mainly!
@@GravityKnightFlying Agree on the 21 assessment. I'd love to see what it could do with one of Steve Henry's yamaha apex engines on it. The Bearhawk Patrol is another plane that seems to do it all very well. There's something so pure about the flying you do and you capture it very well on your videos. The day is coming when you won't be able to keep up and reply. Have a great weekend.
@@scotth985 agreed on all of what you said...if I could do things over again, I think I'd go for an apex(epex) too...very much appreciate the kind words... thanks!
@@GravityKnightFlying I agree on the s21, looks like a great airplane. I've got a Bonanza that will cruise at 200MPH and I'm building an S7. For me having two planes will be the best of both worlds; Bonanza for going places, S7 if the mission is to simply put a smile on my face. The 21 is fast enough for reasonable cross-country use and has more than enough STOL ability to for outings with the cool backcountry kids. One of the main things I wanted in my fun airplane was centerline seating. That sealed the S7 for me. Side by side... bahhh, might as well fly the Bonanza.
@@kcpumpguy I agree with that totally. I really don't think I'll be able to go back to side by side seating... there is just something special about sitting in the middle. (I mean, for a fast airplane like the bonanza, who cares about that.... but for low and slow- centerline only for me, and it sounds like you get that as well!)
Possibly! I had someone who wanted it.. I need to touch base with them.. let me see what I can do. I have been so busy with the fuel injection etc. I had not even thought about it for a while.
@@deandalzell Hey Dean, I'm getting stuff ready to sell from the old setup. If you are interested in working something out for the manifold, contact me through the email in the about section on here if you would.. thanks! -Todd
@@GravityKnightFlying Todd I'm still interested in what you have. I apologize for not being an internet guru...ie can't find your email. Please call me 2084974187 thanks
I do have the T3, but I changed the shock to a rock shox and a lighter spring.. playing with spring rates as the stock spring was a bit stiff.. anyway... I have not changed the wheel yet, it's an 8" puematic tire on a matco fork. It does pretty well, though in soft / dry sand like we had there, it definitely is digging a trench. I would really like to go a little larger... 10", treadless.. and a bit wider would be perfect I think... I can't quite see spending the money on the baby bushwheel, so I'm kind of still looking around. May have to build the fork before it's over...
very well... I can take him on TO roll and landing roll, but not by much... and his is quite a bit faster (25mph maybe more?) Have a plan in the words that will give me more power, but still nothing I can do that will touch his cruise speeds! the 21 is a well rounded machine...
ya know, if you grab a notch of flaps shortly after the tail comes up, you can get off the ground a little sooner, thats an old Alaskan supercub technique
Monster's Inc. i grab full flaps on almost every take off, and it does help to pop it off sooner... (full on this, as the flaps aren’t real big, so full doesn’t hinder). Flaps are under your left leg in a 7, not up to the left (where they should be), but im used to it...
I want to get my PPL when I turn 15 and we’re I might be having it they cost on a average of £9,000 I would love to know from a pilot if this is a good price to get a PPL.
Hi Lucas... I want to say that is in the ballpark of the going rate these days? Although I haven't checked in a lot of years. It's definitely expensive no matter what.. most places let you pay as you go of course... which can be good money wise from month to month.. but sometimes you will end up spending more in the long run if you stretch it way out. I had parted out a project car and was lucky enough to have the money to get my license in 2 months or so.. flying a lot like that in a short period of time eliminates the re-learning that takes place when you have a lot of downtime in between lessons. Just some things to think about. But even if you can afford only to take a lesson here and there, you are still getting closer to that goal every time, and it's an awesome goal to have! Becoming a pilot is probably the thing I'm most proud of accomplishing in my life. -Todd
I have no idea what it cost in the UK, but that sounds a bit high for the US. £9000 pounds is nearly $11,000 dollars at current exchange. The number I hear kicked around the local flight school is more like $6500. It also depends a bit on what aircraft you train in. A well loved old Cessna 150 rents for a lot less than a late model 172 with a glass panel. All flying related things are more expensive in Europe, but £9,000 is too much for getting a PPL in the USA. So, come to the US and get your ticket here!
The flight schools in my area (Washington state Puget Sound/Seattle/North Everett area) range from $5,000 to $8,000, which is about £4,100 to £6,600 in the UK. £9,000 which translates to $11,000 here in the US, is incredibly expensive for a PPL. I can't believe how expensive it is to fly in Europe. The US really is the safe haven of recreational GA flying. If able, and the total trip costs + getting your PPL are less then if you were to do it in the UK, you should come to the US for a short stay to get your PPL here (assuming it counts in the UK).
I'm getting ready to call Rans and get a S7 coming my way, I was considering the 160hp UL for a engine. I've looked at all the engine options and I had Rotax in the past but I think I'm ready for a change and thought I would have a Viking or UL. Not sure how much I would need the Turbocharged version of any of these here in Michigan. Your input would be to turbocharge were your at I know but what are your thoughts on some of the other engine options?? You had too much fun on this trip, every aviators dream is going camping with the aircraft even some of us do it on floats.
Being turbocharged does add some complexity, and some pain in the a$$ no doubt about it. I love turbocharges, have always had turbo'd projects of all kinds... so they have a special place with me.. but if you don't have a weird draw to them like me, and are not at high altitude.. I would steer clear and save yourself some hassle! Maybe consider the Yamaha? Even non turbo'd, you can get 150-160hp in a light engine package. Weight is really key, and 7's don't like too much weight up front (becomes very hard to 3 point without weight in the back to offset it). Just a thought anyway. If I could do it all over again, I'd probably to a APEX (EPEX actually - turbo'd Edge version). Thanks for the msg Keith
He is a pilot, but was riding with the guy in the Orange RANS S-21. The 21 is pretty roomy. I believe he is building a 21... I think he is 6'5" at least. I'm 6'4" 250lbs, I had to modify my seat to go back a little further in the S7, but now I fit well! RANS planes usually accommodate larger pilots better than a lot of the other 2 seat planes out there from what I've seen.. part of what got me interested initially.
Wow, that was an excellent video! Similar to sandbars in my area of OK (see my vids). You did some great editing , appreciate the effort, I know it is not easy to do.😉.
yes.. Didn't really see much at first.. but after leaning it out of course I saw some.. but also there was another step to really dial in some efficiency... by using those tables in the tune I found that allow some boost by throttle position - this helped quite a bit. Basically, you are setting up the tune to allow higher throttle positions, while commanding less boost... I spent some time testing this in the air... as I did this, I was seeing the same RPM with less manifold pressure... because the throttle plate is opened further, but the servo is not pulling the wastegate as tight, it's more efficient than it is to have the throttle closed down, while working the turbo harder to get enough manifold pressure past a mostly closed off throttle plate. Made a fair difference. I don't have any actual fuel burn data yet.. and at some point I will.. plane is down right now, motor is out.... video on what happened coming out pretty soon.. Big build in progress.....wasn't planned :( but it will be ready to make some real power after this.
GravityKnightFlying ouch,well probably had to be done sooner or later,lol,so does the computer learn where to put the perimeters according to what position the throttle is in for different flying or is it a learning system,as some after market fuel injection systems are?
@@wreckum56 you set the "duty cycle" of the servo essentially, but there is a dynamic portion of the boost control. So it has room to pull it back when you limit via throttle position. There are requested boost target tables, but you use the duty cycle map to get it close... I haven't figured out how much control it has dynamically, but there is a range it can sway it to try and meet the target or target (after throttle position commanded boost reduction). It seems to bet better the more I fine tune and tweak it.. although it's not perfect in my opinion. But certainly usable!
I've got to stop watching these. It's like an alcoholic at a wine tasting party, or a eunuch at an orgy! Dammit, I want to get back in the air! Soon. I'm about to pull the trigger on an S7 kit.
hell yea man!!! as they say, you can sleep in your plane, but you can't fly your house around!!! haha... hey my motor is actually out of the plane right now.. I'll be putting up a vid on that.. oil leak was lot bigger issue than I thought on the sand bar 😱 as I started considering all sorts of ways to come up with enough money to fix it right... I realized I might just be addicted to flying (but I think I'm ok with that lol)....
With so many “look at my plane skimming on the water “ or “ landing on that hill” videos , I think , for a change, a video of a taildragger executing a proper landing at a class D airport would become an instant hit ...
I'm Soo glad I found your channel...the best content of flying adventures...
Hey thanks Jon!! appreciate that, thanks for hanging out
Sweet footage man! Loved it. Also, thanks for grabbing some footage of Brian’s S-21 tearing it up!
thanks Andrew! .. that is one beautiful machine. It's hard to beat the 7 for just playing, sitting in the middle etc... but the 21 is the ultimate "all around" machine.. its fast, its STOL capable, it has tons of luggage capability, etc. does everything pretty darn good.
GravityKnightFlying I agree, I think I’d still take a 7 as your mission is what mine would be but yes you’re definitely right! It’s a jack of all trades.
Outstanding vid, thanks for taking us along.
Great trip... great video Todd. Thanks for letting us come along!
awesome video! spectacular filming- loved the wheel washing !!!! The drone footage and music were beautiful !!!!
thank you :)
Nice video. Thanks. Glad everything is working with the S7.
Great video and even better time! Had a blast and we need to do it again soon!!
thanks Doug! Always a pleasure to hang out and fly with you 👍
Wonderful video adventure Todd, you are a pro!
man what a hard life , keep sharing Thanks
Great video! Looks fun! Can't wait to get to this kind of flying! I'm working on my instrument in a c152
nice 👍
That looks like heaven to me
You've given me new life goals.
Nice video Todd, happy birthday!
why thank you 👍
good job on the video. 7 looks great
Caught in a Blizzard. This is the Best I can find.
Great to see the 1st overnight expedition in the 7. I would have liked to see a short 20 or 30 second clip on each of the other planes and guys on the trip, assuming they are ok being on camera of course.
I wasn't notified of this video... I'm glad I checked in since I hadn't heard from you in awhile!
What an adventure !!!
SO AMAZING! Man, that’s my dream to have a plane like that and fly to spots like that. Congrats!
that outbound looks very stol capable
Does pretty good!! (This one has a prototype longer wing which helps as well).
@@GravityKnightFlying from factory? what about VGs or wing tips? I am between the S21 and the Superstol XL...It seems like the S21 did 200 feet T/L
@@plantpower3048 it was a factory built wing, I don’t believe the longer wing is an option anymore.. it dropped stall a couple mph over std wing. it has vg’s. 21 is a great backcountry airplane but not a hardcore off airport plane. Lands a bit fast, but the main thing holding it back is the gear- it’s not on par with cabane style gear. The tail attach point isn’t as tough as some tube/fabric cub style birds either. So depends on your mission. It hauls a big load and cruises real fast so it’s all a tradeoff as I’m sure you know.
Im jealous of your glass panel :)
Your channel is awesome. Any chance you could share the coordinates of these sandbars. I'm a scenery developer in XPlane and these would make an awesome addition to our bush flying group. thanks
I don't have coords.. but this may help? the stretch of the Arkansas river From Oxford KS, down to Kaw Lake in Oklahoma
You no doubt know this, but when around those wind farms, keep a very sharp eye out for those damn anemometer (MET towers) towers. The older ones are flat grey, 150' tall, and guyed, and really hard to see. They may still be up on the outskirts of the farm, as they explore expanding possibly. Just because it's an up and running wind farm doesn't mean they won't still be there, they are in my area anyway! New regs mean the old ones are out of compliance, and I have personally taken down two "orphaned" towers, (with permission)as they are often abandoned once the high dollar telemetry equipment at their base is removed.
We have a couple of those around the wind farms where I'm located too.. they left 1 or 2 of them up, and took down 1 or 2.. which is interesting and must mean just what you said about exploring options for expanding. And good advice.. those nasty things will jump out in front of you- you are not wrong about that!
i dont mean to be offtopic but does any of you know of a tool to log back into an Instagram account..?
I was stupid lost the account password. I would love any assistance you can offer me.
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@Cullen Lawrence I really appreciate your reply. I found the site on google and im waiting for the hacking stuff now.
Takes quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Cullen Lawrence it did the trick and I actually got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D
Thanks so much you saved my ass!
Nice flying. Do you think this could be done with the tri gear version of the S21? 11:58 was pretty hairy.
The 21 tri with the bush gear yes. There was maybe one or two islands I landed on that might be too short for a 21 (maybe).. but roughness wise, most of this stuff wasn't too bad and that tri gear 21 with the larger nose wheel etc. would do great!! The large nose is the key for sure... a small nose wheel would plow sand and wont turn and its hard on everything up there... but I think the one with the 8.00 or whatever they are putting on it would ride on top of the sand and do well.
So. Many. Sandbars!
1:10 the famous Dick Johnson pond !
God that is awesome let me ask you are you happy with the avionics you are using I’m fixing to buy mine and I like your set up
I'm happy Bennie... everything there is working well.. they have outputs to warning lights which I have installed at the top of the panel to get your attention if anything is wrong... just the right amount of features ya know..
Thanks man I’m fixing to start the paint process in my 7 and I really like your panel so I might copy some of it thanks brother
I've heard about landing on on the sandbars along the Arkansas, but I had no idea it was that beautiful! Do you mind revealing roughly you were? Just fooling around on Google Maps, it looks like the campsite was a few miles West of Arkcity.
I think you found it.... close to Geuda Springs! Well worth the trip I think I landed on at least 10 different spots, probably more.. and there was another 2-5 landable in that area between Oxford and Kaw Lake...
@@GravityKnightFlying Well, I've got my tiller set for a for the Arkansas River around Arkansas CIty set as soon as I finish the S7. ( Actually, I better learn to land it first.) We had a big job in Arkansas City a year ago, as a result I've flown down there many times in the Bonanza and landed at Strother Field. Little did I know there was a STOL playground just a few miles West.
Great video Todd.
@@kcpumpguy Great playground indeed! Enjoy that! Strother has a nice grass strip they cut out for bushwheels we found out which was great also. Still haven't ever had the 7 on pavement... and hopefully never will.
@@GravityKnightFlying Not with those expensive Alaska Bushwheels, hopefully they will never see asphalt. I read somewhere about how many landings the Bushwheels can take on pavement (not many) then divided into what they cost and came up with something ridiculous like $25 a landing.
Can you tell me wheee this sandbar is located? I live in southeast KS. What a great video. Good job.
This was south of Oxford I believe (on the Arkansas of course). We traveled from around oxford down into oklahoma, but we were camped in KS. That whole stretch had a LOT of awesome sandbars! but.. quite a few spots with powerlines (which im sure you are aware of, but just a heads up).
Some of your best work yet if you want to call it work. Loved hearing the music that came out of your engine. Got some questions for you: 1. Did you build your plane? 2. What did you think of the S21? 3. How long was the flight from Co? 4. Have you been brave enough to figure out your cost per hour? looked like an absolute blast.
I did not build it.. just modified it a lot (new panel, fuel injection, VG's, stuff like that....) The 21 is the ultimate "all around" machine in my opinion. It does so many things well. So my 7 is going to get off and land a little bit shorter, and its very fun sitting in the middle when out playing - can't beat the visibility... but in every other way the 21 will outshine it. The 21 is fast, huge baggage area, more useful load by far, higher g-rating, roll rate is faster even... it's really hard to beat if you use your plane for multiple things which most of us of course do. I love the 7, like I say.. great for playing in the dirt... but I could use more baggage room mainly!
@@GravityKnightFlying Agree on the 21 assessment. I'd love to see what it could do with one of Steve Henry's yamaha apex engines on it. The Bearhawk Patrol is another plane that seems to do it all very well. There's something so pure about the flying you do and you capture it very well on your videos. The day is coming when you won't be able to keep up and reply. Have a great weekend.
@@scotth985 agreed on all of what you said...if I could do things over again, I think I'd go for an apex(epex) too...very much appreciate the kind words... thanks!
@@GravityKnightFlying I agree on the s21, looks like a great airplane.
I've got a Bonanza that will cruise at 200MPH and I'm building an S7. For me having two planes will be the best of both worlds; Bonanza for going places, S7 if the mission is to simply put a smile on my face. The 21 is fast enough for reasonable cross-country use and has more than enough STOL ability to for outings with the cool backcountry kids.
One of the main things I wanted in my fun airplane was centerline seating. That sealed the S7 for me. Side by side... bahhh, might as well fly the Bonanza.
@@kcpumpguy I agree with that totally. I really don't think I'll be able to go back to side by side seating... there is just something special about sitting in the middle. (I mean, for a fast airplane like the bonanza, who cares about that.... but for low and slow- centerline only for me, and it sounds like you get that as well!)
Awesome. You should follow it all the way to the Mississippi. A long trip but big bars in the summer if you can take the humidity 😅
that would be tough in the summer haha! bet it's neat to see though
Boys and their toys!
Awesome!
Cool vid , Thanks great entertainment( New subscriber )
welcome Murray, thanks for hanging out!
Good one.
Great shooting! Which cameras you used?
I have two dji osmo action cameras for the plane, and a dji osmo pocket for handheld stuff.. thanks!
Awsome video as always, the edge performance engine definitely sounds different to the standard rotax
Like you say, Todd ''Ton of fun'' - thanks for making it!
I'm sure the river is freezing right now. Should do it again in August when the water is warmer and do a river float. South TX is know for this.
that would be a blast!
Hey I like your vids
I saw you put the old 914 parts in a box??? I need the plenum.
For sale???
Possibly! I had someone who wanted it.. I need to touch base with them.. let me see what I can do. I have been so busy with the fuel injection etc. I had not even thought about it for a while.
@@GravityKnightFlying Cool
I aquired a 914 configured as a pusher and I need a tractor for my project. Let me know.
Thanks
PS where is your home base?
@@deandalzell Hey Dean, I'm getting stuff ready to sell from the old setup. If you are interested in working something out for the manifold, contact me through the email in the about section on here if you would.. thanks! -Todd
@@GravityKnightFlying Todd
I'm still interested in what you have. I apologize for not being an internet guru...ie can't find your email. Please call me 2084974187 thanks
Hi Todd, did you change the tailwheel to match the Airstreak 29" capabilities? I think you have a T3 suspension system, but what about the wheel?
I do have the T3, but I changed the shock to a rock shox and a lighter spring.. playing with spring rates as the stock spring was a bit stiff.. anyway... I have not changed the wheel yet, it's an 8" puematic tire on a matco fork. It does pretty well, though in soft / dry sand like we had there, it definitely is digging a trench. I would really like to go a little larger... 10", treadless.. and a bit wider would be perfect I think... I can't quite see spending the money on the baby bushwheel, so I'm kind of still looking around. May have to build the fork before it's over...
Hey I’ve always liked the Rans 7 but how did the Rans 21 preform?
very well... I can take him on TO roll and landing roll, but not by much... and his is quite a bit faster (25mph maybe more?) Have a plan in the words that will give me more power, but still nothing I can do that will touch his cruise speeds! the 21 is a well rounded machine...
ya know, if you grab a notch of flaps shortly after the tail comes up, you can get off the ground a little sooner, thats an old Alaskan supercub technique
Monster's Inc. i grab full flaps on almost every take off, and it does help to pop it off sooner... (full on this, as the flaps aren’t real big, so full doesn’t hinder). Flaps are under your left leg in a 7, not up to the left (where they should be), but im used to it...
@@GravityKnightFlying Oh sorry, it's hard to see with the camera angle you're using.
I thought there would be more pertaining to the Rans S-21.
me too.. but only so much time in the day
Is your old airplane at the Nampa Airport?
Last I heard it was actually real close by here in Colorado still.....
OK...one here in Nampa looks just like yours.
I want to get my PPL when I turn 15 and we’re I might be having it they cost on a average of £9,000 I would love to know from a pilot if this is a good price to get a PPL.
Hi Lucas... I want to say that is in the ballpark of the going rate these days? Although I haven't checked in a lot of years. It's definitely expensive no matter what.. most places let you pay as you go of course... which can be good money wise from month to month.. but sometimes you will end up spending more in the long run if you stretch it way out. I had parted out a project car and was lucky enough to have the money to get my license in 2 months or so.. flying a lot like that in a short period of time eliminates the re-learning that takes place when you have a lot of downtime in between lessons. Just some things to think about. But even if you can afford only to take a lesson here and there, you are still getting closer to that goal every time, and it's an awesome goal to have! Becoming a pilot is probably the thing I'm most proud of accomplishing in my life. -Todd
I have no idea what it cost in the UK, but that sounds a bit high for the US. £9000 pounds is nearly $11,000 dollars at current exchange. The number I hear kicked around the local flight school is more like $6500. It also depends a bit on what aircraft you train in. A well loved old Cessna 150 rents for a lot less than a late model 172 with a glass panel.
All flying related things are more expensive in Europe, but £9,000 is too much for getting a PPL in the USA.
So, come to the US and get your ticket here!
Thank you with the help I will look into it
Thanks a lot for the help GravityKnightFlying
The flight schools in my area (Washington state Puget Sound/Seattle/North Everett area) range from $5,000 to $8,000, which is about £4,100 to £6,600 in the UK. £9,000 which translates to $11,000 here in the US, is incredibly expensive for a PPL. I can't believe how expensive it is to fly in Europe. The US really is the safe haven of recreational GA flying. If able, and the total trip costs + getting your PPL are less then if you were to do it in the UK, you should come to the US for a short stay to get your PPL here (assuming it counts in the UK).
I'm getting ready to call Rans and get a S7 coming my way, I was considering the 160hp UL for a engine. I've looked at all the engine options and I had Rotax in the past but I think I'm ready for a change and thought I would have a Viking or UL. Not sure how much I would need the Turbocharged version of any of these here in Michigan. Your input would be to turbocharge were your at I know but what are your thoughts on some of the other engine options?? You had too much fun on this trip, every aviators dream is going camping with the aircraft even some of us do it on floats.
Being turbocharged does add some complexity, and some pain in the a$$ no doubt about it. I love turbocharges, have always had turbo'd projects of all kinds... so they have a special place with me.. but if you don't have a weird draw to them like me, and are not at high altitude.. I would steer clear and save yourself some hassle! Maybe consider the Yamaha? Even non turbo'd, you can get 150-160hp in a light engine package. Weight is really key, and 7's don't like too much weight up front (becomes very hard to 3 point without weight in the back to offset it). Just a thought anyway. If I could do it all over again, I'd probably to a APEX (EPEX actually - turbo'd Edge version). Thanks for the msg Keith
Curious about the guy in the bib overhauls....he looks tall, and I was wondering what he Flys. Im 6'4"
He is a pilot, but was riding with the guy in the Orange RANS S-21. The 21 is pretty roomy. I believe he is building a 21... I think he is 6'5" at least. I'm 6'4" 250lbs, I had to modify my seat to go back a little further in the S7, but now I fit well! RANS planes usually accommodate larger pilots better than a lot of the other 2 seat planes out there from what I've seen.. part of what got me interested initially.
@@GravityKnightFlying Saweet..... thanks for that info! Also thanks for taking us along.. And keep up the good work!
Wow, that was an excellent video! Similar to sandbars in my area of OK (see my vids). You did some great editing , appreciate the effort, I know it is not easy to do.😉.
Where in Arkansas? River?
So now that you have a few hours on the fuel injection,have you noticed any improvement in fuel consumption?
yes.. Didn't really see much at first.. but after leaning it out of course I saw some.. but also there was another step to really dial in some efficiency... by using those tables in the tune I found that allow some boost by throttle position - this helped quite a bit. Basically, you are setting up the tune to allow higher throttle positions, while commanding less boost... I spent some time testing this in the air... as I did this, I was seeing the same RPM with less manifold pressure... because the throttle plate is opened further, but the servo is not pulling the wastegate as tight, it's more efficient than it is to have the throttle closed down, while working the turbo harder to get enough manifold pressure past a mostly closed off throttle plate. Made a fair difference. I don't have any actual fuel burn data yet.. and at some point I will.. plane is down right now, motor is out.... video on what happened coming out pretty soon.. Big build in progress.....wasn't planned :( but it will be ready to make some real power after this.
GravityKnightFlying ouch,well probably had to be done sooner or later,lol,so does the computer learn where to put the perimeters according to what position the throttle is in for different flying or is it a learning system,as some after market fuel injection systems are?
@@wreckum56 you set the "duty cycle" of the servo essentially, but there is a dynamic portion of the boost control. So it has room to pull it back when you limit via throttle position. There are requested boost target tables, but you use the duty cycle map to get it close... I haven't figured out how much control it has dynamically, but there is a range it can sway it to try and meet the target or target (after throttle position commanded boost reduction). It seems to bet better the more I fine tune and tweak it.. although it's not perfect in my opinion. But certainly usable!
Where exactly were You?
crash helmet might become handy doing this kind of flying. Just saying!
I've got to stop watching these. It's like an alcoholic at a wine tasting party, or a eunuch at an orgy! Dammit, I want to get back in the air! Soon. I'm about to pull the trigger on an S7 kit.
hell yea man!!! as they say, you can sleep in your plane, but you can't fly your house around!!! haha... hey my motor is actually out of the plane right now.. I'll be putting up a vid on that.. oil leak was lot bigger issue than I thought on the sand bar 😱 as I started considering all sorts of ways to come up with enough money to fix it right... I realized I might just be addicted to flying (but I think I'm ok with that lol)....
With so many “look at my plane skimming on the water “ or “ landing on that hill” videos , I think , for a change, a video of a taildragger executing a proper landing at a class D airport would become an instant hit ...
It was San Francisco International, and a 1954 Cessna 170B, in December of 1991.
It was a sweet landing. Sorry you weren't there to see it.