@@Nobody-ll7bo I mean it wasn't ever meant for kids yet now it is falling to favor them. With ridiculous chat restrictions to protect children (who shouldn't even be playing). And becoming a simply more realistic fortnite. Why the fuck is Alucard shooting snoop dawg? Why cant a 40 year old man drop an 4 bomb on the m rated game he spent hundreds of dollars on because Timmy is present when he shouldn't be.
Tectone you remind me a lot of my dad telling me I should stop watching anime because cartoons are for children, when I was 13 this had some effect on me because I wanted to be seen as 'grown up.' When I actually grew up I understood that most people are morons and I didn't need to stop likeing something that I actually genuinely found fun just to earn the approval of people whose opinion I care about less than my cats. I'm 34 now and I still love anime, SpongeBob was an awesome show, pokemon will always be fun no matter how much Nintendo and gamefreak try to fuck it up Harry potter fanfiction is still great and yes I also love Genshin. Luckily I can still enjoy all those things because I have no obligation to look 'grown up' to anyone. Union level 34 in wuwa btw because I don't let petty twitter rivalry stop me from playing a good game.
He's not saying to stop watching things meant for kids. He's saying Genshin is a kid's game; as in lighthearted with no true "dark" contents. The lore may be dark, but they don't show it or most of the times quickly brush past it. And that's not a bad thing, as this is a game meant for everyone. He's just stating a point many refuses to acknowledge.
@@AIA222-yu5ml The thing is that it isn't "meant for kids" it's E for everyone. There's a difference but tec just wants to have a hot take and clearly wants to push peoples buttons for attention. People who think things are only "for adults" if they're super dark and edgy are the people who lack real maturity, they still have the attitude of a 16yo wanting to "be adult"
@@AIA222-yu5ml but you're agreeing with tectone in saying "it's a kids game" which is contradictory to "it's a game for everyone" A game made specifically for kids and a game made to appeal to people of all ages are two different things. Tec made points like "it has bright colors" meaning it's for kids, which is just a dumb and immature take.
@@NihongoWakannai Alright, if you want me to be Paimon and break my opinion down into little bits for you to understand, then "It's a game for everyone including kids, but because kids are included they don't don't SHOW dark themes which can be found deep within lore. And because kids are included, they give simple events with simple puzzles and bright colors which everyone can enjoy but it appeals to kids more. Me translating Baldemort's words doesn't automatically means I agree with him. HSR and Wuwa are rated for teenagers and above because they, specially Wuwa, talk about and (kinda) shows massacre, rituals murder etc. Kids also play those games. Genshin being called a "kid's game" isn't an insult.
it makes so much sense. think about it, when you see genshin impact ads on UA-cam, what do you see? some mini game of yelan, xianyun and wanderer racing to a mountain in liyue somewhere. 💀
@BasedMan88x88 well, considering the fact that I see you in every gacha creators comments, im going to assume that you’re just a troll account and you have nothing else better to do. if you’re serious.. then man we should schedule a time to speak because I want to help you and improve your critical thinking. goodnight tho be safe
Containing dark scenes doesn't take it out of children category. Remember when the witch temporarily killed Snow White and that time when an assassin is hired to kill Snow White? Remember when the witch was chased by the dwarfs armed with clubs and other weapons with an intent to kill her then the witch fell off the cliff and got crush by the boulder and the crows waited for her to die so they could eat her corpse? All that is showed in the movie, and that movie is made for kids.
So if a kid can watch it without getting night terrors it's a kid's movie? I don't understand your logic. What point are you trying to make exactly? As a kid I was watching R rated movies, are those "kids movies"? Genshin got a Teen rating, it's target audience is the young adult audience, primarily. Does that mean kids and families don't play it? No, but that doesn't change their target audience. Also in old kids content, a lot of that stuff is in there is there for the adults in the room. Also, many of your quotes pertain to films that are rated PG, that suggest parental guidance because quote "some material may not be suited for children" which in the video game space would equate to an E10+ rating, not an E rating.
@@zogwort1522 The rating boards are the institutions that state the games/movies target audience, through the content therein. If your game has a teen rating it is targeting a 13+ audience. If they weren't targeting that audience, they would have made the changes they needed to to get that lower rating. How you feel about it is irrelevant.
@@zogwort1522 So, girls of all ages are kids then? Dude, your arguments are full of fallacies. If they were making a game intended primarily for consumption by kids, they, like Minecraft's, or Pokemon's devs would have made the concessions they needed to, to get an E rating, the fact that they did not shows their intent. It is that simple. Now I'm sure they know, that they have families that play their games and yeah, they definitely do cater to that audience, and not just in Genshin, in Star Rail too. All of Hoyo's games have the silly family friendly mini games. Most Gacha's do, in fact.
Genshin is like a beach, kids can play along the beach, make sand castles and enjoy the shallow and surface level content, but older players are like surfers or drivers, enjoying things further from the beach, and can dive deeper into the story/plot.
Except if you are an adult who just strictly loves the combat and want more end game. More in depth mechanics. Better combat events. Better events in general. You are never getting it. Let's be real. Genshins combat system IS fun. But they will never do anything for people who love the combat. There are no enemies with attack patterns you need to dodge. Bring a shielder or healer and you can ignore 100% of damage. It's big health bar do big numbers in x amount of time. And that's all it will ever be. Genshin is kid coded. It is what it is. Nothing wrong with enjoying it as an adult either.
@@TheRedOGRE the game is made for everyone not just kids, mostly in the ages of 15. For genshin i expect good story based events with mini games here and there, because of its casual nature, does this make it a kids game? No because its for everyone. Stop gate-keeping and putting this narrative that its specifically made for children who can't even read that watches cocomelon.
Tecmonbald is right. A lot of classic children stories have dark lore/origins. Peter Pan, Hansel and Gretel, Alice in Wonderland, the boy who cried wolf, and the list goes on. Dark lore doesn't exclude something from being for children.
@@Bronan2920 so what you are saying is, these "fairy tales for kids" have dark origins? Almost like that is exactly what I said. Again, my only statement is that dark lore doesn't exclude something from being for children. I have no opinion on Genshin itself. Only that dark lore/origins is not the basis for something being made for adults.
@@ferdinandandi3542 judging by your lack of reading comprehension and strawman argument, I'd guess you yourself are a child. My comment is about dark lore/origins and it not being a viable basis for determining if something was made for adults or children. Not about which game is or isn't a child's game.
@@Marblemirrorman One comment and suddenly goes to 'Lack of Reading Comprehension'. Thats the trend now right?? I was replying to your 'Main Comment' in which you didnt exclude yourself to the argument on the video (ABOUT THE GAME). I didnt even read your reply to others "I have no Opinion on Genshin itself" cause youtube didnt show it in the comment page unless I go to the reply section. Not reading that cause youtube doesn't even shownit suddenly makes people have a 'Lack of Reading Comprehension' Not to mention, you taking out the main point of the video (THE GAME) and then saying people talking about THE GAME in the video have a lack of reading comprehension are weird. Like weird. I don't even know if you know what that means and how it used. Since I already saw the 'safe code' of not wanting to talk about the topic AT ALL, I would leave at this. Have a nice day. See you in another video in which you will exclude yourself from the topic too.
If twitter or social media didn't exist, you'll realize that both game is fun, have their own world to explore, you can just play both without hating the other But people trying to fight for the best game is crazy
Exactly right. Let people enjoy what they want. All this arguing is ridiculous when it’s two different games with different characters, different worlds, different styles, and different combat. One or the other other might not be everybody’s cup of tea and guess what, that’s okay. This is a problem with what tectone does, he’s probably just drama farming, but he breeds so much toxicity through his community in doing this that it does nothing but hurt everyone. I think a large part of why WW launch was disappointing is because of how much hype the CCs put around it. If they had just let it be its own thing instead of labeling it as a “Genshin killer” then the launch probably would have been at least a little better.
Gaslighting Translation: "The game you enjoy is lame, and so are you. Only big tough guys like WuthyWaves. There's DMC combat and stuff. For real adults! I still cry at night, for what Mihoyo did to me."
@@revengeofthesith. I guess the issue is, why point it out? Imagine you enjoying a Pixar movie, then some guy comes up and tells you, "Thats for kids...." I mean, ok? Whats your problem?
To put into perspective the type of lore that we could be in store for when it comes to WuWa; PGR has an entire 3 hour long main story quest that depicts a child trying to survive in a situation caused by a giant sentient blood ocean that's consuming people and replaying their dying moments as far as it can in order to attract their loved ones and eat them as well. It depicts an entire colony moving from place to place, just trying to find a safe area with the aid of the gray ravens and ends with very VERY expilict child death, s*icide, and extreme survivor's guilt. On top of that, trafficking comes up early in the story and the commandant that you play as is almost roped into it at the very start of the quest. Other things the game gets into, as time goes on, include more child death, the real conditions of a poor child estranged from their community because people think their mother is a whore, extreme mind-altering experiments on people barely over 18, child soldiers, systematic s*icide, g*nocide, and heavy drug usage just to name a few. With what was shown in act 5, I'm confident that WuWa will likely evolve into a storyline as dark or darker.
Fun thing is that most of these topics are also present in genshin, but they are mostly either hidden in written lore or pretty much just mentioned once and ignored later on. They want to have undergoing dark lore and story but are hiding it from casual players
Exactly. Even the recent Hanying chapter with Pulao. I thought it's gonna be the happy and jolly break from depression like the Pulao quest but NO. It's a black mirror episode in the end. Still not done with this current patch so I shall see. If the writers will write something similar to the likes of Surviving Lucem, Cinder Burns, Spiral of Chronos, Wintry Shackles, or Echo Aria to name a few. I'm not worried about WuWa's quality of story and lore moving forward. The delivery will only be the issue and they're able to show they could deliver in Act III-VI. What I like about their writing as well is that they don't try hard to be edgy. There are sad and light moments. All are warranted, even the deus ex machina tropes (flashbang Liv) are very well written. Same with the snowpierecer train trope like Akdilek with Cinder Burns and eternal engine, the world and people in it felt so alive. Their writing, at least in PGR, honestly reminds me of novels and books I've read and loved. From George Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm to Steinbeck.
Another thing is, even if the story is dark in Genshin. That doesn't exclude it from being a children's game. Adventure time, Batman Animated, and many others are geared towards kids. Yet they tend to have dark and/or emotional stories in them. Plus Movies like Shrek have adult jokes/themes as well
This. I think their idea is that Huanglong is the safest country in Sol 3 which explains the story being less dark than I originally anticipated and the next regions will include increasingly darker stories because they're not as safe and comfy as Huanglong.
The thing that really is wrong about your opinion is that you just FORCE IT towards your own audience and in your own eyes this just isn't wrong. All the while your audience just keeps adopting your own opinions and make it seem like its their own unique idea. Since your own audience is this big, of course most of them would just blindly listen to your opinions and go "yeah, he is so real for that" and then just go along with it all the way. You need to understand how big of an influence you are as a big content creator with so much followers and this video will just prove how much of your "followers" will again adopt this "opinion" of yours even though its clearly not exactly the right one.
Putting aside the hilarity of Tectone attempting to judge Genshin's darkness and maturity when he skips 90% of its content by refusing to read (literacy is for babies)... Dark things that happen in voiced quests: 1 - Stanley's friend suffers from guilt and PTSD because he watched his friend die in front of him and takes on his persona because he can't come to terms with Stanleys' death and believes he should have died instead. 2 - A Treasure Hoarder is sacrificed to the upside down statue 3 - Four of the five yaksha go insane and kill each other and themselves. Bosacious loses his mind and dies in a place like purgatory after everyone around him goes insane and dies 4 - We discover that hilichurls are innocent humans cursed to endless torment who cannot die and are so tortured by looking at their own faces in their monstrous form that they wear masks at all times to hide from the truth. Among those victims is a little boy who regains his sentience only to go insane when he disobeys his father's instruction and looks at his own face 5 - An innocent goddess with a soft heart is betrayed by her own followers and stabbed in the back as a mercy killing, accidentally killing all of her followers in the process. 6 -The 4 men whose visions were stolen whose minds are broken 7 - Kazuha's friend who braved the lightning's glow and died in front of Kazuha, scarring Kazuha 8 - The story of Tatarasuna, and how Dottore murdered an innocent man, ripped out his heart, and tricked Scaramouche into using it while lying and claiming that the one man who had accepted Scaramouche had betrayed and abandoned him 9 - Teppei, your kind and lovable friend and fanboy is tricked into aging to death without realizing it until it's too late 10 - Collei suffers from a degenerative disease that will slowly kill her, and to save her, her parents sent her off to a scientist as a child who performed horrible human experimentation on her that has left her with PTSD and a deep fear of being touched 11 - Another girl with the same infliction is far worse off and is desperate to attend an annual festival because she likely won't survive to see the next one - only to get that festival canceled, and then trapped in an endless timeloop that's slowly draining her life energy so she'll die in a matter of days instead of months 12- Innocent researchers trying to learn from Irminsul get driven insane by touching forbidden knowledge and are exiled to live as homeless beggars in the desert to hide the shame of the akademiya, only to later be experimented on to death, and their anguish is so terrible that you can hear their crying miles away every night 13 - Scaramouche attempts to erase himself from existence because of his guilt, and also he befriends a sickly boy whose parents died, and whom he comes home to find one day has died. 14 - Kaveh struggles with extreme depression and alcoholism because of his guilt and grief over his father's death, believing he is at fault for his father's death for asking him for something as a child 15 - There's a serial woman murderer in Fontaine and the ghosts of the murdered women lure him in to kill him out of revenge 16 - Navia's mentor and closest friend die in a natural disaster after the player gets to know them, and Navia blames herself. They come back just long enough to save her from death and say goodbye 17 - Furina suffers mental torture for 500 years 18 - Prejudiced people drove an innocent Melusine to her death for no reason, and then Neuvillette's only friend murdered the primary person responsible for this only to go to prison unjustly as a consequence 19 - Lynette is purchased by a man intent on doing untoward things to her while she is yet a child and is only saved by the Knave massacring the nobleman 20 - The Traveler is lead to believe there is a group of cannibals in the prison 21 - Wriothesley kills his parents 22 - The children of the hearth are forced to battle each other to the death and if they resist they are beaten and tortured into compliance. Those who are maimed in battle are given to Dottore to be experimented on, those who try to defect or quit are executed. The children become so full of despair that even the most bright and optimistic child eventually decides death is the only way out, Her ghost becomes trapped in the house for decades, unable to see the sun, trapped in a purgatory of her own trauma. Also a kid strangled all his family pets just to see what happened. Or is 'voiced quests' also just going way way out of your way to look for dark stuff?
There’s this “ cute kid “ we befriended in Inazuma . Who told us about his friend the bird god. We didn’t notice until later we are in a time loop . We discovered in the past the kid was used as human sacrifice to that god . Who got mad with the humans and destroy all the island with them .
This. Dude has such a shit take when he skipped Sumeru AQ and 90% of dialogue which had really dark themes. Also Tsurumi island or the freaking hospital in Sumeru desert where madmen Dottore experimented on people that had Eleazar
@@okwoco Yeah, the fact that he does none of the non-voiced quests and then skipped one of the main chapters of voiced content means he is in no position to judge its content. He also misses a lot of things because he's distracted by chat, so if it's at all subtle it zips by him.
also any game in general is viewed as "made for children" by the society. If you're an adult (18+) and you tell your co workers or college friends that you play videogames you're automatically labeled as a geek/immature. just play whatever game you enjoy because playing a certain game will not make you any more of a man or "children".
No one said you can't enjoy a kids game. He's saying you just accept that it's a kids game so next time they release an update that doesn't include end game or actual content, you won't get upset or disappointed cuz its a kids game
I think this generalization and stigma existed before COVID. During Covid everyone was looking for things to do and to entertain themselves so many turned to videogames (hence the posers, ignorant e-girls and whatnot that we have today). Right now, saying you play videogames isn't exactly a cause to be shunned in many places, they are more focused fighting over mobile games, console games and pc games. Which is equally ridiculous.
Just show silent hill, doom, GoW, and souls franchise to your co-worker, they'll change their mind. Geek ain't the same as children around these part bub 🤠
Maybe a few years ago, but this has changed. Even things like anime. I use to keep these hobbies to myself in high school and middle school for the same reasons, but now it feels like both anime and games have become more and more common that it’s normal to like these things as anything else. Maybe because I live in USA that’s how things are, but I can’t speak for other countries.
After the recent genshin livestream u can't even deny that Genshin itself doesnt treat their audience like kids cuz the VAs had a segement where they toyed with the viewers abt the primo count being raised in spiral abyss from 600 to ... 800 in the most condescending way possible.
Some of the points that you used against genshin can also be used against wuwa: There is no blood in wuwa . The puzzles are simpler than genshin's puzzles The mc beat the final enemy with power of friendship. Censorship ? Scar got censored yesterday. We can also use these points against hsr.
And of course, when he gets called out on his bs, he's super quick to discredit them by saying "yeah but you have the anti tectone buff" and just quickly skimmed through the twitt.
-tons of games can depict adult theme even without blood. -that goes the same with simple puzzles as well for people who only wants to focus on the story. -Having a good ending and using power of friendship doesnt mean its made for children. However, it is debatable. If Wuwa goes down their path later down the line. -that's because of PR since idiot's exist, lose audience = lose money. they're still a gacha game at the end of the day. WuWa at its current state, is catering on tryhards. which is, whether you deny it or not, are teenagers to young adults. and i agree, it still has some elements that are undeniably for kids. but that doesn't necessarily mean its for them. UA-cam originally was meant for everyone, until it wasnt because of COPPA and advertisers.
@@redcoldedlava9937 Bro you're the one who's try harding here to convince him that his point is wrong and your point is right . "Just because they have elements for kids doesn't mean its for kids " sure buddy try to convince yourself of that . You're acting exactly like the genshin players trying to convince themselves that it isn't for kids . I could just tell you the same argument " just because wuwa has mature elements doesn't mean it's meant for mature audience, so many cartoons have mature elements but they are Ultimately made for kids " same goes for wuwa .
@@ahmedmubarak751 You simply proved that wuthering waves can be for both kids and adults then. and you know thank you for correcting me. I was fighting for the wrong point. Still doesn't change that Genshin is still ultimately for kids now. Adults can only experience half the fun.
So much of these can be also be applied to other gacha games. - First of all, the art style is Irrelevant. I'm sure you cant think of yourselves plenty of games that is childish in artstyle yet not so much in story and gameplay. There were people that argued Wow was a kids game because of this. It's obvious that genshin is supposed to be a vibrant relaxing exploration game, same as the game it was inspired/copied from, Breath of the wild. - Paimon is SUPPOSED to be annoying. It's by design. She's literally Navi from LoZ. Her repeating everything is their way to do it. Can they be more creatively annoying? (much like how she annoys Itto) Yes but that's what they chose. -The blood argument can also be argued to Wuwa. No blood at all. In fact Genshin has more bloodesque thing going on (Arlechinno uses blood and fire bending as her attacks although the blood is quite masked by the fire) - Combat is simple. Why is that? You may have forgotten Genshin is VERY experimental when it came out. It's an openworld "Breath of the Wild" like for smartphones. That's very important. For Smartphones. Another thing is it's a game made by Hoyoverse. StarRail is also very simple for a turn based game. - again for the Mini-game events, it's a cozy relaxing game. Not supposed to be hardcore. You cannot change the foundation that the game is designed on just because you think it's not in your level. - for this waifu/husbando argument... you say that as if you have never played a gacha game before. It's in every gacha game. - Mc as a self insert is just plain stupid. There's so many games with self insert. This might blow your mind. Some games even go so far as make a character creators for their self insert characters, I know crazy. I even go far and to say that the MC is less of a self insert than the ones that doesn't show their MC or these character creation ones. - No swearing? You motherfudgin Forking crystal ball. Is Star Rail a kids game? - Some of you believed that there's endgame content? yeah you assumed that there will be because... what? nobody said there will be. Even Mihoyo themselves said it very early on that there never be. (Although, they've been adding harder content in events with almost no rewards just to satisfy those demands.) you just assumed from how the usual gacha games you encounter that there will be. -I cannot say anything about the new "endgame" because I have not tried and don't want to jump to conclusions. from the leaks before they announced it I too thought that it also will be very restrictive but since you can take characters from other players I'm not sure if it really is that restrictive. It will be hard... but isn't that what you want? I watch you for your other contents now just move on.
This is more facts than anything he spit so far. There are 2 reasons why Tectone making this drama 1) To farm money through it 2) To make people think Genshin story is bad and WuWa story is good after the intense amount of criticism people gave on WuWa story My guess is that he wants to make WuWa increase in its fanbase surpassing Genshin, and trying to do damage control on the bad writing for part 1 of WuWa.
@@FireBlueZ I did want to add calling him up for "recruiting" people into WuWa based on his recent twitter posts. But that's just the Content creator life. I can't blame him on that.
@@lsmsm9 I barely play genshin since the last year but if you're going with that I'm assuming you're trying to defend Wuwa. There's plenty of mints to be picked in that game too. So back at you "Mintpicker".
you must be tweakin, if you think they maxed out the saturation of the game, and made that so adults would play their game. Pretty colors is just what acttracts children the most
I think the design of everything is cute like those cute hilichurls, abyss mage, etc like those were mean for kids. Even the game said it is about hope and bright story or whatever(eventhough the LORES of the characters arent), art style, world building, colors are like those kids cartoon movie. Like everything in the game is very friendly to children .eventhough it is a 12+ game, i think kids below 10 can also play it and somewhat understand the story of genshin(if they know how to read)
I agree but it is a factor specially when coupled with other factors like the writing technique. For instance, Happy Tree Friends is bright and colorful but I need not say what it is about. Same with Bojack Horseman or Rick and Morty. It has to do with intention imo, Genshin I think was meant to be your typical epic adventure fantasy anime trope. Aside from the art direction aligning with the genre, we can also consider how it's written to end up in a conclusion that it's catered towards a younger audience. Paimon reiterating everything is for those who lack a bit of critical thinking or those who have short attention span . So Paimon is there to remind you what's happening. In some games like The Witcher 3 and WuWa, the inner monologue of Geralt and Rover is the paimon but they only often speak of what you think. Paimon most often than not just repeats things in case we don't get it. I think when we consider more viable indication of whether or not a game's narrative is aimed towards a particular demographic, like the writing style and the genre, we could conclude that Genshin is indeed more targeted towards the kids.
Valid, but that doesn't mean it's not. A game is a game, simple. But genshin's target audience is WAY different than say, elden ring's target audience. You can enjoy things even if you are not the main demographic, it just helps to know where you stand at times.
Hes really obsessed with convincing people genshin is a childrens game haha.. to me it feels like he desperately NEEDS to be right about this for some reason like hes trying to prove something. So he wont change his mind, not that it matters tho.
@hazamax2139 Sometimes, when any medium is made, it tends to have a set of demographic only to fire further than expected. I good example is a series Miraculous Ladybug. The target demographic was for kids, but it unexpectedly got a lot of adult fans as well, more than was expected.
@MrDakold I think everybody knows Genshin is for children, but nobody cares about that fact. The fact alone doesn't seem to be relevant to Genshin's own existence anyway. I mean, I'm 28, and I still love cartoons. Why do I care if it was made for children if I can enjoy it too?
@@warlis4767 Yeah yeah, I'm not saying otherwise or that it is bad when it happens but it doesn't change the fact that the target is still kids. Unless it ends up overwhelmingly unbalanced to that unintended audience, the decisions are gonna be made towards their target. Genshin is it's own example of this. As far as I know, people have been asking for more endgame since years ago, way before WuWa was a thing. But that people, for as vocal as they were, were not the main demographic. Their voices did not matter. That's what I mean with knowing where you stand. Not all feedback is valued with the same weight. If you want change and you are not the main target, you are probably not gonna get what you want.
Tectone knows what he is saying lol. He is trying to engage with as much bait as possible especially when he says "baby" game. Most people don't think baby game in this way Tectone is saying, they think of games for pre-schoolers. However there are people who do refer to children as babies, even if they aren't. The thing is you can tell what he is getting at when he talks about Pokemon. He is saying baby game figuratively, but he knows he will piss people off saying it in that way lol. HSR also fits to most things he is saying. Hoyo is in the market with Genshin and HSR in making games accessible and making them child friendly is a way to do this. Harry Potter a children's book series that is loved by many adults. Pokemon, a game series loved by many adults. Genshin and HSR fits this mold.
@@anakinsmith4770mam I wish pokemon had 3d world like wuwa a d genshin but the switch sucks and they won't upgrade the engine that's why Pokemon 3d games looks shit
The problem was not that you called Genshin a children game. But this is what you said: Honkai Impact 3rd Character Driven Narrative Genshin Impact You are a child Honkai: Star Rail The Story and Turn BASED Combat Wuthering Waves World Exploration Smooth and Skill Based Combat So basically other games you listed basic characteristics every game would have, but when it comes to Genshin it's summarized into a children game? It's like playing Pokemon and watching One Piece = you are a child, without even listing the reasons why people do that? This is 100% just for drama and nothing else.
Yea man, bro is just farming this whole Genshin stuff, He has said he hates the game, so it’s not really ideal to take his content about genshin seriously. Id rather hear someone’s thoughts on the game that actually plays it. Instead all you get when he brings up genshin is like when someone talks about a bad ex girlfriend/boyfriend…
Genshin does have dark lore and im not arguing but the direction hoyo is taking the game towards u cant tell me its not a kids game ill admit genshin was fun BEFORE i tried wuwa
@@ChrisUchiha7 i just said it was fun BEFORE i tried wuwa..now genshin seems like a fking joke..its so bad compared to wuwa if u just look at the basic QoL features lifes way easier on wuwa
I swear to god or the seven archons or whatever but Kuro Games showing screenshots of playing Genshin and Hoyoverse showing Screenshot playing Wuthering has to be their way to tell their own players to grow the fuck up and that they don't have any problems with each other so it's only the playerbases which is hilarious.
Almost every classic childrens story has a dark undertone. Even GOOD childrens movies back in the day. Remember Fox and fhe Hound? That shit had dark symmetry all over the place. Genshin feels to vibrant and "clean." Sterile, i guess the word is. They actually create some good basis for a dark backstory. But the devs never give them the push they need. So they just remain an ambiguous slogfest with Paimon yapping non fucking stop.
Tectone was so obsessed with explaining that Genshin has no blood that forgot that WuWa also has no blood. Plus, the coolest bossfight ended with some fucking cinnamonroll rip off.
Blood or not it's just an exemple, it's more serious than genshin as it is. It's just 1.0 too. Also why complaining about the boss fights when genshin fights are just lame as hell and too easy
I thought they can't add blood anyways cus of some law or something in china, a lot of games in china arent allowed to show blood or anything like that
@@mordy2085 What's so serious about a general letting an Amnesia guy he just met for 5 minutes leading his whole army? Compared to the sacrifice being made by a god for 500 years so later she can later be destroyed by guillotine and save the nation? You good bruh? Btw, there is blood in Genshin, did people really forgot Prelude Trail cutscene about adeptus killing each other? And you really want to say WuWa is more serious?
@@Frez_CH yes it's more serious, but the genshin doesn't show any of that , WuWa does show blood especially in danjin trailers. Also you're comparing 1.0 to 4.7 and before, calm your sht down boy. That's an unreasonable comparaison for now. Cringe shills.
What is even more funny, one of their argument is that "Genshin is a gacha game, a kid can't spend" or "There's drugs and kidnapping, it can't be a kit game" while most children have played Clash of Clan, Clash Royal and/or GTA has their 1st game on the phone or PS3 or 4.
"Kid can't spend" Spoiler allart ...kids here spends 50-100 bucks monthly like it nothing.. And not 1 or two.. At least 90% of them whoever plays games The amount of money stealing from parents are beyond anyone's understanding
The thing is the term "kids can't spend" kinda doesn't work when they do something called "ask their parents" a certain community is very fond of that and that is Roblox kids
i’ve never played or watched genshin, so i have no bias. wuthering waves is 100% made for 10-15 year olds. the jingle-beast questline is very similar to that darknight genshin questline shown in this video.
and that matters why one game is easy the other is supposed to be a difficult version also if you give free characters as an apology that don't count because your gonna have to keep doing it. you people don't even listen to yourself before you comment
Wuthering Waves is soo much better than Genshin Impact and here are the reasons: 1. Graphics - WW graphics are 10 times better than Potato Impact which is huge for a serious PC gamer like myself. 2. Combat System - WW combat system is also way better(heaps more fun imo) - obviously massive plus. 3. Artifacts - WW have root based artifacts meaning you can farm much as you want, unlike Genshit Impact's super limited resin plus 99% crap artifacts combo. - On top of that it's million times easier to get gg or perfect artifacts, so many people already have several perfect or near artifacts in WW. - So its day and night compared to game like Genshin.. 4. Wishes - WW wish system is super generous compared to Genshin, so many people got 5 stars within 2-3x 10 wishes. - WW developers already gave everyone one FREE 5 star hero, you know samething Genshin did for 3rd anniversary.. cough - WW doesn't have total scam weapon wish like Genshin.. you get the 5 star weapon you select within 80 pulls(usually much quicker). - Have fun getting Furina weapon by getting another two totally useless 5 star weapon first) Honestly way I see it Genshin died on the release day of WW, personally I've spent tons of $$$ in Genshin but I will NOT be spending another cent on that total rip-off game graphics made for old Nokia phones.
Wuthering Waves is soo much better than Genshin Impact and here are the reasons: 1. Graphics - WW graphics are 10 times better than Potato Impact which is huge for a serious PC gamer like myself. 2. Combat System - WW combat system is also way better(heaps more fun imo) - obviously massive plus. 3. Artifacts - WW have root based artifacts meaning you can farm much as you want, unlike Genshit Impact's super limited resin plus 99% crap artifacts combo. - On top of that it's million times easier to get gg or perfect artifacts, so many people already have several perfect or near artifacts in WW. - So its day and night compared to game like Genshin.. 4. Wishes - WW wish system is super generous compared to Genshin, so many people got 5 stars within 2-3x 10 wishes. - WW developers already gave everyone one FREE 5 star hero, you know samething Genshin did for 3rd anniversary.. cough - WW doesn't have total scam weapon wish like Genshin.. you get the 5 star weapon you select within 80 pulls(usually much quicker). - Have fun getting Furina weapon by getting another two totally useless 5 star weapon first) Honestly way I see it Genshin died on the release day of WW, personally I've spent tons of $$$ in Genshin but I will NOT be spending another cent on that total rip-off game graphics made for old Nokia phones.
6:01 tbf not even star rail has swearing. in fact they proactively censor boothill 6:57 i'm pretty sure only the chinese version of the game requires the censored versions. you can still have the uncensored version in global 7:23 the fundamental issue is that genshin caters to a casual audience, so ofc they're going to put the most time and effort into expanding what that casual audience enjoys. like it took them 4 years to add new endgame combat bc that wasn't a priority for them; polishing and expanding the core experience was + casual gameplay does not inherently mean "for kids". candy crush is super casual and yet the people that play it are mostly 30 y/o women. i think asmon actually has the most accurate take on this situation. games like genshin are for "girls, femboys, and pussies", all people who shy away from the grit, gore, and "git gud" nature of "adult" games 9:48 ... all traits that girls and emasculated men love. and i say this as someone who's probably closer to "femboy" than "man" 9:58 "who are looking for a more mature gaming experience" being the key detail here. adults are not a monolith, different people enjoy different experiences 13:25 i don't remember the last time i thought about teletubbies further than simply the fact that it exists, but unless i'm missing some sort of official lorebook they released, all of these claims sound like conspiracy theories/pure speculation. whereas for genshin, the events are canon and specifically mentioned in the game 14:01 bruh. you can't just say "i skip all side stories" and then act like those side stories don't exist by saying "genshin doesn't have any dark lore" 14:45 it's not part of the main story, but the fact remains that it's in the game for players to discover. and actually, i'm pretty sure the storyline in fontaine with vacher is part of the main story
Hmmm, I generally would agree with sentiment, I just feel the arguments were.... flat? Genshin is for kids, but comparing Genshin to wuwa is wrong for reasons you did. Wuwa is also for kids, sadly you cant see it yet, give it few months and you will see the same themes appear.
I would agree abt wuwa eventusllt after I got past act six of the story, shit gets dark pretty fast with an onscreen death and not like the magic "poof now fairy dust death" That being said Genshin isn't inheritantly a childish game, but rather attracts a toxic childish audience
@@deformedchad8616 oh yeah, I don't even mean the story. Because if wuwa had the same story as Genshin it might as well be called Genshin2, it's not. Wuwa is a different game, it has some same or similar systems, but having played it a bit, I feel that people that poke the hornet nest with comments like 'wuwa is genshin but better " only do it for drama.
@@Bezijenkins WuWa still targeting mature audience. Atleast they don't have bubble baby diapers. Even as a genshin player, it's the most cringe mechanic I have ever seen.
@@Shaphoenix Not really a Genshin issue, that's a China issue. If the game was made in Japan it probably would've been uncensored completely. Iirc China literally got pissed because of Venti.
@@zeyx3795 Who th cares? The global version is not under the China. They could able to less censor it if they wanted. That bubble diaper feels so awkward. Specially on male characters and small characters.
its kinda sad that genshin has great storys in world quests but they dont voice them so people just ignore, the narcissenkreuz quest could be a great quest to fill those dead patchs after the archon quest.
Just because you ignore them, doesn't mean everyone does. I actually enjoy the world quest more than the archon quest. But I also come from the era when RPG didn't have any voice at all.
The aranara quest would of been 100x less tedious to do if it was voice. That shit was way too fucking long, just paragraphs on parragraphs of VOICELESS DIALOG. I thought i was going to snap. We couldn't even skip that shit bro
this was so funny to watch. Lots of good points made honestly; hard to deny that Hoyo avoids putting more mature content at the forefront of their game. The one thing I'd probably disagree with is comparing teletubbies theories w/ the side quests in Genshin, as in regards to teletubbies, its all just speculation from people poking fun at the show, and for Genshin, its content that hoyo has actually put into the game. So saying A = B feels pretty disingenuous, and a bit dismissive of the point Minsleif was trying to make. That being said though, a LOT of kids childrens games or games primarily targeted towards a younger audience have a LOT of mature themes in the background, and sometimes in the fore-front of their story. A better conparison than Teletubbies here would probably be Pokemon, since you really don't have to look THAT deep into the games to find some messed up lore, such as criminal groups harvesting Pokemon organs to make food sold to old rich people, or humans marrying pokemon. Despite all of this though, almost no one would argue that Pokemon is NOT a children's game.
Bro, Seriously everything that comes from Wuthering Waves is just Tectone milking the drama here and there. To the point it feels like Tower of Fantasy release are far more successfull than Wuwa. Game have nothing to showcase except the drama. ( Been watching everything related to Wuwa)
-This comes from me who read the story of PGR, HI3rd, FGO, Counterside, Reverse1999, HSR, GENSHIN and WuWa- Let's all be real. You just tried so hard to make WuWa story looks goods by downplaying Genshin story as "baby game", and you're losing your argument but still forcing it to your community throat hoping they will spread it around. (And also, to farm money through this drama) Listen man, try as hard as you can, but WuWa story is not good written enough due to massive story revamp in short time and rushed launch. Only act 5-6 is bearable and can be said as "good". But don't forget in Act 6, Jiyan just casually let an amnesia guy lead the army he loved like a family, A GUY HE JUST MET LESS THAN 5 MIN. Now you wanna talk about Genshin censorship? Ever heard of CCP or game censorship in China? How many gacha games we play actually portray blood like nothing? And you're expecting that from a game that's made for everyone and casual gamers? Plus, what kind of "baby" do you expect to understand anything about Inazuma politics? Or even spend HOURS into 1 act of Sumeru arc? Most of them already died burned out without actually understand or paying attention to the story. And how do you even explain the strong sexual implication in Li Yue's 2nd Act, of Ying Er's heavy dialogue implication on mas*turbation during potion making? Tectone, you have no right to comment on Genshin story when most of the time you just watch summary on youtube without actually playing through the story yourself no matter what's your reason are. And btw, your LOOOOVE HSR right? Should I also consider it as "Baby game" since there are Pom Pom and also that Clockie mickey mouse? They act cutesier, meant like doing it for kids way more than Paimon ever did in the past 4 years. At the end, the conclusion is you can't tell the difference between "Casual game story" and "Children game story". Simple as that.
Yeah I mean its when someone cant handle a neutral fight, they have to imagine their opponent weaker than them. Because if he was right, this mean he would have been fighting against babies for the past 4 years and this is concerning
Knowing Mihoyo from their GGZ and early Honkai Impact days, Genshin was almost definitely not made for kids originally. But they probably had to tone things down due to their increasing popularity getting the attention of the CCP. I mean, look at the characters who got "new outfits" from censorship. You don't design characters like that if it's intended for kids, and even that is relatively tame compared to what they've done in the past. Hoyo likes making attractive women. If it were up to them, most of the characters would probably have half as much clothing as they currently do, lmfao. But once they were forced to tone it down anyway, and with such a big, casual audience, they probably just said "eff it" and rolled with it and decided to go full casual and let the money flow in while doing the bare minimum.
True but i could kindve understand his hate aswell. Even assuming you dont care anymore about end game content or more complex mechanics, all the non-responsiveness and bread crumbing from hoyo makes it hard not to feel atleast slightly resentful. Ask for custom loadouts for years and you get whatever their artifact selector was. Ask for events with more variety and you get minigames Ask for some adjustments to a severely underpowered character and you get radio silence lol. Even the 3 year anniversary event felt like a troll until i actually looked st the live stream💀 3 wishes for 3 years huh😂 i got great mileage out of my 3 debate clubs lmfao Im kindve bitter myself about being invested in building my characters as good as possible just to only have 36 stars on abyss and get 150 primos for it
@Tectone My take: I do NOT believe Genshin impact is a game specifically made for children. I think it was made to appeal to an extremely wide demographic of casuals, casuals who’ve might not of even played a video game before. That’s why the “combat” is so lobotomizingly simple. It was the perfect starter game for the gargantuan amount of people that started getting into anime during the pandemic lock down, the perfect gateway to get into gaming for the people who didn’t own a console or a pc since it was so easily accessible being free and on mobile. I also find it hard to imagine that a game intended for specifically children would implement such prominent jiggle physics which HSR doesn’t even have. The Genshin impact story on occasion does tackle darker themes as well, it isn’t always all sunshine and rainbows at all times, but I digress. Why make a gacha game specifically for children? The whole point is to get you to spend money on characters. Why make a gacha game specifically for an audience who don’t even have any money to whale on characters? While I do believe Genshin tries to appeal to children in a lot of aspects, I highly doubt children were the only audience hoyo was trying to appeal to. But at the end of the day this is just my take, so take it how you will.
@@Aefenim I would say WuWa is also tryna achieve a story driven game with how they animate every important named character more body movement than the occasional hand gestures or change in expression like them actually moving during ingame dialogue or outside of cutscenes as opposed to genshin or star rails well hand gestures or change in facial expression. Edit: Maybe 2.2 of HSR and Fontaine of Genshin added more expression but I haven't played it yet tbh.
@@Raxio_ional It's not when the game is too complicated for their underdeveloped minds. But I will have to admit that WW's battle system is not that complex...
Saw a 2000s Chinese children's book showing the classic story of Little Red Riding Hood, except in the end they cut open the big bad wolf, saved Little Red Riding Hood, stuff a bunch of rocks in the the wolf's stomach, then sewn it back up. Wolf later drowned because he fell into a lake and was too heavy to stay afloat due to all the rocks. Of course the book did not depict any of the gruesome scenes and only said so in text, but on the last page the wolf was depicted to be drowning in a lake as the other characters point at him from shore and laughs. Pretty dark stuff.
A lot of children's shows/movies usually include jokes/easter eggs that only adults would catch onto. Just cause it has those things doesn't change the target audience for adults. It about how it presents itself and Genshin presents itself for children.
Archon quest wasn't easter egg though. And many story is just straightforward with strong sexual implication and voice directing such as Ying Er potion making in 2nd act of Genshin or Focalor being destroyed under guilitone as sacrifice. And the way Signora got slain, disintegrated without ashes remain by Raiden is still just as tragically impactful even without blood. Oh ya, also the cutscene of Adepti slaughtering each other with actual blood present. At that point, there is just no way you can ever call it a kid game ever again.
@@FireBlueZ And there is no way you can ever call it a game for adults either. You yourself described the Ying Er scene as an implication. If it were for adults it would be more explicit. Focalor's and Signora's death is not this brutal moment like you hype it up to be. Signora turns into flame embers after a flash of lightning engulfs her, all without her screaming in pain. The camera even cuts away from Focalor when the sword drops onto her so you dont see anything. As for that adepti scene, I have no recollection of it as its been a year or so since I've last played but lets say it is how you describe it. That single scene is not representative of how the game is in its entirety. If the majority of Genshin is like how you describe this scene of characters brutally slaughtering each other then I would agree but its not, not on a surface level that is which was my point. At best you could say the game is for teenagers.
@@ieatice I think Ying Er scene is already explicit enough. You should rewatch it to understand what I mean. But ya you're not wrong, this game isn't made for adult either, it's made for everyone.. That is over 16 years old.
I dont understand why it matters which game is more "mature." I feel like the only reason people even point out a game being "childish" is 100% to belittle the people who play it. 90% of the time you talk about Genshin, it just sounds like your bitter about the game.
It goes both ways, like paimon tf is that garbage calamity. The story is fine, the combat is easy so obv a kid can win, it's just a casual game. But the problem is that these genshin shills thinks WuWa is the game for kids. Events, how devs treats their players with garbage rewards yet players don't care, why ? Cuz their life depends on genshin and therefore will attack anyone who goes against someone speaking the truth.
@@mordy2085 lower viewers on twitch doesn’t matter when people are still playing the game. HSR isn’t too high on twitch either and yet look where it’s at.
I’m just waiting for you to take back what you said about WW music being better than Genshin’s…maybe then I can take you more seriously about your Genshin opinions 😆
Tech. I think you fell off the cliff with this one. I can accept that it's for teens, but kids is a far stretch. Include an age group. My 6-year-old doesn't understand it enough to play. You could say that most Genshin players act like kids.
Japanese anime is for teens+ and it contains sexual themes, gore, violence and very dark themes sometimes. Genshin Impact is a child-friendly game intended to hook kids on the gacha system and get them to transition to other games and spend more. Let's be honest,
Sure Genshin is more aimed towards younger audiences, but the combat is pretty much the same. If people think WuWa’s combat is hard then they have skill issues
Nah nothing will ever be as effortless and neuvilette, Zhong li, and hyperbloom. If you think that those 2 are comparable and as interactive as a game with parrying, proper dodging with bullet time, I want what you’re smoking.
@@GameSteph I mainly play MonHun and souls games so these games are easy imo, haven’t had anything that posed a challenge yet in WuWa but we’ll see if that changes in future updates. Also I don’t play Neuvillette or Zhongli since I find them boring to play I mainly use Hu Tao and Wanderer, sometimes Aloy for fun. But I don’t think it really matters it’s just my thoughts and I’m still gonna be playing both games anyways
This kid keeps proving the people right. If he claims it is a game for children, he has never paid attention to the lore. Oh wait right, the mods play it for him.
@@stryfer1989 Thats true, very ironic xD He is basically showing how he has a childish mindset, which is why he is unable to grasp the deeper story or dark themes. Guess he doesn't get what the word ''reach'' means. The game can avoid obvious things that would increase its rating thus cutting exponentially their player base and income. It is a smart move from them to do this, this way the game is accessible for way more ages, while still delivering on the mature themes in a ''subtle'' way.
Ya know. After seeing this video. It really sums up the whole thing about Genshin. It's really, in fact, a kids game. As with previous comments and debates, I have. Yes, the lore will have some dark elements, such as the ANIME (which BTW will cover the dark themes of genshin upfront. Which is what genshin could have been in that structure) And the short clips we get on UA-cam, which do, in fact, show more mature themes (Blood. Strong language, etc) In comparison to the game. So yes, the game is very kid friendly, but the anime and clips are definitely not kid friendly.
Facts (1) Tectone is the linchpin of gacha drama (2) This video is targeted on Genshin fan-base to aggro views (3) Tweet is a valid opinion of the game but w/ the intent to "emphasize" people playing it are kids (4) The comment is valid and sound at least to people w/ the capacity to think NORMALLY (5) I agree w/ most of your opinion regardless of your person but let's be real, you need THERAPY. Finding entertainment in chaos is NOT NORMAL.
This is a very true take honestly. I will add, however, that i have a very mentally and physically draining job, and i can very much appreciate having a cozy, adhd-pilled game i can unplug my brain to at the end of the day. Kids' content is not *bad* content and can be entertaining and enjoyable to adults as well. Bluey is a shining example of that. Is bluey for everyone? No. Is genshin for everyone? Definitely not. But it has helped me calm down from many stressful days over the years. Do i wish there was some more Grit in there? Sure. I love the drama, But i also appreciate wandering around doing baby puzzles for free dopamine after a hard day more than i dislike the pulled punches scattered around.
I mean the same argument about it being made for a younger audience could be made for Breath of the Wild and the Mario games and they can be pretty fun even as an adult. Heck sometimes (with Zelda in specific) they even tackle more serious themes and circunstances in between just look at Majora's Mask or the Shadow Temple in OoT). A simplistic gameplay loop is not necessarily a detriment and in some cases it can help the game. And even then people find ways to make a simplistic system take skill and thinking on a very simple game at the surface. It's why i love speedruns and challenge runs from such games. In a more crude term it "puts skill in a skilless game" so to say which i find pretty neat. And like you said sometimes you just want that quick dopamine after a hard day at work. It's why playing stuff like Animal Crossing or Minecraft for that matter after a hard day can be quite relaxing. I say people should just play what they wanna play be it Dark Souls or Wind Waker. Being made for a younger audience doesn't necessarily make a game unfun as an adult.
Yo. I agree with you for the most part, but "WuWa is made for adult" is also kinda wrong. WuWa dialogues are mostly childish, Scar part was dark but Genshin also have something like that. The only thing that I think kids won't enjoy WuWa is maybe combat (?), but that doesn't even so complex and hard either. So...idk about bring WuWa to this argument. Also, there aren't even blood or death in WuWa yet.
idk what parts are censored because of politics but some of it does have to be due to the restrictions placed by the CCP, not because of the target audience
@@novu6196not really HSR is alot less censored, even the bluring thing is less. Hell honkai impact is 17+ cause of straight up anime chicks with bouncing tits in revealing clothes whooping ass and showing theirs half the time
i mean of course genshin is targeted towards a younger audience, but is he arguing that wuthering waves or honkai star rail isnt? Because they are just as bad?
Genshin is like teaching numbers to kids, the emphasis in fights is much more on the big colorful screen consuming numbers rather than the character movements and combat mechanics 9/10 times. Heck even my daughter who was around 5 back when Genshin released loved the game because it was really colorful, she knows what element made the attack just by the color of the numbers, white for physical, blue for hydro, yellow for geo etc. so I agree with Teccy with this one
Lil bro is still dead set on taking more people from genshin to wuwa lol (he calls himself mature btw). When will he learn that what's done is done, people who were willing and ready to go are already gone to wuwa. Now he is simply increasing the flames of this war which is totally unnecessary. Just play what you want that's it. We have money lil bro, those who are staying have already spent money on our beloved characters we ain't going nowhere.
@@markjosephhuerno3391im 21 and currently pursuing computer science and I have a life unlike y'all who act like your life depends on a fucking game. And oh yea, 'lil bro' is a non-aggressive way of calling someone out. And sorry that my dad is rich and I get a pretty good monthly allowance which I don't spend on doing drugs but spend it on a game. Lol
@@sodaplease no way your bringing career to win an an argument, now that's even more childish than saying lil bro, like holy fuck "sorry my dad is rich and giving me good allowance" 😭
@@markjosephhuerno3391 lil bro thinks I'm arguing with him who complains about me using 'lil bro' because he can't find anything else to complain about in my comment. Lol You think too highly of yourself. If you really thought i was arguing with you or have any need to play a part in your petty lil war of games, then hell nah im good as a bystander. Also I brought the carriar thing up coz you were indirectly calling me a child but ofcourse what do i even expect from someone who argues over a game.
@@sodaplease Cause 21 year old peeps don't talk like that lol, my nephew is literally 13 years old and I keep hearing lil bro everytime he talks to his friends, Hahaha And I'm sure 21 year olds are more level headed and will not immediately go passive aggressive when they are called out. That's a childish behavior.. more embarrassing if you're truly 21.☝️🤓
@@saltykitty9215well he's rage baiting and OP is pissing on his clown ass as intended by the clown All is going to plan, not sure whats there to complain about
I wouldn't call it a kids game at all but its a super simple easy game so I can understand the comparison. Not a fan of peeps saying a game being simple and colorful makes it for kids because its why our gov think anything animation related is for kids when things like Hazbin hotel Family Guy and South Park exist which are absolutely not for kids.
I expected Natlan will be the dark side of the Genshin, i thought we will see a completely destroyed land with constant war going on and there will be epic looking dragons clashing each other or something. Then i saw that teaser with pokemon-like bullshit and completely lost my passion about the game. Ive played this game since release and i think its a good time to say goodbye to it.
I almost never agree with him but for once he's mostly right lol. Although I wouldn't call it "game for kids", but "game specifically designed to be played by kids too". And I'm yet to see differences between Genshin and WW he keeps talking about except combat being more fun and fast paced. It's equally as easy, mechanics are almost irrelevant cause combat is mash button, and SO FAR there is absolutely nothing particularly dark and adult happening
Yeah, I would say more aimed at weebs, thats why you got adults and teens alike who play the game. If it were a kids game there wouldn't be so much reading and milfs.
The thing is the way they tell the story is family friendly. The darker sides of the story are mostly implied or hidden in nonvoiced quest, readables and artifacts/weapon lore. And there are a lot of players who enjoy this kind of story telling including myself.
Pokemon is the exact same. The games have dark lore in them if you bother to look at pokedex entries in the games. But the target demographic for pokemon is children. However, adults can enjoy the games as well, and there is nothing wrong with that.
It being child friendly and being a children’s game are two different things imo. They managed to capture a huge audience of teenagers, but Its core audience is and always will be young adults with jobs Cuz that’s who’s spending
Teccy YOU ARE WRONG, there i said it (mostly cuz i want to see how someone can force me to listen to paimon for 12h but details) +genshin is made for kids AND adults that actualy like to get deep into the story. I do agree that the events are mostly made for kids and the gameplay is so hard that a braindamaged monkey can do with enough time invested BUT the story of gensin if you bother to actualy read everything (even the boring things) is actualy pretty dark behind the sparkly front thats presented if you just speedrun everything. And honestly even tho its intended to appear as a kids game as you say im decently sure the ending of the story will have plenty of messed up sh*t that arent as easily hidden as most things so far.
I an kid agree with you tbh I like color and like no blood cause a lot blood gives me nightmares unfortunately. 😅 (thankfully I don't think the characters are real)
Aint no way bro pulled up with a teletubby counter argument. Blud officialy lost it lol. (please note this is sarcasm, I dont want to be made an example of by baldemort)
@@The.best.chess.player some are very much real..like the kids show doraemon is a very fun show even i used to watch..but its lore is about how a teenage boy was suffering with lonliness created a completely imaginary friend called "Doraemon" and when his parents took him to the doctor he was told his imaginary friend wasent real..so he took his own life by shooting himself in the head with a gun
Saying WuWa is for adults is quiet wrong and it may probably take you as long as in Genshin to realize it's also for kids. Like it's also +13 rated game with no blood scenes or even suggestive themes of "T" rated level let alone the real things of the "M" rated level. You should accept both GI and WuWa are targeted for everyone.
Hmm.. a colourful game doesn't make it a children game though. A light hearted story also doesn't make it targetted for children. The children in CN can't even play the game properly due to limitations lol. So I think I have to disagree that children is hoyoverse's targetted audience. :) Oh.. guess what? WuWa upcoming event is a race minigame, probably to collect coins and carnival-like. The one you said genshin has for "children". 😅
"all of that is in the background" signora getting killed by raiden, nahida getting imprisoned as soon as she was born and used for their purposes, wanderer wanting to kill himself, dottore killing and framing wanderers friend after mass murder, the literal hydro archon killing herself all of this on cutscenes on the msq, we still pretending only side quests have dark stuff? lmao.
I hope Genshin is still around the day I have kids of my own at an age where they can play Genshin. I can't wait for them to experience the one game that has been with me for the past 3 going on to 4 years. I play when there is content, I log off when there isn't any and it works with my busy schedule. Lots of ups and downs, calling it whatever you like is never going to change my experience. I hope one day the community/players mature enough to understand that someone else's experience and views about something has no dictation of their own. A children's game will be my children's game one day, or maybe Genshin Impact 2.
17:17, Nahhh if you are a lore skipper go play Wuwa, and if you are here for the lore or stories, go play Genshin, it's that simple 17:45 For me the line "Their aiming at very different people", is Wuwa is aiming for lore skippers and Genshin is for lore enjoyers We can actually spot people what games they like and don't🫤
Lmao, why is the basis, combat if it is for adults? Most kids are better at videogames than we are mate. Both Genshin and Wuwa targets kids as well. Genshin with its vibrant colors then wuwa with its flashy combat that u just have to sometimes die 2-5 times to get the timings in.
I really agree with minsleif in this. Genshin is not necessarily meant for kids, but it is presented in such a way. Some of the things you directly look at are pretty simple ie the enemies are easy to beat etc etc. But tectone saying that you really have to look deep to find the dark lore isnt correct here. You literally have to complete the sunchildren quest in order to explore enkanomiya. That quest in quite dark. I didnt have to reas lots of in game books to find that out. The tsurumi island quest is also quite dark but its necessary in order to remove the fog so you have to see the dark stuff in order to unlock a cettain area. Then theres the dainsleif quest which contains some really dark stuff. The wriothesly world quest etc. Of course, having dark themes doesnt exclude it from being children centred. Lots of dark tales have been told to children in the past. But saying that you really have to look for the dark part is inaccurate Though im aware that tectone doesnt like reading through unvoiced dialogue which many share the same opinion otherwise there wouldnt be many complaints about the aranara quest to begin with. But still, its important to put all things into perspective Fan theories eg in teletubbies isnt equal to a game that openly shows the dark themes if you read through the dialogue Tectone does say that its not in the forefront, but the dainsleif quest begs to differ. The quest keeps getting darker as time goes on, like the fact that the people in khanreah were wiped out simply for not worshiping the archons and believing in their ability to rule themselves, then they were turned into hilichurls who we fight every day as mobs. We've seen the caribert plot and the backstory of various characters etc. Its not that hard to find these dark themes. I personally like genshin because of the lore. Because no matter what tectone says, its really good. Not just the archon quest, but other stuff as well. I watch guys like minsleif and murderofbirds because of this stuff To be honest, honkai star rail is way more children centered than genshin since it doesnt have as many prevalent dark themes as genshin. However, tectone approaches this game from a gamer stand point, not as a reader and such. Thats why he skips the voiced dialogue and thats entirely fine. You enjoy the game as you want to and if you dont, thats fine. For my case, i enjoy genshin coz of the lore and star rail a bit more because its more fun to play. So im more of a hardcore gamer in star rail than genshin since its harder to explore and do genshin than it is to do star rail. And if thats the perspective that tectone comes with, thats entirely fine. Im just saying all this to put it into perspective. Playing genshin and being told its a children's game is essentially saying that anime is for kids. Which is why anime was frowned upon when we were younger. I mean, the goofy animation eg in one piece and the fact that its animated in the first place gives the impression that its "for kids" but once you look into it and watch some more variety etc, youll be able to see that its much more than that. That anime has its own genres, some of which are not aimed for kids. Also, adult content doesnt only revolve around sex, gore and stuff but also around mature themes that kids shouldnt be exposed to. Genshin has plenty of that and if you just play the game not for the combat alone and read the text on screen, youll just see that TLDR: genshin's dark themes arent hidden, they are present in the world and are sometimes compulsory to do in order to explore the areas on the map and get character building materials etc etc. But you wont experince it if you skip all invoiced dialogue. Genshin gameplay is alot more boring if you approach it from a gamer standpoint as tectone does. Star rail is way more fun in this case, which is why i play it more often than genshin. Coz doing stuff in that game is just more fun than it is for genshin. So lore enjoyers and gamers have a different experince with the game. One obviously sees how complex the story is while the other only notices how boring the combat is and tectone should consider this before calling the game objectively bad Mature story themes: absolutely present and is in the forefront of you really care to understand the content in the game(isnt 2%as tectone says but more of about 70% as mentioned above) Mature gaming themes(difficult bosses and endgame content): abysmal, not present at all
The only “dark” quest for me was both Tighnari’s story quest and the Fontaine quest and that’s it. Wanderer’s was okay but it was still not as dark as it could have been
I miss the day before 4.0. At sumeru teaser I saw a vast jungle that I want to explore. At fontaine teaser I wanted to live there. In Natlan teaser, when I saw that I have to play as baby dragon, I saw a game for kindergarten
@@seungjoonkin8970 hahaha.... For me it's utter disappointment, i was literally waiting for natlan ,NATION OF WAR, for 4 years. 🤣And we get nation of orange juice.
Lol you shit then what is Azur promilia then when Azur promilia comes wuwa will be same as TOF(Hope it survives that long😂😂). Natlan trailer tells me they are preparing to compete with Azur promilia because Wuwa is shit 😂😂😂
Some people called fontaine a desney land when they saw the first teaser, but if we look back to Fontaine quests Act 1 : An assassination attempt one character crashed by water tank and another one got dissolved and both were on screen Act 2 : The serial murder case Acts 3 and 4 : we go to prison, and I recommend you to do wriothesley story quest or watch the summary on UA-cam to see how horrible the situation was there. Act 5 : There was a whale that wanted to devour the people of fontaine because there is a primordial sea water in their blood, and at the end, the hydro archon offed herself to save everyone. Natlan being colorful doesn't mean everything is ok there.
Genshin Impact is just a game for casual players and played in really relaxing manners, So i think this game is for 7+ above and could be meant for kids so i am 100% agree with Tectone
I think most of the things you suggested as "these are reasons why GI is aimed at kids" are them adhering to the rules that worldwide games(and sometimes games made in China) have to adhere to in order to meet certain criteria for available in China. The fact that WuWa managed to get away with more without hitting the country's censorship(which from what I know can be completely arbitrary on who they enforce on or not) is actually pretty impressive, but also risky and I think Hoyo just leaned toward more security so they wouldn't be punished later. Especially after it got as big as it did.
Wuwa didn’t get away with anything the ccp is strict with tho? No gore, no in game blood (trailers don’t count), dead bodies aren’t gruesome, and they clothing is actually in the tamer side for a gacha
I fully agree as a AR60, lore lover Genshin is and will always be a child targeted game, I love it and the lore is deep enough to keep me interested However wuthering is everything Genshin can't be and better I'm not saying stop playing genshin.... But as an adult it's undeniable Mihoyos slogan WAS "tech otakus save the world" yet they don't listen to there communities Let us skip the fucking dialog please.... Please
I was ar 58 and yes, I moved on since the game was just so boring and no challenge were present. The lame rewards, paimon, no skip button and boring world and very bad exploration system. Compared to WuWa it's night and day, I'm just so adducted and playing way more than genshin when it released. People just can't accept the fact that other people prefer WuWa to genshin, they're that parasocial.
tbh addressing the story for children argument, something like lion king as an example might be more appropriate because you know the kid witness his dad died in front of his eyes. Something as dark as that exist in stories for children. And also Genshin's age rating is PEGI-12 when I look it up on Google so it all make sense.
I was hoping that Natlan will be like Khorne world from warhammer where the clans fight each other to worship the archon... but we have children pokemon instead
I realized genshin was for children when paimon tells you what you JUST HEARD seconds ago like its Dora or Blues Clues. Also when that black screen with white text pops up and stays for 20+ seconds when any adult with a functioning brain can read it 2 seconds. WuWa should not have copied that tbh
the life of tectone: criticize genshin every day. bro you have WUWA leave us alone with genshin, we understand you hate the game. but hey since WUWA doesn't make you see you continue to go down genshin great you have life
I would say Genshi is made for Teens but a large amount of its' player base are kids so they have incorporated many kid friendly elements (Piamon becoming more child like and basically handhold you through the story is a good example of that). You can't say that the Artifacts system is Kid friendly. I have a friend who is a grown adult who didnt watch any UA-cam videos. The guy had Deluc with Noel best in slot 4 Star Sword while run Wondering Troup with Instructor pieces. That was his best built character. This guy had 100% map and Quest completion. He could not pass Spiral Abyss 10 and has never 36 star the content. I of course explain how the system works and his account doing much better but this guy had all the 5 stars in the game with some signature weapons. He wasnt a wale. Just stupid lucky.
@@FireBlueZ Agreed. but based on how the content is currently being done. The company most likely have a younger audience as their main player base. Hence why the content is mostly catered toward them.
genshin is not for kids,and here is why. A company who specifically designs a gacha game, isn't looking to design it for a kids audience cause well here the the kicker..... they don't have jobs yeah. So it makes sense for them to target a more mature audience cause guess what thats where the $$$ is at.
Pssst.Let him be in his crazed reality where there are only two rules: $1 Tectone is right, §2 If Tectone is not right it's automatically §1. This guys a clown.
From the second I hopped on genshin for the first time years ago I immediately got the sense that GI was intended for a younger audience that doesn’t mean the game is bad I still enjoy and play it to this day if anyone was around for the PS2, GameCube, and even original Xbox era when I was really young there were a lot of games intended for a younger audience that had more mature themes, dialogue, and storyline elements sprinkled in here and there to provide some shock value or even comedic relief at times to the younger audience and a lot of those older games had even more edgy things in them than GI does and they were considered kids games so I’m not quite sure what so many people are upset about it changes nothing if you enjoy the game you enjoy the game that’s all that matters
This man is coping so hard it’s getting sad. It feels like Tec needs to talk about genshin every day of his life just to prove to himself that he is right in not playing it. You don’t need an 18 minutes analysis of the game to explain why isn’t as good as your new game. Which is not as “mature” and “adult” and grown-up as your new game. That’s pure cringe. Just move on dude. If you were really over this you wouldn’t be talking about it. You sound like the guy that keeps talking about his ex while he hangs with his date; It’s honestly sad to look at, and makes your new relationship (or in this case, the new game you are advocating for) terrible. WuWa feels literally like rebound sex for gamers, and I think it’s not the game’s faults but the obnoxious community of bitter former genshin players that are ruining the experience for me and most of the more casual players. This video was an absolute joke, and a sad one at that. I remember when I thought you were actually fun and entertaining, I miss those days. Please stop sparkling controversies just to stay relevant, just go back to being good at what you do and enjoying it.
I think the "Pokemon Mystery Dungeon" series does darkness in children targeted games right. Especially "Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Gates to Infinity", which was so good I actually suspect it to be a least a little bit of a social commentary about society. But the maturity rating of games like "Genshin Impact" cripple how intense their darkness can be, and only makes their story suffer. It happened to "Naruto", and it's happening to Genshin.
There are innuendos in children’s cartoons. Just saying. Disney princess films have some sinister shit too in the story at the forefront, but still targeted at kids.
Fortnite was not originally meant for kids, but because so many kids loved it so much, they began making it for kids.
Same thing with cod..
So pretty much genshin is like this and are exploiting kids
@@Kurikara_Raidenwhat made you think cod is meant for kids
@@Kurikara_Raiden wtf are u talking about
@@Nobody-ll7bo I mean it wasn't ever meant for kids yet now it is falling to favor them. With ridiculous chat restrictions to protect children (who shouldn't even be playing). And becoming a simply more realistic fortnite. Why the fuck is Alucard shooting snoop dawg? Why cant a 40 year old man drop an 4 bomb on the m rated game he spent hundreds of dollars on because Timmy is present when he shouldn't be.
Tectone you remind me a lot of my dad telling me I should stop watching anime because cartoons are for children, when I was 13 this had some effect on me because I wanted to be seen as 'grown up.'
When I actually grew up I understood that most people are morons and I didn't need to stop likeing something that I actually genuinely found fun just to earn the approval of people whose opinion I care about less than my cats.
I'm 34 now and I still love anime, SpongeBob was an awesome show, pokemon will always be fun no matter how much Nintendo and gamefreak try to fuck it up Harry potter fanfiction is still great and yes I also love Genshin.
Luckily I can still enjoy all those things because I have no obligation to look 'grown up' to anyone.
Union level 34 in wuwa btw because I don't let petty twitter rivalry stop me from playing a good game.
He's not saying to stop watching things meant for kids. He's saying Genshin is a kid's game; as in lighthearted with no true "dark" contents. The lore may be dark, but they don't show it or most of the times quickly brush past it. And that's not a bad thing, as this is a game meant for everyone. He's just stating a point many refuses to acknowledge.
@@AIA222-yu5ml The thing is that it isn't "meant for kids" it's E for everyone. There's a difference but tec just wants to have a hot take and clearly wants to push peoples buttons for attention. People who think things are only "for adults" if they're super dark and edgy are the people who lack real maturity, they still have the attitude of a 16yo wanting to "be adult"
@@NihongoWakannai As I said in my comment, "this game is meant for everyone". And I didn't say anything about "dark and edgy is only for adults".
@@AIA222-yu5ml but you're agreeing with tectone in saying "it's a kids game" which is contradictory to "it's a game for everyone"
A game made specifically for kids and a game made to appeal to people of all ages are two different things.
Tec made points like "it has bright colors" meaning it's for kids, which is just a dumb and immature take.
@@NihongoWakannai Alright, if you want me to be Paimon and break my opinion down into little bits for you to understand, then "It's a game for everyone including kids, but because kids are included they don't don't SHOW dark themes which can be found deep within lore. And because kids are included, they give simple events with simple puzzles and bright colors which everyone can enjoy but it appeals to kids more. Me translating Baldemort's words doesn't automatically means I agree with him. HSR and Wuwa are rated for teenagers and above because they, specially Wuwa, talk about and (kinda) shows massacre, rituals murder etc. Kids also play those games. Genshin being called a "kid's game" isn't an insult.
dont forget the baby diaper when the characters swim
That was supposed to keep us away from the butts.
But it did the opposite.
As what "Tower" from Top Gun says:
"I WANT SOME BUTTS!"
LMFAOOOO
Good one lol
the legendary bubble diaper
Hahahahaha
Tectone aggro'ing Genshin players, so NIKKE can release an extremely well-endowed character in peace (shes a danger to the Genshin community).
Genshin players always complain about other games having fan service lol
@@devilkazumi578i didn't see people complain about yelan tho, or any other hot women for that matter, where did you get that from
@orange._.persik4006 there's always people complaining. Had a girl tell me chlorinde is sexualised cuz her outfit is snug
@@orange._.persik4006 "hypocracy"
Soda my beloved❤
it makes so much sense. think about it, when you see genshin impact ads on UA-cam, what do you see? some mini game of yelan, xianyun and wanderer racing to a mountain in liyue somewhere. 💀
@BasedMan88x88 well, considering the fact that I see you in every gacha creators comments, im going to assume that you’re just a troll account and you have nothing else better to do. if you’re serious.. then man we should schedule a time to speak because I want to help you and improve your critical thinking. goodnight tho be safe
@@ocheese2735 well yes, that person is indeed, a troll/bot account
@@ocheese2735Got em lol that account gone.
Containing dark scenes doesn't take it out of children category.
Remember when the witch temporarily killed Snow White and that time when an assassin is hired to kill Snow White? Remember when the witch was chased by the dwarfs armed with clubs and other weapons with an intent to kill her then the witch fell off the cliff and got crush by the boulder and the crows waited for her to die so they could eat her corpse?
All that is showed in the movie, and that movie is made for kids.
@@zogwort1522 That was so out of left field it got me hollering. Thank you for the laughs funny man, you've brighten my day.
@@zogwort1522 Ok, some dude with a moustache that killed people likes what other people also likes.
So what? Why would anyone give a fuck?
So if a kid can watch it without getting night terrors it's a kid's movie? I don't understand your logic. What point are you trying to make exactly? As a kid I was watching R rated movies, are those "kids movies"? Genshin got a Teen rating, it's target audience is the young adult audience, primarily. Does that mean kids and families don't play it? No, but that doesn't change their target audience.
Also in old kids content, a lot of that stuff is in there is there for the adults in the room. Also, many of your quotes pertain to films that are rated PG, that suggest parental guidance because quote "some material may not be suited for children" which in the video game space would equate to an E10+ rating, not an E rating.
@@zogwort1522 The rating boards are the institutions that state the games/movies target audience, through the content therein. If your game has a teen rating it is targeting a 13+ audience. If they weren't targeting that audience, they would have made the changes they needed to to get that lower rating.
How you feel about it is irrelevant.
@@zogwort1522 So, girls of all ages are kids then?
Dude, your arguments are full of fallacies. If they were making a game intended primarily for consumption by kids, they, like Minecraft's, or Pokemon's devs would have made the concessions they needed to, to get an E rating, the fact that they did not shows their intent.
It is that simple. Now I'm sure they know, that they have families that play their games and yeah, they definitely do cater to that audience, and not just in Genshin, in Star Rail too. All of Hoyo's games have the silly family friendly mini games. Most Gacha's do, in fact.
Genshin is like a beach, kids can play along the beach, make sand castles and enjoy the shallow and surface level content, but older players are like surfers or drivers, enjoying things further from the beach, and can dive deeper into the story/plot.
Yeah, it's called E for everyone. idk why some people find that so hard to understand
So you're saying the game is made for everyone?! Omg i can't believe it!
/s
Except if you are an adult who just strictly loves the combat and want more end game. More in depth mechanics. Better combat events. Better events in general. You are never getting it. Let's be real. Genshins combat system IS fun. But they will never do anything for people who love the combat. There are no enemies with attack patterns you need to dodge. Bring a shielder or healer and you can ignore 100% of damage. It's big health bar do big numbers in x amount of time. And that's all it will ever be. Genshin is kid coded. It is what it is. Nothing wrong with enjoying it as an adult either.
@@TheRedOGRE the game is made for everyone not just kids, mostly in the ages of 15.
For genshin i expect good story based events with mini games here and there, because of its casual nature, does this make it a kids game? No because its for everyone. Stop gate-keeping and putting this narrative that its specifically made for children who can't even read that watches cocomelon.
@@TheRedOGRE genshin's combat isn't fun at all, it's just button spamming. That's why I quit it years ago.
Tecmonbald is right. A lot of classic children stories have dark lore/origins. Peter Pan, Hansel and Gretel, Alice in Wonderland, the boy who cried wolf, and the list goes on. Dark lore doesn't exclude something from being for children.
A lot of grimm story was originally meant for adult, but they changed them into fairy tales for kids
@@Bronan2920 so what you are saying is, these "fairy tales for kids" have dark origins? Almost like that is exactly what I said. Again, my only statement is that dark lore doesn't exclude something from being for children. I have no opinion on Genshin itself. Only that dark lore/origins is not the basis for something being made for adults.
@@MarblemirrormanSo why cant WuWa be childs game too?? Just because of color?? Really?? Color??
@@ferdinandandi3542 judging by your lack of reading comprehension and strawman argument, I'd guess you yourself are a child. My comment is about dark lore/origins and it not being a viable basis for determining if something was made for adults or children. Not about which game is or isn't a child's game.
@@Marblemirrorman One comment and suddenly goes to 'Lack of Reading Comprehension'. Thats the trend now right??
I was replying to your 'Main Comment' in which you didnt exclude yourself to the argument on the video (ABOUT THE GAME).
I didnt even read your reply to others
"I have no Opinion on Genshin itself"
cause youtube didnt show it in the comment page unless I go to the reply section. Not reading that cause youtube doesn't even shownit suddenly makes people have a 'Lack of Reading Comprehension'
Not to mention, you taking out the main point of the video (THE GAME) and then saying people talking about THE GAME in the video have a lack of reading comprehension are weird. Like weird. I don't even know if you know what that means and how it used.
Since I already saw the 'safe code' of not wanting to talk about the topic AT ALL, I would leave at this. Have a nice day. See you in another video in which you will exclude yourself from the topic too.
the only thing that's dark about genshin's story is their horrendous puzzles required for you to get into the new region in the story you're on. 💀
The Aranara quest was the darkest for me.
Here's a puzzle for the developers: How long untill I reach your house?
@@AIA222-yu5ml it's literally dark since the game have lot of dark screen with white text during that quest lol
Then you don't know the hidden lores💀
@@windygrotesque2102 true. I started questioning all my life decisions 3 hours in. It just won't end😭
If twitter or social media didn't exist, you'll realize that both game is fun, have their own world to explore, you can just play both without hating the other
But people trying to fight for the best game is crazy
Exactly right. Let people enjoy what they want. All this arguing is ridiculous when it’s two different games with different characters, different worlds, different styles, and different combat. One or the other other might not be everybody’s cup of tea and guess what, that’s okay. This is a problem with what tectone does, he’s probably just drama farming, but he breeds so much toxicity through his community in doing this that it does nothing but hurt everyone. I think a large part of why WW launch was disappointing is because of how much hype the CCs put around it. If they had just let it be its own thing instead of labeling it as a “Genshin killer” then the launch probably would have been at least a little better.
Yeah, tec is clearly trying to just get attention with another dumb hot take because he can't handle people not talking about him for 2 seconds
Gacha players are dumb. And tectone have plenty of dumb fans
@@NihongoWakannaihe's a streamer bro he needs to yap
If Tecton didn't exist also lol :)))))
Gaslighting Translation: "The game you enjoy is lame, and so are you. Only big tough guys like WuthyWaves. There's DMC combat and stuff. For real adults! I still cry at night, for what Mihoyo did to me."
You seems to prove this video’s point. You act like one
@@seungjoonkin8970 Constructive opinions are wasted on this guy. Ya need to speak his language.
Natlan a bloody country, a nation at war. Then showed pokemon region with colorful vibrant design. Cause they don't want fans (kids) to be traumatized
I mean regardless of how he’s trying to say it, it’s funny seeing genshin fans try to argue that the game isn’t a kids game lmao
@@revengeofthesith. I guess the issue is, why point it out? Imagine you enjoying a Pixar movie, then some guy comes up and tells you, "Thats for kids...." I mean, ok? Whats your problem?
To put into perspective the type of lore that we could be in store for when it comes to WuWa; PGR has an entire 3 hour long main story quest that depicts a child trying to survive in a situation caused by a giant sentient blood ocean that's consuming people and replaying their dying moments as far as it can in order to attract their loved ones and eat them as well. It depicts an entire colony moving from place to place, just trying to find a safe area with the aid of the gray ravens and ends with very VERY expilict child death, s*icide, and extreme survivor's guilt. On top of that, trafficking comes up early in the story and the commandant that you play as is almost roped into it at the very start of the quest. Other things the game gets into, as time goes on, include more child death, the real conditions of a poor child estranged from their community because people think their mother is a whore, extreme mind-altering experiments on people barely over 18, child soldiers, systematic s*icide, g*nocide, and heavy drug usage just to name a few. With what was shown in act 5, I'm confident that WuWa will likely evolve into a storyline as dark or darker.
Fun thing is that most of these topics are also present in genshin, but they are mostly either hidden in written lore or pretty much just mentioned once and ignored later on. They want to have undergoing dark lore and story but are hiding it from casual players
Exactly. Even the recent Hanying chapter with Pulao. I thought it's gonna be the happy and jolly break from depression like the Pulao quest but NO. It's a black mirror episode in the end. Still not done with this current patch so I shall see.
If the writers will write something similar to the likes of Surviving Lucem, Cinder Burns, Spiral of Chronos, Wintry Shackles, or Echo Aria to name a few. I'm not worried about WuWa's quality of story and lore moving forward. The delivery will only be the issue and they're able to show they could deliver in Act III-VI.
What I like about their writing as well is that they don't try hard to be edgy. There are sad and light moments. All are warranted, even the deus ex machina tropes (flashbang Liv) are very well written. Same with the snowpierecer train trope like Akdilek with Cinder Burns and eternal engine, the world and people in it felt so alive.
Their writing, at least in PGR, honestly reminds me of novels and books I've read and loved. From George Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm to Steinbeck.
Another thing is, even if the story is dark in Genshin. That doesn't exclude it from being a children's game. Adventure time, Batman Animated, and many others are geared towards kids. Yet they tend to have dark and/or emotional stories in them. Plus Movies like Shrek have adult jokes/themes as well
WuWa already has us witnessing an actual dying soldier on the main story
This. I think their idea is that Huanglong is the safest country in Sol 3 which explains the story being less dark than I originally anticipated and the next regions will include increasingly darker stories because they're not as safe and comfy as Huanglong.
4:07 brain rot has taken over because I almost heard skibidi buck. I am now going to end it all.
nononoooo nooo
Don't give up, they spam that shit everywhere, no one can blame you
wtf is skibidi buck
For all the children who might not understand, he said "lets keep it a buck" but really fast so the words sounded like that 😭
GENSHIN>FLOPPING WAVES
The thing that really is wrong about your opinion is that you just FORCE IT towards your own audience and in your own eyes this just isn't wrong. All the while your audience just keeps adopting your own opinions and make it seem like its their own unique idea. Since your own audience is this big, of course most of them would just blindly listen to your opinions and go "yeah, he is so real for that" and then just go along with it all the way. You need to understand how big of an influence you are as a big content creator with so much followers and this video will just prove how much of your "followers" will again adopt this "opinion" of yours even though its clearly not exactly the right one.
Putting aside the hilarity of Tectone attempting to judge Genshin's darkness and maturity when he skips 90% of its content by refusing to read (literacy is for babies)...
Dark things that happen in voiced quests:
1 - Stanley's friend suffers from guilt and PTSD because he watched his friend die in front of him and takes on his persona because he can't come to terms with Stanleys' death and believes he should have died instead.
2 - A Treasure Hoarder is sacrificed to the upside down statue
3 - Four of the five yaksha go insane and kill each other and themselves. Bosacious loses his mind and dies in a place like purgatory after everyone around him goes insane and dies
4 - We discover that hilichurls are innocent humans cursed to endless torment who cannot die and are so tortured by looking at their own faces in their monstrous form that they wear masks at all times to hide from the truth. Among those victims is a little boy who regains his sentience only to go insane when he disobeys his father's instruction and looks at his own face
5 - An innocent goddess with a soft heart is betrayed by her own followers and stabbed in the back as a mercy killing, accidentally killing all of her followers in the process.
6 -The 4 men whose visions were stolen whose minds are broken
7 - Kazuha's friend who braved the lightning's glow and died in front of Kazuha, scarring Kazuha
8 - The story of Tatarasuna, and how Dottore murdered an innocent man, ripped out his heart, and tricked Scaramouche into using it while lying and claiming that the one man who had accepted Scaramouche had betrayed and abandoned him
9 - Teppei, your kind and lovable friend and fanboy is tricked into aging to death without realizing it until it's too late
10 - Collei suffers from a degenerative disease that will slowly kill her, and to save her, her parents sent her off to a scientist as a child who performed horrible human experimentation on her that has left her with PTSD and a deep fear of being touched
11 - Another girl with the same infliction is far worse off and is desperate to attend an annual festival because she likely won't survive to see the next one - only to get that festival canceled, and then trapped in an endless timeloop that's slowly draining her life energy so she'll die in a matter of days instead of months
12- Innocent researchers trying to learn from Irminsul get driven insane by touching forbidden knowledge and are exiled to live as homeless beggars in the desert to hide the shame of the akademiya, only to later be experimented on to death, and their anguish is so terrible that you can hear their crying miles away every night
13 - Scaramouche attempts to erase himself from existence because of his guilt, and also he befriends a sickly boy whose parents died, and whom he comes home to find one day has died.
14 - Kaveh struggles with extreme depression and alcoholism because of his guilt and grief over his father's death, believing he is at fault for his father's death for asking him for something as a child
15 - There's a serial woman murderer in Fontaine and the ghosts of the murdered women lure him in to kill him out of revenge
16 - Navia's mentor and closest friend die in a natural disaster after the player gets to know them, and Navia blames herself. They come back just long enough to save her from death and say goodbye
17 - Furina suffers mental torture for 500 years
18 - Prejudiced people drove an innocent Melusine to her death for no reason, and then Neuvillette's only friend murdered the primary person responsible for this only to go to prison unjustly as a consequence
19 - Lynette is purchased by a man intent on doing untoward things to her while she is yet a child and is only saved by the Knave massacring the nobleman
20 - The Traveler is lead to believe there is a group of cannibals in the prison
21 - Wriothesley kills his parents
22 - The children of the hearth are forced to battle each other to the death and if they resist they are beaten and tortured into compliance. Those who are maimed in battle are given to Dottore to be experimented on, those who try to defect or quit are executed. The children become so full of despair that even the most bright and optimistic child eventually decides death is the only way out, Her ghost becomes trapped in the house for decades, unable to see the sun, trapped in a purgatory of her own trauma. Also a kid strangled all his family pets just to see what happened.
Or is 'voiced quests' also just going way way out of your way to look for dark stuff?
There’s this “ cute kid “ we befriended in Inazuma . Who told us about his friend the bird god. We didn’t notice until later we are in a time loop . We discovered in the past the kid was used as human sacrifice to that god . Who got mad with the humans and destroy all the island with them .
This. Dude has such a shit take when he skipped Sumeru AQ and 90% of dialogue which had really dark themes. Also Tsurumi island or the freaking hospital in Sumeru desert where madmen Dottore experimented on people that had Eleazar
Well tecs audience were mostly genshin haters so ofc he will doompost genshin
@@okwoco Yeah, the fact that he does none of the non-voiced quests and then skipped one of the main chapters of voiced content means he is in no position to judge its content. He also misses a lot of things because he's distracted by chat, so if it's at all subtle it zips by him.
Add more list after the 4.7 quests if it has some more messed up stuff...
also any game in general is viewed as "made for children" by the society. If you're an adult (18+) and you tell your co workers or college friends that you play videogames you're automatically labeled as a geek/immature. just play whatever game you enjoy because playing a certain game will not make you any more of a man or "children".
No one said you can't enjoy a kids game. He's saying you just accept that it's a kids game so next time they release an update that doesn't include end game or actual content, you won't get upset or disappointed cuz its a kids game
I think this generalization and stigma existed before COVID. During Covid everyone was looking for things to do and to entertain themselves so many turned to videogames (hence the posers, ignorant e-girls and whatnot that we have today). Right now, saying you play videogames isn't exactly a cause to be shunned in many places, they are more focused fighting over mobile games, console games and pc games. Which is equally ridiculous.
Just show silent hill, doom, GoW, and souls franchise to your co-worker, they'll change their mind. Geek ain't the same as children around these part bub 🤠
Not anymore, only people that think like that are boomers. Who cares what they think anyway
Maybe a few years ago, but this has changed. Even things like anime. I use to keep these hobbies to myself in high school and middle school for the same reasons, but now it feels like both anime and games have become more and more common that it’s normal to like these things as anything else. Maybe because I live in USA that’s how things are, but I can’t speak for other countries.
After the recent genshin livestream u can't even deny that Genshin itself doesnt treat their audience like kids cuz the VAs had a segement where they toyed with the viewers abt the primo count being raised in spiral abyss from 600 to ... 800 in the most condescending way possible.
We deserve it lmao
They are also paid to do so.
Actually, signora was beheaded by the raiden shogun. I thought that was cool. For a second you could see her head leave her body.
@@kaloyanivanov885 you have a very creative imagination!
@@kaloyanivanov885Star wars, a movie made for kids, has multiple decapitation and amputation scenes.
Some of the points that you used against genshin can also be used against wuwa:
There is no blood in wuwa .
The puzzles are simpler than genshin's puzzles
The mc beat the final enemy with power of friendship.
Censorship ? Scar got censored yesterday.
We can also use these points against hsr.
And of course, when he gets called out on his bs, he's super quick to discredit them by saying "yeah but you have the anti tectone buff" and just quickly skimmed through the twitt.
-tons of games can depict adult theme even without blood.
-that goes the same with simple puzzles as well for people who only wants to focus on the story.
-Having a good ending and using power of friendship doesnt mean its made for children. However, it is debatable. If Wuwa goes down their path later down the line.
-that's because of PR since idiot's exist, lose audience = lose money. they're still a gacha game at the end of the day.
WuWa at its current state, is catering on tryhards. which is, whether you deny it or not, are teenagers to young adults. and i agree, it still has some elements that are undeniably for kids. but that doesn't necessarily mean its for them. UA-cam originally was meant for everyone, until it wasnt because of COPPA and advertisers.
@@Kyle81290 you never bothered to cross-examine the main comments point. you are the reason for the anti tectone buff lmao
@@redcoldedlava9937
Bro you're the one who's try harding here to convince him that his point is wrong and your point is right .
"Just because they have elements for kids doesn't mean its for kids " sure buddy try to convince yourself of that .
You're acting exactly like the genshin players trying to convince themselves that it isn't for kids .
I could just tell you the same argument " just because wuwa has mature elements doesn't mean it's meant for mature audience, so many cartoons have mature elements but they are Ultimately made for kids " same goes for wuwa .
@@ahmedmubarak751 You simply proved that wuthering waves can be for both kids and adults then. and you know thank you for correcting me. I was fighting for the wrong point. Still doesn't change that Genshin is still ultimately for kids now. Adults can only experience half the fun.
So much of these can be also be applied to other gacha games.
- First of all, the art style is Irrelevant. I'm sure you cant think of yourselves plenty of games that is childish in artstyle yet not so much in story and gameplay. There were people that argued Wow was a kids game because of this. It's obvious that genshin is supposed to be a vibrant relaxing exploration game, same as the game it was inspired/copied from, Breath of the wild.
- Paimon is SUPPOSED to be annoying. It's by design. She's literally Navi from LoZ. Her repeating everything is their way to do it. Can they be more creatively annoying? (much like how she annoys Itto) Yes but that's what they chose.
-The blood argument can also be argued to Wuwa. No blood at all. In fact Genshin has more bloodesque thing going on (Arlechinno uses blood and fire bending as her attacks although the blood is quite masked by the fire)
- Combat is simple. Why is that? You may have forgotten Genshin is VERY experimental when it came out. It's an openworld "Breath of the Wild" like for smartphones. That's very important. For Smartphones. Another thing is it's a game made by Hoyoverse. StarRail is also very simple for a turn based game.
- again for the Mini-game events, it's a cozy relaxing game. Not supposed to be hardcore. You cannot change the foundation that the game is designed on just because you think it's not in your level.
- for this waifu/husbando argument... you say that as if you have never played a gacha game before. It's in every gacha game.
- Mc as a self insert is just plain stupid. There's so many games with self insert. This might blow your mind. Some games even go so far as make a character creators for their self insert characters, I know crazy. I even go far and to say that the MC is less of a self insert than the ones that doesn't show their MC or these character creation ones.
- No swearing? You motherfudgin Forking crystal ball. Is Star Rail a kids game?
- Some of you believed that there's endgame content? yeah you assumed that there will be because... what? nobody said there will be. Even Mihoyo themselves said it very early on that there never be. (Although, they've been adding harder content in events with almost no rewards just to satisfy those demands.) you just assumed from how the usual gacha games you encounter that there will be.
-I cannot say anything about the new "endgame" because I have not tried and don't want to jump to conclusions. from the leaks before they announced it I too thought that it also will be very restrictive but since you can take characters from other players I'm not sure if it really is that restrictive. It will be hard... but isn't that what you want?
I watch you for your other contents now just move on.
mintpicker
This is more facts than anything he spit so far. There are 2 reasons why Tectone making this drama
1) To farm money through it
2) To make people think Genshin story is bad and WuWa story is good after the intense amount of criticism people gave on WuWa story
My guess is that he wants to make WuWa increase in its fanbase surpassing Genshin, and trying to do damage control on the bad writing for part 1 of WuWa.
@@FireBlueZ I did want to add calling him up for "recruiting" people into WuWa based on his recent twitter posts. But that's just the Content creator life. I can't blame him on that.
@@lsmsm9 I barely play genshin since the last year but if you're going with that I'm assuming you're trying to defend Wuwa. There's plenty of mints to be picked in that game too. So back at you "Mintpicker".
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The art style stuff is just irrelevant, this is like saying animation can not be made for adults if it looks colorful
Also I think you do straw man some arguments with what the majority of Genshin fans on Twitter think
The whole story is for children too, paimon and whatever, it's not just the art style
you must be tweakin, if you think they maxed out the saturation of the game, and made that so adults would play their game. Pretty colors is just what acttracts children the most
I think the design of everything is cute like those cute hilichurls, abyss mage, etc like those were mean for kids. Even the game said it is about hope and bright story or whatever(eventhough the LORES of the characters arent), art style, world building, colors are like those kids cartoon movie. Like everything in the game is very friendly to children .eventhough it is a 12+ game, i think kids below 10 can also play it and somewhat understand the story of genshin(if they know how to read)
I agree but it is a factor specially when coupled with other factors like the writing technique.
For instance, Happy Tree Friends is bright and colorful but I need not say what it is about. Same with Bojack Horseman or Rick and Morty.
It has to do with intention imo, Genshin I think was meant to be your typical epic adventure fantasy anime trope. Aside from the art direction aligning with the genre, we can also consider how it's written to end up in a conclusion that it's catered towards a younger audience.
Paimon reiterating everything is for those who lack a bit of critical thinking or those who have short attention span . So Paimon is there to remind you what's happening. In some games like The Witcher 3 and WuWa, the inner monologue of Geralt and Rover is the paimon but they only often speak of what you think. Paimon most often than not just repeats things in case we don't get it.
I think when we consider more viable indication of whether or not a game's narrative is aimed towards a particular demographic, like the writing style and the genre, we could conclude that Genshin is indeed more targeted towards the kids.
I personally don't care what Genshin is specifically made for. A game is a game.
Valid, but that doesn't mean it's not. A game is a game, simple. But genshin's target audience is WAY different than say, elden ring's target audience. You can enjoy things even if you are not the main demographic, it just helps to know where you stand at times.
Hes really obsessed with convincing people genshin is a childrens game haha.. to me it feels like he desperately NEEDS to be right about this for some reason like hes trying to prove something.
So he wont change his mind, not that it matters tho.
@hazamax2139 Sometimes, when any medium is made, it tends to have a set of demographic only to fire further than expected.
I good example is a series Miraculous Ladybug. The target demographic was for kids, but it unexpectedly got a lot of adult fans as well, more than was expected.
@MrDakold I think everybody knows Genshin is for children, but nobody cares about that fact.
The fact alone doesn't seem to be relevant to Genshin's own existence anyway.
I mean, I'm 28, and I still love cartoons. Why do I care if it was made for children if I can enjoy it too?
@@warlis4767 Yeah yeah, I'm not saying otherwise or that it is bad when it happens but it doesn't change the fact that the target is still kids. Unless it ends up overwhelmingly unbalanced to that unintended audience, the decisions are gonna be made towards their target.
Genshin is it's own example of this. As far as I know, people have been asking for more endgame since years ago, way before WuWa was a thing. But that people, for as vocal as they were, were not the main demographic. Their voices did not matter.
That's what I mean with knowing where you stand. Not all feedback is valued with the same weight. If you want change and you are not the main target, you are probably not gonna get what you want.
Tectone knows what he is saying lol. He is trying to engage with as much bait as possible especially when he says "baby" game. Most people don't think baby game in this way Tectone is saying, they think of games for pre-schoolers. However there are people who do refer to children as babies, even if they aren't. The thing is you can tell what he is getting at when he talks about Pokemon. He is saying baby game figuratively, but he knows he will piss people off saying it in that way lol.
HSR also fits to most things he is saying. Hoyo is in the market with Genshin and HSR in making games accessible and making them child friendly is a way to do this. Harry Potter a children's book series that is loved by many adults. Pokemon, a game series loved by many adults. Genshin and HSR fits this mold.
pokemon is a kids game loved by adults that can't admit it has absolutely sucked since it went 3d
So what? That that doesn't mean that I can't be enjoyed by adults aswell although the latest pokemons are indeed ba
@@anakinsmith4770mam I wish pokemon had 3d world like wuwa a d genshin but the switch sucks and they won't upgrade the engine that's why Pokemon 3d games looks shit
@@Mr.Cheeesse it would suck even if they did because we all know that would add only 400 and cut 600+ pokemon
The problem was not that you called Genshin a children game. But this is what you said:
Honkai Impact 3rd
Character Driven Narrative
Genshin Impact
You are a child
Honkai: Star Rail
The Story and Turn BASED Combat
Wuthering Waves
World Exploration Smooth and Skill Based Combat
So basically other games you listed basic characteristics every game would have, but when it comes to Genshin it's summarized into a children game? It's like playing Pokemon and watching One Piece = you are a child, without even listing the reasons why people do that? This is 100% just for drama and nothing else.
Yea man, bro is just farming this whole Genshin stuff, He has said he hates the game, so it’s not really ideal to take his content about genshin seriously. Id rather hear someone’s thoughts on the game that actually plays it. Instead all you get when he brings up genshin is like when someone talks about a bad ex girlfriend/boyfriend…
Well atleast i m finding comments that r not like tecs opinion his entire takes were just to annoy others
Genshin does have dark lore and im not arguing but the direction hoyo is taking the game towards u cant tell me its not a kids game ill admit genshin was fun BEFORE i tried wuwa
@@gamespremier7179 Yea so basically Genshin bad Wuwa good?💀
@@ChrisUchiha7 i just said it was fun BEFORE i tried wuwa..now genshin seems like a fking joke..its so bad compared to wuwa if u just look at the basic QoL features lifes way easier on wuwa
I swear to god or the seven archons or whatever but Kuro Games showing screenshots of playing Genshin and Hoyoverse showing Screenshot playing Wuthering has to be their way to tell their own players to grow the fuck up and that they don't have any problems with each other so it's only the playerbases which is hilarious.
Almost every classic childrens story has a dark undertone. Even GOOD childrens movies back in the day. Remember Fox and fhe Hound? That shit had dark symmetry all over the place.
Genshin feels to vibrant and "clean." Sterile, i guess the word is. They actually create some good basis for a dark backstory. But the devs never give them the push they need. So they just remain an ambiguous slogfest with Paimon yapping non fucking stop.
Tectone was so obsessed with explaining that Genshin has no blood that forgot that WuWa also has no blood. Plus, the coolest bossfight ended with some fucking cinnamonroll rip off.
Blood or not it's just an exemple, it's more serious than genshin as it is. It's just 1.0 too. Also why complaining about the boss fights when genshin fights are just lame as hell and too easy
@@mordy2085I’m not talking about boss fight difficulties. Learn to read and try again.
I thought they can't add blood anyways cus of some law or something in china, a lot of games in china arent allowed to show blood or anything like that
@@mordy2085 What's so serious about a general letting an Amnesia guy he just met for 5 minutes leading his whole army? Compared to the sacrifice being made by a god for 500 years so later she can later be destroyed by guillotine and save the nation? You good bruh?
Btw, there is blood in Genshin, did people really forgot Prelude Trail cutscene about adeptus killing each other? And you really want to say WuWa is more serious?
@@Frez_CH yes it's more serious, but the genshin doesn't show any of that , WuWa does show blood especially in danjin trailers. Also you're comparing 1.0 to 4.7 and before, calm your sht down boy. That's an unreasonable comparaison for now. Cringe shills.
People arguing about different games for no reason at all are the real children here.
Yes ik. Tectone did this vid just for content, he already knew about that so.
About Gambling casino* not really games
What is even more funny, one of their argument is that "Genshin is a gacha game, a kid can't spend" or "There's drugs and kidnapping, it can't be a kit game" while most children have played Clash of Clan, Clash Royal and/or GTA has their 1st game on the phone or PS3 or 4.
The dumbest argument I've seen lmao. It's a free to play game. It's literally designed to target people without an income to begin with.
"Kid can't spend"
Spoiler allart ...kids here spends 50-100 bucks monthly like it nothing.. And not 1 or two.. At least 90% of them whoever plays games
The amount of money stealing from parents are beyond anyone's understanding
The thing is the term "kids can't spend" kinda doesn't work when they do something called "ask their parents" a certain community is very fond of that and that is Roblox kids
GENSHIN>FLOPPING WAVES
@@Pain09876 y u spam all over the comment feed with the same message?
i’ve never played or watched genshin, so i have no bias. wuthering waves is 100% made for 10-15 year olds. the jingle-beast questline is very similar to that darknight genshin questline shown in this video.
@@terrormansakata9626 true, i suppose that is a bit too graphic for younger folks
@@terrormansakata9626that part got me... Remember cammelia cut scene... U can't convince me it's made for kids😭
This has to be bait. "made for 10 to 15 years olds" game literally is marked as 16+
GENSHIN>FLOPPING WAVES
@@Pain09876 delete that comment you just want more drama
Genshin: 3 yrs = 3 fates
WuWa: 3 days = 3 5* characters
- Now thats a fact
I'm only short 2, 5 stars and getting another soon and I have not spend on anything yet 😅
and that matters why one game is easy the other is supposed to be a difficult version also if you give free characters as an apology that don't count because your gonna have to keep doing it. you people don't even listen to yourself before you comment
a 5* is a 5* deal with it .. if ur so triggered with it then its a You problem ..
Wuthering Waves is soo much better than Genshin Impact and here are the reasons:
1. Graphics
- WW graphics are 10 times better than Potato Impact which is huge for a serious PC gamer like myself.
2. Combat System
- WW combat system is also way better(heaps more fun imo) - obviously massive plus.
3. Artifacts
- WW have root based artifacts meaning you can farm much as you want, unlike Genshit Impact's super limited resin plus 99% crap artifacts combo.
- On top of that it's million times easier to get gg or perfect artifacts, so many people already have several perfect or near artifacts in WW.
- So its day and night compared to game like Genshin..
4. Wishes
- WW wish system is super generous compared to Genshin, so many people got 5 stars within 2-3x 10 wishes.
- WW developers already gave everyone one FREE 5 star hero, you know samething Genshin did for 3rd anniversary.. cough
- WW doesn't have total scam weapon wish like Genshin.. you get the 5 star weapon you select within 80 pulls(usually much quicker).
- Have fun getting Furina weapon by getting another two totally useless 5 star weapon first)
Honestly way I see it Genshin died on the release day of WW, personally I've spent tons of $$$ in Genshin but I will NOT be spending another cent on that total rip-off game graphics made for old Nokia phones.
Wuthering Waves is soo much better than Genshin Impact and here are the reasons:
1. Graphics
- WW graphics are 10 times better than Potato Impact which is huge for a serious PC gamer like myself.
2. Combat System
- WW combat system is also way better(heaps more fun imo) - obviously massive plus.
3. Artifacts
- WW have root based artifacts meaning you can farm much as you want, unlike Genshit Impact's super limited resin plus 99% crap artifacts combo.
- On top of that it's million times easier to get gg or perfect artifacts, so many people already have several perfect or near artifacts in WW.
- So its day and night compared to game like Genshin..
4. Wishes
- WW wish system is super generous compared to Genshin, so many people got 5 stars within 2-3x 10 wishes.
- WW developers already gave everyone one FREE 5 star hero, you know samething Genshin did for 3rd anniversary.. cough
- WW doesn't have total scam weapon wish like Genshin.. you get the 5 star weapon you select within 80 pulls(usually much quicker).
- Have fun getting Furina weapon by getting another two totally useless 5 star weapon first)
Honestly way I see it Genshin died on the release day of WW, personally I've spent tons of $$$ in Genshin but I will NOT be spending another cent on that total rip-off game graphics made for old Nokia phones.
6:01 tbf not even star rail has swearing. in fact they proactively censor boothill
6:57 i'm pretty sure only the chinese version of the game requires the censored versions. you can still have the uncensored version in global
7:23 the fundamental issue is that genshin caters to a casual audience, so ofc they're going to put the most time and effort into expanding what that casual audience enjoys. like it took them 4 years to add new endgame combat bc that wasn't a priority for them; polishing and expanding the core experience was
+ casual gameplay does not inherently mean "for kids". candy crush is super casual and yet the people that play it are mostly 30 y/o women. i think asmon actually has the most accurate take on this situation. games like genshin are for "girls, femboys, and pussies", all people who shy away from the grit, gore, and "git gud" nature of "adult" games
9:48 ... all traits that girls and emasculated men love. and i say this as someone who's probably closer to "femboy" than "man"
9:58 "who are looking for a more mature gaming experience" being the key detail here. adults are not a monolith, different people enjoy different experiences
13:25 i don't remember the last time i thought about teletubbies further than simply the fact that it exists, but unless i'm missing some sort of official lorebook they released, all of these claims sound like conspiracy theories/pure speculation. whereas for genshin, the events are canon and specifically mentioned in the game
14:01 bruh. you can't just say "i skip all side stories" and then act like those side stories don't exist by saying "genshin doesn't have any dark lore"
14:45 it's not part of the main story, but the fact remains that it's in the game for players to discover. and actually, i'm pretty sure the storyline in fontaine with vacher is part of the main story
Hmmm, I generally would agree with sentiment, I just feel the arguments were.... flat?
Genshin is for kids, but comparing Genshin to wuwa is wrong for reasons you did.
Wuwa is also for kids, sadly you cant see it yet, give it few months and you will see the same themes appear.
I would agree abt wuwa eventusllt after I got past act six of the story, shit gets dark pretty fast with an onscreen death and not like the magic "poof now fairy dust death"
That being said Genshin isn't inheritantly a childish game, but rather attracts a toxic childish audience
@@deformedchad8616 oh yeah, I don't even mean the story. Because if wuwa had the same story as Genshin it might as well be called Genshin2, it's not.
Wuwa is a different game, it has some same or similar systems, but having played it a bit, I feel that people that poke the hornet nest with comments like 'wuwa is genshin but better " only do it for drama.
@@Bezijenkins WuWa still targeting mature audience. Atleast they don't have bubble baby diapers. Even as a genshin player, it's the most cringe mechanic I have ever seen.
@@Shaphoenix Not really a Genshin issue, that's a China issue. If the game was made in Japan it probably would've been uncensored completely. Iirc China literally got pissed because of Venti.
@@zeyx3795 Who th cares? The global version is not under the China. They could able to less censor it if they wanted. That bubble diaper feels so awkward. Specially on male characters and small characters.
its kinda sad that genshin has great storys in world quests but they dont voice them so people just ignore, the narcissenkreuz quest could be a great quest to fill those dead patchs after the archon quest.
Def, personally it was the best questline in the game for me, even over the archon quests
Just because you ignore them, doesn't mean everyone does. I actually enjoy the world quest more than the archon quest. But I also come from the era when RPG didn't have any voice at all.
but will voiced world quest will add more storage though??
The aranara quest would of been 100x less tedious to do if it was voice. That shit was way too fucking long, just paragraphs on parragraphs of VOICELESS DIALOG. I thought i was going to snap. We couldn't even skip that shit bro
this was so funny to watch. Lots of good points made honestly; hard to deny that Hoyo avoids putting more mature content at the forefront of their game. The one thing I'd probably disagree with is comparing teletubbies theories w/ the side quests in Genshin, as in regards to teletubbies, its all just speculation from people poking fun at the show, and for Genshin, its content that hoyo has actually put into the game. So saying A = B feels pretty disingenuous, and a bit dismissive of the point Minsleif was trying to make. That being said though, a LOT of kids childrens games or games primarily targeted towards a younger audience have a LOT of mature themes in the background, and sometimes in the fore-front of their story. A better conparison than Teletubbies here would probably be Pokemon, since you really don't have to look THAT deep into the games to find some messed up lore, such as criminal groups harvesting Pokemon organs to make food sold to old rich people, or humans marrying pokemon. Despite all of this though, almost no one would argue that Pokemon is NOT a children's game.
Bro, Seriously everything that comes from Wuthering Waves is just Tectone milking the drama here and there. To the point it feels like Tower of Fantasy release are far more successfull than Wuwa. Game have nothing to showcase except the drama. ( Been watching everything related to Wuwa)
I don't think la signora death was supposed to be sad
It's sad for the simps lol
-This comes from me who read the story of PGR, HI3rd, FGO, Counterside, Reverse1999, HSR, GENSHIN and WuWa-
Let's all be real. You just tried so hard to make WuWa story looks goods by downplaying Genshin story as "baby game", and you're losing your argument but still forcing it to your community throat hoping they will spread it around. (And also, to farm money through this drama)
Listen man, try as hard as you can, but WuWa story is not good written enough due to massive story revamp in short time and rushed launch. Only act 5-6 is bearable and can be said as "good". But don't forget in Act 6, Jiyan just casually let an amnesia guy lead the army he loved like a family, A GUY HE JUST MET LESS THAN 5 MIN.
Now you wanna talk about Genshin censorship? Ever heard of CCP or game censorship in China? How many gacha games we play actually portray blood like nothing? And you're expecting that from a game that's made for everyone and casual gamers?
Plus, what kind of "baby" do you expect to understand anything about Inazuma politics? Or even spend HOURS into 1 act of Sumeru arc? Most of them already died burned out without actually understand or paying attention to the story. And how do you even explain the strong sexual implication in Li Yue's 2nd Act, of Ying Er's heavy dialogue implication on mas*turbation during potion making?
Tectone, you have no right to comment on Genshin story when most of the time you just watch summary on youtube without actually playing through the story yourself no matter what's your reason are.
And btw, your LOOOOVE HSR right? Should I also consider it as "Baby game" since there are Pom Pom and also that Clockie mickey mouse? They act cutesier, meant like doing it for kids way more than Paimon ever did in the past 4 years.
At the end, the conclusion is you can't tell the difference between "Casual game story" and "Children game story". Simple as that.
❤❤ I agree with you
Yeah I mean its when someone cant handle a neutral fight, they have to imagine their opponent weaker than them. Because if he was right, this mean he would have been fighting against babies for the past 4 years and this is concerning
Tectone is too narcissistic to admit that he’s wrong
Nice essay, but genshin is still a kids game. I don’t even watch this guy either so I have no bias in this situation lol.
@@revengeofthesith. Then give your counter statement, and not just come and say "It's a kid game" but then have no base logical statement behind it.
Knowing Mihoyo from their GGZ and early Honkai Impact days, Genshin was almost definitely not made for kids originally. But they probably had to tone things down due to their increasing popularity getting the attention of the CCP. I mean, look at the characters who got "new outfits" from censorship. You don't design characters like that if it's intended for kids, and even that is relatively tame compared to what they've done in the past. Hoyo likes making attractive women. If it were up to them, most of the characters would probably have half as much clothing as they currently do, lmfao.
But once they were forced to tone it down anyway, and with such a big, casual audience, they probably just said "eff it" and rolled with it and decided to go full casual and let the money flow in while doing the bare minimum.
People don’t realize that hatred is addictive, which is why he can’t stop yapping about genshin
so true
True but i could kindve understand his hate aswell.
Even assuming you dont care anymore about end game content or more complex mechanics, all the non-responsiveness and bread crumbing from hoyo makes it hard not to feel atleast slightly resentful.
Ask for custom loadouts for years and you get whatever their artifact selector was.
Ask for events with more variety and you get minigames
Ask for some adjustments to a severely underpowered character and you get radio silence lol.
Even the 3 year anniversary event felt like a troll until i actually looked st the live stream💀 3 wishes for 3 years huh😂 i got great mileage out of my 3 debate clubs lmfao
Im kindve bitter myself about being invested in building my characters as good as possible just to only have 36 stars on abyss and get 150 primos for it
it is not yapping , it is the truth about genshin .
@@daniyardaniel1755
He is yapping for views and money. And to much dismay it works because of drama.
@@DeeonleeCobb373 That is True above all other things for sure .
@Tectone My take: I do NOT believe Genshin impact is a game specifically made for children. I think it was made to appeal to an extremely wide demographic of casuals, casuals who’ve might not of even played a video game before. That’s why the “combat” is so lobotomizingly simple. It was the perfect starter game for the gargantuan amount of people that started getting into anime during the pandemic lock down, the perfect gateway to get into gaming for the people who didn’t own a console or a pc since it was so easily accessible being free and on mobile. I also find it hard to imagine that a game intended for specifically children would implement such prominent jiggle physics which HSR doesn’t even have. The Genshin impact story on occasion does tackle darker themes as well, it isn’t always all sunshine and rainbows at all times, but I digress. Why make a gacha game specifically for children? The whole point is to get you to spend money on characters. Why make a gacha game specifically for an audience who don’t even have any money to whale on characters? While I do believe Genshin tries to appeal to children in a lot of aspects, I highly doubt children were the only audience hoyo was trying to appeal to. But at the end of the day this is just my take, so take it how you will.
fr, Genshin is story-driven game while on the other hand, WuWa is battle-driven game with complex systems...
@@Aefenim I would say WuWa is also tryna achieve a story driven game with how they animate every important named character more body movement than the occasional hand gestures or change in expression like them actually moving during ingame dialogue or outside of cutscenes as opposed to genshin or star rails well hand gestures or change in facial expression.
Edit: Maybe 2.2 of HSR and Fontaine of Genshin added more expression but I haven't played it yet tbh.
@@Aefenim children prefer action over story lore when it comes to video games btw.
@@Raxio_ional It's not when the game is too complicated for their underdeveloped minds. But I will have to admit that WW's battle system is not that complex...
How many of you guys think that tectone going hate wuwa in a couple of years.
None of us but aight bet. Most hated genshin early on cuz of that garbage called paimon repeating stuff for children but aight
Years? Give it a few months
@@Kyle81290 won't happen, stop the cope
2 years and it'll be done.
The max he's going to play the game is 3months. Let's see how much he can tolerate after that.
Saw a 2000s Chinese children's book showing the classic story of Little Red Riding Hood, except in the end they cut open the big bad wolf, saved Little Red Riding Hood, stuff a bunch of rocks in the the wolf's stomach, then sewn it back up. Wolf later drowned because he fell into a lake and was too heavy to stay afloat due to all the rocks. Of course the book did not depict any of the gruesome scenes and only said so in text, but on the last page the wolf was depicted to be drowning in a lake as the other characters point at him from shore and laughs. Pretty dark stuff.
always hatin on genshin but cant stop talking about it. he mentions genshin in all his videos its crazy
It gives him views
A lot of children's shows/movies usually include jokes/easter eggs that only adults would catch onto. Just cause it has those things doesn't change the target audience for adults. It about how it presents itself and Genshin presents itself for children.
Archon quest wasn't easter egg though. And many story is just straightforward with strong sexual implication and voice directing such as Ying Er potion making in 2nd act of Genshin or Focalor being destroyed under guilitone as sacrifice. And the way Signora got slain, disintegrated without ashes remain by Raiden is still just as tragically impactful even without blood. Oh ya, also the cutscene of Adepti slaughtering each other with actual blood present. At that point, there is just no way you can ever call it a kid game ever again.
@@FireBlueZ And there is no way you can ever call it a game for adults either.
You yourself described the Ying Er scene as an implication. If it were for adults it would be more explicit.
Focalor's and Signora's death is not this brutal moment like you hype it up to be. Signora turns into flame embers after a flash of lightning engulfs her, all without her screaming in pain. The camera even cuts away from Focalor when the sword drops onto her so you dont see anything.
As for that adepti scene, I have no recollection of it as its been a year or so since I've last played but lets say it is how you describe it. That single scene is not representative of how the game is in its entirety. If the majority of Genshin is like how you describe this scene of characters brutally slaughtering each other then I would agree but its not, not on a surface level that is which was my point.
At best you could say the game is for teenagers.
@@ieatice I think Ying Er scene is already explicit enough. You should rewatch it to understand what I mean. But ya you're not wrong, this game isn't made for adult either, it's made for everyone.. That is over 16 years old.
I dont understand why it matters which game is more "mature." I feel like the only reason people even point out a game being "childish" is 100% to belittle the people who play it. 90% of the time you talk about Genshin, it just sounds like your bitter about the game.
So wuwa has sexual content, gore scenes, and dark story in the main story? I must've been playing an early version of wuthering waves or something 😂
actually closed beta was much darker 😭
Problem is not the game is made for kids...... problem is the devs treating the player base like kids
It goes both ways, like paimon tf is that garbage calamity. The story is fine, the combat is easy so obv a kid can win, it's just a casual game. But the problem is that these genshin shills thinks WuWa is the game for kids.
Events, how devs treats their players with garbage rewards yet players don't care, why ? Cuz their life depends on genshin and therefore will attack anyone who goes against someone speaking the truth.
tectone trying not to mention genshin - impossible challenge
Free content, make genshin shills angry = win-win
@@mordy2085it also gives Genshin more publicity and more money meaning they don’t have to change anything so there’s no competition with other games
@@sittingcrowd912 money where, have you seen twitch charts lol.
@@sittingcrowd912 not even twitch, Google trend period. It's on the low
@@mordy2085 lower viewers on twitch doesn’t matter when people are still playing the game. HSR isn’t too high on twitch either and yet look where it’s at.
there are dark stuff in pokemon for god sake. but you cant sit here and argue that pokemon is an adult game
I’m just waiting for you to take back what you said about WW music being better than Genshin’s…maybe then I can take you more seriously about your Genshin opinions 😆
After the 4.7 natlan trailer, this makes sense.
Lol Natlan is preparing for Azur promilia. They never think wuwa as competition 😂😂😂
@@Lord_Genesis_ typical genshintard right here
@@ilovealmondtofu4726 Yeah and you are typical Tectone baby🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Lord_Genesis_ thats true
Compair tof with wuwu instead of genshin impact@@ilovealmondtofu4726
Tech. I think you fell off the cliff with this one.
I can accept that it's for teens, but kids is a far stretch. Include an age group. My 6-year-old doesn't understand it enough to play. You could say that most Genshin players act like kids.
Teens are still kids....
Japanese anime is for teens+ and it contains sexual themes, gore, violence and very dark themes sometimes.
Genshin Impact is a child-friendly game intended to hook kids on the gacha system and get them to transition to other games and spend more.
Let's be honest,
Seems more like what it's advertised for, 12 year olds and up. It definitely does feel like that to a certain degree
@@nassie5282 Not in all in all countries. In the US 18 and 19 you're considered and adult. Well, young adult.
@@terrormansakata9626 Bro a 10 years old kid IS a kid wdym
Sure Genshin is more aimed towards younger audiences, but the combat is pretty much the same. If people think WuWa’s combat is hard then they have skill issues
😂 compared to genshin. C'mon now the same stop it.
@@sadiejohn7753 yeah they’re both super easy to play and require almost no effort to be good at
Nah nothing will ever be as effortless and neuvilette, Zhong li, and hyperbloom. If you think that those 2 are comparable and as interactive as a game with parrying, proper dodging with bullet time, I want what you’re smoking.
@@GameSteph I mainly play MonHun and souls games so these games are easy imo, haven’t had anything that posed a challenge yet in WuWa but we’ll see if that changes in future updates. Also I don’t play Neuvillette or Zhongli since I find them boring to play I mainly use Hu Tao and Wanderer, sometimes Aloy for fun. But I don’t think it really matters it’s just my thoughts and I’m still gonna be playing both games anyways
This kid keeps proving the people right. If he claims it is a game for children, he has never paid attention to the lore. Oh wait right, the mods play it for him.
I love how he said the darker themes are hidden so children playing the game won't notice them, only to prove he didn't either.
@@stryfer1989 Thats true, very ironic xD He is basically showing how he has a childish mindset, which is why he is unable to grasp the deeper story or dark themes.
Guess he doesn't get what the word ''reach'' means. The game can avoid obvious things that would increase its rating thus cutting exponentially their player base and income. It is a smart move from them to do this, this way the game is accessible for way more ages, while still delivering on the mature themes in a ''subtle'' way.
Ya know. After seeing this video. It really sums up the whole thing about Genshin. It's really, in fact, a kids game.
As with previous comments and debates, I have. Yes, the lore will have some dark elements, such as the ANIME (which BTW will cover the dark themes of genshin upfront. Which is what genshin could have been in that structure)
And the short clips we get on UA-cam, which do, in fact, show more mature themes (Blood. Strong language, etc)
In comparison to the game.
So yes, the game is very kid friendly, but the anime and clips are definitely not kid friendly.
I feel tecton has got some trauma with genshin, it seems genshin has done something to him for this horrific trauma. He needs some serious therapy.
Nah he needs ppl to make free content saying bs like you
Facts (1) Tectone is the linchpin of gacha drama (2) This video is targeted on Genshin fan-base to aggro views (3) Tweet is a valid opinion of the game but w/ the intent to "emphasize" people playing it are kids (4) The comment is valid and sound at least to people w/ the capacity to think NORMALLY (5) I agree w/ most of your opinion regardless of your person but let's be real, you need THERAPY. Finding entertainment in chaos is NOT NORMAL.
This is a very true take honestly. I will add, however, that i have a very mentally and physically draining job, and i can very much appreciate having a cozy, adhd-pilled game i can unplug my brain to at the end of the day. Kids' content is not *bad* content and can be entertaining and enjoyable to adults as well. Bluey is a shining example of that.
Is bluey for everyone? No. Is genshin for everyone? Definitely not. But it has helped me calm down from many stressful days over the years. Do i wish there was some more Grit in there? Sure. I love the drama, But i also appreciate wandering around doing baby puzzles for free dopamine after a hard day more than i dislike the pulled punches scattered around.
I mean the same argument about it being made for a younger audience could be made for Breath of the Wild and the Mario games and they can be pretty fun even as an adult. Heck sometimes (with Zelda in specific) they even tackle more serious themes and circunstances in between just look at Majora's Mask or the Shadow Temple in OoT). A simplistic gameplay loop is not necessarily a detriment and in some cases it can help the game. And even then people find ways to make a simplistic system take skill and thinking on a very simple game at the surface. It's why i love speedruns and challenge runs from such games. In a more crude term it "puts skill in a skilless game" so to say which i find pretty neat.
And like you said sometimes you just want that quick dopamine after a hard day at work. It's why playing stuff like Animal Crossing or Minecraft for that matter after a hard day can be quite relaxing. I say people should just play what they wanna play be it Dark Souls or Wind Waker. Being made for a younger audience doesn't necessarily make a game unfun as an adult.
Yo. I agree with you for the most part, but "WuWa is made for adult" is also kinda wrong. WuWa dialogues are mostly childish, Scar part was dark but Genshin also have something like that. The only thing that I think kids won't enjoy WuWa is maybe combat (?), but that doesn't even so complex and hard either. So...idk about bring WuWa to this argument.
Also, there aren't even blood or death in WuWa yet.
An entire village eradicated? Multiple people died on screen as well
@@Theblecquetzal So do genshin, that is my point. But if you are talking about that one npc dead, it's barely did any impact to the story.
That teletubby comparison is dishonest and bs, conspiracy is different from actual, readable, comprehensive lore
I believe the same thing, it's a children's game.
And the massive censorship proves it.
It's just china being china
idk what parts are censored because of politics but some of it does have to be due to the restrictions placed by the CCP, not because of the target audience
@clouds570 they literally tried to censor xiaos tattoos
@@novu6196not really HSR is alot less censored, even the bluring thing is less. Hell honkai impact is 17+ cause of straight up anime chicks with bouncing tits in revealing clothes whooping ass and showing theirs half the time
Then wuwa and hsr are children’s games too I guess
i mean of course genshin is targeted towards a younger audience, but is he arguing that wuthering waves or honkai star rail isnt? Because they are just as bad?
Genshin is like teaching numbers to kids, the emphasis in fights is much more on the big colorful screen consuming numbers rather than the character movements and combat mechanics 9/10 times.
Heck even my daughter who was around 5 back when Genshin released loved the game because it was really colorful, she knows what element made the attack just by the color of the numbers, white for physical, blue for hydro, yellow for geo etc. so I agree with Teccy with this one
Lil bro is still dead set on taking more people from genshin to wuwa lol (he calls himself mature btw). When will he learn that what's done is done, people who were willing and ready to go are already gone to wuwa. Now he is simply increasing the flames of this war which is totally unnecessary. Just play what you want that's it. We have money lil bro, those who are staying have already spent money on our beloved characters we ain't going nowhere.
That "LIL BRO" alone speaks on how old you are lol.
@@markjosephhuerno3391im 21 and currently pursuing computer science and I have a life unlike y'all who act like your life depends on a fucking game. And oh yea, 'lil bro' is a non-aggressive way of calling someone out.
And sorry that my dad is rich and I get a pretty good monthly allowance which I don't spend on doing drugs but spend it on a game. Lol
@@sodaplease no way your bringing career to win an an argument, now that's even more childish than saying lil bro, like holy fuck "sorry my dad is rich and giving me good allowance" 😭
@@markjosephhuerno3391 lil bro thinks I'm arguing with him who complains about me using 'lil bro' because he can't find anything else to complain about in my comment. Lol
You think too highly of yourself. If you really thought i was arguing with you or have any need to play a part in your petty lil war of games, then hell nah im good as a bystander.
Also I brought the carriar thing up coz you were indirectly calling me a child but ofcourse what do i even expect from someone who argues over a game.
@@sodaplease Cause 21 year old peeps don't talk like that lol, my nephew is literally 13 years old and I keep hearing lil bro everytime he talks to his friends, Hahaha And I'm sure 21 year olds are more level headed and will not immediately go passive aggressive when they are called out. That's a childish behavior.. more embarrassing if you're truly 21.☝️🤓
genshin lives rent free in this guy's head twenty four seven
That's how he gets money, you numbnut. Dude needs an income
@@saltykitty9215well he's rage baiting and OP is pissing on his clown ass as intended by the clown
All is going to plan, not sure whats there to complain about
I wouldn't call it a kids game at all but its a super simple easy game so I can understand the comparison. Not a fan of peeps saying a game being simple and colorful makes it for kids because its why our gov think anything animation related is for kids when things like Hazbin hotel Family Guy and South Park exist which are absolutely not for kids.
I expected Natlan will be the dark side of the Genshin, i thought we will see a completely destroyed land with constant war going on and there will be epic looking dragons clashing each other or something. Then i saw that teaser with pokemon-like bullshit and completely lost my passion about the game. Ive played this game since release and i think its a good time to say goodbye to it.
I usually agree with baldy man..
But holy shit this is just pure cope at this point
I almost never agree with him but for once he's mostly right lol. Although I wouldn't call it "game for kids", but "game specifically designed to be played by kids too". And I'm yet to see differences between Genshin and WW he keeps talking about except combat being more fun and fast paced. It's equally as easy, mechanics are almost irrelevant cause combat is mash button, and SO FAR there is absolutely nothing particularly dark and adult happening
Yeah, I would say more aimed at weebs, thats why you got adults and teens alike who play the game. If it were a kids game there wouldn't be so much reading and milfs.
Put dark Souls and genshin side by side...
You will get your answer :)
The thing is the way they tell the story is family friendly. The darker sides of the story are mostly implied or hidden in nonvoiced quest, readables and artifacts/weapon lore. And there are a lot of players who enjoy this kind of story telling including myself.
@@Hey_i_am_A-Dwhat is this comparison meant to do? I'm genuinely asking btw.
Pokemon is the exact same. The games have dark lore in them if you bother to look at pokedex entries in the games. But the target demographic for pokemon is children. However, adults can enjoy the games as well, and there is nothing wrong with that.
It being child friendly and being a children’s game are two different things imo. They managed to capture a huge audience of teenagers, but Its core audience is and always will be young adults with jobs
Cuz that’s who’s spending
Teccy YOU ARE WRONG, there i said it (mostly cuz i want to see how someone can force me to listen to paimon for 12h but details) +genshin is made for kids AND adults that actualy like to get deep into the story. I do agree that the events are mostly made for kids and the gameplay is so hard that a braindamaged monkey can do with enough time invested BUT the story of gensin if you bother to actualy read everything (even the boring things) is actualy pretty dark behind the sparkly front thats presented if you just speedrun everything. And honestly even tho its intended to appear as a kids game as you say im decently sure the ending of the story will have plenty of messed up sh*t that arent as easily hidden as most things so far.
Comparing telebubbies dark fan lore to genshin's ingame lore is just disingenuous and rude to minsleif.
I an kid agree with you tbh I like color and like no blood cause a lot blood gives me nightmares unfortunately. 😅 (thankfully I don't think the characters are real)
Aint no way bro pulled up with a teletubby counter argument. Blud officialy lost it lol.
(please note this is sarcasm, I dont want to be made an example of by baldemort)
Its a valid point tho..many kids shows or stuff like those have a very dark lore which u wont be able to notice if u just take it at face value
@@gamespremier7179 nah man that shi is just conspiracy theories, right?
@@The.best.chess.player some are very much real..like the kids show doraemon is a very fun show even i used to watch..but its lore is about how a teenage boy was suffering with lonliness created a completely imaginary friend called "Doraemon" and when his parents took him to the doctor he was told his imaginary friend wasent real..so he took his own life by shooting himself in the head with a gun
damn
Saying WuWa is for adults is quiet wrong and it may probably take you as long as in Genshin to realize it's also for kids. Like it's also +13 rated game with no blood scenes or even suggestive themes of "T" rated level let alone the real things of the "M" rated level. You should accept both GI and WuWa are targeted for everyone.
Hmm.. a colourful game doesn't make it a children game though. A light hearted story also doesn't make it targetted for children. The children in CN can't even play the game properly due to limitations lol. So I think I have to disagree that children is hoyoverse's targetted audience. :)
Oh.. guess what? WuWa upcoming event is a race minigame, probably to collect coins and carnival-like. The one you said genshin has for "children". 😅
"all of that is in the background" signora getting killed by raiden, nahida getting imprisoned as soon as she was born and used for their purposes, wanderer wanting to kill himself, dottore killing and framing wanderers friend after mass murder, the literal hydro archon killing herself all of this on cutscenes on the msq, we still pretending only side quests have dark stuff? lmao.
I hope Genshin is still around the day I have kids of my own at an age where they can play Genshin. I can't wait for them to experience the one game that has been with me for the past 3 going on to 4 years. I play when there is content, I log off when there isn't any and it works with my busy schedule. Lots of ups and downs, calling it whatever you like is never going to change my experience. I hope one day the community/players mature enough to understand that someone else's experience and views about something has no dictation of their own. A children's game will be my children's game one day, or maybe Genshin Impact 2.
acting like you gon have kids
@@Impalling lmao more like restraining from having any atm
I'd never let my kids play genshin. Don't want them to get bullied 😂
@@bepo1702 from who?
@@TiredOfFeelings anyone who finds out
17:17, Nahhh if you are a lore skipper go play Wuwa, and if you are here for the lore or stories, go play Genshin, it's that simple
17:45 For me the line "Their aiming at very different people", is Wuwa is aiming for lore skippers and Genshin is for lore enjoyers
We can actually spot people what games they like and don't🫤
Lmao, why is the basis, combat if it is for adults?
Most kids are better at videogames than we are mate. Both Genshin and Wuwa targets kids as well.
Genshin with its vibrant colors then wuwa with its flashy combat that u just have to sometimes die 2-5 times to get the timings in.
I really agree with minsleif in this. Genshin is not necessarily meant for kids, but it is presented in such a way. Some of the things you directly look at are pretty simple ie the enemies are easy to beat etc etc. But tectone saying that you really have to look deep to find the dark lore isnt correct here. You literally have to complete the sunchildren quest in order to explore enkanomiya. That quest in quite dark. I didnt have to reas lots of in game books to find that out.
The tsurumi island quest is also quite dark but its necessary in order to remove the fog so you have to see the dark stuff in order to unlock a cettain area.
Then theres the dainsleif quest which contains some really dark stuff. The wriothesly world quest etc.
Of course, having dark themes doesnt exclude it from being children centred. Lots of dark tales have been told to children in the past. But saying that you really have to look for the dark part is inaccurate
Though im aware that tectone doesnt like reading through unvoiced dialogue which many share the same opinion otherwise there wouldnt be many complaints about the aranara quest to begin with. But still, its important to put all things into perspective
Fan theories eg in teletubbies isnt equal to a game that openly shows the dark themes if you read through the dialogue
Tectone does say that its not in the forefront, but the dainsleif quest begs to differ. The quest keeps getting darker as time goes on, like the fact that the people in khanreah were wiped out simply for not worshiping the archons and believing in their ability to rule themselves, then they were turned into hilichurls who we fight every day as mobs. We've seen the caribert plot and the backstory of various characters etc. Its not that hard to find these dark themes. I personally like genshin because of the lore. Because no matter what tectone says, its really good. Not just the archon quest, but other stuff as well. I watch guys like minsleif and murderofbirds because of this stuff
To be honest, honkai star rail is way more children centered than genshin since it doesnt have as many prevalent dark themes as genshin.
However, tectone approaches this game from a gamer stand point, not as a reader and such. Thats why he skips the voiced dialogue and thats entirely fine. You enjoy the game as you want to and if you dont, thats fine. For my case, i enjoy genshin coz of the lore and star rail a bit more because its more fun to play. So im more of a hardcore gamer in star rail than genshin since its harder to explore and do genshin than it is to do star rail. And if thats the perspective that tectone comes with, thats entirely fine. Im just saying all this to put it into perspective.
Playing genshin and being told its a children's game is essentially saying that anime is for kids. Which is why anime was frowned upon when we were younger. I mean, the goofy animation eg in one piece and the fact that its animated in the first place gives the impression that its "for kids" but once you look into it and watch some more variety etc, youll be able to see that its much more than that. That anime has its own genres, some of which are not aimed for kids. Also, adult content doesnt only revolve around sex, gore and stuff but also around mature themes that kids shouldnt be exposed to. Genshin has plenty of that and if you just play the game not for the combat alone and read the text on screen, youll just see that
TLDR: genshin's dark themes arent hidden, they are present in the world and are sometimes compulsory to do in order to explore the areas on the map and get character building materials etc etc. But you wont experince it if you skip all invoiced dialogue.
Genshin gameplay is alot more boring if you approach it from a gamer standpoint as tectone does. Star rail is way more fun in this case, which is why i play it more often than genshin. Coz doing stuff in that game is just more fun than it is for genshin.
So lore enjoyers and gamers have a different experince with the game. One obviously sees how complex the story is while the other only notices how boring the combat is and tectone should consider this before calling the game objectively bad
Mature story themes: absolutely present and is in the forefront of you really care to understand the content in the game(isnt 2%as tectone says but more of about 70% as mentioned above)
Mature gaming themes(difficult bosses and endgame content): abysmal, not present at all
Bro selling Wuwa so hard, they need to sponsor this man
He's contracted
The only “dark” quest for me was both Tighnari’s story quest and the Fontaine quest and that’s it. Wanderer’s was okay but it was still not as dark as it could have been
Natlan peek proves that genshin impact isn't a game with mature theme. It's for fonta
I miss the day before 4.0. At sumeru teaser I saw a vast jungle that I want to explore. At fontaine teaser I wanted to live there.
In Natlan teaser, when I saw that I have to play as baby dragon, I saw a game for kindergarten
@@seungjoonkin8970 hahaha.... For me it's utter disappointment, i was literally waiting for natlan ,NATION OF WAR, for 4 years. 🤣And we get nation of orange juice.
Lol you shit then what is Azur promilia then when Azur promilia comes wuwa will be same as TOF(Hope it survives that long😂😂).
Natlan trailer tells me they are preparing to compete with Azur promilia because Wuwa is shit 😂😂😂
Some people called fontaine a desney land when they saw the first teaser, but if we look back to Fontaine quests
Act 1 : An assassination attempt one character crashed by water tank and another one got dissolved and both were on screen
Act 2 : The serial murder case
Acts 3 and 4 : we go to prison, and I recommend you to do wriothesley story quest or watch the summary on UA-cam to see how horrible the situation was there.
Act 5 : There was a whale that wanted to devour the people of fontaine because there is a primordial sea water in their blood, and at the end, the hydro archon offed herself to save everyone.
Natlan being colorful doesn't mean everything is ok there.
QED why I am not in any way excited for Natlan. Fontaine was the peak.
Genshin Impact is just a game for casual players and played in really relaxing manners, So i think this game is for 7+ above and could be meant for kids so i am 100% agree with Tectone
I think most of the things you suggested as "these are reasons why GI is aimed at kids" are them adhering to the rules that worldwide games(and sometimes games made in China) have to adhere to in order to meet certain criteria for available in China. The fact that WuWa managed to get away with more without hitting the country's censorship(which from what I know can be completely arbitrary on who they enforce on or not) is actually pretty impressive, but also risky and I think Hoyo just leaned toward more security so they wouldn't be punished later. Especially after it got as big as it did.
What "more" did Wuwa get away with? It's just as much of a "baby" game in his words. Just because the world is a little less colorful in some places?
Wuwa didn’t get away with anything the ccp is strict with tho? No gore, no in game blood (trailers don’t count), dead bodies aren’t gruesome, and they clothing is actually in the tamer side for a gacha
GI actually has pull a thing most Chinese would had considered censor before : ghosts .
I fully agree as a AR60, lore lover
Genshin is and will always be a child targeted game, I love it and the lore is deep enough to keep me interested
However wuthering is everything Genshin can't be and better
I'm not saying stop playing genshin.... But as an adult it's undeniable
Mihoyos slogan WAS "tech otakus save the world" yet they don't listen to there communities
Let us skip the fucking dialog please.... Please
I was ar 58 and yes, I moved on since the game was just so boring and no challenge were present. The lame rewards, paimon, no skip button and boring world and very bad exploration system.
Compared to WuWa it's night and day, I'm just so adducted and playing way more than genshin when it released.
People just can't accept the fact that other people prefer WuWa to genshin, they're that parasocial.
Saying this is objectively true is a dumb statement
tbh addressing the story for children argument, something like lion king as an example might be more appropriate because you know the kid witness his dad died in front of his eyes. Something as dark as that exist in stories for children. And also Genshin's age rating is PEGI-12 when I look it up on Google so it all make sense.
They had a chance to actually spice up the content in the "Nation of War" yet they went full Pokémon
I was hoping that Natlan will be like Khorne world from warhammer where the clans fight each other to worship the archon... but we have children pokemon instead
they made fontaine look like a cartoon, cute region in trailer as well, but it turned out to be most savage and ruthless region
@@bumerang6525 subverting expectations at its finest.
I realized genshin was for children when paimon tells you what you JUST HEARD seconds ago like its Dora or Blues Clues. Also when that black screen with white text pops up and stays for 20+ seconds when any adult with a functioning brain can read it 2 seconds. WuWa should not have copied that tbh
the life of tectone: criticize genshin every day. bro you have WUWA leave us alone with genshin, we understand you hate the game. but hey since WUWA doesn't make you see you continue to go down genshin great you have life
Your previous comments was cringe, so your opinion is dismissed, I’m sorry
I would say Genshi is made for Teens but a large amount of its' player base are kids so they have incorporated many kid friendly elements (Piamon becoming more child like and basically handhold you through the story is a good example of that). You can't say that the Artifacts system is Kid friendly. I have a friend who is a grown adult who didnt watch any UA-cam videos. The guy had Deluc with Noel best in slot 4 Star Sword while run Wondering Troup with Instructor pieces. That was his best built character. This guy had 100% map and Quest completion. He could not pass Spiral Abyss 10 and has never 36 star the content. I of course explain how the system works and his account doing much better but this guy had all the 5 stars in the game with some signature weapons. He wasnt a wale. Just stupid lucky.
Large base players are 21- 30+ though
@@FireBlueZ Agreed. but based on how the content is currently being done. The company most likely have a younger audience as their main player base. Hence why the content is mostly catered toward them.
genshin is not for kids,and here is why. A company who specifically designs a gacha game, isn't looking to design it for a kids audience cause well here the the kicker..... they don't have jobs yeah. So it makes sense for them to target a more mature audience cause guess what thats where the $$$ is at.
Pssst.Let him be in his crazed reality where there are only two rules: $1 Tectone is right, §2 If Tectone is not right it's automatically §1. This guys a clown.
From the second I hopped on genshin for the first time years ago I immediately got the sense that GI was intended for a younger audience that doesn’t mean the game is bad I still enjoy and play it to this day if anyone was around for the PS2, GameCube, and even original Xbox era when I was really young there were a lot of games intended for a younger audience that had more mature themes, dialogue, and storyline elements sprinkled in here and there to provide some shock value or even comedic relief at times to the younger audience and a lot of those older games had even more edgy things in them than GI does and they were considered kids games so I’m not quite sure what so many people are upset about it changes nothing if you enjoy the game you enjoy the game that’s all that matters
13:10 There has never been a documented case of a child hurt by poison or razors in Halloween candy. It’s a big myth.
There were one pretty sure back in the late 1900s.
hmm, just to make sure...we better keep our children home, put them in front of a TV and pray they don't get autism
-signed, boomer helicopter parent
@@Bronan2920 yeah, from 0.006% area of a country, does that size make it that relevant? no.
@@Bronan2920 it was the kids own father that poisoned his child with the candy but there is never been a case where a stranger is done it to a child
@@aaronlinford8671 yes but well that is still a case
Tectone is using Tectone for content. 😂
Big brain moves.
This man is coping so hard it’s getting sad.
It feels like Tec needs to talk about genshin every day of his life just to prove to himself that he is right in not playing it.
You don’t need an 18 minutes analysis of the game to explain why isn’t as good as your new game. Which is not as “mature” and “adult” and grown-up as your new game. That’s pure cringe.
Just move on dude. If you were really over this you wouldn’t be talking about it. You sound like the guy that keeps talking about his ex while he hangs with his date; It’s honestly sad to look at, and makes your new relationship (or in this case, the new game you are advocating for) terrible. WuWa feels literally like rebound sex for gamers, and I think it’s not the game’s faults but the obnoxious community of bitter former genshin players that are ruining the experience for me and most of the more casual players.
This video was an absolute joke, and a sad one at that. I remember when I thought you were actually fun and entertaining, I miss those days. Please stop sparkling controversies just to stay relevant, just go back to being good at what you do and enjoying it.
He's constantly going on about how he's living rent free in genshin players heads when its clearly the opposite.
I think the "Pokemon Mystery Dungeon" series does darkness in children targeted games right. Especially "Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Gates to Infinity", which was so good I actually suspect it to be a least a little bit of a social commentary about society. But the maturity rating of games like "Genshin Impact" cripple how intense their darkness can be, and only makes their story suffer. It happened to "Naruto", and it's happening to Genshin.
There are innuendos in children’s cartoons. Just saying. Disney princess films have some sinister shit too in the story at the forefront, but still targeted at kids.