MYTHS, LEGENDS, AND GODS - Terrible Writing Advice
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In the beginning, the author created the world and went on and on and on about it. Now the lore threatens the very plot itself as the gods overrun the narrative turning our brave heroes into mere side characters in their own story. All thanks to Terrible Writing Advice showing writers how to incorporate myths, legends and gods into their story.
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You know, seeing how the Greeks had some minor unknown god for every minor feeling (that you've probably never heard of, because in the stories, they only ever mention the major Olympians), if they had known about the periodic table, they definitely would have created a god for every single damn element.
they had a type of nymph for every enviornemnt imaginable too
don't forget Zeus' unending supply of demigod spawn
@@roguepsykerhaaker4813 do you mean every environment imaginable in Greece, the Mediterranean and the known world?
@@SlapstickGenius23 yes, I suppose I do
Yeah, minor deities were always cool... Psyche, Hypnos, Metis, Nike, Balerion....
The Goddes of Corruption should have "Notably Absent Dominions: Clothes"
the Kardashinites
Their motto for armor: "Bikinis, take it or leave it."
Scott Mantooth
Even Slaneesh wouldn’t want to touch them with a mile-long pole.
Then again, Slaanesh is basically what their beholders see, so they could be either prawnhub premium stuffs, offbrand, or deviantart.
Perfect for R34 so that people can retain their interest in something long after its relevance.
“Thoughtful critique of organized religion is pretty rare in fiction.” FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT
They're also pretty rare in our reality.
@@LeriHunter lets be real whenever there is thoughtful critique of religion, it's banned no matter which religion it is
Pratchett small gods- I am sorry but I exist...
Fire Emblem Three Houses had such a refreshing view on religion overall which is nice.
@@iksskan9147 it's usualy banned if it's thoughtful, but not if its callous and 1 sided.
Where is the god of the LOVE TRIANGLE, mate?!
Yeah, but even Cupid cannot eacape the love triangle, even if that is his power.
I guess Cupid enjoy the process of being cucked.
One day I'll make one for a fanfic for funsies.
No one less than the terriying JP, even chuthulu is under his cruel clutches.
It was the fourth god jp talked about. He just forgot to mention that aspect of him.
The love triangle IS god!
BEHOLD! My GOD OF LOVE!
*triangle descends from Heavens*
Ah, it burns!!!!
No audience is safe. We must all hide until the Mary Sue became the chosen one.
How do you always end up in the top commenta even when you aren't pinned and don't have a bunch of likes? Are people just searching through the entire comments section until they find your comment?
When are you gonna do a crossover with Justin Y?
How are you everywhere?
Albert: Miss Leela I have a question
Leela: Yes Albert?
Albert: That story was bad
Leela: That really wasn't a question
Albert: That really wasn't a story
I really like Rick Riordan’s mythology... he’s not claiming to write his own mythology, so he’s not plagiarizing god archetypes. However, he modifies his mythology to fit the modern day (Hermes being a UPS driver, the Mist, monsters, etc). He takes these archetypes and modernizes them, which is really refreshing and interesting.
Also he does not fall into the pit of turning the moral complex gods all good or all evil
Wait, you mean people DON'T smother their food in Cayenne pepper until it tastes like nothing else? Shit, I've been doing it wrong then
I legitimately love the design you have for the Trickster God.
He reminds me of Nethys
@@CountVine Hey glad I wasn't the only one reminded of old Nethy
Reminds me of an Eldar Harlequin from 40k.
Olidamarra, anyone?
No religion is complete without one.
How could you forget sexy elf lady who only wears leaves and stuff for the nature god
A naiad or a dryad?
I thought those were nymphs. Or are they the human women who dress like that in worship of a naiad or dryad?
Don’t forget another of the big ones;
Always make the gods-*especially* ones based off real world mythologies and religions-such unlikeable jackasses, it’s really a wonder why people choose to worship them. Especially if said gods *need* worship to exist period.
Why do mortals worship such abusive, maybe even monstrous deities? Could it be because, despite their flaws, the gods still have good sides to them? Could there be complex theological arguments that state what humans might see as bad is actually good in the end? Do the gods and there worshippers provide a mutual purpose to one another and therefore justify each other’s existence?
Of course not! The worshippers worship the gods... because of power or because the story says so!
At least, you know, until the heroes decide to commit divine genocide against the pantheon in the name of “freeing humans from the gods.”
PsionicsKnight in all fairness, the Greek gods, according to most myths, are just, the biggest assholes.
Prometheus is the real MVP of Greek mythology.
Percy Jackson
But Luke's prospective
Humanity: We killed the Gods! Beings who governed all things beyond Mortal reach and kept nearly all mythical creatures like dragons and demons and cosmic horrors in check!
**Reality starts warping, Hell and Heaven collapse into the Material plane, Azzothoth shows up, and chocolate starts eating people**
Humanity: 👁👄👁
The thing is, Yahweh is in fact an extremely abusive and monstrous deity if you actually read the Bible. (all of it, not just the nice parts) And yet, countless people still believe in and worship Yahweh because they think he’s good. The truth is that humans often can and do believe in irrational things for irrational reasons. Also, if something can be killed by humans, then does it really deserve to be called a God?
@@BLZ231 the status of god is more a combination of power and worship than anything else really, so much so that many cultures have their leaders being worshiped as gods.
As long as gods have power, and they are worshiped for whatever reason, that's all they need to... be.
one way to think about it is to say that when a mortal kills a god, all they really did was destroy the current incarnation of that god. if given enough time(which might for example be seconds for a god whose worship is extremely widespread but centuries for one that is almost completely unknown outside a specific place) a new incarnation of that god would simply come to be.
Whether that new incarnation is the same "person"(air quotes since most of the time gods aren't really people) with the same memories and personality or a completely different entity is another question.
Maybe it's dependent on how people remember them(since they are powered by worship, in this case), so if all of their core myths and legends are still remembered the same way they where before the god died(perhaps again because the god only stayed dead for a few seconds due to massive worship) they reincarnate the same "person" with the same memories, but the longer it takes more and more is lost as legends are changed and forgotten and the cultural context in which the god originally existed slowly changes or fades away, until after some point the new god of X is a completely different entity.
there's also a really easy way to justify people worshiping gods in any setting where magic is a thing(and if there's gods but no magic then WTF): worshiping a god might give you access to divine magic(like the clerics of D&D), so even if you don't agree with your good of choice at everything, it might be a matter of life and death to have enought people that worship whatever god gifts healing magic around so a single pandemic doesn't kill everyone or whatever else.
You've forgotten about the strongest God there is... *THE GOD OF LOVE TRIANGLES* (Dun Dun Duuunnnn)!!!
Aphrodite...
@@jacobbenns6090 I thought she was the goddess of putting out.
@@hariman7727
She's definitely also the Goddess of Shipping.
And what else is Goddess of Corruption?
@@hariman7727 fair nuff...
God of Justice who acts like Internal Affairs for the whole freaking pantheon! (For better or for worse!)
That's actually a pretty cool idea.
@@lordlames1496 Thank you!
@Christopher Stanley Sounds like a question of whether he's approved of by the actual texts or not. Which could be a matter of who in the world you're asking.
@Christopher Stanley Either way, if he ever disappears the whole pantheon will be on fire within the week
Lhankor Mhy from Dragonpass has interesting aspect.
You can file a lawsuit against the ghost to stop haunting a house.
God of Magic accidentally breaks magic and contracts the heroes to help fix it.
I'd read it.
Or the villain becomes the God of Magic and killing him makes all magic disappear.
@@Janoha17 You know that is the plot of The Lord Of The Rings? This is why the elves have to go away from Middle Earth.
@@killgriffinnow I was actually referring to Final Fantasy VI.
@@killgriffinnow I am fairly certain that Sauron is not the god of magic, particularly in that he isn't really a god. Regardless from what I gather it is more a case of elves just not coexisting well in the world made flawed by Melkor.
So me and my friends were coming up with crack Gods for our roleplay and we got some crazy things... Brie, the Goddess of Cheese and her girlfriend the Goddess of Goats were some of my favourites. Not to mention how one of them was called Voldemort, the God of Death. This is the best roleplay I’ve done.
I gotta say roleplay on crack is the best one
I got one, Luka or Ervin which is the god of magic
we call it the "Skip cutscene" button, unfortunately not every story has invented it yet
I've zoned out for pages upon pages of lore in fantasy books. Pretty sure that's the equivalent.
I have to say, this is the only channel where I see that the ad at the end is three minutes long and I get excited.
The ad is introduced so smoothly with the rest of the video that i most of the time fall for it, and end up watching it.
I've said it before. I really appreciate your effort to make the sponsored content actually entertaining. Keep up the good work
Those little chocolate mints in hotels, the abridged series
TWA: "No members of that culture are left alive to sue me."
Neo-Hellenists: "Allow us to introduce ourselves."
Ha, it's still public domain!
all religions are
Those exist?
@@spectroelectro3772 Yes they do. Although I ain;t one.
Lore doesn't have to be dense. It just needs to be consistent.
Damn this takes me back. When I was in high school we had to make a creation myth for my writing class and I came up with my pantheon of Gods. Now this is going to sound cringe I know, but it at the very least made sense and still makes sense in my head. Each of there were 24 god each represented by the Chinese Zodiac. Now I hear you saying, "But there are only 12 animals in the Chinese Zodiac!" Well I had 24 because for every God there was a dark reflection. I had a good god of Fire and Death and so on and a evil God of fire and death. Each representing the good and the bad things of each element, or whatever. It was a lot of fun and I'd love to revisit it someday.
That actually sounds kind of cool.
That actually sounds lovely. Simple, but there really isn't a need to try to outperform Egypt's 2700 years of history. Just not being cliché as fuck about it.
The Good vs Evil angle as been done a lot so, maybe a different angle here might work
It's more interesting than just "lone god R the villain", "Light and darkness are at war!", or "pantheon of dysfunction only surpassed by Hollywood. Not movies from Hollywood... just Hollywood in general."
@@nulllex0099 Yeah Like I said I haven't touch the idea in a very, very long time so if I ever came back to it I would have to think about more some changes. Then again I didn't know it at the time by the myth was very Tao, you know trying to find balance in all things. So maybe I'll keep that. Who knows.
@@owenslaughter9438 I wish you the best, kind stranger. I'd also say that as long as you're having fun creating what you want, that's good enough, but the point of channels like this is to inspire us to go the extra mile.
My novel has a goddess of death also represents life and is good. Each deity in my fantasy pantheon represent aspects of their world. The god of treachery and goddess chaos of are mad gods who are at odds with the world itself. I flesh out rituals and the religions. My gods became gods by casting off their individuality and submitting to fate to fain their full power, and my god of magic and goddess of fertility knew eachother in life and became gods to be with their respective lovers who were killed by the god of war, whom they also knew in life. The god of the forge is the combination of a military leader and his engineer wife. They were combined into one being in their ascent. I don’t fall into any of these pitfalls. Love your videos m8.
Ads caused the Bronze Age collapse...
Seems legit
Dammn greeks and their "population-goverment"
@@coldmossonarock7743 don't blame the Greeks it was those damn Persian's fault
Ronjay Rose the Persians weren’t even a thing when the Bronze Age collapsed.
The Elder Scrolls does this really well. For example, Arkay of the Nine Divines is the god of the *cycle* of life *and* death. It doesn't relegate the perhaps distasteful aspect to some evil god, but incorporates it within a natural process of nature to be the god's whole aspect.
Yeah i was saying it to myself the whole video. Just number of daedric princess is maybe too much since some seems like kinda useless to me. But cthulhu... i mean herma mora or sheo are very good.
@@manaeth I always felt the Daedra deal more with emotional and mental issues. They lack any connection with the physical world but all spirits, both mortal and immortal, share a mind. Thus they can manifest through those. Madness, domination, knowledge, fear, etc.
@@mormacil yeah.
0:45 that pantheon actually looks really badass
A funny twist would be
- war guy's the weird political uncle
- the two women are sisters representing orthodoxy and rebelliousness, but neither are exactly evil or cruel
- jesterman's the chaotic uncle. sometimes he's a good guy, sometimes he burns orphanages
- justiceman's kind of a pretentious dick, would be interesting as a father to the two girls.
- the "dark lord" is, well, the kinda dickish cousin
- forge dude's like that sick grandpa
- and nature creature's his divorced bitch of a wife.
And the whole thing's basically gonna be a divine family sitcom, with random incredibly emotional events to hit the audience harder than that one time squidward thought he gave spongebob a nitroglycerin laced pie so he accompanied him for the "last day" of his life, as a friend, and actually cried when sponge "died in a fiery explosion"
"a pantheon of the Periodic Table of Elements would be WAY too big."
dude... moment of inspiration.
Once, every ten thousand years, when the stars align and the barriers between worlds weaken, the dark god reaches forth his corrupting influence and afflicts us all with a new magical picture that spreads powerful knowledge. Knowledge which drives mortal men to madness and collapses whole empires in a day. Today... Is not that day... but it _is_ a close second.
It's always great when another one of these videos drop.
The knights speach impediment reminded me of Isaac Arthur ( another awesome youtuber ) .
Edit : his channel is his name .
3:02
This makes me think of Coatlicue from Aztec mythology. She’s different from other goddess in this department in that she was decapitated and TWO HUGE SNAKES grew in place of her head.
Honestly in a lot of the stories that I write the "Creation story" is that I wrote the story and the world exists because I wrote it.
I did mine as well but the god of good and the god of evil are just two gods going on the bet about how would humans react to demon invasions and basically humanity vs fate.
A fun twist for a story would be that the hero realized that they whole world's existence and major conflict is just a cosmic board game between the gods.
That was the cleanest ad transition I’ve ever seen. High tier shilling
I wonder if TWA will start giving us tips on how to Write Anime?
Like the Isekai Fantasy Genre (in another world). That's ba REAL popular one now.
Hey, I know, Let's have the Main Character Mary Sue get trapped in a Video Game!
"thinks Undertale was overrated"
SO EVIL!!
I wanna see eldritch lovecraftian monstrosities vs olympian knockoffs.
6:41 greak gods: you know it
Hi . I absolutely love your videos and would like to make a request. Can you do pirates?
oh no lol, I love using mythology or creating gods for my stories, I feel like I may take a hit haha
4:11 you know i now kinda want to see a story were the hero does choose the evil empress/goddess over the generic love interest, I'm really curious as to how that would/could possibly play out
Did he... did he take the bit at the end from Bonds Beyond Time abridged? The lisp, the whole “ads (or card games) destroyed the world” motif. If so, kudos. It’s transformative and funny
All right, that's it, I'm going to create a universe with a periodic Pantheon of elementals
In my world, the champions of the Gods build the storylines, because the quests they’re sent on create the plots of the world.
I’ve been working on a story for a while, which involves a god of death who isn’t a bad guy, but more of a neutral force. The bad ones are famine, gluttony, and disease since those are far more outward forces in life than death, which always comes eventually.
one good example of creation myth: the dot hack franchise. the first four games begin with a poem, which turns out to be the actual real life creator of the mmo the characters play. the actual story behind the game being made is only found out as you go along as, because it's tied to that game's real life developers, the characters dont actually know much about it. all they know is that the main developer designed the mmo as a tribute to a dead poet, and the poem that inspired him is the one that plays in the beginning of the games. that poem, by itself, is already more than the players know, since people only really come across fragments of it, due to lack of backwards compatability with older file formats.
oh, and because the setting is an inuniverse mmo, of course what they do is gonna end up being part of the myth in the next part of the series. it also has a good reason for why so much of the myth is inaccurate in the next part. what happened in the series is what actually happened, and the way it is told as lore in the next part is the cover story.
I think one thing that could be done that I don't see a lot of fantasy settings do is maybe make a monotheistic setting. There could be one God, but he has angel like beings that work for him.
Nurgle from Warhammer/40k is described as a "nature god," and he is thought of as evil because he DOESN'T fob off stuff like decay, carrion-eating animals, and illnesses (including parasites) on another god. The only way to get new life is for something else to die, compost/be eaten, and nurture the next generation; if they're strong enough to take over that niche in the ecosystem. He's actually quite mellow and even pleasant, giving out loads of gifts (read: nasty illnesses that his worshippers get superpowers from, like a healing factor based on injured tissues producing cancer, rather than scar tissue). A lot of his power comes from people just living, eating, reproducing, dying, and rotting to nurture the crops for their grandchildren, and taking comfort in that cycle.
"And Seath the Scaleless betrayed his own, and the dragons were no more..."
"Excuse me, why does that one dragon look like a butterfly and have no legs?"
"Oh... well in the beginning, of the prequel trilogy I'm just remembering..."
Hmmm, I recently made a few gods for a world of mine. They are a bunch of arguing politicians.
Yes! I'm all about the charts. Let's see... so I have a god of aether and obscure, hyper-violent 80s anime. I'm not sure how to make that work, but the dice have never steered me wrong before.
As a vikingboo japan's and the US appropriation of norse mythology hurts me physically
0:20 the calendar has only 6 days per week
Oh, those poor, foolish villains. Don't they realize the war is already won?
None can conquer the almighty Love Triangle-- that includes you, death/destruction diety.
But what if I bring about the God of Common Sense and Monogamy?! The love triangles would end and the spare characters would get paired with each other! Shipping would cease! The world would end in a festival of marriages and happiness! How can this be?!
@@hariman7727 My god...
The universe could implode! The Love Triangle would take down with it whatever it could! Prophecies, comic relief characters, eldritch horrors, anti-heroes, rivals... anything and everything would be at risk!
Interesting that Pathfinder subverts pretty much all of these stereotypes except maybe the goddess of justice. Nethys the God of Magic is the funniest subversion in that he not only has a personality, but also has TWO personalities.
The Stormlight Archive has almost all of these tropes but they’re so wrapped in mystery and revealed so gradually you almost forget how cliche they are
Funny thing, the dark colour pallete thing I actually did for a god that wasn't actually evil, and is a god of both war and oaths/contracts, who actively involves himself and the long-dead champions whose souls went to his realm in military operations to protect his living followers and those who oppose the actual evil gods (of which there are plenty, but there are also a large amount of good gods too). And yes, said god of war has champions from a very long period in history, meaning that parts of his army are Neolithic, all the way up to sci-fi, but the bulk of said army are either Bronze Age, medieval, around the setting's equal to WW1, or sci-fi, which brings rise to rather interesting tactics, especially since these champions are technically immortal and just get sent back to said god's realm to "respawn" (at the expense of some power).
So in other words, I tried to combine the archetypes, flip some into something unexpected, and think of how having such a strange army composition would affect tactics.
A lot of fictional pagan religions are nothing like real ones: in Greek and Roman traditions, there were gods not just sitting on Mount Olympus and not even just for rivers and forests, but for individual _households._ Pagan religions in fiction (my own future works included) often involve a much smaller pantheon while the other gods usually don't exist. This is fair to some extent: a world with thousands or millions of minor gods would cause a lot of confusion and require some interesting changes to your worldbuilding. In fact, your world would have to be something like what the pagans thought it was: see, pagans viewed their gods not as loving creators, but as indifferent superior forces of nature that could end your life at a whim or grant you great gifts. However, even receiving a gift from the gods might end in terrible tragedy the way it did for almost all of the mythological heroes. You could see pagan religion as a way to gain favor with the universe so that you wouldn't get mauled by wild animals on your next trip through the forests or drowned in the ocean on your next voyage through the sea.
If you're going to write a realistic pagan religion, I recommend showing your gods not in the best light, even the precious fertility goddess. Remember, it was Demeter who decided to take her sadness out on the entire world by throwing it into eternal winter because Hades stole her daughter Persephone. However, despite the decadence and immoral actions of your gods, your characters should never dare to criticize them for a single moment.
If you're going to write a religion with a single God god with the same distant nature as _the_ God, I would personally recommend taking a more philosophical approach instead of trying to piece together a religion from various Baptist/Catholic sermons. Various philosophical authors from the Abrahamic religions aside, learning about Socrates' monotheistic god is fascinating no matter your background and can help you if you're trying to make a monotheistic god that's somewhat different from God as portrayed by modern Western Christian culture.
In Mortal kombat the goddess of nature/Virtue/fertility is evil which caught me off guard
Watching this video helps me to appreciate the lore of other fictional universes like the Elder Scrolls which goes really in-depth and is unique enough to stand apart from more generic fantasy settings.
"No romance author alive has ever topped the ridiculous love triangles found in mythology"
Love him or hate him, he's speaking straight fax
KT Zone this sounds like a challenge...
Loki had a child with a male 8 legged horse.
Moon-Vo!d
He was raped, I doubt that was part of his plan.
@@mobeenkhan824 Who knows what plans a man playing tug of war with his balls tied to a goat's beard would come up with.
Loki is loco.
@@Soridan true😂😂😂
"Who are you?"
"I am Choklita. Goddess of Hotel Mints."
And dead memes. Can’t forget dead memes.
@@Fluffkitscripts Um, his name is shrek get it right. XD
@@Fluffkitscripts oh my god. I just realized, your name... MAH HEART MAH SOUL!!!!
+RequiemPoete I love it! I want to use Choklita in my book that I'm writing! May I? I know it's a stupid joke, but I'd still like to ask first before I just write her in.
Let me specify. I want to use her name. The concept is probably free realestate, but you came up with the name. So, can I use this name for the hotel mint goddess in my story?
When making gods for my D&D campaign I ironically got so caught up making the fertility goddess and fleshing out her religion with rituals, holidays and behavioural guidelines for followers that I had troubles topping it when working on gods that the players are more likely to actually care about. What can I say, I'm a sucker for coming up with my own seasonal festivities...
D and D campaign Make good story tellers when they get caught up in the game plus you can cash it out
You could've solved that by just having a monotheistic pantheon/religion centered around your fertility goddess.
Wait a minute... I remember you! I hope you are getting better, your new vids are great man.
In my campaign I wanted to have a set of psychopomps for flavor if someone died, I decided to make the goddess of seasons, fertility, the harvest, and such things act as an impartial psychopomp. The one who allows the weather to freeze life over should also be the one who reaps the souls whose mortal coils where killed by the frost and hunger of the winter.
I did that with my War God and Nature God, neither are what you'd expect.
Then one of my players wanted to worship the God of light... and all the others were atheists.
I put so much work into that, eventually they engaged with what I made and the campaign later ended. (I fleshed the rest out through game time) one of the players sat in the DM seat for a new campaign and just used my pantheon.
Glad he liked it.
"You look like a renaissance fair got raided by anarcho-communists!"
This got me
Turns out that olde days combat tactics are useful in riots actually. The art of getting into formation to hit people with sticks never gets old.
Graknorke humans just developed better sticks, think about it guns are just sticks that throw rocks really fast
@@ayindephulgence4950 yeah this is big brain
@@ayindephulgence4950 fantastic analogy
Low-casualty melee combat tactics don’t really get better than formations of heavily armored guys with blunt objects and shields.
"No love story can top the ones made by mythology"
*looks over at all the kids Zeus made because he's also the god of one night stands*
Yeah, fair point
Love triangle*
@@real_nosferatu traingle? Love FREACIN DODECAHEDRON sounds way closer to Zeus ambitions)
lord over Love Triangles don’t have 46 sides
Zeus isn't in a "love triangle" he IS the triangle
He's the god of rape.
Oh boy I can't wait to hear about the gods of light and darkness for the umpteenth time
Set *cough* RWBY *cough*
I want there to be a story with the god of like, mildly heavy rain
I don't get those gods, by definition, if you control Light, you also control Darkness and vice versa
@@Gamebuilder2000 Think of it like "God Of The Letter.And Number Keys" and "The God Of Backspace". In essence, the Light God can only up the brightness, not drop it, and the reverse for Darkness God.
@@youtubeuniversity3638 Don't Forget his other Domain of delete button for deleting the forward letters.
I have a better advice: "Just steal everything from Tolkien". Works every time!
The Great War inspired it
@mozamioo _ Well tonnes of it was inspired by history and Norse mythology. I'm more impressed with him creating languages.
@@seandewell9319 Anybody can create a langauge just based it off a real language and just slightly make it different
@@seandewell9319 languages can be inspired by other languages too. and tbh we do have several constructed languages like Na'vi, Klingon, Toki Pona, Esperanto.
@@tldoesntlikebread Still impressive making a functioning language
Zeus is pretty much the love polygon itself.
Nigga's a love galaxy.
Then he complains about betrayal from his lovers and crap. Oh look a new war over the horizon.
Zeus is scumbag, but ignorant authors always present him as good guy in opposition to his brother Hades being evil (while actual Hades was more good guy with scary job)
Zeus is a love black hole.
must be a summer thing
Some JRPG: The Goddesses of LIGHT and DARKNESS... HAD A FIGHT
Me: **Gasp** No!
So, two goddesses started duking it out?
...does this qualify as a cat fight?
@@whatisupmyfellowamericans8808 Only if they are hot, so I put odds on yes.
90% of other RPGs: God's the villain, his church is corrupt, and you'll kill him by the end. Also 87% likely to be an expy of Christianity.
.000000001%... actual good lone God of a world.
@@hariman7727 Japan does not have a good history with Christianity..
Wait, there's more!
Actually... I kinda really like the idea of every chemical element having a new god.
"Noble gases, you get back here! Quit ignoring everyone."
"Ugh, Hydrogen and Oxygen are together again. Don't let Carbon know or we'll have another planet with life."
"Who's this? Moscovium who? Oh, those pesky humans made another element...."
Has this been an anime yet? Sounds like it would have been
@@grahamtpeterson closest I've seen was a very bizarre video in like grade 8 chemistry. I genuinely could see this being one now you mention it though
@@coryman125
The plot would be about trying to stop some cult from creating their own god by adding more protons and neutrons together so they can... I dunno, get irradiated?
@@PengyDraws maybe it's an experiment to see if there is a connection between the number of protons/neutrons an element has and the power of that element's god?
The complicated science is the reason why nobody has done this
Gods for each element of the Periodic Table would make sense in a culture ruled by chemists :)
That would be such a sick idea with elementary particles as like elder gods or something
or where the gods are actual beings inside the rules of the universe and are subject to the confines of matter.
1d4chan made a periodic table of dragons. It’s a pretty fun read.
Using the German names? All hail Wasserstoff!
Hmmm, how about there is a set of gods that shift over a generation. The second generation of god were chosen to unscrew the mistake previous group did, it works but only problem is Isekai is now politically unstable so they get the MC to do a hitman job for them instead.
Best Creation Lore:
“In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.”
Best explanation of deities:
“Our gods are dead. Ancient Klingon warriors slew them a millennia ago. They were more trouble than they were worth.”
The second one’s from Star Trek, right? May I ask where the first one is from?
Kane Chronicles basically but they're like
Wait no we need the goods help don't kill us were saving you
With all the groups who have misused religion to justify evil since religion was invented, I'm starting to think the Klingons had the right idea.
@@florenceb1031 Technically, yes. But the 20th Century kinda showed that the opposite standing does exactly the same thing (on a bigger scale), so misusing atheism to justify evil is just as common it seems.
@@mirrond44 You do realize it was a joke, right?
Why is the god of death always evil? I’d figure that Death’d be chill. Why should death care about anything? He/she’ll win in the end.
The Void Looks Pretty
that'd be really cool actually
Read Sandman bro death is just a cute goth chick
notstorm that’s fair.
More then that: he/she is just doing their job.
@@notstorm208 Marvel's death is a hot skeleton lady
'no romance author alive has ever topped the ridiculous love triangles found in mythology'
...is that a challenge, JP?
also imagine going to camp half-blood and finding out your dad is the god of chocolate mints in hotels
Oh dude I'd be SO excited tbh. Love those things.
If that means you can eat them endlessly and not get fat or heartburn from that count me down my man, that sounds perfect
*ZUES WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION*
What if a god of hatred got imprisoned by a love dodecahedron made of gods?
@@Laff700 and them having to maintain it in order to keep said god imprisoned. and the war that breaks out after the dodecahedron gets broken. you would then however have to explain why the god of hatred is powerful enough to need to get sealed away, but whatevs
I'm actually mildly interested in a Periodic Table theology system now. Major elements can be gods/goddesses while more complex elements can be demigods.
and explain why particular elements are never invited to the really important cosmic deity mixers as they are just too unstable or react violently when in close proximity with others due to long standing arguments that have festered for eons
Damn yeah. Hydrogen as the great cosmic creator who is weak on themselves but really powerful with any other god? Lithium as goddess of electric storage but also patron goddess of people with bipolar disorder? Carbon as the incredibly variable trickster but ultimately benvolent? Just my few ideas as chemistry student
I imagine the pantheon of non-metals as lusty gods that give birth to powerful aberrations they use in war. While metals have more raw power but are less versatile and sometimes have hybrids with the first pantheon. Unwanted by everyone but being the key to many important reactions. These hybrids are hunted in an inquisition disguised as evil-puryfing but actually is a resource gathering.
Plutonium farted loudly
everyone died the end
Oh my gosh. That's really cool.
Forge Deity who doesn't *use* a forge, but *is* a forge. The literal forge itself is the deity, not the user of it!
Maybe the _real_ forge is the deity we worshipped along the way!
the omnissiah?
@@flexprime2010
*Praise the machine god!*
But you can't make a forge without an anvil, and you can't make an anvil without an anvil...
@@tach5884 how was the first anvil made
Don’t forget that the Goddess of Light (because the good guy’s God is always female or their dad, no in betweens) is juuuust powerful enough to give the hero advice/help but not powerful enough to do anything herself with *no explanation whatsoever*
Had a counter example in what internet called an "art" media.
To summarize, try imagining how someone would be if they could directly intervene to protect their creation against what's evil.
Good, but don't forget since SHE's the goddess of light, she defines what's evil.
"The goddess is weakened, she needs a hero to vanquish the dark god of destruction (which for some reason has 90% of being male), a guy born in a lost town forgotten by everyone and who, through only his will and strength (cough* godly power ups *cough* ridiculous legendary weapons just lying there for him to pick them *cough* power of friendship *cough* antagonist who let him live for no reason when he was a baby while slaughtering is entire family *cough* probably one resurrection *cough*) will be able to do it"
Seriously I hate the plot armor abuse. That's why I like Berserk. You never feel like the protagonist is "chosen" or has insane luck or blessing. That's how those stories should be written.
Raava from LoK
MisterTwister TES has pretty decent explanation- good Gods used up much of their energy in process of creating the world, while darker ones were chilling
And why can't the good guys'god be both female AND their dad?
Unrelated joke:
Imagine you and your colleagues spending your entire lives building giant pyramids only for people from future to think it was some creatures from outer space to build said pyramids.
I will give you one better
- All rejoice for I Urgh have invented a plow. This will change the future of civilisation itself and all future generations will speak name Urgh with reverence till the end of all time
One year later
- Thank the gods for the plow!
- Wait...what?
@@JM-mh1pp ... wtf's a plow?
@@lqu kinda like a farming thing
I wonder if creatures from outer space did at one point come here.
SerbianSlav
And thinking you were slaves to boot.
Well, the bubonic plague is theorized to have traveled down the silk road. The silk road was a trade route (actually a series of trade routes, but, you know). Given how it was a traderoute, it would've included ads.
So there.
Also the tartars that were besieging kaffa could have sent "please surrender" ads attached to infected bodies. Then the genoans ran back in italy, and the rest is history
Didn't the Scottish bring the Bubonic Plague home after having the brilliant idea of attacking Plague weakened Britain, sounds like the dubious work of ads in my opinion... I mean what else would tip off the Scots?
@@temporaneo617 Isn't... all of it history?
@@mezz09smezzanine shit you got me!😲
There are are only three things that are certain about life: death, taxes, and advertisements.
Make sure you make these unstoppable gods be treated like just another enemy that the hero can simply power up to defeat just like all his previous foes, which does not give the title a hollow meaning.
Dont forget to regret killing the death God causing nothing to die! (Causing nothing to die alongside the regret that comes from that is optional)
Did you say *God of War?*
Strangely, that is real world myth accurate. Odin and Loki were defeated and captured by two brothers in the Fafnir story (the brothers are described as either normal or wizards depending on which you read), and Jacob was smacking around either Yahweh or an angel so badly that it had to punch him in "the hollow of the thigh" out of panic. Diomedes badly injures both Aphrodite and Ares in the Illiad just by stabbing them.
There also was that one greek story where some asshole locked Thanos (the ferryman guy, not the Purple People Deleter) and then tricked Hades to let him back out the first time by forcing his wife to just toss his corpse outside... Damn my memory of names >,
@@gratuitouslurking8610 Sisyphus
Where's the hero of legend that ascended to God hood and may or may not be an ancestor of the current protagonist
Damn faithless Imperials.
@@plaidpvcpipe3792 We all serve Talos!
@@plaidpvcpipe3792 Don't let your hate towards the empire distract you from the fact that the true enemy is the Aldmeri Dominion.
Shht, I'm gonna use that.
ELVEN SUPREMACY IS THE ONLY TRUTH!!!
Remember, my fellow hack authors. We aren't J. R. R. Tolkein, no matter how much we want to rip him off.
And I see what you did there, placing the fertility goddess in a triangle with the gods of war and the forge.
Mythology nod.
This hurts so much, but it is the fact
Who the hell would want to be J.R.R. Tolkein in the first place? His stories suck and are a horrible template.
@@CryosisOfficial Have you ever read the Silmarillion?
@@owlblocksdavid4955 No and I never will.
"Goddess of fertility, birth, cultivation and ladyness." You made me snort my coffee.
“Why have a good story when you can have... the mystery box?!”
- J. J. Abrams, probably
'What are stories BUT mystery boxes?'
-JJ Abrams actually said this
@@killgriffinnow Yep. It's such a stupid stance.
@@inciaradible7144 Well it depends how you see it. Whenever you pick up a story, even after a short synopsis, you don't necessarily know how it's gonna turn out. Some stories sounds great but turn out to be disappointing while others you decide to read because you've got nothing better turns out to be much better than you expected. It's all about how the story is developed over time. Does it start to stagnate? Does it follow in a different but logical direction? You don't know until you read it so yeah, I can sort of see what he meant when he said that. Doesn't excuse shitty writing though.
@Chase Moore Hence why it's no excuse for what he does.
nothing like a mystery box...LOVE TRIANGLE!!!!
I’m writing a book called “The Elves That Died for Constantinople”. It’s self-explanatory.
Lmao
im super sorry but this title gives off the same energy as "the hated child that became a princess"
@@oncreativemode5486 I mean ur not wrong. I gave up on it awhile ago
Istanbul is constantinople, istanbul is constantinople, the elves know why but they're deadddd
Sounds amazing!!!
In other words always use the Greco-Roman, Egyptian and or Norse pantheon as default. It's not like other mythologies exsist. -Celtic, Maya and Aztec, Babylonian, Assyrian, Slavic-
Never forget Americans can't think beyond 3rd grade history X-x
Please, Smite and SMT are the only things that care about those things, and even smite doesn't care! XD
Dont dare to use a godess with more domains like war fertility, justice, political power and love in one. Or as interesting, two gods being rivals in the same domain, that totally didnt exist in the greek-roman pantheon.
@houseofjax’s Animations My dude, I lost faith in humanity a long-ass time ago. Cheers.
Greco-Roman, Norse, Celtic and all these European mythologies are all cut from the same Indo-European pantheon, anyways.
Good writing advice?
Nah that's just a myth
Oh, good.
I was afraid that I'd seen it under my bed the other night. No more nightmares for me!
Yeah but she's MY Miss (cookie to whoever gets this obscure reference)
"The pantheon of the periodic table of elements would be way too big"
Shinto gods: Are we a joke to you?
(Supposedly there are 8 million of them)
@@axiomostanes I heard the Hindus have 31 Million Gods
@@zyanego3170 330 million actually
@@axiomostanes Hinduism: Pathetic
@@mvalthegamer2450 Wow!
Ah, perfect timing! Just when I was having an existential crisis due to my crippling boredom and loneliness!
Perfectly relatable
Don't worry it'll arise again when the video ends.
MountainFox51 sadly, you were correct.
STOP CLIMBING MY FUCKING CHAT-BUILDING
Literally me, I thought I was alone
I never understood why nature is always depicted as something peaceful and gentle when the entire point of nature is survival of the fittest
NO ONE SUSPECTS DEATH BY GRASS OVERLORD
Then you have Warhammer where the closest thing to the god of nature is Nurgle who loves spreading plagues, decay and death, becouse from destruction of one life, a new emerges (like bacteria or flies)
Yay. It's because nature gods are pretty much always female because it's the way weave done it since as far back as myths seem to go. The problem is this means feminity is ascribed to nature, which makes it vulnerable to a cultures perception of feminity, and even (and particularly) those in western society who claim to champion women as more then elegant princesses still perceive them as such. Such people aught to remember the quote "hell hath no fire like a woman scorned".
Just as an aside Roman myth actually had an interesting take on such things, Venus, of instance despite being a goddess of love, beauty, and sex was also (to a minor extent) a war goddess. Basically the idea is love includes love of country, and beauty includes the beauty of Roma (and lets be honest theirs something attractive about female rage, that reads in an odd way, but I digress).
yeah its just the *rules of nature*
Because nature can be gentle and serene. That sunny glen full of bunnies and wildflowers is a real thing after all. Sure, it might also hide hawks that could tear apart one of the bunnies. Or a nest of rattlesnakes. The point is...
Nature has many moods and demands respect. Even when it's full of flowers, rainbows and cute baby critters.
Damn, just started with a new story and already made my first mistake. Instead of me, the author, just dumping legends into the prologue I let one of the local main characters talk about one of their legends to a traveller and planned to mention more myths and legends just bit by bit over the course of the story. Quick, I need a way how to solve this issue or at least draw attention away from it! Uh... uh... love triangle! With the local, the traveller and ... the author since I don't have any third character yet!
A love triangle with the narrator sounds interesting.
Me too but change that to the main character/narrator's governess , bits from diary entries and a conversation she had over tea with a very important character (though a few decades older than they were during the main portion of the book)
Well at least you realised and now are changing it. That's the first step to greatness. Good luck brother 👍
Can we take the time to appreciate how the evil AI overlord was somehow able to leave the room, despite being literally tied to it
can we have a god of justice that's literally just an AI that read every single court recording?
@@PengyDraws I know this is late, but... that is GENIUS!!!! :D
Y'know, come to think of it, being a god of justice would be pretty darn boring...
The Knights of Artistic Integrity's monologue was long enough for the AI to redesign it's hardware for mobility
He just hopped to a different server.
The power of ads, man. The power of ads.
Zeus has you beat, he was in a love nebula.
@Alex Smith It's not a question of who Zeus slept with. It's a question who DIDN'T he sleep with.
Zeus can count on one hand the number of women/animals he hasn't slept with
He's working on getting it down to 0
@@mutantmaster1 *Returns from checking a knock on his door.* Damnit. Zeus only caught me at a glance, and thought I was a woman. Had to disabuse him of that notion.
@@hariman7727 Given how Zeus is, i don't think you being a man would make him stop.
@@alysondavy2485 it wouldn't.
I rolled a 9 and 11 on my Build-A-God Workshop, so basically my god is just a meme necromancer.
Truly, a benevolent god.
He can bring back dead memes like trololo, nyan cat, THIS IS SPARTA and rage comics with ease
.☻/ This is Bob. Bob wants to be resurrected.
/ ▌ Copy and paste him in every comment section
. /\ you see to help him take over UA-cam!
Nice
This is a wait
Why does my character sounds vaguely like yours?
My character is a sorcerer who thinks he’s a wizard but somehow can only do death magic also he likes memes
Nice, now make him the benevolent type that guides your protagonists.
Maybe by ressurecting them after they fail.
And make sure that the god of death is always the EVIL god, despite the fact that in Antiquity, the gods of death were usually quite revered and popular and seen as generous hosts who would welcome your soul after your passing.
It's all because modern society refuses to except the inevitability of death.
@@giovannigennaro9732 Memento mori
Unus
@@giovannigennaro9732 Yes, most people in modern times want to live for a thousand years or more or even immortal. No wonder they think the god of death is evil even though the truth is that every living thing will die someday
Yamraj is the god of death AND justice
Well, duhhh!
Some ppl wants to live forever.
Some ppl want their pets & loving family to stay with them forever.
Death is like a departure, an ending to their current life.
That's why death is often potrayed as 'evil', because it bring changes that some people dislike.
6:40 Zeus: Love triangle? Meh, I just look down and take the first thing I see, makes for great stories.
You have captured the essence of Zeus.
E-eh...your not wrong. Or rather what comes after that is what generated some of the greatest tales of myth. And all because one God couldn't keep it on his toga!
A love decahedron
@Supreme Snek Isn't that just Percy Jackson, except that all the other gods get in on it too?
"We can't have the gods of hydrogen or chlorine wandering about because a pantheon of the periodic table of elements would be way to big."
~begins typing furiously~
Oxygen: *holding hands with Hydrogen* nah I’m good
Anyone at all: Insults Carbon
Carbon: Yeah you don't get to alive anymore, and your entire village will be blighted with poor steel for the rest of days.
Why stop there? Have 118 gods for the elements and then include even more gods embodying basic building blocks of reality outside of atoms. Have gods representing quarks, energy, and motion.
God of Sodium smite people with kidney condition for eating his sacrifice offering mineral too much.
@@steelseraph7413 And end up with a religion about as complex as Hinduism
"Personality: Absent as it was replaced by honor"
"Personality: Hates goodness, has evil laugh, thinks Undertale is overrated"
oh my god these are great!!
Undertale is overrated tho
@@ikagura it deserved the praise but it's overexposure drove some people away
The percy Jackson books break most of these tropes and even they aren't free of the love triangle
Are we still good? Sure, YES
UGH, that love triangle still irks me.
If you go with Greek mythology, you better have some love triangles. That's bare minimum.
Didn't Percy had 4 or 5 love triangles
@@kalabooo4238 yessir
I need Gods because my edgy lone wolf needs somewhere to get his powers to overthrow the evil empire
I don’t need society’s approval, but I do need the blessings of dozens of literal forces of nature in the campiest possible human forms!
@@meowtherainbowx4163 also a hippie tree
MeowTheRainbowX of course! Although, he probably needs an entire 2 chapters of half-assedly trying to refuse the power that’s been bestowed upon him until he finally capitulates to their will well before the halfway mark
either rip off the greeks/romans or make them up (like the diety of edge or rock or metal)
Wow, it's like you read arifureta!
God of Evil and Goddess of Corruption who are chefs in their spare time, happily in love, and who use their powers not to create evil, but to mark that which already exists at being it. (I.E. "Hey, y'know that guy who just killed half a country? What he did is evil, and also he's evil. Do with that what you will.")
Reminiscent of Terry Pratchett's character DEATH: He does not kill you, he's just there to bring you to the other side so you don't have to walk alone. Quite nice if you think about it, actually.
That's the sad story of prophetic travellers, wandering around and warns about incoming disaster (which they get the blame for bringing). The static proclaimer of evil is less used as a superhuman.
@@JaharNarishma Or the story of the highest judges of a world. You could use that for a kind of "redemption" story: the main character is proclaimed evil and has to perform the long, dangerous journey to the realm of the gods to argue his or her case and convince the God of Evil that what he/she did was, in fact, not evil.
Or in variation: starting out convinced he/she acted right but then learns on the journey that the action was in fact evil. Finishes the journey anyways to thank said God for showing them the error of his/her ways and then get the label of evil removed because he/she repented.
Bureaucratic style - the Drug Enforcement Agency doesn't force people to take drugs. "Here's our new czar of evil to keep tabs on and recommend policy regarding reported evils."
@@StormgemThunder I'd love to see that concept implemented. What's the name of your story?