Start at minute 7 to avoid to avoid the Hollywood preface. Then its a couple of 3 thousand year old burials and several of burials from the era at or just after the close of the Roman Empire in Britain.
I agree! there's so much focus on the elite 0.0001% of the population where as finds like this yield so much more of the important information on what people's lives were actually like. These 5 skeletons are the real treasure! Thanks Dr. Russell!
VRJensen1 its also a matter of materials...elites often used materials which survive much better in the archaeological record and they are indicative for the social powerstructure at the time. Its not just status bias of archaeologists (though the general public clearly can be accused of this). Its also what is available to understand anything about the period under investigation. Russels remark that these people saw, during their lives, how England got involved in a Mediterranean superpower, is only provable via an effort devoted entirely to elites. In fact writing itself (the definition of what makes history) was initially an elite bussiness. Moreover, the main problem interrogating these same sceletons, mentioned here, is for a large part precisely due to their relatively low status. So please dont blame the archaeologists here...Too much that is....
@@pergamonrecordings I agree and it's hard to get money for doing the archeology from the public if your doing your dig on a well known spoil midden. Universities want digs that get their name out to the public. So another words if you think you know exactly where Alexander the Great's tomb is located in Alexandria you will have unlimited funds for the dig. (And have permission from the Egyptian Ministry of Antiquities but that's another story :-(l)
I think Indiana Jones' character was probably based on Giovanni Belzoni, an Italian tomb raider (explorer/archaeologist) of the early 1800s. Having said that, Jones was my hero before I learned the reality of being an archaeologist. Many of our ilk have actually thrived on the slightest adventure! I've occasionally also dealt with suspicious locals who thought we must be digging up gold treasures during the night while in the day we only found useless old bones and broken potsherds... lol!
Lajwanti Shahani the "mysteries" of the Seapeople (Nancy Sanders) did it for me when I was 17..even though I now (30 years later) doubt there were any and feel that the catagory was just an Egyptian way to reconstruct reality after a serious disrubtion of their symbolic consepts of power and the "other" -- serious pressiure on their borders, the fall of Hatti etc.) Often the attraction of mysteries will lead to lifelong effords to demystify them:-))
pergamonrecordings you should watch/hear another archaeologist Eric Cline break down the "sea peoples" of Ramses III's Egypt. He breaks it down very systematically. But that is the beauty of this field - demystifying and breaking down stuff which has been raised to mythical proportions. A lifetime of fascination :D
Lajwanti Shahani Oeff I dont want to start a discussion:-) but the approach of Eric Cline is precisely far from helpfull in my eyes...:-)) and in a way epitomizes the problem of US anti-imperialist self indentification. It causes many American historians to leave aside the wisdoms leaned in postcolonialism, because they consider themselves a victim, not a perpretrator of colonial thinking. His makes their views naively hellenophile in the case of the Aegean, which in the case of Cline even resulted in him speaking of a "Mycenaean nationality" after which I lost all hopes for him;-)))...
Did I miss something? Did the speaker ever mention how these five skeltons could 'change archeology'? All I heard was a comparison and contrast of Hollywood archeology to the real thing.
'Alter our understanding of dark age Britain' would be a better description than ''change archaeology' but then it probably wouldn't fit as a title. Of more concern to me was the dismissiveness he displayed toward the Staffordshire Hoard. A great deal of information has been gleaned from the 3500 pieces of the hoard. And while the hoard may represent only one percent or so of the population the suggestion that it represents only 0.00001% (if I counted the nines properly) or LESS of the population is ignorant as that implies a population of 10 MILLION people in a single dark ages British Kingdom (fully a sixth of the island's current inhabitants) even if all the pieces belonged to a single man. And the presence of two or three gold crosses and a gold strip inscribed with a quotation from the book of numbers does at least suggest the answer to his question about what their religion was.
awesome! id love to be an archeologist! it has been a dream since i was a small girl to do what this man is doing. Anthropology and archeology are fascinating
I heard it takes about 17 years to become an archeologist like Dr. Miles here. It's not really 17 years of schooling per say but 17 years of hard work, of being a lap man for an archeologist like Dr. Miles. Working beside him at a dig, going back and writing papers about the dig. Getting to know the people who fund these digs. Being sponsored by a school or someone like Dr. Miles. It's hard, and most people quit before they get there. So you end up working in the field, by doing a million other things that need to be done such as cleaning the things coming out of the ground. There are artists that draw the things coming out of the ground. There's just a million little things that need to be done behind the scenes.
The title is click-bait. Thought I was going to hear some amazing discovery but all it was was a very interesting lecture on archaeology. Not sorry I viewed it but don't like being tricked.
lol i love how people take clickbait literal I meeeeean if you see a tabloid paper "johnny deep and amber heard just had an alien baby" it's probably not literally true?
10:52 Depending on if there were actually defensive injuries found, I think the holes the persons’ skull could possibly have been caused by the attempt to relieve some sort sickness. That specific practice is called trepanation (and it was practiced anciently). (edited)
The shaffordshire hoard (I love these English designators) IS archaeology as it tells us the taste and means of elites, which ulitimately tells us something about the way they legitimated their power symbolically, AND economically. This is not to say that Russel's somewhat polemic argument would be unhelpful -- it is important that the general public understands the issues at hand -- but he uses the populist argument of the "common people" which in archaeology often can only be defined by it's inversion: metal using (archaeologically survivable materials) using, elites
Thanks , I also am interested in what has been going on in the last 10 thousand years. It's now 2022 and we are finding out even more about people and earth.
Long build up but that was good. Thanks. I would like to politely argue that it's just how the poor lived (I'm currently living in my truck) ie poor. But also how the rich liver. Its the whole picture that counts. While i completely agree that the majority will hold more data as there numbers always seem to far outweigh the rich that we find again its the whole picture that paints an accurate archeological picture of the past. One may hold more data but that does not mean the other isnt archeological.
My memory is a little fuzzy but I think the intro scenes of the movie were of a temple not a tomb, hence the golden idol on an altar. And the Indiana Jones series isn't held out as a model for current archaeology but rather as a commentary on the methods of the past. It's clearly set in the 'Wild West' period of the field.
Just wondering, can anyone anywhere be a "TED lecturer"? The standards were once fairly high - well-known experts in the field or up and coming young people with new ideas. Now it seems it's anyone who can get a few dozen folks to watch their spiel for a few minutes
Other civilians or The military that put the risen deadthings back? I think that was a very intriguing Freudian slip. I would like to get him a wee bit tipsy and see what he may add to that line of chatter.
Yes, the title is very misleading. I don't have that much time to get through so many videos to find what I'm after. The audience shows who this was for. An introduction to show archeology isn't what the media portrays it. Worth and value are really much the same - or even opposite what he says. He means 'monetary' value or 'fame' or 'hype' as opposed to data, real information or truth.
saying gold treasure is not archeology but art history because it's not about regular ppl is moronic. Who does he think produced those items? There were no nobles gathering gold ore I'm sure. No kings smelting gold, no queens spinning golden thread for embroidery
Agreed Plonker. Linear Vision. Non Celt. Celtic Christanity came DIRECT from middle east. Galatians 3.1 came from Gaul. Abaris druid from Isle Skye visited Pythagoris in Athens. Isle of Man was international free trading port + exchanged acknowledge. Seas WERE the highways. What anglo dribble. As usual.
PS Celts call Youesua Isa Moslems call him Iosia or similar in Persian. Romans basturdised this with story of Mithrias. Hence Roman Viking Crusaders 10 years after Orthodox split from Eastern flank.
So if you try and dig up Fred at the local cemetery you will go to Gaol. Yet if the graves are hundreds or more years old you are allowed to pull them apart and put them in a museum? :/
Prehistory into history when the Romans invaded????? He is not an archaeologist if he thinks that history only really started then. There is now so much more knowledge than 20 years ago.
8:35 "what was life expectancy in the past" Sorry, but anatomical "age" or "aging processes" are not identical to age. I have been homeless for 13 years, and have probably in part an anatomical age which went up 26 years. In other words, you can only measure how far the aging process is gone. But this depends on other factors than how old (in actual years) someone was when dying. This is for instance why some have (before Neanderthal DNA was analysed) speculated that Neanderthals could be post-Flood patriarchs living into several hundreds - because one thing aging does under certain circumstances is thicken bones. You cannot take this as a conclusive clue as to age when dying unless you have conclusive evidence of how sturdy the body was to begin with (we are less so than psot-Flood patriarchs who were less so than pre-Flood patriarchs) or what amount of toil someone faced in daily life (skeleta of 60 individuals from Anglo-Saxon period of England said none to have reached 50 could have done less work than the Wild West Farmers of known ages that they were compared to).
Good point about aging. While most of my bones would likely match my age, I still have baby teeth decades after they should be gone. I am also still waiting for a couple of wisdom teeth to come up.
Archeologists are walking in the dark as long as they ignore ancient texts, like the Indian Mahabharata and the Mayan Popol Vuh, that tell us that the Earth suffers from a cycle of seven natural disasters. Those disasters are causing massive floods, earthquakes, firestorms, and a bombing of meteors every few thousand years. These disasters create a cycle of civilizations. One of these civilizations lives more than 10,000 years and reaches a higher level of knowledge and skills than we have now. Their civilization ended 20,000 years ago because of the next recurring disaster. If you don't know this cycle, history is incomprehensible. To learn much more about the cycle of civilizations, recurring floods, and ancient high technology, read the eBook: "Planet 9 = Nibiru". Search for: invisible nibiru 9
6:06 sir, the élite could not have done those things without some tacit approval of the rest, or of most of them : the history of the élite is a history of what the others approved too. Also, the élite was usually larger than 0.1 % of the population. Royalty as such perhaps wasn't, bur outside Egypt it was not all of the élite, and even in Egypt you had scribes too. And at times military officers like Radames.
I am bored by absurd that this find or that find is going to revolutionize anthropology or paleontology. It doesn't work that way. Each new find adds a few more bits of knowledge to the corpus of known facts.
Yes...If you are an archaeologist and you can get gold, silver and other treasure than sell it and still have other stuff to show progress, you would not do it... BS.
Droll and light-weight stuff. One of the poorest TED talks I have seen. Despite the fact that I love the topic. I don't like this yawning video...skip it!
Start at minute 7 to avoid to avoid the Hollywood preface. Then its a couple of 3 thousand year old burials and several of burials from the era at or just after the close of the Roman Empire in Britain.
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I find so much relaxation in listening to this, thank you!
TED owes Graham Hancock a grovelling apology
i realize it's kinda randomly asking but do anybody know of a good website to watch new series online ?
@Colson Angelo Flixportal :)
@Zane Roy thanks, I went there and it seems to work :D Appreciate it !
I agree! there's so much focus on the elite 0.0001% of the population where as finds like this yield so much more of the important information on what people's lives were actually like. These 5 skeletons are the real treasure! Thanks Dr. Russell!
VRJensen1 its also a matter of materials...elites often used materials which survive much better in the archaeological record and they are indicative for the social powerstructure at the time. Its not just status bias of archaeologists (though the general public clearly can be accused of this). Its also what is available to understand anything about the period under investigation. Russels remark that these people saw, during their lives, how England got involved in a Mediterranean superpower, is only provable via an effort devoted entirely to elites. In fact writing itself (the definition of what makes history) was initially an elite bussiness. Moreover, the main problem interrogating these same sceletons, mentioned here, is for a large part precisely due to their relatively low status. So please dont blame the archaeologists here...Too much that is....
@@pergamonrecordings I agree and it's hard to get money for doing the archeology from the public if your doing your dig on a well known spoil midden. Universities want digs that get their name out to the public. So another words if you think you know exactly where Alexander the Great's tomb is located in Alexandria you will have unlimited funds for the dig. (And have permission from the Egyptian Ministry of Antiquities but that's another story :-(l)
I think Indiana Jones' character was probably based on Giovanni Belzoni, an Italian tomb raider (explorer/archaeologist) of the early 1800s. Having said that, Jones was my hero before I learned the reality of being an archaeologist. Many of our ilk have actually thrived on the slightest adventure! I've occasionally also dealt with suspicious locals who thought we must be digging up gold treasures during the night while in the day we only found useless old bones and broken potsherds... lol!
Lajwanti Shahani the "mysteries" of the Seapeople (Nancy Sanders) did it for me when I was 17..even though I now (30 years later) doubt there were any and feel that the catagory was just an Egyptian way to reconstruct reality after a serious disrubtion of their symbolic consepts of power and the "other" -- serious pressiure on their borders, the fall of Hatti etc.) Often the attraction of mysteries will lead to lifelong effords to demystify them:-))
pergamonrecordings you should watch/hear another archaeologist Eric Cline break down the "sea peoples" of Ramses III's Egypt. He breaks it down very systematically. But that is the beauty of this field - demystifying and breaking down stuff which has been raised to mythical proportions. A lifetime of fascination :D
Lajwanti Shahani Oeff I dont want to start a discussion:-) but the approach of Eric Cline is precisely far from helpfull in my eyes...:-)) and in a way epitomizes the problem of US anti-imperialist self indentification. It causes many American historians to leave aside the wisdoms leaned in postcolonialism, because they consider themselves a victim, not a perpretrator of colonial thinking. His makes their views naively hellenophile in the case of the Aegean, which in the case of Cline even resulted in him speaking of a "Mycenaean nationality" after which I lost all hopes for him;-)))...
Surely Time Team has changed the public's perception of archaeology!
Did I miss something? Did the speaker ever mention how these five skeltons could 'change archeology'? All I heard was a comparison and contrast of Hollywood archeology to the real thing.
Jefferdaughter ted has a habit of click bait titles
Send for Phil Harding
'Alter our understanding of dark age Britain' would be a better description than ''change archaeology' but then it probably wouldn't fit as a title. Of more concern to me was the dismissiveness he displayed toward the Staffordshire Hoard. A great deal of information has been gleaned from the 3500 pieces of the hoard. And while the hoard may represent only one percent or so of the population the suggestion that it represents only 0.00001% (if I counted the nines properly) or LESS of the population is ignorant as that implies a population of 10 MILLION people in a single dark ages British Kingdom (fully a sixth of the island's current inhabitants) even if all the pieces belonged to a single man. And the presence of two or three gold crosses and a gold strip inscribed with a quotation from the book of numbers does at least suggest the answer to his question about what their religion was.
Video starts at 7:00.
awesome! id love to be an archeologist! it has been a dream since i was a small girl to do what this man is doing. Anthropology and archeology are fascinating
what stops you:-))
So...be one.
I heard it takes about 17 years to become an archeologist like Dr. Miles here. It's not really 17 years of schooling per say but 17 years of hard work, of being a lap man for an archeologist like Dr. Miles. Working beside him at a dig, going back and writing papers about the dig. Getting to know the people who fund these digs. Being sponsored by a school or someone like Dr. Miles. It's hard, and most people quit before they get there. So you end up working in the field, by doing a million other things that need to be done such as cleaning the things coming out of the ground. There are artists that draw the things coming out of the ground. There's just a million little things that need to be done behind the scenes.
The title is click-bait. Thought I was going to hear some amazing discovery but all it was was a very interesting lecture on archaeology. Not sorry I viewed it but don't like being tricked.
who would you otherwise get into watching the tedious reality of archaeology:-))
pergamonrecordings archaeologists? Maybe not even us... XD
lol i love how people take clickbait literal I meeeeean if you see a tabloid paper "johnny deep and amber heard just had an alien baby" it's probably not literally true?
archaeology isn't tedious :(
omg hey there Sure. But I have a higher standard for TED talks.
10:52 Depending on if there were actually defensive injuries found, I think the holes the persons’ skull could possibly have been caused by the attempt to relieve some sort sickness. That specific practice is called trepanation (and it was practiced anciently). (edited)
We have been here and HUMAN for way longer than main stream will ever admit.
The shaffordshire hoard (I love these English designators) IS archaeology as it tells us the taste and means of elites, which ulitimately tells us something about the way they legitimated their power symbolically, AND economically. This is not to say that Russel's somewhat polemic argument would be unhelpful -- it is important that the general public understands the issues at hand -- but he uses the populist argument of the "common people" which in archaeology often can only be defined by it's inversion: metal using (archaeologically survivable materials) using, elites
*CLICK BAIT for INTELLECTUALS!*
*_TOTAL VIDEO TITLE FAIL!_*
At no time did the speaker highlight how those 5 skeletons could change the world.
The title is very misleading.
Eric Awful u
you hoped for alternative history..haha than the title did its work...
@@pergamonrecordings - no but it did repeat information I have heard about 150 times. so yes the title was annoying
Thanks , I also am interested in what has been going on in the last 10 thousand years. It's now 2022 and we are finding out even more about people and earth.
Very well done. Extremely interesting and engaging. Brillant!
Long build up but that was good.
Thanks.
I would like to politely argue that it's just how the poor lived (I'm currently living in my truck) ie poor. But also how the rich liver. Its the whole picture that counts. While i completely agree that the majority will hold more data as there numbers always seem to far outweigh the rich that we find again its the whole picture that paints an
accurate archeological picture of the past. One may hold more data but that does not mean the other isnt archeological.
Title doesn't reflect what the speaker is saying, but still interesting enough.
0:00 tv archeologists
6:15 actual archeology
I enjoyed Indiana Jones and The Mummy but never took them as serious representations of Archaeology. I tend to think more of the crew from Time Team.
The Shadow
Of course they are. Just like all spy's are exactly like James Bond.
Very very interesting talk, well done.
He's right! And funny! I bet he's a great teacher.
I have lectures from Miles, and he's also my dissertation supervisor!! I can confirm he is a fantastic teacher!
My memory is a little fuzzy but I think the intro scenes of the movie were of a temple not a tomb, hence the golden idol on an altar.
And the Indiana Jones series isn't held out as a model for current archaeology but rather as a commentary on the methods of the past. It's clearly set in the 'Wild West' period of the field.
Just wondering, can anyone anywhere be a "TED lecturer"? The standards were once fairly high - well-known experts in the field or up and coming young people with new ideas. Now it seems it's anyone who can get a few dozen folks to watch their spiel for a few minutes
Very interesting. Thank you
sound quality is bad. : (
Other civilians or The military that put the risen deadthings back? I think that was a very intriguing Freudian slip. I would like to get him a wee bit tipsy and see what he may add to that line of chatter.
This info is informative - but the *Title does not accurately describe the content.*
Yes, the title is very misleading. I don't have that much time to get through so many videos to find what I'm after.
The audience shows who this was for. An introduction to show archeology isn't what the media portrays it.
Worth and value are really much the same - or even opposite what he says. He means 'monetary' value or 'fame' or 'hype' as opposed to data, real information or truth.
saying gold treasure is not archeology but art history because it's not about regular ppl is moronic.
Who does he think produced those items? There were no nobles gathering gold ore I'm sure. No kings smelting gold, no queens spinning golden thread for embroidery
NDRonin1401 ))
Why misslead us just call it "shining a light on the dark ages" people would still watch, however due to the click baiting im withholding my llke.
Most useful archaeology involves digging through rubbish pits.
Its not history or arqueology that needs to be changed.
The title is VERY misleading.
I thought Archaeology was described as "the handmaiden of History", lol, kidding. enjoyed this, thanks.
I am sure there is much than can change archaeology
Describes what an archaeologist is for the first 7 minutes then we get to see some skeletons
Agreed Plonker. Linear Vision. Non Celt. Celtic Christanity came DIRECT from middle east. Galatians 3.1 came from Gaul. Abaris druid from Isle Skye visited Pythagoris in Athens. Isle of Man was international free trading port + exchanged acknowledge. Seas WERE the highways. What anglo dribble. As usual.
PS Celts call Youesua Isa Moslems call him Iosia or similar in Persian. Romans basturdised this with story of Mithrias. Hence Roman Viking Crusaders 10 years after Orthodox split from Eastern flank.
A survey of the information offered by ancient graves.
So if you try and dig up Fred at the local cemetery you will go to Gaol. Yet if the graves are hundreds or more years old you are allowed to pull them apart and put them in a museum? :/
Yes
The skeleton of Yeshua of Nazareth would sure change history.
3 minutes and I discover Ted is succumbing to clickbait theory. The sound truly sucks too
Very nice!
Prehistory into history when the Romans invaded????? He is not an archaeologist if he thinks that history only really started then. There is now so much more knowledge than 20 years ago.
Lecturers like this is why I hated school........Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
"...Skellingtens I don't know nuffink 'bout no Skellingtens..."
"... Decaffeinated!"
Hot Fuzz?
8:35 "what was life expectancy in the past"
Sorry, but anatomical "age" or "aging processes" are not identical to age.
I have been homeless for 13 years, and have probably in part an anatomical age which went up 26 years. In other words, you can only measure how far the aging process is gone.
But this depends on other factors than how old (in actual years) someone was when dying.
This is for instance why some have (before Neanderthal DNA was analysed) speculated that Neanderthals could be post-Flood patriarchs living into several hundreds - because one thing aging does under certain circumstances is thicken bones.
You cannot take this as a conclusive clue as to age when dying unless you have conclusive evidence of how sturdy the body was to begin with (we are less so than psot-Flood patriarchs who were less so than pre-Flood patriarchs) or what amount of toil someone faced in daily life (skeleta of 60 individuals from Anglo-Saxon period of England said none to have reached 50 could have done less work than the Wild West Farmers of known ages that they were compared to).
Good point about aging. While most of my bones would likely match my age, I still have baby teeth decades after they should be gone. I am also still waiting for a couple of wisdom teeth to come up.
5 graves shine a light into the dark ages....where is the confusion?
time team is definitely more interesting than indiana Jones .
What time team? Is that a movie?
Where are the 5 skeletons that will change archeology?
0utstanding! Thanks.
Not entirely overwelming.
Spindle well or spindle whorl ???
Has this guy never seen Time Team?
Joe Turner
The preface says he is a regular contributor to Time Team.
Miles has been on time team several times.
Archeologists are walking in the dark as long as they ignore ancient texts, like the Indian Mahabharata and the Mayan Popol Vuh, that tell us that the Earth suffers from a cycle of seven natural disasters. Those disasters are causing massive floods, earthquakes, firestorms, and a bombing of meteors every few thousand years. These disasters create a cycle of civilizations. One of these civilizations lives more than 10,000 years and reaches a higher level of knowledge and skills than we have now. Their civilization ended 20,000 years ago because of the next recurring disaster. If you don't know this cycle, history is
incomprehensible. To learn much more about the cycle of civilizations, recurring floods, and ancient high technology, read the eBook: "Planet 9 = Nibiru". Search for: invisible nibiru 9
So archeology is a classist pursuit only interested in the lower classes?
Nonsense.
Badly titled.
TedX videos seem to be sometimes click bait or just not as interesting as the title of the lecture intends to claim
His nickname is kilometer. Lol
Honestly I've never considered Hollywood treasure hunting archaeology anyway. Don't get the presenter's pain during the first 7 or so minutes.
Title misleading
6:06 sir, the élite could not have done those things without some tacit approval of the rest, or of most of them : the history of the élite is a history of what the others approved too.
Also, the élite was usually larger than 0.1 % of the population. Royalty as such perhaps wasn't, bur outside Egypt it was not all of the élite, and even in Egypt you had scribes too. And at times military officers like Radames.
Change archeology?
You mean like a 4.5 mile tall skull?
I am bored by absurd that this find or that find is going to revolutionize anthropology or paleontology. It doesn't work that way. Each new find adds a few more bits of knowledge to the corpus of known facts.
Infantile, fit for 7 year olds only.
which tells me that you have an ego issue:-)) a 7 year old can understand that.
Yes...If you are an archaeologist and you can get gold, silver and other treasure than sell it and still have other stuff to show progress, you would not do it... BS.
Yes, i was hoping they would admit they found 'giants'.....but no, just clickbait, erasing it now from my watch history.
It's a movie!!!!;!
5 minutes... movie ctitic .eeehh?
Right? Call it what it is. A lie. Nothing at all about these particular finds change anything about archaeology.
Next Tedx will be in some dudes basement.
and the audio sucks.
Terrible audio.
Five minutes in and there has been no information. Just like Indiana Jones. Bye.
Fake Ted? amateurish production is it real?
Very annoying narration. Poor quality and sound.
Two thumbs down 👎🏼👎🏼
Puro. Ganar con. Jesus!!!! Ja!!!!!
Droll and light-weight stuff. One of the poorest TED talks I have seen. Despite the fact that I love the topic. I don't like this yawning video...skip it!
Blah blah omg get to the point
I learned nothing
Click bait and uninteresting presentation.
Not much science with all the schtick.
.
GET TO THE POINT!!
Get to the point!