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very much appreciated, allows me to come back to the video later and get straight to where I want to be. Do you have any videos planned for smart home radiators etc...? I've got the Honeywell, best on the market (so it's said) and it absolutely sucks.
A version with compression fittings on would be nice; and when it comes to having a full flow leak, 2 minutes is a looooong time. I like the traditional surestop, having a simple switch makes people get into the habit of turning the water off before they leave the house for an extended period of time.
Nice vid Jimbo! Great bit of tech, but I don't think the app notifications are necessary with an alarm that loud, you'll hear it all the way in Magaluf! 😂
Hello mate, love the videos. Have used them for references of how to fit / plumb a bathroom. Question tho, how do you stop pipes ‘hammer shock’ when the likes of washing machine draws water and stops sharpish, or when someone turns a tap off fast. Cheers!
Hey James, I like these Surestops. Have only installed the basic model once before. When Surestop upgrades the firmware to make it compatible with Google Assistant, Amazon Alexa, Apple Homekit and the like, you will be able to have the Honeywell notification or email, trigger one of those services which would automatically turn off your stopcock. I think Surestop needs to get working on that asap. They will sell loads more units.
@@plumberparts the idea of the water leak detector such as the product by Hive / British Gas takes into account normal water flow (I am sure you are aware of this but just stating for the other readers) and even long periods of water flow such as the missus in the shower however you can set that alert for long water flow to be whatever you want. Using the likes of IFTTT to receive the alert from Hive Leak Detector of high water flow and then instruct the Sure Stop to close the water valve would mean a precautionary system that even if false alarm, the water is easy to switch back on (and then modify the long water flow alert).
Interesting product(s) and a useful and comprehensive video.👍 However you do not provide a link to the whole all ‘singing and dancing’ product - can you do that?
Cut the pipe push on the Surestop, rarely happens in the properties I work on. Three times out of four I'll have 3/4" imperial pipe which either requires green compression rings or a 3/4" to 22mm Speedfit adaptor and I hate those big ugly white push fit fittings. I use pressfit for most things now and rarely solder, don't you have a pressfit gun? Worth a future video if you do.
Brilliant vid James. 👍🏻 BTW- did you do the electrics in there yourself? Those conduits & saddles up to the dis board could almost be gleaming copper... 😉
James, thought this looked very interesting so searched for user reviews. Found quite a few negative experiences where the device ended up leaking from the body (not faulty install). People complaining about the quality of build. What's your view on the standard of contruction of the actual valve? Another great video by the way.
I've fitted loads and not had a problem. That being said, water pressures these days (especially at night!) can go up quite a bit...Could be something to do with that.
Excellent video. I already have a surestop valve and was wondering whether that would work with the controller? Or would you need to purchase a newer version of the valve?
Jim, great video and a simple device, what is the cost of the accessories to get the device automated as per video, - if needed. I think most people would go for the simple switch. Thanks
Hi Graham Atyeo. The I-watercontrol also has the switch, we couldn't get rid of the switch its too well like!!! Plumbing merchants have these in stock, take a look at Screwfix, Toolstation, Travis Perkins and many more.
Would be worth seeing if the ‘ITTT’ (If This Then That) web service could automate switching the water off when the Honeywell sensor senses a leak. Saves any reliance on us humans and delay while sleeping or away from phone. Thoughts?
Hi hope your okay, please can you recommend a small under kitchen sink instant hot water heater. Kitchen is very small needed something extremely compact and instant. Thank you
Hi GJM Heating. They work of water pressure. If there isn't an issue with the old one just leave it in place. Saves time for you. Completely upto you :-) Thanks Surestop
Hi James nice bit of kit but the problem I have is that I need to turn the water off before I can fit this on right? My stopcock under the kitchen sink only stops water going to the kitchen. I cannot find the stopcock for the bathroom, I don’t even know if there is one but how else am I suppose to stop water to the bathroom?! I live in a block of flats, any suggestions?
I have a question where do the hot water come in the hotel instalation I dont know about that can you say something about hot and cold water installation in hotel ..thanks
30-40 seconds wait time? I've got a ZWave mains shutoff motor that turns the ball valve. It reacts instantly. And if there is something wrong with it, I just take it off the valve and I can use the valve manually again. I had it installed more than a year ago and it still works perfect. I'd go mad waiting a minute for this thing to react.
Yeah they’ve gone for an aggressive battery saving strategy, wake the microprocessor up every 90 seconds to see if the gateway has a message, sensible decision for this application.
Does the SureStop restrict the flow at all? Integrated leak detector sounds like a no brainer to me. Maybe could use IFTTT but really it should turn the water off without you having to do it. Then get a notification saying "leak detected AND water turned off, don't panic finish what you're doing then sort it out"
Hi Jas Gawera. Some cases it has reduced but only by 3%. We are currently working on a new project for it to shut off automatically. So please keep a look out. Thanks Surestop
Remember this is a supplemental stop tap and not a replacement for an approved mechanical stop tap. Had a question from a developer if this can be used as the one and only in a new plot. Water Regulations say no. 👍🏻
The Slow_pulse_boy More details please the manufacturer clearly claims it can replace the stopcock on their website with links to their WRAS approval certificate.
We have been fitting sure stops on for M.O.D Properties and they are shit we must have problems with at least 1 in 5 a few months down the line and the powers that be have pulled them from the spec thank god
I want to install one of these but I just read the reviews and some of them have scared me off. They say that it has caused problems with flow and pressure and after a few months they ramdomly shut the water off. Is there any truth to this ?
Don't do it. If it goes faulty it shuts your water off and you are completely stuffed until you get a plumber out. My third visit in three days today when he turns up.
Been using Surestop for over 10 years in its first generation product. I say 'using'; not entirely true - read on please. Installed the valve and then put the on/off switch on the countertop (just means you dont have to get to the back of cupboards or pull appliances out). It is not 100% effective. It appears to use some sort of air pressure from the surface mounted switch back to the valve to close it. Out of the box this was fine but after a number of years it got stiff and required the switch to be dismantled and checked over. I even contacted SureStop who were somewhat helpful but ultimately didnt want to fix a failing product. Eventually the remote surface mounted button failed completely. Even now the local button on the valve is stiff and not easy to use. The addition of wireless control shows that they have developed the product but little comfort for those that spent money in the past on a flawed device.
I find that these things fail alot, o have had to replace the sure stop valves back to copper pipe as the push fittings fail. Not really help more hindrance.
Chaptered time lines are A OK if you are watching live concerts and you want to jump to your favourite songs, or listening to audiobooks and jumping directly to whichever chapter one left off from. A bookmark. For your content, for full context, one really must watch the entire video especially when jobs need to be done in a sequential order. Not good doing stuff arse 'baht tit! One caveat. When watching certain videos, when caterwauling is likely to start, chaptered time lines can be useful. @18:06 If I want to listen to autistic screeching I usually jump to this. ;-) ua-cam.com/video/7nIV2EIVH9o/v-deo.html "The real relation. The underlying theme"
Ah, it needs a broadband connection to work....that's a bit of a presumption. I used 5G for my internet connection. It would be much better to have a dedicated 5G connection, then we don't need to leave our router on all the time...which isn't necessary. Also, it could then be battery powered.
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5:03 'nothing like a lil bit of spit to lubricate' the incoming fresh water supply. Hope you don't do that when fitting that old ladies sure stop. Lol
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@Gregory Daniel Flixportal xD
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10:28 If i was on holiday, I would have turned the water off before I left.
I always do and tell my neighbour where the stopcock is to feed Big G
What do you guys think about 'Chaptered Time Lines'? Hopefully helps you get to the info you need faster without hearing my usual BLURB!
STATE 11 Trade Life haha! Thanks man.
Yeah mate I rekon it's pretty cool, just an nice extra little touch! Hold tight boss 👊
I saw these little chapters and I thought nifty. Then you knocked it out park with ‘Amazing Plumbing Song’ title at the end. Safe.
very much appreciated, allows me to come back to the video later and get straight to where I want to be. Do you have any videos planned for smart home radiators etc...? I've got the Honeywell, best on the market (so it's said) and it absolutely sucks.
Wicked video James! Hopefully this will be compulsory in every household.
A version with compression fittings on would be nice; and when it comes to having a full flow leak, 2 minutes is a looooong time. I like the traditional surestop, having a simple switch makes people get into the habit of turning the water off before they leave the house for an extended period of time.
Dan Reeves Their website shows compression fittings as a choice in both 15 and 22 sizes.
It was only a matter of time before these came on the market. I've fitted loads of basic surestops over the years, worth every penny.
So cool going to install this at home 👌🏾
Excellent stuff I definitely need one
Nice vid Jimbo! Great bit of tech, but I don't think the app notifications are necessary with an alarm that loud, you'll hear it all the way in Magaluf! 😂
That's all you need when you're at the bar at the dacorie palace!
Hello mate, love the videos. Have used them for references of how to fit / plumb a bathroom.
Question tho, how do you stop pipes ‘hammer shock’ when the likes of washing machine draws water and stops sharpish, or when someone turns a tap off fast.
Cheers!
Look how excited you are 🤗🤗🤗 🤣🤣🤣 like a kid at Christmas
Hi James love the video as per usual ❤️
sure stop need to integrate a leak detection system into the valve, so it switches the water of automatically. Now that would be the ultimate package.
As commented previously, this should be possible with IFTTT and something like a British Gas / Hive water detector
Ian Kearns sure stop should just speak to Honeywell, could get rid of the gateway too.
Hi wjb2 Watch this space
@@surestop if you need a beta tester and public testing then happy to get something installed
@@iankearns Thank you. Will remember this when we launch extras next year
Hey James,
I like these Surestops. Have only installed the basic model once before.
When Surestop upgrades the firmware to make it compatible with Google Assistant, Amazon Alexa, Apple Homekit and the like, you will be able to have the Honeywell notification or email, trigger one of those services which would automatically turn off your stopcock.
I think Surestop needs to get working on that asap. They will sell loads more units.
Christian B Hough the thing about the ‘auto shut off’ is the ‘leak’ could be me at 7am with a cup of tea! 😂😂 Have you been on any Ale Army’s of late?
@@plumberparts the idea of the water leak detector such as the product by Hive / British Gas takes into account normal water flow (I am sure you are aware of this but just stating for the other readers) and even long periods of water flow such as the missus in the shower however you can set that alert for long water flow to be whatever you want. Using the likes of IFTTT to receive the alert from Hive Leak Detector of high water flow and then instruct the Sure Stop to close the water valve would mean a precautionary system that even if false alarm, the water is easy to switch back on (and then modify the long water flow alert).
Hi Christian B Hough. Already working on it :-) Keep an eye out. Thanks Surestop
perfect for detecting when the sure stop itself is leaking
Interesting product(s) and a useful and comprehensive video.👍 However you do not provide a link to the whole all ‘singing and dancing’ product - can you do that?
Hi Norman Boyes
www.surestop.co.uk/product-range/iot-connect-15mm-ss-15-pl-cs
Cut the pipe push on the Surestop, rarely happens in the properties I work on. Three times out of four I'll have 3/4" imperial pipe which either requires green compression rings or a 3/4" to 22mm Speedfit adaptor and I hate those big ugly white push fit fittings. I use pressfit for most things now and rarely solder, don't you have a pressfit gun? Worth a future video if you do.
@plumberparts please start a Discord server!
Ah dr.Pipe good to see u again
On detecting a leak this needs to immediately turn the water off, and THEN inform you it's done so.
If this device is supported by IFTTT then this would be possible
Brilliant vid James. 👍🏻 BTW- did you do the electrics in there yourself? Those conduits & saddles up to the dis board could almost be gleaming copper... 😉
love it but is there a vavle that cuts of the 2 pips
James, thought this looked very interesting so searched for user reviews. Found quite a few negative experiences where the device ended up leaking from the body (not faulty install). People complaining about the quality of build. What's your view on the standard of contruction of the actual valve? Another great video by the way.
I've fitted loads and not had a problem. That being said, water pressures these days (especially at night!) can go up quite a bit...Could be something to do with that.
I don’t get how these work me yeah they’re brilliant but how does it know the difference between running a tap and a leak ?
New subscriber educational and interesting channel keep up the good work 👍🏼
Excellent video. I already have a surestop valve and was wondering whether that would work with the controller? Or would you need to purchase a newer version of the valve?
Hi DoKanLio It can work with current valve, however there is a new valve supplied in the box. Thanks Surestop
Jim, great video and a simple device, what is the cost of the accessories to get the device automated as per video, - if needed.
I think most people would go for the simple switch. Thanks
Hi Graham Atyeo. The I-watercontrol also has the switch, we couldn't get rid of the switch its too well like!!! Plumbing merchants have these in stock, take a look at Screwfix, Toolstation, Travis Perkins and many more.
Would be worth seeing if the ‘ITTT’ (If This Then That) web service could automate switching the water off when the Honeywell sensor senses a leak. Saves any reliance on us humans and delay while sleeping or away from phone. Thoughts?
Hi AlHos - wait and see :-) Thanks Surestop
Hi hope your okay, please can you recommend a small under kitchen sink instant hot water heater. Kitchen is very small needed something extremely compact and instant. Thank you
Hi buddy, these work off pneumatic pressure right? Also is it best to ditch old stopcock?
Hi GJM Heating. They work of water pressure. If there isn't an issue with the old one just leave it in place. Saves time for you. Completely upto you :-) Thanks Surestop
Hi James nice bit of kit but the problem I have is that I need to turn the water off before I can fit this on right? My stopcock under the kitchen sink only stops water going to the kitchen. I cannot find the stopcock for the bathroom, I don’t even know if there is one but how else am I suppose to stop water to the bathroom?! I live in a block of flats, any suggestions?
good video..is his product still one to look at 3 years on?
Yeah man Sure stop are still good.
@@plumberparts thanks
10:42 - is this the "ripple effect"? Water turns off, motion occurs in your back garden. I'll get my coat...
I have a question where do the hot water come in the hotel instalation I dont know about that can you say something about hot and cold water installation in hotel ..thanks
How about leaks in vented gravity fed hot water?
30-40 seconds wait time? I've got a ZWave mains shutoff motor that turns the ball valve. It reacts instantly. And if there is something wrong with it, I just take it off the valve and I can use the valve manually again. I had it installed more than a year ago and it still works perfect. I'd go mad waiting a minute for this thing to react.
Yeah they’ve gone for an aggressive battery saving strategy, wake the microprocessor up every 90 seconds to see if the gateway has a message, sensible decision for this application.
Hi James can you kindly recomend a impact drill. I have a budget of £150. Many thanks.
Can the leak detector turn off the water without human intervention?
Hi Martin Dorrance. Will be able to really soon :-)
I'm always very sceptical of something relying on a third party's servers that can be shut off at any time.
do you have any videos of saniflows or macirators, might be having a job soon where i have to swap regularly :D
Covid 19 and the plumber is putting spit on something on the main at a early point before any tees. The possibilities are endless
Wot ! No flow electronic water meter ?
Does the SureStop restrict the flow at all?
Integrated leak detector sounds like a no brainer to me. Maybe could use IFTTT but really it should turn the water off without you having to do it. Then get a notification saying "leak detected AND water turned off, don't panic finish what you're doing then sort it out"
Hi Jas Gawera. Some cases it has reduced but only by 3%. We are currently working on a new project for it to shut off automatically. So please keep a look out. Thanks Surestop
Remember this is a supplemental stop tap and not a replacement for an approved mechanical stop tap. Had a question from a developer if this can be used as the one and only in a new plot. Water Regulations say no. 👍🏻
The Slow_pulse_boy More details please the manufacturer clearly claims it can replace the stopcock on their website with links to their WRAS approval certificate.
We have been fitting sure stops on for M.O.D Properties and they are shit we must have problems with at least 1 in 5 a few months down the line and the powers that be have pulled them from the spec thank god
same, we stopped fitting them, just give the old tenants a long arm ball valve in an accessible place.
I want to install one of these but I just read the reviews and some of them have scared me off. They say that it has caused problems with flow and pressure and after a few months they ramdomly shut the water off. Is there any truth to this ?
We used to fit them on a contract they are terrible mate the client pulled them from the spec nothing but bother with them
Cheers mate 👍
Hi Shaun. Give one a try for yourself. Contact us on enquiries@surestop.co.uk and we will see how we can help you. Thanks Surestop
Don't do it. If it goes faulty it shuts your water off and you are completely stuffed until you get a plumber out. My third visit in three days today when he turns up.
Been using Surestop for over 10 years in its first generation product. I say 'using'; not entirely true - read on please. Installed the valve and then put the on/off switch on the countertop (just means you dont have to get to the back of cupboards or pull appliances out). It is not 100% effective. It appears to use some sort of air pressure from the surface mounted switch back to the valve to close it. Out of the box this was fine but after a number of years it got stiff and required the switch to be dismantled and checked over. I even contacted SureStop who were somewhat helpful but ultimately didnt want to fix a failing product. Eventually the remote surface mounted button failed completely. Even now the local button on the valve is stiff and not easy to use. The addition of wireless control shows that they have developed the product but little comfort for those that spent money in the past on a flawed device.
Ian Kearns I may be wrong but the valve ‘signal’ head is the same, so the remote unit is using air pressure to signal too.
@@normanboyes4983 hope they have improved things then!
So the basic non-internet version is about £50 on Amazon. I would rather save the money and make my own system using a solenoid valve.
“Motion detected back garden” bloody sparkys popped round again
Haha!
We have 1000s of these fitted in our properties and they all fail
I find that these things fail alot, o have had to replace the sure stop valves back to copper pipe as the push fittings fail. Not really help more hindrance.
Hi Wayne Dunne. Always give us a call we would be happy to help and would love to have one back to do an investigation for you. Thanks Surestop.
@@surestop hi yes the next one i take out il make sure to send it across, please provide me with an address in which to send the item back 🙂
@@waynedunne4838 Hi please send to Surestop Unit 7 Birmingham Trade Park, Kingsbury Road, Erdington, B24 9PS for attention of Customer Services.
little note - it's eeeethernet not eh?thernet. BTW - never had a leak like this so wouldn't be my priority - now where's a piece of wood I can touch?
Chaptered time lines are A OK if you are watching live concerts and you want to jump to your favourite songs, or listening to audiobooks and jumping directly to whichever chapter one left off from. A bookmark.
For your content, for full context, one really must watch the entire video especially when jobs need to be done in a sequential order. Not good doing stuff arse 'baht tit!
One caveat. When watching certain videos, when caterwauling is likely to start, chaptered time lines can be useful. @18:06 If I want to listen to autistic screeching I usually jump to this. ;-)
ua-cam.com/video/7nIV2EIVH9o/v-deo.html
"The real relation. The underlying theme"
Ah, it needs a broadband connection to work....that's a bit of a presumption. I used 5G for my internet connection. It would be much better to have a dedicated 5G connection, then we don't need to leave our router on all the time...which isn't necessary. Also, it could then be battery powered.
It would be fine if it is a relative or something, though...
Funnily enough they’re looking into it with a mini SIM card slot.
Also on this video I was using a DLink router with a 90gb O2 sim!
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