HD Lucille Ball, Carol Burnett & Lucie Arnaz 1971 Interview on "The Dick Cavett Show"
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This program features Muhammad Ali's longtime physician Dr. Ferdie Pacheco, comedian and actress Carol Burnett, comedian and actress Lucille Ball, and her daughter, Lucie Arnaz.
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ORIGINAL AIRDATE: March 9, 1971, 11:30 p.m. EST on ABC
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In his opening monologue, Cavett comments on the anniversary of the death of thirteenth American President Millard Fillmore; the previous night's 'Fight of the Century' between Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier, attended by Cavett and many other notable figures; and the possibility of a White House wedding.
The first guest, Pacheco, sits down with Cavett and discusses the "gory rumors" about Ali's injuries from the fight, including the apparently false claim that his jaw was badly broken by Frazier; the debate amongst fans and spectators about Frazier's win by decision; and Ali's pre-fight dietary habits, partially dictated by his strict Muslim faith.
Next, Arnaz takes the stage and comments on her exceptional height; her dislike of her Beverly Hills Catholic school experience and sense that Catholic grammar-school nuns are "recruited from the Army"; the ups and downs of growing up with famous parents; and memories of playing Ann-Margret's role in her at-home production of "Bye Bye Birdie," presented in a converted garage theatre.
Carol Burnett then joins Dick Cavett and Lucie Arnaz and discusses her "groovy childhood" and favorite games, including a memorable incident in which she pretended to be two twin sisters; whether her own children show potential for showbiz; her past as a rather literal "closet tap-dancer"; her mysterious "fairy godfather," the benefactor who gave her a sizable loan to start her show business career on the conditions of concealing his identity and helping others later in life; and whether she has ever been subjected to the unpleasant "casting-couch" Hollywood cliché.
Finally, Lucille Ball joins the others onstage and discusses being "fired" by renowned Broadway producer Florenz Ziegfeld at the tender age of sixteen; her brief use of the stage name "Diane Belmont," after the racetrack; an unfavorable review from a drama-school teacher; her sense of honor at receiving the International Radio and Television Society's Gold Medal, the ceremony for which will take place later in the week; her amusement at reading a script requesting "a Lucille Ball type" and then not winning the role; Hollywood's "snobbish" attitude about drama over comedy, including Ball's well-received dramatic role in "The Big Street" (1942); the challenges of making time for family while carrying on a busy showbiz career; personal questions for Cavett from the three guests, including queries about his cooking talents and his unusual middle name; Sigmund Freud's comments on women and Burnett's opinion that the famed doctor was "mixed up a lot"; the personal attributes that they would most like to change, including Ball's famously dyed hair; and Burnett's hopes that her daughters will turn out similar to the well-adjusted Arnaz.
(Cavett hosted several talk shows under the title "The Dick Cavett Show," which aired on ABC from 1969 to 1972, on PBS from 1977 to 1982, on the USA network from 1985 to 1986, and on CNBC from 1989 to 1995. During 1973 to 1975, the show aired irregularly as part of "ABC's Wide World of Entertainment." Other versions of "The Dick Cavett Show" include a variety series on CBS in 1975 and a talk show on ABC in 1986.)
CREDITS
John Gilroy........ Executive Producer
Marshall Brickman........ Producer
Richard Romagnola........ Associate Producer
Michael Zannella........ Associate Producer
David Barnhizer........ Director
David Axelrod........ Writer
Tom Whedon........ Writer
David Lloyd........ Writer
Bob Cunniff........ Writer
Jim Mulholland........ Writer
Dick Cavett........ Host
Ferdie Pacheco........ Guest
Lucie Arnaz........ Guest
Carol Burnett........ Guest
Lucille Ball........ Guest - Розваги
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I used to work at Paramount studios and as an employee, we always learned about the history of the place. Back in her day, Lucille ball had a production office on the lot. (In fact, the Lucy building still exists.) Her offices were in an area of Paramount that was also RKO Studios which I believe she and Desi owned. What people don’t realize is that she established a child day care center on the studio Lot that still exists today for employees and their children. She created it for her staff and other employees who had to work crazy hours so that they could still be with their kids during the day. So hearing her talk about working and taking care of kids in this discussion is very meaningful considering what she did at Paramount.
@Luke Hunter ou
She really did help others as she contracted to!!!!! I LOVE CAROL (will u marry me 💍)
She was funny but always seemed stern to me but obviously she had a heart.
Thank you for sharing
What a wonderful story! I grew up watching I Love Lucy (in reruns) and cannot remember not knowing her. But as I grew older, I didn't have a terribly high opinion of her, for some reason. This interview has completely changed my point of view, and particularly what she had to say about working women and children. The story you shared is "the cherry on top"!
This show is 50 years old this year (2021). I watched from beginning to end and thoroughly enjoyed it. This was class.
Snap - 8/29/21
Me too.
I watched it BACK Then too. Tells you how old I am
Really? Even when he kept pressing asking if anything inappropriate happened to her and went on about how beautiful she was? That was so cringy
@@helenf.7221 I think its ok to verbalize if she was put in any positions that were uncomfortable. This happens every day but it's not on the news. Ball was a strong and powerful woman. When you get a little older, you get some moxie and don't take any s@#t. I'm sure she didn't take any crap. She may have been put in those positions as a youth - clearly she wasn't going to address it. When she got a little older she had Desi who was a womanizer - of other women but his presence in her life was some protection from those behaviors from other men. When she got older still she had Gary but by then she was old and a powerhouse. She wasnt getting pressured for anything. Even Nicole Kidman said, one of the positives about being with Tom Cruise was men / producers etc. left her alone. Not fair but a reality for women. Listen to Rose McGowan talk friend.
Lucie Arnaz was very engaging and well spoken. Carol was such a fun interview. Lucille a class act.
The intelligence of Lucille Ball goes under rated. Heres a small hint of her greatness😉. In the 1960s "Star Trek" was turned down by every Studio in Hollywood. When it was pitched to her company Desilu, she signed it up instantly. If Lucille Ball hadn't of seen its potential and believed in it when no one else did. "Star Trek" wouldn't be known today. Its difficult to comprehend a World without "Star Trek" and the massive Sci Fi franchise we know it today not being in existence. It's existence is all is due to a wise decision from the Legendary "Lucille Ball" she had both brains and beauty in an era and industry dominated by men👏👏👏
lucille ball's eyes are absolutely full of power and wisdom. what a giant of show business
You can tell she been through some stuff in that business.
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cliff luebke:Classy lady.A legend.
I love that this was like a group of friends all sitting around talking. Even the audience was considered part of the show and not trained puppets like audiences today. I wish talk shows were more like this.
i agree 🐰
There are still some shows that use the audience's live reactions. All you have to do is think about it, they're trying to get "x amount" of show into "x amount" of time. A live audience is not always going to stop at the right time. ** Fun fact: (according to QI) people will actually think a joke more funny, and are more prone to laugh when they insert some "canned laughter".
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I loved seeing Lucille laugh so hard at Carol’s jokes. Great stuff.
They really liked each other
Lucille Ball. Unprecedented, unique, unequalled. Never to be repeated.
Amen.
agreed!
Ah... just trust that there is hope
One of the things that impressed me about Lucille, Carol, and Dick is that, to be such people of fame and stardom, they all seemed to be such down-to-earth, self-deprecating individuals. I believe they remembered the struggles of their roots and origins and, after they reached their summits of success, they never lost the grateful spirit of realizing what they had learned in their valleys.
John, very well said.
@@kthmiller1494 , thank you very much!
So very well said
@@MrSnidleywhiplash , thank you!
And they were gracious in the way they speak
This a was absolutely thrilling to watch! The way Carol’s eyes lit up when Lucy gave her a compliment!
Adrelle177 I know almost teary
Carol definitely stood on the shoulders of Lucy….Lucy was the first major female comedic superstar … when u review many of the “I Love Lucy” episodes and see all her outrageous outfits and circumstances …. The Carol Burnett Show was Lucy2.0 in many respects … both outstanding talents!!
@@jv3331 Tarzan yell in both their honors.
Exactly! So glad they cut to Carol and we could see her eyes as Lucy spoke. Such an honest and beautiful moment.
I liked how they brought Carol out after Lucie and they just talked before Lucille Ball came out. Great rapport Carol had with Lucy’s daughter.
Lucie said many years later that Lucille Ball was a control freak. Desi seemed more interactive and loving with the kids. Lucy was more remote. Lucy sure looks beautiful here.
Carol’s face when Lucille Ball complimented her is a MOOD ... what a moment!
Lucille Ball was strikingly beautiful.
She had gorgeous eyes.
She was 60 years old here ( BORN 1911). She looks incredible, very intelligent, a true ICON.
@T Z, you are, 80+ years later, in agreement with the top cinematographers and photographers of the Golden Era of Hollywood.
They nicknamed her 'Technicolor Tessie' because her coloring was perfect for testing the then newly emerging color film stocks. She was their top model.
In August 1943 (her birthday month) Life magazine dedicated an article to her and started it by describing her as "a colorful girl".
Beyond that, she was an extraodinarily successful entrepeneur at time when the guys running the business assumed women were suited only for secretarial work. I have a LOT of admiration for her and what she accomplished.
Carol Burnett’s face when she hears Lucille Ball compliment her is priceless. She must have been absolutely blown away by hearing those words from such a legend. Amazing.
Well, they were really good friends off-screen....
Lucy was Carol's spirit animal...very much so.
it really was beautiful. i’ve never met Carol, but a dear friend of mine spent a few days in her company, and she was extremely warm and affectionate. she looked so beautiful in that moment, that i took a screenshot.
Lucy was a mentor of sorts to Carol. She reported that she sent her flowers on her birthday each year. When Lucy died the flowers arrived for Carol's birthday after Lucy's death as she had already ordered them.
She was lovely and humble wasn't she.
All I can say is "Richard Alva Cavett" was one gutsy man interviewing these three together! I love the casual atmosphere; and how they all seemed enjoy each other's company.
Incredible hes so natural. The best I've ever seen. I think he is better than Carson. He's brilliant
A classy gentleman smart
@@zapkvr Better than Carson? You're nuts. He's really not that good at all. Or has bad writers. But he did lead the way.
I miss this era, America was so much more respectful and fun without being disgusting. Big fan of all these people over the years. Much respect for the poster of this DC episode. Bravo !!
They were too classy to elect someone like Trump back then.
You're insane
America is built on disgusting.
People FAKED and hid their problems.....which only led to more problems.
Life was always awful. Y'all were beating kidsz, abusing wives, and molesting the weak while smiling.
Stop.😊
@@AdamsOlympiabut only a decade away from electing someone like Reagan, who started the trend of degeneracy.
Carol and Lucy were two comedy legends. This is a historic interview.
When I watch something like this it seems like it happened on another planet. The world in which we now live bears little resemblance to what it was like 30 years ago. Night and day.
Now 50 years ago.
I agree. It actually pulls on my heart so strong it makes me grieve. I am 31 so I missed this entire time in American culture. I'd give almost anything to raise my kids during this time. It does seem like an alternate universe.
Leon Allan Davis . I am still thinking after we go one year forward we would land somewhere , any year btwn 1966 - 1991. Just throw away the 21st Century.
I’m 56 and I remember watching all of these shows. The opening music took me back to my childhood. It is definitely different world now, but I think we will move into something better, because truth being revealed will expose all the lies that our world has been built on. Even these shows masked a lot of dark secrets that went on in Hollywood and in the world.
It's true. This is the world of my early childhood. But, I think for everything that was 'better' then, there is something that was 'worse' then. The "joke" about homosexuality in his opening monologue for example.
Just watching Lucille Ball walk out on that stage like the icon that she was. All elegance, grace, and beauty. They don't make them like that any more. LOVE!
Carlos Garcia current "stars" could learn a lot from the old timers.
oh no Lucy only had two kids Lucille and Desi junior. its not in Lucy to give up a child, I was surprised Carol had three,
I was soooo proud of her...SHE GAVE US LUCILLE BALL ⭐🌹
please they had non classy girls past
She’s becoming my favorite star OF ALL
They don't make 'em like this anymore!
The show, the host, the guests...What a special treat this is!
Agree
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Absolutely mesmerised by Lucille Ball. 2021, and she STILL CATCHES my full attention. WHAT a Lady.
She was a truly legendary lady!
When they talk about what makes a star, it’s that something extra. Lucy had that, big time! Such a smart cookie.
I appreciate what Lucy has to say about working mothers: make time for your kids, even if it's not easy
It's Saturday night and I'm watching Carol Burnett. Mom and I used to watch her show every Saturday night when I was growing up. Think I'll scare up some Carol Burnett episodes to watch, pop some corn and pour a tall glass of nostalgia. I miss you, Mom. *tugs on an ear*
That's so sweet.
Awe bless your heart and it is so wonderful to see shows that my mom and I watched and she would tell me who was who etc. But when missing her I love to watch one of our favorite shows and sometimes it can take me so back that I can remember comments we made even sometimes can smell either food or goodies she would make or a few times I even smelled the perfume she used to wear very faintly
It's Saturday Night and I'm missing my Mom too.
I'm sorry you are all missing your mom's, me too.😟
@Melinda Pelfrey I've often thought about how wonderful it would have been if digital photography & digital video had been around since the late 60s. It would have been essential for almost everyone in the 70s & 80s. Can you imagine having had a really expensive camera. Then interviewing your dad & asking him all sorts of questions. And he told you about his most precious moments when he was on military duty or just traveled to
learn what was out there he desperately needed to see. A journey into a certain a safari expedition. Maybe his dream was to be an archeologist like Indiana Jones.
Maybe he wanted to sail in a luxury cruise in the Bahamas. I would have wanted to have video footage of my father telling me all about his struggles trying to survive on his own as a young man. Finding a town he could finally settle into. And all the odd jobs he did until he finally found the occupation he would dedicate his life to. If all this had been recorded on digital video. Sadly the devices of today were not available to us back then 😭
I love how these two comedic greats applaud one another's success.
Lucille Ball complimenting Carol Burnett & watching Carol's reaction to it was priceless!
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They were best friends until Lucille Ball died.
Well Dick Cavett telling Carol that he thought she was an incredibly attractive women, and saying it with obvious sincerity, took her so much by surprise she was speechless. I agree with him too but Carol Burnett didn't seem to set much store by her looks. That kind of modesty is so becoming.
Looking the way Lucille Ball walked, the way she dressed, looked, talked and acted; she's truly a legend.
Wore beautiful clothes and always immaculately groomed.
Lucie is so well spoken, so personable, so mature! And she was 19! Love it 🥰
@Rach Simply put it was good upbringing. Sure her parents were divorced but the love they gave their children shows itself in volumes. Of course of the raising was up to Ms. Ball - and as a woman, she instilled onto her daughter the do's and don'ts. Even at 19 she knew how to dress with class - and by NOT showing her "goods" off in front of everybody.
@@rhamiemanuelmoura-yameen8416 maybe good up bring however there are many good folks in this world that had terrible up bring. It is called they were SMART and just good folks! By the way a woman's body is not "the goods". Shall we call men who go around in shorts or no shirt as "showing off the goods ? Lol
@Rainna Thank you for your comment . "The goods" comment is in line with the lingo of the 60's & 70's and censors of the time period - of which I am from. And being a southern olde gentleman, I avoided saying the body parts by name. I wad just commenting that Ms. Lucie Arnaz at 19 yrs. was not on display. But 50 yrs. ago people believed and adhered to a dress code on television. Plus I will go out a limb, that she had RESPECT for her mother. As far as the men are concerning these days with their buttocks - (excuse me had to use the word) on display - sagging like the Bieber (and not The Beaver of the olden days) yes truly bad taste. As far as their expose chest fit as a fiddle , do not giggle. As they go jogging by, move over to the middle and let them sweat 😓 and sizzle. Alas, a different generation.
@@rhamiemanuelmoura-yameen8416 Yes and in the 50s when women were blamed and still are for being raped as saying "they were dressed like a whore", which is ridiculous. It is men who can't control themsleves is the problem. We expect men to not kill people no matter what hateful things they may say to them, just the same as they should control any sexual acts on a person against their will no matter what they wear (rape really does not have anything to do with sex really, anyways). Her mother respected her because she made it in a man's world and being a woman. God and her will be the only ones who will know what cost it was. Women do not talk about it especially back then because they are alway told it was their fault.
Oh Yes
"TWO empty chairs" (distraught face) Lucie is adorable and delightful Lol
I watch I Love Lucy every single day. It’s not only my love of Lucille, but that my mother looked so much like her that they could have been siblings. And just to watch the show makes me feel like my mom is still here.
I watch it a lot and it still upsets all are gone
I look at it often as well.
If I had been anywhere in that building when both of them were there , I would be bragging about it.
Lucille Ball was a tough, street smart classy lady. I grew up watching her various TV shows and always loved her!
LOVE the relationship between Lucy and her daughter. Never got to witness it before this show. You can tell Lucy taught her daughter well, and that the instruction and advice was well received. 👍👌👏
Lucy's daughter took care of her to the end. They remained very close.
I heard Lucy was a nasty stuck up bish to anyone she considered her lessers (ie anyone not a big star like her) and she was decidedly NOT funny irl and didn't joke around
Still....her daughter went and bad mouthed her in public about being a bad mother!!! Later, she tried to take it back.
@@dollyrama1132 Are you referring to her Joan Rivers interview? I don't think it was all that bad. She basically said that her mother alienated her from her father, and that happens all the time.
It fascinates me how differently people talked and carried themselves on American vs. today. I can't quite describe the differences, but there's a restraint and elegance that we just don't display anymore. What a difference 50 years can make to social behavior.
It’s called morality and decency. There is no profanity and sexual innuendo
Lucille Balls' story about her failure to join the Ziegfeld Follies in 1927 at the age of 16 is fascinating. She tells the story so well and makes no apologies. She just tells it straight without editing. Her crying. Her chasing the guy down the street like an idiot. She even says she was an embarrassing idiot. Hilarious stuff. I love her.
[Comaradarie].I miss this wit and wisdom. Let's continue to be tolerant and carefree with one another through these challenging times. Be real, be human, be brave. Love one another.
Carol Burnett, one of my ALL-TIME FAVORITE personalities. I adore her.
Ben Schaeffer me too
Ben Schaeffer I love Carol, and interestingly her married name is Hamilton. ...I'm also Carol Hamilton! ♡♡
Lucie was so poised and ready to take on the world. She has kept Lucy's and Desi's legacy alive . I especially appreciate her voicing Mr. Arnez's unrecognized and unappreciated multi faceted talents. Love Ms.Burnett. ❤
Lucille Ball always said that Desi was the genius behind the scenes, wonderful comedic sense, also in terms of producer and director +A; and of course his knowing how to put the I Love Lucy on the air. I also give great credit to Lucille Ball, it was she that risked her career insisting that Desi play her husband on tv, also she brought her writers along from her radio My Favorite Husband, Jess Oppenheimer, Madelyn Pugh and Bob Carroll Jr, and she recommended Karl Freund, cinematographer, who she worked with in movies. So both Desi and Lucy were magic together in terms of abilities and intelligence and acknowledgements of each other. Too bad their marriage did not work out as well.
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It’s always been ArnAZ now. Mandela Effect.
My 91-year-old mother is still Lucille Ball classy! 🤗❤️
I love both Lucy and Carol so very much and can't imagine the shi* they had to go through in their careers. Thank you ladies for paving the way.
Neither had easy lives but persevered. Both worked hard for their success.
I wish the public had been more aware of Desi's abusive nature. I think with Lucy at the helm she could have been a spokesperson for abusive relationships and really made change happen sooner.
@@annettepora8091 and Joan Rivers.
and joan rivers.we speak your name.
@River Wolfe listening to this interview makes it pretty clear they had to put up with a lot.
I love the audience answering Lucy when she asked the name of the donuts shop. Priceless.
This was lovely. Lucie is absolutely beautiful!! What a great compliment Carol paid both she and her mother! Lucy appears to be such a doting mother! What a joy to watch this!
Lucie was only 19? Wow, she speaks so well and comes off so mature. I was half her age when I was 19 too hahaha
What an absolute class act Lucille Ball is (love Carol Burnett as well). You can tell Lucy knows who she is, but it's clear she remembers where she came from, such a treat to listen to and watch this wonderful woman.
What else can I say other than I Love Lucy, literally. This interview with these three brilliant women is amazing. I’d love seeing the relationship between Lucy and her daughter it is just the sweetest thing ever. You can definitely tell how much they love each other and how much Lucy respects her mom.
That was the whole point that I was trying to make. Respect all around. Even Mr. Cavett admired & respected them. He was thrilled to be the man in the middle. They went on his show KNOWING they were going to be respected. Ms. Ball and millions of others watched his shows because he was no phoney baloney.
These ladies were together and gracious, smart, and funny and it gladened the heart to see them be successful They were such decent role models
@@carolchesterbanks9115 not what I heard about Lucy
@@lockandloadlikehell You've probably heard that she was a savvy business woman who didn't suffer fools, and was very serious about her work, hard on co-players if they didnt take work as serious as she did.After all, as exec producer, it was Her Money, Her Name that were at stake. Outside of work she was shy and engaging, prefering small groups of people, and family to large parties.
I love seeing Lucille laugh with such sincerity at Carols jokes throughout and at Dick's second name, I just love seeing her like that
I love how intelligently and genuinely they all spoke. Seems like intelligent humor and genuine conversation is so rare on TV now. How sad.
PS) what amazing professional etiquette Lucille Ball had by sharing the conversation (asking Carol questions) with her fellow commedian/colleague. Another rare act of intelligence, class and thoughtfulness to see anywhere now a days.
Not just on tv, any where.
MY GOD!!! LUCILLE BALL AND CAROL BURNETT TOGETHER.....HEAVEN!!!!
There is an episode of The Lucy show called Lucy gets a Roommate which guest stars Carol Burnett and Joe Pecci.
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Look also at the skit they did together called "Chutzpah" before Carol got her own show. They worked very well together. Lucy admired Carol from the time she saw her in "Once Upon a Mattress".
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Lucy also appeared on Carol’s show.
What a treat! These women exude class, dignity, grace, and so much wisdom.
mrs32509
I hadn’t seen that until I read your comment. Then had to rewind to that part. I felt horrible for young Lucy. Lucy’s mother acts like 19 is such a mature age. In this interview I see a young woman trying to act grown. Maybe that is just the mom in me. But I still think of my 5 children who are actually grown adults as kids. And they are 31, 30, 29 and 27. So that surprised me to hear Lucille think that way about a 19 year old.
A couple of bums
Yes they all do and it is so wonderful to watch. What happened to people? Seriously?
@@maryallison0509 Dear Mary: Obviously, times are different: With today's hip-chic-cool millennial type personalities being shunted into our society with their avant-garde, seminal, weird company's and money-making ways, I wouldn't mind dabbling into their scene, wetting my feet, and whetting my curiosity for the new style of youth.
A few moments of sacrificing my silly soul on UA-cam videos, whilst simultaneously playing video games, having stipends running like manna and freshwater, why not? Dignity is for royalty. Even Harry wanted to branch out into his own puerile personality.
lucy's daughter sad face at her mom's joke of throwing her self a the largest limo she ever saw because she was depressed.
priceless.
Yes, at 38.20, her look of devastation. To hear your momma was suicidal would scare anyone. 🙏
Her daughter is giving me Liza vibes
37:29 "And you've never heard this either, Lucy..." -- 38:14 - Lucy's "huge limousine!" line then daughter's face ....
But then... that perfectly timed effortless zinger from Lucy Arnaz after Dick remarks 38:35 "I would be talking to an empty chair!" - "Two of them!" -- Wow, that was not only brilliant but emotionally loaded as well. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree!
EXACTLY what I thought, and I said I understand it because I was close to my mom and if she had been telling a story like that, others may have heard the jesting, but I would have been thinking that’s not funny mom and would have wanted to give her a big hug!!
I wouldn't say her "mom's joke" - she was telling a story about how devastated she was at age 16 and had suicidal intentions and toke an action which could have killed her - but fortunately the limo stopped and did not run her over. Probably first time Lucy told this story in the public and first time her daughter heard it was told in a light way, but also was very emotional. (and sad). On some levels Lucille was guarded about her emotions over early traumas (losing her father before age 4 and the devastating story about her mgf and how her mother was away from the home months or a year or more at a time when they were children) Childhood friends said she did not discuss these things, and one childhood friend rightfully called her mother's actions as abandonment. Also Lucille was left with her step-grandparents who were strict and not loving. Yet, Lucille Ball never spoke of any of them, even credited her stop father for encouraging her into shows; and years later after the stepfather died and step-grandfather died, Lucille offered to take care of the step-grandmother. Amazing. Knowing these facts about Lucille Ball totally makes me appreciate her so much as a deep, caring person - who did not complain about her past, always saying what she got from these people that was positive.
Lucie Arnaz looked like she was going to cry as her mom talked about her suicidal attempt. I loved seeing these ladies talking about themselves.
It shocked me too. I also noticed her daughters face
I am 54 and would wear ANY of those outfits they have on,, today,,,simply stunning!
I'm 25 and I wear suits and vintage clothes 💌
I just wrote the same thing. That outfit is so classy. I would wear that now.
It would be like wearing an art piece. Clothes used to be crafted with such exquisite quality.
Lucie's outfit sums up the 70s!
Agreed!
Lucy has another talent. She can tell a story, and we ARE THERE! She remembers names, cars, streets, what day of the week it was, I love this!
MrRJMGREEN Carol can tell a great story also.
I remember her telling that story about receiving a strange signal either over the radio and finding out it was some sort of German enemy transmission she heard while driving down the highway in the early 40s.
MrRJMGREEN She didn’t remember what street the Ziefeld Theatre was on 🤷🏾♂️
@@larryhawkins3294 The facts of that story are stranger than fiction. Lucy Ball had a very rare yet not unheard of thing happen. I believe she was walking, not driving down the street when she was actually picking up a high powered illegal radio signal broadcast in her teeth. Something about her recent metal fillings acting as a fluke antenna. She was weirded out by it, reported it and the story is that when it was investigated it was some spy nest with an undergound radio link that they busted and she was credited as a wartime heroine of sorts. Don't know if it''s true, yet that's what I recall.
@@larryhawkins3294 www.bradfordfamilydentist.ca/lucille-ball-heard-spies-dental-fillings/ It was reportedly a Japanese spy transmission and yes, she was driving.
Lucille voice is just so earthy and amazing
It's the Lucky Strikes!
@@effsixteenblock50 Yes she was a smoker for sure. Lots of people were.
That was from smoking
I love how Lucille showed. The love she had for her children. Her eyes would literally sparkle.
She's built just like her mother, even though she don't look like either parent she was a beautiful mix of them both. Her hair is pretty also...
She looks exactly like Desi Arnaz!
Does she have a jersey accent?
I think she looks a lot like Desi
What an amazing woman Lucille was. Talk about the school of hard knocks. Starting as a penniless 16 year old, to become a multi millionairess, without anything like today's instant fame reality shows is just amazing. Her story of success is just as valid today as it was then. And the difference was, she had real talent!
Paul DG i
Paul, very well said!
Paul DG - Oh yes! Lucille Ball was a remarkable woman. But we have to remember also she had help from her former husband Desi Arnaz, Sr. He was instrumental in getting Desilu started. If you read about him he had some "firsts" in the film industry. One of them was when they filmed "I Love Lucy" it was the first time anyone did a sitcom in front of a live audience. I believe the show "I Love Lucy" really was the start of her being a household name.
It's amazing what she did. Considering how hard it has always been for women in comedy. On top of it, she did it during a time when it was hard for females in show business anyway. And she made it look so easy.
Read Carol Burnetts first book - you wanna talk about hard knocks, I have never admired anyone more - drunken parents, desolately poor, heavens hand was her grandmother, and no whining about how bad life was- she made it on her own grit- and whoa did I laugh , its a quick read - hope you can find it.
With the recent death of Betty White, true comedians are rare. Carol Burnett, love you.
Yup! She's all we have left😥
Oh I loved this, two such Icons! And Luci's daughter held her own, I know she's proud of her, as I am! How supportive and encouraging they were of one another was Amazing! Everyone got their props, a BEAUTIFUL show, True Ladies In The Houzz! 👏♥️
Lucie was/is super articulate and funny. Seems so genuine. Could easily do daytime TV.
Sad to think that Carol B later lost her daughter. How future events stay blinded is so merciful 😢
She was delightful honest person. My most awesome friend I miss her immensely 💔
@@mariannepeart8570 Carol's daughter, Carrie Hamilton, had lung cancer. She died at age 38.
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I love this! Carol is just naturally funny, and Lucy was sharp as a tack. The outfits are gorgeous, too. 😍. This interview was before I was born, yet, watching this makes me feel “at home”.
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Lucille Balls' wardrobes are to die for ! On her LUCY SHOW with GAYLE GORDON, LUCYS' wardrobe is impeccable. LUCY wore a pink dress that matched the lining of her pink coat, pink bag, pink shoes and pink leather elbow length gloves.
LUCILLE BALL also did a skit on that show, that centered on flying on a plane and being in her seat. Her long legs and knees were together the whole skit - not easy - and this woman did an entire comedy sketch, sitting down. I honestly think God just let me catch that episode because it was superb, a true comedian. The only one in her class! You can watch it on this media.
In all reality, LUCILLE BALLS' wardrobe is to die for.
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OMG to be so lucky enough to be in the audience that interview. All my favorite comedienne. They all looked elegant but Ms. Lucille's dress/suit is too die for.
Legendary.
I love how sweet Carol and lucy are with compliments to each other and to others. So lovely to see. They lift the people around them in the world up. Its fabulous
Aw carols face when Lucile called her an amazing serious actor she was so heart warmed ah Lucile talks for carol and really loves her it’s cute
Love how she walks out onto the stage … like a QUEEN. And she was a queen.
And the way she walked off after the lights dimmed! She wasn't about to stay and do fake kibitzing. Such an extraordinary person.
Lucy did say she was a model for awhile. Obviously retained the poise required.
@@Remnants100 If one sees her early photos she is so beautiful - and yes, she was a good model and that poise remained with her always.
God, Lucy was so tickled by Carol. Had. Her. Rolling. Legends making legends laugh.
Truth Indeed
The amount of sheer talent and brilliance on that stage for this show, has had such an enormous impact on so many areas of American culture that you could never possibly calculate it. I would probably faint if I were ever in the presence of this I’d be so overwhelmed with awe.
Dick Cavett is so charming. The relaxed way he relates to these exceptional women, and they to him is a joy to behold. I could watch this over and over again and always be delighted. What a treat to share that love and comradarie
Cavett is just about as good an interviewer as one could want, not quite in the same league as Terry Gross, but then Gross really is in a league of her own AND the "pitch" where her league plays is much more narrowly constricted, making it much easier for Gross to control the reins and ask her penetrating questions as well as offer her own sometimes stunning observations. Still, I think that Gross would have probably a LOT of trouble trying to work in Cavett's "busy" talk-show milieu, whereas Cavett would slip, probably very comfortably, on to Gross's home "turf" and perform very admirably, once ensconced there.
I actually thought he was really awkward and his tone of voice was really off putting lol... to each their own!
So casual and natural
@@alfordreynolds6022 Acute observation! I am a huge fan of Terry Gross, and I agree with you. They are working in a very different context. Terry's team edits out around 25% of the interview before it airs, while Cavett (in this instance) was having to entertain a live audience at the same time as interviewing three people simultaneously!
I don’t find him charming at all.
A young Carol Burnett getting high praise from the Queen herself, Ms. Ball.
lambjack1 Carol is real young here! For a few min I thought she was Vicky Lawrence
She doesn’t look very young to me... she looks like she’s in her mid 40’s. How old is she here?
@@Name-oz4lq According to Wikipedia she was born April 26, 1933 so she was 37 or 38.
lambjack1 Am I the only one that hates the term Ms? I think it’s stupid! I don’t understand why so many women hate to be called Miss or Mrs.
John Peel I really don’t see the problem when a woman is being called Ms or mrs.
Lucy was a national treasure. What a great lady, thoughtful, well spoken and smart.
Thank you. This was basically timeless for me. Everyone on that stage is an amazing talent and seeing them interact makes me miss those days.
Lucy and Carol Burnett were good friends. I love how tickled Lucy gets with Carol. Two great comedians! :)
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On one of Carol's (?) Shows, Carol and Lucy did a very good dance / singing routine, as Office Cleaners.
Do try to find it on UA-cam : you can see the skill and rapport both have.
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This has to be the best time I've ever had watching a show like Cavett's! The ladies were so relaxed with each other, and seeing them turn the tables on Dick was gold! Honest, hilarious, revealing without being over the top like so many do. Thank you for posting. Love them all! 😊❤️❤️❤️👏
Well said! And oh yeah, I agree 💯
I loved watching her show as a little girl
, she was such an inspiration in my life. When she stated her gratitude for all her parts that were offered to her, I cried. This is her loving grateful heart I saw as a little girl.
Yes, Lucille Ball had no ill will with any part or anyone - it was all learning. When in early movies - they would give her the parts where something (like pie) was thrown in her face - give it to her she doesn't mind. Lucille Ball felt she was always learning and felt gratitude. I think that is why she and Desi stayed friends till the day he died. After their divorce - when the hurt,. anger, and disappointment abated, she and Desi supported each other as co-parents - never a problem and Desi also gave Lucy advice about various projects and about running Desilu (which she asked for). Even after both had successfully remarried, they maintained respect and love for each other.
I was impressed with their vocabulary and how they spoke so easily. Very down to earth people.
I absolutely adore the the fact that Lucy and Carol are friends and that Lucy would hang out with Carol. Lucy was such a huge icon and Carol now herself is one. These two ladies are the Best in comedy! Miss you Lucy! 💗
I watched this whole interview 😁I tell you the truth,When Lucy came out her presence was off the chain.What a true classy absolutely amazing Woman.The way Carol looks at Lucy you can tell she truly admires her.Love this interview with all 3 of these Lady's 😉
Yeah her outfit how Grand is that really suits her
Lucy and Carol can't get enough love them so much💞and Lucy's outfit I would wear that today grogeous.
Lucy sent Carol Burnett flowers every year on her birthday. Lucy died on Carol's birthday. She ordered the flowers shortly before she died. Carol received the flowers just a few minutes before she found out Lucy passed away.
Lucille ball was so lovely...rest in peace
These ladies have something no actors seem to have these day. Thats Class! Did you see Carol Burnett light up when Lucy complimented her imitations? Good souls.
I’ll take yesteryear over today any day!!!! This is why I love UA-cam so much!! Thank you!!! Thank you!!!
Absolutely. Im with you!
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Dear "rich santa" I agree with you, there are so many lovely shows and programmes of interest on UA-cam.
This is March 2020, and the Corona virus is scaring and depressing us all , so I dip into You Tube every day now.
Funny shows like Lucy's and Carol's are so entertaining. I hardly watch regular t.v. now, the current " comedies" rarely make me laugh....( but some do, now and then..).
Thank you, UA-cam , for keeping these gems available for us to enjoy 😊.
By the way, 2 Carol Burnett's shows to seek here : " Went With The Wind", and " The Walnuts": excellent !
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I love the rapport with Lucy and Carol
Ditto brother....id give a limb to go back
Absolutely!!!! Spot on my brother.
I grew up watching Dick Cavette, Carol Burnett and Lucille Ball. How wonderful it is in 2019, that I found this wonderful program with all 3 and Lucy Arnaz to boot.
@johnnytheprick Yes and Lucie Arnaz has given her approval to Nicole Kidman playing her mom in a new film. Lucie Arnaz looks wonderful in her recent interview. What a darling.
That's a difficult question...what time would you choose to go back to? ⏰It's hard to believe this interview is 50 yrs old. Mr Cavett is now 84 and Ms Burnett is now 88. RIP Lucy & Desi.🌹🌹❤❤
@johnnytheprick Well, so this interview was conducted the year you were born! Every decade has it's good parts and it's hard to imagine what it'll be like in179 yrs from now!😊🌎
@johnnytheprick If only we could time travel! 🌍😊
OMG! Around the @47:46 mark, Lucille pays Carol a terrific compliment and Carol's eyes tear-up ever so slightly. It's clear she must've idolized Lucille in the past and considered her a female comedienne icon, like a hero.
So sweet!
This is the best interview I've ever seen! Laughed until I cried, couldn't breathe. They were so good together, so natural and at ease. Really got "Alva" running in circles to keep up. So happy to watch this again.
I agree
Wow, the two powerhouse female tv icons on the same stage.......definitely priceless!
B0W W0W! That's Amazing Grace!!!
I wish Mary Tyler Moore would've been there with them as well.
Andy Yes, and Lucy was there, too!
Thank you You Tube, because you exist, we all get to enjoy the great people of yesterday, I Love Lucy.
Amen to that!
Yes!
Lucy is the best!!!
Yes the best love her ❤️
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Loved this interview!!! Such great insight shared. From Carol’s benefactor asking her to pay it back and pay it forward to two mothers sharing how they prioritize their families in alignment with their careers. Just some wonderful gems here.
This is one of the better Lucille Ball interviews. Every other time I’ve seen her on talk shows, she goes on and on without making a point but she’s usually forceful so people don’t interrupt. She seems relaxed and on point here.
Enjoyed every minute of this. The affection among the three ladies was wonderful to see. All of them were very open and their humility and sincerity shined through.
I'm trapped in the 1970s... and I love it. The 1970s are gone now, but I will always cherish the memories.
I hear ya, it also reminds me of my childhood. I LOVED talk shows(I was one of those kids) I would come home from school and watch Mike douglas, at night at 8"30 in NYC they'd show Merv griffin, I loved him too, Dick cavett is great, I liked him better in my twenties, his humor is sharp, he asks great questions, he actually listens and asks appropriate follow ups, it doesn't feel like Larry King-like he's reading a prepared list of questions off the telepromter
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I was definitely a talk show fanatic, as well. I would always watch Merv Griffin, Mike Douglas and even Charlie Rose at night. What I really miss about 1970s television is the Variety Shows. Sonny & Cher, Shields & Yarnell, and Tony Orlando & Dawn were my favorites. I'm 54 now, but I'll never forget the 1970s... those were the best years of my life.
I loved those shows too! I find them on odd cable channels. Some times I'll watch Sonny + Cher or Carol Burnet. I really loved the cheesiness of it all - Cher was SO glamorous! Lol. My Mom saw her at the theater + said she's a very short + tiny! I'm 5 10 + I always imagined she was my height but extremely slender. She carries herself so we'll.
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Cher is actually 5′ 9″ but standing next to Sonny, who was a mere 5′ 5″ she looked even taller. Oh well, nice chatting with ya. Long Live the Spirit of the '70s!
I’m stuck in the 70’s with you Alan. I love it.
To see both of these women sitting in the same room, Wow. These women were extremely talented & I personally think they were the top in their field. To see Lucy give Carol a compliment must have made Carol's life. Lucy, I heard, never gave too many compliments out because she herself was a perfectionist @ her craft. So that she recognized how talented Carol was and made that compliment public- really made this show extra special.
2 true icons there which can never be duplicated.. Carol has a great quick wit, that was great to watch her do that in front of Lucy Ball.
Saw Lucie Arnaz around 2010 sing at The Metropolitan Room on 22nd St. in Manhattan. It was this terrific cabaret venue that was affordable & intimate - a rarity in Chelsea. She was around 60 at the time and she didn’t look a day over 40. In my mind I thought she was there because of her name and not because she could sing. There are singers who have perfectly pleasant voices, but are forgettably indistinctive. Lucie was exceptional. She also stayed and chatted with the crowd afterward for some time and was genuinely warm & hilarious.
Wow, Lucille Ball came out like a queen. Gorgeous!
Well of course she would, ~ she is after all a Leo sun sign which is the sign of kings / royalty ..
@@QueenlySweetpea fitting Love this women wish she were still with us
This is the first time that I've realized what a powerful, self-assured- even dominating- presence Lucille B is (was). She is the exact opposite of her role in 'I Love Lucy', and a fine example for the current generation that not all women from this time fit a certain stereotype that seems to be rampant.
Can I go back to this time? Please? The talent, the manners, the humor…♥️♥️♥️
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Dick Cavett: When we come back ...
Lucille Ball: Where are we going? 😄
A commercial break, silly.😉
I love all three of these beautiful ladies! Lucille Ball was always hilarious, lovable and gorgeous. Carol is brilliant, witty, funny and the epitome of style. Lucy Arnaz has guts of steel and (inherited) perfect comic timing. She starred in Pippin, singing while doing dangerous acrobatics gracefully. Love them all!
Lucy had no illusions about the business. She had a real respect for Carol's work. She was tested in fire being married to Desi.
I love how calm they seem to be. Lucille Ball is a role model. 🙂 Eveyone seems a lot more genuine and relaxed.
Hands down, this is the best interview ever that Lucille gave.
It's 2018 and this lady still captivates me over most of the entertainers that have come along. You can't stop listening and looking at her.
Great to hear Lucy tell stories of her humble beginnings and hard knocks. My mother knew her in the 30s and said
she was a down to earth gal who was eager to "make it."
lucy has the BEST stories
Not a bad testimony. Humble, and driven.
The blue collar real was there. What you saw is what you got. Where have those people gone?
Oh, my -- I decided to re-watch the Lucie Arnaz part of the interview (starts around 12:36) and she was *incredible* ! SO quick-witted and self-assured. The first time I heard her say she was only 19 years old, I nearly fell outof my chair!
If u haven't already done so, you might be interested in the TCM podcast (on UA-cam) on Lucille Ball, especially the last 2, of which one is mainly with Luci Arnaz.
My mother brought us to see the fight between Ali and Frazier in 1971. It was the biggest thing that happened that year for us kids. We saw the Foreman fight too. No one will ever forget either fight or Ali's "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" chants. Those were the days.
You must have been spoiled😂. I’m jealous really, good for you.