JJ Abrams' Star Trek: One of the Best Reboots Ever?
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- Опубліковано 20 лис 2023
- How did J.J. Abrams' 2009 Star Trek Reboot come to be? In 2002, Star Trek Nemesis just about marked the death of the franchise. Indeed, the fact that it was a worldwide box-office disaster meant that many felt the series had run out of steam. For the first time in many years, there were no active big-screen franchises or Trek shows running on TV, with the often neglected Star Trek: Enterprise going off the air in 2005. It seemed space operas were out of vogue, with the rise of superhero movies taking Hollywood by storm. Not only was there the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies and the Christopher Nolan Batman movies breaking box office records, but also a little company called Marvel studios decided to start making the own movies, beginning with Iron Man. Paramount wanted a franchiise that would be as big as these, so the decision was made to reboot Star Trek. It would prove to be a successful film, but would meet unexpected challenges at the overseas box office, which we dig into in this episode of Star Trek Revisited!
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This was my favorite of the Kelvin series. The cast was fantastic, especially Zachary Quinto as Spock and Simon Pegg as Scotty.
This fell flat for me. Hated into darkness, but really enjoyed beyond...until they used sabotage again and the ending went back to the style of the first movie
J.J Abrams said in interviews he never watched Star Trek growing up, so it’s impressive he got the job
Just like Alfonso Cuaron with Harry Potter
And yet, he gave us the best installment
The guy who made wreath of Kahn had never wanted to watch the show or movie and thought sci-fi was stupid. That's why he made a horatio Hornblower movie with Kirk and the enterprise instead of sailing ships
It was idiotic to give him the job.
@@carlredbird3054 But he and Harve Bennett did sit down and watch many TOS episodes and that's why they decided to use Khan.
If I recall correctly, he said he never cared for Star Trek, he preferred Star Wars.
While it’s true Harve Bennet and Nick Meyer weren’t familiar with Star Trek, they did take the time to watch the shows and learn what made GOOD Star Trek and more importantly, what not to do.
The movie to me feels like JJ was treating 2009's Star Trek like his audition tape for upcoming Star Wars films.
Star Trek is very similar to the Keeanu Reeves Constantine movie: if you're unfamiliar with the character you'll probably think the movie is great, but once you learn more about how he is in the comics you'll probably think "wow this is nothing like how Constantine is supposed to be"
In my opinion did a good job at casting when it came down to the JJ Abrams Star Trek universe. And for the most part I like the movies.
JJ Abrams always makes films that I feel I should be enjoying more than I am. I thought Star Trek and Into Darkness were way too far from the original source material, and even today I have a hard time getting through them. Beyond was mildly better, but that's damning it with faint praise. I also didn't really like his take on Star Wars. He has the same problem with both Star Wars and Star Trek - he makes the universe fit the story instead of having the story take place in the universe. It constantly takes me out of his films while I'm watching them.
Nimoy didn't insist that Spock be killed off. When he did the Motion Picture, he hated that, and he also was going through a lawsuit with Paramount about residuals. So, he was reluctant to come back for Wrath of Khan. Nicholas Meyer and Harve Bennett told him that they would kill off Spock, because every actor loves a good death. But he didn't insist on it. In fact, he had such a good time with WoK, he and Bennett worked on planting the seed where Spock can come back. But, this myth did linger. In fact, when Nimoy was originally denied the opportunity to direct Star Trek III because the brass said "You insisted on killing off Spock." Nimoy told them that his contract for WoK is in the archives in this building. Go and look to see if he insisted on this fact.
"I like this ship!!"
"It's exciting!!"
Lol can totally hear Simon Pegg/Scotty's voice on that.
@@ronleddy5131 😆👍
Ugh.
@@denniscarlson4674 Are you out of your Vulcan mind?
As a life long Star Wars fan I never got into Star Trek until I saw this movie. And I have to admit this movie blew me away the first time I saw it in theaters. I enjoyed it so much that I started watching some of the older Trek films
The first is passable and somewhat intriguing. Not TOO offensive to the ST brand. The other two are an absolute abomination.
You couldn't be more wrong
So much better than Disney's Star Wars
Jar Jar Abrams had his hand in that as well
@@StevenQ74The Problem was Johnson and not Abrams. Abrams should have made the entire trilogy.
First off, they absolutely nailed the casting.
Legal restrictions notwithstanding, Star Trek fell into two main traps.
Paramount wanted to "do a Star Wars" and make the movie more "Rock and Roll". This was a fatal misunderstanding of what Trek always was. Trek was not about car chases and knuckle dent fistfights, but about exploring who are are and where we want to be.
JJ Abrams was the second mistake. His lack of the desire to even try to understand the source material, combined with his reliance on gimmicks and nonstop chase scenes instead of better direction and cohesive character/plot development really doomed this movie series into a big and dumb "Fast and Furious" is space.
Abrams claims to be more of a Star Wars fan, but it shows that he doesn't know much about that either, except for the basics. With both franchises he's relied on smoke and mirrors gimmicks to cover for the lack of decent story and characters.
Well said!
Very good explanation!
JJ lacks the imagination, creativity, and understanding of Star Trek, and it shows. The only thing he has and abundance of is ambition, but not the right kind. Instead of concentrating on good storytelling, he takes the best parts of other movies and tries to mold them to fit his limited views. He then assaults you with lens flare, explosions, and rapid fire crisis hoping you won’t notice the enormous plot holes.
While Nimoy did write a book called I am not spock, he later came to terms with being Spock and wrote, I am Spock.
It's so strange to contrast Abrams' Star Trek with TOS. TOS is actually almost surreal in its aestheticism with its big splashy colors and expressionistic shadows. The tactile film grit brings a verisimilitude that's not easily replaced by digital; at least not the way that Abrams uses it.
I liked this one a ton, but beyond was my favorite of the chris pine trek films. It felt like a modernized update of an original series episode to me. And the visuals were stunning on the big screen. And im a HUGE original series fan, so yes guys.....its ok to like these movies too. I promise
The reboot totally stunk. I hated virtually every minute of it.
They should hire Brad Bird for the 4th movie
He already worked with Paramount and JJ Abrams in "Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol"
He's more than perfect to helm a Star Trek project
#BradBird4StarTrek
Brad Bird is an objectivist Randroid. No thanks.
To be honest, outside USA & UK, not a lot of the other countries care much about these franchise
Action movies. Nothing more.
They lack the compelling conversations, the characters and the clever story from any of the old Star Trek. They could have made them without trying to bank in on the Star Trek franchise.
Opening was a better love story than all the Twilight films.
The Star Trek reboot is by far the best Star Wars movie JarJar Abrams was ever a part of.
Um no. Not by a long shot. I almost walked out.
I emerged from thr theatre totally dejected in 2009, I then spent 7 years not entirely sure of we would ever see the real timeline again. Whiners may hate it but Discovery is underrated and Picard Season 3 was the Star Trek I wanted in '09.
It’s too bad it too until the 3rd movie for them to really get the McCoy/Spock bantering right.
What a horrible mistake. Imagine the outrage if Disney and JJ just rebooted Star Wars.
He invented red matter, a sin astro astrophysicist can't get over it, because it was as stupid as a floating scarf, i mean ribbon, in Generations.
casting was amazing, I loved karl urban as bones - that sarcasm!
You misspelled "worst".
When my friend and I went to see Into Darkness during previews I told him “this is the guy doing new Star Wars movies, I’m excited for those” because I remembered how much I liked this one, but during end credits of Into Darkness I told him remember what I said during previews, well, forget it, this movie sucks and l lost all confidence in any new Star Wars movies quickly after that movie.
No, I never liked the JJ Abrams Start Trek very much because it never felt like Star Trek to me
The casting was perfect
I wasn't into the lens flare
But I loved Dan Mindel's roll axis shots
As an oldtimer I love it. The cast is fantastic. My only complaint would be some of the silly kiddie scenes i.e. the snow monster, transporting into the water park slide etc. I also really liked Into Darkness.
I was lulled in with all the glam and shiney in your eyes lights. Years later I will watch the TOS and TNG movies. I dont watch the Tardis Enterprise movies.
LOL... yeah.. We all should have seen the foreshadowing how JJ would kill Star Wars and Star Trek.
To quote Coach Beard from Ted Lasso, "Nooo!" What a disappointment of a reboot. It could have been so much better with what they set up, but they just rushed everyone to be running around. Just by tweaking some stuff and changing it so he's on the path to wanting to be a Starfleet captain would have been good. Redo the Kobayashi Maru scenario and don't tell the other cadets that he cheated, so when the time comes and just about all of the bridge crew is out, he's put in the chair because he beat the no win scenario. Now he has to make good, because we know he's a brilliant tactician. I also don't think that we should have had all the classic crew on the Enterprise as well. We should have him encounter them over the course of a trilogy and by the end of it, he's pulled them all to be on the Enterprise.
This movie is pretty much what they did in SOLO.
No no no no no HELL NO, no no no!
Best Star Trek movie ever
@@christianschmidt8476 do you kiss your mother with that potty mouth?
Kirk didn't earn the captains chair, he just fell into it through cronyism and contrived circumstances
This movie certainly highlights J.J. Abrams strength as a filmmaker, casting
I love Star Trek. Such a great movie. I went to see it at the cinema in 2009 and it really blew me away. A reboot done perfectly.
I hate these movies.
I hate these new series.
They slaughtered Trek.
Initially i thought it was good, but after several rewatching, i think his new ST series is really bad
The lasting effects of its bombastic stupidity are still plaguing modern Trek today, so no. Not one of the best reboots ever. It made Trek dumb. So very dumb
I've always gotten a vibe that Kelvin Pike and Kirk and Gibbs and Dinozzo from NCIS were very similar in their dynamics and looks.
I've been a Star Trek fan since the 1990s, and I enjoyed the 2009 fillm, though I understand why some people don't like it.
Can someone please explain 1:36 , or is this just footage of JJ's production team during SW Episodes 7 and 9.
I personally find this movie to be offensively bad. It doesn't respect the source material at all. Its one thing to make your own take, thats fine, that's what a reboot should do, it's another to just flat out ignore the core of what Star Trek is, and turn it into another Star Wars/Halo-esque/actiony schlock.
I loved the part where Spock gets emotional and beats the hell out of that one guy - great Trek movie! /s
He has ruined ever franchise he has touched, Star Wars Star Trek
He saved both
we need to pay homage to blade that saved marvel so they were able to keep their cinematic universe alive
I FUCKING LOVE THIS MOVIE!!!! I even shelled out money to see it at The Hollywood Bowl, sadly just a day after losing Anton Yelchin. When he showed up in the movie and credits, the audience clapped long and loud.
3:33... Oops. Winona Kirk, not Amanda. That's Spock's mother.
JJ giveth and JJ taketh away. The entire opening of the movie is beautiful in every way. (Kelvin bits)
The Star Trek reboot was far superior to the Starwars sequels
Where's the reviews for the next two?
No. Just no.
Yes ,just yes !
I liked the Kelvin movies to varying degrees but in retrospect it was more for the cast then anything. The stories were most meh, the action was okay but nothing special, and the locations were all pretty bland. But the cast was absolutely fantastic, not just parodies of the original cast but doing their own thing with enough similarities to understand they were the same characters. I especially liked Karl Urban's McCoy but none of the core cast did a bad job at all. Just wish they were given a better set of movies to work with, the okay ST09, the not great Into Darkness, and the pretty decent Beyond.
The Bar is so low, it's probably true.
'eff those GD lens flares. They ruined all new Trek shows too! 😠
This is where Star Trek ended for me. This movie and everything after is utter trash (except Picard S3.)
It is probably the best of the JJ Star Trek movies but I barely remember a thing about it, which isn't good. I think the biggest issue for me is Chris Pine. He's a good actor but he doesn't feel like Kirk. Karl Urban and Zachary Quinto nail Bones and Spock but Chris Pine feels miscast. That said, I don't know who would've made a good Kirk.
Really? I thought he nailed it.
One of my favorite from JJ
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I'm not a Star Trek fan admittedly, but I honestly loved this movie when it came out. That's probably why, because it seems like a lot of purists don't like it that much. Didn't care much for "Into Darkness" though and didn't see "Beyond".
There is so much wrong with this movie's plot and execution, that is too long to mention. Just for starters, a maniac Checkov that runs around defeating physics every two seconds.......
I still get chills when I watch this particular movie. The entire team did an amazing job recreating it all.
It's actually not a reboot.
Bumby the man! 👨
You misspelled "worst" in your title.
10/10 film
God, no
Having not seen any other star trek content than this reboot series. I can say the first installment was one of my favorite movies growing up. Amazing rewatchability really.
Being a DIE HARD Trekie, born and raised on The Original Series (when it originally aired!), then a fan of TNG, and all subsequent movies from both franchises, I went into the Abrams movie with a huge chip on my shoulder. I was BLOWN AWAY! I sat through it two more times! Loved the first movie by JJ, and honestly, really like the last one, too. Not so much "Into Darkness"
Same here, die hard Trekkie. And I totally agree. Really liked this one, but I loveddd Beyond. It felt like a modernized original series episode to me, and the visuals and action were stunningly shot.
Me too. I watched the originals and the others. I really enjoyed all of the "Kelvin" movies. I think some of the problem is that some people who were Trek fans couldn't accept it was in a different universe and didn't like the changes made. I loved the idea of them starting it over. It meant so many stories could be new and revisited. Like the two sequels did.
No.
Jar jar Abrams hated Star Trek so much that he ruined it for the old school fans, in the hopes that he could get the money from merchandizing that has kept Star Trek alive for 60 years. Anything else said about this, is a lie. JoBlo blew it on this one
Honestly you're kinda in the minority with this one. Tons of trekkies also love these films, especially the first and third ones. Myself included.
3rd one was a TOTAL ABORTION@@codyt821
Nope.
Abram's Star Trek movies are the worst. The best thing about them is the cast. The worst is the writing, and the direction. He killed a very strong franchise. It's a shell of what it used to be. Lens flare? Stupid plots that depend on McGuffins? Even reusing the "Mining gear?" idea from the first movie in the third movie as alien mining gear? A time traveling futuristic ship that is a mining ship that happens upon Spock carrying a planet destroying McGufifn? And don't even get me started on he's screaming Khan to people who have no idea and have never met him. They were the absolute worse. Motorcycles to Bestie Boys music. Just junk. Plus monstrous amounts of idiotic lens flare.
Although the Kelvin films are not my favorite, 2009 holds a special place in my heart.
Looks nice but it's not trek. Still enjoyed it but it's brainless fun. Compare it to 2, 4 or 6 and it's nothing special.
I like Star Trek
No
Yes !.
Is this a joke ?
Pine makes a better Kirk than Kirk...
As far as movies go it’s pretty good, but as a Star Trek movie it’s not great.
I watched the first movie so many times it's so damn good. The sequels? Not so much lol
You're making it out like he was just some dumb cadete. He was going to graduate as a Lieutenant. It's not shocking to see him promoted as Captain. During war a lot of people are promoted quickly.
Star Trek (2009) is 15 years old!
I remember seeing it with my sister Cara opening weekend
My late father really liked it on dvd too
There’s so many great action scenes of the space battles, lots of callbacks and inside references to the franchise, the acting is amazing from everyone involved bringing the characters to life, and a great amount of laughs
JJ Abrams and the writers have even made their own ways of using time travel, alternate realities, and rewriting history
This definitely came as a shock to many since the filmmakers took a big risk by resetting the timeline making so many changes, in a way the older movies happened but this is the Enterprise Crew going on a different path than what they were originally intended giving them modern sensibilities and “human” desires bringing enough steamy friction
All the actors perfectly bring these characters we know and love to life in a new fashion
Michael Giacchino’s score can be very bombastic at times, like really scale it back a bit plus the movie does slow down a lot during the middle
Still it provides great visuals, surefire thrills, a well-made fun adventure, and paved the way for many of these actors making $385.7 million worldwide even winning an Oscar for best makeup
It doesn’t alienate casual viewers while still catering to the hardcore fans
And it’s incredible this got made the way it did considering Hollywood was suffering another writers strike almost halting production
Abrams and writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman manage to successfully reboot this series creating the kind of popcorn excitement you’d expect; they even remind the audience that heroes still bleed, they also love but also make mistakes
It delivers almost everything you want in a summer movie while also respecting the franchise that has endured for over 60 years
This is the movie that made me a bonafide Trekkie for life!
Most would argue it might even be better than Wrath of Khan
His reboot of Star Wars was even better! 🫠
Trash garbage movie. when I watched it in the theater for the first time, walked out after the guy didn't open the parachute for literally no reason.
Because the script needed the plot to happen?
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The first Abrams movie got the energy back. I think Abrams went off the rails a bit with the sequels (Star Trek Into Darkness) but I do like the first Abrams movie.
Jar Jar Abrams' movies have zero appreciation for Trek. They are merely generic space adventure movies.
Yes. Yes, it was.
-Picard, Sisco, Janeway & Archer fan.
SISKO.
I grew up in '90s and was never a real fan of Star Trek. Any of them. But J.J. Abrams's reboot got me into the universe as a whole. Without him, wouldn't care at all.
Never really liked the original cast movies, but I really enjoyed this movie. Fantastic cast, I find myself rewatching this movie at least once a year.
Star Trek by 2008 was dying, it had lost energy, and needed to completely begin again. James Bond had already suffered the same fate and came back better in Casino Royale. I was surprised when J.J. Abrams messing with the formula didn't draw the ire of fans. Star Trek fans are pretty chill, it seems. Unlike Star Wars fans.
The best Star Trek movies are big, action-packed, high-drama stories like II, IV, VI, and VIII, and the lesser ones are more like long episodes. Srar Trek 2009 was just the kind of story we needed.
I never minded or noticed that Kirk became captain so fast, the only issue I had was the "Lightning storm in space" description for the time travel. Just a few lines would have explained it better. The casting is totally fantastic, everyone sells their character perfectly, don't forget Bruce Greenwood as Pike and the actor who played Spock as a child, beating the shit out of his bullies.
How good is this movie? even non-Trekkies liked it, and that's really saying something.
Divisive?¿ Wtfook u talkin aboot, mate? I think I speak for America when I say that I preferred the sequel, with Benedict Bumblebutt as Khan, to this one. Let alone to the 3rd installment. The 3rd movie watched like a damn music video, with terrible jokes and a lame villain/boring climax. The most memorable thing about that movie is that it was completely unmemorable. I must say, being forgettable does not a good movie, make. Good day, sir!
The only thing this movie had going for it was the cast. Everything else was terrible. IMO.
A very mediocre film from an overrated hack! JJ, the killer of Star Trek and Star Wars.
J.J. the chad
@@christianschmidt8476 It is quite impressive. Who else can claim to have killed 2 huge and beloved franchises?
Man, I only wish JJ did for Star Wars what he did for Star Trek! Imagine if Force Awakens was as good as Star Trek? The first Trek was great escapist entertainment much like his MI3 was. Sadly, in my opinion, it's all been downhill for JJ ever since.
LOVED this movie,good action scenes also.NERO was a very-GOOD-villian and he almost killed Kirk in the 3rd act-LOL. The sound track is-AWESOME. I listen to it often,but,not as often as Man Of Steel.
The answer is NO.
You don't know what you're talking about
Incredible film