Agreed. I also appreciate the easy banter and veering off topic. It's really nice to hear the conversation between people so well versed in their respective industries. I'd be happy if this were even a four plus series!
As a New Mexican, I immediately started to do a google. Then my surprise as I typed "Robert Evans magistrate judge" and google auto completes with the city 20 minutes from where I live.
12:30 I was also raised as a Jehovah's Witness so I'm shocked I didn't know this one. This is why the joke exists that JWs are Scientology for black people. Other celebrities with some association to that religion include Prince, Michael Jackson, Venus and Serena, Donald Glover, Terrance Howard and more.
He's expecting a drive-by from Katee Sackhoff (she has a sci-fi podcast) any day now after rolling through her home turf of Oregon without getting permission.
@@lemonielala3080 Its actually the same podcast, it just looks like two because it motions back and forth really fast. Only when observed does it look like one or the other. Isnt science amazing?
To go full circle here, Suge Knight literally was an NFL player. He played two games at defensive end (makes sense - he's 6'2" and 265 pounds) for the Rams as a scab in the '87 strike.
The Aaron Hall thing is WAAAYYYY creepier if you've ever heard the song "Don't Be Afraid". It already seemed like a suspect song if you just go along with the premise being consentual. Now, add dubious ages and Puffy to the mix.
Sophie telling Robert that Riverdale is bad despite the 3rd season being centered on a drug-addled D&D cult obsessed with a lovecraftian horror is a bummer
@@jeanief.6036 yeah, exactly, it’s also why the later seasons are better. But it’s never wrong to point out that riverdale is bad. The plot’s always been a mess, because the writing is atrocious.
It should be noted that Tupac actually started out as friends with Diddy. (They were both dancers on a Season 3 episode of _In Living Color_ - the episode with Heavy D & the Boys’ “You Can’t See What I Can See.”) Bad Boy Records’ player image was explicitly based off of 2Pac’s “I Get Around,” and he’d briefly considered signing to Bad Boy around that time. The relationship between the two soured quickly by 1994; the Quad City shooting seems to be a mix of Diddy’s newfound antipathy - motivated in no small part by overpowering jealousy - and 2Pac mouthing off to Diddy’s business partner Jimmy Henchman the day before. (Biggie’s been established to have had no involvement in the shooting, which Tupac seems to have been informed of before his death). Suge Knight also started out as friends with Diddy (and Jimmy Henchman, for that matter). There’s less information about how this went sour - only that they hated each other by 1993, and that Suge bailed out & signed 2Pac over their shared dislike. The two actually convened a Las Vegas meeting of NY rappers in late summer of ‘96 to launch Death Row East & squash the Death Row/Bad Boy beef…the meeting fell through after Diddy straight-up refused to attend the meetings. (As an aside: Suge choked out Andre Harrell on Mary J. Blige’s behalf in ‘94, as Harrell & Combs had really messed with Mary’s financials. This was why there was a rift between Sean & Mary from 1994-2001…and also why Mary never got along with Faith Evans, whose career Diddy boosted to spite Mary). Biggie’s friendship with Diddy seems…dubious. Sean was always jealous that Big was closer with Tupac, and for his part Biggie seems to have thought of Diddy as a snake: At the time of his death, he was all but set to jump to Lance Rivera’s Undeas Records, which would’ve killed Bad Boy outright. (Lending credence to this is just how little luck Bad Boy has had retaining rappers _after_ Biggie’s death). Big wasn’t even supposed to be at the VIBE Awards that night - he was supposed to be in London to promote _Life After Death_, but Diddy forced a change of plans at the last second, and Los Angeles was known as hostile territory. So. Jennifer Lopez…seems to have *never* actually _liked_ Diddy, her feelings being some mix of fear & hatred. She first met him for the “Been Around the World” video; she said in her Biography episode that she actually disliked him at first, only warming to him because her first marriage was dying at the time. Their breakup was on extremely bad terms - she cited callous infidelity on his part, avoided him for the next decade, and only actually associated with him during J-Rod. Jennifer obliquely referred to him being abusive in her autobiography - that his feeling for her “wasn’t real love; it was passion,” and that she only stayed in the relationship because of his love-bombing.
@@SgtKaneGunlock Yeah, “Diddy’s friends in rap all learn to hate him” is as noteworthy a throughline in his career as the Bad Boy Curse. I actually got the feeling that Diddy was going down way back in *July*…_2023_, because of Buckwild’s interview with The Sample Lounge. Buckwild was one of the very few people in the biz to never badmouth Diddy…yet in that interview, he revealed that a) he lost three _J.Lo_ placements - including what’d become “I Love You” - specifically because of the Club New York shooting, and b) he confirmed a previously-denied claim that Diddy put a sample embargo of Love Unlimited’s “Under the Influence of Love,” hence why his version of Big Pun’s “Dream Shatterer” wasn’t officially released until after Pun’s death.
Bro, Bel Air should not be included with Riverdale in this convo. Bel Air is actually a pretty decent coming of age drama. From a black perspective, it does a decent job of covering things that our young people actually deal with. The fly in the milk stuff hits me where I live regularly. Edit: grammar and spelling
Camcorders were expensive and big enough to take a VHS tape back in 1991, but they were pretty simple to use. You just pushed a record button. You just couldn't see a playback unless you hooked the camera into a tv. Diddy could easily have operated a camcorder without much expertise.
Where Episode 3 and 4? That ended so apruptly. It's like you trashtalked so much that you got only half way through with the story. That was excellent, we need more. Best guest ever!
Yeah he talked much, but it added to the story and it was hilarious. So I saw there is indeed a third episode, at least in my RSS feed. Sounded like they*re only going to make 2 at the beginning.
When Shane mentioned the death row tapes I genuinly thought he was talking about a stock of litteral death row tapes with the last words of executed people. That were found and put on tiktok.
The interesting thing about 'I'll be missing you'... is that Sting makes an estimated 23 million GBP a year from that song alone... which is why you gotta get permission. And the income from the song is equal to every other song in Sting's catalogue. So that one song provides 50% of the entire income. Crazy numbers. Combs was MASSIVE here in the UK. He went out partying with Chris Evans (the DJ) the night before and didn't appear at his own show... that's how hard they were partying. Very irresponsible, but hearing the full list of crimes is making me feel sick, super-gross. Excellent content!
You didn't know, but it's true... Faith Hill was in the car with Tupac when he was shot; it inspired the first draft of Breathe. She had to do some revisions.
As a suburban white kid in the 90s, a significant percentage of the kids i knew thought they were gangsters. The most privileged white kids imaginable walking around with do rags and chains.
am i just super unobservant? i never noticed the tattoo on roberts hand - tho to be fair they havent been doing video episodes very long. what is that?
It is the symbol from the flag of the Kronstadt sailor rebels during the Russian Civil War, who attempted to initiate a next (even more left wing) uprising against the Bolsheviks
The guest interrupted so much. I loved his inside info and takes but I found myself getting annoyed with his constant interruptions. Otherwise loved all of it!
@@the_newt_nestspeaking as a bisexual: i ain’t claiming him as an icon. He wants to think that while he’s in jail, cool. He’s not an icon for me, and i think i can confidently say that for the rest of us.
Finally I know what it is like to be french hearing Robert butchering Jodeci. Like R&B was such a large part of my childhood that it seems alien that someone couldn't pronounce their name right. Goddamn lmao
i mean, i will find it myself, but the names should be in the description. First time viewer, dont know "will". Its not Will Smith i guess, he has 4 Grammys.
I mean I respect Robert as a judge more than justice beer pong on the SC
That's SCJ Bart Kegstand you're referring to! Show some respect!
@@keepyourbilsteinseven more impressive, I think judge Brett lite is only the 4th/5th worst justice on the court, which is kinda incredible
@@Michael-tw7rw oof
Werd
The honorable Judge Reverend Doctor Robert Evans.
LOL Esq., M.D.
As a New Mexican, Robert is now the only judge i will allow to make rullings in any cases im involved in.
Time to appoint Robert to SCOTUS
I like how Robert pretends he wasn't marrying people and making urine gunpowder before becoming a judge.
Love Will's insight into the music industry for this one. Looking forward to seeing him on the pod in the future.
Agreed. I also appreciate the easy banter and veering off topic. It's really nice to hear the conversation between people so well versed in their respective industries. I'd be happy if this were even a four plus series!
Great episode, Your Honor!
As a New Mexican, I immediately started to do a google. Then my surprise as I typed "Robert Evans magistrate judge" and google auto completes with the city 20 minutes from where I live.
That Will and Robert were buddies in Plano as kids will always rock my headspace.
The fact that there was a reference to diddy in Scary Movie really shows how known it was
Wait what? I don't remember that, though admittedly it's been a while.
If you’re going to call yourself a judge we need a full wig and robes
12:30 I was also raised as a Jehovah's Witness so I'm shocked I didn't know this one. This is why the joke exists that JWs are Scientology for black people. Other celebrities with some association to that religion include Prince, Michael Jackson, Venus and Serena, Donald Glover, Terrance Howard and more.
Oh shit, THAT'S why Troy from Community is a Jehovah's witness.....
The new Interview show is so good. Unexpectedly so.
Also the description in this episode might could read “Judge Robert”
A series about vampire judges would have been so much more interesting than the one we got about vampire high schoolers.
Part of me says that it should be set in the Old West, but that's negotiable.
KNOWLEDGE FIGHT WILL NEVER HURT YOU!
Praise be the Celine.
It's beginning to look like....Diddy is about to get as many parts as Vince McMahon. 😂😂
They should share a cell together in confinement.
Well it’s like Will pointed out, diddy’s got a 30+ year legacy of doing this shit. It would genuinely surprise me if this wasn’t a 4 parter.
Robert droppin the twelve days of diddy for the holidays
Underrated comment
Behind the Diddler
We all know that Robert is joking about putting hits on other podcasters because behind the bastards is the only podcast
There must be two because Even More News is the only news podcast 🤔
He's expecting a drive-by from Katee Sackhoff (she has a sci-fi podcast) any day now after rolling through her home turf of Oregon without getting permission.
@@lemonielala3080 Its actually the same podcast, it just looks like two because it motions back and forth really fast. Only when observed does it look like one or the other. Isnt science amazing?
Joe Kassabian has Robert's family locked in a basement somewhere, so he's safe. (This is an actual joke Joe made on his own podcast.)
@@lemonielala3080they're the same podcast idk what you're talking about
When Robert gives an inarticulare hollering I get so tickled.
2 episodes and we still don't get to the club shooting with J-Lo? Cool, this is going to be like a 12 part series
To go full circle here, Suge Knight literally was an NFL player. He played two games at defensive end (makes sense - he's 6'2" and 265 pounds) for the Rams as a scab in the '87 strike.
The Aaron Hall thing is WAAAYYYY creepier if you've ever heard the song "Don't Be Afraid". It already seemed like a suspect song if you just go along with the premise being consentual. Now, add dubious ages and Puffy to the mix.
I am just realizing how weird it was to be one of the suburban white children who was real into all this when I was 12 😂
Finally the internet has a podcast where two white guys explain the Tupac and Biggie beef! lol. Love you guys.
White guys LOVE history.
Justice Robert should appoint me as his assistant, I have no experience in the legal field but that means I have a 100% success rate
Sophie telling Robert that Riverdale is bad despite the 3rd season being centered on a drug-addled D&D cult obsessed with a lovecraftian horror is a bummer
But riverdale is terrible….
@aviendha1154 that's why it's so great!
Riverdale started out as generically bad but then became a camp fun sort of bad and I gotta respect that
@@jeanief.6036 yeah, exactly, it’s also why the later seasons are better. But it’s never wrong to point out that riverdale is bad. The plot’s always been a mess, because the writing is atrocious.
@@aviendha1154and thats why we love it sooooo much
It should be noted that Tupac actually started out as friends with Diddy. (They were both dancers on a Season 3 episode of _In Living Color_ - the episode with Heavy D & the Boys’ “You Can’t See What I Can See.”) Bad Boy Records’ player image was explicitly based off of 2Pac’s “I Get Around,” and he’d briefly considered signing to Bad Boy around that time. The relationship between the two soured quickly by 1994; the Quad City shooting seems to be a mix of Diddy’s newfound antipathy - motivated in no small part by overpowering jealousy - and 2Pac mouthing off to Diddy’s business partner Jimmy Henchman the day before. (Biggie’s been established to have had no involvement in the shooting, which Tupac seems to have been informed of before his death).
Suge Knight also started out as friends with Diddy (and Jimmy Henchman, for that matter). There’s less information about how this went sour - only that they hated each other by 1993, and that Suge bailed out & signed 2Pac over their shared dislike. The two actually convened a Las Vegas meeting of NY rappers in late summer of ‘96 to launch Death Row East & squash the Death Row/Bad Boy beef…the meeting fell through after Diddy straight-up refused to attend the meetings.
(As an aside: Suge choked out Andre Harrell on Mary J. Blige’s behalf in ‘94, as Harrell & Combs had really messed with Mary’s financials. This was why there was a rift between Sean & Mary from 1994-2001…and also why Mary never got along with Faith Evans, whose career Diddy boosted to spite Mary).
Biggie’s friendship with Diddy seems…dubious. Sean was always jealous that Big was closer with Tupac, and for his part Biggie seems to have thought of Diddy as a snake: At the time of his death, he was all but set to jump to Lance Rivera’s Undeas Records, which would’ve killed Bad Boy outright. (Lending credence to this is just how little luck Bad Boy has had retaining rappers _after_ Biggie’s death). Big wasn’t even supposed to be at the VIBE Awards that night - he was supposed to be in London to promote _Life After Death_, but Diddy forced a change of plans at the last second, and Los Angeles was known as hostile territory. So.
Jennifer Lopez…seems to have *never* actually _liked_ Diddy, her feelings being some mix of fear & hatred. She first met him for the “Been Around the World” video; she said in her Biography episode that she actually disliked him at first, only warming to him because her first marriage was dying at the time. Their breakup was on extremely bad terms - she cited callous infidelity on his part, avoided him for the next decade, and only actually associated with him during J-Rod. Jennifer obliquely referred to him being abusive in her autobiography - that his feeling for her “wasn’t real love; it was passion,” and that she only stayed in the relationship because of his love-bombing.
Damn now thats a healthy dose of context i didn't know i wanted
If you had an old school blog filled with this I would read the shit out of that. So much better than my usual reddit doomscrolling
@@SgtKaneGunlock Yeah, “Diddy’s friends in rap all learn to hate him” is as noteworthy a throughline in his career as the Bad Boy Curse.
I actually got the feeling that Diddy was going down way back in *July*…_2023_, because of Buckwild’s interview with The Sample Lounge. Buckwild was one of the very few people in the biz to never badmouth Diddy…yet in that interview, he revealed that a) he lost three _J.Lo_ placements - including what’d become “I Love You” - specifically because of the Club New York shooting, and b) he confirmed a previously-denied claim that Diddy put a sample embargo of Love Unlimited’s “Under the Influence of Love,” hence why his version of Big Pun’s “Dream Shatterer” wasn’t officially released until after Pun’s death.
I'm so pissed off that Aaron Hall is such a POS; looks like 'Don't Be Afraid' was autobiographical. 😳
Just think: if Tupac had stayed with Digital Underground he might still be alive.
Bro, Bel Air should not be included with Riverdale in this convo. Bel Air is actually a pretty decent coming of age drama. From a black perspective, it does a decent job of covering things that our young people actually deal with. The fly in the milk stuff hits me where I live regularly.
Edit: grammar and spelling
Your Honor, if you think Biggie & Pac were the first dark introspective rapper's pre 1994 holy shit do we have a lot of material to cover.
So now he's Judge Reverend Doctor Robert Evans?
Camcorders were expensive and big enough to take a VHS tape back in 1991, but they were pretty simple to use. You just pushed a record button. You just couldn't see a playback unless you hooked the camera into a tv. Diddy could easily have operated a camcorder without much expertise.
Weirdly related to Interview With a Vampire, possibly the best musical handling and expression of depression now is Raleigh Ritchie.
episodes like this are why cpwdcs and dinowars are absolutely necessary for both hosts and listeners. it hurts.
I will not endure Riverdale slander that show is a hilarious fever dream
Greezy Wil truly is the best of us.
Where Episode 3 and 4? That ended so apruptly. It's like you trashtalked so much that you got only half way through with the story. That was excellent, we need more. Best guest ever!
He talked so much
My favourite is Mr. Peanutbutter.
Yeah he talked much, but it added to the story and it was hilarious. So I saw there is indeed a third episode, at least in my RSS feed. Sounded like they*re only going to make 2 at the beginning.
He's not wrong about knitting circles. We can be quite catty, no hits ordered, but we might felt your sweater or knot up your yarn
Will's voice sounds so much like Rick Sanchez
And he looks like a worn out Justin Timberlake 😛
Now I want a WUBALUBADUBDUB intro.
When Shane mentioned the death row tapes I genuinly thought he was talking about a stock of litteral death row tapes with the last words of executed people. That were found and put on tiktok.
Would not have surprised me.
BTB stands for Back to Back
Love it,came to UA-cam and hi went up 3 minutes ago ❤
"You've always been the honorable Robert Evans" -- aww, :)
Your honor...
The interesting thing about 'I'll be missing you'... is that Sting makes an estimated 23 million GBP a year from that song alone... which is why you gotta get permission. And the income from the song is equal to every other song in Sting's catalogue. So that one song provides 50% of the entire income.
Crazy numbers. Combs was MASSIVE here in the UK. He went out partying with Chris Evans (the DJ) the night before and didn't appear at his own show... that's how hard they were partying. Very irresponsible, but hearing the full list of crimes is making me feel sick, super-gross. Excellent content!
Wil needs to be a guest all the time
New Mexico sounds cool now
Congrats, Justice Robert Evans! I trust you more than anyone on the supreme court!
Am I the only one who would pay actual money to see Marcus as Robert just have a cup of coffee?
Why is Robert not in his bathrobe? Is he okay?
He's a judge, he's got to class things up at least a little bit.
For those of you coming from the podcast version, the Photoshop of Biggie and Tupac is at 50:38
Greazy is a top tier guest. Get him back soon!
_Please_ do not "do a Blood Meridian," Judge Evans. Some of us have read that book, and...ugh, _no._
But if he does he'll get his own BTB episode.
@@thegodplace7887we'll have come full circle, babeeey!
It's rare to find a commenter so fluent in Redditese sincerity
Hey Robert Jodeci was an R&B quartet, Kci & Jojo is an R&B duo.
my favorite podcast to listen to at 1.5x speed
I gotta say, Wil is a wonderful guest. Loves the energy he brings
KNOWLEDGE FIGHT LOVES YOU!!❤❤❤❤❤
NPR? Not so much.
Someone once described Suge Knight with "a lot of guys rap about being criminals before they got into music, Suge was just a criminal period."
I guess when Sophie said she thought they could get 3 episodes, she meant they'd bullshit their way through at least one of them
Is there a bid for a Supreme Court position in Robert's future? :3
I was the 19th like. Not early enough for Diddy
There’s video????
hey robert keep in mind that any drug that is ingested in liquid form is faster acting. you said GHB but it could be anything
You didn't know, but it's true... Faith Hill was in the car with Tupac when he was shot; it inspired the first draft of Breathe.
She had to do some revisions.
Hey, Robert. As an official New Mexico judge, would you mind swearing me in? Let me know if/when you can plz
All rise
30:00 THAT'S how you tell the tale of Wolf & Big Jake? 😂
Just think: if Tupac had stayed with Digital Underground he might still be alive.
“We gonna do a behind the bastards on suge knight?”
“Bro I ain’t sayin nuttin”
So you're saying theres a chance we could have Supreme Court Justice Robert Evans someday
Last Podcast on the Left mentioned
03:07 - _"Does that-- 'im, is that make-- am I-- I guess I'm-- like, is there a-- there's not a, a-- like _*_can I be the middle of the defense?"_*
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This is a great episode. Also, i am insanely attracted to Greazy Will
As a suburban white kid in the 90s, a significant percentage of the kids i knew thought they were gangsters. The most privileged white kids imaginable walking around with do rags and chains.
Subbed
I would give him cases. I just need to be in New Mexico and disagree with someone! :p
Faith Evans - R&B singer
Faith Hill - country singer
The ones with friends are the least informative LOL cause of all the friendly chit chat and stories
13th the non-existent floor
What's composed a walkout, my greatest rappers?!
Holy shit Robert's wearing clothes.
I think if you commit Blood Meridian, your fan is going to get disbarred.
Anarchists can be judges?
Guys I have all tupac biggie info ask me. I can help behind scenes with series of episodes. Documentents ect.
vinny why is zelda blue
Greazy Wil gettin' a little too greazy 🥃
am i just super unobservant?
i never noticed the tattoo on roberts hand - tho to be fair they havent been doing video episodes very long.
what is that?
It is the symbol from the flag of the Kronstadt sailor rebels during the Russian Civil War, who attempted to initiate a next (even more left wing) uprising against the Bolsheviks
Bernie Sanders killed Tupac? No! Colonel Sanders!
However you pronounce it is now legally correct. Thats how judging works, right?
The guest interrupted so much. I loved his inside info and takes but I found myself getting annoyed with his constant interruptions. Otherwise loved all of it!
B2B mirroring Charli XCX? okay we see you.
cold open (the worst part of their contract) ends always around the 4min mark
Who shot ya? FTP. Is the best
Best thing I can say for the man is: Bisexual Icon. Much like his victims I did not see that coming from P. Diddy.
Bisexual, but not an icon surely
@@the_newt_nestspeaking as a bisexual: i ain’t claiming him as an icon. He wants to think that while he’s in jail, cool. He’s not an icon for me, and i think i can confidently say that for the rest of us.
@@thejason755 @the_new_nest infamously iconic.
Finally I know what it is like to be french hearing Robert butchering Jodeci. Like R&B was such a large part of my childhood that it seems alien that someone couldn't pronounce their name right. Goddamn lmao
Frankly, Tupac & Biggie suck... Sir Mix-A-Lot is the real one! PUT EM ON THE GLASS!!!!
this is a great podcast except for the drunk guy interrupting Robert
i mean, i will find it myself, but the names should be in the description. First time viewer, dont know "will". Its not Will Smith i guess, he has 4 Grammys.
Starts at 4:11
i love this podcast but the guest keeps interrupting for long time,i got bored