This is really great. I hope that their products are cost-competitive, because then businesses and mines will have a good incentive to clean all of the rivers.
Even if it isn't, that should be subsidized by the government to make it so. If they subsidize companies that do the polluting then they sure need to subsidized those that clean up too.
Swedes have done this for over 400 years. That's why all houses in Sweden are red. It's called "Falu red" and comes from Dalarna coppermines (Wikipedia it). Also... It is better to avoid AMD at all. By either covering and hindering oxidation of the sulfuric mine waste, or by neutralizing it with alkali material that can keep buffering the pH at neutralize levels until the minewaste isnt reactive. This is better for the enviroment. It is wierd to brand this as something new that helps the enviroment. When this is not something new and its not the best option for the enviroment.
@@sekaikage Sure its better than doing nothing. But this is not a solution to the problem that AMD cause. I had to say something because it is common to see Americans brand things wrong just to earn money. AMD is something you should thrive to avoid. This wont help leaching of heavy metals and low pH in water. This just seems like a way to justify not paying for real treatment of the mine waste. Judging by how it is presented in the report. I have seen other videos of mines in America and it seems like you have wierd regolatory bodies over there. You rather let the enviroment disaster happen and deal with it later. Than to just deal with it before it happens.. Its like, you rather pay later, even if it will cost exponentially more. +Have done damage to nature. Please stop this kind of thinking as to not screw over future generations. Just because some problems take long time to develope doesnt mean you can ignore them.
Swedes have done this for over 400 years. That's why all houses in Sweden are red. It's called "Falu red" and comes from Dalarna coppermines (Wikipedia it). Also... It is better to avoid AMD at all. By either covering and hindering oxidation of the sulfuric mine waste, or by neutralizing it with alkali material that can keep buffering the pH at neutralize levels until the minewaste isnt reactive. This is better for the enviroment. It is wierd to brand this as something new that helps the enviroment. When this is not something new and its not the best option for the enviroment.
I've permanently removed elastic hair ties from my life. Never have to buy a product to keep long hair in check. I use a hair stick. They last years longer anyways, with no elastic to wear out.
Actually one can prevent this pollution, which is happening in Germany in the Ruhrgebiet. This is a former region where havy coal mining has taken place. Nowadays we do have pumps in the mines that prevent the AMD to rise up to the groundwater. This has to be continued until infinity (also to prevent some cities, which dropped due to the mining, from drowning), but protects the environment and keeps the groundwater safe to use for drink water purposes
Unfortunately the US prioritizes business and profits and isn't gonna jump to stop things like this. Probably excuses like there's no money or something
@@ronmanson3000 that is what i was thinking, like a motor that runs on solar could take the iron oxide to a higher up tank and they just collect it from there
I was thinking of something similar, and am sort of surprised that the EPA hasn't crackdown on this specific case. These people are not developing solutions to stop pollution, they are taking advantage of pollution.
@Fredrik Larsson "The pigment used in Falu Rödfärg comes from ore-mining in the Falun Mine. The ore from the mine is hand-sorted, and stones with *too low a copper content* are put to the side in what are known as waste heaps. *Iron oxide, which gives the pigment its red colour,* is caused by the presence of iron, pyrite, pyrrhotite and chalcopyrite in the ore. When ironbearing minerals decompose, a limonite is formed which is yellow or yellowishbrown in colour."
@Fredrik Larsson no no, I just copy pasted from the official site. I too learned about the color in grundskolan and was taught it was iron, but the site repeatedly stresses that it contains 20 different minerals which gives the pigment a different light interaction (and also wood protection qualities) than just plain iron oxide.
@@Call-me-Al The coppar in Falu rödfärg killes all algi and bakteria as long as there is paint left on the wall. If it was just iron oxide the houses would mold and root in a year.
Iron oxide is an important ingredient in many products. It would be great to see this scaled up to the point where all of these old mine sites become wellsprings of raw materials. Love these people and how they're changing their particular corner of the world for the better. 💜🌎
This is such a wonderful idea. If I can ever afford it, I would love to buy some of that paint. It seems like beautiful earthy tones. Keep up the work!
Swedes have done this for over 400 years. That's why all houses in Sweden are red. It's called "Falu red" and comes from Dalarna coppermines (Wikipedia it). Also... It is better to avoid AMD at all. By either covering and hindering oxidation of the sulfuric mine waste, or by neutralizing it with alkali material that can keep buffering the pH at neutralize levels until the minewaste isnt reactive. This is better for the enviroment. It is wierd to brand this as something new that helps the enviroment. When this is not something new and its not the best option for the enviroment.
@@Bondebillforlife Nobody is branding this as something new. The motivation is new because nobody ever cared before until these people did. And why are you so salty about the idea of these people cleaning up the environment for? Are swedish people like that? Instead of appreciating or encouraging efforts to clean up the environment, you are selling the idea that americans should not do it because swedes already did it. What a bitter and bad person you are.
this is not hes profiting from it not helping anything just transfering the issue to paper that well is not doing anything and hes making money not cool at all
How wonderful. I will keep my eye out for these paints. I am an artist whose grandfather was a coal miner. It would be nice to create something special to honor my grandfather with the paint. Great concept!
For many years I worked a a local facility that had a huge recycling facility on the property. But this paint is one of the best ideas I have seen 8n a long time. prayers for your continued success.
Fascinating! My lecturer once wanted my class to make pigments out of rain mud but well the lack of facilities stood in our way. As a studying industrial chemist I can say, the smoothness comes from the sedimentation of particles, iron oxide (Fe3+ is brown) is the colour imparting agent as it is a transition element with the presence of d-orbitals, and the application of heat does change the color because heat is a form of energy and different energies are associated with different colours on the visible spectrum (colours visible to the eye). Hope you learnt something 😊
Got to start somewhere. Not polluting the environment out of the goodness of a company's heart doesn't work, no one does anything to criminalise it, so why not show them how they could be making profit from waste. Then polluting is like throwing away money
@@sinthorana2814 Depends how profitable it is and whether or not they feel that time money could be better invested elsewhere. If anything it's more about recouping some lost costs while boosting public image
@@sinthorana2814 I’m sure you have no role to play in these “evil companies” I’m sure you’re not depending on it for your goods and services oh holy one
This company is not doing the dirty work, other countries and even places in America have methods to prevent mines from leaking into water ways. There is something very weird going on in this video, and I would not be surprised if the EPA starts looking into this specific case.
This is incredible to me. When i was younger i got the chance to do some research at a college in western MD where we did some tests on the streams there to see how both the AMD and a slag bed (which was intended on evening out the PH in the streams) affected the stream life. And completely removing all the particulates as much as possible is such a great idea. Beyond this i can see this becoming applicable with other dissolved materials beyond iron oxide with other forms of AMD. Imagine the greens of oxidized copper just as one thought! I really hope this is further expanded in time across all different places where abandoned mines seem to litter the landscape.
The giant abandoned copper strip mine in Butte, MT is a neighbor of mine. Even after the Superfund cleanup, I still see green and aqua puddles every time it rains.
The Arkansas River in Colorado went all orange in the 80s after the Yak Tunnel blew. It's recovered and is now the longest stretch of Gold Water Trout fishing in the state.
@@bluey3575 its just iron oxide so after a certain amount of time it will redistribute to natural levels. The issue is only that there is so much of it, so likely diminishing the release of the iron oxide helped.
@@bluey3575 In the Arkansas River the EPA deployed a system of pumps which allowed them to clear out the mines, they still do it in specific areas during specific times of the year. Realistically that's what they should be doing with this case, the way its going right now is improperly managed.
Learned something new and if it's an nearly unlimited resource and a benefit to the environment getting cleaned up, than use than it in everything possible.
Amazing how people come up with stuff like this, just sad how it seems like a never ending task. Thank you for bringing their business to world's attention!
@@questv2661 rust that will disappear slowly, they’re just speeding up the process of the iron oxide naturally going away. But eh, at least they’re doing it.
I wish they sold these on their website. None of the stores using the store locator pulled up this paint at hand 🤨. This could really take off. I hope the accessibility and expansion of it in 2024 booms!
The more i watch this, the more i realize not all mining companies are concerned about their impact on the environment. We have some that are concerned and try to do what they can to reduce their impact (creating sediment pond, water treatment facility, planned water flow, etc) and even more company are just dumping everything out. I am just grateful that i work in the company that tries to do it the right way
As a painter and someone who loves nature, this makes me happy and making me think if I use this paint to sell, I can create eco friend paintings which money is donated to the environment.
I lived around coal mines for most of my younger years, they did fill in their catacombs of caves etc, as required by law but not much else, it is methane gas stations that are just as lethal to Mother Nature and the animals when abandoned as well. I love what they are doing I’m an artist and would love to get involved spreading the word that we can change the world one bucket at a time. Ty for all you guys are doing!!
I'm not gonna lie, I am surprised this isn't already used to just mine iron. Separate the iron oxide and just make it iron. This is also a great way to use it though.
Bog iron was an industry in colonial America. Unfortunately a lack of available coal meant that many forests were piled high and burned into charcoal to create the bloom and forge it down. Look at the history of the Berkshires in western Massachusetts. It seems ironic that 300 years later the coal mines are now the source of oxides
@@dronzerdanks7163 all iron ore commercially mined is iron oxide. Most ores of any metal are oxidized. Only a few metals can be found naturally in their elemental state, copper, silver, gold, and platinum.
RIO is a great burn rate catalyst, and an important pigment. if you have a steel industry there's already plenty of oxide (scale) from the rolling mills. While I appreciate this sort of artisanal harvest, to truly clean up the waste seeping from even one of these mines is a huge undertaking. And coal is not near the worst of it compared to ore mines where it's things like sulphur and lead leaching out of the mountains of tailings.
@@jimurrata6785 I do agree, it might not be enough to truly clean up the mine site, but is it better than doing nothing? Yes. Above all, it's inspiring. I also agree that coal mines are by far the most docile, currently the real "elephant in the room" is mining alkali metals, especially lithium - the EV market share is booming, and while I don't think they're bad, mining lithium needs to be regulated.
@@lazar2175 Pretty much _any_ kind of extractive process needs regulation. Ore, coal, oil, water, whatever... And while I'm glad the group featured here can feel good making lemonade from the consequences inflicted on their community, much of the legacy of the pigment industry they are supporting is very ugly. Dioxin purple, arsenic (Paris) green, cadmium yellow and red, cobalt blue, lead white, brown, yellow, black, red and _many_ more. Not to mention aniline dyes extracted from coal tar... Even something as seemingly benign and ubiquitous as titanium white have sometimes fatal effects. The "earth tones" ochre, sienna and umber are probably the most eco-friendly. But we humans like bright and shiny. I think it's great that these people are taking the initiative to do something that lessens the load on their environment. If only we all could! Especially the corporations who exploit this planet.
@@lazar2175 Hopefully the majority of future lithium mining will come from brine extraction. Perhaps the effluent of desalination plants? That would offer all kinds of raw stock and prevent the imbalance of dumping it back into our precious oceans.
I think only a small amount of people profit from the paint sales.the owners of the company..unless they are spending some of their profits to try and completely stop that runoff that they collect to make money,and in the end,eventually put themselves out of business..lol.i doubt they want that..but,this video is a good thing because it's brings light to coal mining waste water,etc..I and I'm sure most people had no idea that this is occurring,so,probably making this informative video even more important overall than the actual tiny dent trying to make that runoff waste into paint..so.well done to this video for sharing this info.
This is mind blowing. Most of us only talk about climate and environment, while some of us plant a few trees or participate in group activities. But these people are doing something that'll really help our world
This? This is brilliant. This is something to invest in. This is something that could be utilized in numerous industries and would be beneficial across the board. Not just an environmental benefit; think of the jobs this can create, the communities this method can assist. This is the sort of Innovation we desperately need and can be started NOW
@Howard the source is a mine deep underground. These mines were built decades and in many cases centuries ago before the effects of their pollution were fully known. Today it would be virtually impossible to stop the pollution at the source without a time machine. Sad, but just the way things are.
Ceramics artists should hop on board with this. Iron oxide is the most common pigment used to color ceramics in the United States, but it is primarily synthetic and depends on the mining of ore (or the burning of other ferrous materials) to create. With as much as they get in this run off, turning some into ceramics colorants could really help to reclaim the iron oxide pollution and possibly reduce the mining and other operations which probably create their own waste creating synthetic iron oxides for pottery.
I love the idea of using pollution for paint but I wish there was something to stop old mines from producing pollution in the first place like lavender fields or something like that
Sounds like a really fair idea. And they should over price it that way more people are eager to scoop up more of it. Especially if it's not gonna stop..
This makes me smile as well as grateful. I’m American Indian who’s naturally in tune with Mother Earth. My ancestors have lived off of her for centuries. Today we’re in such dire need of change bc of such poor environmental neglect. If we do not act now we put our children’s jeopardy at sake.
Your team is doing such a fantastic job! I hope it inspires others to keep creating solutions like this to help our environment recover from all the pollutions.
Mineral iron oxide as a pigment has been used for thousands upon thousands of years. It's really inspiring that iron oxide from AMD is being made into pigment here because it's the same base pigment that was used for red and yellow in the cave paintings at Lascaux 17,000 years ago, in church and castle artwork in the Middle Ages, and by artists in the Renaissance. It's been a staple of our art for all of human history, and now we're using that continued tradition to clean up our mine pollution. That's reason enough for me to want some of this paint; think of clean water, and think of Lascaux.
I really appreciate your team from my bottom of my heart. Your hardwork is reducing not much but little pollution.. I hope that you will still continue to be a blessing to the world by reducing and recycling the pollution.. Hats off to the team...
This is one of the best businesses I've watched in this channel. Some businesses doesn't really help eliminate waste. They just claim to be "eco-friendly".
Hope it install at Mamut mine at Sabah, Malaysia. Mamut Mine (Malay: Lombong Mamut) is an abandoned open-pit quarry mine located in the Ranau District of Sabah, Malaysia where from 1975 to 1999 various minerals primarily copper including some gold and silver were mined. The mine is known as Malaysia's only copper mine. Since its closure and subsequent abandonment, waters have filled the mine which is toxic to consumption due to its highly acidic nature as unfeasible and costly since even if the water could be treated with acid mine drainage (AMD) method to neutralise its acidity, other minerals and heavy metals are still present in the water that made it unfit for human consumption and need more cost to clean the water.
Thank you Michelle and John for your initiative and perseverance in developing this industry. Thank you for doing Something to help remove some of the dangerous chemicals from the waterways and having it recycled into something useful. Thank you to your team and all of your collaborators in the chain.
I think this is more like a drop trying to empty the titanic with a tea cup after the iceberg hit. The only way this would have chance of making a difference. That was what 100kg of rust? And how much resources, time and energy was used to it. For this to make a difference you'd need massive industrial scale extraction of this stuff systematically. Then turning that in to something. Price of iron ain't enough to justify this as a source of iron considering the amount of effort cleaning it would take; however that is something that would be needed. In actuality. We should be going to old mines and taking the tailings and extract every last mineral from them for something. No point blowing up a mine and leaving stuff unused. There are lots of stuff the ranging from many common metals in small quantities and uranium. (No the uranium doesn't disappear if you don't process the rock, so if you gonna have a pile of rock you might aswell use it, including the uranium).
Taht's good stuff, seems like those guys need to upscale their collection opperation a bit, though, like affix a pump into a collection tank, to bypass the bucket brigade; it makes me wonder, though, how much iron oxide is in that mine, like...you can't pull acid sludge forever, and I'm sure on a certain level, everyone is looking forward to it running dry. if only so they can switch to a different mine, and be glad that it's clean. but until then, gotta be better methods than bucket brigade.
@@nigelft Oh I'm probably with you on that, all in the name of "many hands make light work but automation requires fewer hands to do the job non stop. you're just offering more specifics than my surface level suggestion.
Just a thought I had, why not build small collector units separate the FeO and turn it into Iron sand/pallets idk for Iron production? Yea it might not be very rentabel but it will clean the water and Produce a a thing that can be widly used.
This is incredible! I'm from Ohio! The pollution from the coal mines have changed the life in the rivers forever. Some places the water is almost undrinkable
I’m all in for this idea because I live in Pennsylvania where most of our economy in my area was coal mining and if you look hard enough you will see the effects on the environment. I also enjoy fishing and I believe cleaning up the streams and ponds we have is essential for life like fish and plants to survive and thrive.
Ohio was hit particularly bad and was one of the most polluted states in the US at one point. Cuyahoga Valley National Park is actually on land donated to the federal government by Ohio because the Cuyahoga River was so polluted that the State of Ohio couldn’t get it to stop catching on fire.
I like how they make it sound like this is some chemical byproduct of mining.... AMD is mineral water that is created by nature when water mixes with acidic rock. "Normally" this happens deeper underground, the fact that mines open cavities near the surface just means we get to see it in larger quantities on the surface than we normally would. Is it bad for the environment, well yes, any water that is too acidic or base can harm plants and fish; but don't make it sound like miners were dumping metric tons of chemicals to cause this. This is a simple water and rock reaction.
Um what? Are you a coal lobbyist? The water looks like that because of that mine. Before the mine it didnt. It is leaking from the mine air vents. If that mine had never been there the water would have never looked like that. The chemical they are clearly discussing, Fe2O3, is poisonious including to humans. Yes, rust happens in nature, but this river is filled with rust specifically because of this mine. Embarrassing level of denial. Drink some I dare you.
@@ertavampy4622 I think you missed my point. It is pollution, and it is caused by the mine. I wish they wouldn't make it seem like it is a chemical compound. It's caused by water and rock. I wouldn't drink that stream even if Iron(III) oxide wasn't in it.
“Iron oxide didn’t do anything wrong” The exact same with plastics. It’s never the material, it’s always the people. Blaming the material and replacing it with something else will not solve the problem. It’ll be the same problem but a different material
This is Genius! Old Red paint used to use Rust to give the red color. Linseed Oil (Made from Hempseeds!) mixed with Rust and I think they added milk at times too.
This is why mining companies need to carry on with ideas like this! The waste we leave is a resource if people really give a rip. I live just south of Portland and am going to visit this company.
This is really great. I hope that their products are cost-competitive, because then businesses and mines will have a good incentive to clean all of the rivers.
Even if it isn't, that should be subsidized by the government to make it so. If they subsidize companies that do the polluting then they sure need to subsidized those that clean up too.
@@Call-me-Al they don't subsidize compoanies that add to pollution infact they have to pay a cost for it
Swedes have done this for over 400 years. That's why all houses in Sweden are red. It's called "Falu red" and comes from Dalarna coppermines (Wikipedia it). Also... It is better to avoid AMD at all. By either covering and hindering oxidation of the sulfuric mine waste, or by neutralizing it with alkali material that can keep buffering the pH at neutralize levels until the minewaste isnt reactive. This is better for the enviroment.
It is wierd to brand this as something new that helps the enviroment. When this is not something new and its not the best option for the enviroment.
@@Bondebillforlife Interesting.
@@sekaikage Sure its better than doing nothing. But this is not a solution to the problem that AMD cause. I had to say something because it is common to see Americans brand things wrong just to earn money. AMD is something you should thrive to avoid. This wont help leaching of heavy metals and low pH in water. This just seems like a way to justify not paying for real treatment of the mine waste. Judging by how it is presented in the report.
I have seen other videos of mines in America and it seems like you have wierd regolatory bodies over there. You rather let the enviroment disaster happen and deal with it later. Than to just deal with it before it happens.. Its like, you rather pay later, even if it will cost exponentially more. +Have done damage to nature. Please stop this kind of thinking as to not screw over future generations. Just because some problems take long time to develope doesnt mean you can ignore them.
I love the way they are trying their best to clean the environment. They might be small in number, but they are having a great impact to the world.
Swedes have done this for over 400 years. That's why all houses in Sweden are red. It's called "Falu red" and comes from Dalarna coppermines (Wikipedia it). Also... It is better to avoid AMD at all. By either covering and hindering oxidation of the sulfuric mine waste, or by neutralizing it with alkali material that can keep buffering the pH at neutralize levels until the minewaste isnt reactive. This is better for the enviroment.
It is wierd to brand this as something new that helps the enviroment. When this is not something new and its not the best option for the enviroment.
@@Bondebillforlife based swede for once
Hopefully more great people like these great people will keep finding ways to clean up our environment 💚💚💚💚💚
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Damn right. Our time on earth gets shorter and shorter as man made waste increases.
Don’t hope for great people like these but instead take inspiration from them and do great things yourself
And also make an absolute killing off of it
I've permanently removed elastic hair ties from my life. Never have to buy a product to keep long hair in check. I use a hair stick. They last years longer anyways, with no elastic to wear out.
Actually one can prevent this pollution, which is happening in Germany in the Ruhrgebiet. This is a former region where havy coal mining has taken place. Nowadays we do have pumps in the mines that prevent the AMD to rise up to the groundwater. This has to be continued until infinity (also to prevent some cities, which dropped due to the mining, from drowning), but protects the environment and keeps the groundwater safe to use for drink water purposes
Unfortunately the US prioritizes business and profits and isn't gonna jump to stop things like this. Probably excuses like there's no money or something
definitely needs some automation... they said a decade of harvesting..
@@ronmanson3000 that is what i was thinking, like a motor that runs on solar could take the iron oxide to a higher up tank and they just collect it from there
hmm... So what about Intel?
I was thinking of something similar, and am sort of surprised that the EPA hasn't crackdown on this specific case. These people are not developing solutions to stop pollution, they are taking advantage of pollution.
There is a paint called Falu Red that has been in use since 17th century. It is made from mine byproducts and contains iron oxides.
Wow 😯
@Fredrik Larsson
"The pigment used in Falu Rödfärg comes from ore-mining in the Falun Mine. The ore from the mine is hand-sorted, and stones with *too low a copper content* are put to the side in what are known as waste heaps. *Iron oxide, which gives the pigment its red colour,* is caused by the presence of iron, pyrite, pyrrhotite and chalcopyrite in the ore. When ironbearing minerals decompose, a limonite is formed which is yellow or yellowishbrown in colour."
@Fredrik Larsson no no, I just copy pasted from the official site. I too learned about the color in grundskolan and was taught it was iron, but the site repeatedly stresses that it contains 20 different minerals which gives the pigment a different light interaction (and also wood protection qualities) than just plain iron oxide.
@Fredrik Larsson cheap and practical. Hat off to Sweden.
@@Call-me-Al The coppar in Falu rödfärg killes all algi and bakteria as long as there is paint left on the wall. If it was just iron oxide the houses would mold and root in a year.
when she said "these streams will be producing iron oxide for hundreds of years" I really felt the weight of their whole efforts. That's insane.
Iron oxide is an important ingredient in many products. It would be great to see this scaled up to the point where all of these old mine sites become wellsprings of raw materials.
Love these people and how they're changing their particular corner of the world for the better. 💜🌎
This seems at least one excellent approach to solving a problem that exists. Good going. Hope it can be expanded to further types of paint production.
Wow you Americans hurt the enviorment.
This is such a wonderful idea. If I can ever afford it, I would love to buy some of that paint. It seems like beautiful earthy tones. Keep up the work!
same
Swedes have done this for over 400 years. That's why all houses in Sweden are red. It's called "Falu red" and comes from Dalarna coppermines (Wikipedia it). Also... It is better to avoid AMD at all. By either covering and hindering oxidation of the sulfuric mine waste, or by neutralizing it with alkali material that can keep buffering the pH at neutralize levels until the minewaste isnt reactive. This is better for the enviroment.
It is wierd to brand this as something new that helps the enviroment. When this is not something new and its not the best option for the enviroment.
@@Bondebillforlife Nobody is branding this as something new. The motivation is new because nobody ever cared before until these people did.
And why are you so salty about the idea of these people cleaning up the environment for? Are swedish people like that? Instead of appreciating or encouraging efforts to clean up the environment, you are selling the idea that americans should not do it because swedes already did it. What a bitter and bad person you are.
this is not hes profiting from it not helping anything just transfering the issue to paper that well is not doing anything and hes making money not cool at all
@@Bondebillforlife it's sti better than doing nothing than most of the mines so
How wonderful. I will keep my eye out for these paints. I am an artist whose grandfather was a coal miner. It would be nice to create something special to honor my grandfather with the paint. Great concept!
That sounds so sweet ❤
For many years I worked a a local facility that had a huge recycling facility on the property. But this paint is one of the best ideas I have seen 8n a long time. prayers for your continued success.
Fascinating! My lecturer once wanted my class to make pigments out of rain mud but well the lack of facilities stood in our way. As a studying industrial chemist I can say, the smoothness comes from the sedimentation of particles, iron oxide (Fe3+ is brown) is the colour imparting agent as it is a transition element with the presence of d-orbitals, and the application of heat does change the color because heat is a form of energy and different energies are associated with different colours on the visible spectrum (colours visible to the eye). Hope you learnt something 😊
Great project.
A profoundly tiny drop in the bucket of overall pollution.
Got to start somewhere. Not polluting the environment out of the goodness of a company's heart doesn't work, no one does anything to criminalise it, so why not show them how they could be making profit from waste. Then polluting is like throwing away money
@@sinthorana2814 Depends how profitable it is and whether or not they feel that time money could be better invested elsewhere. If anything it's more about recouping some lost costs while boosting public image
@@sinthorana2814 I’m sure you have no role to play in these “evil companies” I’m sure you’re not depending on it for your goods and services oh holy one
@@sinthorana2814 maybe we should do something to criminalise environmental damage
@@dat_crit_combo7039 I love that idea. People have no sense of how expensive it is to clean up after previous generations.
Finally... someone actually DOING something about water pollution instead of just complaining. Great job👍😎
Wow I'd buy this paint for sure. The company that caused the damage from the coal mine should pay this company for doing their dirty work.
In that area most of the coal mines closed last century
This company is not doing the dirty work, other countries and even places in America have methods to prevent mines from leaking into water ways. There is something very weird going on in this video, and I would not be surprised if the EPA starts looking into this specific case.
@@barodrinksbeer7484 what was wierd about it?
@@barodrinksbeer7484 it’s was shut down 100 yrs ago.
@@barodrinksbeer7484 Can you explain furthur? I wanna know
This is incredible to me. When i was younger i got the chance to do some research at a college in western MD where we did some tests on the streams there to see how both the AMD and a slag bed (which was intended on evening out the PH in the streams) affected the stream life. And completely removing all the particulates as much as possible is such a great idea. Beyond this i can see this becoming applicable with other dissolved materials beyond iron oxide with other forms of AMD. Imagine the greens of oxidized copper just as one thought! I really hope this is further expanded in time across all different places where abandoned mines seem to litter the landscape.
The giant abandoned copper strip mine in Butte, MT is a neighbor of mine. Even after the Superfund cleanup, I still see green and aqua puddles every time it rains.
The Arkansas River in Colorado went all orange in the 80s after the Yak Tunnel blew. It's recovered and is now the longest stretch of Gold Water Trout fishing in the state.
How do they recovered it btw? Really curious
@@bluey3575 its just iron oxide so after a certain amount of time it will redistribute to natural levels.
The issue is only that there is so much of it, so likely diminishing the release of the iron oxide helped.
@@bluey3575 In the Arkansas River the EPA deployed a system of pumps which allowed them to clear out the mines, they still do it in specific areas during specific times of the year. Realistically that's what they should be doing with this case, the way its going right now is improperly managed.
I like their energy. It's less of devastation and rather just excitement of recycling something harmful, but also useful for other reasons. 🤔👍
Learned something new and if it's an nearly unlimited resource and a benefit to the environment getting cleaned up, than use than it in everything possible.
Amazing how people come up with stuff like this, just sad how it seems like a never ending task. Thank you for bringing their business to world's attention!
Iron Oxide or what we like to call it: Rust.
Yea thats what i was thinking too, they make it seem like its some type of nuclear waste in this video. It’s just rust….
@@questv2661 rust that will disappear slowly, they’re just speeding up the process of the iron oxide naturally going away.
But eh, at least they’re doing it.
Somebody needs to tell the diorama maker community, they're gonna adore this stuff
I wish they sold these on their website. None of the stores using the store locator pulled up this paint at hand 🤨. This could really take off. I hope the accessibility and expansion of it in 2024 booms!
It's sold at blick art materials if that helps. If the store doesn't regularly carry gamblin products I don't think they'll have this.
I Googled iron oxide and the paint was at the top of the search. 😮
They do sell it on the Gamblin online store.
The more i watch this, the more i realize not all mining companies are concerned about their impact on the environment. We have some that are concerned and try to do what they can to reduce their impact (creating sediment pond, water treatment facility, planned water flow, etc) and even more company are just dumping everything out. I am just grateful that i work in the company that tries to do it the right way
As a painter and someone who loves nature, this makes me happy and making me think if I use this paint to sell, I can create eco friend paintings which money is donated to the environment.
I lived around coal mines for most of my younger years, they did fill in their catacombs of caves etc, as required by law but not much else, it is methane gas stations that are just as lethal to Mother Nature and the animals when abandoned as well. I love what they are doing I’m an artist and would love to get involved spreading the word that we can change the world one bucket at a time.
Ty for all you guys are doing!!
Now this is useful! Need more ingenuity and resourcefulness such as this. Recycle up cycle!
As an artist and a nature lover, this paint gets me so excited
I'm not gonna lie, I am surprised this isn't already used to just mine iron. Separate the iron oxide and just make it iron. This is also a great way to use it though.
that is what i was thinking
Obtaining metal back once its oxidized is really tough and expensive.
Bog iron was an industry in colonial America.
Unfortunately a lack of available coal meant that many forests were piled high and burned into charcoal to create the bloom and forge it down.
Look at the history of the Berkshires in western Massachusetts.
It seems ironic that 300 years later the coal mines are now the source of oxides
@@dronzerdanks7163 all iron ore commercially mined is iron oxide. Most ores of any metal are oxidized. Only a few metals can be found naturally in their elemental state, copper, silver, gold, and platinum.
Because of this video I just bought some of these paints. Not only to support this initiative but I can't wait to try them out !
How was it? Has it come?
@@thesparks00 not yet, will let you know
Really inspiring to see the creativity and ingenuity from these people solving huge problems in nature ❤
The iron oxide can also be used in many many other things including sparklers, rockets, and steel
Thermite!
RIO is a great burn rate catalyst, and an important pigment.
if you have a steel industry there's already plenty of oxide (scale) from the rolling mills.
While I appreciate this sort of artisanal harvest, to truly clean up the waste seeping from even one of these mines is a huge undertaking.
And coal is not near the worst of it compared to ore mines where it's things like sulphur and lead leaching out of the mountains of tailings.
@@jimurrata6785 I do agree, it might not be enough to truly clean up the mine site, but is it better than doing nothing? Yes. Above all, it's inspiring.
I also agree that coal mines are by far the most docile, currently the real "elephant in the room" is mining alkali metals, especially lithium - the EV market share is booming, and while I don't think they're bad, mining lithium needs to be regulated.
@@lazar2175 Pretty much _any_ kind of extractive process needs regulation.
Ore, coal, oil, water, whatever...
And while I'm glad the group featured here can feel good making lemonade from the consequences inflicted on their community, much of the legacy of the pigment industry they are supporting is very ugly.
Dioxin purple, arsenic (Paris) green, cadmium yellow and red, cobalt blue, lead white, brown, yellow, black, red and _many_ more. Not to mention aniline dyes extracted from coal tar...
Even something as seemingly benign and ubiquitous as titanium white have sometimes fatal effects.
The "earth tones" ochre, sienna and umber are probably the most eco-friendly. But we humans like bright and shiny.
I think it's great that these people are taking the initiative to do something that lessens the load on their environment.
If only we all could! Especially the corporations who exploit this planet.
@@lazar2175 Hopefully the majority of future lithium mining will come from brine extraction.
Perhaps the effluent of desalination plants?
That would offer all kinds of raw stock and prevent the imbalance of dumping it back into our precious oceans.
I think only a small amount of people profit from the paint sales.the owners of the company..unless they are spending some of their profits to try and completely stop that runoff that they collect to make money,and in the end,eventually put themselves out of business..lol.i doubt they want that..but,this video is a good thing because it's brings light to coal mining waste water,etc..I and I'm sure most people had no idea that this is occurring,so,probably making this informative video even more important overall than the actual tiny dent trying to make that runoff waste into paint..so.well done to this video for sharing this info.
This is mind blowing. Most of us only talk about climate and environment, while some of us plant a few trees or participate in group activities. But these people are doing something that'll really help our world
Awesome job keep it up. It's nice to know there are other real ppl trying to help this world when so many don't really care about anything.
This? This is brilliant. This is something to invest in. This is something that could be utilized in numerous industries and would be beneficial across the board. Not just an environmental benefit; think of the jobs this can create, the communities this method can assist. This is the sort of Innovation we desperately need and can be started NOW
To bad the iron oxide wasn’t collected at the source before it polluted the streams.
How could they do it? Is it feasible and/or safe?
@Howard bro i actually choked lmfao.
@Howard the source is a mine deep underground. These mines were built decades and in many cases centuries ago before the effects of their pollution were fully known. Today it would be virtually impossible to stop the pollution at the source without a time machine. Sad, but just the way things are.
@Howard which is why you should understand what I’m saying- according to your own government, mine waste is one of the biggest pollutants in the UK
@Howard what a pathetic attempt at an insult, go to sleep you have school tomorrow
I pray that these company runs longer. Please, even if nobody do it, only you, don't stop.
Ceramics artists should hop on board with this. Iron oxide is the most common pigment used to color ceramics in the United States, but it is primarily synthetic and depends on the mining of ore (or the burning of other ferrous materials) to create. With as much as they get in this run off, turning some into ceramics colorants could really help to reclaim the iron oxide pollution and possibly reduce the mining and other operations which probably create their own waste creating synthetic iron oxides for pottery.
I'm definitely using that in my next painting. Thank you for cleaning the pollution and giving us beautiful colours😊
I love the idea of using pollution for paint but I wish there was something to stop old mines from producing pollution in the first place like lavender fields or something like that
It's great to hear a story where good people work hard to help make our planet a better place, a healthier place.
Sounds like a really fair idea. And they should over price it that way more people are eager to scoop up more of it. Especially if it's not gonna stop..
If they over price it would get less buyers, the only buyers are the people who can afford it
This makes me smile as well as grateful. I’m American Indian who’s naturally in tune with Mother Earth. My ancestors have lived off of her for centuries. Today we’re in such dire need of change bc of such poor environmental neglect. If we do not act now we put our children’s jeopardy at sake.
Your team is doing such a fantastic job! I hope it inspires others to keep creating solutions like this to help our environment recover from all the pollutions.
This shows one man's waste is others gold
Mineral iron oxide as a pigment has been used for thousands upon thousands of years. It's really inspiring that iron oxide from AMD is being made into pigment here because it's the same base pigment that was used for red and yellow in the cave paintings at Lascaux 17,000 years ago, in church and castle artwork in the Middle Ages, and by artists in the Renaissance. It's been a staple of our art for all of human history, and now we're using that continued tradition to clean up our mine pollution. That's reason enough for me to want some of this paint; think of clean water, and think of Lascaux.
What a Masterpiece!!! Thanks to all people involved in the project, workers and volonteers! That's ART
Those guys are amazing turning garbage into fine craft.
This is something to be supported and respected! Not driving electric cars hours per day , charged without green energy!
Yes, good start, need more people on this, could make a whole new market.
Wow! I am a professional painter, you have inspired me…
Thank you for looking after our beautiful earth! Our home ❤️
I really appreciate your team from my bottom of my heart. Your hardwork is reducing not much but little pollution.. I hope that you will still continue to be a blessing to the world by reducing and recycling the pollution..
Hats off to the team...
This is one of the best businesses I've watched in this channel. Some businesses doesn't really help eliminate waste. They just claim to be "eco-friendly".
he's not an artist, he's an entrepreneur!
Amazing. We need more efforts like this all over the world
Kudos to them for coming up with such a brilliant idea!!
This is great. So glad to see. One man’s broken down abandoned coal mine, is a others iron oxide harvesting gold mine. Awesome
Hope it install at Mamut mine at Sabah, Malaysia. Mamut Mine (Malay: Lombong Mamut) is an abandoned open-pit quarry mine located in the Ranau District of Sabah, Malaysia where from 1975 to 1999 various minerals primarily copper including some gold and silver were mined. The mine is known as Malaysia's only copper mine. Since its closure and subsequent abandonment, waters have filled the mine which is toxic to consumption due to its highly acidic nature as unfeasible and costly since even if the water could be treated with acid mine drainage (AMD) method to neutralise its acidity, other minerals and heavy metals are still present in the water that made it unfit for human consumption and need more cost to clean the water.
As an artist myself, I would love to use a paint like this.
Absolutely beautiful, the effort, the colors, the love you have for what your doing, just absolutely beautiful!! ❤
We need more people in this world willing to try new things like this
Everyone who reads this, we don't know each other and probably never will but I wish you all the best in life and all the luck in the world 🥰💓🥰🙂😃🙂😃
Thank You... Likewise.
Thank you Michelle and John for your initiative and perseverance in developing this industry. Thank you for doing Something to help remove some of the dangerous chemicals from the waterways and having it recycled into something useful. Thank you to your team and all of your collaborators in the chain.
I think this is more like a drop trying to empty the titanic with a tea cup after the iceberg hit. The only way this would have chance of making a difference. That was what 100kg of rust? And how much resources, time and energy was used to it.
For this to make a difference you'd need massive industrial scale extraction of this stuff systematically. Then turning that in to something. Price of iron ain't enough to justify this as a source of iron considering the amount of effort cleaning it would take; however that is something that would be needed.
In actuality. We should be going to old mines and taking the tailings and extract every last mineral from them for something. No point blowing up a mine and leaving stuff unused. There are lots of stuff the ranging from many common metals in small quantities and uranium. (No the uranium doesn't disappear if you don't process the rock, so if you gonna have a pile of rock you might aswell use it, including the uranium).
Once bigger companies hear of this, I hope they add this to their paint colors and other products.
Taht's good stuff, seems like those guys need to upscale their collection opperation a bit, though, like affix a pump into a collection tank, to bypass the bucket brigade; it makes me wonder, though, how much iron oxide is in that mine, like...you can't pull acid sludge forever, and I'm sure on a certain level, everyone is looking forward to it running dry. if only so they can switch to a different mine, and be glad that it's clean. but until then, gotta be better methods than bucket brigade.
Not just that, but throw in a few continous flow centrifuges into the inline process ...
@@nigelft Oh I'm probably with you on that, all in the name of "many hands make light work but automation requires fewer hands to do the job non stop. you're just offering more specifics than my surface level suggestion.
The company's idea and effort are admirable. I hope that they will succeed in expanding their operations and raising more awareness.
Just a thought I had, why not build small collector units separate the FeO and turn it into Iron sand/pallets idk for Iron production? Yea it might not be very rentabel but it will clean the water and Produce a a thing that can be widly used.
I am excited to try these paints out. The colors are gorgeous! What you are doing to save our planet is more than words could say. Thank you
Great job guys! You turned a problem into an opportunity 🙏
This is incredible! I'm from Ohio! The pollution from the coal mines have changed the life in the rivers forever. Some places the water is almost undrinkable
I’m all in for this idea because I live in Pennsylvania where most of our economy in my area was coal mining and if you look hard enough you will see the effects on the environment. I also enjoy fishing and I believe cleaning up the streams and ponds we have is essential for life like fish and plants to survive and thrive.
Wow. Just amazing what we humans can do when we came together. I commend this group of people for there innovative way.
Nice they were able to find a use for it!!
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up as a support
Wow this is genius! Making paint out of pollution. I’d be sure to buy this paint if they make watercolors!
If only there were more people who actually acted on helping the environment vs the vast majority of people who just talk about it!!
These people are amazing!
I wish more people like them will take things into their hands and make a change!
Man SEEING this kind of thing especially in the US is a REAL downer. Hopefully we humans will learn someday. And kudos to these artists…
Ohio was hit particularly bad and was one of the most polluted states in the US at one point. Cuyahoga Valley National Park is actually on land donated to the federal government by Ohio because the Cuyahoga River was so polluted that the State of Ohio couldn’t get it to stop catching on fire.
Whoa! As an artist even I was thinking of this ..why can't we produce paint out of waste , Great team work 👍 would like to use the paint
I like how they make it sound like this is some chemical byproduct of mining.... AMD is mineral water that is created by nature when water mixes with acidic rock. "Normally" this happens deeper underground, the fact that mines open cavities near the surface just means we get to see it in larger quantities on the surface than we normally would. Is it bad for the environment, well yes, any water that is too acidic or base can harm plants and fish; but don't make it sound like miners were dumping metric tons of chemicals to cause this. This is a simple water and rock reaction.
That doesn’t mean negligence wasn’t there
Um what? Are you a coal lobbyist? The water looks like that because of that mine. Before the mine it didnt. It is leaking from the mine air vents. If that mine had never been there the water would have never looked like that. The chemical they are clearly discussing, Fe2O3, is poisonious including to humans. Yes, rust happens in nature, but this river is filled with rust specifically because of this mine. Embarrassing level of denial. Drink some I dare you.
@@ErinRaciell truth
@@ertavampy4622 I think you missed my point. It is pollution, and it is caused by the mine. I wish they wouldn't make it seem like it is a chemical compound. It's caused by water and rock. I wouldn't drink that stream even if Iron(III) oxide wasn't in it.
Personally, I prefer Intel but you don't need to call AMD toxic.
This is amazing! Toxic material turned into a product, more companies should do this.
Huge respect for them
As a person who love nature and painting I love how they created a great idea to safe not only the nature but half of the earth 🌍🤎🤎🤎
I hope this takes off & you folks get the investments you need for this to become really big ! So much needs cleaned up .
Thank to those great people. Thank you for helping this world a little bit better place!
“Iron oxide didn’t do anything wrong”
The exact same with plastics.
It’s never the material, it’s always the people.
Blaming the material and replacing it with something else will not solve the problem.
It’ll be the same problem but a different material
Blaming shits wont bring you anywhere. Go here and start using your energy to help us
@@yonathanrakau1783 ?
This is Genius! Old Red paint used to use Rust to give the red color. Linseed Oil (Made from Hempseeds!) mixed with Rust and I think they added milk at times too.
Iron oxide is rust
Cleanest creek in Ohio
This is why mining companies need to carry on with ideas like this! The waste we leave is a resource if people really give a rip. I live just south of Portland and am going to visit this company.
yes more of this please i love the initiative
This is amazing! It is incredibly when people do this things and use creativity to solve our mistakes
This is so amazing! Can't wait to see this effort to scale up. Congrats for cleaning nature!
Idk about using it in cosmetics, but it looks cool for everything else!
Iron oxides are already commonly used in cosmetics
“Then they move the iron oxide to their research facility...” -cut to a bunch of hippies in a field with some 5 gallon buckets 🤣😂🤣😂
I love this idea. Using a companies toxic waste to make money and provide a paint for artists. Great job people
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Fantastic story… these are the unsung heroes 🦸♂️ & heroine 🦸♀️ 👍🙏👏🥰 Thank 🙇 you all!
Isn’t iron oxide…. Just rust?
Yes, rust is toxic for aquatic life in high concentrations
yes
On a molecular level, yes. However, rust specifically refers to iron oxide formed on iron or steel by oxidation.
Stories like this give me hope for our planet. Well done to all involved!