Shooting Film In Studio and How We Totally Blew a Shoot

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    The best way to blow a shoot is on someone else's dime. In this case, Braedon's dime. This video teaches you about mistakes that can be made with using strobes for lighting. These same mistakes would happen digitally, but you see your results immediately. With film you don't get to see those results until the film is back.
    For most cameras, your shutter sync that fires the flash, and then captures it on your image is 1/125th of a second. We weren't aware before this shoot that with a Pentax 67, the shutter sync is 1/30th of a second. So nothing came out on the initial shoot.
    This video talks you through those mistakes, and then explains how to do it right. So if you want to learn how to shoot film in studio, this is a good watch for you.
    Let us know what you think and thanks for being a part of our community.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 68

  • @rockhills
    @rockhills 3 роки тому +19

    I feel like no one talks about this sort of stuff as it relates to film so THANK YOU!

  • @jacovanlith5082
    @jacovanlith5082 2 роки тому +4

    Having no model
    A professional photographer.
    You made my day

  • @barneyarthur4615
    @barneyarthur4615 4 роки тому +43

    ahhh the joys of a huge focal plane shutter. Loved the honesty in this vid. The pentax 90mm Leaf shutter lens is a saviour for the studio.

    • @FilmSupplyClub
      @FilmSupplyClub  4 роки тому +3

      That leaf shutter would have done the trick. We'll have to do a part 2 soon.

    • @seanc5718
      @seanc5718 3 роки тому +1

      @@FilmSupplyClub I highly recommend the 165. Great lens and more of a portrait focal length than the 90 LS.

    • @FilmSupplyClub
      @FilmSupplyClub  3 роки тому

      @@seanc5718 I’ve since learned about the leaf shutter lenses for the Pentax. I’ve been hunting for a 165 ever since!

    • @seanc5718
      @seanc5718 3 роки тому

      @@FilmSupplyClub Yeah, they're not that easy to find. When I got mine it was the only one listed on ebay at the time. It's supposedly a lot simpler mechanically than the 90 and easier to fix which is a bonus. It's compatible with the auto extension tubes too.

    • @FilmSupplyClub
      @FilmSupplyClub  3 роки тому

      @@seanc5718 I’m on the hunt!

  • @photomaster1
    @photomaster1 2 роки тому +1

    Crazy getting a camera doing a youtube before learning as much as you can about the camera. Has to be the most fascinating thing to wrap one's head around. I enjoy seeing the luck of getting a clear image after a few rolls of film. It's amazing...

  • @chrishipop5
    @chrishipop5 3 роки тому +6

    this video is what I've been looking for my whole art career. it'd be great if you could continue to show how to use film in studio and with flash.

  • @TheKetchupPacket
    @TheKetchupPacket 4 роки тому +2

    Great teaching moment. I have the Pentax 67 so I'll need to watch out for this.

  • @CliffordGraham
    @CliffordGraham 3 роки тому

    I don’t often take the time to write in the comments.
    BUT!
    THANK YOU. I’ve had a lot of trouble understanding flash. And the way you explained in this video helped me tremendously.
    MAHALO.

  • @glennhunt4945
    @glennhunt4945 3 роки тому

    You learn from your mistakes; when all else fails, read the instructions. This is especially important for film as there is no instant feedback. Thanks for the video.

  • @bubba195776
    @bubba195776 Рік тому

    You need the 165 mm leaf shutter, I used mine all the time when I was doing portraits. It works great.😊

  • @WesleyVerhoevePhotography
    @WesleyVerhoevePhotography 4 роки тому +5

    hahaha that 1/2 shot is amazing

  • @WesleyVerhoevePhotography
    @WesleyVerhoevePhotography 4 роки тому +7

    haha oh yes the CLASSIC p67 unexpected synch issue! everyone's done it. Great way to make lemonade out of lemons!

    • @FilmSupplyClub
      @FilmSupplyClub  4 роки тому

      A massive let down getting the scans back but lesson learned.

  • @kevinpazmino6042
    @kevinpazmino6042 3 роки тому

    I did the same thing! Those long exposures have lots of potential thank you!!

  • @zoelin1011
    @zoelin1011 3 роки тому

    Great explanation for lighting. One of the best studio/tutorial videos ever!!

  • @antoniocarrara_
    @antoniocarrara_ Рік тому

    Just messed up my first strobe-studio shoot on film one week ago. Should have found this video earlier :(
    Thank you for sharing the experience 🙌🙌

  • @Klaus-macht-Bilder_de
    @Klaus-macht-Bilder_de 4 роки тому +2

    This is something forgotten these days where modern cameras prevent settings that du not sync the flash. When I started photography in the 70's my Prectica had amax sync speed of 1/40 and my spotmatic F 1/60 - for cloth shutter this was common - and the 6x7 is using the same technology - you can bypass this problem by using the LS90/2.8 or the LS165/4, but in a not too light studio environment the long sync speed is no issue - this changes if yo want to use a fill flash at daylight.... no chance for the Pentax 6x7 without a LS-lens

  • @williamcandy1734
    @williamcandy1734 3 роки тому

    Excellent I need this thankyou it was help full

  • @swernovsky
    @swernovsky 4 роки тому +7

    Was waiting for this 😂 great use of a mistake to teach though!

    • @BraedonFlynn
      @BraedonFlynn 4 роки тому +2

      Thanks Simon. That first version would have been so much better but lesson learned. There will be a part 2!

  • @john_murch
    @john_murch 4 роки тому +2

    Hey Braedon, would love to see a studio shoot with Hasselblad. Cheers!

    • @FilmSupplyClub
      @FilmSupplyClub  3 роки тому

      We’ll add that to the list. Thanks for leaving that suggestion

  • @stevenwang3396
    @stevenwang3396 4 роки тому +1

    Tough lesson to learn, but a valuable one! Excited to see the redemption-shoot next :)

  • @contaxpaulharrison942
    @contaxpaulharrison942 3 роки тому +1

    You would get the same problem with the Contax 645 you show in your vid, just at a higher shutter speed.

  • @seanfshannon
    @seanfshannon 4 роки тому +1

    You guys obviously don't watch enough UA-cam. They always talk about the 1/30th sync speed with the Pentax 67, especially if they comparing it to the RZ67. But loved the honesty! These things happen.

    • @FilmSupplyClub
      @FilmSupplyClub  3 роки тому

      Braedon responding here. I watch almost zero UA-cam. But which I had before this one. It literally didn’t cross my mind the shutter sync would be so slow. Lesson learned.

    • @seanfshannon
      @seanfshannon 3 роки тому

      @@FilmSupplyClub Hey Braedon. Probably a good thing that you hardly watch any UA-cam. I watch far too much! I hear you completely, if you didn't know it would seem completely bazaar that the sync speed was only 1/30 of a second. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the follow up video. Always enjoy your stuff!

  • @bthemedia
    @bthemedia 3 роки тому

    Should probably label this “on Pentax 67” for reference... though good advice to test any new camera system set before a shootZ

  • @bernhardneumuellerphotography
    @bernhardneumuellerphotography 3 роки тому +2

    when I saw the pentax 67 I knew how you messed up haha

    • @FilmSupplyClub
      @FilmSupplyClub  3 роки тому +1

      I have the LS lens now. Unfortunately made the mistake while filming a video....the hard part of trying to feature all sorts of different cameras in different scenarios.

  • @joeditchett210
    @joeditchett210 3 роки тому +3

    Out of curiosity, were you using the mirror lock up during this experiment with the P67?

  • @jadeaknight
    @jadeaknight 3 роки тому

    great informational video! quick question, im assuming that you had a wireless trigger and receiver for your lights. and i see that you're metering your light w a light meter, but there is a cord connected to it? is that cord from the light meter connected to the trigger or receiver?

  • @mcor1597
    @mcor1597 2 роки тому

    You mentioned the incident meter reading was f16 and you put at it at f8 to place the highlights based on the zone system? Does the zone system not use reflected metering and the the incident metering would have placed the highlights properly anway due to incident measurement? The f8 was required to balance the left and right lighting exposures?

  • @johnjefferson9914
    @johnjefferson9914 Рік тому +1

    Question: what device/ cable do you use to connect the Pentax 6x7 to the light source/ strobe?

    • @mikeesparza
      @mikeesparza 11 місяців тому

      I’m interested to know too plz

  • @zach.sorensen
    @zach.sorensen 4 роки тому

    dude im soooooo glad that you made this video! was about to shoot my first studio shoot with flash on film and didn't even think of checking the max shutter sync. saved my life!

    • @FilmSupplyClub
      @FilmSupplyClub  3 роки тому

      So glad to hear that!!! Hope it went well.

    • @NGC1433
      @NGC1433 3 роки тому

      why think at all??

  • @youfollow_
    @youfollow_ 4 місяці тому

    will it make a difference with a 35film camera?

  • @silvatorresart
    @silvatorresart 3 роки тому

    5:45 i have the exact same shutter self timer :) German made, right?

  • @gusrodriz
    @gusrodriz 4 роки тому

    Did you overexpose the film even with the strobes? Thanks Bradeon

  • @blackwingvisuals5017
    @blackwingvisuals5017 3 роки тому

    This was the reason I never got into Pentax! Mamiya And Nikon all the way :)

  • @isabelafrigerio5977
    @isabelafrigerio5977 Рік тому

    What is that timer thing called I need it

  • @smi3ly482
    @smi3ly482 Рік тому

    What film did you use?

  • @mnbeedwards
    @mnbeedwards 2 роки тому

    What was the film used and did you meter @box speed ,thanks

  • @kadaver78
    @kadaver78 3 роки тому

    My question how did you focus for the self portrait ?

    • @FilmSupplyClub
      @FilmSupplyClub  3 роки тому +2

      Sat something on the chair where my head would be, focused on that, then moved it when sitting down.....

  • @fitrioramadhaninugraha7100
    @fitrioramadhaninugraha7100 2 роки тому

    what asa number did you metering? 160 or 100 iso?

  • @thomasvandenbergh1098
    @thomasvandenbergh1098 4 роки тому

    First from the second on! x)

  • @guillermoperezsantos
    @guillermoperezsantos 3 роки тому

    That camera is one of the worst to do flash photo, you must get the leaf shutter lenses

  • @joshmcdzz6925
    @joshmcdzz6925 7 місяців тому

    That's why we no longer shoot film when better alternatives exist these days.. if you was shooting digital, you would have immediately previewed what went wrong and adapted immediately....

    • @henryaguilar2291
      @henryaguilar2291 5 місяців тому

      Womp womp, film is a medium that the photographer decides to use. It’s still a more than living medium to this day for a reason.

  • @jacovanlith5082
    @jacovanlith5082 2 роки тому

    Changing the camerra speed
    Flash speed is 1/ 30.000 ?
    Go on and crash

  • @twwtb
    @twwtb 3 роки тому

    Lowest sync speed ever!

  • @jacovanlith5082
    @jacovanlith5082 2 роки тому +1

    Good start, the music makes me sea sick.
    Not knowing how to synch a strobe?
    Are you a professional?
    A wanker's act.

  • @jacovanlith5082
    @jacovanlith5082 2 роки тому

    The dust bin will become yor best friend
    It is all junk

  • @BlackGreedy18
    @BlackGreedy18 2 роки тому

    You talk wayyyy too much in the beginning just get to the point next time