What a load of bollox, get a recovery truck in there to move them in 15-30 minutes, job done. My god this is bloody stupid. And yes, I have worked as a recovery driver, on a scale of 1-10 this accident warrants a 1.5 at best.
Great video. Here in Australia the tow trucks usualy beat the emergency services to accidents. Those two vehicles would have been moved in less than five minutes.
@@robertmansfield2856 TBH I think one advantage we have is the size of our streets. British roads and city/suburban streets seem so narrow. Our tow trucks are tilt tray types so generally will chain the car up and drag them onto the back of the truck. . We also have trucks with push bars to move damaged/broken down cars off to the side on a freeway. The British way obviously works for British cities. Oh, and we're only perfect at MOST things! 🤣
Yeah just push them onto the side of the road out of the running traffic. No need for all those fires & police. That should have been a 10min job at most.
thats doesn't look bad at all, not compared to some we get around here....we call those fender benders....just drive them or push them out of the way !
Almost like its not something you can get out easily in London....The whole reason they were dragged to the side is to allow recovery to come and get them whilst opening one of the busiest roads in London
@@FreestyleCrazy12345 Exactly. The streets of London are a nightmare when it comes to traffic. Euston FS is located in one of the busiest roads in London and at times it's a giant car park.
Why aren't those two Metropolitan police offices, performing hand signals traffic control at this road traffic accident, not both wearing high visibility / reflective tabards?
Are traffic crashes common in London? Traffic doesn't seem to have the ability to actually do the speed limit due to congestion, and looking at Google Maps there only seem to be freeways on the perimeter of the city.
Most will be low speed bumps, minor dents and a bit of scratched paintwork; exchange insurance details and everyone carries on with their day. But there are sometimes more serious prangs, usually involving a pedalist verses a bus/car/lorry, usually caused by one or both parties being a moron!
perhaps you should contact the LFB and give them some expert advice. The vehicles needed to be removed and being that the wheels appeared to be jammed it wasn't easy and the road needed to be reopen and the police would then have arranged for tow trucks to attended and remove the vehicles.
@@robertmansfield2856 - yes maybe I should, I don't doubt their ability to deal with deal with fires but they took a long time dealing what appeared to be a minor collision. I have questions, why were 2 pumps sent to a minor traffic collision, in the real world they would only send 1 pump to a car fire? As for moving the vehicles. I am well aware of why they should be moved but a winch and 2 fire crews to move a single car was laughable. In the real world, a piece of equipment called rope is attached to the stranded vehicle and the other end is connected to the tow bar of a police 4 x 4 and dragged to the side of the road. Vehicle recovery isn't complicated but it is very dramatic when it occurs amongst the streets which are supposedly paved with gold.
@@studiosoftmorecambe6879 One pump one Fire Rescue Unit. There was obviously a reason for why the FB were called. The steering on both vehicles was knackered which made it difficult for them to be removed. It may have been some time before recovery were able to get to the scene and remove the vehicles.
@@robertmansfield2856 - watch the video again, the part where 2 crews are round the car shows the steering being turned. Not a steering problem but those stupid electronic handbrakes. Drag it with another vehicle - it isn't rocket science Yet more pandering to the hard of thinking. London, recovery, long time? - not if it was parked on double yellows it wouldn't.
@@studiosoftmorecambe6879 UK emergency service vehicles are just a bunch of standard faux-by-fours now, don't have the towing capacity for anything more than a wheelie bin. If someone tried to tow a car with locked wheels with one, it would be out of service for at least a week until they could inspect the chassis/body for distortion from the pull. I doubt either of these have an electronic handbrake, at least the Civic definitely doesn't, (after searching, the E90 generation of 3 series (the one crashed) doesn't either). The Civic's steering gets turned but the wheels are both locked so it doesn't really matter, being front wheel drive it could be stuck in gear from the impact. BMW's steering isn't turned, the front right isn't even attached after the crash, just wedged into the wheel arch, it shifts a bit when they pull at 4:48 and as it continues you will see the left wheel is still angled to the right slightly when the right is hard left (or rather hanging off while aimed left in the wheel arch). What might be the problem here is insurance. Insurance companies don't want recovery to damage the vehicles more than they were damaged in the incident. I don't believe insurance has to cover costs for delays to traffic, etc, so traffic being held up while their client's car(s) are sitting across the road doesn't matter to them. As this appears relatively minor, they probably have to operate under the assumption that both cars are fixable, and therefore have to pull the cars apart and move them to the side of the road without further damage, otherwise they're liable for the extra expense in repairing them, at least that's how it seems to work for recovery firms, so if the fire service are operating as such to clear a road for traffic, then the same could apply to them. As no one is in either car, there isn't the threat to life, etc that enable's them to cut the roof off/total the car, so they have to be pedantic about not adding additional damage, instead of just driving into the cars with their truck to push them off the road or something to clear the scene as fast as possible.
Wow a small crash like that? What are the LFB doing? Where I am in Australia we would get that moved much faster. They would be loaded onto a low loader. Once police are called recovery has 30mins to get there or they face penalties.
@@anakinskywalker4113 LFB don't organise recovery. That's down to the Police. They don't carry equipment to move cars hence they improvise. All they were doing was moving the cars to the side to allow traffic to flow
@@FreestyleCrazy12345 it’s very different in Victoria Australia where the first emergency service that arrives on scene in some case will automatically call for a tow truck. Fire Rescue Victoria will usually move the vehicles out of the traffic flow and make them safe ready for recovery. They can & do call recovery who have a set time to arrive if an emergency service has called them. Police don’t always attend RTCs unless there are injuries.
@@anakinskywalker4113 Thats the other way around for us in the UK. Fire won't attended unless there are injuries or a fuel spill. Police however always attend.
Minor shunt, ten minute cleanup by couple of breakdown trucks, or even just one truck. Unless the cars were full of explosives or illegal immigrants that whole scene was pathetic. Slow day for the fire brigade and the fifteen year old plastic coppers.
You were not there. Sadly due to some driver incompetence they couldnt understand a police road closure and diversion! Cars were willy nilly all over the place trying to pass it also caused a major backlog of traffic.
this was called in as an "RTC PERSONS TRAPPED" Which instantly gets an FRU. Unless someone called the fire brigade stating someone was trapped the likely hood of an FRU attending is next to none. Even then it could have been called in as a make safe which only gets one pump attendance
I'm sorry, but the fire brigade need some training on recovery. A couple of wheel skids would save the need for several firefighters to be pushing the cars. This video just looks like an accident waiting to happen!
Because the Fire Brigade is supposed to be recovery....this was literally done to open the road, not to be a permanent fix. Funnily enough they're an emergency service. Not recovery, so why would they carry pointless stuff to use every now and then.
@@EnjoyFirefighting 9 times out of 10 you just find a different route as you'd spend more time trying to move a car on an already tight road (Atleast in London)
@@FreestyleCrazy12345 was thinking about driveways, backyards etc, but then also maybe a tight street - if it's exactly the street you need to go to then a different route won't help much
@@robertmansfield2856 is that how they deal with a fuel spill in the UK? That's interesting and very different from what I'm used to ... with all the variety and range of how and what the fire departments do with a fuel spill here, hosing it down the road isn't any of the options here
Absolutely ridiculous that this fender bender needed 2 fire trucks sent out and the roads bought to a standstill , - drivers of those 2 cars hang your millennial heads in shame
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What a load of bollox, get a recovery truck in there to move them in 15-30 minutes, job done. My god this is bloody stupid.
And yes, I have worked as a recovery driver, on a scale of 1-10 this accident warrants a 1.5 at best.
They really made a meal out of that! Chaos caused by too many vehicles attending the scene!
Great video. Here in Australia the tow trucks usualy beat the emergency services to accidents. Those two vehicles would have been moved in less than five minutes.
In Queensland you get a ratio of two or three tow trucks to one car at crashes. But agree they don't fluff around like in this video.
I suppose the Australians are perfect at everything. The wheels on the cars were locked or jammed which made it difficult for them to be moved.
@@robertmansfield2856 TBH I think one advantage we have is the size of our streets. British roads and city/suburban streets seem so narrow. Our tow trucks are tilt tray types so generally will chain the car up and drag them onto the back of the truck. . We also have trucks with push bars to move damaged/broken down cars off to the side on a freeway. The British way obviously works for British cities. Oh, and we're only perfect at MOST things! 🤣
@@robertmansfield2856 thanks for the excuses Bob.
@@coover65 these ockers have 5 towies on each corner waiting for crashes to happen
Always the case. It's the UK so drama, slow, "could be serious". Should have got the cars moved in minutes
Yeah just push them onto the side of the road out of the running traffic. No need for all those fires & police. That should have been a 10min job at most.
They probably declared a ‘major incident’ I’m surprised HEMS wasn’t dispatched…..
@@anakinskywalker4113 So you appear to be an expert. Perhaps you should contact the LFB and given them some advice.
@@robertmansfield2856 perhaps you should respect other people's opinions.
@@anakinskywalker4113 at least its not like America where they send 6 fire engines for something really small
Let's stand around blocking traffic for a few hours with all our equipment.
thats doesn't look bad at all, not compared to some we get around here....we call those fender benders....just drive them or push them out of the way !
Looks like the handbrake locked on the BMW and the wheels/steering rack had gone on the Honda, so not driveable at all.
Is this a training film? "How not to do things!"
Two roll-back recovery trucks would have had them away in 5 minutes.
The tow trucks would take a while to attend and the fire brigade just moved the cars out of the way so the road could be reopened.
Almost like its not something you can get out easily in London....The whole reason they were dragged to the side is to allow recovery to come and get them whilst opening one of the busiest roads in London
@@FreestyleCrazy12345 Exactly. The streets of London are a nightmare when it comes to traffic. Euston FS is located in one of the busiest roads in London and at times it's a giant car park.
Why aren't those two Metropolitan police offices, performing hand signals traffic control at this road traffic accident, not both wearing high visibility / reflective tabards?
Are traffic crashes common in London? Traffic doesn't seem to have the ability to actually do the speed limit due to congestion, and looking at Google Maps there only seem to be freeways on the perimeter of the city.
Every single day all over the place
Most will be low speed bumps, minor dents and a bit of scratched paintwork; exchange insurance details and everyone carries on with their day. But there are sometimes more serious prangs, usually involving a pedalist verses a bus/car/lorry, usually caused by one or both parties being a moron!
always BMW drivers involved 😂 nice video mate!
Because it’s usually the Audis that cause the crash but don’t stop. 😉
It was like watching the Fire brigade equivalent of the keystone Cops. You will be sending breakdown trucks to put fires out next.
perhaps you should contact the LFB and give them some expert advice. The vehicles needed to be removed and being that the wheels appeared to be jammed it wasn't easy and the road needed to be reopen and the police would then have arranged for tow trucks to attended and remove the vehicles.
@@robertmansfield2856 - yes maybe I should, I don't doubt their ability to deal with deal with fires but they took a long time dealing what appeared to be a minor collision. I have questions, why were 2 pumps sent to a minor traffic collision, in the real world they would only send 1 pump to a car fire? As for moving the vehicles. I am well aware of why they should be moved but a winch and 2 fire crews to move a single car was laughable. In the real world, a piece of equipment called rope is attached to the stranded vehicle and the other end is connected to the tow bar of a police 4 x 4 and dragged to the side of the road. Vehicle recovery isn't complicated but it is very dramatic when it occurs amongst the streets which are supposedly paved with gold.
@@studiosoftmorecambe6879 One pump one Fire Rescue Unit. There was obviously a reason for why the FB were called. The steering on both vehicles was knackered which made it difficult for them to be removed. It may have been some time before recovery were able to get to the scene and remove the vehicles.
@@robertmansfield2856 - watch the video again, the part where 2 crews are round the car shows the steering being turned. Not a steering problem but those stupid electronic handbrakes. Drag it with another vehicle - it isn't rocket science Yet more pandering to the hard of thinking. London, recovery, long time? - not if it was parked on double yellows it wouldn't.
@@studiosoftmorecambe6879 UK emergency service vehicles are just a bunch of standard faux-by-fours now, don't have the towing capacity for anything more than a wheelie bin. If someone tried to tow a car with locked wheels with one, it would be out of service for at least a week until they could inspect the chassis/body for distortion from the pull.
I doubt either of these have an electronic handbrake, at least the Civic definitely doesn't, (after searching, the E90 generation of 3 series (the one crashed) doesn't either). The Civic's steering gets turned but the wheels are both locked so it doesn't really matter, being front wheel drive it could be stuck in gear from the impact. BMW's steering isn't turned, the front right isn't even attached after the crash, just wedged into the wheel arch, it shifts a bit when they pull at 4:48 and as it continues you will see the left wheel is still angled to the right slightly when the right is hard left (or rather hanging off while aimed left in the wheel arch).
What might be the problem here is insurance. Insurance companies don't want recovery to damage the vehicles more than they were damaged in the incident. I don't believe insurance has to cover costs for delays to traffic, etc, so traffic being held up while their client's car(s) are sitting across the road doesn't matter to them. As this appears relatively minor, they probably have to operate under the assumption that both cars are fixable, and therefore have to pull the cars apart and move them to the side of the road without further damage, otherwise they're liable for the extra expense in repairing them, at least that's how it seems to work for recovery firms, so if the fire service are operating as such to clear a road for traffic, then the same could apply to them. As no one is in either car, there isn't the threat to life, etc that enable's them to cut the roof off/total the car, so they have to be pedantic about not adding additional damage, instead of just driving into the cars with their truck to push them off the road or something to clear the scene as fast as possible.
I bet they would have been moved quicker than that had they been parked on double yellows.
Great to see such an old station still being used
Good use of the spades there 👏
Absolutely!
Wow a small crash like that? What are the LFB doing? Where I am in Australia we would get that moved much faster. They would be loaded onto a low loader. Once police are called recovery has 30mins to get there or they face penalties.
perhaps you should come over to the UK and show the LFB how its done.
@@robertmansfield2856 I’m sure they have there set procedures. They all do a great job. Its just where I am things are slightly different.
@@anakinskywalker4113 LFB don't organise recovery. That's down to the Police. They don't carry equipment to move cars hence they improvise. All they were doing was moving the cars to the side to allow traffic to flow
@@FreestyleCrazy12345 it’s very different in Victoria Australia where the first emergency service that arrives on scene in some case will automatically call for a tow truck. Fire Rescue Victoria will usually move the vehicles out of the traffic flow and make them safe ready for recovery. They can & do call recovery who have a set time to arrive if an emergency service has called them.
Police don’t always attend RTCs unless there are injuries.
@@anakinskywalker4113 Thats the other way around for us in the UK. Fire won't attended unless there are injuries or a fuel spill. Police however always attend.
Minor shunt, ten minute cleanup by couple of breakdown trucks, or even just one truck. Unless the cars were full of explosives or illegal immigrants that whole scene was pathetic. Slow day for the fire brigade and the fifteen year old plastic coppers.
What a ridiculous response to a simple bump!
That FRU needs a new blue light bar, only the bottom ones are working.
The new FRU has a much bigger and brighter lightbar 👍🏻
Great On-Scene/Incident video mate, liked and shared 🧑🏻👍🏻
Nice video, don't really see any traffic mayhem though
You were not there. Sadly due to some driver incompetence they couldnt understand a police road closure and diversion! Cars were willy nilly all over the place trying to pass it also caused a major backlog of traffic.
It always see bmw's drivers get into car crash
@@connorshannon1510 yes, because it’s never somebody driving a Honda, or a Toyota, or a Nissan getting into crashes…
Nissan and Toytoa drivers can be good drivers sometimes
LOVE LONDON FIRE TRUCKS.
Well at least the fire brigade didn't have far to travel. 🤣
A small crash like that? Yet in Hornchurch a car was flipped over and no FRU came only a police station van and paramedic car...
this was called in as an "RTC PERSONS TRAPPED" Which instantly gets an FRU. Unless someone called the fire brigade stating someone was trapped the likely hood of an FRU attending is next to none. Even then it could have been called in as a make safe which only gets one pump attendance
Great catch mate 👍 👏
I'm sorry, but the fire brigade need some training on recovery. A couple of wheel skids would save the need for several firefighters to be pushing the cars. This video just looks like an accident waiting to happen!
get in contact with the LFB and tell them ...
Because the Fire Brigade is supposed to be recovery....this was literally done to open the road, not to be a permanent fix. Funnily enough they're an emergency service. Not recovery, so why would they carry pointless stuff to use every now and then.
@@FreestyleCrazy12345 they can also be used to move cars when they otherwise block the path of a fire apparatus in tight places
@@EnjoyFirefighting 9 times out of 10 you just find a different route as you'd spend more time trying to move a car on an already tight road (Atleast in London)
@@FreestyleCrazy12345 was thinking about driveways, backyards etc, but then also maybe a tight street - if it's exactly the street you need to go to then a different route won't help much
BMW look fine the other car seen better days I hope everyone is ok
WTF.... minor prang by the looks of it. Surely 2 appliances on that was overkill.
It was all dependant on what callers reported to the fire brigade.
@@robertmansfield2856 so if i report a nuclear attack, what will the response be? 🤣🤣🤣
The whole of London is covered with CCTV.
isnt the a fuel spillage? That requires Fire services in UK.
@@donvanvliet9477 The Fire Brigade hose the road down.
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@@robertmansfield2856 is that how they deal with a fuel spill in the UK? That's interesting and very different from what I'm used to ... with all the variety and range of how and what the fire departments do with a fuel spill here, hosing it down the road isn't any of the options here
Nice footage!
When was this?
A quality BMW gets attacked by a trashy Japanese Honda. Poor BMW.
Much ado about nothing!!
Absolutely ridiculous that this fender bender needed 2 fire trucks sent out and the roads bought to a standstill , - drivers of those 2 cars hang your millennial heads in shame
Looks like a fuel spill, that needs Fire support in UK.
Very good content
mayhem...hmmmmm
nice video
Do the lfb really have does reflective jackets🤢…..can’t they get the full jacket one like Irish services
Does it really matter.😠
There fire gear has lots of dirt on it
05:22 Aww bless, the City boys are lost again ;)
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1:48 Fireman Hercules has lost his super strength💪🚫😂