Michigan's Future Under Sherrone Moore - Josh Pate Cut
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Michigan under Sherrone Moore has gone from highest of highs to lowest of lows in the span of one calendar year. Now we're looking ahead to 2025 and beyond. On Josh Pate's College Football Show Ep 604 Josh Pate broke down the future of the Michigan Football program. Will the Wolverines ascend back to the mountaintop under Sherrone Moore? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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8 wins without the forward pass is impressive
No joke, we easily could have won the national championship 100 years ago.
@@avery9053😂😂😂
Ironically, before the forward pass was invented was when they won most of their championships. 😂
Ya like for real .so bad at the qb room .hope them days are gone now with nil
A buckeye fan here and toward the end of the season after they housed Northwestern Michigan turned into a team no one wanted to play..beating us and Bama they showed that
@@rshelley7496 Mark Rogers has company in ‘The world’s most sensible Bucknuts’ category
Respect..
Is this a... rational and respectful buckeye fan..? We should put you in a museum or something
Now that Knowles is leaving Ohio and going to Penn St, Ohio State's future could be tough.
W buckeye fan
That defense was underrated. All they needed is a QB.
And receivers tbh, they weren’t getting much separation beyond Colston Loveland, who’s stats were insanely beyond the next best guy and he’s blocking half the time
@@Mmmmmk247 we have good receivers they just never got a shot to show it because the QB play was terrible
@@Mmmmmk247 there were lots of wide open guys that none of our QBs were seeing or had the confidence to throw to. I remember one drive in particular near the goal line where Loveland was wide open for about 2 seconds (or long enough to make the quick throw for a 5 yard gain) and the QB (may have been Tuttle) tucked it and ran for nothing.
Our WRs could have used some improvement but I fully believe they would have showcased themselves much better if we had a QB this season. The losses to Indiana and Illinois could entirely be summed up by QB play.
The win against Alabama was bigger than I think most people realize. That wasn't some crappy depleted Bama team. That was a team that was, at one time, ranked #1 in the country. That is a good ass Bama team. Beating the Bucs and then Bama back to back was completely unexpected. I never saw that coming. I expected to get trounced by Ohio State this year. When that game was tied at the half all I could think was "ok, well the Buckeyes are gonna come out blazing in the second half and hang 40 on us". And they never scored a single point. I still cannot process that win lol
Never thought 8 wins could feel so good
@SS the irrelevant program that lives rent free in Buckeye heads? Yeah keep telling yourself that, Lil bro.
Irrelevant for 20 years until conner came along.
@SatansShartno one cares you won the natty, that was expected, you didn’t beat a down Michigan team 😂
@SS I can tell that Michigan is still relevant by the fact that you're so triggered, Lil bro.
@electrical and even more relevant after he left, Lil bro.
I would say the goals for next season are. 1. beat all rivals 2. make it to the final 4
I would agree with this statement. As long as Michigan wins 11 games and beats Ohio State and makes the semifinals, I would call the season a success.
Michigan is stacked next year, and a favorable schedule …the offense has a long way to go but if they click, will be fun to watch …defense might take a little step back also, but they have key players at every position still and Zvada is a stud kicking
Defense isn't taking any step back, so long as they keep Martindale, they're also returning Rod Moore to the secondary.
@@anonymousNinesupposedly he's taking the saints job
@SatansShart lots of "ifs" and "ands" I'm hopeful but I'm holding my breath. Tons of 5-star qbs are mediocre in college
@@Zanthorr true
You cheated
Let’s not forget that three of the losses were against eventual playoff teams
@SS when we win a Natty we go undefeated, Lil bro.
@SatansShart2019 was a minute ago now, huh. Tough go at it, certainly.
At least you won a natty this year, though. Takes away some of the sting, I’m sure. Cheers to L #5 coming in November, friendo🍻
@SatansShart 😆 and you like your own comments too! Classic!
@SatansSharttime to let it go bro
@ And we win our conference instead of getting a wildcard birth
Crazy thing is if JJ and Trente Jones decided to stick around one more year Michigan Might have won another title.
let’s not go crazy
The only team in history to best a Alabama team TWICE in the same calendar year.
Michigan!!!!
@SatansShart its a nice Rose Bowl trophy, no big deal I guess 🤣
It took awhile, but they did it!! Go Blue!!!!!!
People forget how close they were to beating Indiana, in Bloomington
😂 best 8-5 season ever. And ohio fans HATE that it doesn't bother us all that much.
Those 2 "meaningless" games are only meaningless to the losers. Both those teams fans were talking huuuuuge trash before those games. Then suddenly "it doesn't even matter" (I typed that in Chris D'Elia's sassy drunk girl voice) 😂
@SS LOL whatever helps you sleep at night, Lil brother.
@SatansShartwhen does your felony flag planting become law? Glad you don’t care that much 😂 OSU national champions that couldn’t even beat TTUN at home, again…
@SatansShart 😆 imagine thinking you're hot shit when your soft ass team can't beat an "irrelevant" team with no QB. And got lucky they decided this was the year they went to 12 teams or they never woulda made it in.
You exemplify that sassy drunk girl so well! 😆
@ most toxic fanbase ever lol. 1883 days since OSU beat Michigan in case you forgot
@SatansShart ok lil fella. Just remember your "super tough" team STILL couldnt beat that "SOFT AF" team. And i know you will cuz you can't stay off Michigan channels.
😆 clown
Whats cute is every year ND is "the most overrated school in the rankings". Til you 🐈 beat em. Then they're absolutely legit. 😆 keep tryin cupcake.
Only one team paid $20 million plus for their roster n couldn't beat a "SOFT AF" 6-5 Michigan team with no QB and only 65 yds passing too. What's your point again? Oh yeah, you're super super tough and you can't get an "irrelevant" team outta your head.
Beating ohio st and Alabama was HUGE. Gave bryce underwood a good reason to want to sign (other than the money of course)
He signed before that gang
@wyattjorgensen9309 yeah I'm saying it made him feel better about his decision but worded it wrong
Ya ,they could of had zero wins. He was taking that 10 million either eay
10 million reasons
From an Ohio State fan it's good to see that tea❌️ up north actually beco❌️ing good again college football is better when TOSU and that tea❌️ up north is good!
Good enough to beat Ohio State this year lol
@SS so irrelevant that you have to cry about it all over this comment section like a triggered incel, huh Lil bro?
@SS that's just what I heard. I'm sorry I triggered you, Lil bro.
@SS it's weird that you're not denying your incelism,. It's okay. That's your journey. I support you, Lil bro.
@SS whatever you say, Lil bro.
With just an average QB, they would've won 10 games and gone to the playoffs.
@SatansShart ok buddy. Even without a qb. They still beat ohio in columbus. What's your excuse this year since u can't use "cheating?"
@SatansShart You sure are a bitter one aren't you? OSU wins a natty* and all you can do is talk about Michigan? Tell us more about how it doesn't bother you LOL
@SatansShartit’s hard to believe a division 1 coaching staff was too incompetent to deal with “sign stealing”. Everyone already knew about Connor stalions going into the 2024 season..
@SatansShart wait, are you trying to claim Michigan didn’t win 2023 fair and square? LOL
@SatansShart Only place I've seen asterisks is from butthurt OSU fans on youtube comment sections.
Ohio state fans calling the rivalry meaningless now cause they cant win is icing on the cake
Not this Oho State Fan. Any OSU fan that says that is a loser.
@ Well, speaking for me, the Michigan game, that takes place at the end of November, it is its own thing entirely - The Game. Not linked at all to any other part of the season or schedule. Understandably, it's an insane view that I have, but I dig it. Losing The Game this year did not take away from the Natty for me, they are separate goals.
@SatansShart - I totally see your point, but there is The Game and then there is everything else. Each scenario has its own importance. I guess we will all have to come to grips with these scenarios in our own ways. If we lost The Game and then beat Michigan in the CFP, I would still view The Game having it's own level of importance from a tradition standpoint.
@ - Couldn't agree with you more. National Championship trumps all other accomplishments.
lol no OSU fan was saying that. 4 years is nothing compared to what you guys went through before that. Legit saw UM fans saying they couldn’t be fans anymore for the team. Could never be me.
Finishing 8-5 with a QB throwing for just under 1200 yards and the best WR having 582 yards is stunning in this era of college football. There are QB's that throw for 1200 yards in 3/4 games. Granted this will never be Michigan's style of offense BUT there is a difference between not being able to throw and deciding not to throw.
2025 will be very interesting with the addition to Bryce Underwood and Keene to the offense. I think they will continue to be run focused with Justice Haynes and Marshall but who will be the QB? My gut says Moore will go with experience first and let Keene start early and mix in Bryce.
If Michigan can win on the road in Norman and a few weeks later in Lincoln they'll be rolling. I think there will be some growing pains at the QB/WR positions that will result in a few tough losses. I think the defense will be steady once again and the balancing point will be will the offense improve? If they have any kind of passing attack the 2025 team could be as good as 10-2 but could easily end up 8-4 as well. Coach Moore has a tough task on his hands trying to keep Bryce Underwood happy too so he does not transfer at the end of the year..........going to be interesting.
The future is bright for Coach Moore and his men. It’s Great to be a Michigan Wolverine.
Yep the future is NCAA sanctions.
You cheated.
Kind of fuuny the buckeyes always say michigan's national championship should have an asterisk attached now the buckeyes national championship has an asterisk because they didn't beat michigan
@SatansShart I still can't believe michigan beat ohio st this year - a 3 touchdown underdog on the road
@SatansShart with one big asterisk * lost to michigan
@SatansShart michigan doesn't have the asterisk ohio st does
Cheaters
@jimmy5634 basically Jay walking
Had i known better by just listening to this channel, i would have thought this was a Michigan channel, lol.. Thank you for your honest opinion..
I love your show..keep up good work !!!!!!!
We got two good rbs in Haynes and Marshall and Bryce can run really good as well but he also has a cannon and great accuracy, along with our elite defense and our favorable schedule we’re getting back into the playoffs and getting our natty bac
Honestly I predicted a season like this. The way they finished was incredible. Especially with 3 different QBs and the primary QB a 5th year preferred walk on. I’d say 2024 was a productive season on the field that will help springboard the program into the CFP picture in 2025. From an off field perspective, it couldn’t of been much better.
Moore and Dan Lanning are 38 years old. Ryan Day is 45. If all three choose to stay where they are those three programs will be national championship contenders every year.
@SatansShart National Championship as an OC. Won at Penn State, Maryland and beat Ohio St as an interim coach. Beat Ohio St in Columbus then Alabama on a neutral field with most of his starters opting out or injured. How is he 2-0 against Day but doesn't deserve respect as an equal??
@SS He beat Day twice, Lil bro
@@paulday5722Hasn't won a legitimate title...wait and see what the NCAA does.
@SS Moore beat Day twice. Moore outcoached Day twice. I think you need your nap, Lil bro.
@ That's weird... your user name means a bunch of obnoxious noise that's full of shit. Totally appropriate for the nonsense you post.
Josh, not even "Knute Rockne". Come on Man. LOL 😂👍✌
The difference in the Michigan Michigan state game was that Moore and Michigan wanted it and Smith and Michigan state didn't even understand it.
Fun fact for those of you that don’t know. Niles, Michigan, where this guy is from is about five minutes north of South Bend, Indiana. What are you doing not being a Notre Dame fan bro? Go Irish! Lol.
At Michigan its all about the team Go Blue !
As a buckeye fan if underwood is as good as they say he’s gonna be and the defense stays dominant, Michigan should make the playoffs next year for sure
@@davidrl9137 that is if we don’t get a ban
If Harbaugh didn't leave he could have gotten a QB good enough to beat ILL, IU, and UW. By the time he left the 1st transfer portal was closed. Moore finished the season great and I did criticize fairly, earlier in the season.
Big 👶🍼
@SS still got a Natty without him, Lil bro.
@SatansShart He managed to find a replacement for Stalions pretty quick in 2023 before going undefeated in the second half of the season and playoffs.
@SatansShart😂😂
@SatansShartWho replaced him against OSU in 2023?
Hot Take- Michigan will go 12-0 and make the B1G championship game. Also Bryce Underwood will be top 5 in heisman.🙏🏿〽️
I think 11-1 but beat osu again
i agree with this but underwood will not be top 5. maybe top 10 and id be more than happy with that type of performance
😂😂 I heard that last year too. 😂😂
Hot take: Underwood won't start but will red shirt. D lost 4 first rounders, finishes 9th in the BIG. Final record 6-6.
@@5STARGAV Michigan will go 9-3 at best they don’t recruit at the same level Ohio State you’re putting all your faith on a 5 star freshman quarterback. Ohio States got like 3 of those😂
Michigan defense was so dominant against Alabama that people don't even think that Jalen Milroe is NFL caliber anymore.
Against Ohio State too!
Carrying over momentum is not fake, you can’t say you don’t think FSU would’ve had a better season if they hadn’t been waxed by Georgia to end the season
no all their good players left. 😂even if the good players stayed for the game they couldn’t come back this year so same result
Only one loss to an I ranked team. Most were in the top ten (Oregon, Indiana, Texas, and Illinois)
As a Buckeyes fan, Michigan was carried by the defense and Wink Martindale this season and it showed in the games against OSU and Alabama. The issue once again will be the QB, are they going to hand the reins to Jadyn Davis or will they seriously start Bryce Underwood as a freshman? Now do I think Michigan is going to go win the National Championship next year? No, not in Moore's second year. Do I think they will improve to 10 wins and potentially could go to the Big Ten championship? Yeah, I could see that, depending on how good they are.
They still rebuilding in my opinion lost 3 to 4 best players on D and best offensive weapon. Freshman QB or whomever starts and replacing those elite first rounders on D be rough.
That's my feeling too. It's worth noting this is still a Jim Harbaugh team and most of the players played more for Harbaugh then Moore. So it likely won't be until the 2026 season (if they improve) that you can talk about Michigan maybe contending for a natty again.
If you asked this question on November 10th, the answer would have been unsure . . . Now it seems to be like things are looking up.
Best 5-loss season ever, lmao.
Go Blue!
Michigan isn’t there yet, but has proven a top tier defense. Still isn’t there on offense, not just a bit more on O-line but also WR, and we still need a system that works. Hoping Chip Lindsey can figure it out. If MI could have averaged more points per game last season then WAS and ILL would have been Ws.
If Harbaugh would've stayed then JJ would've too. I believe Moore did great in year 1 without them
The Michigan Wolverines are 2024 de facto National Champions.
That 8-5 was better than 13-0 for sure......lol😂
I’m from Michigan and never heard of Niles 😂
Really-right across the state line from South Bend.
From Metro Detroit and heard of it. Probably because a basketball coach of ours was from there.
My band played a show there once in some dudes garage out in the middle of the woods. The whole town is like 80% Notre Dame fans
@ makes sense
Whuuuuut???? 🤔
I’m not asking for a Maxwell/Heisman winner just give me someone that can complete a screen pass with relative consistency.
Josh pate a Michigan hater. He confirmed what I knew all along by confirming his bias towards Ohio State. Dude is like 2-6 when picking against Michigan in big games, and one of the two he picked right was the Washington natty game, and anyone who really knows ball knew Michigan was going to win that game.
The next 3 years, they’ll be great. OSU may not beat them this entire decade. And I hate Michigan.
JH goes 10-2 and makes playoffs.
A QB that could throw more than 10 yards down the field and Michigan would have been 10-2 this year under Sherrone Moore.
Looks bleaker today than it did this time last week, that’s for sure. NOA is very heavy & Mich responds w/adjectives, not facts. Ominous.
As a lifelong fan I don’t care if we only win one game….ohio state…
I agree with Josh’s final point.. I am high🤣
Knowles leaving Ohio State is great, but I hope they keep Crying Ryan.
2nd and 3rd sting beat Alabama starters lol
The future for Michigan is nothing. 1 and done. Then you consider the HC. So there ya go.
OSU fan here. They’re going to face some well deserved penalties for cheating at recruiting and cheating by stealing signs in person. They sent a scout to film their opponents’ sidelines during games. Screw those cheaters! Their coach missed 65% of their games for cheating in 2024 for blatant cheating
hammer dropped november 30th in the toilet bowl
One of my favorite things about the whole "cheating" scandal is how easy it's become to identify people who know nothing about football and sign stealing. Yall are just out here advertising it 🤣
For such a scrub team, they finished the year really strong
Buckeyes fan here, we're coming for that team up north!
😂😂 pleeease come and get #5😂😂
@johnnywebb2351 🖕 Your lucky that we had to let go of Jim Tressel and urban. I give you credit, you have done us in with Ryan Day. Trust me, after the loss this year, I wanted him fired. Now that we won the chip, he has this upcoming year to win. Now if he loses (god forbid), he should be gone but he won't. He's a good coach but the real Buckeyes know the number 1 job....beat that team up north!!! You're quarterback (Bryce Underwood) scares me but we have Jeremiah Smith..... So we win
Jesus loves you have a great day
Amen 🙏🏾
In the mist 💀💀🌫️
Their future will depend on what the committee on infractions has to say
They got away with the single greatest cheating scandal in the history of CFB. It’s been over a year, the committee isn’t doing shit.
Yeah, I'm sure a Level 2 scouting infraction will change the future of college football. The Big Ten gave Harbaugh a three game suspension and said it was permanently done with the issue. That should show people how minor it was.
@paulday5722 Wow, you have no clue what all they did. Be sure and read the NOA when it becomes public.
@@electrical.banana It's all minor stuff with minor penalties. The NCAA had a hard-on for Harbaugh and tried to smear him every chance they had. Suspending him 20 hours before the Penn St game and releasing the first NOA exactly on National Signing Day were no coincidences. Acting like buying a kid a cheeseburger is a massive scandal shows how petty they were.
@@electrical.bananait is public multiple level 1 infractions across the program and into the school admin...
They're gonna lose scholarships and are probably looking at vacated wins and show cause for Moore specifically....NCAA gonna whoop that ass...
beat them @ Ohio. Underwood was before Northwestern. Alabama means something but not close to as last year/January. Moore needs a national in the next 3 years (to keep this kind of cash coming in) but he gets a rebuilding pass in 2025. Harbaugh is the biggest hero in Michigan history but Moore was not left on 3rd base. Maybe on 1st? 1 thing for sure is he couldn't get to 2nd base until he pulled Underwood out of his hat.
Moore was left with an 0-2 count and a broken bat
7-5 season, step it up or get fired
If he doesn't get doubt digit wins this year sherrone will be on the hot seat, that said they definitely should be able to get 10+ wins and be in playoff contention
I have no idea what you guys are smoking that Michigan team going 7-5 was honestly a miracle given the offense was allergic to the forward pass and they just lost pretty much all of their best talent on defense now with Mason Graham Kenneth Grant and Will Johnson in the NFL next season if they go 9-3 with substantial improvement to the offense Sherrone Moore is absolutely keeping his job
@@jacobehrhart7288 I'm not saying he's gonna be fired I'm saying if 2025 doesn't have 10 wins at least then he'll be on the hot seat in 2026 and if 2026 is a let down we'll likely have a new coach for 2027
@mikeworkman1759 i fail to understand what you mean by hot seat they have the 13th best odds to win the title, meaning outside the playoffs most likely a 9-3 season and with Oklahoma who is looking to also rebuild there offense Nebraska Wisconsin USC and i could also say Washington on their schedule all of which should be improved teams next season i fail to understand why not getting to 10 wins is such a huge issue to think of looking elsewhere if the next season fails to me if he gets to 9-3 with a much better offense i wouldn't question keeping him just because he isn't improving fast doesn't mean it's not improving
@@jacobehrhart7288
No excuses, this is Michigan wolverines were talking about, they are a program that needs to be in the playoffs, failure will not be tolerated.
If this guy thinks he can roll out 7-5 year after year he can think again
What will we all be saying when the sanctions come? Do we have to hear about them when they are in the middle of a post season ban?
Lol stop acting like you know what's going to happen.
@ZeusAchilles-j1i lol. I know!
@james lol is that what the bucknut conspiracy theorists tell you?
@@ZeusAchilles-j1i yes
@janes lol fair enough
Wonder what was in those deleted text messages
They were recovered by the NCAA and there was nothing bad in them.
@HyzersGR ah gotcha. I usually delete texts that don't have anything bad in them too.
jack o-and-four-yer crying with beard dye himself
and osu tampering to high heaven
Nuclear codes
Depends on what the NCAA has planned 😊
Fines. Yeah we're good
Keep dreaming... there's no hammer dropping that isn't made of foam.
hammer dropped november 30th
Cheaters
Play midsty for me
They’re gonna be just like 2024 Missouri a bunch of hype for beating a beat up confused team that everyone thinks was the same team from the regular season in a bowl game then wining a few games into the season then blowing one that no one expected then losing to their rivals and crashing and burning
Not a good comparison 😂
Sounds like Ohio State in 21, 22, and 23
@@cbryant4257 you won’t be laughing when it happens😂
When do they get hammered for cheating?
Lol ain't gonna be a hammer. Maybe a fine. Don't worry. We'll be in the playoffs next year ;)
@SS and yall said you'd beat Michigan and go undefeated. Looks like you lied, Lil bro.
@SS sorry I triggered you, Lil bro.
@SS why did you delet your reply, Lil bro?
When every other team does.
I'd say the goal is surviving NCAA sanctions.
Fines? Yeah we good.
hammer dropped November 30th in the toilet bowl
That's so cute that you still think anything substantial is coming
Enjoy your NC, 2 loss OSU. You won’t sniff another for decades.