Topics Covered: - Intro [00:00] - Making the Wing Ball [00:44] - Making the 1 [01:43] - Squatting the CB [02:30] - Soft Break [03:16] - Gap Effects [05:05] - Breaking from the Box [05:59] - 9 on the Spot [06:54] - 9 on the Spot, Breaking from the Box [80:17] - Golden Break [09:41] - Controlling the 1 [11:49] - Wrap-Up [12:27] Supporting Resources: - Dr. Dave Billiard T-shirts, caps, mugs: drdavebilliardtshirts.com/ - Video Encyclopedia of Nine-ball and Ten-ball (VENT): drdavebilliards.com/videos/vent/ - how to get a tight rack: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/racking/ - 9-ball break resource page (with pro “golden breaks”): billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/ - pattern racking: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/pattern/ - Joe Rogan video with famous “Beautiful Game, Ugly People” quote: ua-cam.com/video/4G0Gx8suAQs/v-deo.html
Thanks Chris. I really worked hard on this one. I know I say that a lot, but I think this video took longer to create (due to all the narration, editing, illustration, etc.) than any other I've ever done. And my arm is killing me. I did all the filming over a 4-hour stretch, hitting break after break. The good news is: my break technique is now much better.
@@DrDaveBilliards I absolutely understand what you're talking about. It "can" take hours for us to collect the footage that we want to use to illustrate the lesson, and yes when it comes to breaking that can be exhausting having to break over and over again. But like you said, your breaking techniques become better!
What a well done video. Pertinent information, clearly presented with top notch production values. The extent of your efforts is obvious. Your dedication to excellence is much appreciated by this half-century player. You’re firing on all cylinders, Dave.
The 3-point rule was added to prevent soft breaking. Corey wasn't the only one doing it; although, he usually figured out stuff before everybody else did.
The level of attention to detail that you pay is marvelous! Yet again, thanks for everything you do for the pool community. Your aim to swerve is commendable! :)
I like sinking the wing ball and making the 1 ball come cross corner just short of sinking it, giving a great chance of playing out the rack! Great video! Awesome shirt:)
@Dr. Dave Billards: Thanks for showing me this Technique way of Pool Breaking. I knew somewhat about this Technique of breaking. But I learned some more I was not familiar with. 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸😀✌️✌️🎱
I'm glad to hear it. If you want to learn even more, check out the video and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/ and here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/advice/ Enjoy!
We've been playing with 9 on the spot exclusively for the last couple of years here in the Balkans. It's a challenge to make sure the break is legal while maintaining control of the cue ball. I hated it at first but, with practice, I've grown to enjoy it. Super-important to rack them tightly though - more so than in the traditional rack position!
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it. FYI, more videos I've done on this topic can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/ and here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/advice/ Check them out.
1/2-ball hit on the 1, aiming at the edge of the 1. But it is easy to figure out and adjust. If the 1 goes above the side, aim thinner; and if it goes below, aim fuller.
The magic rack is a perfectly tight rack but sometimes interferes like the extra clothe idea. One has to "just accept" that the little interference will become part of the game.
@@ral819 I know SVB may have once said he aims like this: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/aiming/shaft-edge/ But I suspect he actually aims like most pros and other top players do: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/aiming/dam/#advice
10-ball and 15-ball break strategy is really the same as the 8-ball break strategy covered here: ua-cam.com/video/eGAEfE71WPc/v-deo.html For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/8-ball/
Hello Dr. Dave!! I was watching some 9 ball games today and I came across a match from the Derby City Classic in early 2020. They were using the rule variations that included the 9 on the spot, break from the box and 3 point break. Shane was still able to run a 5 pack on his opponent. He was regularly making the 1 in the side with the 2 ball (which was racked as the bottom ball every time) into the same side pocket as the 1. Obviously, this guy's work ethic towards the game of pool is unmatched by almost anyone else. Even with all these racking and breaking rules in place, he still finds a way to do it in his favor. He is playing a race to 9 and wipes the table within 30 minutes. A few times I noticed that he was able to make the wing ball into the corner pocket. Do you think he was placing gaps to achieve this? I would love to see a video about this match! Thanks for all that you do! Cheers! ua-cam.com/video/rFlMl7uQHRQ/v-deo.html
I don't think he was gapping the rack. He was using the standard breaking approach for those breaking rules. For more info, see the videos and articles here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/ He just does it amazing well and consistently.
"Getting a tight rack is very important, if you want advice on how to do this ..." The first piece of advice that trumps all others is don't play at my pool hall where most of the centennials are literally, thirty years old. I have spent minutes, just for grins trying to make a tight rack, with seemingly every location possibility (obviously just seemingly) with zero success. One hall owner (another venue) told me the 1-9 balls actually end up smaller than the rest of the rack (for obvious reasons). I'm not sure if it's true, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was. I bought a new set of Aramith pros and a very accurate one piece aluminum rack and it was hard NOT to get an (as far as I could tell, certainly better than was possible with the old balls) perfectly tight rack. MONSTER difference, basically inverses of one another, probability wise. I think they are virtually identical balls, but the pro set with higher matching requirements...and the AGE.
Even if the balls are perfect (which is rare), that doesn't guarantee a good rack (even with a perfect triangle rack). Sometimes, the underlying cloth can make a perfect rack almost impossible (without tapping balls, training the table, or using a racking template). For those who want more info, it can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/racking/
*Nice shirt!* Thanks, Dr. Dave. I'd seen other videos on this subject (re: Cory Deuel's breaks) and was wondering if you'd cover it, too. I should have known you'd be on it, with your own insight. 👍
Thanks! If you or others want the shirt, it is available in many types, sizes, and colors, along with many other designs, here: drdavebilliardtshirts.com/ And more videos dealing with the 9-ball break, including "cheats" used by Corey and others in the past, can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/ Enjoy!
@@DrDaveBilliards I'm kind of ambivalent when it comes to Earl Strickland. I admire his ability, and dislike his lapses of sportsmanship. He does have his moments, though, when he seems like a genuinely decent person. I'll consider the shirt, because I like the sentiment.
My favorite 9-ball break spot I have the best breaks with I align the cue ball from the first diamond slightly below the line, just outside "the box" I've got the 9 on the break so many times, when it's tight I consistently get a ball in the corner pocket. I actually get the 9 more often from that spot with the cue ball aligned with the first 2 diamonds on the corner (1st diamond horizontal and vertical of table) kind of in the middle. I haven't even broke more than 100-150 9 ball racks or maybe slightly more and got the 9 more than a dozen times.
@@DrDaveBilliards cool, I guess it's a good break spot after all if breaks outside the box are allowed. I found the spot last year a buddy let me break 9 ball because then I barely played any, never forgot because first break got the 9 lol maybe a little bit of luck. now I want to play more 9 ball im curious if I can keep up the consistency. I want to try some of your breaks too, I like having a few break spots because if a break isn't working on a certain table it's nice to have an alternative. I got a vid playing virtual pool 4 against the PC in "shark" skill level when bars were closed from the covid lockdowns, I broke from a slightly different spot where the cue ball is near the line the 9 almost went in a few times in a row "9-Ball Combo Won Almost Every Game in Race to 5" ua-cam.com/video/-4gKhxZjhiI/v-deo.html
@@DrDaveBilliards I’m leaning toward them. You can download them too right? There’s something about having discs though, like you own something. But I guess if I have a few gigs on my computer it’ll be the same feeling. Would you know an average size for a download of a complete set, like VENT?
Yes. The videos can be streamed or downloaded. The average video size is 500MB, so a 5-volume set is about 2.5GB. If you decide you want physical DVDs instead, you can order them here: drdavebilliards.com/ I hope you enjoy and benefit from my stuff. Good luck with your game!
So helpful as always, Dr. Dave!! With the side break, does it make a big difference if one uses a rail bridge vs. a closed bridge nearby the rail? Thank you for all your resources!
There really isn’t enough room for a closed bridge on the bed of the table. And you don’t want to use a closed bridge on top the rail. That would create too much cue elevation. If you want or need help with the rail bridge, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bridge/rail-bridge
@@DrDaveBilliards that makes sense! I was thinking if the closed bridge a bit off the rail. Similar to SVB’s break in the breakdown video. I was wondering if it would make a difference with the power break, or if it’s best to just use a rail bridge.
@@philipv.mcharris5010 With the side break, power or not, I think the rail bridge is best for most people. See Jeff De Luna in the 9-ball section here: ua-cam.com/video/6jYtFvOUzbk/v-deo.html It doesn’t get any more power than that!
Thanks for the awesome videos!! Much appreciated. I have an unusual question... was is the official rule about a miscue on the break that doesnt disturb the rack? Ball in hand? Rebreak the same player or the opppnent? Foul count on 1? Can opponent play a safety and leave at the stack?
A miscue still counts as the shot. That is an illegal break. The opponent has the option to break, make you break again, or play a legal shot from where the CB lies. See Section 3.3 here: wpapool.com/rules-of-play/#eight-ball
dr dave, any tips on improving our game without a table at home? Practicing can get expensive... I'm guessing most of us have tried the bottle drill, but I'm wondering if you have thought of anything else?
Hi Dr. Dave, how tall are you? As a tall person, I find it quite difficult to break without bending my dominant knee. I can't see quite clearly on the video, but would bending my knee affect my breaking accuracy? Thanks.
Hi, I have a hard time breaking the balls in nine balls. The balls never spread out. Also they never cross the half table! No matter how much speed I apply. Our table is old and unbalanced, with dips and channels that cause a lot of scratches
The best advice is to get the rack balls as tight as possible. Advice on how to do that can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/racking/tight/ And if the "L" path is tight on at least one side, a side break from the opposite side works fine per the info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/ If not, a power break from the center is probably the best strategy.
Do you think more organizations / tournaments are going to go to the 9 on the spot / box format? With the high level of play we've been seeing the last couple years it seems a logical way to keep competition interesting and challenging.
Sorry, VENT and my other full-length instruction videos are available only in English. However, you can get subtitles for any of my online videos. On a desktop computer, click on the closed caption (CC) icon at the bottom of the video. Then click on the Settings (gear) icon and select the language you want under "Subtitles/CC." Unfortunately, this does not yet work on a mobile device.
Are you hitting the one ball straight on the front or tip of the one ball..? Not sure I’m making it clear. Or are you hitting it on the side where ur shooting on the break? Wish I could draw a picture of what I’m asking zz
Such a study would be interesting, but it would take a lot of time , effort, and cost (in obtaining the cues). Also, results will depend some on the person based on there preference, muscle physiology (fast twitch vs. slow twitch), and jump stroke technique. In general, if a jump cue has a hard tip (e.g., phenolic) and is light, it will work well for most people with decent technique. The technique is much more important than the cue. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/jump/ and: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/technique/ Enjoy!
I probably won't do a video on this, but in general it is easier to jump on a thicker cloth on a thicker slate. All humidity effects are listed here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/table/humidity-effects/
Earl likes slightly low left or right with respective side breaks I notice. Most instructors discourage beginners from using anything but center, up or down, on the cue ball for breaking.
That is not true of most pros, but Earl really like spinning the ball. Low left is definitely a good strategy with a cut break, but it offers no advantage with a standard square-hit side break.
@@DrDaveBilliards could you please look when you have time? pretty please? its the 4th one to the right on the right hand rack. I would really really appreciate it.
Great video as always Dr. Dave! When you talked about the CB hopping with a fast break when squatting it it made me remember the one time I broke a 10ball rack and the CB bounced like 4ft straight up off the table and hit the lights on top haha. Thankfully nothing broke and the CB was still in play, though I didn't have a shot at the 1ball hahaha
It is easy to hop the CB if you elevate the cue. The hard part is hitting the 1 perfectly squarely so it jumps straight up and not off the table. If it jumped that high and the CB landed on the table, you had an accurate hit (although, you'll obviously get better results with a more-level cue).
@@DrDaveBilliards I used a pretty level stroke, especially since I do this quirky little thing that I actually use my jumpbreak cue without the butt so it's not full sized and I hold at the very end, using only my first and middle fingers in like a cup shape. I get a more consistent and harder break that way. Not sure about now since I haven't got a chance to play since the pandemic lockdowns started. Everyone in the poolhall was just stunned for a few seconds wondering how I didn't break the lights with that break haha
Yes. Because the ball size is the same on all tables, the rack extends lower on a smaller table. So the wing ball will go lower on a smaller table. That's another reason why it is important to know how to make adjustments when the balls aren't going where you want.
@@DrDaveBilliards Thank you for responding. Just to be clear if I potted a ball from the break but only two ball came past the headstring it would still be an illegal break and my opponent could choose to take the table as it lies?
That would be a legal break (1 ball potted + 2 balls to the head string = 3 points); but if no ball were potted (with only 2 balls to the head string), or if only 1 ball touched the head string (with only 1 ball potted), then the break would be illegal and the opponent has the option to play the table as is.
There are many options depending on the CB path you want. I used bottom-right for most of the breaks from the "box." Watch the video again. By watching the CB, you can figure out what type of spin it has. I also show the spin diagram (showing the tip contact point on the CB) when it is different from previous breaks or when it is important.
It is a little more difficult to be accurate on a larger table and the wing-ball direction is slightly different on different size tables (due to the balls being the same size on all tables), but the differences are small.
Check out the info and videos here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/10-ball/ Also, the 8-ball break advice in the following video applies equally well to 10-ball: ua-cam.com/video/eGAEfE71WPc/v-deo.html Enjoy!
@@DrDaveBilliards you seem to know a lot about the sport. I have been table shopping for months. I really want a diamond pro am 9ft but with the light shipping etc its $10,000 flat. Alot to shell out. Do you have any recommendations in the 3-5k range? Used or new. I did find a brunswick wolf pro with ball return brand new for 4500 but I heard the new brunswick tables struggle in QC dept. I really want to have something with a ball return thats quite. I know the old gold crowns are popular but they look awful imho.
@@nyquil07na38 Sorry, but I’m not a good person to ask since I’ve never really shopped for a table before. Although, you certainly can’t go wrong with a Gold Crown or Diamond.
And there is no examples for power break ? I think u missed some breaks and cueball point where u hit how hard where to hit the one ball? Need to be more clear .. In europe we play in eurotour always 9 on the spot and kitchen rule? Actually i need this question answer both ways cut break n power break .. Ty anyways n happy healty birthday .. 👍
Sorry, but that one is no longer available (Early didn't want his image used with that slogan). Here is the replacement: drdavebilliardtshirts.com/product-category/humor/beautiful-game-ugly-people/
It's all right,, but needs balls, chalk, cue sticks something else...thanks, anyway, Doctor. P.S. Although lining cue up dead center MAY pocket the 9, I much prefer lining up to the side, hitting 1 full, and 90%+ of the time one or both wings drops, 1 is open down table and away I go running out.@@DrDaveBilliards
@@scottisitoro3953 Agreed. The side break to pocket the wing ball is the best approach with no 9-on-the-spot or break-from-the-box rules. See: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
I mean European tournament rules say you need more than 1 ball past the line same with a recent tournament in China although in US Tournaments 1 ball past the break line is fine as seen with other tournaments including ones that involved Corey Deuel's soft breaking technique also in the Mosconi cup having 1 ball past the line is fine. If you look at this year's 30th Anniversary edition the 3 ball past the line rule wasn't in effect even though it was held in Europe
Hang on, Pool is a beautiful game played by ugly people, are you referring to Charlie Chaplin, Wild West cowboys, cowgirls, and bandits who like to play pool during leisure time at a saloon(apart from Chaplin) or something else? Anyway, nice tips and hints. I always break from the left side when playing 9 Ball(which is a comfortable place to break). Can you out of a strategy pool game when playing 14.1 Pool? cause I need to get a little familiar with it.
If you know something not covered in all the videos, articles, and info under the various sub topics here, please let me know: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/
On my softer breaks, I use my standard stance. For the reasons why I stand like I do, see the last two videos here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stance/advice/ On the power breaks, I get in a stronger position and lift my body before the stroke, per the info in the video here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/advice/ Enjoy!
I can also fix your stance for you if you want to be a better player. This isn’t snooker or English 8 ball so your stance needs to be adjusted. Power break is the way to go. This bad stance and soft break are no good.
I'm not sure which break you are referring to, but I purposefully demonstrate both legal and illegal breaks (under different rules variations) in the video. You might want to listen to the audio while watching the video.
No it’s not good to use a break cloth on the break. If you actually know how to break and use speed, the cloth will cause the cue ball to jump in a bad way. And you NEVER want to use high English on the break. EVER!
A break cloth can change the CB hop trajectory slightly (which could help or hurt a little), but CB hop is unavoidable with a power break. Also, to squat the CB, slight topspin is required. For proof, see the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/ball-hop/
Topics Covered:
- Intro [00:00]
- Making the Wing Ball [00:44]
- Making the 1 [01:43]
- Squatting the CB [02:30]
- Soft Break [03:16]
- Gap Effects [05:05]
- Breaking from the Box [05:59]
- 9 on the Spot [06:54]
- 9 on the Spot, Breaking from the Box [80:17]
- Golden Break [09:41]
- Controlling the 1 [11:49]
- Wrap-Up [12:27]
Supporting Resources:
- Dr. Dave Billiard T-shirts, caps, mugs: drdavebilliardtshirts.com/
- Video Encyclopedia of Nine-ball and Ten-ball (VENT): drdavebilliards.com/videos/vent/
- how to get a tight rack: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/racking/
- 9-ball break resource page (with pro “golden breaks”): billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
- pattern racking: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/pattern/
- Joe Rogan video with famous “Beautiful Game, Ugly People” quote: ua-cam.com/video/4G0Gx8suAQs/v-deo.html
@TheMrProtocol ... not specifically, but it does cover various principles that apply over the full range of incoming CB angles.
I wouldn't have expected any less! Great explanation including the variation of rules!
Thanks Chris. I really worked hard on this one. I know I say that a lot, but I think this video took longer to create (due to all the narration, editing, illustration, etc.) than any other I've ever done. And my arm is killing me. I did all the filming over a 4-hour stretch, hitting break after break. The good news is: my break technique is now much better.
@@DrDaveBilliards I absolutely understand what you're talking about. It "can" take hours for us to collect the footage that we want to use to illustrate the lesson, and yes when it comes to breaking that can be exhausting having to break over and over again. But like you said, your breaking techniques become better!
Two of my favorite UA-camrs :)
This is an excellent understandable video. Thank you
@@jakesanc Thank you, and you're welcome.
What a well done video. Pertinent information, clearly presented with top notch production values. The extent of your efforts is obvious. Your dedication to excellence is much appreciated by this half-century player. You’re firing on all cylinders, Dave.
Thank you. I really appreciate your thoughtful and understanding response.
I didn’t know Corey was a factor in the headstrong rule. You learn something new every day
The 3-point rule was added to prevent soft breaking. Corey wasn't the only one doing it; although, he usually figured out stuff before everybody else did.
The level of attention to detail that you pay is marvelous! Yet again, thanks for everything you do for the pool community.
Your aim to swerve is commendable! :)
Thank you for your kind and supportive comment. I appreciate it, and you're welcome!
Thanks, great video, I really needed this, my break is awful. I learnt a lot from this video!
I'm glad you liked it. If you want more help with technique, see the videos and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/advice/
I like sinking the wing ball and making the 1 ball come cross corner just short of sinking it, giving a great chance of playing out the rack!
Great video!
Awesome shirt:)
That is definitely a good approach.
I have been fixing my 9 ball break over the last month. Thank you for the great info.
FYI, a lot more advice can be found here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
and here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/advice/
Enjoy!
@@DrDaveBilliards thank you. I will definitely check it out.
@@BackwardsBilliards You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
@Dr. Dave Billards: Thanks for showing me this Technique way of Pool Breaking. I knew somewhat about this Technique of breaking. But I learned some more I was not familiar with. 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸😀✌️✌️🎱
I'm glad to hear it. If you want to learn even more, check out the video and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
and here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/advice/
Enjoy!
thanks Dr Dave always great advice
You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
We've been playing with 9 on the spot exclusively for the last couple of years here in the Balkans.
It's a challenge to make sure the break is legal while maintaining control of the cue ball. I hated it at first but, with practice, I've grown to enjoy it. Super-important to rack them tightly though - more so than in the traditional rack position!
Agreed. The 9-on-the-spot, breaking-from-the-box, 3-point-rule break is definitely a challenge. The rules work.
I’ve been searching and waiting for someone to breakdown the 9-ball break for so long. U’ve done it perfectly!
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it. FYI, more videos I've done on this topic can be found here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
and here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/advice/
Check them out.
Thanks a lot, Dr. Dave. Good demonstration of break strategies.
You're welcome, and thank you.
Wow so helpful. Wish I would have seen these years ago
I'm glad you find my stuff useful.
When you're breaking from the box with the nine on the spot where do you aim on the one to make it in the side using a cut brake
1/2-ball hit on the 1, aiming at the edge of the 1. But it is easy to figure out and adjust. If the 1 goes above the side, aim thinner; and if it goes below, aim fuller.
Dr dave. I automatically like your videos.
I automatically like comments like this.
Thank you, nice one! And happy belated Birthday!
You're welcome. And thank you!
Awesome vid. Preach it Dr D!
Thanks. Amen.
That shirt is epic. Thanks for the tips
Thank you, and you're welcome. FYI, the shirt (with many other designs) is available here:
drdavebilliardtshirts.com/
The magic rack is a perfectly tight rack but sometimes interferes like the extra clothe idea. One has to "just accept" that the little interference will become part of the game.
Agreed. The "interference" sometimes hurts, but it also sometimes helps, and it is the same for all players.
Awesome videos Dr Dave ...
Thanks. I'm glad you like my stuff.
@@DrDaveBilliards Absolutely
@@DrDaveBilliards Next , let's see your view of SVB's aiming method...
@@ral819 I know SVB may have once said he aims like this:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/aiming/shaft-edge/
But I suspect he actually aims like most pros and other top players do:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/aiming/dam/#advice
Merry Christmas Dr Dave
Ditto!
Do another break strategy video on 10 ball and 15 ball rotation
10-ball and 15-ball break strategy is really the same as the 8-ball break strategy covered here:
ua-cam.com/video/eGAEfE71WPc/v-deo.html
For more info, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/8-ball/
Are you going to make a video following the new break guidelines?
I think the "9 on the Spot, Breaking from the Box" section starting at 8:17 already covers it well enough.
Hello Dr. Dave!! I was watching some 9 ball games today and I came across a match from the Derby City Classic in early 2020. They were using the rule variations that included the 9 on the spot, break from the box and 3 point break. Shane was still able to run a 5 pack on his opponent. He was regularly making the 1 in the side with the 2 ball (which was racked as the bottom ball every time) into the same side pocket as the 1. Obviously, this guy's work ethic towards the game of pool is unmatched by almost anyone else. Even with all these racking and breaking rules in place, he still finds a way to do it in his favor. He is playing a race to 9 and wipes the table within 30 minutes. A few times I noticed that he was able to make the wing ball into the corner pocket. Do you think he was placing gaps to achieve this? I would love to see a video about this match! Thanks for all that you do! Cheers!
ua-cam.com/video/rFlMl7uQHRQ/v-deo.html
I don't think he was gapping the rack. He was using the standard breaking approach for those breaking rules. For more info, see the videos and articles here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
He just does it amazing well and consistently.
Awesome video, thanks very much
Thank you, and you're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
Great video, love the t-shirt
Thanks. If you or others want this shirt or other designs, they are available here:
drdavebilliardtshirts.com/
Enjoy!
"Getting a tight rack is very important, if you want advice on how to do this ..." The first piece of advice that trumps all others is don't play at my pool hall where most of the centennials are literally, thirty years old. I have spent minutes, just for grins trying to make a tight rack, with seemingly every location possibility (obviously just seemingly) with zero success. One hall owner (another venue) told me the 1-9 balls actually end up smaller than the rest of the rack (for obvious reasons). I'm not sure if it's true, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was.
I bought a new set of Aramith pros and a very accurate one piece aluminum rack and it was hard NOT to get an (as far as I could tell, certainly better than was possible with the old balls) perfectly tight rack. MONSTER difference, basically inverses of one another, probability wise. I think they are virtually identical balls, but the pro set with higher matching requirements...and the AGE.
Even if the balls are perfect (which is rare), that doesn't guarantee a good rack (even with a perfect triangle rack). Sometimes, the underlying cloth can make a perfect rack almost impossible (without tapping balls, training the table, or using a racking template). For those who want more info, it can be found here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/racking/
Thanks for producing such wonderfully clear and concise videos. Just wondering; what are all the dots you have marked on the table for?
You're welcome. See:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/training/teaching/
*Nice shirt!* Thanks, Dr. Dave. I'd seen other videos on this subject (re: Cory Deuel's breaks) and was wondering if you'd cover it, too. I should have known you'd be on it, with your own insight. 👍
Thanks! If you or others want the shirt, it is available in many types, sizes, and colors, along with many other designs, here:
drdavebilliardtshirts.com/
And more videos dealing with the 9-ball break, including "cheats" used by Corey and others in the past, can be found here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
Enjoy!
@@DrDaveBilliards I'm kind of ambivalent when it comes to Earl Strickland. I admire his ability, and dislike his lapses of sportsmanship. He does have his moments, though, when he seems like a genuinely decent person. I'll consider the shirt, because I like the sentiment.
@@kurtkensson2059 Well stated. I agree.
Ur amazing your helping me very well keep it up!
I’m glad to hear it.
so good thank you
Thank you, and you’re welcome.
Great stuff, cheers!
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.
Great vid!
It was good to see & talk to you in Vegas last week.
Too bad about that push shot foul you had against my friend Frank. 🙄
Stay tuned. I plan to do a video about that soon also. Frank played very well and he deserved to win.
This is incredibly comprehensive! I wish it was more interesting practicing the break...This helps, though. :)
Thanks! I hope it helps.
My favorite 9-ball break spot I have the best breaks with I align the cue ball from the first diamond slightly below the line, just outside "the box" I've got the 9 on the break so many times, when it's tight I consistently get a ball in the corner pocket. I actually get the 9 more often from that spot with the cue ball aligned with the first 2 diamonds on the corner (1st diamond horizontal and vertical of table) kind of in the middle. I haven't even broke more than 100-150 9 ball racks or maybe slightly more and got the 9 more than a dozen times.
That's pretty good "golden break" stats. Even the pros have a hard time getting stats like that.
@@DrDaveBilliards cool, I guess it's a good break spot after all if breaks outside the box are allowed. I found the spot last year a buddy let me break 9 ball because then I barely played any, never forgot because first break got the 9 lol maybe a little bit of luck. now I want to play more 9 ball im curious if I can keep up the consistency. I want to try some of your breaks too, I like having a few break spots because if a break isn't working on a certain table it's nice to have an alternative.
I got a vid playing virtual pool 4 against the PC in "shark" skill level when bars were closed from the covid lockdowns, I broke from a slightly different spot where the cue ball is near the line the 9 almost went in a few times in a row "9-Ball Combo Won Almost Every Game in Race to 5" ua-cam.com/video/-4gKhxZjhiI/v-deo.html
Always a pleasure to Learn from you. Btw, what’s your Fargo rating? I’m going to guess 635 🙂
I don't have a Fargo Rating. I've only played in VNEA leagues and tournaments. I would guess 630-650.
Thankyou Dr.
You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
Ive decided to buy one of Daves instructional videos. Should I get the stream or dvd version?
The stream/download versions cost less, and you can get them immediately. For more info, see:
drdavebilliards.com/videos/stream/
@@DrDaveBilliards I’m leaning toward them. You can download them too right? There’s something about having discs though, like you own something. But I guess if I have a few gigs on my computer it’ll be the same feeling. Would you know an average size for a download of a complete set, like VENT?
Yes. The videos can be streamed or downloaded. The average video size is 500MB, so a 5-volume set is about 2.5GB. If you decide you want physical DVDs instead, you can order them here:
drdavebilliards.com/
I hope you enjoy and benefit from my stuff. Good luck with your game!
So helpful as always, Dr. Dave!! With the side break, does it make a big difference if one uses a rail bridge vs. a closed bridge nearby the rail? Thank you for all your resources!
There really isn’t enough room for a closed bridge on the bed of the table. And you don’t want to use a closed bridge on top the rail. That would create too much cue elevation. If you want or need help with the rail bridge, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/bridge/rail-bridge
@@DrDaveBilliards that makes sense! I was thinking if the closed bridge a bit off the rail. Similar to SVB’s break in the breakdown video. I was wondering if it would make a difference with the power break, or if it’s best to just use a rail bridge.
@@philipv.mcharris5010 With the side break, power or not, I think the rail bridge is best for most people. See Jeff De Luna in the 9-ball section here:
ua-cam.com/video/6jYtFvOUzbk/v-deo.html
It doesn’t get any more power than that!
@@DrDaveBilliards what a monster break! Thanks, Dr. Dave!!!
You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)
Thank you!!
You're welcome!!
Thanks for the awesome videos!! Much appreciated. I have an unusual question... was is the official rule about a miscue on the break that doesnt disturb the rack? Ball in hand? Rebreak the same player or the opppnent? Foul count on 1? Can opponent play a safety and leave at the stack?
A miscue still counts as the shot. That is an illegal break. The opponent has the option to break, make you break again, or play a legal shot from where the CB lies. See Section 3.3 here:
wpapool.com/rules-of-play/#eight-ball
In 9-ball, the opponent gets ball in hand and can do whatever they want. See:
wpapool.com/rules-of-play/#9-ball
Thank you and thank you
You're welcome and you're welcome.
dr dave, any tips on improving our game without a table at home? Practicing can get expensive... I'm guessing most of us have tried the bottle drill, but I'm wondering if you have thought of anything else?
I have lots of suggestions here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/advice/practicing-with-no-table/
Enjoy!
@Michael Smith That's a great idea, especially for people lucky enough to be in a situation like you (with a pool-room-equipped hotel close by).
For the game of Rotation, can you teach us how to break a 15 ball rack with plentiest flukes???
Hi Dr. Dave, how tall are you? As a tall person, I find it quite difficult to break without bending my dominant knee. I can't see quite clearly on the video, but would bending my knee affect my breaking accuracy? Thanks.
I am 6'3". I bend both knees on every shot, per the info in the first video here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stance/
Hi, I have a hard time breaking the balls in nine balls. The balls never spread out. Also they never cross the half table! No matter how much speed I apply. Our table is old and unbalanced, with dips and channels that cause a lot of scratches
If you want some good technique advice, see the videos and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/advice/
very useful !
I'm glad you think so.
Great video! Im still getting the idea of hos the break works with 9ball. What is the 3 point rule? How does it work?
See the 1:13 point in the video.
Doc, could you talk about breaking with wooden racks
The best advice is to get the rack balls as tight as possible. Advice on how to do that can be found here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/racking/tight/
And if the "L" path is tight on at least one side, a side break from the opposite side works fine per the info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
If not, a power break from the center is probably the best strategy.
Do you think more organizations / tournaments are going to go to the 9 on the spot / box format? With the high level of play we've been seeing the last couple years it seems a logical way to keep competition interesting and challenging.
Sounds like a reasonable trend to me. Or more 10-ball. Or more 15-ball rotation.
I don't understand English, do I have to buy the video in Portuguese or Spanish?
Sorry, VENT and my other full-length instruction videos are available only in English. However, you can get subtitles for any of my online videos. On a desktop computer, click on the closed caption (CC) icon at the bottom of the video. Then click on the Settings (gear) icon and select the language you want under "Subtitles/CC."
Unfortunately, this does not yet work on a mobile device.
Thanks ❤️
You're welcome. FYI, a lot more info on this topic can be found here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
Enjoy!
Are you hitting the one ball straight on the front or tip of the one ball..? Not sure I’m making it clear. Or are you hitting it on the side where ur shooting on the break? Wish I could draw a picture of what I’m asking zz
The diagram and linked articles here might help:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
for some reason, a straight on break on my table reliably pockets the wing ball every time
You either have gaps in the rack, or you are hitting the 1-ball to one side a little (creating a "cut break").
@@DrDaveBilliards there could be some gaps. is there a way to make sure the rack is tight without a magic rack or should i invest in one?
@@gatlingoodman9772 See the advice and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/racking/tight/
@@DrDaveBilliards thank you dr dave, you have helped my pool game so much
@@gatlingoodman9772 I’m glad to hear it. Continued good luck with your game!
Can you please review some jump cues? I’m so interested to see if there are major differences...lomax hanshew dunkel pechauer etc
Can you also go over jumping in different environments? Cloth, humidity...
Such a study would be interesting, but it would take a lot of time , effort, and cost (in obtaining the cues). Also, results will depend some on the person based on there preference, muscle physiology (fast twitch vs. slow twitch), and jump stroke technique. In general, if a jump cue has a hard tip (e.g., phenolic) and is light, it will work well for most people with decent technique. The technique is much more important than the cue. For more info, see:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/jump/
and:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/jump/technique/
Enjoy!
I probably won't do a video on this, but in general it is easier to jump on a thicker cloth on a thicker slate. All humidity effects are listed here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/table/humidity-effects/
I was recently introduced to 6 ball (playing by 9 ball rules). any suggestions for a more effective break?
Check out all the videos and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/advice/
Enjoy! I hope it helps.
Sorry, I misread your comment. The advice above is useful; but concerning the 6-ball break specifically, I don't have any direct experience or advice.
"You're a screamer Earl!" That should be on your T shirt.
Earl likes slightly low left or right with respective side breaks I notice. Most instructors discourage beginners from using anything but center, up or down, on the cue ball for breaking.
That is not true of most pros, but Earl really like spinning the ball. Low left is definitely a good strategy with a cut break, but it offers no advantage with a standard square-hit side break.
@@DrDaveBilliards : Great video btw!👍
@@rogerscottcathey Thanks!
At 0:06 what cue is 4th from the right on your your cue rack with the light wrap? I really like that cue! I want one.
Sorry, but I don’t know.
@@DrDaveBilliards could you please look when you have time? pretty please? its the 4th one to the right on the right hand rack. I would really really appreciate it.
@@jancollard7189 It is a custom cue somebody sent me a long time ago. I don't remember who sent it to me. Sorry.
Great video as always Dr. Dave!
When you talked about the CB hopping with a fast break when squatting it it made me remember the one time I broke a 10ball rack and the CB bounced like 4ft straight up off the table and hit the lights on top haha.
Thankfully nothing broke and the CB was still in play, though I didn't have a shot at the 1ball hahaha
It is easy to hop the CB if you elevate the cue. The hard part is hitting the 1 perfectly squarely so it jumps straight up and not off the table. If it jumped that high and the CB landed on the table, you had an accurate hit (although, you'll obviously get better results with a more-level cue).
@@DrDaveBilliards I used a pretty level stroke, especially since I do this quirky little thing that I actually use my jumpbreak cue without the butt so it's not full sized and I hold at the very end, using only my first and middle fingers in like a cup shape. I get a more consistent and harder break that way. Not sure about now since I haven't got a chance to play since the pandemic lockdowns started.
Everyone in the poolhall was just stunned for a few seconds wondering how I didn't break the lights with that break haha
Do the ball break patterns change based on the size of the table? Are the ball paths on a 7ft, 8ft, or 9ft table the same?
Yes. Because the ball size is the same on all tables, the rack extends lower on a smaller table. So the wing ball will go lower on a smaller table. That's another reason why it is important to know how to make adjustments when the balls aren't going where you want.
whats gonna be ur next video dr dave? nice video.
It's a surprise. Do you have any requests for future videos?
Que buen video toda una joya
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it.
So you align the cue ball with the second dot lengthwise and first dot width wise?
Less than half a diamond (dot) from the side rail.
@@DrDaveBilliards If you were to draw an imaginary straight line from the cue ball through the 1 ball, where would it hit on the opposite rail?
See the illustration here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
4:22 well Dr Dave aged quickly here 😂😂
Funny. That's Bob Jewett, with whom I worked together on several projects including VENT.
@@DrDaveBilliards Ahh ok. Great to know!
If you don't satisfy the 3 point break is it a foul and does your opponent have ball in hand?
The opponent has the option to take the table as is or return it to the breaker. There is no ball in hand.
@@DrDaveBilliards Thank you for responding. Just to be clear if I potted a ball from the break but only two ball came past the headstring it would still be an illegal break and my opponent could choose to take the table as it lies?
That would be a legal break (1 ball potted + 2 balls to the head string = 3 points); but if no ball were potted (with only 2 balls to the head string), or if only 1 ball touched the head string (with only 1 ball potted), then the break would be illegal and the opponent has the option to play the table as is.
@@DrDaveBilliards Thank you Dave. I love your channel btw. Keep up the good work.
9 ball on the spot with 3 point rule where u hit cue ball for cut break?
There are many options depending on the CB path you want. I used bottom-right for most of the breaks from the "box." Watch the video again. By watching the CB, you can figure out what type of spin it has. I also show the spin diagram (showing the tip contact point on the CB) when it is different from previous breaks or when it is important.
Does the table length affect breaking?
It is a little more difficult to be accurate on a larger table and the wing-ball direction is slightly different on different size tables (due to the balls being the same size on all tables), but the differences are small.
PLEASE DO THIS FOR 8-BALL:)
I already did:
ua-cam.com/video/eGAEfE71WPc/v-deo.html
and a lot more advice can be found here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/8-ball/
Enjoy!
What are the spots on the table for?
See:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/training/teaching/
PLEASE DO 10 BALL next 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Check out the info and videos here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/10-ball/
Also, the 8-ball break advice in the following video applies equally well to 10-ball:
ua-cam.com/video/eGAEfE71WPc/v-deo.html
Enjoy!
In the still you chose, your finger length makes you look like an alien. Are you an alien, Dave? :-)
Nope, just tall (6' 3"). A tall alien. :)
nice tshirt ;-)
Thanks. FYI, this and many other cool designs are available here:
drdavebilliardtshirts.com/
Enjoy!
What table do you play on?
9’ Olhausen previously owned by the late, great Robert Byrne.
@@DrDaveBilliards you seem to know a lot about the sport. I have been table shopping for months. I really want a diamond pro am 9ft but with the light shipping etc its $10,000 flat. Alot to shell out. Do you have any recommendations in the 3-5k range? Used or new. I did find a brunswick wolf pro with ball return brand new for 4500 but I heard the new brunswick tables struggle in QC dept. I really want to have something with a ball return thats quite. I know the old gold crowns are popular but they look awful imho.
@@nyquil07na38 Sorry, but I’m not a good person to ask since I’ve never really shopped for a table before. Although, you certainly can’t go wrong with a Gold Crown or Diamond.
Bruh...the Earl shirt killed me
FYI, the Earl shirt and many others are available here:
drdavebilliardtshirts.com/
Enjoy!
And there is no examples for power break ? I think u missed some breaks and cueball point where u hit how hard where to hit the one ball? Need to be more clear .. In europe we play in eurotour always 9 on the spot and kitchen rule? Actually i need this question answer both ways cut break n power break .. Ty anyways n happy healty birthday .. 👍
FYI, I have lots of good power break advice in the videos and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/advice/
Sell me that "Earl" t-shirt, please.
Just wash it first.
Sorry, but that one is no longer available (Early didn't want his image used with that slogan). Here is the replacement:
drdavebilliardtshirts.com/product-category/humor/beautiful-game-ugly-people/
It's all right,, but needs balls, chalk, cue sticks something else...thanks, anyway, Doctor.
P.S. Although lining cue up dead center MAY pocket the 9, I much prefer
lining up to the side, hitting 1 full, and 90%+ of the time
one or both wings drops, 1 is open down table and away I go running out.@@DrDaveBilliards
@@scottisitoro3953 Agreed. The side break to pocket the wing ball is the best approach with no 9-on-the-spot or break-from-the-box rules. See:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
You must have at least 3 balls to come to other side of the table in order not a foul break
… or pocketed, when the 3-point rule is in effect.
I mean European tournament rules say you need more than 1 ball past the line same with a recent tournament in China although in US Tournaments 1 ball past the break line is fine as seen with other tournaments including ones that involved Corey Deuel's soft breaking technique also in the Mosconi cup having 1 ball past the line is fine. If you look at this year's 30th Anniversary edition the 3 ball past the line rule wasn't in effect even though it was held in Europe
Well I mean slwo cloth doesn't help either
HIT THAT LIKE BUTTON !!
Thanks. It always baffles me how many people feel the need to hit the dislike button. Sometimes I wish I knew what they were thinking or feeling.
My grandson idols you
Tell him I wish him luck with his game.
Hang on, Pool is a beautiful game played by ugly people, are you referring to Charlie Chaplin, Wild West cowboys, cowgirls, and bandits who like to play pool during leisure time at a saloon(apart from Chaplin) or something else? Anyway, nice tips and hints. I always break from the left side when playing 9 Ball(which is a comfortable place to break). Can you out of a strategy pool game when playing 14.1 Pool? cause I need to get a little familiar with it.
"Pool is a beautiful game played by ugly people" is a famous quote attributed to Earl Strickland.
You will not get a tight rack in your local bar as the spot is always worn .
Old, beat-up balls also make it difficult.
SVB is the best
Agreed. He definitely has the best break technique, per the videos and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/advice/
I can teach you how to break if you want to improve.
If you know something not covered in all the videos, articles, and info under the various sub topics here, please let me know:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/
Not the best stance there on the break Davie!
On my softer breaks, I use my standard stance. For the reasons why I stand like I do, see the last two videos here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stance/advice/
On the power breaks, I get in a stronger position and lift my body before the stroke, per the info in the video here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/advice/
Enjoy!
I can also fix your stance for you if you want to be a better player. This isn’t snooker or English 8 ball so your stance needs to be adjusted. Power break is the way to go. This bad stance and soft break are no good.
If you are interested to know why I changed my stance away from a classic pool stance, see the videos here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stance/
Illegal break
I'm not sure which break you are referring to, but I purposefully demonstrate both legal and illegal breaks (under different rules variations) in the video. You might want to listen to the audio while watching the video.
No it’s not good to use a break cloth on the break. If you actually know how to break and use speed, the cloth will cause the cue ball to jump in a bad way. And you NEVER want to use high English on the break. EVER!
A break cloth can change the CB hop trajectory slightly (which could help or hurt a little), but CB hop is unavoidable with a power break. Also, to squat the CB, slight topspin is required. For proof, see the videos and info here:
billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/ball-hop/
what is the 3 point rule?
A break power requirement where 3 or more balls must be driven above the heads string or be pocketed.