Right. Bringing people's attention to a card being good (or at least acceptable) value now may be the encouragement they need to pull the trigger, which in turn can show these companies that if they don't get greedy, they'll sell more cards.
I'm a bit torn by the idea honestly. It's really nice to see how newcomers (which they're not) evolve, and being able to see what has been fixed or if consumption issues remain is important for the consummer... But I also fear that at their level of incompetence AMD sees this and think "oh it's now ok to fuck up our launches, if we overprice our cards we'll have a second go in a few months"
The day one reviews should point a price where the product gains good value. As day one review stated $700, where the xt model becomes a really good gpu I would pay 4300 pln for xtx and 3500 for xt which transfers to $854 and $694 so the author is right about the gpu value I'll probably wait for next gen and buy a gpu when I have a 4k monitor
@@vuri3798 Fair point. I suspect these companies are already comfortable with milking day one overpriced sales as much as they can first and then make them 'reasonable' down the line.
Great re-review! I got my 7900XT from XFX when it briefly dropped to $700 on Amazon. Upgrading from the 5700XT, so in that context a solid upgrade value.
I’ve been seeing a bunch of third party xtx cards around 1k even. Some were as high as 1,200. I think it’s interesting how most partner models can be found for just around msrp
Its worth adding that right now if you buy a 7900XT you also get a copy of Starfield Premium edition. So if you intended to buy Starfield its a nice little bonus for free, or bundled as part of that price depending on your view.
Or, as in the words of GN Steve: "So that you can enjoy Starfield a couple of months after release, once they've fixed all the bugs and improved the optimisation." (Paraphrasing)
I just got an XFX Merc 310 for $750 a few weeks ago and I've been very happy. I was worried to move away from NVIDIA, but it was definitely the right call. Looking forward to more driver refinement!
Unless you're obsessed with ray tracing there's almost no difference. Yes, DLSS looks better but you'd be hard pressed to spot a difference to FSR when actually gaming and the Adrenalin software is just way better than Nvidia's control panel.
XFX have been supplying people with RDNA3 far more than anyone else has because their prices are actually substantially lower. They have a good product too.
After finally getting a 3080 10G card from EVGA after being in their queue for what seemed like years (it was), I was happy, although ignorant of the VRAM limitations at the time. After much thought, watching as many videos as possible on comparisons, and remarkable self-restraint, I started seriously considering an AMD based card over an NVIDIA. The only time in my PC gaming years that I've purchased an AMD based card was in the early 2000's, when I bought an ATI card at a local Best Buy, which I returned for an Nvidia based card due to driver issues with running Blade of Darkness. So, last week I saw that AMD was including Starfield with the purchase of certain CPU's and GPU's, and that at my local Micro Center they had the Powercolor 7900 XT Hellhound on sale with Starfield for $699 USD... self-restraint be damned! I ended up upgrading my CPU from a 12600K to a 13700K (swap out on my existing LGA 1700 based board), from the RTX 3080 - 10G to the RX 7900 XT - 20G card, and added a DeepCool LT720 cooler for the CPU, with a copy of the premium version of Starfield for slightly more than the cost of an RTX 4080. I've had no issues with Adrenaline, in truth I prefer it over Nvidia Experience (bleh), have a considerable uplift across the board for gaming at 1440p on my current monitor, and with the extra cushion of 20G of VRAM, I feel better knowing I won't have problems due to lack of it, at least for a while. Thank you guys so much for what you do, I appreciate your candor and your wealth of expertise and content you put out regularly, it really helps consumers like myself.
Hell yeah, welcome to the light side! :D (people that buy the best product that is, not AMD fanboys xD) AMDs drivers and interface have improved a TON over the the last 3 years (and that was urgently needed). The integrated driver interface is really nice imo, always hated nvdia experience.
I agree that adrenaline is a better experience for the user. Nvidia's software is, in my opinion, more like bloatware that doesn't work most of the time. I'm also looking at AMD, likely an XTX, because while the performance per dollar isn't quite as fabulous as some cards, the 24GB of VRAM really comforts my concern of future gaming titles fully saturating my VRAM and becoming unplayable. I don't use frame generation or RT, so it seems like the perfect choice. I also like to do a little bit of productivity work here and there, which that VRAM does come in handy for. Ultimately, I don't think that any mid-high tier cards should have less than 16GB today, and ideally, 20GB+.
@@chunk3875 For your needs, perhaps. We can't know what needs any individual has without living their life. Perhaps it's their hobby. Do you spend needlessly on things that you enjoy?
I bought a 6950XT for my new rig that I made 2 months ago as I still think this is the best value for money and likely best longevity available to me. I wish I could have gone for the 7900XT/XTX but the value wasn't there for me.
The new cards have an AI accelerator engine. AMD may possibly use it for upscaling like DLSS and make an hybrid upscaler like XESS. We also have no idea how FSR3 will work with frame gen, maybe they will have to use AI for that, locking the feature to RX 7000 and above. Sometimes, there's no way, you have to lock features because of hardware. Nvidia got some flack but now people are shiting on FSR for the lower quality and maybe the consummers make AMD change its mind about that.
This is a fantastic thing you're doing, taking the time to re-review a card fully to properly evaluate it. If only AMD could pull head out of ass and set MSRP correctly from day one
Bought a 6800XT during the drought last year for a great price. Have been very impressed. No driver issues, excellent performance. AMD has a great product lately, they need to get their act together! The competition is good for the market.
Yeh, the 6000 series was really quite nice, and its good too see more and more people realize it. Got myself the same GPU recently (especially for VR). Nvidia can make good stuff, but they really need competition to get them back to reality. And AMD needs to be less stupid and greedy, they cant afford that.
The AMD driver experience is so exaggerated in problems compared to the dreaded GeForce experience, and their stupid accounts. It's almost as if Nvidia drivers are perfect you'd think.
"Great price" "Very impressed" No driver issues" "Excellent performance" "Great product" "They need to get their act together" One of these things is not like other... one of these things just doesn't belong here!
Great content as always Steve! It would be great if you'd include a few words about the specific partner models you tested, what you liked, what you didn't like, etc.
I was fortunate to be looking into buying a GPU around the time that pricing for this card went down. I got the Sapphire Pulse RX 7900XT when it was $720. I think it sold out within a couple hours and when it came back in stock it was up to $750. I was seriously considering getting a 6800XT if I couldn't get the 7900XT under 800. So far I'm super happy with it. The pulse is actually a lot quieter than the power color 5700XT it replaced
At most, the 7900XT should have been NO MORE THAN $800 at launch (even though this price was slightly too much). However, $900 was ridiculous given the issues with it. Now, this would be a great time for AMD to just slash them all to $700-$750, leaving the XTX to be slashed to $850-$900. Anyway, interesting re-review
Not exactly. The RTX 2080 was at 699, the 3080 was at 699 so the 4080 should have been at 699. Considering that the cheaper radeon equivalent that lacks DLSS and faster ray tracing (7900 XTX) should have been at no more than 600-650$. This means the 7900 XT at 800$ is waay overpriced. That should have been at 500$ no more. Nvidia and AMD have successfully planted acceptance to higher prices in the consumer space considering what you both say about it.
I ordered a 7800xt, but after this video I decided to check prices on the 7900xt. I ended up cancelling my order in favor of a Sapphire Pulse 7900xt with a $20 coupon from Amazon for $729 (Currently $750 - $20 coupon)! Thank you so much for these thoughtful awesome videos. You guys truly rock and I learned a lot.
I've picked a powercolor reference model up last week. 800€ with taxes in the EU. Would have been great for 700-ish €, but so far I'm really happy with it.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j1000€ for a GPU lmao way too expensive, a lot of these GPU's still have crazy prices just like during the crypto boom. It's ridiculous in all honesty.
@@NostalgicMem0ries it is still good to see a comparison with not only (now) lower performing cards, its good to see which cards it falls between in performance (and fps/dollar)
100% and remember $1099 includes our GST where as the uS pricing doesn’t. So deduct sales tax from our bottom price and it’s $1000 to compare in USD. That’s well under $700 USD at the bottom end
If you adjust for inflation, which is about 20% for the US dollar, that's actually below the 650 USD launch price of the 6800 XT in "2020 dollars", which was considered a relatively good value at the time (not that very many people were ever actually able to find it at that price when it first launched).
It's nice that we saw it get down to $710 recently. Around that price it's a good option for high-end 1440p and 4K if you also want the AV1 encoder and 20gb of vram, without a gimped memory bus, plus Starfield is bundled with it ATM. If you plan to play on max settings at 4K this is a no-brainer over the 4070Ti esp when you're not using super-sampling. I also appreciate these re-reviews to see what has improved since launch. Thanks gents!
Bought this card 4 months ago to replace my 6700 xt and it was such a good decision. Nvidia is no option for me with their anti consumer, anti open source and proprietary bs and so its awesome to see AMD getting it right :)
@@Zombie101 That’s just not true, if you check the 15 game average frame rate graph at 1440p in this video, the 6700XT is averaging 74 frames while the 7900XT is averaging 139. That’s a 1.88x, nearly double, increase in performance. The numbers speak for themselves. If you don’t care about gaming past 60fps, I can see why you would stick to a 6700XT, but to say “The 7900XT is only better at 4k” is straight up false
Was looking last week to upgrade my 3060ti. Amazon Prime day kicked off and I hoped to pick up a 4070ti super. It never dropped below $750. So, I picked up an ASRock phantom Rx 7900 XT for $600. I'm happy.
I ended up picking up a 7900 XTX when a promo code and discount was running a couple weeks back. Ended up getting the card for $830. Which was killer deal on my end since it was a massive upgrade from the GTX 1070 I was on.
Bro on cost per frame the other cards arent calibrated correctly. For instance in the 1440p part the rx 6600 xt is set at 270 msrp whilst the rx 6650 xt is set at 240 msrp which makes no sense. Additionally eberyone knows the rx 6950 xt isnt 1100 dollars in the 1080p segment of cost per frame, infact in 1440p part it changes to 640 dollars. Why is it inconsistent and incorrect?
Nice! Thanks for this. Was just thinking yesterday that it would be cool to have a fresh take on this card with the latest drivers and pricing from HUB. Flipped on Yutube this morning and here it is. Great job here Steve. At $750 - $769 it truely is the uplift/price successor to the 6800XT finally. 4GB more VRAM, AV1 and 45% faster in RT titles while pulling the same power? Imagine if this has been $769.99 MSRP and called 7800XT 6 months ago? They would have flown off the shelves.
Managed to get one a couple months ago open box from Newegg for $699. I was a little worried because it was an open box reference model, but it's actually been really good with respectable UV/OC numbers. Temperature and coil whine were my biggest concerns, but the coil whine went away after a week or so of testing and stress tests would bring the VRAM temps to around 82°C max. It's much lower during gaming, so I'm a happy camper.
Prices were down in Europe too, for a short time. I bought a Sapphire Pulse 7900 XT the moment it dropped below 800 euros to replace my aging 5700 XT (also a Sapphire Pulse model). I believe this will be the lowest price point we get till Black Friday / Christmas. It's a good product, the pricing just ruined it. The moment it drops to acceptable prices it flies of the shelves, like we seen over here. Very happy with the Sapphire so far. It's very quiet with good temps while maintaining good speeds. Just needs a bit of an undervolt to keep the power draw in check.
Exactly, I bought it as well from Megekko when it was at 799 Euro (incl taxes) for a few days. Very happy with it overall and massive improvement coming from an RX580! 🙂
At least that's a worthy upgrade, there's really no merit at all to upgrading from the same tier RDNA 2 GPU though... Selling RDNA 3 at the MSRP is a straight ripoff much like Ada Lovelace.
Got the 4070 Ti and I'd easily pay €50 or €100 extra for frame generation and the ray tracing capabilities. It can play path traced Cyberpunk 2077 @ 1440p all settings maxed out and consistently gets 75+ frames. The game looks incredible and plays completely smooth. Can't do that on the 7900 XT. If you don't care about games like that or don't plan to upgrade your card in the next 5 years the extra VRAM may make the Radeon a better buy but for me it makes a lot of sense. Not a mad purchase at all.
Yeah Steve is very fanboish for calling people mad for paying 15% premium to get a 4070 Ti that beats 7900 XT by around 12% in RT games, and totally mops the living the crap out of it when FG gets involved. You get lower power consumption as bonus and 4070 Ti doesn't run out of VRAM even at native ultra 4K in latest games, so the VRAM argument is null and void.
here, in the middle of europe, the 7900xt is still at around 900 euros while the 6950xt can be bought for around 650 to 700 euros (keep in mind, those are prices with tax included already).
If you can find the 6800 XT for about 100 Euro less, I firmly believe that's a better deal than the 6950 XT. The performance really is quite close. The 6800 XT is a lot closer in performance to the 6950 XT than it is to the 6800, but the 6950 XT is definitely still not a bad value at that price either, and definitely better than a 900 Euro 7900 XT.
This would be great if the MSRP reductions were actually reflected in some european markets, the 7900XT is going for almost the same as a 4080 (1000-1300€ Range) which is ridiculous..
I switched to a 7900XT 2 weeks ago, following the drop in price. At approximately the same price/frame as the 6950XT, the higher efficiency and bigger VRAM made this the better choice long term, especially when taking higher electricity prices here in germany into account over a few years. The 4070Ti was completely out of the question, as I won't spend that amount of money on a product that might be limited by its limited amount of VRAM before its performance would be a limiting factor (as seen in the 3070 series).
@@onyachamp Only undervolted to 1025mV and stuck with stock speed/power. Completely sufficient currently. Might change this later in its life. Using less power at 144Hz cap than I did with my 180W 1070 Ti. Love how easy the overclocking options are through Adrenaline and how resilient the driver is to crashes.
@@Xzavn Nice Undervolt, and a great choice to max out a 144hz monitor. Can't go wrong with a discounted 7900xt, and it was the no-brainer choice over the 12gb vram 4070ti that costs more and performs worse to boot...
Interesting re-review, now considering to buy one .. but did you have any experience with "coil whine" noises on these cards? Which model would you prefer regarding quiet operation ?
I just purchased a return item 7900xt for $625 and the Starfield Premium it comes with would cost another $100 which I was planning on buying. So $525 for the card makes it the best cost per frame you could get. Granted I don't believe anyone else will be able to get that price, but MicroCenter did have them listed for $699.99 this past weekend along with a game deal for those who are planning to buy anyways.
considering i got my 7900xt for $600 , it has been a massive upgrade from my 3080 , also i sold my 3080 for 500 , so i really only ended up paying 100 dollars when everything was said and done it has been great
Micro-center still has open-box 7900xt going for 569 usd (here in USA of course), i picked one up myself the other day. It's nice to have that little bit extra vram at this price. Also i'm coming from a 3070ti, and this thing destroys it!
I was a bit concerned about moving away from Nvidia when i bought my 7900xt, but i couldn't be happier with my choice, i upgraded my AM4 platform with it and a 5800X3D. And i was surprised by the performance for the money, the 20GB VRAM buffer and the great user friendly software utilities. It might chug power a little bit but im so glad i chose it over the 4070ti
Btw if you wanna lower power requirements, those AMD GPUs tend be quite high tacted and can be downclocked a bunch with little loss. Its very easy to lower max hz and power limit over the driver interface. Also makes the card run cooler, if your fans get a bit loud. Only annoying thing is that any crash, hard reboot and update will rest the under/overclocking settings. I really want AMD to fix that.
A great re-review. we must also mention that with this and all amd cards you won't need to change your PSU for the 12 pin new ones needed by nvidia. i got the 7800x3d and the 7900xt on my 8,5 year old evga g2 750 watt psu and the pc is rocking at 2K in all modern games without any issue.
Got myself a Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XT just a few days ago. Really beautiful design and RGB lighting, feels very well made, delivers excellent performance paired with my 5800x3d and the temperatures are very good thanks to its massive cooler which is the same as the XTX model. I might have paid too much for it (900€/960$), but considering I upgraded from a GTX 1050 ti, it was worth it for me.
@@madhaze0126 Don't care much for ray tracing, but from what I've seen in benchmark videos, it's comparable to a 3080. The only game I tried to play with RT ON was cyberpunk and I get around 45-50 fps in 1080p with ultra graphics and RT set to max, but I prefer playing without RT for better framerate.
I'm a graphics snob , I would like to experience raytracing in Cyberpunk at 1440p so it doesn't look like AMD have a solution for me right now. Upgrading next year fingers crossed , see what happens . Thanks for your reply.
@@madhaze0126 Yeah, I know what you mean. Personally I would have preferred a 4070 ti, but I was worried the 12 gb vram wouldn't last me long enough, considering how unoptimized games tend to be nowadays. So I decided to buy the 7900 XT, keep it for 3-4 years and in the meantime save money to buy an RTX 6090, or whatever the nvidia flagship will be called then.
Good review, 1 thing i will say, at the end when your talking about price to performance, the 6950xt is not $1100 in the uk, its priced at £580-£600, so with that in mind the 6950xt is still better value for money being £4.71 per frame compared to the 7900xt being £5.84 which again is uk pricing. Nice to see a re review though
I got one RX7900XT for 3440x1440 a few months ago, for 800$. It's perfect card for this resolution, and after good UV it takes 240-260W in games. So, for it's price, perfect choice.
@@Gabi-dt7jn Ryzen 5800x3d. Upgraded from RTX3060ti. But now I have RTX4060 which I bought yesterday. My RX7900XT had issue with hotspot up to 110°C, I sent it to warranty at 2nd January 2024 and reseller send me mail after month with info about money refund. They still don't give me my money back so I bought rtx4060. Right now, on 3440x1440 and low-high(depends on game) settings, 4060 is enough for me. Of course it will be my gpu for maybe a year, and I want to buy new RDNA4 or new RTX5xxx when it's release. So, using RX7900XT was a bad experience for me after few months
@@Gabi-dt7jn 5800x3d and RTX3060ti>RX7900XT>RTX4060 because my RX7900XT had high hotspot issue's and never come back from warranty. I'm still waiting for my money back, so I bought rtx4060 yesterday. It will be my gpu for next year and then I go to RDNA4 or RTX5xxx
even with this, this gpu still doesn't make sense atleast from where i am and how gpu prices are, 4070 ti goes around 900 usd while this is priced at 1,260 usd..crazy
I have one as well in an SFF case. High performance, low temps, great card. Also something Hardware Unboxed always fail to mention in these benchmarks is SAM if you have an AMD Processor as well.
Just got one from microcenter last week for $630 as well, and I too upgraded from the 3070. It is wonderful not getting bottlenecked by the 8gb of VRAM on the 3070.
I got a PowerColor 7900 XT as well. I do find these reviews interesting in that AMD is seeing their second level card struggling to match the 4070 ti in all games. Price to performance is good, but they leave market share on the table by not having a top performance card. 7900 XTX is a 4080 competitor, 7900 XT is a 4070 competitor, nothing to even think about competing with the 4090.
Well, the 4070ti has no value. 800€+ for a card that will be outdated in only 2 years due to the low VRAM is insane. Such a horrible investment..And u cant even save money for saving power cause 2 years is just too short for the difference. Such a premium price for a product that doesnt last long at all without lowering graphics is a joke tbh. It only makes sense if your old GPU died and I have to use the the exact software the 4070 offers for work. Very niche and still bad scenario..
Good insight. I remember the conclusion on your previous 7900 XT review, but I think you are absolutely right about where they should have priced this thing day 1. When I saw the Powercolor Hellhound go on sale at MicroCenter for $699, bought it immediately and picked it up the next day. I could not get happy with that card.. inconsistent frame rates, horrible coil squeal (not just a whine, it went from a constant growl to a squeal when frame rates picked up) and it reported 92 watts board power at idle with two monitors connected. I returned it a week later, intending to settle for an Nvidia 4070 Ti. I just couldn't make myself buy an $800 card with 12 GB of memory though, so when the Sapphire Pulse went to $720 on Newegg I decided to give it one more try. By then the 23.7.1 driver was out and the experience was night and day. Absolute max frame rates from the Pulse are slightly below what I could get from the HellHound, but I get no stutters, no noise and no lag, although the idle power with two monitors connected is still over 80 watts. I don't know if it was the drivers or just a poor copy of the HellHound, but the Pulse is a much better experience.
Great review idea and very well executed as per usual, good job! One question though: for the rest of the GPU's did you also use the latest drivers? (that was not very clear to me in the methodology section)
Even at $750 the 7900XT is barely competitive with Nvidia's $800 4070ti, and people consider the 4070ti a ripoff. But of course the community is going to meatshield for AMD.
Yes the 16GB buffer of the 6800XT drew me to that card instead of the 4070. In my opinion there is only one real example of raytracing that makes an actual noteworthy visual upgrade and that is RT Overdrive in Cyberpunk. It looks amazing. Sadly at the pricepoint I was looking at, both the 4070 and the 6800XT aren't really capable of driving that without seriously compromising visual clarity due to aggressive upscaling. And frame generation doesn't increase fps, so even if it bumps the 4070 from 30 to 50 fps (so playable territory), you're still having 30fps-like input delay (not playable imho). The extra texture settings I can enable 3 years down the line will severely outweigh the slightly more accurate shadows the RTX 4070 can draw with RT. The 6800XT will age better, of that there is absolutely no doubt. Same with this card.
Unfortunately, here in Hungary the cheapest 7900XT, which is the Sapphire Pulse is around 950 USD. While the cheapest available 6950XT is the Merc 319 for 750 USD.
Same channel u are commenting right now on in recent QA said that 12gb vram is prolly fine for few years, in that time card will become obsolete anyway. Imo DLSS, no VR issues, no idle power draw bug is worth on Nvidia.
@@keldon1137 For 1080p maybe and in general - its not like games dont need more vram, Developers try their hardest to still optimize for 8 gig cards. once 12 gig becomes the standard (which may be sooner than later concerning the low sell numbers on 7600 and 4060) you wont even be able to play 1080p ultra with 12 gigs while in raw rasterization power you could have used that card for way longer. graphics card generations are getting pulled longer, im still on a 6 year old 1080ti with 11 gigs and am still fine on nearly every game 1080p ultra - but next time i upgrade definitely to 1440p and 16 gig plus
@@keldon1137idle power issues are largely resolved for single monitors now and the same issue exists for Nvidia with multi-monitor setups. I would agree DLSS is a great technology, but VR is a neiche. VRAM difference is substantial at 3440x1440p and 4K and will be an issue before these cards are obsolete… especially the memory bus. Wait and see. 18m from now.
@@keldon1137 The VR space is still a niche sector in the gaming market by all accounts. 12GB isn't sufficient for VR either if we're really digging into it. With how today's games are and how resource heavy AAA games are (particularly unoptimized console ports and UE 5 titles being phased in), you'll be turning down settings 1-2 years into the card's lifecycle, which imo is a terrible feeling. Both cards are comparable. RT is objectively better with the 4070 Ti, but it's not horrible on the 7900 XT. You'll have to use DLSS/FSR either way to keep it useable. As far as power idle issues, it can happen with any card and can usually be fixed with tweaking settings in the software; that's to also say revisions have already been released from what I've read. You'd honestly have to have more incentive (and hyper specific use cases) outside gaming where GeForce cards are absolutely vital to go forward with Nvidia in the future if they're just going to keep gimping the cards out the gate with higher-than-life prices. I have a 3080 10GB and unless Nvidia can push out a crazy 80 Class card next gen with 20-24GB of GDDR7 (cause G6X runs hot as shit) at a reasonable price, I'll just go for RDNA 4 or maybe Intel if Battlemage is up to snuff. I can live without nvenc/cuda for my task.
@@keldon1137the difference is 7900xt won't be obsolete while 4070ti will be due to VRAM. Hence resale value of 7900xt will also be better. Not to mention at 4k 12gb is already a problem. VR problem is fixed. Idle power problem is fixed for some. It amazes me how people find some irrelevant reasons to justify their Nvidia bias. You're just brainwashed you don't need to cope with it, it is what it is.
One nice sort of niche place that the 7900XT and XTX do well in is if you enjoy gaming, but you also occasionally do 3D video rendering or any other tasks that use massive amounts of VRAM. Nvidia's cards, with the ludicrously expensive 4090 as the exception, are lacking the same gigantic 20GB+ VRAM buffers. Anybody looking for a gaming card that can still do some video production work would benefit greatly from these two cards, in my opinion. They'll also age considerably better since one of the most limiting factors in today's cards is insufficient VRAM being fully saturated with high-resolution textures. Part of me hopes that the 7700 and 7800 also have large VRAM buffers because, current performance aside, that gives me a little peace of mind for the future. I'd like to see a minimum of 16GB VRAM on the 7700/7800, though that is probably wishful thinking.
How is $750 a good deal?? Why are people still smoking the crack of high prices? Theres literally NO DEMAND for graphics cards right now and were excited about a 2 year old card being “discounted” to $750 dollars???
I got a 7900xtx Sapphire Nitro 2 months ago. I love it! If you like to undervolt and overclock, AMD software makes it easy to do! Had Nvidia cards before this and it's safe to say I won't be going back to team green!
I own a gaming cafe, I ve RTX cards as well as AMD cards and I don't run games at 4K but 1440p for sure and at 1440p, AMD cards. Make less sense, specially RT is bull shit for these cards. Many say RT and DLSS is not a big thing but as much as I needed to say the same, ny customers love to play games with RT and DLSS, for eg Witcher 3, RT + DLSS FG gives easy 100 fps average with 12700k+4070Ti. Same setting on 6900XT phantom+ 5800x gave me a shocking 65 fps average. I also swapped 6900xt with the above reviewed 7900xt which I bought for 900 USD and it gave just 77 fps average which was super noticeable. So I don't understand why Hwunboxed skipped RT in this video. With RT on the expensive 4070 Ti with just 12 GB even today punches the 7900xt right on its nose
@@1989rs500 there is just a problem with your claim. first of all witcher and cyber punk use the same engine and the entire games are not optimized to run on amd hardware at all ( SMT fix for ryzen cpu´s for example) and even then, nvidia only pushes ahead in this heavy RT implemented games wich most of them are nvidia sponsored. in all other cases they are very similar in performance. so would it make sense to call the 4070ti a better card if its overall slower and more expensive, but faster in 4-5 titles with heavy RT. absolutly not. and sorry to say that, if you buy a 800$ 4070ti and play at reasonable 1440p and you allready have to use DLSS to get good FPS, then there is something wrong. just look at 30 series, everyone was claiming them to be "futureproof" because of DLSS and RT. now, one generation later you suffer allready from low performance in new games, new RT implementations make them as useless as the RX6000 series and to round things up, in new titles you cant even play at the same texture quality because you run out of vram and games have to drop them to prevent stutters...
GPU's are stilly expensive here in the UK still. your lookint at a minimum of £730 for the RX7900XT which is about $925 and for some reason the RX6900XT is still up at around £1100 in some cases.
That's because 6900xt is mostly just out of stock now in the UK. You also remember that all us price is before sales tax or the equivalent to ex vat. Figure in vat and it's basically the same price. The real reason that pricing in the UK feels so screwed is the drop in the value of the pound since brexit
I managed to get the 7900xt for £699 1/2 weeks ago. Came with premium code for Starfield worth £100 that I was going to get anyway. I essentially got it for £599 - Was a steal at that price
I do not regret upgrading my RTX2070 to a RX6950XT. I usually get the Nvidia '70 cards, and decided to go for "team red" this time around. _although I use Ryzen in most recent builds, I haven't had an AMD GPU since ATI had actual playing card size ones. (mainly for driver support reasons)_
Great review as always Steve! Hope to see more of this kind of revisit video in the future as you always benchmark stuffs fast. Ofc I've come to watch your video fast as well!
I just got my rx 7900xt with the starfield bundle after trying the RTX 4070, and the performance jump is differently worth the extra $180 I paid for it ( I originally got the rtx 4070 for $600, then the Rx 7900xt for $789). The Thing I didn't see coming was the Graphics Driver Issues. I've downloaded the lastest Drivers as of today, and even uninstalled and redownloaded them as well and still occasionally see a driver crash. It happens mainly while playing BG3 and Battlefield 2042. But at the cost its a bit disappointing to have to deal with this problem. With the 4070 I had absolutely no issues whatsoever out of the Box. If anyone has any advise on how to deal with the graphics issues please let me know.
I never had any driver issues with my 6900 XT. I always do clean Windows installs when I switch out a part, doesn't matter which part. A lot of people recommend DDU, but even then I still recommend clean Windows installs. That is the only way to guarantee a clean start.
@juan.v9952 For the raw performance the 7900xt was definitely better. Maybe read reviews on the 7900xt you're looking at first, personally I'd stay as far away from the XFX Merc models as it was nothing but problems for me. I ended up going with an MSI 7900xtx and have had no issues whatsoever I couldn't be happier. If you don't mind the potential gamble of a bad unit I would say giving the 7900xt a try is worth your time. the extra 8 gbs of VRam will last you a lot longer.
@@Fredtake Yea, the 20 GB of vram is more than enough for many years, it's definitely better than 12 with the 4070. What issues did the XFX cards give you? I've read that brand has noisy fans, and that they run hot.
@juan.v9952 So I didn't have any issues with noise or temps, the issues I was having were with the graphics drivers. While I was playing a handful of games (badurs gate 3, battlefield 2042, starfield, dying light 2) the drivers would randomly crash. I tried adjusting the clockspeeds by lowering the mhz it would run at (not too good with messing around with the settings), and still would have crashes occur around 1-3 hours of playing sometimes even after like 10-15 mins of starting. Just felt real frustrating with the price. It might have just been a bad unit but I wasn't feeling like getting another XFX and finding out.
It's a great card as the 4070Ti with just 12GB VRAM is not an option and 4080 is too expensive (especially considering you only get 16GB there), so the 7900XT is a great middle-ground. Got a new Taichi for 725€ from eBay and I'm very pleased with it (switched from 3080 10GB)
@@MrAtthedrivein925 that’s weird I’ve gotten a 61% higher time spy gfx score from the undervolted 7900xt compared to the undervolted 3080 10GB. 3080 score was average and 7900xt a little above average. Worth it to me! Stuttering in D4 is also completely gone even with ultra textures. It’s a great card.
Whats your opinion on the 6950 XT its gotten pretty low and performance seems to be pretty good for the price. Your price per frame chart could benefit from updated prices
Hi Steve would you consider doing the same re-review for the RTX 4080 as the price has dropped by $200 for some models hovering around $1000. Would be interesting to see how it stacks up. Thanks for all you do
Thanks for the followup, though you made your positions about the price clear the first time I would however like a power to frame graph, as its hard to keep track with all the higher end cards also drawing far more, and it would be nice to compare the upcoming rest of the 7xxx stack against both its past generation, and nvidias
Not really. Peoplr would still buy nvidia. Nvidia would adjust prices slightly and that's it. They have all of the features, the marketing and nvidia also appears as the better company, so, very few would change.
5x would make it higher than Nvidia which is unlikely, AMD is already bigger than Intel. I'd say 2-3x is reasonable IF gamers don't make dumb buying decisions which is impossible judging from 3050 outselling 6600 while being slower and more expensive. This retarded behaviour can be seen from years and years ago as well with 580 vs 1050ti. So even if they did price lower nothing will change, maybe a few % market share that's it
They'd have MUCH more favourable reviews, and they'd be selling better, but definitely wouldn't be making that big of a difference to their market cap. The 7900 XTX already sold really well at 1000 USD. Gaming cards are a relatively small portion of their overall business, and earn significantly lower margins than their server and enterprise products, which is where they're most competitive, and also where they're REALLY raking in the money right now.
I got mine several months ago for only $780 and I have been incredibly happy with it. It is the XFX Merc 310 and it has been at $780 ever since I picked mine up. That's way better than it's launch price.
Like others have suggested, it would have been more useful to have comparisons against similar tiered cards like the 6800 XT, 7900 XT, RTX 4080, and RTX 4090. Having entry/mid tier cards in the charts is not relevant to the customers in the market for high/ultra tier cards like the 7900 XT.
one thing tho, these prices are only discounted in the USA, rest of us are still paying 850 minimum and its a hard swallow when you could have the tensor cores of the 4070 TI
Considering the Starfield code currently included if you're interested in that game, that effectively knocks the price from £740 in the UK currently down to £690. Not a bad proposition?
@@mitsuhhthat would have shot themselves in the foot becuase of 6900xts and 6950xts at 600 dollars. They were never going to realease them at that price.
I recently picked up a Hellhound 7900XT at Micro Center open box for like $650? It has fairly loud coil whine over 400 FPS, but with a quick setting to limit it to 240 or lower, it's pretty amazing value.
AMD: Never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity 👌 The original price of the 7900XT has ruined the pricing of their entire stack below it. Genius
Worth noting that some these gains could also be attributed to optimisations to the games that have received updates over time since the initial driver.
Seen some 7900XTX in the 700s on Amazon. Copped a 7900XTX Red Devil for mid 700 and some change, not sure if a deal, just gonna test and probably return.
I would like to have heard you speak about any driver issues that you may have seen on the original review & if they have been cleared up. Also, any thoughts on stability improvement in general. Thank you for the content.
Re reviews are such a great idea prices and drivers change so can make some reviews out of date
Right. Bringing people's attention to a card being good (or at least acceptable) value now may be the encouragement they need to pull the trigger, which in turn can show these companies that if they don't get greedy, they'll sell more cards.
Agreed
I'm a bit torn by the idea honestly. It's really nice to see how newcomers (which they're not) evolve, and being able to see what has been fixed or if consumption issues remain is important for the consummer... But I also fear that at their level of incompetence AMD sees this and think "oh it's now ok to fuck up our launches, if we overprice our cards we'll have a second go in a few months"
The day one reviews should point a price where the product gains good value. As day one review stated $700, where the xt model becomes a really good gpu
I would pay 4300 pln for xtx and 3500 for xt which transfers to $854 and $694 so the author is right about the gpu value
I'll probably wait for next gen and buy a gpu when I have a 4k monitor
@@vuri3798 Fair point. I suspect these companies are already comfortable with milking day one overpriced sales as much as they can first and then make them 'reasonable' down the line.
Great re-review! I got my 7900XT from XFX when it briefly dropped to $700 on Amazon. Upgrading from the 5700XT, so in that context a solid upgrade value.
Same here! gonna install it this weekend
When did it drop to that
Yeah that was great deal! Nice upgrade man 👍
Yep got a xfx one, upgrading from 2070s
One more for the XFX Merc 7900 XT club! I got it for £779, for the Black Edition in late March 2023.
Would love a re-review of the 7900 XTX as well!
6w idle on 4k 165Hz display!
Agreed! The GPU is more readily available at $900 and has dropped to the low $800’s
I’ve been seeing a bunch of third party xtx cards around 1k even. Some were as high as 1,200. I think it’s interesting how most partner models can be found for just around msrp
Unfortunately the price has barely changed in many regions…
Not worth it
Its worth adding that right now if you buy a 7900XT you also get a copy of Starfield Premium edition. So if you intended to buy Starfield its a nice little bonus for free, or bundled as part of that price depending on your view.
Rather have $50-$100 off the card than a free game tbh that I will never buy.
Even if you get an RX 6600 you'll get a free copy of Starfield, it's crazy lol
@@rl53 Or a $100 Steam card so I can actually choose what to get (and wait for sales).
Or, as in the words of GN Steve: "So that you can enjoy Starfield a couple of months after release, once they've fixed all the bugs and improved the optimisation." (Paraphrasing)
@@Vasharan Yeah but it's a deal they have with Microsoft/Xbox, I mean they definitely need each other's help, Steam is doing fine on it's own lol.
I just got an XFX Merc 310 for $750 a few weeks ago and I've been very happy. I was worried to move away from NVIDIA, but it was definitely the right call. Looking forward to more driver refinement!
Unless you're obsessed with ray tracing there's almost no difference. Yes, DLSS looks better but you'd be hard pressed to spot a difference to FSR when actually gaming and the Adrenalin software is just way better than Nvidia's control panel.
XFX have been supplying people with RDNA3 far more than anyone else has because their prices are actually substantially lower. They have a good product too.
@@RafitoOoOFSR definitely looks worse than DLSS and native even at 1440p.
@@RafitoOoO And if u play on native settings without both dlss/fsr on 1440p do u think u can have still good fps?
@dreamseeker9207 yes, these cards can do 1440p native with good fps.
After finally getting a 3080 10G card from EVGA after being in their queue for what seemed like years (it was), I was happy, although ignorant of the VRAM limitations at the time. After much thought, watching as many videos as possible on comparisons, and remarkable self-restraint, I started seriously considering an AMD based card over an NVIDIA. The only time in my PC gaming years that I've purchased an AMD based card was in the early 2000's, when I bought an ATI card at a local Best Buy, which I returned for an Nvidia based card due to driver issues with running Blade of Darkness. So, last week I saw that AMD was including Starfield with the purchase of certain CPU's and GPU's, and that at my local Micro Center they had the Powercolor 7900 XT Hellhound on sale with Starfield for $699 USD... self-restraint be damned! I ended up upgrading my CPU from a 12600K to a 13700K (swap out on my existing LGA 1700 based board), from the RTX 3080 - 10G to the RX 7900 XT - 20G card, and added a DeepCool LT720 cooler for the CPU, with a copy of the premium version of Starfield for slightly more than the cost of an RTX 4080.
I've had no issues with Adrenaline, in truth I prefer it over Nvidia Experience (bleh), have a considerable uplift across the board for gaming at 1440p on my current monitor, and with the extra cushion of 20G of VRAM, I feel better knowing I won't have problems due to lack of it, at least for a while. Thank you guys so much for what you do, I appreciate your candor and your wealth of expertise and content you put out regularly, it really helps consumers like myself.
Hell yeah, welcome to the light side! :D (people that buy the best product that is, not AMD fanboys xD)
AMDs drivers and interface have improved a TON over the the last 3 years (and that was urgently needed). The integrated driver interface is really nice imo, always hated nvdia experience.
@@termitreter6545 Thanks, good to be here!
I agree that adrenaline is a better experience for the user. Nvidia's software is, in my opinion, more like bloatware that doesn't work most of the time. I'm also looking at AMD, likely an XTX, because while the performance per dollar isn't quite as fabulous as some cards, the 24GB of VRAM really comforts my concern of future gaming titles fully saturating my VRAM and becoming unplayable. I don't use frame generation or RT, so it seems like the perfect choice. I also like to do a little bit of productivity work here and there, which that VRAM does come in handy for. Ultimately, I don't think that any mid-high tier cards should have less than 16GB today, and ideally, 20GB+.
Both of those upgrades seem quite unnecessary
@@chunk3875 For your needs, perhaps. We can't know what needs any individual has without living their life. Perhaps it's their hobby. Do you spend needlessly on things that you enjoy?
I bought a 6950XT for my new rig that I made 2 months ago as I still think this is the best value for money and likely best longevity available to me. I wish I could have gone for the 7900XT/XTX but the value wasn't there for me.
6950xt is best value card grabbed mine for 510$ if u know how to oc u can get 7900xt levels of perf
Mate you have done well.
Happy dayz
@@reiudfgq3vrh34urJust got a 6950XT for £519 (Inc tax). Cheapest 7900XT was £735.
Yes me too. I wanted to buy rx 7900 xt sapphire nitro but 900 euros is too high and I ordered rx 6900 xt sapphire nitro for 670 euros new.
The new cards have an AI accelerator engine. AMD may possibly use it for upscaling like DLSS and make an hybrid upscaler like XESS. We also have no idea how FSR3 will work with frame gen, maybe they will have to use AI for that, locking the feature to RX 7000 and above.
Sometimes, there's no way, you have to lock features because of hardware. Nvidia got some flack but now people are shiting on FSR for the lower quality and maybe the consummers make AMD change its mind about that.
Re-reviews are such a good idea. Keep it up!
This is a fantastic thing you're doing, taking the time to re-review a card fully to properly evaluate it. If only AMD could pull head out of ass and set MSRP correctly from day one
The only time they didn't mess up the pricing was 6800 series.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 2013 R9 2xx pricing was good
@@mitsuhhI'd also say that the 5700 series was priced decently as well. But the R9 series was legendary.
the slap to Nvidia if AMD priced their cards correctly from day 1 would be massive
@@GOPACKERSJTcouldn’t agree more. I used my r9 gpu for 6 years and loved it. My little sister still uses that gpu right now.
Bought a 6800XT during the drought last year for a great price. Have been very impressed. No driver issues, excellent performance. AMD has a great product lately, they need to get their act together! The competition is good for the market.
Yeh, the 6000 series was really quite nice, and its good too see more and more people realize it. Got myself the same GPU recently (especially for VR).
Nvidia can make good stuff, but they really need competition to get them back to reality. And AMD needs to be less stupid and greedy, they cant afford that.
Whats its average power consumption?
@@66kaisersoza with undervolt i bet its like 200 watts max
The AMD driver experience is so exaggerated in problems compared to the dreaded GeForce experience, and their stupid accounts. It's almost as if Nvidia drivers are perfect you'd think.
"Great price"
"Very impressed"
No driver issues"
"Excellent performance"
"Great product"
"They need to get their act together"
One of these things is not like other... one of these things just doesn't belong here!
Great content as always Steve! It would be great if you'd include a few words about the specific partner models you tested, what you liked, what you didn't like, etc.
I was fortunate to be looking into buying a GPU around the time that pricing for this card went down. I got the Sapphire Pulse RX 7900XT when it was $720. I think it sold out within a couple hours and when it came back in stock it was up to $750.
I was seriously considering getting a 6800XT if I couldn't get the 7900XT under 800.
So far I'm super happy with it. The pulse is actually a lot quieter than the power color 5700XT it replaced
What kind of fps are you getting on 4K if you use that?
I’ve been considering switching back to 1440P though because 4K is just too small for me.
At most, the 7900XT should have been NO MORE THAN $800 at launch (even though this price was slightly too much). However, $900 was ridiculous given the issues with it. Now, this would be a great time for AMD to just slash them all to $700-$750, leaving the XTX to be slashed to $850-$900.
Anyway, interesting re-review
the 7900xt should not exist at all, it should be called 7800xt and should be 650-700$
Honestly this re-review really makes me think that it would be bad at $750. No Nvidia cards should be a better value than AMD.
Not exactly. The RTX 2080 was at 699, the 3080 was at 699 so the 4080 should have been at 699. Considering that the cheaper radeon equivalent that lacks DLSS and faster ray tracing (7900 XTX) should have been at no more than 600-650$. This means the 7900 XT at 800$ is waay overpriced. That should have been at 500$ no more. Nvidia and AMD have successfully planted acceptance to higher prices in the consumer space considering what you both say about it.
Fuck that bro. The 7900XT (7800XT) in reality. Should have been $599. With the 7900XT (7900XTX) should have been $799. Launch Price.
@@IslamGhonaym Yeah, discussing existing prices of existing products means you've been brainwashed. Duh!
I ordered a 7800xt, but after this video I decided to check prices on the 7900xt. I ended up cancelling my order in favor of a Sapphire Pulse 7900xt with a $20 coupon from Amazon for $729 (Currently $750 - $20 coupon)! Thank you so much for these thoughtful awesome videos. You guys truly rock and I learned a lot.
I've picked a powercolor reference model up last week. 800€ with taxes in the EU. Would have been great for 700-ish €, but so far I'm really happy with it.
probably german?
rest of europe its 900-1000€
:/
and then there's the fact that my countries currency is crap so its even more expensive for us
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j1000€ for a GPU lmao way too expensive, a lot of these GPU's still have crazy prices just like during the crypto boom. It's ridiculous in all honesty.
@hugopereira5640 the only good price is a 2nd hand 5700xt for 150€
Would have loved to see 4080 results in these charts for comparison. Thanks for the review!
4080 is still above 7900 xt even with driver updates only rx 7900 xtx beats 4080 is some games
@@NostalgicMem0ries it is still good to see a comparison with not only (now) lower performing cards, its good to see which cards it falls between in performance (and fps/dollar)
And the 6800 XT as well.
@@NostalgicMem0riesyea but still worth to compare when the 4080 is twice the price
@@NostalgicMem0ries You mean in most* games..
7900 XT has been cheaper than that in Australia twice that I've seen.
It's been $1099 here which is US$720.
100% and remember $1099 includes our GST where as the uS pricing doesn’t. So deduct sales tax from our bottom price and it’s $1000 to compare in USD. That’s well under $700 USD at the bottom end
@@inmypaants that's unAustralian, i can't remember the last time we didn't overpay for a AMD product here
If you adjust for inflation, which is about 20% for the US dollar, that's actually below the 650 USD launch price of the 6800 XT in "2020 dollars", which was considered a relatively good value at the time (not that very many people were ever actually able to find it at that price when it first launched).
It's nice that we saw it get down to $710 recently. Around that price it's a good option for high-end 1440p and 4K if you also want the AV1 encoder and 20gb of vram, without a gimped memory bus, plus Starfield is bundled with it ATM. If you plan to play on max settings at 4K this is a no-brainer over the 4070Ti esp when you're not using super-sampling. I also appreciate these re-reviews to see what has improved since launch. Thanks gents!
Bought this card 4 months ago to replace my 6700 xt and it was such a good decision. Nvidia is no option for me with their anti consumer, anti open source and proprietary bs and so its awesome to see AMD getting it right :)
what was wrong with the 6700xt
Probably nothing but the 7900xt would be a big step up on performance.
@furiousscotsman2916 only in 4k tbh. The 6700xt is great in 1440p
@@Zombie101 That’s just not true, if you check the 15 game average frame rate graph at 1440p in this video, the 6700XT is averaging 74 frames while the 7900XT is averaging 139. That’s a 1.88x, nearly double, increase in performance. The numbers speak for themselves. If you don’t care about gaming past 60fps, I can see why you would stick to a 6700XT, but to say “The 7900XT is only better at 4k” is straight up false
@matthewnovak7351 yeah all depends what frames you want / need to be hitting. For me, 60fps in non competitive games is enough
I just got my 7900XT, upgrading from 3060 and I only paid 620 on Black Friday. Hella Deal
Love the video. Can we get another one adding the 4080, 4090, and 7900xtx?
Was looking last week to upgrade my 3060ti. Amazon Prime day kicked off and I hoped to pick up a 4070ti super. It never dropped below $750. So, I picked up an ASRock phantom Rx 7900 XT for $600. I'm happy.
I ended up picking up a 7900 XTX when a promo code and discount was running a couple weeks back.
Ended up getting the card for $830. Which was killer deal on my end since it was a massive upgrade from the GTX 1070 I was on.
Bro on cost per frame the other cards arent calibrated correctly. For instance in the 1440p part the rx 6600 xt is set at 270 msrp whilst the rx 6650 xt is set at 240 msrp which makes no sense. Additionally eberyone knows the rx 6950 xt isnt 1100 dollars in the 1080p segment of cost per frame, infact in 1440p part it changes to 640 dollars. Why is it inconsistent and incorrect?
Nice! Thanks for this. Was just thinking yesterday that it would be cool to have a fresh take on this card with the latest drivers and pricing from HUB. Flipped on Yutube this morning and here it is. Great job here Steve. At $750 - $769 it truely is the uplift/price successor to the 6800XT finally. 4GB more VRAM, AV1 and 45% faster in RT titles while pulling the same power? Imagine if this has been $769.99 MSRP and called 7800XT 6 months ago? They would have flown off the shelves.
Managed to get one a couple months ago open box from Newegg for $699. I was a little worried because it was an open box reference model, but it's actually been really good with respectable UV/OC numbers. Temperature and coil whine were my biggest concerns, but the coil whine went away after a week or so of testing and stress tests would bring the VRAM temps to around 82°C max. It's much lower during gaming, so I'm a happy camper.
Prices were down in Europe too, for a short time. I bought a Sapphire Pulse 7900 XT the moment it dropped below 800 euros to replace my aging 5700 XT (also a Sapphire Pulse model). I believe this will be the lowest price point we get till Black Friday / Christmas. It's a good product, the pricing just ruined it. The moment it drops to acceptable prices it flies of the shelves, like we seen over here. Very happy with the Sapphire so far. It's very quiet with good temps while maintaining good speeds. Just needs a bit of an undervolt to keep the power draw in check.
Exactly, I bought it as well from Megekko when it was at 799 Euro (incl taxes) for a few days. Very happy with it overall and massive improvement coming from an RX580! 🙂
At least that's a worthy upgrade, there's really no merit at all to upgrading from the same tier RDNA 2 GPU though...
Selling RDNA 3 at the MSRP is a straight ripoff much like Ada Lovelace.
@@MLWJ1993 Yeah, the gains are pretty wild. Who in their right mind would upgrade every gen though, specially in the current market?
Would have been nice to see the next step up cards in the charts for comparison (i.e. the 4080 and the 7900 xtx).
It's a pretty good deal now, much better than the RTX 4070 and Ti
In Italy the 4070 Ti costs as much as the 7900XTX costs in Australia
@@mitsuhhthe video is about the XT, not the XTX
now turn on raytracing
You will pay the difference in electricity prices after some time
@@samuelrave Doesn't matter. Point went over your head
Got the 4070 Ti and I'd easily pay €50 or €100 extra for frame generation and the ray tracing capabilities. It can play path traced Cyberpunk 2077 @ 1440p all settings maxed out and consistently gets 75+ frames. The game looks incredible and plays completely smooth. Can't do that on the 7900 XT. If you don't care about games like that or don't plan to upgrade your card in the next 5 years the extra VRAM may make the Radeon a better buy but for me it makes a lot of sense. Not a mad purchase at all.
Lol
Yeah Steve is very fanboish for calling people mad for paying 15% premium to get a 4070 Ti that beats 7900 XT by around 12% in RT games, and totally mops the living the crap out of it when FG gets involved. You get lower power consumption as bonus and 4070 Ti doesn't run out of VRAM even at native ultra 4K in latest games, so the VRAM argument is null and void.
@@deadlistt lol. Yes the 4070 ti does run out of vram
@@mitsuhh Find me a game where 4070 Ti runs out of VRAM on native 4K max settings as I specified ( not with RT ). I'll wait.
@@deadlistt I don't have to do anything for you.
Will you ever test undervolting for lowering power consumption or undervolting + OC?
its silicon lottery meaning its very unlikely he ll do it and i can see why
In Canada, 7900xt is around 825usd minimum, and taxes are higher on top... It's a very sad market honestly.
here, in the middle of europe, the 7900xt is still at around 900 euros while the 6950xt can be bought for around 650 to 700 euros (keep in mind, those are prices with tax included already).
If you can find the 6800 XT for about 100 Euro less, I firmly believe that's a better deal than the 6950 XT. The performance really is quite close. The 6800 XT is a lot closer in performance to the 6950 XT than it is to the 6800, but the 6950 XT is definitely still not a bad value at that price either, and definitely better than a 900 Euro 7900 XT.
This makes me even happier I got a 7900xtx for $800 on offer - thanks for revisiting
I got a powercolor hellhound 7900 xt from microcenter for $700: an absolute steal and perfect for 1440p ultra-wide!
I sold my old GPU for $389 and just got it on a Black Friday sale for 693 with tax. So basically had half the cost covered.
picked up an XFX 7900xt today for $619.. cant wait to put it in. gg on the upgrade.
This would be great if the MSRP reductions were actually reflected in some european markets, the 7900XT is going for almost the same as a 4080 (1000-1300€ Range) which is ridiculous..
I switched to a 7900XT 2 weeks ago, following the drop in price. At approximately the same price/frame as the 6950XT, the higher efficiency and bigger VRAM made this the better choice long term, especially when taking higher electricity prices here in germany into account over a few years. The 4070Ti was completely out of the question, as I won't spend that amount of money on a product that might be limited by its limited amount of VRAM before its performance would be a limiting factor (as seen in the 3070 series).
My 7900xt overclocked to 3100mhz core, stock vram speed, with an undervolt of 1030mv was pulling close to 350w in-game. How does your do?
@@onyachamp Only undervolted to 1025mV and stuck with stock speed/power. Completely sufficient currently. Might change this later in its life. Using less power at 144Hz cap than I did with my 180W 1070 Ti. Love how easy the overclocking options are through Adrenaline and how resilient the driver is to crashes.
@@Xzavn Nice Undervolt, and a great choice to max out a 144hz monitor. Can't go wrong with a discounted 7900xt, and it was the no-brainer choice over the 12gb vram 4070ti that costs more and performs worse to boot...
Interesting re-review, now considering to buy one .. but did you have any experience with "coil whine" noises on these cards? Which model would you prefer regarding quiet operation ?
I hate when cards are whining.
I just purchased a return item 7900xt for $625 and the Starfield Premium it comes with would cost another $100 which I was planning on buying. So $525 for the card makes it the best cost per frame you could get. Granted I don't believe anyone else will be able to get that price, but MicroCenter did have them listed for $699.99 this past weekend along with a game deal for those who are planning to buy anyways.
Is it improved stability? 11:34
considering i got my 7900xt for $600 , it has been a massive upgrade from my 3080 , also i sold my 3080 for 500 , so i really only ended up paying 100 dollars when everything was said and done it has been great
Micro-center still has open-box 7900xt going for 569 usd (here in USA of course), i picked one up myself the other day. It's nice to have that little bit extra vram at this price. Also i'm coming from a 3070ti, and this thing destroys it!
I was a bit concerned about moving away from Nvidia when i bought my 7900xt, but i couldn't be happier with my choice, i upgraded my AM4 platform with it and a 5800X3D. And i was surprised by the performance for the money, the 20GB VRAM buffer and the great user friendly software utilities. It might chug power a little bit but im so glad i chose it over the 4070ti
Btw if you wanna lower power requirements, those AMD GPUs tend be quite high tacted and can be downclocked a bunch with little loss. Its very easy to lower max hz and power limit over the driver interface. Also makes the card run cooler, if your fans get a bit loud.
Only annoying thing is that any crash, hard reboot and update will rest the under/overclocking settings. I really want AMD to fix that.
@@termitreter6545 that's great to know! Thanks!
@@termitreter6545there's a way to set it to auto load on startup with PBO 2 I thought? Essentially windows auto tasking each time
Hey, I also got the 5800X3D to "max out" my b550 mobo and prepare for a GPU upgrade. So I'm rocking the x3d and 7900xt 🙂
It's a great combo
Joining the club! 5800X3D + RX 7900 XT + Ultrawide 3440x1440.
Isn't currently being sold at Newegg but is listed on the site. 🤔. Does say it's coming from the MSI store on the listing.
A great re-review. we must also mention that with this and all amd cards you won't need to change your PSU for the 12 pin new ones needed by nvidia. i got the 7800x3d and the 7900xt on my 8,5 year old evga g2 750 watt psu and the pc is rocking at 2K in all modern games without any issue.
Yeah, I am running my xtx on the stock 650W psu
@@Whathec yeah the psu thingie must totally be mentioned in every review
Um, your PSU -plugs into a cable that goes into your video card= you don't need a special PSU, I have a 4090 running on a 3 year old 1000 watt PSU.
@@Whathecthat's a little bit low I feel lol, might wanna upgrade just in case when you can
@@JMatt1 that's what I thought but here I am a few months in doing just fine it seems haha
Building a PC and just got the 7900XT Hellhound at Microcent for $720!
Got myself a Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XT just a few days ago. Really beautiful design and RGB lighting, feels very well made, delivers excellent performance paired with my 5800x3d and the temperatures are very good thanks to its massive cooler which is the same as the XTX model. I might have paid too much for it (900€/960$), but considering I upgraded from a GTX 1050 ti, it was worth it for me.
How does it handle ray tracing?
@@madhaze0126 Don't care much for ray tracing, but from what I've seen in benchmark videos, it's comparable to a 3080. The only game I tried to play with RT ON was cyberpunk and I get around 45-50 fps in 1080p with ultra graphics and RT set to max, but I prefer playing without RT for better framerate.
I'm a graphics snob , I would like to experience raytracing in Cyberpunk at 1440p so it doesn't look like AMD have a solution for me right now. Upgrading next year fingers crossed , see what happens . Thanks for your reply.
@@madhaze0126 Yeah, I know what you mean. Personally I would have preferred a 4070 ti, but I was worried the 12 gb vram wouldn't last me long enough, considering how unoptimized games tend to be nowadays. So I decided to buy the 7900 XT, keep it for 3-4 years and in the meantime save money to buy an RTX 6090, or whatever the nvidia flagship will be called then.
@@winkblue1523 I still might do the same , see what money ( if any) I have next year :) lol
Missed the opportunity to compare temps between these coolers
Really needed the XTX and 4080/90 in here.
They can do multiple videos now. Makes sense to keep them separated.
Good review, 1 thing i will say, at the end when your talking about price to performance, the 6950xt is not $1100 in the uk, its priced at £580-£600, so with that in mind the 6950xt is still better value for money being £4.71 per frame compared to the 7900xt being £5.84 which again is uk pricing. Nice to see a re review though
I got one RX7900XT for 3440x1440 a few months ago, for 800$. It's perfect card for this resolution, and after good UV it takes 240-260W in games. So, for it's price, perfect choice.
what cpu? which gpu did u upgrade from?
@@Gabi-dt7jn Ryzen 5800x3d. Upgraded from RTX3060ti. But now I have RTX4060 which I bought yesterday. My RX7900XT had issue with hotspot up to 110°C, I sent it to warranty at 2nd January 2024 and reseller send me mail after month with info about money refund. They still don't give me my money back so I bought rtx4060. Right now, on 3440x1440 and low-high(depends on game) settings, 4060 is enough for me. Of course it will be my gpu for maybe a year, and I want to buy new RDNA4 or new RTX5xxx when it's release. So, using RX7900XT was a bad experience for me after few months
@@Gabi-dt7jn 5800x3d and RTX3060ti>RX7900XT>RTX4060 because my RX7900XT had high hotspot issue's and never come back from warranty. I'm still waiting for my money back, so I bought rtx4060 yesterday. It will be my gpu for next year and then I go to RDNA4 or RTX5xxx
even with this, this gpu still doesn't make sense atleast from where i am and how gpu prices are, 4070 ti goes around 900 usd while this is priced at 1,260 usd..crazy
I've been interested in possibly purchasing this card for my new build. Really appreciate the time and effort you put into this update!
I just did what you're thinking about doing. You won't regret it, as long as you get it at $750 or less!
I have one as well in an SFF case. High performance, low temps, great card. Also something Hardware Unboxed always fail to mention in these benchmarks is SAM if you have an AMD Processor as well.
I bought my 7900xt 5 months ago, I'm so glad with these driver updates
Picked one up for $630 at microcenter last week! Such a great deal and difference from the 3070, especially with the VRAM
Im so jealous, only one microcenter coming to Florida
in europe the cheapest is 849€ 😢
@@dante8677€770 in The Netherlands! (The 4070 Ti is still a better deal, as that costs €800)
Screamin deal
Just got one from microcenter last week for $630 as well, and I too upgraded from the 3070. It is wonderful not getting bottlenecked by the 8gb of VRAM on the 3070.
I upgraded from a 3080 to a 4090. The parts for my new pc build are coming soon.
Recently got the PowerColor RX 7900 XT for $700 thanks to Micro Center. I upgraded from an RX 580, so it was quite a jump. Loving this GPU so far.
I got a PowerColor 7900 XT as well. I do find these reviews interesting in that AMD is seeing their second level card struggling to match the 4070 ti in all games.
Price to performance is good, but they leave market share on the table by not having a top performance card.
7900 XTX is a 4080 competitor, 7900 XT is a 4070 competitor, nothing to even think about competing with the 4090.
@@EdDale44135 The only card worth buying from Nvidia's entire line-up is too expensive for 99% of customers, I think AMD is doing just fine....
Well, the 4070ti has no value. 800€+ for a card that will be outdated in only 2 years due to the low VRAM is insane. Such a horrible investment..And u cant even save money for saving power cause 2 years is just too short for the difference. Such a premium price for a product that doesnt last long at all without lowering graphics is a joke tbh.
It only makes sense if your old GPU died and I have to use the the exact software the 4070 offers for work. Very niche and still bad scenario..
I went from an RX 580 to an RX6600, and I thought that was a sizable jump … WOW
Good insight. I remember the conclusion on your previous 7900 XT review, but I think you are absolutely right about where they should have priced this thing day 1.
When I saw the Powercolor Hellhound go on sale at MicroCenter for $699, bought it immediately and picked it up the next day. I could not get happy with that card.. inconsistent frame rates, horrible coil squeal (not just a whine, it went from a constant growl to a squeal when frame rates picked up) and it reported 92 watts board power at idle with two monitors connected. I returned it a week later, intending to settle for an Nvidia 4070 Ti. I just couldn't make myself buy an $800 card with 12 GB of memory though, so when the Sapphire Pulse went to $720 on Newegg I decided to give it one more try. By then the 23.7.1 driver was out and the experience was night and day. Absolute max frame rates from the Pulse are slightly below what I could get from the HellHound, but I get no stutters, no noise and no lag, although the idle power with two monitors connected is still over 80 watts. I don't know if it was the drivers or just a poor copy of the HellHound, but the Pulse is a much better experience.
Great review idea and very well executed as per usual, good job!
One question though: for the rest of the GPU's did you also use the latest drivers? (that was not very clear to me in the methodology section)
Even at $750 the 7900XT is barely competitive with Nvidia's $800 4070ti, and people consider the 4070ti a ripoff. But of course the community is going to meatshield for AMD.
Yes the 16GB buffer of the 6800XT drew me to that card instead of the 4070.
In my opinion there is only one real example of raytracing that makes an actual noteworthy visual upgrade and that is RT Overdrive in Cyberpunk. It looks amazing.
Sadly at the pricepoint I was looking at, both the 4070 and the 6800XT aren't really capable of driving that without seriously compromising visual clarity due to aggressive upscaling.
And frame generation doesn't increase fps, so even if it bumps the 4070 from 30 to 50 fps (so playable territory), you're still having 30fps-like input delay (not playable imho).
The extra texture settings I can enable 3 years down the line will severely outweigh the slightly more accurate shadows the RTX 4070 can draw with RT. The 6800XT will age better, of that there is absolutely no doubt. Same with this card.
Unfortunately, here in Hungary the cheapest 7900XT, which is the Sapphire Pulse is around 950 USD. While the cheapest available 6950XT is the Merc 319 for 750 USD.
For the exact same price the 7900 XT is still more worth it than the 4070 Ti as more future proof and will age better.
Same channel u are commenting right now on in recent QA said that 12gb vram is prolly fine for few years, in that time card will become obsolete anyway.
Imo DLSS, no VR issues, no idle power draw bug is worth on Nvidia.
@@keldon1137 For 1080p maybe and in general - its not like games dont need more vram, Developers try their hardest to still optimize for 8 gig cards. once 12 gig becomes the standard (which may be sooner than later concerning the low sell numbers on 7600 and 4060) you wont even be able to play 1080p ultra with 12 gigs while in raw rasterization power you could have used that card for way longer. graphics card generations are getting pulled longer, im still on a 6 year old 1080ti with 11 gigs and am still fine on nearly every game 1080p ultra - but next time i upgrade definitely to 1440p and 16 gig plus
@@keldon1137idle power issues are largely resolved for single monitors now and the same issue exists for Nvidia with multi-monitor setups. I would agree DLSS is a great technology, but VR is a neiche. VRAM difference is substantial at 3440x1440p and 4K and will be an issue before these cards are obsolete… especially the memory bus. Wait and see. 18m from now.
@@keldon1137 The VR space is still a niche sector in the gaming market by all accounts. 12GB isn't sufficient for VR either if we're really digging into it.
With how today's games are and how resource heavy AAA games are (particularly unoptimized console ports and UE 5 titles being phased in), you'll be turning down settings 1-2 years into the card's lifecycle, which imo is a terrible feeling. Both cards are comparable. RT is objectively better with the 4070 Ti, but it's not horrible on the 7900 XT. You'll have to use DLSS/FSR either way to keep it useable. As far as power idle issues, it can happen with any card and can usually be fixed with tweaking settings in the software; that's to also say revisions have already been released from what I've read.
You'd honestly have to have more incentive (and hyper specific use cases) outside gaming where GeForce cards are absolutely vital to go forward with Nvidia in the future if they're just going to keep gimping the cards out the gate with higher-than-life prices. I have a 3080 10GB and unless Nvidia can push out a crazy 80 Class card next gen with 20-24GB of GDDR7 (cause G6X runs hot as shit) at a reasonable price, I'll just go for RDNA 4 or maybe Intel if Battlemage is up to snuff. I can live without nvenc/cuda for my task.
@@keldon1137the difference is 7900xt won't be obsolete while 4070ti will be due to VRAM. Hence resale value of 7900xt will also be better. Not to mention at 4k 12gb is already a problem.
VR problem is fixed. Idle power problem is fixed for some. It amazes me how people find some irrelevant reasons to justify their Nvidia bias. You're just brainwashed you don't need to cope with it, it is what it is.
One nice sort of niche place that the 7900XT and XTX do well in is if you enjoy gaming, but you also occasionally do 3D video rendering or any other tasks that use massive amounts of VRAM. Nvidia's cards, with the ludicrously expensive 4090 as the exception, are lacking the same gigantic 20GB+ VRAM buffers. Anybody looking for a gaming card that can still do some video production work would benefit greatly from these two cards, in my opinion. They'll also age considerably better since one of the most limiting factors in today's cards is insufficient VRAM being fully saturated with high-resolution textures. Part of me hopes that the 7700 and 7800 also have large VRAM buffers because, current performance aside, that gives me a little peace of mind for the future. I'd like to see a minimum of 16GB VRAM on the 7700/7800, though that is probably wishful thinking.
You guys really are the best in the biz! Keep up the great work!
just got the sapphire pulse for my lian li a4 h20. for $760 and you get the $100 premium edition of starfield thats a killer of a deal
How is $750 a good deal?? Why are people still smoking the crack of high prices? Theres literally NO DEMAND for graphics cards right now and were excited about a 2 year old card being “discounted” to $750 dollars???
I got a 7900xtx Sapphire Nitro 2 months ago. I love it! If you like to undervolt and overclock, AMD software makes it easy to do! Had Nvidia cards before this and it's safe to say I won't be going back to team green!
I own a gaming cafe, I ve RTX cards as well as AMD cards and I don't run games at 4K but 1440p for sure and at 1440p, AMD cards. Make less sense, specially RT is bull shit for these cards.
Many say RT and DLSS is not a big thing but as much as I needed to say the same, ny customers love to play games with RT and DLSS, for eg Witcher 3, RT + DLSS FG gives easy 100 fps average with 12700k+4070Ti.
Same setting on 6900XT phantom+ 5800x gave me a shocking 65 fps average. I also swapped 6900xt with the above reviewed 7900xt which I bought for 900 USD and it gave just 77 fps average which was super noticeable.
So I don't understand why Hwunboxed skipped RT in this video.
With RT on the expensive 4070 Ti with just 12 GB even today punches the 7900xt right on its nose
@@1989rs500 there is just a problem with your claim. first of all witcher and cyber punk use the same engine and the entire games are not optimized to run on amd hardware at all ( SMT fix for ryzen cpu´s for example) and even then, nvidia only pushes ahead in this heavy RT implemented games wich most of them are nvidia sponsored. in all other cases they are very similar in performance. so would it make sense to call the 4070ti a better card if its overall slower and more expensive, but faster in 4-5 titles with heavy RT. absolutly not. and sorry to say that, if you buy a 800$ 4070ti and play at reasonable 1440p and you allready have to use DLSS to get good FPS, then there is something wrong. just look at 30 series, everyone was claiming them to be "futureproof" because of DLSS and RT. now, one generation later you suffer allready from low performance in new games, new RT implementations make them as useless as the RX6000 series and to round things up, in new titles you cant even play at the same texture quality because you run out of vram and games have to drop them to prevent stutters...
I just got the sapphire pulse 7900xt for 500 on amazon on sale im hyped
3rd party? Be careful
GPU's are stilly expensive here in the UK still. your lookint at a minimum of £730 for the RX7900XT which is about $925 and for some reason the RX6900XT is still up at around £1100 in some cases.
That's because 6900xt is mostly just out of stock now in the UK. You also remember that all us price is before sales tax or the equivalent to ex vat. Figure in vat and it's basically the same price. The real reason that pricing in the UK feels so screwed is the drop in the value of the pound since brexit
Brexit
I managed to get the 7900xt for £699 1/2 weeks ago. Came with premium code for Starfield worth £100 that I was going to get anyway. I essentially got it for £599 - Was a steal at that price
@@Kaveri324 yeah I went second hand and picked up a 6800 for 300. There are good deals out there
I literately missed that deal, it’s now up at £730 for the same Pulse card would have made a huge upgrade from my 3070
I got my Powercolor 7900xt on sale for $649 ( I think it was a price error though), and have been very happy with it. Definitely a steal.
This re-review is such a great idea! I hope AMD takes note of this.
takes note of releasing overpriced GPUs being okay because HU is going to make a video advertising it again anyway when the price drops?
I do not regret upgrading my RTX2070 to a RX6950XT.
I usually get the Nvidia '70 cards, and decided to go for "team red" this time around.
_although I use Ryzen in most recent builds, I haven't had an AMD GPU since ATI had actual playing card size ones. (mainly for driver support reasons)_
Great review as always Steve! Hope to see more of this kind of revisit video in the future as you always benchmark stuffs fast. Ofc I've come to watch your video fast as well!
youre the same person that cries about AMD products on ancient gameplays channel, why dont you do the same here? lmao
I just got my rx 7900xt with the starfield bundle after trying the RTX 4070, and the performance jump is differently worth the extra $180 I paid for it ( I originally got the rtx 4070 for $600, then the Rx 7900xt for $789). The Thing I didn't see coming was the Graphics Driver Issues. I've downloaded the lastest Drivers as of today, and even uninstalled and redownloaded them as well and still occasionally see a driver crash. It happens mainly while playing BG3 and Battlefield 2042. But at the cost its a bit disappointing to have to deal with this problem. With the 4070 I had absolutely no issues whatsoever out of the Box. If anyone has any advise on how to deal with the graphics issues please let me know.
I never had any driver issues with my 6900 XT. I always do clean Windows installs when I switch out a part, doesn't matter which part. A lot of people recommend DDU, but even then I still recommend clean Windows installs. That is the only way to guarantee a clean start.
Do you still think the 7900 XT is worth it over the 4070? I was looking at those two cards, with an edge to the Nvidia for the efficiency.
@juan.v9952 For the raw performance the 7900xt was definitely better. Maybe read reviews on the 7900xt you're looking at first, personally I'd stay as far away from the XFX Merc models as it was nothing but problems for me. I ended up going with an MSI 7900xtx and have had no issues whatsoever I couldn't be happier. If you don't mind the potential gamble of a bad unit I would say giving the 7900xt a try is worth your time. the extra 8 gbs of VRam will last you a lot longer.
@@Fredtake Yea, the 20 GB of vram is more than enough for many years, it's definitely better than 12 with the 4070.
What issues did the XFX cards give you? I've read that brand has noisy fans, and that they run hot.
@juan.v9952 So I didn't have any issues with noise or temps, the issues I was having were with the graphics drivers. While I was playing a handful of games (badurs gate 3, battlefield 2042, starfield, dying light 2) the drivers would randomly crash. I tried adjusting the clockspeeds by lowering the mhz it would run at (not too good with messing around with the settings), and still would have crashes occur around 1-3 hours of playing sometimes even after like 10-15 mins of starting. Just felt real frustrating with the price. It might have just been a bad unit but I wasn't feeling like getting another XFX and finding out.
It's a great card as the 4070Ti with just 12GB VRAM is not an option and 4080 is too expensive (especially considering you only get 16GB there), so the 7900XT is a great middle-ground. Got a new Taichi for 725€ from eBay and I'm very pleased with it (switched from 3080 10GB)
Giving up DLSS wasn’t an issue for you? ( I’m in the same boat with a 3080 10gb and didn’t see more than a 15-20% uplift from the 7900 XT)
I wish the 3080 was on this chart as it's pretty relevant
@@MrAtthedrivein925 you know what the issue was? 10GB of VRAM :D
@@MrAtthedrivein925 that’s weird I’ve gotten a 61% higher time spy gfx score from the undervolted 7900xt compared to the undervolted 3080 10GB. 3080 score was average and 7900xt a little above average. Worth it to me! Stuttering in D4 is also completely gone even with ultra textures. It’s a great card.
Whats your opinion on the 6950 XT its gotten pretty low and performance seems to be pretty good for the price. Your price per frame chart could benefit from updated prices
Thank you so much for the re-review of this card. Rrp was a joke and should be lower still but this is the market we live in.
Even though you have the outro music mentioned, I cannot find it anywhere to obtain.
Hi Steve would you consider doing the same re-review for the RTX 4080 as the price has dropped by $200 for some models hovering around $1000. Would be interesting to see how it stacks up. Thanks for all you do
Thanks for the followup, though you made your positions about the price clear the first time
I would however like a power to frame graph, as its hard to keep track with all the higher end cards also drawing far more, and it would be nice to compare the upcoming rest of the 7xxx stack against both its past generation, and nvidias
Man, imagine if AMD priced their stuff properly on release. They'd have like 5x more market cap now.
Not really. Peoplr would still buy nvidia. Nvidia would adjust prices slightly and that's it. They have all of the features, the marketing and nvidia also appears as the better company, so, very few would change.
Never under estimate AMDs ability to drop the ball
5x would make it higher than Nvidia which is unlikely, AMD is already bigger than Intel. I'd say 2-3x is reasonable IF gamers don't make dumb buying decisions which is impossible judging from 3050 outselling 6600 while being slower and more expensive. This retarded behaviour can be seen from years and years ago as well with 580 vs 1050ti. So even if they did price lower nothing will change, maybe a few % market share that's it
and way less margin anyway. They can relocate the expensive 5nm slots anyway for higher margin stuff.
They'd have MUCH more favourable reviews, and they'd be selling better, but definitely wouldn't be making that big of a difference to their market cap. The 7900 XTX already sold really well at 1000 USD. Gaming cards are a relatively small portion of their overall business, and earn significantly lower margins than their server and enterprise products, which is where they're most competitive, and also where they're REALLY raking in the money right now.
I got mine several months ago for only $780 and I have been incredibly happy with it. It is the XFX Merc 310 and it has been at $780 ever since I picked mine up. That's way better than it's launch price.
Like others have suggested, it would have been more useful to have comparisons against similar tiered cards like the 6800 XT, 7900 XT, RTX 4080, and RTX 4090. Having entry/mid tier cards in the charts is not relevant to the customers in the market for high/ultra tier cards like the 7900 XT.
4080 is almost twice the price 😂
@@cheshirster that's the point
one thing tho, these prices are only discounted in the USA, rest of us are still paying 850 minimum and its a hard swallow when you could have the tensor cores of the 4070 TI
Doesn't matter, people will still buy 4070ti 🤷
Id go with nvidia most of the time due to dlss and ray tracing.
You really need to start including 3440 x 1440p benchmarks in your reviews.
It's one of the most popular gaming PC resolutions.
Just got one for $620
Considering the Starfield code currently included if you're interested in that game, that effectively knocks the price from £740 in the UK currently down to £690. Not a bad proposition?
Idk what AMD were thinking with the 7900xt at 900 msrp. It should have launched at 850 most and probably at 800.
It should have been $650-700 USD
Should have been about 600-700$ .
@@mitsuhhthat would have shot themselves in the foot becuase of 6900xts and 6950xts at 600 dollars. They were never going to realease them at that price.
Should have been 200 dollars
@@hiddedevries8853 Does not matter, they should have reduced the price of the remaining stock
I recently picked up a Hellhound 7900XT at Micro Center open box for like $650? It has fairly loud coil whine over 400 FPS, but with a quick setting to limit it to 240 or lower, it's pretty amazing value.
AMD: Never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity 👌
The original price of the 7900XT has ruined the pricing of their entire stack below it. Genius
Nice comparison at 6:00 for F1 22, makes it very easy to compare different drivers and game updates!
Worth noting that some these gains could also be attributed to optimisations to the games that have received updates over time since the initial driver.
Seen some 7900XTX in the 700s on Amazon. Copped a 7900XTX Red Devil for mid 700 and some change, not sure if a deal, just gonna test and probably return.
Good stuff but no re done with recent Nvidia drivers?
I like that you took the time to re-check the card. Nice Touch!
I would like to have heard you speak about any driver issues that you may have seen on the original review & if they have been cleared up. Also, any thoughts on stability improvement in general. Thank you for the content.
Gonna be getting this card for 600USD, the cost per frame is insaaane 🤑