WTF! Outstanding! Your Demo was awesome - and I wanted more. I got this in my email and was gonna get it - but to support your channel, I'll get it through your link. Awesome job.
That oh so subtle smile in the intro when you say "No, I'm not joking". Glad to hear that awesome people are reaching out to you to preview the good stuff! I feel there is a lot to unpack in this plugin, since it's a "hub", but do you feel the Fortin Nameless plugin still has its use? From what you have worked with, how does the Nameless stack up against some high gain amps in this plugin?
This is much more versatile, there's a lot more options at your disposal and they all sound great. The Nameless is more of a one trick pony. Except the trick is the best trick you've ever seen a pony do, ever.
Thank you for, once again, create great vid and give us amazing tips... as a guitarist myself i really enjoy everything you do ! .... and your riffs are seriously awesome. A fan From France 🔥
Thanks man, I don't make these videos to sell them but rather so that I can show some relatable way on how it could be used by an everyday person like me
I have bought Tonehub yesterday and was amazed how good it sounds, very transparant, much depth and dynamics. By the way awesome video and playing showcasing the plugin !!!!
Keyan Houshmand Live great vid indeed! There are many packs... thinking about Will Putney pack, but is there any other you would recommend for heavy riffing and prog metal? Thanks! Leo
I don’t like the way this plugin just sound fizzy, harsh and muddy approximate lows... for now it’s clearly not an alternative to Kemper :( BTW I love OMega from neural DSP, this was a good surprise!
Enemies from hardware companies are hitting dislike, if only this company can create the iPhone and iPad version of this plugin, the world of guitar will show great appreciation. I love this breakthrough
Keyan Houshmand Live sounds killer. Did you have any issue because of the too hot output of your guitar/pickup going into your computer and these plugins? (I have issues with this.)
Thanks for the review.Can you recommend a tone pack that will have a variety of Kempler,Axe FX tones suitable for rock & some metal (not grunge or Thrash) but something like EJ,Satriani & praise & worship styles?
So it uses their own amp sim and fx. Would that not mean that the tones will not be the same as the axe or kemper because it is not using axe or kemper amp models?
The tones captured within the tone packs were done using real amp setups, recorded and profiles by a Kemper or axe fx. With this plugin you are then able to load those profiles that were based from original real amp setups.
Question: Which pickups do you have in that Fender HH? I have a an HH Stagg that looks cool with a checkered pattern paint-job, but it has horrendous Invaders clones pickups that sound stale
Nice man. Have a question. When you record guitar in your DAW does the recording line up with the metronome? Since you're recording with an audio interface and there is latency involved, I'm just wondering if your recorded tracks perfectly line up, or do you need to manually drag/line them up yourself? Thanks.
When I do demos, I hit record, turn the metronome off and just leave it recording across the whole video while im playing around with the plugin. At the end I stop recroding and the export it.
@@KeyanHoushmandLive That's not what I'm asking. What I mean is, if you were to record your guitar to a metronome in your DAW, would the recorded track line up on time with the metronome, or would it be delayed/further ahead due to latency from your audio interface?
So... for anyone who's downloaded the Jon Deiley preset, is it just me or is everything WAY lower gain than it should be? Seems a bit weird considering all the other bundles I've tried are plug and play with hi gain in the heavy presets
Nice Vid. Got it myself and really like it. I´ve see right you got al the exp. packs - so you got enough sounds for the next 242 years for experimenting. Please let the camera on. *lol*
Hey man, what tuning do you use for Thorny stuff? I recently bought a 7 but its only 25.5 scale. Was wondering if thorny/northlane stuff was achievable with that scale length or am I going to have to buy a baritone too haha. Just bought this plugin too, cheers for the vid.
Keyan Houshmand Live cool thanks for the heads up. Would love to hear your take on overloud thu rig player and the different rig packs. Choptones are killer
@@KeyanHoushmandLive yep.... I'm buying it lol. 60 core tones to start with is pretty solid. I didn't look but I wonder how much it is to get these player and producer packs Etc
@@KeyanHoushmandLive Good to know! Thanks. Btw, great stuff, I found your channel accidentally a few weeks ago and I've been watching your stuff but I just subscribed. It's going to be nice to see you when you're huge , and you have all these companies giving you tons of shit LOL
sounds okay like all plugs transients are flat 2d no bloom or bite and lacks definition, a marshall sv20 into captor will kill em, real tubes all day, musics worth it
I used to feel the same until I got the own hammer and ML labs IR's mixed with Neural DSP. Closest thing we've come to in the box yet! Also helps a lot to plug the guitar into my neve then into my 1176 but make sure keep the gain at unity to the same level the guitar would be without it and I also don't compress with the 1176 at all really... Just using it for the analog tone it gives my D.I. Neural DSP is the best so far out of everything I've tried.. loading the IR's is where it's at tough! I think a lot of the problem is the whole "moving the mic position thing" which gives too many options and probably makes it impossible to use just the IR they started with. Not sure.... All I know is we are getting close... and at the end of the day (or night) it's all about the song anyway! Remember how bad Creed's first record sounded? Those guitars sounded like an old Pod. lol But it sold millions of copies because Mark played with all of his heart and he melodies were infectious!
@@nolanneal yeh thats the better solution my neve or api with a maxon tube od in front, but i use a prism tian too the conversion makes the diff, still 35 years ear training reveals the truth, music quality is worth it, when people get laxed they fall into the consumer trap tech quantity of irs more than simple quality an izo box is the way to get the extra 20 percent, then its down to engineering, once you have done it a long time you know iron and tubes cant be a mimic regardless of lazy folks want it easy want it now, no fun in that shit :)
@Zach alan fair opinion, im more for quality over quantity, a lot of music today sounds weak with sims, depends how much you value music as a producer i do, the 20 percent most people cant hear engineers need to hear as mixing etc is a craft and decades spent learning how to record amps proper adds value to music imo, enjoy the sims :)
@@NO-TALK-GuitarPlugin I don`t want to compare any. Even if I could tolerate DSP prices, Ilok stuff is definitely no. I recently wasted some time trying to install their new ampsim demo, and lost patience eventually.
STL always making me spend my money lol I honestly love their plugins n this one seems to be a game changer. Plugins like this are gonna render the axe fx n kempers obsolete
Man , this tone hub has disappointed me a lot. Neural dsp kills this, I understand what they are trying to do but there other plugins like the Will Putney suite is so much better. How in the world do you get these tones on this tone hub. I play through it and it’s terrible. I mean it really don’t sound that good in this video, but it sounds better than what I am doing. I wish I could sit down with people like you and hear what your hearing.
Lol, this demo sounds awful. When I play andy james tonehub pack, i get the same sound he used in exodus album which is the best tone i have ever heard on guitar. You definitely make something wrong. Its your playing, pickups and you dont know how to use eq
@@adalbertusignatius4967 I can use an eq just fine, my pickups are instrumental sfty3 which are better than any Seymour Duncan, Dimarzio, Emg, or Fishman. When I blended different amps from the packs it started sounding great but far too much tweaking and choices for me to deal with so I sold it. I got something like neural dsp and nembrini, or plugin alliance so when you load it up just a few turns of a knob and a great ir and you have a great tone
@@jarrenharper718 Kiesel Oisiris with instrumental sfty3 pickups. The tone comes from the guitar, the pickups, the strings and amp not the player. The player has the dynamics and the skills to make that tone be the best it can.
@@prognosis77 when this fits better in your mixes, it is fine. But for example neurals plugins are very limited. Only one amp per plugin. This gets boring very quickly. It also highly depends on the mix. With the Andy James pack I purchased, there is this Archon Lead preset and I have never found a plugin where you can play a high gain lead tone on your neck with that clarity like on this amp. And the Marshall JCM 800 preset in this pack is also very hard to beat by another plugin. In Andy James Backing Tracks I have found nothing which fits better.
Soooooo tired of the same metal tones... with that king of gain, it doesn’t matter the quality of the plugin... once in a mix, nobody it’s going to notice. Sorry, but it’s so difficult to find a demo of breakup tones or classic ones! It has to be my fault!!!!! Thanks anyway for the demo and effort!!!!!!✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️
this thing don`t sound like axe ,or kpa ....it sounds like old software amp tonematching after kpa or axe ,dull , and boring sound ,,,clearly this statements about axe and kemper sound - is another marketing bullshit .... Neural DSP plugins are a thousand miles away from that ..in terms of realism and quality )...
Yes, because his demo sounds shit. I have every plugin out there and get the best sounds from tonehub. Same sound like Andy James ones he did with the kemper. When its not the case for you, you dont know how to use it.
Dude you deserve more and more subscribers. Awesome content as usual
Thanks dude! growing slowly slowly!
Imagine not needing an AXE-FX or Kemper to play something from an AXE-FX or Kemper. Oh wait, I can.
And here I was, about to pre-order a POD go....
@@NO-TALK-GuitarPlugin are you sure? there's no difference between this and kemper, stop bitching...ua-cam.com/video/pSC0ccBXf6w/v-deo.html
This is HUGE cant wait to get my hands on this! Amazing video as always brother. Keep killin it! 🤟🔥
Thanks for always watching!
WTF! Outstanding! Your Demo was awesome - and I wanted more. I got this in my email and was gonna get it - but to support your channel, I'll get it through your link. Awesome job.
Thanks dude, the link was just a generic one. I don’t get benefits from purchases from this video, I’m glad you’re enjoying it though!
Wow this sounds very cool. Looks very powerful. Awesome tones!
Very powerful plugin for sure, thanks!
Great demo Keyan! Unbelievable how STL pulled it off!
I have no idea how, but it's great
Mate that riff at the start deserves a sub by itself
That oh so subtle smile in the intro when you say "No, I'm not joking".
Glad to hear that awesome people are reaching out to you to preview the good stuff! I feel there is a lot to unpack in this plugin, since it's a "hub", but do you feel the Fortin Nameless plugin still has its use? From what you have worked with, how does the Nameless stack up against some high gain amps in this plugin?
This is much more versatile, there's a lot more options at your disposal and they all sound great. The Nameless is more of a one trick pony. Except the trick is the best trick you've ever seen a pony do, ever.
@@KeyanHoushmandLive hey man what happens if you cancel the monthly subscription? Do you still have the license? Or you lose it?
Thank you for, once again, create great vid and give us amazing tips... as a guitarist myself i really enjoy everything you do ! .... and your riffs are seriously awesome. A fan From France 🔥
Thanks dude! Still boggles my mind that people from across the world tune in to this tiny channel
Really good video man. I believe I’m gonna have to purchase this! You are a good salesman lol
Thanks man, I don't make these videos to sell them but rather so that I can show some relatable way on how it could be used by an everyday person like me
Keyan Houshmand Live oh yeah for sure dude! I just meant your playing and tones you got from it. Sold it to me haha
This is a really good basic tone setup guide.
Also helps that the tones sound great at the start!
This opening riffage...entered into Ola's riff challenge...right now...this minute... WINNING!
I have bought Tonehub yesterday and was amazed how good it sounds, very transparant, much depth and dynamics. By the way awesome video and playing showcasing the plugin !!!!
Thanks dude! Glad you’re enjoying it
Keyan Houshmand Live great vid indeed! There are many packs... thinking about Will Putney pack, but is there any other you would recommend for heavy riffing and prog metal? Thanks! Leo
Leo Souza the Northlane pack would work!
Keyan Houshmand Live thanks! I will check it. Keep posting more vids! 🤘🏻
I think you just need to write an EP or an album for us!
Now there's an idea
agreed
is it usable with 3rd party cabs? the kemper is not usable if the profiles are not direct.
That to me is the biggest issue with profiles they need to be direct
The Cab section can not be disabled as its baked into the tone.
I don’t like the way this plugin just sound fizzy, harsh and muddy approximate lows... for now it’s clearly not an alternative to Kemper :( BTW I love OMega from neural DSP, this was a good surprise!
Great job buddy, greetings from Barcelona
My favourite spanish team lol, thanks!
Enemies from hardware companies are hitting dislike, if only this company can create the iPhone and iPad version of this plugin, the world of guitar will show great appreciation. I love this breakthrough
Great plugin. Can t wait to test it. Btw, can you do more videos about riffin? You riff machine
Will try to, it’s difficult to explain
Make a video on those little riff runs you do... i wanna play like that
I will have to think of a way to do that properly, cheers for the suggestion
Digging the Tele brother.
Thanks, wait till you see it when it’s done
Nice....and for bass?
There are plenty of bass presets on here too!
Probably a stupid question - How do you hook this up from your computer to your guitar amplifier
Great video,what interface do you use?
ممنون بابت ویدئو
اطلاعات خیلی بجا و کامل بود.
I feel like a lot of the presets have sooooo much gain on them. I haven't found one I can just use. lol
Does it have a midi controller function both for fx and presets?
I’m not too sure, try the website for the deets
ok thanks dude! hopefully it has a midi controller function like neural dsp for live use etc.
I’d pay way too much for an EP or album if you were to release one man 😍 Also, nice tones
In due time man, perfectionist mentality means I’ll never get anything finished ffs HAHAHAHA
Keyan Houshmand Live Very relatable 😂😂
Sounds killer right out of the box. What’s the bridge pickup in that 7 string guitar?
BKP Juggernaut
Keyan Houshmand Live sounds killer. Did you have any issue because of the too hot output of your guitar/pickup going into your computer and these plugins?
(I have issues with this.)
Thanks for the review.Can you recommend a tone pack that will have a variety of Kempler,Axe FX tones suitable for rock & some metal (not grunge or Thrash) but something like EJ,Satriani & praise & worship styles?
Awesome video once again man. What would be your ultimate plugin if you could choose only one? Anyway your channel growing like crazy. Congrats!
If I had to choose one plugin I would choose something that is as versatile as this
Great sound!! Kinda struggling with recording and editing guitar tracks in FL. It is a nightmare of unused clips for me (:
Blessing and a curse!
I couldn’t get into recording in FL, so I switched over to Reaper. Super happy with the switch!
So it uses their own amp sim and fx. Would that not mean that the tones will not be the same as the axe or kemper because it is not using axe or kemper amp models?
The tones captured within the tone packs were done using real amp setups, recorded and profiles by a Kemper or axe fx. With this plugin you are then able to load those profiles that were based from original real amp setups.
Great video! Does it have midi capability to switch presets, scenes, or stomp boxes? Thanks!
Hormoz Janssens it does it I’m not mistaken
It can realise the profilling like kemper??? I mean... an exactly clone of maybe... A real marshall jcm 800?
Are you able to save these profile and then load them into a kemper or axe-fx, for live purposes?
I don't think so, I'm not too sure on that
@@KeyanHoushmandLive would be a pretty cool idea if it isn't the case already.
enjoyed the vid as always 😉
What tuning and string gauge
Fender was drop d 9-46, 7 string was Ab 11-74
6:55 Coven??
I AM HORNY FOR THORNY
Holy wow 😮
you can say that again
@@KeyanHoushmandLive And here I was, about to pre order a POD go...
What kind of DAW is it?
Question: Which pickups do you have in that Fender HH? I have a an HH Stagg that looks cool with a checkered pattern paint-job, but it has horrendous Invaders clones pickups that sound stale
Nice man. Have a question. When you record guitar in your DAW does the recording line up with the metronome? Since you're recording with an audio interface and there is latency involved, I'm just wondering if your recorded tracks perfectly line up, or do you need to manually drag/line them up yourself? Thanks.
When I do demos, I hit record, turn the metronome off and just leave it recording across the whole video while im playing around with the plugin. At the end I stop recroding and the export it.
@@KeyanHoushmandLive That's not what I'm asking. What I mean is, if you were to record your guitar to a metronome in your DAW, would the recorded track line up on time with the metronome, or would it be delayed/further ahead due to latency from your audio interface?
John M. It’s in time
Change your drivers from your audio interface drivers to asio in DAW preferences. Thatll fix recording and line in lag.
astounded!!!! period...
it is crazy software
Awesome tele 😁😁
So... for anyone who's downloaded the Jon Deiley preset, is it just me or is everything WAY lower gain than it should be? Seems a bit weird considering all the other bundles I've tried are plug and play with hi gain in the heavy presets
Please drop an album/ep soon I really wanna hear what you can do in tha tf context your demos are fucking K I L L E R
Thanks man! That’s the plan
Nice Vid. Got it myself and really like it.
I´ve see right you got al the exp. packs - so you got enough sounds for the next 242 years for experimenting. Please let the camera on. *lol*
It’s definitely a lot to get through that’s for sure, thanks man!
This "tchau" at the end sounds exactly as we say here in Brazil. Was it on purpose?
He said "ciao" as in "ciao bella" which means "see you later".
@@Syklonus bella in Italian is beautiful. So you just said "bye beautiful "
Hey, it's cool, it's between you and the Brazilian. Lmao
Ciao!
Incredible coincidence, it sounds exactly the same as we said goodbye and has the same meaning. Thanks for the explanation.
@@KuntoOdhiambo you got it.
This is FL Studio right? What version do you use?
FL studio 20
@@KeyanHoushmandLive pensavo i essere l'unico al mondo a suonare metal ed usare fl studio come daw ahahah
What is that guitar? Never seen a tele with humbuckers. \m/
Hey man, what tuning do you use for Thorny stuff? I recently bought a 7 but its only 25.5 scale. Was wondering if thorny/northlane stuff was achievable with that scale length or am I going to have to buy a baritone too haha. Just bought this plugin too, cheers for the vid.
You're good, what's your favorite band?
Thanks dude, Periphery for sure
Intro riff holy shit :D
Very very old song idea!
@@KeyanHoushmandLive make a song out of it :)
Hey bud! Fucking sick video and really looking forward to grabbing this. How does cpu use compare to neural plugins?
It uses a little bit less in my experience, thanks!
Keyan Houshmand Live cool thanks for the heads up. Would love to hear your take on overloud thu rig player and the different rig packs. Choptones are killer
Yeah? How much is it? It's probably outrageous
Starting Price is 150!
@@KeyanHoushmandLive yep.... I'm buying it lol.
60 core tones to start with is pretty solid.
I didn't look but I wonder how much it is to get these player and producer packs Etc
William DiStasio 50 each, but if you buy now you get one for free
@@KeyanHoushmandLive
Good to know! Thanks.
Btw, great stuff, I found your channel accidentally a few weeks ago and I've been watching your stuff but I just subscribed. It's going to be nice to see you when you're huge , and you have all these companies giving you tons of shit LOL
William DiStasio thanks dude, really appreciate it man. Hope to see you around on other videos
STL is not AXE or Kemper in software. TH-U )
I'm tipping you're gonna get a shitload more subs soon
Grateful for what I've got so far!
Dont quite like it, sounds harsh. I dont like that STL doesnt have oversampling on their newer plugins
There are dull, normal and bright versions of most presets, I like the bright ones but I think you’d be more suited to the dull ones.
I haven’t seen many people use fl studio for metal cheers
Neither hahaha
New phone who dis?
ring ring hello
sounds okay like all plugs transients are flat 2d no bloom or bite and lacks definition, a marshall sv20 into captor will kill em, real tubes all day, musics worth it
Each to their own, thanks for watching
I used to feel the same until I got the own hammer and ML labs IR's mixed with Neural DSP. Closest thing we've come to in the box yet! Also helps a lot to plug the guitar into my neve then into my 1176 but make sure keep the gain at unity to the same level the guitar would be without it and I also don't compress with the 1176 at all really... Just using it for the analog tone it gives my D.I.
Neural DSP is the best so far out of everything I've tried.. loading the IR's is where it's at tough! I think a lot of the problem is the whole "moving the mic position thing" which gives too many options and probably makes it impossible to use just the IR they started with. Not sure.... All I know is we are getting close... and at the end of the day (or night) it's all about the song anyway! Remember how bad Creed's first record sounded? Those guitars sounded like an old Pod. lol But it sold millions of copies because Mark played with all of his heart and he melodies were infectious!
@@nolanneal yeh thats the better solution my neve or api with a maxon tube od in front, but i use a prism tian too the conversion makes the diff, still 35 years ear training reveals the truth, music quality is worth it, when people get laxed they fall into the consumer trap tech quantity of irs more than simple quality an izo box is the way to get the extra 20 percent, then its down to engineering, once you have done it a long time you know iron and tubes cant be a mimic regardless of lazy folks want it easy want it now, no fun in that shit :)
@Zach alan fair opinion, im more for quality over quantity, a lot of music today sounds weak with sims, depends how much you value music as a producer i do, the 20 percent most people cant hear engineers need to hear as mixing etc is a craft and decades spent learning how to record amps proper adds value to music imo, enjoy the sims :)
no juggernout wtf)))
I use it later in the video!
@@KeyanHoushmandLive I saw it later, but the comment was already written)
I don’t think you’re legally allowed to djent on a tele
I have broken the law
Teles are Thall as fuck, spanky ass single-coils tho
Jon deiley and Adam from architects disagree
the world is unfair. Pornhub is free, Tonehub isn`t =(
The price we pay for TONE
@@KeyanHoushmandLive The price we don`t pay for PORN
lol
Romulan Spy don’t fall into this cheap marketing stuff. Try it by yourself, then compare with neural DSP ;)
@@NO-TALK-GuitarPlugin I don`t want to compare any. Even if I could tolerate DSP prices, Ilok stuff is definitely no. I recently wasted some time trying to install their new ampsim demo, and lost patience eventually.
I wish I could afford those STL Plugin.
Start saving now, it’s worth it!
STL always making me spend my money lol I honestly love their plugins n this one seems to be a game changer. Plugins like this are gonna render the axe fx n kempers obsolete
The dream would be a PC version of an AxeFXorKemper, I'd pay MONEY for that.
@@KeyanHoushmandLive hell yea! That's what I'm hoping this plugin sets the path towards
I have it. It blows.
Man , this tone hub has disappointed me a lot. Neural dsp kills this, I understand what they are trying to do but there other plugins like the Will Putney suite is so much better. How in the world do you get these tones on this tone hub. I play through it and it’s terrible. I mean it really don’t sound that good in this video, but it sounds better than what I am doing. I wish I could sit down with people like you and hear what your hearing.
Torn Horizon so much of the tone is the player, the guitar and the pickups. What guitar are you using?
Lol, this demo sounds awful. When I play andy james tonehub pack, i get the same sound he used in exodus album which is the best tone i have ever heard on guitar. You definitely make something wrong. Its your playing, pickups and you dont know how to use eq
@@adalbertusignatius4967 I can use an eq just fine, my pickups are instrumental sfty3 which are better than any Seymour Duncan, Dimarzio, Emg, or Fishman. When I blended different amps from the packs it started sounding great but far too much tweaking and choices for me to deal with so I sold it. I got something like neural dsp and nembrini, or plugin alliance so when you load it up just a few turns of a knob and a great ir and you have a great tone
@@jarrenharper718 Kiesel Oisiris with instrumental sfty3 pickups.
The tone comes from the guitar, the pickups, the strings and amp not the player. The player has the dynamics and the skills to make that tone be the best it can.
@@prognosis77 when this fits better in your mixes, it is fine. But for example neurals plugins are very limited. Only one amp per plugin. This gets boring very quickly. It also highly depends on the mix. With the Andy James pack I purchased, there is this Archon Lead preset and I have never found a plugin where you can play a high gain lead tone on your neck with that clarity like on this amp. And the Marshall JCM 800 preset in this pack is also very hard to beat by another plugin. In Andy James Backing Tracks I have found nothing which fits better.
Soooooo tired of the same metal tones... with that king of gain, it doesn’t matter the quality of the plugin... once in a mix, nobody it’s going to notice. Sorry, but it’s so difficult to find a demo of breakup tones or classic ones! It has to be my fault!!!!! Thanks anyway for the demo and effort!!!!!!✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️
Noi I'm noit joiking
GUI Rig manager ripoff
There wouldve been some influences from that for sure, given that its a Kemper tone manager and this is a Kemper tone loader.
this thing don`t sound like axe ,or kpa ....it sounds like old software amp tonematching after kpa or axe ,dull , and boring sound ,,,clearly this statements about axe and kemper sound - is another marketing bullshit ....
Neural DSP plugins are a thousand miles away from that ..in terms of realism and quality )...
Yes, because his demo sounds shit. I have every plugin out there and get the best sounds from tonehub. Same sound like Andy James ones he did with the kemper. When its not the case for you, you dont know how to use it.
£200? overpriced by a long way.
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