Tomlin is a protected species in the media, guy is finished and everyone can see it. Goes to 2x superbowls and wins one with a team Bill Cowher built and has been nothing but mediocre ever since.
@@Anthony-dj7ek That Steeler team Cowher built was a dynasty that was so good, Tomlin won a super bowl with them his second year!!! Time for Tomlin to go 18 years and no playoffs win since 2016?
People who say moronic things like this know nothing about the Steelers and just have their blinders on about Tomlin. Fans in Pittsburgh know him well and are tired of the mediocrity and his annual underachievement.
Fans in Pittsburgh are clearly too emotionally tied to the situation to evaluate it clearly. Your team is mediocre *at best* and competes solely bec of Mike tomlin’s ability to coach a 17-game season.
@@christianbrooks9155 The team is built in his image. He deserves the blame along with the ownership. They’re stuck on a dead philosophy that doesn’t win championships in today’s NFL.
@ they’re stuck with a JV roster that can’t beat elite teams. This team’s primary focus has NEVER been the QB position. They got lucky picking up Big Ben in the second round when they did. They also don’t like trading draft picks, which is why they rarely move up in the draft to get a difference maker at that position.
It doesn’t matter if he gets a QB. He won’t know how to use him. Defensive minded head coaches like Tomlin are a thing of the past. Each passing year proves it.
You need to understand Steeler ownership isn't going to spend the money to get he players. They are just like Bengals ownership. Sorry but they are old fashion but they will put a winning team on field but they have no chance in the playoffs. It is same for Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. Jerry's teams have some of the lowest payrolls in the entire NFL. That why they traded away Amari Cooper he just got to expensive.
@ Look it could be worse. You could be a Bears fan. A 102 year old women owns the team and she says she ain't selling. The family member that runs the team doesn't really know football.
@ Or you could be Dallas Cowboy fan. Jerry Jones has for years as had one of lowest payroll in the entire NFL. He put together good teams but bookie's in Las Vegas has told me for years Jerry isn't going spend the money in free agency to get the good players to get them into Super Bowl like Chiefs or Ravens.
I am a lifelong Steelers fan, 50+ years, and I will continue to be one until my dying day. That being said, I don’t think I could afford the amount of liquor and drugs I would have to take to say something like this. Exactly who does this guy think chooses Pittsburgh’s quarterbacks?
This is probably the most misunderstood dynamic of the organization. Unless you are a part of the inner circle, you have no way of knowing how much influence Tomlin has. Even though player selection is not his responsibility,at $15M/yr, I would think he’s actively petitioning. On paper, Nope….not his. In real life, Omar & Rooneys know Tomlin’s preferences and If I had to guess, I’d say there was a level of consensus before making final decisions. But who knows 🤷🏻♂️
Tomlin propaganda continues and always will. He needs to go. He is a good coach but its run its course. That won't happen obviously but i wish it would
One thing that Dan said that I agree with was that the defense fell off because they were constantly on the field because of the offense not doing their part. I wonder out of the 60 minutes in the last five games how many minutes were the defense on the field.
It’s not like they were getting dumpsters without Fields. The blame goes many ways, but Tomlin also has not had better than mediocre play from his QBs since Ben
@Zeffpenguin tomlin never gets any blame from mainstream media. In 2017, dude had Ben, and the defense got torched in that playoff game. The team wasn't even ready to play. Same as 2020, they were not ready to play in that playoff game either. But its never Tomlin's fault. Ive routed for his success, but man. Russ hasn't played great down the stretch, but it hasn't all been on him, but he's the latest scapegoat. There is no excuse to lose 5 in a row with that good roster
@ the excuse is that the roster isn’t good, their only offense piece was hurt for three of 5, disappeared entirely for one, and the fifth was against an obviously better team. The Steelers roster isn’t good. Tomlin deserves blame, the defense falling off is his fault in small part, but you can’t blame him for the offense
JF is Arthur Smith type of QB. The Steelers made mistake benching him. Should’ve been trying to develop instead of chasing unrealistic standards. This all on Mike T.
George Pickens carried the offence what is this new narrative that he is not a no1 WR lmao these guys absolute 🤡... The offence only plan was throw the ball to Pickens and pray he catches it because he is that guy
Insane how the media refuses to criticize Tomlin. They bash McCarthy who has a better record then Tomlin but give the great coach seal of approval to Tomlin. I guess they're afraid of Stephen A.'s rath at least at ESPN
Harder than in sounds brother. The most expensive defense in the NFL shouldn't need to be fixed. That's on coaching and I don't see it changing next year.
Dan Orlovsky, you need to do your research better..Ben Roeselsburger was drafted 11th overall in the first round, not in the middle of the draft. Get your facts right man
All of the historical blue collar teams have the same problem. They need to change philosophies not coaches. Washington won their 1st playoff game since 2006 because they fired the owner and drafted a great QB.
They need QB blockers/protectors… whatever those positions are called. O-line is slow or tired. They need to add younger, faster & stronger O-Line, WR & RB
The Rooney’s and the Mara’s are very very close families! They are inter married. Do an entire trade of coaching staffs. Giants to Steelers and back! Daboll at the Steelers. Tomlin at the Giants! Win win! 😂
Andrew that sound dumb! Tomlin picked Kenny Pickett!! So now he should leave because he didn't prepare for Roethlisberger retirement it's a bed he made now u endorsing him running.
Why is everything on the qb ? The defense has been trash for years and years ! Thre oline had sucked since mike munchkin left ! No qb wants to play in the burgh the o line is absolutely atrocious
The fanbase are clearly spoiled. Eighteen winning seasons and a SB arent enough. The third most wins in the nfl in last 20 years. Let them be a perrenial loser for a while with different coaches. See if that changes their tune. The collective EGO needs to get knocked down a few rungs. They'll wish the had him back.
Where's All These excuses for Mike McCarthy and other long standing recently fired coaches that YALL Mainstream Media use for Mike Tomlin??? 😡 Excuses used for Only Tomin and No other Coaches Ever in History by Media..----> *GM needs to Mike needs more players *He's a Great Coach even without Playoff Wins in a decade *He Overchaved when wins*+ games without a pro bowl QB *He Needs help ( a new OC/DC coaches *Its the players not playing good enough's fault 1 Watts_740 ·
Well no other longstanding coach has 0 losing records. Certainly not McCarthy who the media is not lambasting currently and who is coming off a losing season lol
@@Zeffpenguin Add context Sir, McCarthy went 21-5 twice, with Cowboys and this year didnt have a QB (injured) and 3 or 4 of his top defense stars too. again stop talking out of context you're smarter than that. Now be smart enough to compare McCarthys playoff resume to Tomlins. Remember what's important. Regular Season or Playoffs
Hopefully Steelers fans see this but Andy Reid couldn't win a playoff game in Kansas city until Patrick mahomes was starting at QB. It's not Tomlin it's the fact he doesn't have a QB that can compete. I know Steelers fans remember their last playoff win it was against Andy Reid and the chiefs in 2016. After that loss chiefs traded for Patrick mahomes and the rest is history. Just give Tomlin a QB and he can win
Andy Reid is an offensive minded coach. Tomlin is not. Tomlin had an elite offensive for 5 plus years and had 3 playoff wins. You need offensive minded coaches in today’s NFL.
The PR that the media does for Tomlin needs to be studied 😂
They want people to believe Tomlin is a great coach..He's ok but definitely not great by any stretch.
Doc rivers of the NFL
Doc Rivers underachieves in the playoffs. Tomlin over achieves in the regular season which is his problem @TyroneBiggums789
@@TyroneBiggums789Exactly
Yes to the highest😂
Tomlin is a protected species in the media, guy is finished and everyone can see it. Goes to 2x superbowls and wins one with a team Bill Cowher built and has been nothing but mediocre ever since.
Yes and he had a HOF Qb and a great WR and Rb at the time.
@@Anthony-dj7ek That Steeler team Cowher built was a dynasty that was so good, Tomlin won a super bowl with them his second year!!! Time for Tomlin to go 18 years and no playoffs win since 2016?
People who say moronic things like this know nothing about the Steelers and just have their blinders on about Tomlin. Fans in Pittsburgh know him well and are tired of the mediocrity and his annual underachievement.
Fans in Pittsburgh are clearly too emotionally tied to the situation to evaluate it clearly. Your team is mediocre *at best* and competes solely bec of Mike tomlin’s ability to coach a 17-game season.
@@christianbrooks9155 The team is built in his image. He deserves the blame along with the ownership. They’re stuck on a dead philosophy that doesn’t win championships in today’s NFL.
@ they’re stuck with a JV roster that can’t beat elite teams. This team’s primary focus has NEVER been the QB position. They got lucky picking up Big Ben in the second round when they did. They also don’t like trading draft picks, which is why they rarely move up in the draft to get a difference maker at that position.
It doesn’t matter if he gets a QB. He won’t know how to use him. Defensive minded head coaches like Tomlin are a thing of the past. Each passing year proves it.
You need to understand Steeler ownership isn't going to spend the money to get he players. They are just like Bengals ownership. Sorry but they are old fashion but they will put a winning team on field but they have no chance in the playoffs. It is same for Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. Jerry's teams have some of the lowest payrolls in the entire NFL. That why they traded away Amari Cooper he just got to expensive.
@@HellBot-gi5si I understand that. The Steelers organization as a whole is stuck on a philosophy that doesn’t win championships in today’s NFL.
@ Look it could be worse. You could be a Bears fan. A 102 year old women owns the team and she says she ain't selling. The family member that runs the team doesn't really know football.
@ Or you could be Dallas Cowboy fan. Jerry Jones has for years as had one of lowest payroll in the entire NFL. He put together good teams but bookie's in Las Vegas has told me for years Jerry isn't going spend the money in free agency to get the good players to get them into Super Bowl like Chiefs or Ravens.
@ That why the NFL has turn into the WWF. LOL😂
I am a lifelong Steelers fan, 50+ years, and I will continue to be one until my dying day. That being said, I don’t think I could afford the amount of liquor and drugs I would have to take to say something like this. Exactly who does this guy think chooses Pittsburgh’s quarterbacks?
I agree
Mike has to go
Money has the ultimate decision. The gm has a say as well.
This is probably the most misunderstood dynamic of the organization. Unless you are a part of the inner circle, you have no way of knowing how much influence Tomlin has. Even though player selection is not his responsibility,at $15M/yr, I would think he’s actively petitioning. On paper, Nope….not his. In real life, Omar & Rooneys know Tomlin’s preferences and If I had to guess, I’d say there was a level of consensus before making final decisions. But who knows 🤷🏻♂️
I've been a fan for 44 years and I'm out. Clearly ownership is cheap and cares nothing about thier loyal fan base, so why should i.
Tomlin propaganda continues and always will. He needs to go. He is a good coach but its run its course. That won't happen obviously but i wish it would
Who you gonna have in his place? You don’t see he doesn’t have a quarterback smfh
Are we forgetting dat he wanted to hold on to a 1 armed Big Ben for too long now we talkin bout his QBs smh
Mike Tomlin a ride or die, don’t hate.
Are you forgetting how to speak basic English? Dat is not a word
It’s been 4 years he pick the qb after Big Ben we need to stop blaming a qb that isn’t play in 4 years
@@Red_Nanaki speak English
The standard is the standard!
One thing that Dan said that I agree with was that the defense fell off because they were constantly on the field because of the offense not doing their part. I wonder out of the 60 minutes in the last five games how many minutes were the defense on the field.
Facts! Russell Wilson played his but off, that O-line sucked and his receivers were horrible
Played his but off? 💀
Who made Russ push the sled at training camp????
this might be the stupidest thing ive ever heard
Yeah right, 5 losses in a row was all russ's fault, except when they were winning, then it was due to tomlin's genious
It’s not like they were getting dumpsters without Fields. The blame goes many ways, but Tomlin also has not had better than mediocre play from his QBs since Ben
@Zeffpenguin tomlin never gets any blame from mainstream media. In 2017, dude had Ben, and the defense got torched in that playoff game. The team wasn't even ready to play. Same as 2020, they were not ready to play in that playoff game either. But its never Tomlin's fault. Ive routed for his success, but man. Russ hasn't played great down the stretch, but it hasn't all been on him, but he's the latest scapegoat. There is no excuse to lose 5 in a row with that good roster
@ the excuse is that the roster isn’t good, their only offense piece was hurt for three of 5, disappeared entirely for one, and the fifth was against an obviously better team. The Steelers roster isn’t good. Tomlin deserves blame, the defense falling off is his fault in small part, but you can’t blame him for the offense
@Zeffpenguin lol, "the roster isn't good", nonsense
Dude is the head coach, not the DC
Thank You Dan, Pittsburgh would have to Get out of There Comfort Zone and Use other Draft Picks to Move Up to Get A Franchise QB
*their
Yeah sure. He’s too good. Whatever it takes to get him out of Pittsburgh. He’s outstanding! We don’t deserve him! Get him away from us!
😂We’re not worthy! We’re not worthy! Give us ANYBODY else!
JF is Arthur Smith type of QB. The Steelers made mistake benching him. Should’ve been trying to develop instead of chasing unrealistic standards. This all on Mike T.
He's tooooo comfortable. Not an exes and o coach. His message is very stale and he cant back up all his words so they're meaningless.
George Pickens carried the offence what is this new narrative that he is not a no1 WR lmao these guys absolute 🤡... The offence only plan was throw the ball to Pickens and pray he catches it because he is that guy
Another 10 years of failure then 🤣🤣🤣
Pretty much 🤣😁
It wont as long as your GONE!!!
Insane how the media refuses to criticize Tomlin. They bash McCarthy who has a better record then Tomlin but give the great coach seal of approval to Tomlin. I guess they're afraid of Stephen A.'s rath at least at ESPN
Mike Tomlin is the destroyer from Ghostbusters, The stay puft marshmallow Man. Time to cross the streams...
The Offensive Coordinator just stared down at his play sheet, barely looking up to watch the game
Tomlin is not the reason why they haven't had a losing season during these last few years. Its TJ Watt and Chris Boswell.
Hawk spot on! Get Tomlin a "big dog" RB & WR!
He had
Kenny Pickett
Justin Fields
&
Russell Wilson
It's not the QB it's the Offensive Line, we gave up 5 sacks against the Chiefs on Christmas
If Mike Tomlin wants to keep his job. Fix the Steelers defense and fix the O-Line.
That's it.
Harder than in sounds brother. The most expensive defense in the NFL shouldn't need to be fixed. That's on coaching and I don't see it changing next year.
@tycenreckker8328 HC Tomlin needed a right defensive coordinator
Tomlin needs to go, from the offensive coach position down to the QB and defense it’s time it’s the 5 year in a row now.
Dan Orlovsky, you need to do your research better..Ben Roeselsburger was drafted 11th overall in the first round, not in the middle of the draft. Get your facts right man
Learn to spell
Mahomes went 10, Allen went 7 Lamar went last in 1st round. We can get in position, just have to make the move
You see how Mel doesn’t do a lot of Lamar takes cuz he was dead wrong about him
Makes you wonder are the media protecting him???? How is he good???
All of the historical blue collar teams have the same problem. They need to change philosophies not coaches. Washington won their 1st playoff game since 2006 because they fired the owner and drafted a great QB.
All I am hearing is a lot of excuses with this panel for Tomlin’s consistent failures.
Mike Tomlin is too good for Pittsburgh and should go to Chicago immediately.
This ESPN group, minus Laura, is the dumbest bunch of bricks I have ever listened to.
Let the massive Mike Tomlin Steelers boycott begin!
Yall know he didn’t have a QB to compete in years but for some reason yall think he should win in the playoffs yall goofy
Steelers went 6-10 the year they picked Big Ben. And it wasn't the middle of the draft. It was pick 11. Get your facts right "0-16 quarterback" DO.
He needs a change of venue.
He.s a good coach that doesn't get enough credit for making subpar steeler teams good
18 years. Zero losing seasons. GET RID OF HIM!!!!! 😂😂😂😂
Are you trying to use reverse psychology on Tomlin?
They need QB blockers/protectors… whatever those positions are called. O-line is slow or tired. They need to add younger, faster & stronger O-Line, WR & RB
The Rooney Rule is Tomlin's guardrail.
The Rooney’s and the Mara’s are very very close families! They are inter married. Do an entire trade of coaching staffs. Giants to Steelers and back! Daboll at the Steelers. Tomlin at the Giants! Win win! 😂
Aaron Rogers is not available? Might be a good fit for the Steelers. As a former Jets fan.. eh, whatever.
Andrew that sound dumb! Tomlin picked Kenny Pickett!! So now he should leave because he didn't prepare for Roethlisberger retirement it's a bed he made now u endorsing him running.
He needs to just go. He doesnt get it his words are getting stale and he doesnt have a Qb.
Why is everything on the qb ? The defense has been trash for years and years ! Thre oline had sucked since mike munchkin left ! No qb wants to play in the burgh the o line is absolutely atrocious
Two words: Jackson Dart!
Eeew
Lost 5 in a row, yep too good.
Ben was drafted 11
The fanbase are clearly spoiled. Eighteen winning seasons and a SB arent enough. The third most wins in the nfl in last 20 years. Let them be a perrenial loser for a while with different coaches. See if that changes their tune. The collective EGO needs to get knocked down a few rungs. They'll wish the had him back.
Tomlin is a good coach, but he is far from a great coach. The culture over there just seems off and tired.
you already have a quarter back whos better than Lamar.Hes a better athlete,he has cannon arm ne needs a chance. Just watch some fields highlights
😂😂😂 yeah he the greatest thing since sliced bread this woke media it’s embarrassing
Saw the title and to came to comment that this has to be the most braindead take ever. 🤦
“He’s to good of a coach to get the QB he needs” stupid statement
Trade for Kirk Cousins. He likes to throw picks!!
Tomblim to the Cowboys 🤔🧐
Where's All These excuses for Mike McCarthy and other long standing recently fired coaches that YALL Mainstream Media use for Mike Tomlin??? 😡
Excuses used for Only Tomin and No other Coaches Ever in History by Media..---->
*GM needs to Mike needs more players
*He's a Great Coach even without Playoff Wins in a decade
*He Overchaved when wins*+ games without a pro bowl QB
*He Needs help ( a new OC/DC coaches
*Its the players not playing good enough's fault
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Well no other longstanding coach has 0 losing records. Certainly not McCarthy who the media is not lambasting currently and who is coming off a losing season lol
@@Zeffpenguin
Add context Sir, McCarthy went 21-5 twice, with Cowboys and this year didnt have a QB (injured) and 3 or 4 of his top defense stars too. again stop talking out of context you're smarter than that.
Now be smart enough to compare McCarthys playoff resume to Tomlins. Remember what's important.
Regular Season or Playoffs
Hopefully Steelers fans see this but Andy Reid couldn't win a playoff game in Kansas city until Patrick mahomes was starting at QB. It's not Tomlin it's the fact he doesn't have a QB that can compete. I know Steelers fans remember their last playoff win it was against Andy Reid and the chiefs in 2016. After that loss chiefs traded for Patrick mahomes and the rest is history. Just give Tomlin a QB and he can win
Andy reidhas a respectableplayoff record prior to mahommes
@spoonsz no his plays are boring every play is run run pass
Andy Reid is an offensive minded coach. Tomlin is not. Tomlin had an elite offensive for 5 plus years and had 3 playoff wins. You need offensive minded coaches in today’s NFL.
Justin Fields better off going to Ravens and trying to learn from Lamar.
2nd round pick to Lions for Hendon Hooker
Rather than another backup tier QB that could maybe workout I’d rather they resign Fields or pick up Darnold. Higher chance of working out
Trade up fields and Wilson to get shedur 😂😂😂😂. Tsss I wish my Steelers always fumble it come playoffs🥲
lol they’d need way more than that to get a pick that nets them Shedeur