not my chosen art, but that is some extremely impressive technique in my humble opinion. you can see the whip snap from the ground up as clear as day. any martial artist could learn from watching this gentleman move, that is as good of a base as you could ask for. much, much respect.
This clip of Shirai is great viewing. For over 40 years, in my quest of 'natural movement' I have been trying to commence the uke technique with the hip. More often than not I struggle and delay with a midway preparation. Shirai though seems to have mastered it without looking in the least bit sloppy. Hats off to him.
Yes, that is probably because he is creating floor pressure through his stance, using the floor as a kind of reaction plate, something to push against to generate power - "for each and every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction". It also allows his body to properly react to the impact generated upon striking an opponent, so his body does not give way and reabsorb energy he would rather transfer to his target. The final snap is focus, kime, total body power at the end of technique.
This clip was made on stage in Poland - Człuchów in 1993. Sensei Shirai was 56 years old but he show really extremly traditional shotokan karate technics. On this stage I founded my karate way and I'm still going follow my Master.
Different teachers, different techniques. Imagine how many different teachers in the last 100 hundred years. Imagine how techniques have changed. Martial arts for fighting in the street, fighting in competitions or simply fighting the years. Either way, fascinating stuff
Hmm his back leg is bent. very different from how i was taught under the boyers. but then again they teach koryakan a fusion of kyokushin and shotokan.
@MrWintersho About wing chun , i don t know, i see that soldiers use a systems based on different stances and different ideas.. in krav maga i don t see chisao and inside the MMA neither. i think that we haveto look in that direction to see what kind of tecnique works. because they try.Ithink that the error it s use gyaku and the oder tecnique in the classical form, they are just an ideas of the "perfect" hit, but ot functional for the real fight,they are usefull to learn some concept, like hip
*i don t know if i was able to explain. Maybe instead he could teach the function of charging and teach the real meaning of this techniques.. but nobody asked for that and they just said "os sensei!" I understand why nowdays a lot of people aere more oriented to muay thai or krav maga....
@MrWintersho And about heavy bags and makiwara.. in italy ,where shirai teached a lot, and i think not just there, they are few used. And makiwara in particular i think-and not just i- it s very dangerous for the spine. Not all that cames from tradition is absolutley good . The evolution works in training also..you spoken about didier lupo, i like him, why shirai; the biiig master from japan.... can t do a work like this with some black belts and not just the same things?
I was surprised to see his back leg remaining bent. I was taught to lock it out. He seems to do just fine without it though! Something to experiment with.
i m not talking just about kiling, i m talking about to be in the situation in which someone want to kill you, or, anyway, like it happens in a full contact match,someone that want hit you for ko. I think that only in that situation you can find your mushin. did you talk about ian aberteney? it s good, but too complex..he focus too much on a single opponent. didier is more essential i think, ad it s more near to my vision because i m practicing shotokan too.
@MrWintersho Maybe because they don t want to teach something really useful.. but just a "depurated" version of real karate. They know tha we are more affascinated by a lot of oss, and a fake martial atmosphere than by a real small tecnique...
Always found Shotokan very rigid and set.Studied shukokai which teaches the back leg bent thing and the moves tended to flow better and with a snap at the end.wado ryu is the same thing with more open handed techniques.always got entered with them wado at wolverhampton nationals.
not like american football at all - completely different activity than original football - don't know enough about cricket to comment... he was refering to was the distinction between original okinawan karate (note that much of the karate taught on okinawa today is actually japanese karate) Original Okinawan karate included significantly more bunkai and a whole world of tuite Karate was striped down when imported to japan this clip show a deep but single dimensional understanding of kihon
@MrWintersho mushin it s a empty world.. if you search it just repeating punch in the air in a gym. Maybe you can find mushin in an israeli soldier or in a security agent that applies his tecnique in the truth, not just using a pijama in a gym and saying oss..(i m a karateka too, i m joking a little but it s for explain better my point of view)
I can see that in the video the students are all black belts.. i don t understand the sense of teaching this kind of things again and again and not something more effective and realistic. punching the air is not a good way to learn how to punch in reality... Why thousands of pro boxers use things like heavy bags? In this way the body learn to block the hit at final and d never learn to "launch" the hit.. i don t if i eas able to explain.. For black belts i think that is a complete waste of time
not my chosen art, but that is some extremely impressive technique in my humble opinion. you can see the whip snap from the ground up as clear as day. any martial artist could learn from watching this gentleman move, that is as good of a base as you could ask for. much, much respect.
This clip of Shirai is great viewing. For over 40 years, in my quest of 'natural movement' I have been trying to commence the uke technique with the hip. More often than not I struggle and delay with a midway preparation. Shirai though seems to have mastered it without looking in the least bit sloppy. Hats off to him.
Yes, that is probably because he is creating floor pressure through his stance, using the floor as a kind of reaction plate, something to push against to generate power - "for each and every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction". It also allows his body to properly react to the impact generated upon striking an opponent, so his body does not give way and reabsorb energy he would rather transfer to his target. The final snap is focus, kime, total body power at the end of technique.
This clip was made on stage in Poland - Człuchów in 1993. Sensei Shirai was 56 years old but he show really extremly traditional shotokan karate technics. On this stage I founded my karate way and I'm still going follow my Master.
I love how heavy he moves and snaps each technique. It feels like he has weights on the ends of his limbs!
Different teachers, different techniques. Imagine how many different teachers in the last 100 hundred years. Imagine how techniques have changed.
Martial arts for fighting in the street, fighting in competitions or simply fighting the years.
Either way, fascinating stuff
1 of the very best Shotokan Masters !
nice.
note how he uses his back leg. No dragging of foot, no locking of knee. proper stance.
Shirai è un vero samurai. The best of the best
this is.. beautiful!
I dont speak a word of Japanese (yet) but I love what a presence this guy has.
Excellent🙏
Thank you zbirut. I didn't know the exact time of the clip and thereforeI didn't publish it!
Hmm his back leg is bent. very different from how i was taught under the boyers. but then again they teach koryakan a fusion of kyokushin and shotokan.
THIS IS THE WAY KARATE USED TO BE TAUGHT. BALANCED, FLUID, POWER, FOCUSED! ONEIGASHIMASU
This video was certainly recorded in poland around 1990-1992
@MrWintersho
About wing chun , i don t know, i see that soldiers use a systems based on different stances and different ideas.. in krav maga i don t see chisao and inside the MMA neither. i think that we haveto look in that direction to see what kind of tecnique works. because they try.Ithink that the error it s use gyaku and the oder tecnique in the classical form, they are just an ideas of the "perfect" hit, but ot functional for the real fight,they are usefull to learn some concept, like hip
@karatefella at high level there's not rotation, but only "vibrations" of the hips
Impressive that he could concentrate with all those cameras pointing at him :o)
Good movie though.
Shirai Sensei i love the way you teach demo pantsu wa mijikai sugiru! LOL!
*i don t know if i was able to explain.
Maybe instead he could teach the function of charging and teach the real meaning of this techniques..
but nobody asked for that and they just said "os sensei!"
I understand why nowdays a lot of people aere more oriented to muay thai or krav maga....
@MrWintersho
And about heavy bags and makiwara.. in italy ,where shirai teached a lot, and i think not just there, they are few used. And makiwara in particular i think-and not just i- it s very dangerous for the spine. Not all that cames from tradition is absolutley good . The evolution works in training also..you spoken about didier lupo, i like him, why shirai; the biiig master from japan.... can t do a work like this with some black belts and not just the same things?
¿En qué año fue tomada esta grabación? Sensei ya no era joven, y que potencia exhibía...
Sensei you have perfect posture like me! OSU!!!!!!
@soparamens its shotokon, no?
There isn't a huge "rotation" of the hips from Hanme to Shomen like Sensei Yahara does, is there ?
That's right, a bit like English cricket or American football...
I was surprised to see his back leg remaining bent. I was taught to lock it out. He seems to do just fine without it though!
Something to experiment with.
@alxide perchè lo shotokan non è una forma di karate?
i m not talking just about kiling, i m talking about to be in the situation in which someone want to kill you, or, anyway, like it happens in a full contact match,someone that want hit you for ko.
I think that only in that situation you can find your mushin. did you talk about ian aberteney? it s good, but too complex..he focus too much on a single opponent. didier is more essential i think, ad it s more near to my vision because i m practicing shotokan too.
@soparamens ohhh.
Oss sensey
SHARYYOOUUUUUUKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
6 dislikes? people av no idea lol
@MrWintersho
Maybe because they don t want to teach something really useful.. but just a "depurated" version of real karate.
They know tha we are more affascinated by a lot of oss, and a fake martial atmosphere than by a real small tecnique...
Always found Shotokan very rigid and set.Studied shukokai which teaches the back leg bent thing and the moves tended to flow better and with a snap at the end.wado ryu is the same thing with more open handed techniques.always got entered with them wado at wolverhampton nationals.
great master but this is not karate, this is shotokan.
not like american football at all - completely different activity than original football - don't know enough about cricket to comment...
he was refering to was the distinction between original okinawan karate (note that much of the karate taught on okinawa today is actually japanese karate)
Original Okinawan karate included significantly more bunkai and a whole world of tuite
Karate was striped down when imported to japan
this clip show a deep but single dimensional understanding of kihon
@MrWintersho
mushin it s a empty world.. if you search it just repeating punch in the air in a gym.
Maybe you can find mushin in an israeli soldier or in a security agent that applies his tecnique in the truth, not just using a pijama in a gym and saying oss..(i m a karateka too, i m joking a little but it s for explain better my point of view)
When you do not stretch your back leg in zenkutsu dachi, you lose energy.
I can see that in the video the students are all black belts.. i don t understand the sense of teaching this kind of things again and again and not something more effective and realistic. punching the air is not a good way to learn how to punch in reality...
Why thousands of pro boxers use things like heavy bags?
In this way the body learn to block the hit at final and d never learn to "launch" the hit.. i don t if i eas able to explain..
For black belts i think that is a complete waste of time
I don't see what is impressive ? A guy doing movement in the air ?