After Love - How Love Begins - S1 E1 - The Black Love Doc After Show
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- In this episode of #BLAfterLove, the official aftershow of Black Love on OWN, series creators Codie and Tommy Oliver sit down with two couples from the season 4 premiere! Terrence & Joy Williams and Melanie & Anthony Clark continue the discussion on "how love starts” beginning with their very different journeys. Both couples share what their expectations were of finding love, knowing their soulmate, and Melanie tells us more about the infamous tattoo! Watch Black Love on OWN through September and October, Saturdays 9/8c.
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Can we just give a salute to all the different shades of black beauty in that room, the women & the men.😍🤗
Sheila Johnson yes!
Yasss!
StarZoom and souls like souls
Faaaaaacttss!!
Beautiful Black couples!
“I’m not average... I’m a child of the Most High God”
Boom!
Love that truth
Amen sister
Yesssssssss 🔥🔥🔥
You better know it!!!! 💫❤️
When he moved his wife's hair away from her face to see her better...ugh that is what I want, need and will receive!
Yes 🥰
Ikr
Yes! Me too!!
You'll get it!!
As long as its your real hair...ABSOLUTELY!!!
I can’t wait until society reach a point where people can call a person beautiful without mentioning their skin tone.
Yes! Oh my gosh. Yes. It's like we want to validate their beauty. I mean, it's fine with me unless it's an obsession.
@@maryonngrace5604 Definitely! It's an overkill. Whenever they compliment someone who is not dark skin they never mention their color. It's just weird to me.
Yeah. I think it's an American thing. I've lived in the States but I am French with African parents. This is a way African Americans are trying to "reverse" colorism but are simply perpetuating it unconsciously.
It's true that as a dark-skinned black person, it's mostly harder. In an effort to valorize dark skin we shouldn't devaluate other shades (I'm saying this to myself). It's so easy to feel like other shades have it better so they don't need love, compliments or support. That's toxic.
It’s an American thing. My first colorism experience was with a black guy from Louisiana! Never forget when he told us group of african girls that we are so dark skinned and that he was light skinned because his ancestors were not field slaves but house slaves😳😳I was like dang😳😳😳that’s a new level of colorism! when african American folks tell me “your skin is so beautiful “ I cringe cause I know it’s not genuine 🤢
@@shiks800 if we say it's beautiful, it's beautiful. No such thing as not being genuine because of the dynamics here in the states
The darker girl with the silver hoops is STUNNING!
Deborah Joy Winans!!! Gorgeous❤️
All the Winans...even the men are great Lookers...GORGEOUS familia!
Zsa Zsa Brunson they sure are!
@@msmiami212 IDK she was a Winans, TFS.
That’s a grown woman, no girl🤫
Married at 26, separated by 28, and divorced by 31. Haven't dated since then. Now 41 and hoping that forever love will find me soon. This show gives me so much hope.
I'm similar! Married at 24, divorced at 30. I'm almost 49 now! All the best to you!
LadySpinster I pray you find true love❤️
@@Maiden_Warrior_Crone thank you. I hope the same for you.
I hear you ladies I’m a little bit older 47 with two older girls college graduate and one in college I didn’t see me myself being divorced but God has better so being single at 47 is not easy BUT GOD!!! So I tell my girls I have being praying for there husbands because I don’t want them to every feel like divorce is the norm but at the Same time I know God has someone for each for us but the point for me being honest having patience is my struggle but if I can stay in a marriage for over 12 years I can wait for whoever God has for me!!
i married 2x before hitting 30. Separated at 40, divorced at 42....found my soulmate at 43. It will happen, just dont rush it. You will know when you find THE ONE. Your heart will tell you.
My mouth totally dropped when Anthony said the boys were not his....Jesus how could any human do a thing like that....so glad to see he healed from that....that had to be devastating.
That was his fault too bc he asked her w doubt, why not take a DNA with doubts in mind anyway. Yea it was wrong bc he gave up a great life & plus the kids left him after
Its sooo sad to hear. Mm mm traumatic
My heart sank! So heartbreaking!!
Chances are his ex wife was unsure and gave it to whomever accepted it first
Girl mine too.I was like DAAAAAYUUUM. This man gave up the career and life he wanted for kids that ain't his.
They need to turn this into a book ...like a black love “ chicken soup for the soul “
Wow thats a good one. I used to have all those books. Each new edition my godma would get for me. Get this idea to a publisher.
yess DO IT!
LOVE IT!
Memories
Agreed
When she said (I wanted to adore someone and I wanted someone to adore me) made me CRY!!. SHE WAS ON POINT!!
That’s what we all she aspire to have
Maaaaan I wonder what that even feels like
I'm sorry, but home gurl with the jean jacket has flawless skin, and is stunning. I like her and her husband's chemistry.
SHE IS SOOOOO FINE! ♥
Why be sorry?
No need to be sorry girl lol
She’s beautiful Deborah Joy Winans
Yes she does. It definitely runs in her family. Her grandmother Dolores(mother of 10) and her aunts(CeCe is one) all have that beautiful, flawless skin😍
I Love how Joy is so very vocal about her faith, and how she indicated becoming saved was her most important leap of faith, and Terrence was next. I also Love how she wanted the "one" for her to literally have the same Love for Christ that she has. It was beautiful how she explained that when she realized that Terrence had that same Love for the Lord, how she knew he would then have that same passion to Love her and want to take care of her, and how she could then follow him anywhere. Absolutely beautiful...I wished they were allowed to talk more about their courtship. When we do things according to the Lord's will, "It's Worth It, So Worth It."
Me too because it seemed like there were tense sort of awkward moments when she’d talk about it. I love that she was not ashamed to give God his glory.
Love it, but then again she is a winans :-)
Amen!!!
Joy is a Winans, maiden name. She comes from a strong christian family, thus her faith is strong as well. Bebe and Cece Winans, her aunt and uncle. Don’t settle, know who you are in Christ and He will honor your request for a Christian spouse.
I was like...that dark skin woman is beautiful..she kinda reminds me of Charity Greenleaf...quick google search..IT IS! She is STUNNING!
She really is stunning!
Yup. She's my girl crush. Love her size too.
Yea she a baddie dime piece
She is Charity Greenleaf
She is the one and she's stunning 😍😍
She said... He held space for her😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Tommy lovveees staring at his wife.... 😂😂😂 It’s so beautiful.
I was just about to say the same thing
Right! So sweet
He is the sweetest and funniest person yet didn't say a word! 😅😍😂
Yyyeeessss...... it's so beautiful!!!
I love how Terrence and Joy started off as best friends🥰🥰
“There is something about Black Love....”
All divorced people knew they made a mistake before they got married. That's fascinating to me
😂 I need to write this down lol
That’s because hindsight it 20/20!
As for me I knew as well but SERIOUSLY - speaking... when my brother came to get me and walk me down the isle .. I literally told him.. I wasn’t supposed to marry this man.... and my brother dig his hand in his pocket ... pulled out some candy and simply said... well, don’t marry him then... it was “sooo non chalant”... So I thought ... well maybe this is the cold 🥶 feet I’ve heard people talking about- and UNFORTUNATELY for me.. my brother wasn’t spiritually tapped in to hear my heart.. soul.. spirit etc... So even as I was crying walking to the altar- people thought I was crying because I was just aooo happy - I WAS CRYING 😢 because I didn’t want to make this commitment-
Valarie Cole wow sis I felt that 😢
@@ValarieCole I had a bestfriend from middle school and asked her to be in my wedding and she told me NO! She didn't like him at all and thought he wasn't good to me and for me. She knew I would be making the worst mistake that I would live to regret. Unfortunately she wasn't wrong. How did you get out?
Awww her hair was fine but I feel like he moved it because he couldn't see her face and he wanted to look at her face as she talked
🥰🥰 that was so cute and sweet ☺️
1. These couples are so beautiful! 2. Codie, I love that soul mate perspective. 3. definitely want to be adored like Melanie stated. 4. The fact that Anthony was able to recover from that kind of heartbreak is miraculous! 5. Tommie is always so chill. 😂
I loved Melanie and Anthony's story. I have a man like Anthony in my life...so I appreciate his honesty. Strong forthcoming men are a treasure. Melanie is lucky to have found a man like Anthony. This just proves if you're meant to be together..distance and life shouldn't stop you.
Anthony's story just solidified why I shouldn't settle until I find the person for me
I am addicted to this show. Black love tried and true!
Joy is soooooooooooooo beautiful ❤️ omg! Her dark skin is EVERY THING❤️❤️❤️
Preach Anthony!! It is not my husband's job to fulfill me and vice versa!!💙💙
Amen!!!! It is your job to make yourself happy 😃. Whatever makes you like yourself; Lose weight, get an education, better relationship with your family/kids.... etc. if you are happy 😊, you love/accept yourself... you won’t let someone mistreat /hurt you ...
@@saritamoorebansa4485 My relationship with the Lord keeps me happy!😀💕
Dude is on it
When he spoke about self fulfillment!! 💯🙌🏽 And Melanie speaking out about the tattoo situation and knowing he was the one for her.... give me chills.. Beautiful couples ❤️
I have never been in a relationship and I am 37. I believe I was meant to be single. Love to me seems hard and its nothing I am up for. However, I love, love. Its so cool to see others be in love. Especially black love.
Don’t give up on being open to receive the right love for you! I didnt find my wife until we were both 38, I hadn’t experienced a “real” relationship until her, didn’t live with anyone... didn’t have anything in each other’s names, none of that. So don’t let being 37 make you believe you were meant to be single... as long as you’re open to it... the universe WILL give it to you!
I'm 43 and never been in a relationship either. I have been told I am too picky and other things. But at this point in my life I am going to just live my life.
Jennifer, as long as you believe this love will be there but it will be evasive for you. If you say you can or can’t, you are right l.
Speak powerfully. The power of life and death is in the tongue. Those that love its fruit will eat it.
Oh my goodness. There are people like me out there. I'm 32. There are times where I want to have love like that then there are times when I revel in my singleness. So much so, I hate the idea of someone constantly in my face and space. What is wrong with me?🤔
I don't think you are meant to be single Jennifer. I think there's still more growing you have to do within. There's no time limit on finding love. Maybe your purpose is to find love within yourself. You have fulfill yourself first. I say to yourself often "I am worthy of the love i give to myself and the love i will receive from others" When you say that often and pray on it; you'll start to see the change. Your words are energy. Make sure you are speaking positive energy always. Your time will come 😊
Scandalous woman to do that, he gave up his dreams to be there for the kids and they weren't his...so sad.
Ikr?! That girl was wrong. He asked her was she out there and she lied. Smh! But I didn't hear if he still claims them or not.
@@PSALMSOFSONGS that's what I wonder too.
Right!!!😡😡😡
Agreed. I hate that happened to him. But, I question why wait 4 years to find out. Brothas if you question it AT ALL, test early. Keep your peace of mind.
god is gon get her for doing him wrong like that
Joy is gorgeous skin is smooth like a balm. I am gobsmacked.
All the love in that room! The way Codie's hubby moved her hair so he could see her 😍 he always looks at her like that! Oh to be adored like that!
I'm with Joy on that one! You gotta love the Lord!
Can you imagine how good it must feel to seat besides a good man and hear him talk about how much he loves you and knew he wanted you the whys aaah❤️...
God its me again
Whew, it takes a special kind of woman to be married to a man like Anthony. “Build A Chick” God Bless their union. ❤️❤️ Debra Joy Winans and Terrence are such a beautiful couple.
This was by far the BEST of all the Black Love series. Hands down. So much wisdom, love, and grace in each couple.
Love Anthony and Melanie's story..."I could feel her out there" wow! You can feel their passion and love for one another through the screen. We should all be so lucky to experience such a grand love.
can't stop thinking about those 2 boys. they lost their dad after 4 years that's trauma forever
😢So sad
He was never their dad!
This is why I hate dishonesty.
@@Allthings-food It doesn't matter he is not their father! Is he supposed to continue to raise children that is not his smh. It looks like he cut all ties, good for him.
Ms Goodi well, he said he lost his boys so something happened with that shady ex
"I adore him, and he adores me." Yes. That.
Charity lol Ms. Joy I felt that when you said: “I’m not average!”
She's the actress from Greenleaf aka Charity .She is so beautiful😍 💅🏾 with a infectious(sp) laugh
Before he even said it I knew he was gone find out those boys weren’t his.
I said the same thing
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😢
Me too
Me too. And the ex wife did too!
that was painful😭
Wow, beautiful... "I have to keep falling in love with the new person they evolve into". Well said.
I love Joy outlook on life and her spiritual journey to God.
The first episode made me side eye the hell out of Melanie and Anthony but this after show made me absolutely love them.
Girl So true!!😂😂
Sis!!! 😅😂🤞
I was thinking the same thing. I was like did they edit the show wrong? Lol. I get it much better here lol
Totally Agree...I like them better in this part.
Right ! Me too ! But their story seems so transparent and real
Enjoyed this! I like how Tommy Oliver is involved without saying much. Not always about words, presence is tremendous.
☺️☺️☺️
Deborah Joy is so gorgeous!
That girl is a Winans for sure and the skin 🔥
I need a skin routine vid from Joy. She always glowing.
She looks just like Cece for me. I watched Greenleaf and thought she reminded me of someone all through season 1!
Who is she?
Joy is so pretty.
@@kiyahb5106 charity Greenleaf from the Greenleaf show
Joy is so beautiful! God's glory is written all over her and beaming though the screen. You blessed!
I looooooove her!
Melanie and Anthony Clark are clearly Twin Flames... they are way beyond Soulmates. Beautiful ☺️
4:07 this makes me wonder if the guy from the plane was an angel.
mikeskybrowser Yeah, me too.
Probably. She had lost her dad I think. She needed guidance x
Yes..
Heal so you can attract and earn the love you deserve!!! Please 😩🥰❤️
Word to big bird
Yessss! This was what I did and now I have the Love of my life
18:24 What Im confused on is this: Melanie's father who partnered with and made children with a white woman (per Melanie's own account) then told his interracial daughter SHE needed a black man? (But HE didn't need a Black woman?) I'm confused. That felt more like Black men perpetuating the pressure for Black women to only partner with them, while Black men partner with (and make children with) whomever they please. That is a double standard if I ever did see one.
Reading in between the lines, it seems like Melaine's father eventually awaken to who he really was. Its beautiful that he had such a honest and spiritual relationship with his daughter to share a universal truth with her. People re-vibrate, grow, and change. Based on her brief story of what her father told her about needing a Black man he was able to see, re-vibrate, grow and change if only if it was a little bit.
I was so caught up in the love, beauty and soundness of what they were sharing there was no space for anything else.
I think he was able to advise his daughter based on his experience, which may not have been all positive. We all experience life; learn and grow from it.
Or he learned from his mistake
@ubiquity harsh reality. A black man with mixed kids told me this too.
Yes Anthony, be relationship ACTIVE!!! That is the key ingredient to long term love!
I love that he said he knew his first wife wasn’t the one before they even got married …YOU ALWAYS KNOW! Don’t ignore your truth.
I LOVE BLACK LOVE! It lets me know that there is still hope for me!!
I second tht notion...
Antony has a radio voice.
Joy and her aunt Cece have beautiful spirits!
Talk about trauma! The twins weren't his.😔 That hurt my feelings. So many women and men have experienced so much trauma and men often suffer in silence. I'm happy to see he can heal and move on to a healthy relationship. I don't always agree with the views and opinions of the couples but I appreciate the candor and richness of these conversations. I honestly wasn't expecting this level of openess and substance and I learned a lot. Thank you for this content! 🙂
Deborah winans!!
Terrence is gorgeous! Those freckles and that hair. Whoo, Baby!💖😍
This was perfect. These two couples together have all I desire in a mate and marriage: loves the Lord, willing to adapt and willing to work hard for love in the union ( or relationship active as Anthony said). So perfect. May God continue to bless them all
I need Charity skin routine so bad ?!
Not everyone believes in soul mates, so don't assume that. Some people believe in accepting responsibility and committing to it with all of their heart.
I do believe that there are very limited amount of people you can connect with on a very deep level. Not all of them you marry, lol, some become friends.
Right. I agree.
Amen
Melaine & Anthony are real, honest, and inspiring.
“Sharing gifts” I love that!
This season started off strong and continues to bring the honest, genuine stories, advice & expressions of love that we sooooo need right now. I’m 30 years old watching this & soaking it all in. Can’t wait for next episode!😊
Me & you both are soaking it all in!👍🙋😊 Great gems were dropped!👏💪
One love from Barbados!😎😎😎😎
MLisa90 35 next Tuesday ...and definitely working on myself and my manifestation
Simply Red Island Girl right back at you from Jamaica 🇯🇲☺️
I Loved these couples !!!! LOVE DEBORAH (JOY) WIlliams and her husband Terrance Williams' perspective here !!!!! #Lovely #Beautiful
I hope couple don't compare themselves to others. This was cool.
I love Melanie and Anthony I wanna see more of them so cuteeeee 🥰🥰🥰♥️♥️♥️🤞🏽
Blue jacket lady your so naturally stunning and beautiful!
Those melanin combining together, God bless you all.
I’m single enjoying the conversations and taking 📝 notes! Love this positivity 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💙
I like how u guys are building upon your brand. Nice nuance to an already 👍🏾 show! Keep the melanin poppin’ King 🤴🏾& Queen 👸🏾.
Thank you! I enjoyed this! I am the admin and creator of Db Group, “Avoiding Toxic Relationships!” 85K+ Members. It i s so nice to see people happily married & working together, moving in the same direction with selflessness for Love!
Listening to this makes my heart happy. That's all. 🥰 #blacklove Married 20+ and going strong. ❤️
Why I’m up here throwing up my imaginary glass 🍷cause I agree and have enjoyed the dialogue about our ❤️
#Great Content
Love this show so much! Amazing how starved of this kind of representation we are! 🙌🏾🙏🏾❤️
The Polarity is strong with the other couple it's so vibrant
THE DARK SKIN LADY IS ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS, HER SKIN, HAIR & MAKEUP IS FLAWLESS 10:22
Learn her name. Why describe her skin. Sheesh
Some people don’t mean any harm and as long as you are living people are going to use the dark skin terminology so you can get upset all you want but I’m sure Joy is used to it and handles it well. Others can learn to correct graciously.
The first episode had me looking at Anthony/Melanie a little 🙄he seem to have an "air"about him, she gave up so much to be with him including her children. Watching this I see now he had zero trust in love... she really had to prove her love for him...
Yup
She gave up her first two kids full time to their dad?
The guys voice in the blue shirt...omg is so manly, gruff and deep. 😩😩😍😍
This is sooo inspiring!
I clicked for "Charity Greenleaf" love me some Deborah Winans you are gorgeous 😍 🙌🏾
This show is so amazing and spiritual. I don’t think love will ever find me but for those who do, this show can prove to be pivotal.
This episode was so awesome! Thank you so much Black Love for your awesome content!❤
This series has awaken the possibility of this being an option for me. I WANT BLACK LOVE.I give love and kindness as natural reflexes. I deserve THIS. The series is everything for women and men to see. The imagery of people looking like you normalizing devotion, patience, respect, and genuine love for a mate despite what they been through needs to be shared. Whether it be from a friendship without any intentions, to getting through personal ruins in your life it great to see you can still have a nurture black love. Yessss!
Being self aware and learning from experiences in past relationships of what you want and what you don't want is important. But putting God first and allowing him to lead and guide would definitely have prevented the heartaches and unnecessary drama; which we experience when we do things on our own.
I love Melanie & Anthony voices......
The dark skin lady is beautiful and her skin is amazing!!
This was on my recommended. I clicked on it and I like what I see so far 😊 let's celebrate black love! Congrats to all the couples on finding love and happiness ✨
Yes it's the lady on Greenleaf. Myself and Nicole said she had an amazing figure and was so stylish. And she us so beautiful . Amazing programme there's nothing more beautiful than black love , even when your not in it. I still salute black love.
I love this dialogue. The couples asking the questions. The hosts mess up the flow & genuine vibes.
These couples are sooo beautiful and intelligent. Thank you for this episode Codie and Tommy.
Black Love is absolutely Beautiful!!! Great episode!!! Thank-you!!!
I LOVED this. Thank you so much for sharing this with us
I'm obsessed with Black Love and I thank God for blessing me with His best son.
So glad I saw this! I LOVE BLACK LOVE! ❤ This show is much needed! So many different perspectives!
I love when she said "This Is My Person!" I love how Anthony talks about the relationship!
Something about Black Love! ❤ IF YOU KNOW THAT I AM THE DAUGHTER OF THE KING! YESSSS! LOVE IT! ❤
Thank you guys so much for this....For the show and the after love..thank you for the participants honesty and vulnerability. I appreciate this so so much!!
This was so beautiful & encouraging. Thank you so much for it!
I missed you guys. i am so happy you are back(L). Thank you for this platform to promote blacklove. You guys give me hope, i'm 31 and single, i really pray that i will have this love one day.
Love from the Netherlands
Thank you so much for sharing this powerful and amazing conversation. I wish many people can see this. The two couple are just awesome and tks for their honesty. God bless you
Dang this after show idea is brilliant 👏👏🙏🏽🙌🏽 This is just so necessary for healing the black family, understanding what love looks like and it just feels so good to the soul to watch.
This is beautiful I needed to watch this. Love yourself , and being fulfilled.
This episode is it! I’m loving the intimate setting and the love experiences shared from both couples. Felt so authentic that I can sense the love. Some say that there’s no such thing as a soulmate, but what I got from this episode is that you know! Or at least know when someone is not the one lol.