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am I not a poketuber anymore :(
Lmao
not according to the 34 rules
noooooooooo not like this
Lmao
Its okay Lucy, barely anyone is :D
Still kinda sad people call yo-Kai watch a “pokemon clone” just because of the similar mechanic of getting creature.
The ads are probably why that is....
I think game news compared yo-kai watch to Pokemon.....
Pokemon is not the first monster collecting/taming game. So they didn't invent the concept of capturing creatures. You can't copyright a concept.
Gym Leader Ed did a video where he took one of those "Top 10 Best and Worst Pokémon Clones" lists and rated each game on the list on how similar it actually was to Pokémon. Surprising no one, it turns out the list was full of crap. The only thing most of the games had in common with Pokémon was having some kind of creature companion, and in many of them that wasn't even the core mechanic of the game. The list even included Dragon Quest Monsters, which predates Pokemon by several years, and ZOIDS, which is based on a toy line from the mid-1980s and has _literally nothing_ in common with Pokémon at all.
@@arcticbanana66 👍
@@Dany-rx7rsin games before Pokemon they used more complicated methods such as befriending them in a multitude of ways Pokemon was the first monster catcher where you could capture them in a device Pokemon took a wildly unique approach to the concept
Pokemon doesn’t own monster capture but there are elements future series borrowed that are unique to Pokemon
I can’t believe Palworld plagiarized the chicken design from Earth.
just shameless really
İ know right
And clearly taking the actual, existing, real-life "king penguin" breed and running with the concept of a cartoon penguin that _looks_ like a king is blatant copyright infringement. 😉
And OMG, they stole the bird design and the wolf one too! They even stole a penguin! Such blatant disrespect for God's intellectual property on Earth.
they even stole the idea of using slavery from american history!... not cool palworld... get your own ideas.
The slowpoke tails always canonically grew back. Kurt says as much in the Johto games. It's kind of implied they're like certain species of salamander/lizards where they can detach it if something they don't want to gets ahold of them, which makes sense since they fish with their tails. Wouldn't want something actually dangerous dragging the slowpoke into the water with them.
The problem with Team Rocket is that they were chopping them in an unnatural way (which on its own could cause a lot of issues)and presumably they would have continued the second the tails grew back forcing the Slowpoke to go without regular food for much longer.
It also means the slowpoke can’t evolve until their tails grow back, which can take a while.
And also it's just unnecessary torture
On top of that, the salamander/lizards, absolutely do not just grow them back without issue, its unnecesary stress and on top of that does very much have limits
Also both Cyclizar and Sceptile naturally learn the move "Shed Tail" so it isn't even exclusive to Slowpokes
It took me a minute to realize that I was watching a sponsor. I was just sitting there like: "damn, she sure is rambling about Opera a lot... WAIT A MINU-"
Nah it was super obvious lol
"Pokemon with guns"
That one Mf in the safari zone episode: "Am I a joke to you?!"
Officer Jenny uses guns too
@@GojiraFan-in9ooand I think Team Rocket used guns too
@@MrT8599 yep
Remoraid is crying in a corner.
Fr they're fake Pokémon fans
0:21 *cries in digimon*
Same lol
Sitting here with Cyber Sleuth in hand completing the scan data of the Digimon...
*Becomes digital particles*
Poor Digimon forever forgotten thanks to the completely depressing sorry excuse for "games" and an untouched Anime series. Such potential...
@@LPcrazy_88dident they just come out with ANOTHER anime tho? Heck i watched Ghost Game a while back and thought that was pretty good.
Heck they even had a remake of the first series. I hated it, but still they been doing stuff. And as far as grindfest games go, i actully dont mind digimon games, honestly i prefer them atleast i have some cool and solid goals to work towards in a digimon, beefing up my team. The price for power is constent dedication
My reaction to Palworld is that one meme with the two cakes.
Baker: Aww, someone already made this kind of cake.
Audience: Holy sh*t, two cakes! (That's me, I'm the audience.)
yo kai watch still catching strays😭
It deserves it. That game is horrible to play and I'm amazed it scared Pokemon. The second game literally repeats the 1st game's story. Tutorials included
@@weebcraft6829 Yo-Kai Watch has its flaws, but it amazes me that your criticisms of it to show that it’s worse than pokemon are that “The second game repeats the 1st game’s story. Tutorials included” because like, IS THAT NOT WHAT POKEMON HAS BEEN DOING FOR NINE WHOLE GAMES?????? You literally just criticized Yo-Kai Watch for the very thing Pokemon is explicitly well known for doing.
At least the third and fourth Yo-Kai Watch games had the guts to change both the story and overhaul the battle system.
Like I said to begin with, Yo-Kai Watch has its flaws, I’ve got a lot of criticisms of it myself. But your criticisms just REEK of someone looking for any little reason to hate the series.
And just to clarify two things here. No, the second game did not recycle the story of the first. Its gameplay was incredibly similar, true. But its story was literally a time travel plot where Nate meets his younger grandpa. Its story is by no means great, and personally I wasn’t super intrigued by it. But it wasn’t recycled. And you claiming it was recycled really feels like you either didn’t play the game at all, only played the beginning, have forgotten how the game went, or are simply making things up.
Secondly, Pokemon was most definitely never “scared” of Yo-Kai Watch. Pokemon doesn’t even really have any reason to be scared of Palworld, besides maybe plagiarism. It’s the highest grossing franchise in the entire world. I dislike how you frame it as Pokemon having no reason to be scared of Yo-Kai Watch because you believe the series to be bad. Pokemon has no reason to be scared of Yo-Kai Watch-or any other monster catching game-not because of quality, but because of the mere fact that Pokemon is Pokemon. It wouldn’t matter if there were a hundred far better monster catching games than Pokemon, it wouldn’t lose them much profit. The idea that Pokemon was ever scared of Yo-Kai Watch was likely made up by people who had no idea how anything works. You’re “amazed it scared Pokemon”? That’s because it didn’t.
@@weebcraft6829 ??? the second game is pretty different like by a mile and the only thing it has in common with the first game, as far as i can remember, is a recap of the first game in the first twenty minutes to get players caught up of how we're here
while the gameplay not changing much between 1 and 2 isn't exactly the best the changes they did make made for some very much welcome qol that made the game fun to play
(also somewhat unrelated but yw3 was peak)
@@weebcraft6829 ah yes. I love it when the player goes _back in time_ in the first game. Such a good experience!
tbh everyone here hating yo-kai watch 4 is a banger and pokemon could really take notes from it
I can't believe we got a Palworld video before Evie's reaction to and predictions for Pokémon Legends Z-A. We are truly living in the darkest timeline
Sad times
It’s probably just because the Palworld hype has been going on for a while now, so she’s had a lot more time to make a video for it
@@themysticarcher3313 Has it? After the first like 2 weeks I haven't heard anything about it
@@Lucarioguild7 well mostly because its just early access and everyone is already done with the game.....
@@Lucarioguild7 It'll be back. 2 million for an alpha build? Can't wait for the full release.
The "collecting little guys" genre truly deserves more attention.
its called monster taming (which collecting is sub genre of MT)
@@BerryBandit I like "collecting little guys" better
@@lolitazombie I've noticed a bunch of folks sharing their thoughts on these kinds of games, so I reckon it'd be awesome to introduce a fresh tag for Monster Taming. This way, we can include games like Palworld, Nexomon, Coromon, and more. And hey, let's reserve the "creature collecting" tag for proper creature collectathons such as fishing sims and bug collecting games!
Well it doesn't because just like palworld it's called a pokemon clone when really it's an ark clone with cute monster's
I hate how some people are just 100% Team Palworld or 100% Team Pokemon. While I understand that we humans generally love being part of a group that we feel important to, it gets tiring seeing Pokemon or Palworld fans arguing with one another. Why can't we just enjoy the monster taming/collecting genre as a whole? I'm a huge Pokemon fan but I'm also a huge Digimon and now a Palworld fan. Having played each of the games, I can confidently say that each game offers a different vibe and enjoyment.
I have seen the sane palworld and pokemon fan actually co exists with eachother and actually make collab fan arts. Its the rabid fans that are unfortunately screaming at eachother that one or the other is yhe best
@@nicksanchez2041 my favorite is some romhacks incorporating PalWorld designs into the game. Some of the sprite work for those are *chef’s kiss*
I have a negative perception to palword since its one of those games people hate play (like hateful people play it) like hogwarts legacy, that and the BLATANT art theft.
that said I like when people call palworld out on its shit and even strive to improve it
I’m one of the oddballs that like both, very very much.🤷🏽♀️ And Monster Sanctuary!!
Even though MS is pretty freakin hard, and I’m stuck.😓
@iguessthisismyworkaccountl8437 I don't think all of the players are hateful players though. Especially those who don't use internet at all and just saw a game release that relates to something they grew up with and played it. I doubt playing a game is indicative of how someone is as a person. Yes a lot of people hate played hogwarts legacy because people were upset with its existence. However on the contrary some people who were upset about that game were harassing people to the point of death threats which fully contradicts the message and point about some other issues. Making those people just as bad as the person they're upset with.
Palworld as far as I can tell has no issue like that in terms of creator or such. The creator of palworld does seem.more comfortable with the block chain and crypto but also doesn't seem to be interested in NFT at the same time.
The game does have some obvious usage of designs but it also doesn't fall into plagiarism either as it is transformative enough to be counted as parody.
The creator of palworld does also admit somewhat to using other ideas that people like, and blending them together to create something fun that people can enjoy.
But yeah I do see where you come from for the negative front of palworld. Some of the players are truly awful but so are some from pokemon and some other games. Just depends on who you bump into.
I've said this since Palworld released, and I will continue saying it until the end of days:
Palworld isn't a Pokemon clone. Palworld is an Ark/Rust "clone" with a thin layer of Pokemon paint. Whenever people say "Palworld is just better Pokemon," then I just think "You just like games like Ark/Rust more than you like Pokemon."
Most of what I like about Palworld isn't stuff it does ""better"" than Pokemon. How are you going to make a manufactoring HQ base in mainline Pokemon games, which have no survival components and very meager resource gathering aspects at best? The stuff I like about Palworld makes me think "Oh, this would have been a cool feature in Ark" instead.
In fact, if you spin that argument on its head and compare features in Pokemon to the present features in Palworld, you can argue the same points but in Pokemon's favor:
• The type chart between the two games is like comparing building a brick house to building the same house but in a 1:100 scale out of legos. Palworld doesn't even have resistances, which in a proper competitive setting would mean the winner is just whoever brings the strongest offensive fighters. And this does mean Palworld's type chart is easier to remember, but that also helps in dragging the skill ceiling way down.
• Palworld doesn't have an equivalent to even a single Special stat. A majority of RPGs ever since the 90s have included at least that in the form of INT. This _also_ really simplifies the battle system, since you just bring big number fighter with big number move and win. The opponent brings their own fighter with a big number defense? Well, too bad because there's no way around it outside of power scaling them to hell.
• There are no held items. Yeah, saddles and some other craftable key items fill the part somewhat in buffing up Pals, but customization is otherwise extra limited and funneled into what the devs want you to make. Imagine the only held items in Pokemon being stuff like Thick Club and the Light Ball.
• There are no status moves. The combat sometimes feels like caveman early game Pokemon where you mash Tackle or some other equivalent and hope your damage ratios are better than your opponent's. Healing moves, support moves like Light Screen and Reflect, buffing moves that can make otherwise weaker Pokemon shine are all absent.
And I can go on and on about why Pokemon is "better" than Palworld. But my point is that Palworld isn't aiming to make a game with complex, competitive, and turn-based combat. Just like how Pokemon isn't trying to be a resource-focused survival game with base building and management. The Palworld-Pokemon comparisons beyond monster designs have always fallen flat to me exactly because of that. They have you train up the levels of multiple party members so you can boost their stats and become the strongest, I guess, which then makes them both Final Fantasy clones at that point.
I like Pokemon because it's Pokemon. I like the turn-based battles, the role-playing and multiplayer elements, and the variety of party members and composition.
I appreciate seeing monster catching games of differ genres (even if it's just Ark with Pokemon), though. There's a lot you can do with the concept.
The thing is, the people saying that Palworld is "better" are speaking from a single-player experience. They really don't give a care about the competitive scene, and that's all fine and good for them! Pokemon has this kind of rift between non-competitive players and competitive players. The non-competitive players feel like Pokémon is abandoning them, and Palworld made a game that is really fun for non-competitive people.
Hopefully, gamefreak realizes that they need the non-competitive scene as well. It seems like they're finally making adjustments and balances with the 2 dlc for SV.
The biggest issue I have, personally, as someone who enjoys both aspects is that they haven't really done much to replace the HM puzzles. I'm glad we don't have HMs anymore, don't get me wrong, but they allowed for a lot of optional puzzles that usually either lead to cool items or secret pokemon. The pokemon we used to get are now easily obtainable without the puzzles and the items are just thrown about on the ground without any care.
@@miimiiandco.8721if you haven't yet, I'd definitely recommend trying out Cassette Beasts!
Literally that last sentence honestly applies to FNaF World, since it also follows that gameplay. But nobody would ever draw a comparison between it and Pokemon. And that's exactly how I see Palworld.
People who force this narrative of 'Plaworld will overtake pokemon. Gamefreak is shaking in their boots' fundamentally dont understand either or both of the games (and rather just want to 'see big company fall').
okay but why this comment kinda eat tho
The irony of Evie talking about the questionable nature of AI after sponsoring it
Damn, she put a 2 minute section in the video, AND paid Opera GX for it? Good deal for them.
Here I was thinking she was _being sponsored_ by it.
AI is a very broad term, there is no damage in using it as a tool stuff like asking it to find answers on the internet like how she demonstrated in the video, the problem starts when people try to use it to create things out of stolen material, like AI Art that is trained with somebody else’s art without their consent.
@@geryeh5298ai is not a good way of finding answers, it will confidently lie to you and just spread misinformation extremely often
I fucking despise AI art, but an AI tool and AI generative model are two wildly different things. People who are generalising AI this hard will have a heart attack when they find out what pilots video gams enemies (its AI).
@@pokemonfanmario7694 AI tool like what opera using is similar to chatgpt, it also takes without giving sources, full of misinformation and did not ask for permission from the authors (look at the case of fanfictions being scrapped from Ao3)
I saw somebody comment on another PalWorld video (I think it was a Gym Leader Ed video) that said something along the lines of "PalWorld isn't really 'Pokemon with guns', it's more accurate to say it's 'ARK with Pokemon'."
7:15 - Just a little correction here, but the Shell Slime first appeared in Dragon Quest 3, which was released in 1988, and the Drakee first appeared in the original Dragon Quest, which was released in 1986.
As a fan of Monster Tamer games I’m begging people to broaden their horizons, there’s so much more to the subgenre then just Pokémon or Palworld, theres rpgs, there’s rogue likes, there’s Metroidvanias, all with monster buddies. There’s a whole ecosystem of them
I really wish the monster tamer metroidvanias specially got more love because everyone does rpgs instead
Do you have any recommendations? I'm always on a lookout for more games.
@@adela6715well if you want a monster metroidvania, i can recommend monster sanctuary. It has good fights, a nice metroidvania gamedesign and its quite cheap in Price
@@adela6715 my favourites at the moment are Cassette Beasts and Monster Sacantuary, Coromon is good if you want something closer to pokemon style, SMT five or Dragon Quest monsters 3 are good ones if you want to see how the grandparents of the genre do things.
Monster Rancher
I thought Yokai Watch was a pokemon clone.
Then I played the games and watched the anime. Trust me, it's amazing ❤️.
can confirm, cant wait for ghost craft
Can confirm 100%
Can confirm 99%
can confirm
I don't get how people can see that as a clone when the core design vastly different. I can tell Pokemon apart from yoke watch easily.
3:43- Thank you! Seriously, this was probably the most different of all the monster collection games, yet it got more undeserved backlash than Digimon back in the day. It's sad enough this mindset that only Pokemon is allowed to exists is still a thing when most cases like this last a couple of years at most, but I legit felt sorry for Yo-Kai Watch and its fanbase.
glad she’s defending yo-kai watch because as a fan of the anime and manga i am still sad the games never caught on in the west
It's not just Pokemon fan that don't like clones of their game I've seen with the like of Grand theft Auto fans and so on I think clones are fine some are even better than the originals in my opinion I found saints row 2 better than most Grand theft Auto games.
It's insane that back in 2015 to 2017 social media post and UA-cam videos were treating yo kai watch like it shot their dog over being a monster collecting game with basically no other similarties to pokemon
Yokai watch is an entire different game, but tried to grab the same public. You don't see people comparing Shin Megami Tensei or Persona with Pokémon (because SMT came 1st btw) and both games have more in common with Pokémon as an turn base RPG than any other monster collection game.
I still wish people gave yo-kai watch more love because it's a great game! Sure, it's another monster collector but it has a neat spin to it where your opponent chooses to join instead of you making it, which adds a bit more cuteness to catching if you ask me because an angsty gangsta lizard is asking to be fwends and it's just great! Plus I can't get enough of games referencing Japanese stuff!
One of my favorite things about the whole “Palworld being a Pokeclone” drama is that Nintendo explicitly does NOT care, and any official statements were just to get fans to shut up about it lol
Honestly! Its like the equivalent of someone blowing up a bounce house in their Orlando backyard and people expecting Disney to take action
it’s honestly crazy to me that game freak takes more action against fan content than stuff like this because if Palworld isn’t any concern then what’s the problem with fan games
Because fan games are using their IP and palworld isn't lol @@Void_Echoes
@@Void_Echoes Fan games would have to have completely unique graphics, unique setting and can't used Trade Marked words like Pokemon etc. By that point, it's no longer a Fan Game. So yeah, Palworld(heck even a blatant Pokemon clone) and Pokemon Fan Games are completely different legally speaking.
If Nintendo was gonna do anything about this legally. They would have.
I haven't played Palworld, but I have played Yo-Kai Watch, so I can say with honesty that while both of them have a monster catching theme, that's where their similarities end. The lore and gameplay between the universes could not be more different.
I do play palworld, I feel it is a different niche than pokemon. Any story it has you have to go out of your way to find even. It has base building stuff in it and I have mostly focused on that when playing. It feels, gameplay wise more similar to maybe fornight, but only from the feeling of base building and moving around, and by fornight I mean the original iteration of it, not the battle royal where you are fighting other people. I feel like the target audience of pokemon vs. palworld is different as well. I have bought every pokemon since the original red and blue, so I have played quite a bit of pokemon, and it is really just a different feel to it. I could not care less if there are similarities in design of the creatures in the game, companies will sort that kinda stuff out and file lawsuits if they want to, I don't see the need for fans to be up in arms about it.
Depresso is like a dark Espurr clone. When I first saw him, I instantly saw the resemblance.. And Espurr is my favorite Pokemon.. and Depresso is my favorite pal.
I've always wanted like a regional variant or another form of Espurr and Palworld was the one who delivered.
yeah deffo gives espurr vibes but the name alone puts it up like 3 tiers for me LOL
Espurr is also one of my favorites
Funny thing is, if you check the original names (Palworld was made in Japan) you'll find a single, interesting difference between Espurr and Depresso - his name is Ndakoala. Yes, our caffeine-dependent dark Pal is a koala.
I got one of those scammy fake-Pokemon ads as an ad for this video, oh the irony
y’know speaking of those is it just me or are they getting worse recently 😭
like I saw one using edited game awards footage to try and lie about getting game of the year lmao
Personally I think one of the reasons Palworld took off as well as it did was because people who played pokemon as a child when it started grew up and were looking for a more "adult" themed pokemon to play. Nintendo wasn't ever going to make a pokemon for adults so indie devs had to fill the gap in the market (as they often do)
Omg CandyEvie exists! She's still alive!
İ like that she is alive
Evie doodling jibanyan...my day has been made
Since you can catch humans in palworld, you can catch a merchant, put them in your base, and now you a got a store near you.
At 12:30, you’re actually not too far off.
The company I work at has been ahead of this whole AI stuff even before it blew up. An AI model is not quite at the ability yet to completely spit out a fresh new design, so if they are AI generated it was probably more the concept art / a doodle that was generated that an artist had to go and fine tune.
Thank you for being the one UA-cam I’ve seen discussing this, pointing out that AI right now isn’t some magic lamp of new Pokémon designs.
This is a perfect summary of my exact feeling on Palworld! It's hard to compare the two, other than the designs and other factors you mentioned, because Palword and Pokémon are almost completely separate styles of games. Great video!
Yo it's the Kyurem guy
@@NovaMaster375 bro get yo ass back to my community posts
“None of these clones had gone”
CandyEvie randomly forgetting that digimon evolve into giant killer robots, giant dinosaurs with literal cannons for arms and knights with swords and canons for arms.
22:45 This aspect matters a lot. Zomboid is another game that has recently gained a lot of popularity despite being in early access for almost a decade and still is
"The false accusations that Palworld used AI are scary and offputting"
> Proceeds to shill for a garbage AI-driven web browser
Palworld devs: (Watches the Safari Zone episode where everybody's got guns)
_"Say, this gives me an idea..."_
*And thus, Palworld was born*
gotta wonder who exactly is going to a browser because it has an ai assistant
Honestly, it's really disappointing that she did that ad sponsor. AI assistants do not comprehend sources, they really do skim and regurgitate information but slightly changed to make it appear comprehended, and she was misleading there. A lot of AI assistants actually help perpetuate misinformation and even create it, including putting out dangerous claims like on allergy safety, health, and people's rights.
We don't want AI to disappear from whence it came because it's scary or something, we want it to stop being given out to just anyone regardless of their intentions, and scraping the work of people in underappreciated industries to train it like artists and writers, yes including every time it's just casually used to generate memes. AI is important for good things like automating mass labour in analysis quantitative data in science and medical fields in order to free up people's work.
AI assistants for Internet queries are misuse and provide lower quality things than the work of the people writing the articles it scrapes from. We don't need Opera GX.
@@lilpetz500and also opera gx is a horrible browser. its chromium based meaning its at the whim of google. open sourced browsers like firefox are far better
@@lilpetz500also am I missing something or did she not disclose that she was sponsored by opera gx
I'm unsubbing for this, unfortunately. I know youtubers have to eat, but you can still select which sponsor to go for...
@@purplejellytotPJTlmao cringe as fuck
I actually really liked the yo-kai watch. I thought it was fun and unique. My biggest problem with it was that the catching system was kind of annoying
Same
its better than enslaving an animal
in yo kai watch you actually have to take a liking to you
@@littenflame85 They probably mean mechanically annoying.
Yeah, if it was a little more like Dragon Quest Monsters where there's more ways to make it consistent, or SMT/Monster Crown where you straight-up negotiate with them...
Because isn't it, like, you can only give them one food and then hope?
@@WhirlyBeepBoops there are ways to raise your chance
1. A Yo-Kai with the Popularity skill
2. Friendship chance wisps
3. Poking (Yo-Kai Watch 2 exclusive)
4. Yo-Kai Blaster (Yo-Kai Watch 3 exclusive)
"Scarlet and violet didnt have glitches this game breaking."
Falling through the map constantly
Hear me out! The chicken pal kinda looks just like the cucco from Legend of Zelda.
My biggest issues with the Switch Pokemon games is that they are marketed as complete, full price games. And they are graphic and performance nightmares.
Meanwhile Palworld is half the cost and you only have to buy one version and it's in early access! They are still fixing bugs and adding content. It's pretty malicious to compare their performance when they are so different.
I remember when temtem was unveiled and released, the actual gigantic amount of hate messages the main dev recieved, on top of the *actual, literal misinformation* about how it was copyright infringing that was being spread on every social media app was honestly fucked up. Some in the community have conveniently "forgotten" about this while insisting that this time arround its for sure for real a bad game and they're right, and that the other 7 times they harassed a creature collecting game dev it probably wasnt that bad. Its...very fucked.
Temtem really didnt deserve the harassment from fanatic fans honestly. Temtem could of co-exist with pokemon but apparently that was a big no no
@@nicksanchez2041 yyyyep, was vey sad too cuz spanish devs are like, rare to get into the mainstream and this just made another one want to give up because pokemon fans cant keep it in their pants. Palworld has a few legit reasons to be distrustful of them but not really that many more than temtem had in its day. Thats why this whole controversy, to me, is just old news.
Tbf from what I've heard the game was bad ignoring the hate. Though tbh I didn't even remember the game exist
Hooray for more "Collecting Little Guys" games!
Also, RIP Yokai Watch; gone but not forgotten
A new YW game is litterly releasing very soon globaly, new trailer this month, nowhere near gone.
I’m shocked you didn’t post anything about the Pokémon Legends Z-A announcement (tho to be fair we have little to no info, I just remember everyone was making a video about it)
What was she gonna say about it lmao
She posts like 5x a year lol
The first time I saw Palworld, I thought it was an ad for one of those bootleg Pokémon mobile games
Most people did
Thank you so much for bringing up that fricken wolf argument there’s literally so many wolves in games that are all so unique the people who defend this specific one are insane to me 😭
The wolf Palmon actually reminds me more of the wolf monster in Monster Rancher.....who I think is named Tiger.
Monster Rancher fan, hello!!!! You're right, it does look like the Tiger breed- but I feel like Tigers have more fur than the wolf Pal (i dont know the name) that it's definitely more distinct.
@@LarusFotia Tiger's have less fur (more head fur around face that is spiky, then smoother fur until bushy tail). But they also have horns and the blue color is on the upper half of body fading into white (iirc?) whereas Direhowl is more ringed in blackish blue/white. Like quite a few other designs, it just feels they they took two-three designs already made and fused them. I'm in a Pokemon ARPG, and we actually went through the PalDex to see which designs would be accepted as designs if type swapped (Depresso- Dark type Espurr) or fused (Dinossom- Goodra/Lilligant) pokemon. 😅 Some are legit, original designs. But most are just butchered pieces. Dinossom stood out to me personally because I love Goodra. Lamball felt kinda generic lamb- somewhere between a Wooloo and Wooly (Rune Factory).
It reminded me of the wolf from Reincarnated as a Slime
Pokémon Company knew about this game before it even came out. If there was any infringement they would’ve made sure Palworld would never release.
Palworld ain’t going down through litigation.
Well Pokemon didn't create the monster tamer genre that was in shin Megami Tensai
Well I wouldn't call shin megami tensai monster taming, it's more like demon bribing where you sweet talk them or give them items to bribe the demons to work for you.
@@TheChildOfDarkness a monster tamer game means where you capture or befriend monster or creatures that fight for or with you that you train
@@vanguardluard8334 it's still bribing not taming like if you ever read anything about demonology where you sell your soul to get demons to do your biding, it's similar to other demonic games like Onimusha for example where you got to work with your oni counterpart to work with you to fight enemies, even like persona where you bribe demons to work for you and use in battles to stop castles. So I wouldn't call shin megami tensai a monster taming game, more around demonology inspired game if you read everything about demonology.
@@TheChildOfDarkness but it's still under the monster tamer games
@@vanguardluard8334 Not really people just called it that way because that is all they know what to call it because they don't have any education about demonology unless they're demonolgists themselves or witches in real life and into that paranormal scene but if anything it's more under demonology occult genre of games, where you bribe demons to do your bidding where they take your spirit or health or money or something that is valuable to you to get them to work for you, like Bayonetta another example of a game where she is a witch, and she has demons working with her to fight against enemy it's not monster taming it's a whole different genre all together.
3:40 Off topic, but omg... YO-KAI Watch is honestly a really good series. Like seriously if any of Ya'll wanna play a non-pokemon monster catcher, play Yo-kai watch. It's well worth it.
You are actually the only person to bring up the UI looking like legends. Most people point out the ark menus lol
Does this mean friendship is over with Junichi Matuba?
perhaps :(
Pal world always felt more like a parody or satire of Pokémon when always made me treat similarities in creatures as a reference
I was playing BDSP and in the library the say they ate Pokemon in the past
0:10 YOKAI WATCH MENTIONED!!!!!!!!!
Yes!
Indeed
Yall remember when genshin copied botw? Good times...
Direhowl is one of those ones that... Like. I feel people are streching a bit much, it's a default wolf. it looks like a BOTW wolf, it looks like Tiger from Monster Rancher, It looks like Wolf link, it looks like it looks like every sentient anime wolf. It's just so generic that if you squint you can go "Yeah that's X"
Its like the default wolf assets from which all wolf designs spawn.
I might just be the wolf of all time fr
Gamefreak is given too much credit. The Palworld Sheep/Wooloo debate rests entirely on Wooloo walking on four legs.
That's because direhowl was actually changed from the trailer to release. The trailer direhowl is pretty sus ngl.
@@scrittle I saw Lamball as a mix of Wooloo (PKMN) and a Wooly (Rune Factory) personally 😅
As a person who likes ch design, I think the main problems are specifically the paws, the pose, the mane thingy, and maybe the way it's colored (socks, tail, and mane). Overall, I do like it, and to me, it has more husky vibes than a wolf, and I feel it looks different enough to be 'original' ig.
Let's not forget Palworld's very first announcement video (which was taken down almost immediately) straight up advertised it as Pokémon with guns and featured a Nidoqueen (or was it Nidoking?) getting gunned down. Like, an actual one, not even a lookalike lol
But yeah, it's been such a wild ride
I missed that trailer
No it didn't it never said it was "Pokemon with guns". That was a joke made by news sites. Also there's nothing in the game that is even close to a Nidoqueen/Nidoking in the game.
@@magnadramon0068Not in the games, obviously, but probably as trailer clickbait.
They knew what audience they were targeting - the franchise with decreasing quality as the series goes on.
@@magnadramon0068 no. you missed the trailer they're talking about, they had to take it down.
It's funny how when the game came out everyone was talking about it being the Pokemon Killer and it was SO MUCH BETTER and then like after 2 weeks the players dropped off significantly and now I havent even seen anyone talking about it in AGES besides this video lol
This is true. It's an alright game but the people who wanted it to "kill pokemon" were unhinged and really just seemed to want to take something away from other who enjoyed it. Like all palworld had to do was not rip off 3d models and they would have been good.
Because it's not a live service game. Do you not realize that games have an ending? People bought the game, they played it, and then they finished it. WOW! Yeah it's sure as fuck a bad game if people kept playing it for 2 weeks.
Fucking hell, use your god damn head and think.
The glitches is definitely just different user experience, scarlet and violet have plenty of pretty agregious bugs and visual issues, including geometry clipping, these issues have existed since launch.
Pocketpair on the other hand have been constantly working to fix up the game adding both cfritical fixes, QOL and other updates, now this sounds at first like the game released badly but.... it IS also an EA game unlike pokemon, they are fully open about this being an unifnished project which is still being worked on.
The EA process is something incredibly important for smaller studios who'd otherwise have to hire a bunch of playtesters or make their dev team playtest the game (this is usually not a great idea).
You forgot that you can enslave humans via catching them in pal spheres.
Good video! I do kinda wish you had gone into the bananas stuff with Pocket Pair's development of Palworld, like how they literally stumbled upon a random dude who worked at 7-11 and his hobby was making intricate gun reload animations on youtube, and hired him and that's why all the guns have incredibly accurate, detailed animations, especially the real guns like the musket. or how the CEO's plan was literally "keep working on the game until we are two weeks away from going bankrupt, then release it in early access". and that is literally what they did, "oh, we're about to completely run out of money? time to go on steam and xbox!" that's why it didn't have a release date until VERY close to the initial release.
tbf they just yoinked the chicken straight from harvest moon/story of seasons and i think thats wild
Evie: Shows the potential lawsuit pokemon
Also Evie: *Doesn't show the one that is literally shiny luxray*
oh oops forgot that one because it wasn't in the game lol
@CandyEvie that mega mewtwo looking Pal wasn't in the game either but you still showed it?
"Pokémon with Guns"
So Digimon?
There's one Pal you missed from the trailers for your tierlist because it was so "potential lawsuit tier" that it was removed from the game at launch, and that's Boltmane, I think its name was
7:04 You should play Dragon Quest if you like pokemon, they've been very similar, except that DQ has made the jump to 3D amazingly great. But the 8 bit sprite games are really good, specially the Game Boy Color ones, plus there's the monster collection spin-off. 100% recommended
The Banto Region.
Twinned with Skegness
Honestly, direhow looks less like a lycanroc than the Monster Rancher Creature known as Tiger...
I just found your channel again it's been 6 years since i found u last I love how much u and the channel has grown Thanks for the excel content.
I am HUGE Pokemon fan and also a HUGE Dragon Quest fan. Let me tell you - the designs of both games couldn't be more diffrent.
And come April, hell even late March, not a soul is talking about palworld anymore. Huh.
That’s what happens when you finish all the content in a game that is still in beta and are waiting for a significant update and/or official release…….
Depends on what news people/companies you have under your radar. I know game rant and games radar have had a few articles over the past few weeks before this video came out.
There's a YTer called GymLeaderEd who goes over monster taming games and palworld has been a reoccurring thing on his channel.
So yeah, it depends where you get your news/sources
No shit. Because games have endings to them. There's a ton of you people that can't figure that out.
Yo-Kai Watch is a genuinely great franchise and I'm really sad people dismiss it still. It's so fun to explore and find Yo-Kai, I have great memories of that game.
Yo-Kai Watch has guns.
4:36 This argument never made sense to me because Okami and Zelda Twilight Princess had no problem making unique looking wolves over a decade ago. Same thing with Azurobe. Pokemon has three other snakes (Arbok, Seviper and Sandaconda) and none of them look like Serperior the way Azurobe does.
10:21 Nothing new here. Their previous work, Craftopia, borrowed heavily from Zelda Breath of the Wild, with the UI, paraglider and enemy camp designs being almost identical.
You totally fall into the Map in Scarlet/Violet. Ivee done it in every area except the Blueberry academy
Since you're exploring "Pokeclones", I'd like to recommend Cassette Beasts. A fantastic game that released around the same time as Tears of the Kingdom and was sadly eclipsed by it.
Too bad game wasn't popular enough due to the art style
Jibanyan reference im happy and leaving after 2 minutes of watching the video
I'll be honest I don't think this will kill pokemon and don't think it will last past it's final update
Also I wouldn't be surprised if the suddenly disappear off the face of the planet before even the second update
Yo-kai watch three has a gun
There are definitely some Pals, that draw from Beta-Pokemon designs.
There was a generation 1 Jeti Pokemon, that never made it and looks almost exactly like a Pal.
And the cat sorceress looks like a more cat-like Delphox wearing Mismagius.
14:20 my childhood dogs name was balto who had passed last year, I was obsessed with the movie but couldn’t pronounce balto correctly. I called him banto and it was something my uncle would keep doing until he had passed too, it was so weird and nice and wholesome to remember this just from your funny bit but it made my day
As a pokemon fan and a digimon fan
Sure is funny/sad that digimon doesn't even come up as pokemon competition xD
Yeah it is 😅
As a Pokemon and Digimon fan, it is because they are aimed at different audiences. Pokemon's primary focus is the games, Digimon's primary focus is the V-pets being a Tamagotchi spin off EDIT: I say as someone with 7 digimon Vpets, 2 vital bracelets, and 5 tamagotchis
@@clarehidalgobecause the digimon games have been known to stumble and fall a lot.
@@EkoBahamut yeah and they change how they play...a lot
You're okay, Lucy. You can talk about whatever you want! You're CandyEvie! Not, "Poke-Evie!" LOL
Honestly sometimes I hear the pals cry out and my brain thinks "Spore???"
The problem with some of the Palworld designs are exactly as you say. They assembled many of them using literal parts from other Pokémon. Those parts were virtually unchanged in artstyle.
that can certainly be a personal problem. But legally it's unenforceable. You know disney would sue every IP featuring a character with white gloves if they could.
@@Highstar25 I never said anything about it being a legal problem, but anyone who makes art is going to think it's low effort and unoriginal to do things like that. Plenty of lazy, shameless things are perfectly legal to do. We can't tie our moral codes to laws alone.
As pointed out in the video, it doesn't take a lot of imagination to draw something original, even when your subject is something like a wolf/dog. It simply means palworld didn't have a proper character designer/artist.
@@Bargadiel with all the chibi styles and women drawing, I would counter that nothing is truly original now. It comes down to how much space there is between the eyes or how much your line lean in some areas. Of cause if they had take pokemon designs and just changed the color then yes it would be wrong, but they did not (maybe outside of gigantamax eevee)
@@Summer_and_Rain But monster catching does have more freedom of design than women or chibi. Though it isn't really a problem.
@@Bargadiel I mean designs are only increasing with time, it DO takes a lot of imagination to draw something original because EVERYTHING is kinda taken already, you can be original but if someone really want to stretch out there will be similarities in every new game this decade.
It´s virtually impossible to make something with 0% of similarities to something already created, it shouldn´t be a problem people have to point whenever it happens, only point it when it really starts to get WAY too similar, like some of the Pals there, and even there you can still pass them, like yeah Verdash is really similar to Cinderace to believe they didn´t thought of starting from there, but I´m glad it exists, it like, takes a lot of parts from Cinderace and then it gets it´s own personal twist, which honestly, it´s completely fine, I really feel Verdash is a successful design, even if it´s half Cinderace, the other half makes it cool enough to be okay (even if that other half is just a mix of many actual parts slapped together).
People really make it sound like, on this last example, Cinderace fans would look at Verdash and say "ewww plagiarism" when they probably would be like "yooooo it´s like Cinderace I love it".
Some similar designs aside, I don't get why people call this a Pokemon clone when it's far closer to a game like ARK than it is Pokemon. The fact is, Palworld and Pokemon can both stand on their own. And do their own thing. I was personally following the Palworld project for years before it's Early Access release and loved the idea of it, but even back then I could tell it wasn't just another Pokemon clone.
Having said that I do think it has provided some sort of wake up call to the Pokemon Company, who have since said in interviews that they are taking complaints of the previous few games a lot more seriously now. I like to think that Palworld made them realise that they can't ride the nostalgia train forever, and that they need to start creating games of better quality, because all it takes is for one monster catcher to come in, get the formula of originality/inspiration just right, and completely splinter the Pokemon community.
PS, and I mean this in the nicest way, I would take some time to research Opera GX. I don't blame you for taking the sponsor at all but there's some incredibly seedy stuff going on over there, and I personally along with many others would not feel comfortable taking their money.
Palworld felt like someone saw the multitude of terrible PETA pokemon games and was like, "What if this was also breath of the wild?"
Every time Pokemon VS Palword pops up, Shin Megami Tensei and Digimon are left in the dirt.
SMT was the original monster tamer game, yet it's ignored because it has an overall darker storyline and focuses on demons, religion, and gods. And Digimon fills in the whole monsters with guns bit; MetalGreymon literally has nuclear missiles firing from his chest, Gargomon has Miniguns for hands, and there's countlesss other examples.
Pokemon fans are growing up, but Nintendo wants Pokemon to stay a child, I think that's why Palworld is so popular.
Also, I want to say this. Like. Orzerk actually slaps. It's like, they looked at Garchomp and just went full opposite mode. Electric Orca Dragon instead of ground shark dragon? They basically stole a regional form of Garchomp out from under the pokemon company. 10/10 design, it's a great riff on the pokemon, looks amazing, I wanna see them fight.
Verdash is like, trying to do this again and failing hard. Like. Grass Cinderace could work, they just didn't really do enough to make it stand out.
I actually like Verdash’s design better than Cinderace; the tail really helps the design. I should mention that I literally could not care less about the plagiarism argument; if it didn’t violate copyright, then I don’t care.
Pokémon may not own the Catching Monster Genre, but boy do they try.
Do they?
To me it seems like they aren't trying.
They don't try but they have it in a death grip lol
Honestly the ones who seem to be trying are some hardcore Pokemon fans. Thankfully not all, but some that think Pokemon is all that should exist (cough* Harman, cough*)
@@PlansalagaDon I've noticed this too.
My advice for every person who brings up Direhowl vs Lycanroc is to google Tiger of the Wind and Monster Rancher in general. Because that makes three separate wolf monsters which share a nearly identical design. I can see it for quite a few, but Direhowl is definitely not "potential lawsuit".
One thing is true, the appetite for capturing creatures for all sorts of purposes is still the same as when Green and Red were released.
I forget the exact percentage required for something to be derivative enough to avoid copyright infringement, but I feel as if some of these designs intentionally aim for that number.
I will forever defend Yo-Kai Watch as not being a pokemon clone.
I did actually manage to fall into the void in Scarlet and Violet lol
Very fun look at Palworld from a Pokemon expert. Fun to see the perspective of someone who doesn't play hundreds of different games.
Direhowl and lycenroc share a design that has been so ubiquitous in games, manga, anime, etc, that it's not protectable by copyright. Palworld is without a doubt copying what they can from pokemon, but they are actually being really careful about it.
Palword is the grey area of inspiration and plagiarism
9:52 And with a raichu tail.
Yo-Kai Watch did dethrone Pokémon back in 2016 I think but only in Japan which actually sounds worse ngl
Yeah it did for like 2015/2016 but only in Japan. After that,Yo-Kai Watch 3 came out and sold less than 1 and 2. Then the remaster of the 1st game for Switch sold even less and fast forward to now where Level 5 said that there's no future plans for any new Yo-Kai Watch content
@@PelinalDidNothingWrong They remastered the first Yokai Watch on the Switch?
… Japan only?
@@viruschris3160This is not the japan only Yokai Watch entry. Ever heard of Yokai Watch 4? This one is also locked in Japan
@@viruschris3160 sadly yes and it hurts... WHY MUST WE BE ABANDONED
@@galathon I wish I knew man.
Everyone ripped off megaten lol, I followed the trail back from Palworld, to Pokémon, to dragon quest, to shin magami tensei.
I honestly had no idea how old the monster catching idea actually is. With that being said I’m now a huge fan of Dragon Quest and SMT… so thanks Pal World