Respectfully suggest you get your facts correct before commenting on certain models. Your comments about the Hillman Super Minx are totally incorrect , you show an earlier Hillman Minx series 2 model which is NOT a Super Minx . All the Minx models from the 50s/60s were reliable cars with good performance . ( I speak as a retired official of the Hillman Owners Club )
Used to sell Vauxhalls in the 60/70s, always looked forward to getting a Super Minx in part exchange and hung on to them as long as I could, built like a tank!
Never heard so much rubbish . Owned several Routes cars which all covered 100 000 miles with hardly any problems . Notably - MK2 Mink , 1961 Singer Gazelle twin carbs , 1938 Sunbeam Rapier .
I agree having bought and run in for my father in law several Hillmans. A vastly underrated car well built strong and roomy. Crappy is not describing the Hillman, a great car until Chrysler took over the 180 never quite made it
@@PeterCroslandinterestingly the video fails to slate some of the gas guzzling clumsy not so well made American cars, we had Austin's and Vauxhalls which for the time and their price were good compared to the rest of the world's cars. I agree with you about the Hillmans made by Roots, they were well built reliable and lasted for years,
Not quite. My dad grabbed a £48 Hillman 1800 (Minx) s/h bargain in 1970. He loved his previous Hillman Minx series 3c; £18 from a local guy, who couldn't get it started. Dad, knew he could, and talked him down from £25!!!! We weren't wealthy, but we knew how to get a motor going, ha!
You don’t half talk a load of crap. The Austin was one of the most reliable cars in the U.K. As for the Hillman SuperMinx topic you mix the content with the Minx which are two different vehicles, both popular in the U.K. and also very reliable. I would consider sticking to your own yank tanks and leave the European reviews to people who know what they are talking about.
Hij slaat heel veel onzin uit, b.v. de Simca Aronde was een heel erg betrouwbare auto én veel verkocht. Evenals de Borgward. De commentator baselt maar wat, maak de volgende keer een serie over pindakaas of zoiets!
Total nonsense. All these cars fulfilled the varios needs of their time and did it very well. Most were highly praised at the time and won big circles of enthusiastic owners.
He is an American commenting on British cars built siixty years ago, he should go away and learn what he is talking about, these cars where built for the conditions at that time, having said that they did rust away quite quickly and not just British ones all cars were like that.
This man has to have been brought up on a series of massive American V8 engined cars that could do the quarter mile in a matter of seconds but has never driven any of the cars he has featured! He is so dismissive of all these vehicles and the fact that the whole of Europe were recovering from the war that killed the majority of manufacturing all across the continent twice! (something that the USA has never suffered!).
Poor people never buy new cars. We buy ten-year-old cars of every type. As a friend said to me in the 1970s, "You'll find more Jags on council estates than in rich areas". I looked and it was true.
WHY was the Fiat 1100 bad, in your opinion? And how on earth did being made in a dozen countries mean it WASN'T good. Surely it must have been EXCEPTIONALLY popular, to be made in a recird number of countries!
This guy talks a load of rubbish. Many of these cars including Austin, Hillman and Vauxhall were among the most reliable cars of the period. By the way the Borgward Isabella was NOT a poor persons car. You are talking a load of crap and know nothing about cars especially British ones..
Oh man, I don't know where to begin! This video is absolutely nonsense. It's such a tragedy that we now have to be confronted with these ridiculous AI compositions! ! EVERYTHING here is a messed up drivel!
My uncle had an FA Victor and yes they did rust, badly. The FB Victor, also shown here, addressed the problems to a degree. I owned an FB Victor, it didn't let me down. I also owned a Hillman Minx, which was reliable. I stopped watching this crap at 4:33 as there's some paint I want to watch dry.
Knew a couple of people that had Renault 4CVs. The drivetrain was designed by Ferdinand Porsche as a prisoner after WW2. Same design drivetrain was used up to the Renault Dauphine.
You really have a go at Vauxhalls Victor. They were Pretty much on par with other cars made in a similar price range.Rust protection was minimal in most cars.Father had a Victor,and a 1965 VX4/90.
I nominate this as one of the CRAPPIEST VIDEOS of the 2000's on You Tube. (1) Filming the inside of the car but talking about the engine. (2) Filming the Dashboard or Wheels while talking about Rust. (3) Going from one car to another, sometimes different models. (4) Anybody else ever heard of "Ren No" cars? (5) Too many more things to list. Am I the only one thinking this? Surely not.
I had a Reliant back in the day, all my mates laughed but when it was raining nobody turned down a ride. It was great on fuel, the body didn't rust and as it had a van rear door we could load it up. Don't get me wrong, it was horrible but had some great virtues too.
The primary appeal of the Reliant 3 wheeler's was it could be driven on a motorbike license so all those who used to ride to work now had a vehicle that they did not have to wear full leathers and a helmet! I have never seen this BMW 700 on the roads of the UK in all my 77 years!All film is of left hand drive cars! This man is talking total bollocks and has not done any proper research! French & German cars were very seldom imported into the UK prior to the 1970's when the UK joined the EEC(EU). as tariffs were extremely high on them, making them more expensive than similar sized British cars! Again all film is of left hand drive models so not on the UK roads!
Engish never use salt on the roads. It was just lousy rustproofing , if any at all ,that destroyed these very stylish cute cars, compared to todays bland lookalike overpowered suvs.
Trust an American to get it wrong about British cars (and generally most things in life) . The Hillman was in fact a Minx IIIc a very comfortable reliable car. Another tale of rewriting history by a nation which no no better
Fords Consuls & Corsairs got there styling "quirks" from US Ford Thunderbirds, Mercury & Lincolns models - They even admit it, as they were competing against Vauxhall ( GM) that was using style tips from Olds, Pontiac, Buick on the Cresta's & Chev's for the Victors. The F series & the reckord (Opel GM) looks like shrunk 55/56 Chev Be Air. Common theme with all these vids - unless its 20 ft long, got a V8, more chrome than a drug pimp. It's under powered, underwhelming, basic, lack luster, lacking modern options, pffft ironically these "crap cars" sold more globally, gave more mobility to people than what ever this AI bot considers "acceptable"
I learned to drive in a Reault 4CV in 1958 , andl with a full load of my pals travelled on many 200 mile trips on main roads with no troubles , handling or otherwise . It was far advanced than British small cars with side valve engines and cart suspensions . The 4 CV had independent coil spring suspension , wet liner engines with overhead valves . And l seem to recall took part in the likes of the Monte Carlo Rally , with some success .
Renault 4CV was a forerunner to the Dauphine/Gordini, R8/Gordini & R10/Alconi! These cars won many rally’s and endurance races. Nothing to be “sniffed” at! Great French engineering!
I do not agree what you are telling about BMW 700. I own one of model year 1960 / 30 horsepower. This car has run already 300.000 km with the first engine. Its liability in daily use (of course in good wheather conditions ) still pleases me a lot. Travelling with constantly 120 km/h top speed for about 700 km distance on one day is not a problem , exhausting, anyhow heavy or considered as underpowered even nowadays. For such a small and affordable car it has everything it needs. If you need comfort at all sides what will you tell about 1960 s Porsche? A worse car? You must consider what it was built for. Petrol consumption of just 6.5 Liters at full speed is also remarkable for the BMW 700. Even with todays standards acceptable. Overland with constant 90 km/h even 5 liters consumption is possible - with my 64! year old car. The only bad things are the miss of seat belts and being a little bit noisy by motorsound from the back. In my opinion this are the only "negative" aspects you can consider. The handling of BMW 700 is quite amazing, -comparable with a go cart. No back spinning at all. You can pass curves faster than with the most of todays cars. It is just like s chewing gum on the street. Not for nothing this car saved BMW by selling over180.000 units and bringing back profit to save the company. BMW 700 is a wonderful tiny car and much better than the competitor cars of that time, f.e. VW beetle, 24 horsepower/ fuel consumption 11 liters., V-max 105 km/h. Drive one BMW 700 first, please, before you are telling such unbelievable tales about a worse car of the 60s. This not fair!
Yes and now worth thousands. Cars from the 60s I had a 1968 hillman hunter royal automatic Very reliable car. Had two morris mini's had no problems I rarder had a car that was made back then to the cars built now 😳
What a lot of utter nonsense, I knew some of those cars well, and a few of them were the extreme opposite of what's described, and they were certainly as good in every aspect as competing cars of the time and the price. Videos like these cause me to question the truth of everything else in these type of documentaries
Yup... starts the piece with a selection of mid-price, rock solid models... (many of which are still going today BTW). And further insults them by mis-identifiying them.
Regarding the Austin A70, the first shown was an A70 Hereford, the second an A40 Somerset, and finally a Hampshire, then back to an estate Hereford (with the bonnet air vents). They are all different, especially the Somerset. Oh Dear!
The criticism is taken out of context. Europe was just starting to recover from a devastating war and then engine power was not the top priority, but a cheap car reasonably comfortable that works for a family of four. The roads were narrow and speed limits everywhere with the exception of the German Autobahn.
"Poor people" in the UK in the 60's, couldn't afford any car. I know, I lived there until 1966. Most people in my neighbourhood took the bus, rode a bicycle, or a moped.
Consul classic you talk a shed load of crap . I had one for yrs and was regarded at the time yrs ahead of its time. 1500 cc 4 speed box never a days trouble and run on the roughest of 2 star petrol at the time. Shed load of speed under your right foot. Comfortable on long runs . One draw back was and the only gripe was the side lights at the front . They were house in a box on the inside of the wing. This used to fill with rubbish and unless it was cleaned regularly the light would rust out. It was my first car and yrs of enjoyment. When you talk about cars get you facts right instead of talking a landfill of crap.
I owned a Consul Classic and while the styling wasn't to everyone's taste, it was no more or less reliable than most of it's competitors. The only real weakness of the Classic was the column gear change fitted to some models. The Consul Classic was killed off by the Cortina which became Fords best selling car of the era and the two cars shared the majority of their components.
Rubbish title and content. Back then us poor people never bought new anyway. Could just barely afford them second hand. Many of these Hillmans, Vauxhalls and English Fords were all we could get here in NZ (and were happy to have them) as you could not buy new unless you were rich and had money in the bank in the country of origin. NZ government rules dictated this. My point is though was that they were perfectly good in there day.
I think it's quite positive that car manufactorers produced cars that poor people could afford. The post war period in European countries had more important things to focus on than making fancy cars. An American wouldn't understand that, coming from a country that became rich because of WW2. Many European countries had to be rebuilt from scratch.
Some of these (Ford Classic, Hillman Minx, Austin A70, Vauxhall Victor to name but four) were certainly not at the "budget" end of the UK market - we poor people were driving Anglias, Imps, A35s and the like and would have considered ourselves to be doing rather well to own some the cars you're denigrating.
True. My father had a Super Minx and we regarded it as somewhat posh, especially compared with cheap horrible things like the Ford Popular, Fiat 500, Morris Minor and Austin A35.
Never let an American review European vehicles. Yes the Victor was a rust bucket but so were many cars of the period. As long as it was washed and polished regularly they managed to last quite well.
I am sure who ever posted this , did to stir the possum. Some great cars of the era . Especially for those of us old enough to have who have owned one.
Many of the rust problems would have been overcome by spraying oil on the underside. Many cars left the factory with no under body protection at all and aftermarket application was left to the owner
0:44 - 1:24 Green Vauxhall Victor that is a sharp looking little car ❤ 2:13 Yellow " " super ❤ 5:39 - 🥰😍🤩🙏 love it a little British Hot Rod. Many years ago I had a 1962 ford Anglia (Canada) 1foot narrower 1 1/2 foot shorter love the Z piller with angled in back window
Poor people could not afford cars at all during the 1960s. Take a look at any old street photo from the 1960s compared to today and you'll see how people owned a car back then.
You keep hammering on about plain and utilitarian looking at things from a modern US viewpoint. That was what the market wanted, simple, reliable, economical and easy to fix. Something that was economical and reliable. Almost no one was interested in turning heads. Many of these cars were designed for people who had just experienced rationing. You were more likely to see a bomb site than a motorway. They didn't 'yearn for a more enjoyable driving experience', they just wanted to get to work and take the family out at the weekends. Also, some of these smaller models were a response to the Suez crisis, when petrol prices rocketed. To be fair, all Vauxhall from the late 1950s 1960s were rust buckets. The Opels weren't quite as bad for rust. The Opel P1 is the same as a Vauxhall Cresta PA. Same American styling, same vague handling. The owners of both companies (GM) didn't really understand the European market at the time. They got better in the mid to late 1970s. Ford were much quicker to adapt. The Reliant Regal needs a bit of background. After WW2, many people bought motorcycles as a cheap form of transport. The Reliant could be driven on a motorcycle licence. It wasn't designed for motorways, as there weren't many motorways when it was launched, there was only about 1,00 miles of motorway by 1969. My dad had a regal supervan in the early 1970's. It was fine provided you were not stupid in it. He had it for 5 tears and never even came close to overturning it. The BMW 700 was reliable, economical and fun to drive. What more could you ask from a car. The Renault 4CV was a response to the way vehicles were taxed. Tax was based on horsepower. There is more room in a 4CV than in a VW 1300. The Zundapp confused no one. It was common to have doors at the front. BMW/Isetta, Trojan and Heinkel all made similar cars. The Hillman Super Minx was certainly not budget, the Minx and the Imp were the cheaper models. . It was a reliable car that came with a 1592 cc engine which was adequate for the time. The 1725cc engine was introduced a couple of years later. The same car was sold as the Singer Vogue and the Humber Sceptre, Humber being the premium brand. I'd argue that Hillman's build quality was better than Humber's though. The Fiat 1100 owner would have had a sense of pride about his vehicle. He (it was usually a man back then) was probably the only person in his street who owned a car. He would have probably been polishing it every weekend, before taking his family out for a Sunday drive in the countryside.
The first world War,the global economic great depression that followed and the second world War effected the car automobile industry very badly.Hence the quality of the cars were badly affected.
I must take issue with the section about Reliant three wheeled cars. The clip of the blue Regal skidding and doing donuts was taken from a car channel (whose name I forget) which was intentionally doing just that. I owned two Regals and had no problem with any instability or tipping issues. If you drove around a corner or bend as if you were in a mini cooper then yes, there might well be a problem. They were economical and fun to drive.
The VV 4 banger was not only a notorious pos rust bucket. It was sent to market with that certain foreknowledge. How crusty was that ? Yet the older style model V Cresta 6 was a great car capable of quietly zooming down the road at 80 mph, hour after hour.
Whilst being a Routes fan , I considered the Fords and Vauxhalls to be rot boxes , and never was a BMC fan . I have had several Vauxhalls, which l considered to be a vast improvement From the Mk 1 Cavalier and Astra - more Opel influence .
What a load of ole' bollocks. I was only a nipper when my dad came home with a red Consul Classic. Me n' my brothers thought it was the dog's bollocks. We went across Europe down to Italy in it, me, 2 brothers and Mum n' Dad. One of my best memories. I spent more than 10 yrs trying to find one as a present for my Dad. Sadly he passed away before i managed to find one. But i'd be very happy to have one anyday. Suggest the narrator stick to talking about American shit-boxes.
The best low-budget car and one of most iconic, was that of the VW Beetle. Its production run spanned almost three decades originally prior to them being built in Brazil. While the Beetle is not documented in the video, it has taken on many designs that prove that such a design can be updated. As the video lists the terrible cars designed and built I wish to provide a more positive insight into automotive history.
When cars had great colours, invalid turquoise reliant things were soooooo freaking sexy, I chopped all my limbs off only to find out they stopped making them! Bugger 😟
The Vauxhall Company address the rust problem with the FB, which was better protected from rust. What I understand from a fellow UA-cam channel called Cold War Motors, both American and Canadian built cars rusted quite badly as well. Please get your facts right. As for the BMW, was it a CRAPPY car… It was a car that saved the company from going bust, and from what I understand, an excellent vehicle for it's time! It's a pity that BMW shafted GLAS in the early 1960's and later Rover in the late 1990's by telling lies about the financial well being of GLAS and the fact that Rover nearly made BMW go under. How comes when BMW got hold of Rolls Royce, they dropped Rover like a hot potato. If you are going bust, A. you don't by Rolls Royce and B. you don't build a high tech factory in Sussex. You would go under like Chrysler has so many times over the years.
You dont know what youre talking about. These were fit for purpose in the day , and sold to many hard working people earning a basic salary for hard work.
At least all the British an European cars had a 4 speed box. Ford and Vauxhall kept throwing out 3 speed ones. The Consul/Zephyr/ Zodiac MK2 would have been a far better car with a 4 speed box. Vauxhall Velox and Cresta was too yankified
Respectfully suggest you get your facts correct before commenting on certain models. Your comments about the Hillman Super Minx are totally incorrect , you show an earlier Hillman Minx series 2 model which is NOT a Super Minx . All the Minx models from the 50s/60s were reliable cars with good performance . ( I speak as a retired official of the Hillman Owners Club )
Used to sell Vauxhalls in the 60/70s, always looked forward to getting a Super Minx in part exchange and hung on to them as long as I could, built like a tank!
Never heard so much rubbish . Owned several Routes cars which all covered 100 000 miles with hardly any problems . Notably - MK2 Mink , 1961 Singer Gazelle twin carbs , 1938 Sunbeam Rapier .
Error 1963 - sorry
I agree having bought and run in for my father in law several Hillmans. A vastly underrated car well built strong and roomy. Crappy is not describing the Hillman, a great car until Chrysler took over the 180 never quite made it
@@PeterCroslandinterestingly the video fails to slate some of the gas guzzling clumsy not so well made American cars, we had Austin's and Vauxhalls which for the time and their price were good compared to the rest of the world's cars. I agree with you about the Hillmans made by Roots, they were well built reliable and lasted for years,
If you could afford a car in the 60s, you were far from poor...
...wheras now, if you can afford a *house,* you are far from poor.
Not quite. My dad grabbed a £48 Hillman 1800 (Minx) s/h bargain in 1970. He loved his previous Hillman Minx series 3c; £18 from a local guy, who couldn't get it started. Dad, knew he could, and talked him down from £25!!!! We weren't wealthy, but we knew how to get a motor going, ha!
I learned to drive on a Hillman Minx. So did my brother. That car was bulletproof.
You don’t half talk a load of crap. The Austin was one of the most reliable cars in the U.K.
As for the Hillman SuperMinx topic you mix the content with the Minx which are two different vehicles, both popular in the U.K. and also very reliable.
I would consider sticking to your own yank tanks and leave the European reviews to people who know what they are talking about.
Hij slaat heel veel onzin uit, b.v. de Simca Aronde was een heel erg betrouwbare auto én veel verkocht. Evenals de Borgward. De commentator baselt maar wat, maak de volgende keer een serie over pindakaas of zoiets!
Chevrolet Convair: "here here old chap !!"
So many crappy channels like this now. I think they might be connected.
You know about these cars as much as I know of spaceships.. nothing.
Mr. Shakespeare - may I congratulate you on your choice of words!
Total nonsense. All these cars fulfilled the varios needs of their time and did it very well. Most were highly praised at the time and won big circles of enthusiastic owners.
I agree, Well said.
I don't think this Guy knows anything about the 50ies and 60ies all He knows is just what He read somewhere
He is an American commenting on British cars built siixty years ago, he should go away and learn what he is talking about, these cars where built for the conditions at that time, having said that they did rust away quite quickly and not just British ones all cars were like that.
Someone wrote it but no one is reading. This is an AI video.
They are all hugely interesting and would be fun to own today. Can still smell my A35 interior
Obviously dont like Austins... Which incidentally were good cars!
My father had a series VI Minx . It was a perfectly descent car.!!
This man has to have been brought up on a series of massive American V8 engined cars that could do the quarter mile in a matter of seconds but has never driven any of the cars he has featured! He is so dismissive of all these vehicles and the fact that the whole of Europe were recovering from the war that killed the majority of manufacturing all across the continent twice! (something that the USA has never suffered!).
And repaying War Loans financed the American dream but not for us.
Spot on. Many of the cars he mentiones were popular all over western Europe, satisfying their needs.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE COMPLIMENTARY REVIEW OF THIS PROGRAMME! (WORLD RECORD)
Doesn’t know jack-squat!
When he’s talking about Hillman’s what’s being shown are two different models of minx ,the green one is a super minx .
........so you're slamming poor people now?
Don’t think they’re slamming the people as much as the cars
Everybody is going to be poor now that Starmer is in number 10.
Poor people never buy new cars. We buy ten-year-old cars of every type.
As a friend said to me in the 1970s, "You'll find more Jags on council estates than in rich areas".
I looked and it was true.
Nearly all French cars were underpowered. That is because of the taxation.
That's a good point - the TAXATION
Correct. That's why so few French cars had big engines, and no big-engined supercars.
@FredScuttle456 It is also why Italian cars have a big range of engine sizes. Some French cars did put out decent power from small engines.
with the Citroen SM being the exception that proves the rule.
@@ngauruhoezodiac3143 True. Small-engined Ferraris were made for the Italian-only market which were never offered in the UK.
Your remarks are very insulting,
Not particular Fiat fan, but the Fiat 1100 was so bad that it was made in 12 countries in 4 continents from 1953-2000. How did the Ford Edsel do?
WHY was the Fiat 1100 bad, in your opinion?
And how on earth did being made in a dozen countries mean it WASN'T good.
Surely it must have been EXCEPTIONALLY popular, to be made in a recird number of countries!
...yyeeeeaahh... it helps Sales if you have a radiator grille that *doesn't* look like a prolapsed butthole.
This guy talks a load of rubbish. Many of these cars including Austin, Hillman and Vauxhall were among the most reliable cars of the period. By the way the Borgward Isabella was NOT a poor persons car. You are talking a load of crap and know nothing about cars especially British ones..
Not crappy cars- just a crappy site.
Compare the number of views of this video with the number of Likes.
Says it all.
Oh man, I don't know where to begin! This video is absolutely nonsense. It's such a tragedy that we now have to be confronted with these ridiculous AI compositions! ! EVERYTHING here is a messed up drivel!
My uncle had an FA Victor and yes they did rust, badly. The FB Victor, also shown here, addressed the problems to a degree. I owned an FB Victor, it didn't let me down. I also owned a Hillman Minx, which was reliable. I stopped watching this crap at 4:33 as there's some paint I want to watch dry.
I’ve news for you, poor people didn’t own a car in the 60’s, it’s a contradiction in terms to say poor only poor people could afford a car.
..nope... the only thing poor people could afford in the 60's was the shirt on their back... and.. umm...
their *HOUSE.*
@ poor people rented their houses and walked to work!
Knew a couple of people that had Renault 4CVs. The drivetrain was designed by Ferdinand Porsche as a prisoner after WW2. Same design drivetrain was used up to the Renault Dauphine.
OH! I didn't know that!
That explains why it went faster going Eastwards than Westwards...
You really have a go at Vauxhalls Victor. They were Pretty much on par with other cars made in a similar price range.Rust protection was minimal in most cars.Father had a Victor,and a 1965 VX4/90.
In Germany this was an Opel Rekord.
AI-generated clickbait trash.
Nah: A.I. thinks these are all new upcomming models.. such as the "new" Ford Capri.
I nominate this as one of the CRAPPIEST VIDEOS of the 2000's on You Tube.
(1) Filming the inside of the car but talking about the engine.
(2) Filming the Dashboard or Wheels while talking about Rust.
(3) Going from one car to another, sometimes different models.
(4) Anybody else ever heard of "Ren No" cars?
(5) Too many more things to list.
Am I the only one thinking this? Surely not.
I had a Reliant back in the day, all my mates laughed but when it was raining nobody turned down a ride. It was great on fuel, the body didn't rust and as it had a van rear door we could load it up. Don't get me wrong, it was horrible but had some great virtues too.
Yup: the Plastic Pig had an amazing Superpower that cars today increasingly cannot do:
It got you from A to B ... *CHEAPLY.*
The primary appeal of the Reliant 3 wheeler's was it could be driven on a motorbike license so all those who used to ride to work now had a vehicle that they did not have to wear full leathers and a helmet! I have never seen this BMW 700 on the roads of the UK in all my 77 years!All film is of left hand drive cars! This man is talking total bollocks and has not done any proper research! French & German cars were very seldom imported into the UK prior to the 1970's when the UK joined the EEC(EU). as tariffs were extremely high on them, making them more expensive than similar sized British cars! Again all film is of left hand drive models so not on the UK roads!
There was a weight limit on 3 Wheelers that meant they could be driven on a motorcycle driving licence. About half a ton I think
It’s not a damp climate that rusts cars per se, it’s the salt used to melt snow/ice.
Engish never use salt on the roads. It was just lousy rustproofing , if any at all ,that destroyed these very stylish cute cars, compared to todays bland lookalike overpowered suvs.
Trust an American to get it wrong about British cars (and generally most things in life) . The Hillman was in fact a Minx IIIc a very comfortable reliable car. Another tale of rewriting history by a nation which no no better
Fords Consuls & Corsairs got there styling "quirks" from US Ford Thunderbirds, Mercury & Lincolns models - They even admit it, as they were competing against Vauxhall ( GM) that was using style tips from Olds, Pontiac, Buick on the Cresta's & Chev's for the Victors. The F series & the reckord (Opel GM) looks like shrunk 55/56 Chev Be Air.
Common theme with all these vids - unless its 20 ft long, got a V8, more chrome than a drug pimp. It's under powered, underwhelming, basic, lack luster, lacking modern options, pffft ironically these "crap cars" sold more globally, gave more mobility to people than what ever this AI bot considers "acceptable"
I learned to drive in a Reault 4CV in 1958 , andl with a full load of my pals travelled on many 200 mile trips on main roads with no troubles , handling or otherwise . It was far advanced than British small cars with side valve engines and cart suspensions .
The 4 CV had independent coil spring suspension , wet liner engines with overhead valves . And l seem to recall took part in the likes of the Monte Carlo Rally , with some success .
Renault 4CV was a forerunner to the Dauphine/Gordini, R8/Gordini & R10/Alconi! These cars won many rally’s and endurance races. Nothing to be “sniffed” at! Great French engineering!
More AI crap.
I do not agree what you are telling about BMW 700. I own one of model year 1960 / 30 horsepower.
This car has run already 300.000 km with the first engine.
Its liability in daily use (of course in good wheather conditions ) still pleases me a lot. Travelling with constantly 120 km/h top speed for about 700 km distance on one day is not a problem , exhausting, anyhow heavy or considered as underpowered even nowadays.
For such a small and affordable car it has everything it needs.
If you need comfort at all sides what will you tell about 1960 s Porsche? A worse car?
You must consider what it was built for.
Petrol consumption of just 6.5 Liters at full speed is also remarkable for the BMW 700. Even with todays standards acceptable.
Overland with constant 90 km/h even 5 liters consumption is possible - with my 64! year old car.
The only bad things are the miss of seat belts and being a little bit noisy by motorsound from the back.
In my opinion this are the only "negative" aspects you can consider.
The handling of BMW 700 is quite amazing, -comparable with a go cart. No back spinning at all. You can pass curves faster than with the most of todays cars.
It is just like s chewing gum on the street.
Not for nothing this car
saved BMW by selling
over180.000 units and bringing back profit to save the company.
BMW 700 is a wonderful tiny car and much better than the competitor cars of that time, f.e.
VW beetle, 24 horsepower/ fuel consumption 11 liters.,
V-max 105 km/h.
Drive one BMW 700 first, please, before you are telling such unbelievable tales about a worse car of the 60s.
This not fair!
Hillman good solid cars
My dad loved his Minx series 3c. Built like a tank but, more importantly, dead easy to maintain!!! As was his later, 1800 version!!!!
All British cars from that period would rust. Vauxhall catered to the market it was aimed at. People wanted a lot of car for little 🤑 money.
Vauxhall all had good engines with exception of the SOHC slant 4.
All of the vehicles mentioned were best sellers..🥳
@@andrewwmacfadyen6958 Even the slant 4 was ok if properly maintained. i put one in my HB Viva eastate.
the best way to enjoy this visually delightful video... is, too, turn the sound down... some great designs here.. cheers 🍻
Yes and now worth thousands.
Cars from the 60s I had a 1968 hillman hunter royal automatic
Very reliable car.
Had two morris mini's had no problems I rarder had a car that was made back then to the cars built now 😳
....and not a Wet Belt in sight !!
poor People usely drove crappy used wornout cars I have drove a lot of them
Austin A35 and Ford Anglia were the mutts🤣
@maximuscomhad a moggie thouex post office van fort
@@maximuscomfort Wallace and Grommitt agree ...... with the former at least.
Driven
What a lot of utter nonsense, I knew some of those cars well, and a few of them were the extreme opposite of what's described, and they were certainly as good in every aspect as competing cars of the time and the price. Videos like these cause me to question the truth of everything else in these type of documentaries
Yup... starts the piece with a selection of mid-price, rock solid models... (many of which are still going today BTW).
And further insults them by mis-identifiying them.
I really liked the looks of Isabella. Borg. .
Why the American-voiced AI narration?
Also, the title is misleading. Poor people never buy new cars.
Poor people buy 10-year-old cars of every kind.
Hillman Minx was a great little family car. Had poky higher compression engine. I remember doing 93mph down the newly opened Brentwood bypass!
Since the top speed was 80 mph the speedo was off. I know I had one.
Regarding the Austin A70, the first shown was an A70 Hereford, the second an A40 Somerset, and finally a Hampshire, then back to an estate Hereford (with the bonnet air vents). They are all different, especially the Somerset. Oh Dear!
The criticism is taken out of context. Europe was just starting to recover from a devastating war and then engine power was not the top priority, but a cheap car reasonably comfortable that works for a family of four. The roads were narrow and speed limits everywhere with the exception of the German Autobahn.
Only poor people could afford these cars. There was no way that rich people could afford these cars.
"Poor people" in the UK in the 60's, couldn't afford any car. I know, I lived there until 1966. Most people in my neighbourhood took the bus, rode a bicycle, or a moped.
Consul classic you talk a shed load of crap . I had one for yrs and was regarded at the time yrs ahead of its time.
1500 cc 4 speed box never a days trouble and run on the roughest of 2 star petrol at the time. Shed load of speed under your right foot.
Comfortable on long runs .
One draw back was and the only gripe was the side lights at the front . They were house in a box on the inside of the wing. This used to fill with rubbish and unless it was cleaned regularly the light would rust out.
It was my first car and yrs of enjoyment.
When you talk about cars get you facts right instead of talking a landfill of crap.
I owned a Consul Classic and while the styling wasn't to everyone's taste, it was no more or less reliable than most of it's competitors. The only real weakness of the Classic was the column gear change fitted to some models. The Consul Classic was killed off by the Cortina which became Fords best selling car of the era and the two cars shared the majority of their components.
Hillman minx lasted my father 11 years.never gave much bother.
The Ford Consul Classic's styling was often inspired by AMC Rambler. One model resembled a compact Marlin!
Rubbish title and content. Back then us poor people never bought new anyway. Could just barely afford them second hand. Many of these Hillmans, Vauxhalls and English Fords were all we could get here in NZ (and were happy to have them) as you could not buy new unless you were rich and had money in the bank in the country of origin. NZ government rules dictated this. My point is though was that they were perfectly good in there day.
My Hillman minx was my first car and they were solid and reliable and wish I had kept it as being made in 1965 it would be worth alot now
I think it's quite positive that car manufactorers produced cars that poor people could afford. The post war period in European countries had more important things to focus on than making fancy cars. An American wouldn't understand that, coming from a country that became rich because of WW2. Many European countries had to be rebuilt from scratch.
Entertaining, if you have the time and patience, to spot the mistakes. And can handle the AI voice but don't take it as factual.
2024 expectations from 1950s tech straight after a war? yeah ok.
Its so easy to say a car is crappy. most people who owned them would disagree. For example my Aunt loved her Victor
Should have been advertised as "Crappy video about cars of the 60's, with little informed information"
Can get the logic of criticising a car designed to be cheap no thrills basic transport, for having no thrills.
Some of these (Ford Classic, Hillman Minx, Austin A70, Vauxhall Victor to name but four) were certainly not at the "budget" end of the UK market - we poor people were driving Anglias, Imps, A35s and the like and would have considered ourselves to be doing rather well to own some the cars you're denigrating.
True. My father had a Super Minx and we regarded it as somewhat posh, especially compared with cheap horrible things like the Ford Popular, Fiat 500, Morris Minor and Austin A35.
@@dukenukem5768 We actually had a "horrible" Ford Popular but I was too ashamed to admit it!
Never let an American review European vehicles. Yes the Victor was a rust bucket but so were many cars of the period. As long as it was washed and polished regularly they managed to last quite well.
I am sure who ever posted this , did to stir the possum. Some great cars of the era . Especially for those of us old enough to have who have owned one.
Many of the rust problems would have been overcome by spraying oil on the underside. Many cars left the factory with no under body protection at all and aftermarket application was left to the owner
This guy is too harsh in his criticism. Those cars needed to be judged by the standards of that era, not today's standards.
The 1958 Cadillac Fleetwood brougham was expensive and unreliable.the air suspension kept leaking.
Consul classic especially coupê looked great.
I have owned over 5 Minx cars ending up with the Super Minx they were ok as they went for cars of that era.. Best were the Humbers ,,
0:44 - 1:24 Green Vauxhall Victor that is a sharp looking little car ❤
2:13 Yellow " " super ❤
5:39 - 🥰😍🤩🙏 love it a little British Hot Rod. Many years ago I had a 1962 ford Anglia (Canada) 1foot narrower 1 1/2 foot shorter
love the Z piller with angled in back window
Poor people couldn't afford a car at all
This just in: In '50s/'60s Britain, few under 40s had cars and we were all in the poor house. Cars of the era were built to a price.
Yeah.. the Victorian times were pretty harsh.
Poor people could not afford cars at all during the 1960s. Take a look at any old street photo from the 1960s compared to today and you'll see how people owned a car back then.
In reality, poorer folk bought ten-year-old Jags and Zodiacs.
Go to some streets in areas like Peterlee and you'd have seen more cars parked in that street in the 1960's than you would today.
I'm not joking.
The person behind the camera must have been drunk. Terrible!
You keep hammering on about plain and utilitarian looking at things from a modern US viewpoint. That was what the market wanted, simple, reliable, economical and easy to fix. Something that was economical and reliable. Almost no one was interested in turning heads. Many of these cars were designed for people who had just experienced rationing. You were more likely to see a bomb site than a motorway. They didn't 'yearn for a more enjoyable driving experience', they just wanted to get to work and take the family out at the weekends. Also, some of these smaller models were a response to the Suez crisis, when petrol prices rocketed.
To be fair, all Vauxhall from the late 1950s 1960s were rust buckets. The Opels weren't quite as bad for rust. The Opel P1 is the same as a Vauxhall Cresta PA. Same American styling, same vague handling. The owners of both companies (GM) didn't really understand the European market at the time. They got better in the mid to late 1970s. Ford were much quicker to adapt.
The Reliant Regal needs a bit of background. After WW2, many people bought motorcycles as a cheap form of transport. The Reliant could be driven on a motorcycle licence. It wasn't designed for motorways, as there weren't many motorways when it was launched, there was only about 1,00 miles of motorway by 1969. My dad had a regal supervan in the early 1970's. It was fine provided you were not stupid in it. He had it for 5 tears and never even came close to overturning it.
The BMW 700 was reliable, economical and fun to drive. What more could you ask from a car.
The Renault 4CV was a response to the way vehicles were taxed. Tax was based on horsepower. There is more room in a 4CV than in a VW 1300.
The Zundapp confused no one. It was common to have doors at the front. BMW/Isetta, Trojan and Heinkel all made similar cars.
The Hillman Super Minx was certainly not budget, the Minx and the Imp were the cheaper models. . It was a reliable car that came with a 1592 cc engine which was adequate for the time. The 1725cc engine was introduced a couple of years later. The same car was sold as the Singer Vogue and the Humber Sceptre, Humber being the premium brand. I'd argue that Hillman's build quality was better than Humber's though.
The Fiat 1100 owner would have had a sense of pride about his vehicle. He (it was usually a man back then) was probably the only person in his street who owned a car. He would have probably been polishing it every weekend, before taking his family out for a Sunday drive in the countryside.
You could see the VW Variant from the front of the BMW 700
YES - the wings!
The first world War,the global economic great depression that followed and the second world War effected the car automobile industry very badly.Hence the quality of the cars were badly affected.
Love the Prince the third, does it have a moonwalk button? Crappy You Tube posts that only the terminally bored will watch.
The article is far more crappy than any of the cars.
I must take issue with the section about Reliant three wheeled cars. The clip of the blue Regal skidding and doing donuts was taken from a car channel (whose name I forget) which was intentionally doing just that. I owned two Regals and had no problem with any instability or tipping issues. If you drove around a corner or bend as if you were in a mini cooper then yes, there might well be a problem. They were economical and fun to drive.
The VV 4 banger was not only a notorious pos rust bucket.
It was sent to market with that certain foreknowledge. How crusty was that ?
Yet the older style model V Cresta 6 was a great car capable of quietly zooming down the road at 80 mph, hour after hour.
Whilst being a Routes fan , I considered the Fords and Vauxhalls to be rot boxes , and never was a BMC fan . I have had several Vauxhalls, which l considered to be a vast improvement From the Mk 1 Cavalier and Astra - more Opel influence .
What a load of ole' bollocks. I was only a nipper when my dad came home with a red Consul Classic. Me n' my brothers thought it was the dog's bollocks. We went across Europe down to Italy in it, me, 2 brothers and Mum n' Dad. One of my best memories. I spent more than 10 yrs trying to find one as a present for my Dad. Sadly he passed away before i managed to find one. But i'd be very happy to have one anyday. Suggest the narrator stick to talking about American shit-boxes.
Those were the days, dangerous speed, bad brakes, gobs of rust, points, plugs and condensers, according to grandpa.😂
We had to ski to school in winters and summers
Yep, and you could maintain all of those items at home. try doing that with modern cars.
Yes, some cars were DEFINATELY crappy, and were dangerously underpowered. But you have often criticised cars that you just didn't like.
The best low-budget car and one of most iconic, was that of the VW Beetle. Its production run spanned almost three decades originally prior to them being built in Brazil.
While the Beetle is not documented in the video, it has taken on many designs that prove that such a design can be updated.
As the video lists the terrible cars designed and built I wish to provide a more positive insight into automotive history.
The beetle! Proof if you need it that millions of people can all be wrong.
On the (early?) Victor, PLEASE everyone, notice the baby Dagmars front AND rear!
I like the look of the Victor
When cars had great colours, invalid turquoise reliant things were soooooo freaking sexy, I chopped all my limbs off only to find out they stopped making them! Bugger 😟
Loved my v Victor but ho the rust
The A70 Austin Hampshire road shown is actually a Hereford.
They would probably fetch a lot of money now though.
Nope: most can be bought for less than a knackered 10 year old Fiesta.
Sadly...
What a load of bollocks, site blocked.
The BMW 700 looks remarkably like a VW from the front. Did they have the same designers or was there a collabiration between the two company's?
The Vauxhall Company address the rust problem with the FB, which was better protected from rust. What I understand from a fellow UA-cam channel called Cold War Motors, both American and Canadian built cars rusted quite badly as well. Please get your facts right. As for the BMW, was it a CRAPPY car… It was a car that saved the company from going bust, and from what I understand, an excellent vehicle for it's time! It's a pity that BMW shafted GLAS in the early 1960's and later Rover in the late 1990's by telling lies about the financial well being of GLAS and the fact that Rover nearly made BMW go under. How comes when BMW got hold of Rolls Royce, they dropped Rover like a hot potato. If you are going bust, A. you don't by Rolls Royce and B. you don't build a high tech factory in Sussex. You would go under like Chrysler has so many times over the years.
Love the Fiat 1300.
Reliant spot the rust ! 😅
Never had my Borgward overheating!!!! that fact you mention I do not agree with.
Sounds like cars today
Now you are pissing allover Borgward, this was a quality car company that was taken over by my favourite German company (oh, how I hate them) BMW!
You dont know what youre talking about. These were fit for purpose in the day , and sold to many hard working people earning a basic salary for hard work.
British cars do NOT have 'undercarriages' or 'hoods'. The most crap thing here is the video.
At least all the British an European cars had a 4 speed box. Ford and Vauxhall kept throwing out 3 speed ones.
The Consul/Zephyr/ Zodiac MK2 would have been a far better car with a 4 speed box. Vauxhall Velox and Cresta was too yankified
(3:56) That's enough crappy cars now. : (