This! It'd be really interesting to compare a Westcott Bi-Color Flexlight (which for a 1x2 is north of $1200), and a dirt cheap version from Amazon or B&H that's less than $200.
I found that a telescoping painters pole works great. They give you the reach that the broom pole doesn't. I think I only spent $20 on one awhile back. Thinking about it, broom poles and painters poles are hollow on the inside so a possible DIY built in XLR is probably possible, like the K-Tek.
Personally I use a cheap monopod for a boom pole. It collapses much smaller than the broom handle, weighs about the same, and already has a 1/4" 20 screw at the end so no drilling/tape is required. Plus it looks just enough like an actual boompole that you could pass as a professional crew to the untrained eye. You can get them for about $14-20 on Amazon.
I wonder why all the pro sound mixers and boom operators on larger budget sets choose the expensive poles? Reach is definitely one of the reasons, but like others have said, you can use a painter's pole for the same effect. I can say that I don't usually have to worry about tapping the pole just under the mic like in your test. Rubbing hands on the pole is a more likely situation where sound will be picked up by the mic. Also, most pro mixers and boom operators have to attach more substantial wind protection (blimp covers) which would be more difficult with a broom pole. But for indie film, broom poles took the win today! Thanks Griffin!
If you are a professional sound mixer, the equipment will pay for itself. You also can charge a kit rental fee to the production. Also, like said in the video, one probably won't get hired back if you come to a commercial set with a broom/painter handle. Agencies reps, clients, producers, etc probably don't want to see their sound person holding a broom pole at the talent.
@@bobunitone Agreed. I own the K-tek in this video as well as another K-tek model with the XLR output on the bottom of the pole, partly for this very reason. No regrets spending the money and it'd be a little silly to be hired as a mixer and show up with a broom. :-D
@@curtisjudd Hence the channel is called "Indy Mogul" not "Pro Mogul." A bunch of kids out of college itching to make their first short don't need a K-tek
simianinc agreed. Just wanted to point out that a broom pole makes sense for no budget indie work, but there are cases for paid work where a $700 boom pole makes sense.
@@simianinc if you're of the age you've already graduated from college then it is madness to be using a broom pole vs a cheap sub hundred dollar boom pole! (you don't have to go all out with a K-Tek just yet, but a hundred dollar boom pole will be in another league to a broom pole!!)
The reason you are hearing more noise when you tap the Ktek boompole as opposed to the broom pole, is because the KTek has the coiled cable inside the pole, which is rattling and banging against the inside, whereas the broom pole is solid and has nothing to bang. Sound is vibration, tapping, banging, or slapping creates vibrations, and those vibrations will travel around a cavity.
I just watched this video.. I remembered back when I was doing windows I have a 20ft extendable boom pole. Just put my Deity D4 on it and it works EXTREMELY well even for aluminum. No harsh after tones and it already had styro handles on it so that helps with the moving. It's perfect! I personally don't think people other than the actual camera community really cares about what you brought to set to get the job done. Broom poles don't factor you as a professional. It means you now have the utensil to get the job done for which the RESULTS will always win over anything. I got film job using my Sony A7Rii because he liked the results, the Lens won(Tokina 28-80mm ATX Pro). The camera didn't make me professional, I did
We bought a cheap bag of Velcro strips to aid in securing the XLR cable and prevent resultant cord noise. For us, these strips were a must have for any non-internal, wired pole whether a broom pole or an inexpensive R0de micro pole.
I made a professional looking boom pole for about $25. I used a telescopic paint roller pole. I heated s standard mic stand head till it was pliable and I was able to butterfly it open. I formed the mic stand head to a short cut of 2" pvc,drilled holes and screwed them together. Then I cut slits in the ends of the pvc for rubber bands, painted the pvc and the screw head of the pole black, and forcefully screwed my pvc shock mount on to the pole screw head(the plastic was soft enough to form to the wrong size metal nut inside the mic stand head). Next thing to try is run the xlr through it!
Thanks for the video, Indy Mogul! I would really like to see an episode comparing cheaper ND filters to more expensive ND filters. I'm looking to buy one but reviews are always mixed between the two price-points. Thank you!
I used an extendable paint roller pole I picked up for just £3.99 here in the UK, it's 3.5ft and extends to 6.5ft. I think it's great that you've shown that cheap doesn't always mean bad this time. Loving the new content, keep it up guys.
What I would do is 3D print an adapter so that you can mount the shock mount to the end of the pole rather than have it sit out to the side, that way it doesn't look so DIY. But what I've used previously was an extendible paint roller handle, they're fairly cheap, and still extend quite the way
For the broom pole, or even better an extendable painters pole (not much more in price) take a look for an old paint roller; remove the "L-shaped" metal rod and thread a screw in through the bottom of the handle up & out the hole, securing with a washer & nut. Now you have a proper mount for your shock mount mic holder and it can travel in your suitcase as part of your gear even when your cheap broom/painters pole doesn't go with you, allowing you to get one from any hardware store as you mentioned, and still keep the full functionality of the shock mount attachment ;)
Loved the video, pretty impressed that the broom pole held up so well. A suggestion for another video in this series would be a gimbal like the zhiyun crane v2 that you use vs a cheap DSLR stabilizer you can get on Amazon for less than $100
When I bought a 23 foot telescoping pole, I also bought a $5 mini paint roller that screwed onto it. I cut handle and found a hole which fit a 1/4-20 x 1 inch setscrew.
Brilliant - I use an extendable plastic mop pole with the same results only it collapses down to half the size to about 3 1/2 feet so fits in my light stand bag really easily.
I used a heavy duty aluminum monopole that collapsed down nicely. It extended nearly 5.5 feet and had a shock absorber 1/4-20 mic mount that worked great.
Showing that there's basically no difference between a broom handle and a $600 boom pole pretty much covers the entire gambit. Kind of just shows how insignificant the price point is, as long as the job gets done.
I completely understand that and agree. But there’s still the element of looking professional. I’m all down for and have used a broom pole. But if I was gonna invest a buck, I’d buy a boom pole, but not an expensive one like that.
I have a boom pole for ten years that does everything his did but isn’t carbon fiber and it cost me $130. Nothing beats having the cable inside it. And the broom handle isn’t long enough if you want to do a medium shot.
@@DogFiles people have mentioned aluminium extendable pool cleaners can have the wires run down inside them, seems like a little modding and you've beaten the $600 counterpart.
Indy Mogul has been there for me since the beginning. Back when I was just messing around with cameras in middle school when it was hosted by the other guy, then once it went dark and got picked up by Griffin now after finishing film school and moved to LA. You guys are awesome never stop!
I remember wwatching you guys when I was 13 and making videos with my friends Now I'm attending Film School and I'm so glad you're still providing content
what we used was a telescoping Paint Roller Extension Pole with an non coiled XLR dropped through a hole in both ends we would collapse or extend it IMMEDIATELY upon getting it out so, the majority of the time it was visible ,it just looked "normal"
There are crazy affordable chinese boom poles (sub $100, which are more than good enough to just "get the job done") that I think it insanity to try and save a few pennies by using a broom pole / painters pole instead.
I'm using a very cheap Koolertron boom pole which has as cable pass through. Now I do have to use a thinner XLR cable, but for the cost, it's worth it.
How about a painter’s pole? Same as the broom pole but extends. I have one that goes from something like eight to 16 feet (extends only once) so like your broom stick definitely not portable, BUT cheap enough to buy one anywhere. I use it primarily to get the camera really high up in the air. It’s awesome!
It's hard to take a test like this seriously when the tester has issues with a simple screw-lock, or considers headphones being something just for checking handling noise. But for someone very inexperienced, maybe those could be issues somehow, there's one thing that makes this test very unreliable even for a DIY-test: Always use the exact same microphone in the exact same shockmount when doing comparisons like this. Using two completely different mics WILL lead to very unreliable results. Myself, I changed from a wooden broom-handle with a screw fixed at the end through a drilled hole at the top and some chemical steel to seal the deal. Most certainly worked very well, and I still have it around, but I seriously did not miss the lack of telescopic settings nor poor grip when changing to Klassic K102 CCR. What makes the K-Tek booms so good compared to other professional booms are several things, most of which are hard to explain as they are more of a "feeling" thing like sturdiness and such, but mainly the super-reliable locking-rings. I've had mine for well over 10 years, and in service, it feels like I just bought it! K-Tek is incredibly reliable, and on set, reliability is king. (Not sponsored, just a fan) Other than those things, I do appreciate these videos, not least since DIY is most certainly a much better, or even great way, to start than waiting for expensive gear that might never even turn up the first place. In further videos, please mind consistency, because you do bring up a valid point: Can these things be used agony-free until you can afford the good stuff? Or for people with less professional intentions full stop?
Great video, Griffin! If you need something cheap but longer than a broomstick, check out paint poles. They're collapsible, and some go to 12-plus feet.
I use a painter's pole that has one telescoping section. I epoxied a 3/8 screw on the end to mount the shock mount. It works just as well was the broom pole and it costs $10 too. Here is the link to it on Home Depot 's website: thd.co/2qk8bu8
Ah, I'm terrible. Sorry Matt! I should've credited you. HEY EVERYONE READING THIS, excellent photographer Matt Edwards took every photo of me and William Shatner! But who took the photo of you and me and Joe behind the garbage trucks?
I think Shatner would love the idea of using a cheap pole that does just as good of a job as an expensive pole. I think he would say: "You're kidding!", "That's great!".
Have you tried a collapsible fishing rod? I haven't tried it myself, but I would think that it would pack well; just remove the last section (which would be too skinny for use).
I started out with just a zoom h 1 and rode video micro audio, no one complained about the audio as sounded decent. I upgraded to a rode video mic pro +. A major bump in quality.
For an extendable cheap pole, look at painting poles in the hardware store. With a little creativity, you could probably fashion a pre-made adapter for those poles, as almost all of them use the same thread.
That integrated mic cable is a gigantic pain and will more than likely get frayed/break after a few months of using it... so, you'll be using an external XLR cable anyway.
I'm looking at telescopic carbon fibre poles in the UK and Gardiner make a range of poles for window cleaners starting at around £79 which might work nicely ?
I really feel like boom poles are the biggest racket in the film industry. Like... I can wrap my own XLR cable around a painter's pole. Worst case, I need a couple zip ties to secure it.
Hey Griffin, you _SAY_ that both the broompole and the $600 graphite boom pole are equally effective as cat toys, but I didn't see any comparison videos. Can you do a follow up where you play with your cat with the $600 boom pole for comparison? 😼
It was a project I wrote, directed, shot, edited when I worked at State Farm in 2011. It got nearly a million views-and actually saved a lot of people from burning down their houses!-but State Farm eventually removed it from UA-cam, because I believe the contract with Shatner wasn't a perpetual license. I see someone re-uploaded a low-quality version: ua-cam.com/video/Z4Qxqmhqj1A/v-deo.html
I don't think you're being very objective at all... You compare these two boom poles from a videographers point of view, not really from a boom operators perspective. Portability: If you travel a lot and buy a new broomstick in each location, in time it will add up in cost, time and effort - especially if you consider the gas or other expenses to make an extra trip to a hardware store. You'll also either need to carry your drill with you or find one in each of your location. The K-Tek boompole will last decades if you take good care of it, and it's obviously much smaller than the broomstick. Even if it doesn't exactly fit in a backbag, you can put it in your tripod bag. And if you're solely a sound person, you can easily find a way to carry a small thing like that with you. Ease of use: If you don't like the internal cable after all, there's no need to get one :) Many people prefer external cables. Gaffers tape can help to keep the cable in place if that is your main worry. To my experience, the K-Tek grips do almost act like latches since you only need to rotate them so very little to open and close them. Also, making the boom poles the same length is not the only way to compare the two. Say you have a ultra wide shot and you need to get the boom close: the 9 ft of range is totally an advantage at that point. The K-Tek can also be adjusted shorter than the broomstick which is an advantage in very small rooms. Also, since the shock mount is pointed straight forward in the K-Tek (like it's designed), not towards the ground like on the broom stick, you have a couple of advantages: it's less effort to hold the mic higher (above the frame line), and you can adjust the angle of the shock mount more to your advantage in varying situations. You can also add more heavy duty windcovers on the K-Tek, I don't think the broomstick would be very usable at that point. I can see that the broom stick does have it's uses, but it really seems like a one trick pony to me, and by sheer luck it happened to be the trick that suits you. I would've loved to see a comparison between a cheap but still a purposefully designed boom pole versus the K-Tek. The broom stick is just so obviously not a very versatile piece of equipment for a sound person - much like a stool doesn't make a very good tripod for a camera operator, even though it CAN get the job done. I still love the idea of the cheap vs expensive things series, I just wish you'd take a more comprehensive look at the equipment and consider what each piece of equipment can or can not do. The advantage of a proper boom pole is not only that it gives you a more pro image: there are many practical benefits that apply even in indie filmmaking. PS. I think your boom operator form was completely fine! :D
What else should Griffin put to the test?
Cheap lights like work lights at home Depot I got some for 10 bucks a pice. Vs Aputure lights or the 35 dollar Lav Vs. Expensive one
I would love to see a pro with a ridiculously bad gear vs a novice with the best gear possible
a gimbal like the zhiyun crane v2 that you use vs a cheap DSLR stabilizer you can get on Amazon for less than $100
Peco Ultraclamp and any super expensive clamp :) I think tripods would be a cool topic too!
ND filters! That would be an incredibly useful video. Thanks! :)
I think we would all love to see an episode covering cheap vs. expensive lighting of the same variety. Am I the only one?
This! It'd be really interesting to compare a Westcott Bi-Color Flexlight (which for a 1x2 is north of $1200), and a dirt cheap version from Amazon or B&H that's less than $200.
I found that a telescoping painters pole works great. They give you the reach that the broom pole doesn't. I think I only spent $20 on one awhile back. Thinking about it, broom poles and painters poles are hollow on the inside so a possible DIY built in XLR is probably possible, like the K-Tek.
I was thinking the same thing. Just take the ends off of the pole and run a cable through it.
The aluminum extendable pool "tool" pole is awesome and lets you run the cord down the middle
Thanks for the idea, on my way to get one :)
Thanks, see one at Lowe's for 10 bucks..
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Good job!
Now you can pass on into that sweet blissful oblivion secure in the knowledge that your life had meaning
@@haruruben everything lead to this one opportunity. I can now go on.
You rocked the boom, John!
Personally I use a cheap monopod for a boom pole. It collapses much smaller than the broom handle, weighs about the same, and already has a 1/4" 20 screw at the end so no drilling/tape is required. Plus it looks just enough like an actual boompole that you could pass as a professional crew to the untrained eye. You can get them for about $14-20 on Amazon.
here too!
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Looking at you bro.
I wonder why all the pro sound mixers and boom operators on larger budget sets choose the expensive poles? Reach is definitely one of the reasons, but like others have said, you can use a painter's pole for the same effect. I can say that I don't usually have to worry about tapping the pole just under the mic like in your test. Rubbing hands on the pole is a more likely situation where sound will be picked up by the mic. Also, most pro mixers and boom operators have to attach more substantial wind protection (blimp covers) which would be more difficult with a broom pole. But for indie film, broom poles took the win today! Thanks Griffin!
If you are a professional sound mixer, the equipment will pay for itself. You also can charge a kit rental fee to the production. Also, like said in the video, one probably won't get hired back if you come to a commercial set with a broom/painter handle. Agencies reps, clients, producers, etc probably don't want to see their sound person holding a broom pole at the talent.
@@bobunitone Agreed. I own the K-tek in this video as well as another K-tek model with the XLR output on the bottom of the pole, partly for this very reason. No regrets spending the money and it'd be a little silly to be hired as a mixer and show up with a broom. :-D
@@curtisjudd Hence the channel is called "Indy Mogul" not "Pro Mogul." A bunch of kids out of college itching to make their first short don't need a K-tek
simianinc agreed. Just wanted to point out that a broom pole makes sense for no budget indie work, but there are cases for paid work where a $700 boom pole makes sense.
@@simianinc if you're of the age you've already graduated from college then it is madness to be using a broom pole vs a cheap sub hundred dollar boom pole! (you don't have to go all out with a K-Tek just yet, but a hundred dollar boom pole will be in another league to a broom pole!!)
The reason you are hearing more noise when you tap the Ktek boompole as opposed to the broom pole, is because the KTek has the coiled cable inside the pole, which is rattling and banging against the inside, whereas the broom pole is solid and has nothing to bang. Sound is vibration, tapping, banging, or slapping creates vibrations, and those vibrations will travel around a cavity.
broom pole is likely hollow too, though. But yes, no cable. Broom pole for the win!
@@firstname405if the pole was horizontal like it should and would be in use, that wouldnt happen. Poor technique fail
I just watched this video.. I remembered back when I was doing windows I have a 20ft extendable boom pole. Just put my Deity D4 on it and it works EXTREMELY well even for aluminum. No harsh after tones and it already had styro handles on it so that helps with the moving. It's perfect! I personally don't think people other than the actual camera community really cares about what you brought to set to get the job done. Broom poles don't factor you as a professional. It means you now have the utensil to get the job done for which the RESULTS will always win over anything. I got film job using my Sony A7Rii because he liked the results, the Lens won(Tokina 28-80mm ATX Pro). The camera didn't make me professional, I did
We bought a cheap bag of Velcro strips to aid in securing the XLR cable and prevent resultant cord noise. For us, these strips were a must have for any non-internal, wired pole whether a broom pole or an inexpensive R0de micro pole.
Using a combo of velcro strips (for the lower tiers) and bongo ties (for the upper sections) is my preferred way of setting up my boom pole :-)
I use a $2 monopod normally used for selfies. I simply unscrew the phone holder and it gives me a standard 1/4 inch screw mount.
I was looking for a good boom pole and then I got this video notification, I was like YES!
Congrats on 1Mil Indy Mogul!
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Super long, light, ready to thread a shock mount with a double sided screw. done! perfect solution
I made a professional looking boom pole for about $25. I used a telescopic paint roller pole. I heated s standard mic stand head till it was pliable and I was able to butterfly it open. I formed the mic stand head to a short cut of 2" pvc,drilled holes and screwed them together. Then I cut slits in the ends of the pvc for rubber bands, painted the pvc and the screw head of the pole black, and forcefully screwed my pvc shock mount on to the pole screw head(the plastic was soft enough to form to the wrong size metal nut inside the mic stand head). Next thing to try is run the xlr through it!
Thanks for the video, Indy Mogul! I would really like to see an episode comparing cheaper ND filters to more expensive ND filters. I'm looking to buy one but reviews are always mixed between the two price-points. Thank you!
Check out Dave Dugdale's channel. He has a really great shootout on Variable NDs.
I used an extendable paint roller pole I picked up for just £3.99 here in the UK, it's 3.5ft and extends to 6.5ft. I think it's great that you've shown that cheap doesn't always mean bad this time. Loving the new content, keep it up guys.
What I would do is 3D print an adapter so that you can mount the shock mount to the end of the pole rather than have it sit out to the side, that way it doesn't look so DIY.
But what I've used previously was an extendible paint roller handle, they're fairly cheap, and still extend quite the way
Very cool idea!
@@GriffinHammond being professional is all about looking the part
For the broom pole, or even better an extendable painters pole (not much more in price) take a look for an old paint roller; remove the "L-shaped" metal rod and thread a screw in through the bottom of the handle up & out the hole, securing with a washer & nut. Now you have a proper mount for your shock mount mic holder and it can travel in your suitcase as part of your gear even when your cheap broom/painters pole doesn't go with you, allowing you to get one from any hardware store as you mentioned, and still keep the full functionality of the shock mount attachment ;)
Loved the video, pretty impressed that the broom pole held up so well. A suggestion for another video in this series would be a gimbal like the zhiyun crane v2 that you use vs a cheap DSLR stabilizer you can get on Amazon for less than $100
When I bought a 23 foot telescoping pole, I also bought a $5 mini paint roller that screwed onto it. I cut handle and found a hole which fit a 1/4-20 x 1 inch setscrew.
Brilliant - I use an extendable plastic mop pole with the same results only it collapses down to half the size to about 3 1/2 feet so fits in my light stand bag really easily.
Stuff like this is why I subscribed some time ago. The cheaper DIY solutions is what I live for.
I used a heavy duty aluminum monopole that collapsed down nicely. It extended nearly 5.5 feet and had a shock absorber 1/4-20 mic mount that worked great.
I feel like this is too extreme. I'd rather you test a $50 boom pole, we already know a broom pole is cheap and dirty.
Showing that there's basically no difference between a broom handle and a $600 boom pole pretty much covers the entire gambit.
Kind of just shows how insignificant the price point is, as long as the job gets done.
I completely understand that and agree. But there’s still the element of looking professional. I’m all down for and have used a broom pole. But if I was gonna invest a buck, I’d buy a boom pole, but not an expensive one like that.
I have a boom pole for ten years that does everything his did but isn’t carbon fiber and it cost me $130. Nothing beats having the cable inside it. And the broom handle isn’t long enough if you want to do a medium shot.
@@DogFiles is kinda a matter of personal preference when it comes to internal vs external cabling, there is pros and cons to each approach
@@DogFiles people have mentioned aluminium extendable pool cleaners can have the wires run down inside them, seems like a little modding and you've beaten the $600 counterpart.
Indy Mogul has been there for me since the beginning. Back when I was just messing around with cameras in middle school when it was hosted by the other guy, then once it went dark and got picked up by Griffin now after finishing film school and moved to LA. You guys are awesome never stop!
@filmriot too!!
Thank you Luis!
I remember wwatching you guys when I was 13 and making videos with my friends
Now I'm attending Film School and I'm so glad you're still providing content
Congrats! Keep it going!
what we used was a telescoping Paint Roller Extension Pole with an non coiled XLR dropped through a hole in both ends
we would collapse or extend it IMMEDIATELY upon getting it out so, the majority of the time it was visible ,it just looked "normal"
Long time fan. This is a great idea. I'm looking forward to seeing what else you try!
FINALLY GOT TO 1 MILLION CONGRATS GUYS (especially from someone whos been watching since 2010)
I use a $14 Targus monopod as my boom pole. It has the grip-locks you were hoping for, and it works well for what I use it for.
maybe it's just the Valentine's Day tie-in, but this was a rather provocative episode!
was it the rubbing? lol
@@JohnLuna SO. MUCH. RUBBING. Also, lots of euphemisms and double entendres :D
There are crazy affordable chinese boom poles (sub $100, which are more than good enough to just "get the job done") that I think it insanity to try and save a few pennies by using a broom pole / painters pole instead.
I'm using a very cheap Koolertron boom pole which has as cable pass through. Now I do have to use a thinner XLR cable, but for the cost, it's worth it.
I am currently using a 15$ monopod as a boom pole. It's really handy, because of the grip plus the amount of extension you can get.
I have an extended pole for painting, it extends quite a bit, and my wife put vinyl around it, so it looks legit.
How about a painter’s pole? Same as the broom pole but extends. I have one that goes from something like eight to 16 feet (extends only once) so like your broom stick definitely not portable, BUT cheap enough to buy one anywhere. I use it primarily to get the camera really high up in the air. It’s awesome!
This is a fantastic idea for a series! Please keep making more.
When you travel and buy a broom pole on location, do you also buy a drill to install the mount? Thanks for another great vid. Keep 'em coming!
In the field, if I buy a new broom pole, I just gaffer tape the mic on.
I take a drill with me wherever i go Rick.
love this kind of video. so glad you're back griffin!!
Thank you!
Love the little cameo by Andy!
It's hard to take a test like this seriously when the tester has issues with a simple screw-lock, or considers headphones being something just for checking handling noise. But for someone very inexperienced, maybe those could be issues somehow, there's one thing that makes this test very unreliable even for a DIY-test: Always use the exact same microphone in the exact same shockmount when doing comparisons like this. Using two completely different mics WILL lead to very unreliable results. Myself, I changed from a wooden broom-handle with a screw fixed at the end through a drilled hole at the top and some chemical steel to seal the deal. Most certainly worked very well, and I still have it around, but I seriously did not miss the lack of telescopic settings nor poor grip when changing to Klassic K102 CCR. What makes the K-Tek booms so good compared to other professional booms are several things, most of which are hard to explain as they are more of a "feeling" thing like sturdiness and such, but mainly the super-reliable locking-rings. I've had mine for well over 10 years, and in service, it feels like I just bought it! K-Tek is incredibly reliable, and on set, reliability is king. (Not sponsored, just a fan)
Other than those things, I do appreciate these videos, not least since DIY is most certainly a much better, or even great way, to start than waiting for expensive gear that might never even turn up the first place. In further videos, please mind consistency, because you do bring up a valid point: Can these things be used agony-free until you can afford the good stuff? Or for people with less professional intentions full stop?
Cheap CCTV lenses for MFT and DSLRs. Bought a 25$ 25mm lens and works quite nice with my Yi M1 MFT camera.
Lil throwback Friday! I feel like I remember the broomstick episode from like 10years ago lol
Griffin Hammond really is one of the most likeable filmmakers on UA-cam.
Not by Boom Operators xD
Great video, Griffin! If you need something cheap but longer than a broomstick, check out paint poles. They're collapsible, and some go to 12-plus feet.
Alternative title: Boom pole vs. Broom pole
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Please make a video about "Self-made Ikea Lenses" compare to "Cooke Prime Lenses", I guess that the result will be "Self-made Ikea Lenses win"...
I sincerely hope you have watched Sound Speeds hilarious review on this video.
Alan is a pro, and this is painful for a pro to watch
truly inspiring video thanks so much
I use a painter's pole that has one telescoping section. I epoxied a 3/8 screw on the end to mount the shock mount. It works just as well was the broom pole and it costs $10 too. Here is the link to it on Home Depot 's website: thd.co/2qk8bu8
I use a $100 boom pole and for how I work it’s needed for the extension
Uh I didn't give you a release for that photo ;) haha...I love the broom pole.
Ah, I'm terrible. Sorry Matt! I should've credited you. HEY EVERYONE READING THIS, excellent photographer Matt Edwards took every photo of me and William Shatner! But who took the photo of you and me and Joe behind the garbage trucks?
Very detailed review! I'm impressed!
I would like to see cheap mics vs expensive mic such as shotguns, lavs, and such
Guess I'm gonna subscribe since Indy Mogul rose from the grave.
Thanks for sharing! I learned a lot today!
We use a RODE carbon fiber pole and I like it, but having a built-in cable would be nice!
Get a painter’s extension pole. Usually 4-8 ft or 6-12 ft. $20-30. 👍
Do you never find yourself needing the length?
Why is Griffin so magically good at Filmmaking videos??
Thanks for saving me $500 heading to the hardware store !
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I think Shatner would love the idea of using a cheap pole that does just as good of a job as an expensive pole. I think he would say: "You're kidding!", "That's great!".
Yes been waiting for this! Whos with me in the #NotificationSquad !
Have you tried a collapsible fishing rod? I haven't tried it myself, but I would think that it would pack well; just remove the last section (which would be too skinny for use).
I started out with just a zoom h 1 and rode video micro audio, no one complained about the audio as sounded decent. I upgraded to a rode video mic pro +. A major bump in quality.
For an extendable cheap pole, look at painting poles in the hardware store. With a little creativity, you could probably fashion a pre-made adapter for those poles, as almost all of them use the same thread.
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Very nice video content! I enjoyed watching your review!
Just hold it in hands - it's free.
i feel like i went back in time watching this. just like the old indymogul!
Cheap Thing vs Expensive Thing: Lawyers
That integrated mic cable is a gigantic pain and will more than likely get frayed/break after a few months of using it... so, you'll be using an external XLR cable anyway.
Love the comparison!
I remember indy mogul had props... i miss that
You should teach how to make the boom pole
u could also get a simple mono pod with some adapters
I'm looking at telescopic carbon fibre poles in the UK and Gardiner make a range of poles for window cleaners starting at around £79 which might work nicely ?
It would be really nice to provide also metric units
Extendable paint roller
i use an extendable painters pole.
i go under my blanket to record audio lol
Great work... liked...
I use an old monopod. Its light and colapses a lot
Good report. I have a VDB carbon fiber pole bought for $75 at a local camera show. What store is that at the head of the video. Looks amazing. B&H ?
I really feel like boom poles are the biggest racket in the film industry. Like... I can wrap my own XLR cable around a painter's pole. Worst case, I need a couple zip ties to secure it.
Really? Try doing it professionally then see if you can say that with a straight face.
Hey Griffin, you _SAY_ that both the broompole and the $600 graphite boom pole are equally effective as cat toys, but I didn't see any comparison videos. Can you do a follow up where you play with your cat with the $600 boom pole for comparison? 😼
They Rycote shock mount is better than a rubber one.
hay Indy Mogul how about a pool cleaning pole instead of a broom pole?
Best solution: Selfie Stick
There's also a lot of options between these two.
Try a fiberglass telescoping fishing pole...hmm
now I wanna see your Shatner project!
It was a project I wrote, directed, shot, edited when I worked at State Farm in 2011. It got nearly a million views-and actually saved a lot of people from burning down their houses!-but State Farm eventually removed it from UA-cam, because I believe the contract with Shatner wasn't a perpetual license. I see someone re-uploaded a low-quality version: ua-cam.com/video/Z4Qxqmhqj1A/v-deo.html
Griffin Hammond omg, this is glorious!
oh I remember pre kungfu virus days. I wonder if this guy's still alive
For a second, when I read "boom pole" I thought it was another word for a rifle... I'm going to start calling rifles "boom poles" now.
I use a monopod.
Need the affiliate link for Broom Pole!
I might need it to be portable so I can film on location
I don't think you're being very objective at all... You compare these two boom poles from a videographers point of view, not really from a boom operators perspective.
Portability: If you travel a lot and buy a new broomstick in each location, in time it will add up in cost, time and effort - especially if you consider the gas or other expenses to make an extra trip to a hardware store. You'll also either need to carry your drill with you or find one in each of your location. The K-Tek boompole will last decades if you take good care of it, and it's obviously much smaller than the broomstick. Even if it doesn't exactly fit in a backbag, you can put it in your tripod bag. And if you're solely a sound person, you can easily find a way to carry a small thing like that with you.
Ease of use: If you don't like the internal cable after all, there's no need to get one :) Many people prefer external cables. Gaffers tape can help to keep the cable in place if that is your main worry. To my experience, the K-Tek grips do almost act like latches since you only need to rotate them so very little to open and close them. Also, making the boom poles the same length is not the only way to compare the two. Say you have a ultra wide shot and you need to get the boom close: the 9 ft of range is totally an advantage at that point. The K-Tek can also be adjusted shorter than the broomstick which is an advantage in very small rooms. Also, since the shock mount is pointed straight forward in the K-Tek (like it's designed), not towards the ground like on the broom stick, you have a couple of advantages: it's less effort to hold the mic higher (above the frame line), and you can adjust the angle of the shock mount more to your advantage in varying situations. You can also add more heavy duty windcovers on the K-Tek, I don't think the broomstick would be very usable at that point.
I can see that the broom stick does have it's uses, but it really seems like a one trick pony to me, and by sheer luck it happened to be the trick that suits you. I would've loved to see a comparison between a cheap but still a purposefully designed boom pole versus the K-Tek. The broom stick is just so obviously not a very versatile piece of equipment for a sound person - much like a stool doesn't make a very good tripod for a camera operator, even though it CAN get the job done.
I still love the idea of the cheap vs expensive things series, I just wish you'd take a more comprehensive look at the equipment and consider what each piece of equipment can or can not do. The advantage of a proper boom pole is not only that it gives you a more pro image: there are many practical benefits that apply even in indie filmmaking.
PS. I think your boom operator form was completely fine! :D
Good comment.
(except their boom op form was indeed utterly terrible... not helped by the bad pole!)