Bro honestly you are like one of 2 people on youtube that has videos for this build. Are you planning on releasing a deep dive on this build please? Im really interested on the wand coz ive tried most of the combinations and aesthetic wise wand is the one that attracted me the most.
Yes I will be making a full in-depth class guide soon. I've been combing through all my footage and putting a smallscale video together, as soon as thats done the next thing on my list is the full in-depth guide
@@dancerscreiplot5695 The lequirius wand and daggers are best because of all the perception, wisdom, crit rate and passive procs they give. You get them both from the dungeon “Cave of Destruction”
Wand/Bow is more like classic Healer I guess? What would you say to Wand/Dagger or Wand/Xbow? Not like typical Healer? What would you compare it to? And fun wise. Which one would you pick? I guess they are also harder to learn and execute than Wand/Bow?
@@GrandLapika yea wand/bow has the most heals. Wand/dagger is still a solid healer but it’s more like a burst healer due to its high crit nature and it makes better use of the vampiric contact passive that converts a percentage of your damage dealt into healing for your target. Wand/xbow I would imagine is similar to that as well but i think it would have really bad mana issues since xbow uses so much mana
@@tre632 thank you! I have to admit i was searching for something else then Bow/Wand. I dont like to be another traditional Heal Bot. So ist has less utility but better Burst Heal with Dagger? Sounds good to me. Just a different approach for healing. :) bombing works better i guess?
@@tre632 Do you have like an Image for like Healer Template, PvP Template and like a general or DPS Template in Skills you use? Tried to watch some of your 9h Streams but was hard to catch lol.
Hi, may you help me to clear some point? Why don't you use Inject vernom as poison does stack with curse explosion? And, What the point of using Cleaving moonlight? for damage dealing only? the skill say that "The number of attacks increases up to 4 times upon the Off-Hand Weapon activation". does it mean the 4 time attacks only active when a wand skill is used right after or dagger must be used as off hand weapon?
Well I am using inject venom in this video. I use venoms in PvE because like you said it does scale your curse explosion and also it's not very expensive skill spec wise. Cleaving moonlight is solid damage and one of the fastest ways to stack poison, it also procs all your active effects from using mobility skills such as lequirius daggers passive and the evasion passive in the dagger tree. The 4 attacks with offhand attack just means that when you get the RnG proc to activate and offhand attack it only adds 1 strike to cleaving moonlight which takes it from 3 strikes originally, to 4 strikes with an offhand proc.
@@tre632 Thank you to reply me. I commented this on your guide video but haven’t got reply, thought you wouldn’t check comment on that anymore so I just copy it to this video. My question should be why don’t you use Vernon on pvp? Does the poison not worth it or something else?
@@buithai204 in PvP the venoms proc the barrier passive on longbow users way too often for it to be worth it in my opinion especially with how prominent longbows are. On top of that I prefer to take more utility or defensive options instead of the extra poison damage.
@@tre632 the Devoted shield that you taking about? I got it now, curse only needs to stack up to 3 times while poison needs 20 times for only 4,1% per stacks. Not worth it.
@@buithai204 yea everytime you weaken them you have a chance to give them a 3k barrier. and since poisons proc weaken on every hit you proc the barrier all the time
I am still very new to T&L so I probably don't know what I am talking about, but I am a little bit confused as to why your not using Thunderclouds in your build (assuming this is the "Dungeon | Healer" build that is linked in your primer video) for example removing the "Radius Increase" on Fountain Of Life and the "Additional Damage" on Cleaving Moonlight to make up the 10 points for "Effective Accumulation" on Cleaving Moonlight or "Lightning Infusion" on Inject Venom. I'd imagine that the personal dps you lose from "Additional Damage" gets offset by the increased damage output from the rest of the team from the boss being nearly permanently reduced by 400 endurance. Maybe I am misunderstanding something though? Is Endurance Reduction just not valued at all?
I do use the thunderclouds set-up still but i've been experimenting with other setups which is what you're seeing in this video. Both work but the thunderclouds setup is very skill spec point intensive and lately i've been enjoying playing with venoms in pve which gives me the freedom to use those points in other places.
@@tre632 Thanks for this! Would you be open to doing a wand/dagger DPS video comparing Thunderclouds vs. Venom? Most of the builds I find are for people who run a support spec but I am curious between the two for straight DPS in Dungeons or AoE farming.
This video was recorded while the larva mechanic was not working lol, all I do for larvas is just pick them all up off of everyone else, then right before the boss does the lift I drop invincible wall and blessed barrier on the tank to keep them alive through the triple slash attack. Once I land I use clays and swifthealing to top everyone back up
Hi. May i ask why are not using 3rd specialize from kami haze for PVP bomber?. Is it wake people up or something (i fimd myself that 3rd one wake people up not sure why)
@@tre632 bro for maximize dmg single target build for small scale could you please give me the skill rotate, should i keep the kami haze(1st special) for last before explode or something since its said +5 sec curse or can apply kami haze and curse after kami haze this still get +5sec. Thank you senpai
@@Bu77z Always save karmic haze for right before you use curse explosion. Simple combo is ToD(touch of despair)>sleep>buffs>decaying touch>ToD>karmic haze>ankle break>curse explosion. You don't always have to do that full combo though since sometimes you just need to be quick, depends on the situation but its all variants of combos similar to that. I just uploaded a smallscale - outnumbered pvp video so you can check that out to see what I mean
@@Bu77z Correct, I use it for the CC. It's important because if you don't apply the prone before using curse explosion they can actually block the second hit of the explosion which essentially halves your damage
@@pepinomartinez7155 Mana can be a problem when you’re pushing full spam dps rotations on top of healing. If you’re in a situation where you cant get a lot of perfect blocks for mana you will have to slow dps a bit unless you have a good tank that doesnt need you to spam swift heal off cooldown.
Would you say this is a new player friendly playstyle? I just got the game and know next to nothing about it. Was told that it's important to determine my favorite weapons early, so I'm picking between Wand, Dagger, Crossbow, and Longbow Wanted to focus on just Wand/Dagger, but I don't want to rush into something I'm not ready for.
@@morris_barada_tale Short answer: It will typically take more time to get used to wand/dagger than it would for most other weapons. Long answer: Depending on how you want to play the game, wand/dagger can be pretty tough for new players because in largescale pvp your role is initiation, damage and healing all together. If you don’t have a solid understanding of what’s going on and when to pick your spots it’s easy to get overwhelmed. If you do put the time in and master the class then you can singlehandedly be the catalyst for entire zerg wipes. There are easier ways to play the class if all that responsibility is too much for you, you can just spec full support and play backline. If you’re interested in seeing how the initiation works you can check out the zerg bombing video on my channel
@@Aaurial mana is manageable even with bad gear. In the beginning i was being very aggressive with my mana usage because I know that there’s campfires around to restore it. You can see on the final boss im able to sustain my mana pretty much infinitely by utilizing the dagger block
Soo is dagger wand the same as wand dagger? And if u had to pick an item combo to do it all like PvP pve solo grind exct what would cover most of that ? And is staff wand a good bomber dps all around class to play.. I’m so confused just installed the game… was aiming for a warlock or big dick damage mage
So generally people will say the weapon they're using for dmg first, so I would say i'm wand/dagger since my daggers are all for utility. Staff wand is good but its harder to bomb with that since you can't sneak into a group as easily. staff/wand has more dmg overall though and is actually better at supporting as well Anything that uses wand as its main dmg feels can fit that warlock playstyle. but big dick damage mage is more along the lines of staff/dagger
I'm pretty new to the game and I'm playing Wand/Dagger rn because it looks very fun. Can you tell me which skills i should upgrade to purple tier first? I can't find that on the building website that you use (maybe I'm just blind). Most of my skills are leveled to blue tier rn so I'm just wondering which skills i should prioritize now
@@Unravelled96 Hey sorry about that I forgot to include skill upgrade priority. I suggest that you prio your skills in this order: Touch of Despair > Magic circle > Sleep > Stealth (if your pvp focus if not ignore stealth) > swift healing > curse explosion > blessed barrier > karmic haze > cleaving moonlight Passives: Wraiths beckon > shadow walker > assassin’s instinct > wrathful edge > devotion and emptiness > noble revival
@@MrMoses456 lequirius wand and dagger, very convenient they come from the same dungeon and are both very good. They have amazing statlines for my build
its mana intensive cause i'm doing full DPS rotations while healing, i'm able to maintain the mana in this dungeon cause I can block the bosses fury attacks to restore mana
@@a.a.6969 actually the group was pretty bad. I had to stop to ask the dps to block simple things like the exploding ants and they still wouldn’t do it. This was pretty much a 3 man carry between me, the tank and the other wand. This dungeon is just very easy. I can solo it completely if I wanted to
@@misterkinkin Yea I dps as I heal but if you wanted to go PURE dps you can switch up the build a bit to be pure dps. here's my builds 1v1/Smallscale A: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=2237 1v1/Smallscale B: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=18900 Largescale Bomber: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=2239 Dungeon Healer: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=3958 Dungeon DPS: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=33819 AOE mob grinding: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=33813
Bro honestly you are like one of 2 people on youtube that has videos for this build. Are you planning on releasing a deep dive on this build please? Im really interested on the wand coz ive tried most of the combinations and aesthetic wise wand is the one that attracted me the most.
Exact same boat buddy
Yes I will be making a full in-depth class guide soon. I've been combing through all my footage and putting a smallscale video together, as soon as thats done the next thing on my list is the full in-depth guide
Hell yeah please do. Newly subbed and have been wanting to main this combo for PvE and PvP.
What’s the best wand and dagger? Why and where to get ?
@@dancerscreiplot5695 The lequirius wand and daggers are best because of all the perception, wisdom, crit rate and passive procs they give. You get them both from the dungeon “Cave of Destruction”
Wand/Bow is more like classic Healer I guess? What would you say to Wand/Dagger or Wand/Xbow? Not like typical Healer? What would you compare it to? And fun wise. Which one would you pick? I guess they are also harder to learn and execute than Wand/Bow?
@@GrandLapika yea wand/bow has the most heals. Wand/dagger is still a solid healer but it’s more like a burst healer due to its high crit nature and it makes better use of the vampiric contact passive that converts a percentage of your damage dealt into healing for your target. Wand/xbow I would imagine is similar to that as well but i think it would have really bad mana issues since xbow uses so much mana
@@tre632 thank you! I have to admit i was searching for something else then Bow/Wand. I dont like to be another traditional Heal Bot. So ist has less utility but better Burst Heal with Dagger? Sounds good to me. Just a different approach for healing. :) bombing works better i guess?
@@GrandLapika not really less utility, but just different utility. Stealth, smokescreen, shadowstep, extra evasions
@@tre632 Thank you again! Will check your Channel more so I get a better understanding for Dagger/Wand. :) Just started playing yesterday.
@@tre632 Do you have like an Image for like Healer Template, PvP Template and like a general or DPS Template in Skills you use? Tried to watch some of your 9h Streams but was hard to catch lol.
Hi, may you help me to clear some point? Why don't you use Inject vernom as poison does stack with curse explosion? And, What the point of using Cleaving moonlight? for damage dealing only? the skill say that "The number of attacks increases up to 4 times upon the Off-Hand Weapon activation". does it mean the 4 time attacks only active when a wand skill is used right after or dagger must be used as off hand weapon?
Well I am using inject venom in this video. I use venoms in PvE because like you said it does scale your curse explosion and also it's not very expensive skill spec wise. Cleaving moonlight is solid damage and one of the fastest ways to stack poison, it also procs all your active effects from using mobility skills such as lequirius daggers passive and the evasion passive in the dagger tree. The 4 attacks with offhand attack just means that when you get the RnG proc to activate and offhand attack it only adds 1 strike to cleaving moonlight which takes it from 3 strikes originally, to 4 strikes with an offhand proc.
@@tre632 Thank you to reply me. I commented this on your guide video but haven’t got reply, thought you wouldn’t check comment on that anymore so I just copy it to this video. My question should be why don’t you use Vernon on pvp? Does the poison not worth it or something else?
@@buithai204 in PvP the venoms proc the barrier passive on longbow users way too often for it to be worth it in my opinion especially with how prominent longbows are. On top of that I prefer to take more utility or defensive options instead of the extra poison damage.
@@tre632 the Devoted shield that you taking about? I got it now, curse only needs to stack up to 3 times while poison needs 20 times for only 4,1% per stacks. Not worth it.
@@buithai204 yea everytime you weaken them you have a chance to give them a 3k barrier. and since poisons proc weaken on every hit you proc the barrier all the time
I am still very new to T&L so I probably don't know what I am talking about, but I am a little bit confused as to why your not using Thunderclouds in your build (assuming this is the "Dungeon | Healer" build that is linked in your primer video) for example removing the "Radius Increase" on Fountain Of Life and the "Additional Damage" on Cleaving Moonlight to make up the 10 points for "Effective Accumulation" on Cleaving Moonlight or "Lightning Infusion" on Inject Venom. I'd imagine that the personal dps you lose from "Additional Damage" gets offset by the increased damage output from the rest of the team from the boss being nearly permanently reduced by 400 endurance.
Maybe I am misunderstanding something though? Is Endurance Reduction just not valued at all?
I do use the thunderclouds set-up still but i've been experimenting with other setups which is what you're seeing in this video. Both work but the thunderclouds setup is very skill spec point intensive and lately i've been enjoying playing with venoms in pve which gives me the freedom to use those points in other places.
@@tre632 Thanks for this! Would you be open to doing a wand/dagger DPS video comparing Thunderclouds vs. Venom? Most of the builds I find are for people who run a support spec but I am curious between the two for straight DPS in Dungeons or AoE farming.
Hey, can you tell me why larva didn't spawned ? appreciate all your content it's good to see god use of daggers/wand
This video was recorded while the larva mechanic was not working lol, all I do for larvas is just pick them all up off of everyone else, then right before the boss does the lift I drop invincible wall and blessed barrier on the tank to keep them alive through the triple slash attack. Once I land I use clays and swifthealing to top everyone back up
@@tre632so you pick all larvas, and keep it to yourself?
Hi. May i ask why are not using 3rd specialize from kami haze for PVP bomber?. Is it wake people up or something (i fimd myself that 3rd one wake people up not sure why)
Yea it wakes people up and the damage is negligible. not worth the spec points
@@tre632 bro for maximize dmg single target build for small scale could you please give me the skill rotate, should i keep the kami haze(1st special) for last before explode or something since its said +5 sec curse or can apply kami haze and curse after kami haze this still get +5sec. Thank you senpai
@@Bu77z Always save karmic haze for right before you use curse explosion.
Simple combo is ToD(touch of despair)>sleep>buffs>decaying touch>ToD>karmic haze>ankle break>curse explosion.
You don't always have to do that full combo though since sometimes you just need to be quick, depends on the situation but its all variants of combos similar to that.
I just uploaded a smallscale - outnumbered pvp video so you can check that out to see what I mean
@@tre632 thank you! Just small following question for last ankle break does not increase our bomb dmg right? only for CC am i correct?
@@Bu77z Correct, I use it for the CC. It's important because if you don't apply the prone before using curse explosion they can actually block the second hit of the explosion which essentially halves your damage
Hey Tre, I couldn't find the skill/weapon specialization you use for healing on the questlog build.
@@youseebiggirl4785 here’s my skill load outs for pve imgur.com/a/md3FpTk
@@tre632 ty
@@youseebiggirl4785 np bro, gl
Question, is mana a big issue with this build? Or gotta make sure to stand on tank for perfect dodges?
@@pepinomartinez7155 Mana can be a problem when you’re pushing full spam dps rotations on top of healing. If you’re in a situation where you cant get a lot of perfect blocks for mana you will have to slow dps a bit unless you have a good tank that doesnt need you to spam swift heal off cooldown.
Would you say this is a new player friendly playstyle?
I just got the game and know next to nothing about it. Was told that it's important to determine my favorite weapons early, so I'm picking between Wand, Dagger, Crossbow, and Longbow
Wanted to focus on just Wand/Dagger, but I don't want to rush into something I'm not ready for.
@@morris_barada_tale Short answer: It will typically take more time to get used to wand/dagger than it would for most other weapons.
Long answer: Depending on how you want to play the game, wand/dagger can be pretty tough for new players because in largescale pvp your role is initiation, damage and healing all together. If you don’t have a solid understanding of what’s going on and when to pick your spots it’s easy to get overwhelmed. If you do put the time in and master the class then you can singlehandedly be the catalyst for entire zerg wipes. There are easier ways to play the class if all that responsibility is too much for you, you can just spec full support and play backline. If you’re interested in seeing how the initiation works you can check out the zerg bombing video on my channel
looks like mana is an issue but does it get better with better gear?
@@Aaurial mana is manageable even with bad gear. In the beginning i was being very aggressive with my mana usage because I know that there’s campfires around to restore it. You can see on the final boss im able to sustain my mana pretty much infinitely by utilizing the dagger block
Soo is dagger wand the same as wand dagger? And if u had to pick an item combo to do it all like PvP pve solo grind exct what would cover most of that ? And is staff wand a good bomber dps all around class to play.. I’m so confused just installed the game… was aiming for a warlock or big dick damage mage
So generally people will say the weapon they're using for dmg first, so I would say i'm wand/dagger since my daggers are all for utility.
Staff wand is good but its harder to bomb with that since you can't sneak into a group as easily. staff/wand has more dmg overall though and is actually better at supporting as well
Anything that uses wand as its main dmg feels can fit that warlock playstyle. but big dick damage mage is more along the lines of staff/dagger
I'm a new player trying to wrap my head around this playstyle. How do you level Wand/Dagger?
@@Saboteur-6 I level mostly just using curses and cleaning moonlight to get through the quests, it’s easy especially since you have your own heal
I’m trying to see your skills. Just dagger and some healing? No corrupt blast?
I am using curse explosion here, it's my #9 skill
Build please!
@@agurus9057 imgur.com/a/md3FpTk heres my pve skill loadouts
I'm pretty new to the game and I'm playing Wand/Dagger rn because it looks very fun. Can you tell me which skills i should upgrade to purple tier first? I can't find that on the building website that you use (maybe I'm just blind). Most of my skills are leveled to blue tier rn so I'm just wondering which skills i should prioritize now
@@Unravelled96 Hey sorry about that I forgot to include skill upgrade priority.
I suggest that you prio your skills in this order:
Touch of Despair > Magic circle > Sleep > Stealth (if your pvp focus if not ignore stealth) > swift healing > curse explosion > blessed barrier > karmic haze > cleaving moonlight
Passives:
Wraiths beckon > shadow walker > assassin’s instinct > wrathful edge > devotion and emptiness > noble revival
@@tre632 Alright, thank you!
What epic wand are you going Shaikals or lequrius?
@@MrMoses456 lequirius wand and dagger, very convenient they come from the same dungeon and are both very good. They have amazing statlines for my build
yo, can u update ur current gear
@@umo9646 only thing different is i got my daggers to +9 now
@@tre632 thanks bro, i have 1 more question. where can i get nightslayer mantle? i grind like 10h mitran and get zero drop
@@umo9646 Yea the droprate is horrible but you get it from mitrans / contaminated mitrans.
This looks super mana intensive. I really wanna try it tho
its mana intensive cause i'm doing full DPS rotations while healing, i'm able to maintain the mana in this dungeon cause I can block the bosses fury attacks to restore mana
@@tre632 yeah I’m trying it right now it’s super fun
@@Venti_Depresso nice, glad you’re liking it
@@tre632 you gotta teach me how to bomb people in arenas bro 😂
@@Venti_Depresso I'll put some arena clips together soon
A good group and 2 wands.. I'm guessing the average dagger/wand experience is far from this :D
@@a.a.6969 actually the group was pretty bad. I had to stop to ask the dps to block simple things like the exploding ants and they still wouldn’t do it. This was pretty much a 3 man carry between me, the tank and the other wand. This dungeon is just very easy. I can solo it completely if I wanted to
is it good for DPS dungeon sir?
@@misterkinkin Yea its good. Theres people who say its not but in my experience it can definitely keep up with the other dps specs besides crossbows.
so in your dungeon healer skill set , u doing DPS + Healer right? or u have another skill set for dungeon dps ?
@@misterkinkin Yea I dps as I heal but if you wanted to go PURE dps you can switch up the build a bit to be pure dps. here's my builds
1v1/Smallscale A: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=2237
1v1/Smallscale B: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=18900
Largescale Bomber: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=2239
Dungeon Healer: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=3958
Dungeon DPS: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=33819
AOE mob grinding: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=33813
thanks!
np, good luck
weapon mastery guide plss
More guides soon, this weekend I'll have time to work on some more
@@tre632
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LMAOOOOOO maybe korean players would kick me. Maybe they just don't realize how strong the weapon set actually is 🤠