The Only Western Orson Welles Called a Masterpiece

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  • Опубліковано 18 гру 2024
  • Orson Welles had strong opinions about Hollywood-he hated more films than he loved. But there was one Western he admired so much that he watched it over 40 times while preparing for Citizen Kane. This is the story of Stagecoach - the film Welles called a masterpiece and a brutal behind-the-scenes journey that made John Wayne a star.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 48

  • @jasonkane8200
    @jasonkane8200 22 дні тому +6

    It's a great piece of cinema sotrytelling, no question.

  • @johngraves6878
    @johngraves6878 11 днів тому +1

    Thanks I never knew this, never seen Stagecoach. However last year I did explore Monument Valley a bit by car.

  • @dixgun
    @dixgun 11 днів тому +1

    It's a great film. I like John Wayne in “McQ”.

  • @jmseipp
    @jmseipp 14 днів тому +5

    Shane was the Best Western of all time!

    • @BruceJackson-lx2dw
      @BruceJackson-lx2dw 14 днів тому +1

      It's a matter of personal preference: THE GUNFIGHTER [Gregory Peck] is my # 1 choice.

    • @cht2162
      @cht2162 12 днів тому +2

      Shane! Shane!! Shane!!! Shane!!!! SHANE!!!!! COME BACK, SHANE

    • @jmseipp
      @jmseipp 12 днів тому

      @@cht2162 Batman did a spoof on the film back in the 1960’s. His name was SHAME!

    • @stevef9530
      @stevef9530 6 днів тому

      @@cht2162There’s no going back from a killing, Joey.

  • @AmericanActionReport
    @AmericanActionReport 22 дні тому +5

    When I used movie techniques to teach literature appreciation at Hsing Wu University, I drew many lessons from "Die Hard" (the original, not the substandard sequels) and "Jaws." Many movies were better than those two, but the literary and cinematic lessons in those movies were easier to show and easier to explain. I'm retired now, but I'll have to watch "Stagecoach" again to see what filmmaking lessons are illustrated.

    • @jmdi2703
      @jmdi2703 21 день тому +1

      Please share with me cinema lesson notes.

    • @AmericanActionReport
      @AmericanActionReport 21 день тому +1

      @@jmdi2703 There are too many to mention all of them, but I'll briefly mention a few. 1.) The victims in "Jaws" progress from emotionally far from the protagonist to emotionally (and physically) near the protagonist. 2.) The shark is unseen in the opening sequence and gradually revealed up to the climax. 3.) Both 1. and 2. proceed from uneasiness to clear and present danger. 4.) Quint first appears as a "lone man" (someone who is clearly different from other townspeople, a signal that he'll be important to the story's resolution.) 5.) Quint becomes the "lion" of the movie (the one who sacrifices himself to achieve the resolution.) There are many others, but I'll switch to "Die Hard." "Die Hard" illustrates three levels of struggle: 1.) External struggle (McClain fighting the bad guys), 2.) internal struggle (McClain struggling to win his wife back, and 3.) moral or philosophical struggle (McClain seeing himself as a New York cop, Holly seeing herself as a newly minted professional; and both of them coming realize that their relationship is more important in who and what they are. The viewer is given an implied promise that they'll work it out.) All three struggles are parallel and have the same arc, all reaching resolution at the same point. There are many other literary and cinematic lessons in this movie as well.

    • @lawrencelewis2592
      @lawrencelewis2592 14 днів тому +1

      @@AmericanActionReport Very good analysis! You are not the first one to compare Jaws to Stagecoach. Now think of George Romero's Night of the Living Dead and Sam Fuller's the Steel Helmet and note the similarities. And note how both of them resemble Jaws and Stagecoach. For me it's how people in a small confined place react to the dangers without and how what should be the moral leader of the group really isn't.

    • @AmericanActionReport
      @AmericanActionReport 14 днів тому

      @@lawrencelewis2592 Wow! I haven't heard of Steel Helmet; but, now that you mention it, I can see it (and can't unsee it) in Jaws and Stagecoach. The confined space trope also fits Alien, House in the Woods, and Breakfast Club.

    • @lawrencelewis2592
      @lawrencelewis2592 14 днів тому +1

      @@AmericanActionReport Steel Helmet is a great one- low budget as all Sam Fuller's movies were but he did a lot with a small budget. See it then Night of the Living dead on a double bill. Never seen the ones you mention but now I see that I have to. Regards!

  • @Michele10G
    @Michele10G 5 днів тому

    I think Ford was mad at John Wayne for not serving in WW II, when so many other Hollywood actors did.

  • @anthonycaruso8443
    @anthonycaruso8443 11 днів тому

    "do you hear,it's the bugle ,they're blowing the charge"Seen it many times.Never watch the remake.

  • @johndonovan5752
    @johndonovan5752 16 днів тому +1

    I figured a John Ford movie had to be his favorite.

    • @nickmitsialis
      @nickmitsialis 9 днів тому

      And I was thinking it was 'The Searchers'.

  • @williamwilson6499
    @williamwilson6499 16 днів тому +6

    0:26 And people say John Wayne was too old to serve in WWII. Sorry but not sorry…he was a draft dodging coward.

    • @lawrencelewis2592
      @lawrencelewis2592 14 днів тому +3

      No he wasn't- he had valid reasons for not serving. Married with children and it was felt that he was more aid to the war effort by making films to keep up morale rather than being just another dogface.

    • @Whatt787
      @Whatt787 14 днів тому +3

      He had 4 kids, so he was exempt

    • @nickmitsialis
      @nickmitsialis 9 днів тому

      @@lawrencelewis2592 And the studio head promised to f/k up his career if he left.
      Anyway, No WW2 vet actor ever gave Wayne grief over it--Ford tried to give him a hard time for not serving but Robert Montgomery (Wayne's co star in They were Expendable and an actual PT Boat Commander during the war) told Ford to shut up and knock it off.

    • @nickmitsialis
      @nickmitsialis 9 днів тому

      Try harder tovarich!

  • @bradbradshaw-i4n
    @bradbradshaw-i4n 16 днів тому +3

    citizen kane is the so called best movie of all time. you got to be kidding.

    • @oasisneko1
      @oasisneko1 15 днів тому +1

      I agree. Lady Vanishes has just as many tricks. Touch of Evil has longest take, so what? It's dated and Welles was always pompous.

    • @Whatt787
      @Whatt787 14 днів тому +1

      Agree, Citizen Kane is pure junk, boring and depressing, its only famous because of 'Rosebud' ending

    • @alpha-omega2362
      @alpha-omega2362 13 днів тому

      @@Whatt787 I remember, after much hype, I watched it on the late show, I turned it off mid way through the newsreel. I couldn't stand the guys voice.... but since then, I have learned that's how the narrators talked back then on the newsreels.... I do appreciate some the groundbreaking cinematography etc. but it is quite boring as you say. And besides, how did they know what his last words were? If you watch closely, he says it very quietly and there is no one there, because the next shot is of the nurse opening the door and coming in....no way could she have heard him say it.....

  • @Whatt787
    @Whatt787 14 днів тому +2

    Wells is full of crap, Burton was a good actor, great charisma, and John Wayne made much better movies than Stagecoach(1939)---Try Hondo(1953), The Searchers(1957), True Grit(1968), or the haunting Wake Of The Red Witch(1948), Hatari(1963), Donavan's Reef(1963) etc

  • @Charlie-xc6mb
    @Charlie-xc6mb 9 днів тому +2

    Orson Wells was an arrogant narcissist and an over-rated ham of an actor.

  • @stevef9530
    @stevef9530 6 днів тому

    Kknew he’d pick Stagecoach. A corny old piece of social melodrama for a corny actor and director. I choose Shane and the Searchers any day.

  • @hendrikdebruin4012
    @hendrikdebruin4012 16 днів тому +5

    John Wayne was a terrible actor - he could do nothing else but walk with a swagger, smile and pull inappropriate faces. He is one of the most overrated actors of all time.

    • @TRUTHALWAYSHURTS.7867
      @TRUTHALWAYSHURTS.7867 15 днів тому +5

      BULLSHIT. HE WAS A GIFTED WESTERN MOVIE ACTOR.

    • @hendrikdebruin4012
      @hendrikdebruin4012 15 днів тому +2

      @@TRUTHALWAYSHURTS.7867 Oh please anyone can do what he did. If he was 4 inches shorter he would never even had a single role. But to each his one - that is why we have freedom of thought and speech. Many share both views. But to me he portrayed the same old person over and over again. His speaking voice was terrible. All that he had was his presence and a strut.

    • @lawrencelewis2592
      @lawrencelewis2592 14 днів тому +3

      I totally disagree. Watch more of his movies and you will see. I've seen just about all of them. Yes there were some stinkers like The Green Berets but he never gave a bad performance.

    • @alpha-omega2362
      @alpha-omega2362 13 днів тому +3

      weall , listen pilgrim, you don't know whaat ya taalking about....

    • @lawrencelewis2592
      @lawrencelewis2592 13 днів тому

      @@alpha-omega2362 What you said!

  • @jamesschwartz3837
    @jamesschwartz3837 22 дні тому +1

    I agree. Overrated.

  • @elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
    @elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 22 дні тому +2

    I agree with him about Bogart. I think he's overrated.

    • @68blues
      @68blues 21 день тому +5

      How would you rate Bogart in the movie The Treasure of Sierra Madre?

    • @brucekuehn4031
      @brucekuehn4031 20 днів тому +5

      He holds your attention in the middle of the screen. He has “it”. Bogart played minor parts for years, but as a star, he had few equals. It’s hard to argue his worth when you go through the film titles. High Sierra and They Drive by Night in 1940 - this guy has something.
      John Huston could see the potential and in his first movie as a director, The Maltese Falcon of 1941, Bogey solidified an image. Then you have 1942 - Casablanca. What can you say about Rick - one of the best characters ever on film and the Best Picture Oscar.
      Huston directing him in 1948 - Key Largo and The Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Then Bogey wins his Best Actor Oscar for The African Queen (1951) after Huston dragged Hepburn and Bogart (along with his wife, Lauren Bacall) into the wilds of Africa.
      Lots of truly great Hollywood movies I haven’t mentioned. In 1999, the American Film Institute selected Bogart as the greatest male star of classic American cinema.

    • @lawrencelewis2592
      @lawrencelewis2592 14 днів тому

      @@68blues Excellent.

    • @lawrencelewis2592
      @lawrencelewis2592 14 днів тому +1

      @@brucekuehn4031 My own favourite is Jimmy Cagney but I see your point. He sure earned the Oscar for The African Queen. The scene where Hepburn is dumping his gin overboard, for instance.