I would just add that after getting this grip, you can roll your forearms toward each other. You'll feel your hands pinch the gun in place at the top. This helps mitigate the recoil more. Learned that tip from John Lovell.
Be sure not to lock your arms and have your elbows slightly bent. This makes your arms act as a giant very strong spring vs relying more on your wrists
Practice, practice practice.... But seriously, here are a few suggestions: 1) For many right-hand shooters, their groups are low and to the left. (For lefties it's low and to the right) This is a sign of recoil anticipation. Get a few dummy rounds and have a friend insert them into your magazine (or cylinder) while at the range. Your goal is for the handgun should remain rock solid when pulling the trigger on a dummy round. 2) Get one of those diagnostic targets that tells you what the problem is based on where your grouping is. There are PDF versions you can find on the internet and print out at home. (If using a target designed for right handed shooters, lefties will need to do a left/right mirror image of the diagnostics.) 3) Move the target closer until your accuracy improves. Don't worry about 10 yard groupings until you're consistently shooting 9's and 10's at the 5 and 7 yard distances. 4) Is your sight picture correct? Use a sand bag or other support and make slow steady shots? Are those accurate? If so, then it's you. If not, then it could be either your sight picture or the sights on the gun. Have someone else (a good shooter) shoot it. Can they hit bulls eyes with your handgun? If so, then it's possible your sight picture is not what your handgun is expecting. Have a conversation with that other shooter where each of you drawn how you see the sights and the target when you pull the trigger. 5) How is your eyesight? I need reading glasses for close-up and working on the computer. When I took up shooting, I found that my reading glasses were the wrong focal distance for me to clearly see the front sight on my handgun. My eye doctor loaned me some special lens that allowed me to determine the best strength that allowed me to see the front sight and the target. I went to the range and held each one up in front of my eyes while aiming my unloaded handgun at the target. After figuring out the desired strength, he then created an eyeglass prescription with a focal point at the tip of the barrel on my Beretta M9 with my arms extended in front of me. Having information about your handgun, caliber and ammo might provide additional insight. Plus your shooting distance and the type of targets you are using. Maybe you're just shooting ammo that is too hot for you. Is the handgun too big for your hands? Do you have unrealistic expectations of your accuracy? Some small handguns have barrels that are way too short to expect accuracy beyond 7 yards. There are some excellent training videos out there. Jerry Miculek's daughter has some good UA-cam content on grip and practice drills. Do a Google search on: Lena Michulek handgun training video
So many "shooters tips" say the same things, fifty different ways. This is the first tip that's actually a "minor adjustment" that actually has a positive effect. Thanks.
Everyone of us is built slightly different and we learn to hold a gun the way it is most comfortable for us to shoot but we should also try different ways and maybe change if we shoot better. For me it did not work and I tried several new ways but I always go back to using my old Revolver Grip while shooting my Glocks. It Works for Me and it's Personal!
@@stevekatz4372 I agree with you... Nothing I may say should ever be taken with the inference that one size fits all. It's the process of working to find what works for each of us and picking what works and leaving what doesn't that's the important thing, whether griping a pistol, rifle or learning a stance. Happy shooting, brother.
First time I hear of this technique for follow up shots on UA-cam. I implemented this at the range without realizing it was an effecting method to use. 👍👍. Thanks man.
I had a professional shooter teach me a technique that changed my life. I have become a very confident pistol shooter since then. He had me hold the gun in my left hand only and squeeze the life out of it. Then gently, wrap my shooting hand around on focus on only moving my trigger finger. The round went off and the gun never seemed to move. It instantly became clear to me. The grip of your off hand is where the control is, the shooting hand is the commander. I changed my technique. And grip hard with my off hand and relax a bit on the other and it's a world of difference. I also highly recommend a laser bullet for whatever gun you use. The free trigger time is unbeatable. Dry fire is mandatory.
Agreed on all points. Right handed left eye dominant here, shoot lefty. Strong hand acting as support hand allows me great recoil control. Have laser bullets for all my defense calibers. Fantastic cost-effective practice, cannot recommend highly enough.
@@naughtystep9856 I use a Pink Rhino 9mm laser cartridge and the Splits app combined with a target to dry fire practice. Don't have anything like the Mantis - but the Pink Rhino should be compatible with a lot of laser systems, as well as come in multiple calibers I believe.
I like how as a pro teacher you demonstrate and actually show how you need to make an adjustment rather than just film a perfect technique. definitely going to give this a try Thank you!
Should have shot with a traditional grip you discussed before you shot on one target, then shoot again with your new grip on a new target then show us the results. It's a lot better when the viewers can actually see the results. Great concept and I'll definitely have to try it out.
I was taught this the first time I shot but didn't understand why my wrist had to be angled down so hard so I started losing accuracy the longer I shot due to fatigue and anticipating recoil. I think this just fixed my problem
If you watch while he shoots, and note the position of the barrel before the first shot against the foliage in the background, you can see that this really works - the barrel returns to nearly the same spot against the fixed background after each shot.
I don't have my left arm, I think I do pretty good with my Kimber Ultra Carry II 45 acp. That is the thing with many UA-cam videos. They assumed that every body have two hands without realizing how many disabled people are in the USA not to mention all the thousands of disabled veterans. So this video wouldn't do me any good. Is good for others, I am very familiar with all my guns, I never buy a gun that I cannot take apart. Thank you for the video.
No one can anticipate every physical issue a shooter will have. Im over 70 with arthritis and many other joint issues. You may want to search for a trainer specific to your handicap.
Wow. Just tried during dry-fire, and even without recoil the difference is noticeable. Definitely going to try this next range trip - which now just got moved up several days!
Mas Ayoob had a fine video about different thumb positions, with the pros and cons of each. "Both thumbs forward" is what competition teaches... But it's much easier to have it taken from you than other positions. Look it up on Wilson Combat's UA-cam page.
Great hold. Has the same effect of canting the wrist, but without the bother and time to set up; been using this ("Ayoob") technique for many many years: Thumb print (support hand) over thumb nail (strong hand). Quick, easy, effective. Also transitions to strong hand only quite simply and fast.
@@rogerlinscott3224 I first saw and read Mas Ayoob putting firth the "thumb mashing" grip back in 1987. That and a modified Weaver, and I can download a magazine accurately with only the original sight picture. Muscle memory... It's a beautiful thing.
OK, here again is another New Way to grip your gun and I wish I had a dollar for every New Grip I have seen over the years. IMO, your grip on a gun is highly personal for each of us with a slight variation on a basic hand grip because we are Not all built alike! I'm a Old Timer and I was trained on a S&W Revolver and I carried one for many years as my Duty Weapon and I also Qualified with one every year. I qualified at the Top of my Class every year and became a top shooter but then we switched to the Glock 19 and I learned to shoot this gun at a very high level and Carried it as my duty weapon up to my retirement! As for my Grip on my G19, I never established a New Grip from my old Revolver Grip and I managed to shoot Very Well with the Thumb Over Grip that is used on revolvers! Yes, I did try the New Grip as you show and that almost every shooter has been using but I slowly found that this New Grip does Not Work for Me! I guess I'm just Old School but I shoot well and The Revolver Grip works for Me! As I said it is a Personal Thing, so use whatever works for you and Not what everone tells you to do! Shoot Well & Good Luck!
I love that grip. It also get's my sights on target on presentation. If you are always fishing for your dot, give this a try. It works great for subcompacts too.
Kevin I am a retired LEO (4 decades) a POST Certified firearms instructor since 1993 ...taught thousands of officers and citizens. Im trying this myself Sir!....makes sense to me. Ill let you know how my groups perform.
That grip also helps you drive the gun faster from target to target. Same principle as a C clamp grip with an AR. Learned this several months ago form Tu Lam. It has helped my accuracy greatly.
This is similar to a video Warrior Poet Society did. John does a similar grip style. I've tried it and found that the meat of my left hand's thumb engages the slide release occasionally while firing causing the slide to lock open.
Interesting. This adjustment is almost exactly what I was doing when my "expert" buddy told me I was holding the gun wrong! I'm going to go back to doing it my (your) way and see how it improves my aim! Thanks!
Interesting I have a very small hand and would like to know your opinion about the way I shoot my 44 mag DE I use a twisting grip, using my right hand as normal, but twisting it forward and down, with all the force I can now with the left hand, because of my small grip, I place my thumb behind and below the beaver tongue and twist the opposite way as to my right hand, with my fingers barely reaching in front of the trigger guard, This prevents me from jerking, etc, and better control. The gun seems to be stable in my hands when fired, and because I do use max reloads that have more impact, I do not find any kick back causing the gun to end up with a shell half in and half out,
I run a TLR-7 sub on my 43X and I took it to the range to see if I could use the on/off switch on the light to help control muzzle flip with my support hand thumb. It was substantial improvement in muzzle flip but felt awkward in my off hand forearm being at full tension like you talk about in this video. ...now that seems like a good thing.
This is very well presented, though it would be nice to have a comparison between a normal grip and the locked grip while shooting, and be able to see the target so we can see the difference between the two techniques
I'm starting to have a lot of problem with arthritis in my left, off hand. The only thing I know to do is switch to a 380 acp. Any suggestions of 380's would be much appreciated. I don't want a small, pocket firearm.
Guess what someone at the range about a month ago was talking about this new grip he was trying. It made his forearm sore but he said it made a big difference. I didn’t have a handgun with me. But next time I go I’ll try it. Thank you
Glad to see that last years best way to grip or stand or whatever is now passe LOL.... Yours will be in a few years. Want to be accurate with a handgun? after 50 years of shooing a gazillion rounds? here is the best tip I can give you new shooters. Get the sights lined up on the target even after you pull the trigger and don't flinch. That is all there is too it. grip any way you want... stand any way you want. use whatever gun you want. Line up the sights... keep em lined up... don't flinch. those things are actually not possible tho... everyone flinches. Unless.. they don't think the gun is gonna go off. Put one round in a revolver and spin the cylinder. I NEVER flinch shooting a laser in my 45. or dry firing. Does that mean my grip and my stance are perfect? It actually does mean (if I do well) that I am concentrating on the sight picture. I am old enough to remember when the Weaver stance came out. At this point? my advice is? Do whatever is comfortable for you and don't flinch.
I have always been taught that my thumb on the right hand does not cross under the slider so it won’t get pinched. ie: thumbs on each side of the gun, not crossing under . Works well for me.
Kevin, I noticed that when I canted my left hand down as instructed I made my left elbow lock and turned it slightly up. it worked but was that to be expected?
Not sure where everyone who thinks this is an updated technique, but I was taught a proper thumbs forward grip technique back in the 80’s when I was in a hostage rescue team with 1st Force Recon. Then the same thing when I got on my Police Dept in the early 90’s, then again when I got on with the Federal Air Marshal Service in the 2000’s. Yes, he’s spot on with how this helps manage recoil for fast accurate follow-up shots, but it’s far from something new.
Kevin this is Bill I carry a 38 Taurus I don't get to go to a range but I shoot here on the farm I never shoot the same distance ever time I would like to know what would be the best gun for me i did carry on my hip but after seeing one of your video I have it in a holster an clipped in my front pocket* can't draw fast but I love to shoot whenever I can any thoughts thank you for all your videos
For the last thirty years all I’ve seen are guys using this thumb forward grip. Believe it or not, there are other grips. The locked thumb or better known as the Israeli grip is a superb grip guys. Much better control. You don’t have to alter your grip to change mags. Watch a video on UA-cam on the Israeli grip and try it. I’ve been shooting for 40 years and everyone I’ve ever taught it to or shown it to loves it. They’ve never seen or heard of it. Why? Because like most everything else it’s monkey see monkey do. Everyone else puts a light on their AR so will I. It’s a big world out there with lots of different techniques, try some. Israeli grip. Try it
Having never been trained in shooting handguns, I intuitively used the Israeli grip style. It was only after watching like a billion hours of guntube that I started using the thumbs-forward grip, and for a while I had serious issues with accuracy. Knowing that my original technique is not only viable but also used by one of the most hardcore operations group in the world, I feel a bit better about using it again lol
You must be left eye dominant. when I see people turn their head to line up the gun sights as opposed to slightly moving the gun left, It reminds me that you’re losing a lot of peripheral vision. Your head is turned, so you can’t see what’s on the left and your right eye is looking across the bridge of your nose. These things really cut down on your peripheral vision. Check it out the next time you’re at the range you’ll see exactly what I’m talking about.
I like your instructional videos very much. As much as I joke about your gun give-aways being "Star Trek" worthy, I'm just joshing you because by the time I ever get a chance to earn your gun giveaway, the technology we be worthy of a Star Trek phaser. However, in reality, this instruction video is worth its weight in "Cold-Pressed Latinum".
Do you have any tips on how to improve accuracy?
I would just add that after getting this grip, you can roll your forearms toward each other. You'll feel your hands pinch the gun in place at the top. This helps mitigate the recoil more. Learned that tip from John Lovell.
Be sure not to lock your arms and have your elbows slightly bent. This makes your arms act as a giant very strong spring vs relying more on your wrists
Practice, practice practice.... But seriously, here are a few suggestions:
1) For many right-hand shooters, their groups are low and to the left. (For lefties it's low and to the right) This is a sign of recoil anticipation. Get a few dummy rounds and have a friend insert them into your magazine (or cylinder) while at the range. Your goal is for the handgun should remain rock solid when pulling the trigger on a dummy round.
2) Get one of those diagnostic targets that tells you what the problem is based on where your grouping is. There are PDF versions you can find on the internet and print out at home. (If using a target designed for right handed shooters, lefties will need to do a left/right mirror image of the diagnostics.)
3) Move the target closer until your accuracy improves. Don't worry about 10 yard groupings until you're consistently shooting 9's and 10's at the 5 and 7 yard distances.
4) Is your sight picture correct? Use a sand bag or other support and make slow steady shots? Are those accurate? If so, then it's you. If not, then it could be either your sight picture or the sights on the gun. Have someone else (a good shooter) shoot it. Can they hit bulls eyes with your handgun? If so, then it's possible your sight picture is not what your handgun is expecting. Have a conversation with that other shooter where each of you drawn how you see the sights and the target when you pull the trigger.
5) How is your eyesight? I need reading glasses for close-up and working on the computer. When I took up shooting, I found that my reading glasses were the wrong focal distance for me to clearly see the front sight on my handgun. My eye doctor loaned me some special lens that allowed me to determine the best strength that allowed me to see the front sight and the target. I went to the range and held each one up in front of my eyes while aiming my unloaded handgun at the target. After figuring out the desired strength, he then created an eyeglass prescription with a focal point at the tip of the barrel on my Beretta M9 with my arms extended in front of me.
Having information about your handgun, caliber and ammo might provide additional insight. Plus your shooting distance and the type of targets you are using. Maybe you're just shooting ammo that is too hot for you. Is the handgun too big for your hands? Do you have unrealistic expectations of your accuracy? Some small handguns have barrels that are way too short to expect accuracy beyond 7 yards.
There are some excellent training videos out there. Jerry Miculek's daughter has some good UA-cam content on grip and practice drills. Do a Google search on: Lena Michulek handgun training video
Select the correct firearm for you 1st and foremost
Important question, since a flamethrower is not legally a weapon, can you carry it in court
So many "shooters tips" say the same things, fifty different ways.
This is the first tip that's actually a "minor adjustment" that actually has a positive effect. Thanks.
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@@USCCAOfficial thank you bro!......simple yet profound!
Everyone of us is built slightly different and we learn to hold a gun the way it is most comfortable for us to shoot but we should also try different ways and maybe change if we shoot better. For me it did not work and I tried several new ways but I always go back to using my old Revolver Grip while shooting my Glocks. It Works for Me and it's Personal!
@@stevekatz4372
I agree with you...
Nothing I may say should ever be taken with the inference that one size fits all. It's the process of working to find what works for each of us and picking what works and leaving what doesn't that's the important thing, whether griping a pistol, rifle or learning a stance.
Happy shooting, brother.
First time I hear of this technique for follow up shots on UA-cam. I implemented this at the range without realizing it was an effecting method to use. 👍👍. Thanks man.
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I had a professional shooter teach me a technique that changed my life. I have become a very confident pistol shooter since then. He had me hold the gun in my left hand only and squeeze the life out of it. Then gently, wrap my shooting hand around on focus on only moving my trigger finger. The round went off and the gun never seemed to move.
It instantly became clear to me. The grip of your off hand is where the control is, the shooting hand is the commander. I changed my technique. And grip hard with my off hand and relax a bit on the other and it's a world of difference.
I also highly recommend a laser bullet for whatever gun you use. The free trigger time is unbeatable. Dry fire is mandatory.
I totally agree about the control. I grip my left hand tighter and relax my grip on my right hand inside it or I shoot low and left.
Agreed on all points. Right handed left eye dominant here, shoot lefty. Strong hand acting as support hand allows me great recoil control.
Have laser bullets for all my defense calibers. Fantastic cost-effective practice, cannot recommend highly enough.
@@BaritoneMonkey which laser system do you use? Thanks!
@@naughtystep9856 I use a Pink Rhino 9mm laser cartridge and the Splits app combined with a target to dry fire practice. Don't have anything like the Mantis - but the Pink Rhino should be compatible with a lot of laser systems, as well as come in multiple calibers I believe.
@@BaritoneMonkey thanks!
I like how as a pro teacher you demonstrate and actually show how you need to make an adjustment rather than just film a perfect technique. definitely going to give this a try Thank you!
Should have shot with a traditional grip you discussed before you shot on one target, then shoot again with your new grip on a new target then show us the results. It's a lot better when the viewers can actually see the results.
Great concept and I'll definitely have to try it out.
Was hoping for a side-by-side comparison as well. I'm still going to try it next time I'm at a range.
I was taught this the first time I shot but didn't understand why my wrist had to be angled down so hard so I started losing accuracy the longer I shot due to fatigue and anticipating recoil. I think this just fixed my problem
Yeah that’d be cool if the ran it side by side in slow motion too but you’ll feel it at the range
@@damedollas21 went yesterday, can confirm it works 100%
If you watch while he shoots, and note the position of the barrel before the first shot against the foliage in the background, you can see that this really works - the barrel returns to nearly the same spot against the fixed background after each shot.
I don't have my left arm, I think I do pretty good with my Kimber Ultra Carry II 45 acp. That is the thing with many UA-cam videos. They assumed that every body have two hands without realizing how many disabled people are in the USA not to mention all the thousands of disabled veterans. So this video wouldn't do me any good. Is good for others, I am very familiar with all my guns, I never buy a gun that I cannot take apart. Thank you for the video.
No one can anticipate every physical issue a shooter will have. Im over 70 with arthritis and many other joint issues. You may want to search for a trainer specific to your handicap.
A new technique to be practiced, another reason to go to the range. Thank-you
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Wow. Just tried during dry-fire, and even without recoil the difference is noticeable. Definitely going to try this next range trip - which now just got moved up several days!
Mas Ayoob had a fine video about different thumb positions, with the pros and cons of each. "Both thumbs forward" is what competition teaches...
But it's much easier to have it taken from you than other positions. Look it up on Wilson Combat's UA-cam page.
Yep. Also does a great video about different grips. I've got both thumb and grip videos downloaded.
Great hold. Has the same effect of canting the wrist, but without the bother and time to set up; been using this ("Ayoob") technique for many many years: Thumb print (support hand) over thumb nail (strong hand). Quick, easy, effective. Also transitions to strong hand only quite simply and fast.
@@rogerlinscott3224 I first saw and read Mas Ayoob putting firth the "thumb mashing" grip back in 1987. That and a modified Weaver, and I can download a magazine accurately with only the original sight picture. Muscle memory...
It's a beautiful thing.
Hard to take from you while lead is coming out of the barrel. this is not a service pistol retention technique.
@@gscop1683 Because you know as much about handling firearms as Mas Ayoob 🤣🤣🤣
OK, here again is another New Way to grip your gun and I wish I had a dollar for every New Grip I have seen over the years. IMO, your grip on a gun is highly personal for each of us with a slight variation on a basic hand grip because we are Not all built alike! I'm a Old Timer and I was trained on a S&W Revolver and I carried one for many years as my Duty Weapon and I also Qualified with one every year. I qualified at the Top of my Class every year and became a top shooter but then we switched to the Glock 19 and I learned to shoot this gun at a very high level and Carried it as my duty weapon up to my retirement! As for my Grip on my G19, I never established a New Grip from my old Revolver Grip and I managed to shoot Very Well with the Thumb Over Grip that is used on revolvers! Yes, I did try the New Grip as you show and that almost every shooter has been using but I slowly found that this New Grip does Not Work for Me! I guess I'm just Old School but I shoot well and The Revolver Grip works for Me! As I said it is a Personal Thing, so use whatever works for you and Not what everone tells you to do! Shoot Well & Good Luck!
I love that grip. It also get's my sights on target on presentation. If you are always fishing for your dot, give this a try. It works great for subcompacts too.
Kevin I am a retired LEO (4 decades) a POST Certified firearms instructor since 1993 ...taught thousands of officers and citizens. Im trying this myself Sir!....makes sense to me. Ill let you know how my groups perform.
I could see your barrel stay up on those last 2 groups. Great thoughts I'll try next time I'm out! Thanks
You just blew my mind. Been shooting 30+ years and didn't know that little tweak would make such a difference.
That grip also helps you drive the gun faster from target to target. Same principle as a C clamp grip with an AR. Learned this several months ago form Tu Lam. It has helped my accuracy greatly.
Army Rangers rock (former paratrooper, 82nd ABN)
Thanks for the training advice.
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Nice! Kevin is Cross-eye dominant like I am. I like to see how others do it as well.
Thank you! You’re the first I’ve seen pointing that out!
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This is similar to a video Warrior Poet Society did. John does a similar grip style. I've tried it and found that the meat of my left hand's thumb engages the slide release occasionally while firing causing the slide to lock open.
Interesting. This adjustment is almost exactly what I was doing when my "expert" buddy told me I was holding the gun wrong! I'm going to go back to doing it my (your) way and see how it improves my aim! Thanks!
saw Travis Haley & Chris Costa teaching this technique years ago when they were with Magpul
I appreciate this because I carry the 32, .357 Sig. Love it
Interesting
I have a very small hand and would like to know your opinion about the way I shoot my 44 mag DE
I use a twisting grip, using my right hand as normal,
but twisting it forward and down, with all the force I can
now with the left hand, because of my small grip, I place my thumb behind and below the beaver tongue
and twist the opposite way as to my right hand, with my fingers barely reaching in front of the trigger guard,
This prevents me from jerking, etc,
and better control.
The gun seems to be stable in my hands when fired, and because I do use max reloads that have more impact, I do not find any kick back causing the gun to end up with a shell half in and half out,
Watching from the Philippines.thanks.
Thought I was doing it right, but my shots do drop sometimes. Must not have had my support arm at 45-deg. I'll give this a try.
10/10 straight to the point.
I run a TLR-7 sub on my 43X and I took it to the range to see if I could use the on/off switch on the light to help control muzzle flip with my support hand thumb. It was substantial improvement in muzzle flip but felt awkward in my off hand forearm being at full tension like you talk about in this video. ...now that seems like a good thing.
Outstanding tip, and you appear to be shooting with both eyes open. Excellent!
Rob Vogel would be proud. Great tip and it works. Thanks for sharing.
This video is so informative and helpful!
This is very well presented, though it would be nice to have a comparison between a normal grip and the locked grip while shooting, and be able to see the target so we can see the difference between the two techniques
I'm starting to have a lot of problem with arthritis in my left, off hand. The only thing I know to do is switch to a 380 acp. Any suggestions of 380's would be much appreciated. I don't want a small, pocket firearm.
Glock 42 is a little bigger than the other common 380s.
Guess what someone at the range about a month ago was talking about this new grip he was trying. It made his forearm sore but he said it made a big difference. I didn’t have a handgun with me. But next time I go I’ll try it. Thank you
Glad to see that last years best way to grip or stand or whatever is now passe LOL.... Yours will be in a few years. Want to be accurate with a handgun? after 50 years of shooing a gazillion rounds? here is the best tip I can give you new shooters. Get the sights lined up on the target even after you pull the trigger and don't flinch. That is all there is too it. grip any way you want... stand any way you want. use whatever gun you want. Line up the sights... keep em lined up... don't flinch. those things are actually not possible tho... everyone flinches. Unless.. they don't think the gun is gonna go off. Put one round in a revolver and spin the cylinder. I NEVER flinch shooting a laser in my 45. or dry firing. Does that mean my grip and my stance are perfect? It actually does mean (if I do well) that I am concentrating on the sight picture. I am old enough to remember when the Weaver stance came out. At this point? my advice is? Do whatever is comfortable for you and don't flinch.
I have always been taught that my thumb on the right hand does not cross under the slider so it won’t get pinched. ie: thumbs on each side of the gun, not crossing under . Works well for me.
Claim: "There you have it!"
Actuality: No actual footage of the target after being shot.
Great info. Will use.
Yeah I feel the tension in my elbow dry firing, I feel like if I do that with a live round it'll pop out of its socket lol
Damn! Where did you get all that ammo from? Ammo is so expensive that Chicago is getting safer.
Lol
Thanks for the tips. Why doesn't the video show the grouping on paper??
I absolutely LOVE the 357 sig round .
This looks like it will work.Maybe that's why the 2nd shot often ends up 5" lower or higher
Interesting to see Kevin is left eye dominant.
Appreciate this. Never too old to learn. Tip makes a lot of sense. Looking forward to hitting the range and putting it to work.
Kevin, I noticed that when I canted my left hand down as instructed I made my left elbow lock and turned it slightly up. it worked but was that to be expected?
Not sure where everyone who thinks this is an updated technique, but I was taught a proper thumbs forward grip technique back in the 80’s when I was in a hostage rescue team with 1st Force Recon. Then the same thing when I got on my Police Dept in the early 90’s, then again when I got on with the Federal Air Marshal Service in the 2000’s. Yes, he’s spot on with how this helps manage recoil for fast accurate follow-up shots, but it’s far from something new.
Thanks for the input, going to remember this, that's what mine is doing dropping down to the left
What have you determined is the average combat distance ?
I'm going to try this with my FN 509C tactical. Should help with my red dot acquisition to get back on target with follow up shots.
Excellent, will implement it next time at range. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Good tip. I took the three part womens pistol class. I remember thinking my instructor was crazy because it felt so akward. But it really does help.
Nice gonna try this !
This technique is great. Changed my shooting dramatically
I'm getting ameriglo Spartan operator night sights and talon grips for my glock43x
Kevin this is Bill I carry a 38 Taurus I don't get to go to a range but I shoot here on the farm I never shoot the same distance ever time I would like to know what would be the best gun for me i did carry on my hip but after seeing one of your video I have it in a holster an clipped in my front pocket* can't draw fast but I love to shoot whenever I can any thoughts thank you for all your videos
Good grip always helps shot placements. Thank you sir!
Thanks.
you sir, have EXEPTIONAL recoil control! I'm going to apply this.
My LTC teacher taught me that very technique in your video. Great stuff. Thank you.
Thanks will give it a try next range run.
Kevin, Do you use your left eye when shooting the pistol ?
More video please, thanks so much for all the tips
Why would you talk about support hand grip yet only show firing hand side when firing?
You will also notice he couldn't maintain that grip more than a few rounds. That was a bad video.
Great information! I have several large caliber autos. Will definitely be trying the new grip for more control. Thankyou!
Great help! I look forward to trying this on my next trip to the range.
Also roll your hands toward each other and lock it in like a vice.
Will try!
Curious are you left eye dominate?
Looks like you are in video.
Great Tip will try it next time in the range.
Great tip.. thanks
I put my thumbs up a little rather than forward changes downward can't of my wrists was taught in my Basic class
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ASVISE
Very good advice. Will try this next time at the range.
NICE!! Although, I would've love to see the target. Next time I hope!!
Any advice on how to keep your aim steady? I can’t seem to keep my hands still and for some reason they shake.
Making it look easy with the 355 sig
For the last thirty years all I’ve seen are guys using this thumb forward grip. Believe it or not, there are other grips. The locked thumb or better known as the Israeli grip is a superb grip guys. Much better control. You don’t have to alter your grip to change mags. Watch a video on UA-cam on the Israeli grip and try it. I’ve been shooting for 40 years and everyone I’ve ever taught it to or shown it to loves it. They’ve never seen or heard of it. Why? Because like most everything else it’s monkey see monkey do. Everyone else puts a light on their AR so will I. It’s a big world out there with lots of different techniques, try some. Israeli grip. Try it
Having never been trained in shooting handguns, I intuitively used the Israeli grip style. It was only after watching like a billion hours of guntube that I started using the thumbs-forward grip, and for a while I had serious issues with accuracy. Knowing that my original technique is not only viable but also used by one of the most hardcore operations group in the world, I feel a bit better about using it again lol
I learned this from concealed carry university Patrick Kilchermann this Technique is the real deal👍
That was one of the best tips ever thank you so much.
Thanks! Your cross eye dominant easy to tell because I am. Will take this tip to the range.
Pictures or it didn't happen is a common internet phrase. Show the targets or it's not in the A zone. :)
Very good advice
Thank you, I'll try this on my next range day
Very helpful video!
Awesome Thank you looks like it makes to much sense
Great advice Kevin, I'll try it next trip to the range.
Very cool. Thanks
You must be left eye dominant. when I see people turn their head to line up the gun sights as opposed to slightly moving the gun left, It reminds me that you’re losing a lot of peripheral vision. Your head is turned, so you can’t see what’s on the left and your right eye is looking across the bridge of your nose. These things really cut down on your peripheral vision. Check it out the next time you’re at the range you’ll see exactly what I’m talking about.
Great tip Kevin. Thank you.
Feeding the UA-cam algorithm. Informative video. Thanks.
Sounds like a good technique to try out. Would have been nice to see the target after each shot string. I wonder why the target was not showed?
That's interesting. I'll have to try that. Thank you.
Thanks boss!
I will try that out!
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Great tip thanks. I will be trying this one.👍
Why do you switch camera angle to the other side when the shooting happens
I like your instructional videos very much. As much as I joke about your gun give-aways being "Star Trek" worthy, I'm just joshing you because by the time I ever get a chance to earn your gun giveaway, the technology we be worthy of a Star Trek phaser. However, in reality, this instruction video is worth its weight in "Cold-Pressed Latinum".
Good to know I already shoot like this. Thumb forward, operator style 😎
Thank you
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