7:36 - the thing about the Sith Trio pack? Those three have been on many people's "I'll get around to it here someday, just as soon as my X is done" list for a while. It's always been, at least for me, just on the edge of the B-Tier for me. So 20 bucks to get them done and out of the way outstrips the 'value' of the kyros and signal data.
it doesn't outstrip the value they have for me in proving grounds. I used SLKR lead traya nihilus old daka and zombie to 3 star tie interceptor and malgus PG. It took a lot of resets, but less than 100 total.
Great video! Love that they added the R7, and good that you pointed that out. Appreciate you pointing things like that out, and explaining value and the why and not making the rest of us beardless non spreadsheet makers feel silly! Stay awesome
The wat lsb is amazing for me, I had about a 6 year gap in me playing the game, when I stopped playing wat wasn't a thing, and when I came back everyone was on rote, and now I'm well over 8m gp and I have 15 wat shards. If I was to drop down to a ds geo guild, it would pretty much stop the progress on my account for like 8 months. But now I can get jmk, which wat was the only thing keeping me from getting him. After we got Kam I knew this was coming, glad it's finally here.
You've had the Wat bundle showing up? I've been looking constantly for 3 days but haven't seen it in any of the stores yet and it should've been yesterday
@@mamaabech no, i havent kept up with it but i thought they didnt have a date set for it. in the datamine didnt it say "this pack has no date" or something
Totally awesome as you pointed out that the R7 aspect was being ignored. Revan LSBs adds mercenaries so be good for the next event that uses that mercenary tag. CAT is really overvalued because her shards can be brought with GET3 cheaper than Wat shards. But like Wat, it depends on what you shards you have.
Thanks for the analysis as always Calvin, now waiting for your "start hoarding NOW" reminder :D Regarding SEE 2: I think most of the "it's the loser" sentiment does not come from a "it's not worth it / it's overpriced" perspective, but from the fact, that the toons are not THAT good if you are NOT aiming torwards SEE now or in the near future. (Especially if you already have DV at 5 or 7). Yes, you _might_ use DM/DS for the current raid. But when your guild is not at a spot where this could lift your guild to the next chest, it's not really worth it to me. If I had unlimited budget I would buy all of them, but I don't have it so I have to prioritize. And yes, I was really shifting my "what will I buy" markers quite a few times and the R7 is really tempting, but...
@@CalvinAwesome Here is where the SEE 1 pack shines a bit brighter: you can use Royal Guard with Palpatine (until he is losing this spot once SK arrives), you can use Veers and Starck with the troopers and so on. This is not so "limited" in its use besides unlocking SEE :)
Your new hair cut and beard look cute! The haircut reminds me of my favorite style my husband wears, although he tends to keep the top-center a little longer, with the side fades. He calls it a "burrito" style, but idk if that's because he's latino, or if that's the actual name of it, lol. But yea, it looks GOOD on you. You went from handsome nerd look, to modern male model look, lol! Hope you don't take offense, I'm being sincere. :-) Thanks for the swgoh data, as always!
These times, the bundles are tricky for me; having Executor, I have Darth Vader & Piett at relics (and obviously have Tie Bomber too). I also bought the Raddus pack, so have T3M4 & Carth at relics. Aaand, I got Darth Traya to relics for platoons (yes, got her Omicron too, obviously). And lastly, I am at 76/100 of the last shards for Watt. What surprised me is that math wise, it seems the R7 pack, for 4x R7's in my case, still wins out over 5xR5 (slightly). Also a remark: Sith Marauder is a sith ship pilot, Maul is requirement for Leviathan. Bastilla and HK41 are requirements. We're now seeing Leviathan characters in LSB's. And of course, double Revans bundles: Revan & Malak indeed. Malgus LSB when CG?
Another day, another Calvin LSB breakdown banger. I have vader, marauder at R7 but not maul or sidious(both G12) and my dooku is r6 lmao. Still might get bundle 1 and 2 so i don't have to gear up royal guard, and Tarkin. Sith trio bundle for $10 would be great but at 20 not worth even if they are R5.
bro that was already the case when 1,5 years ago before the lightspeed bundles were a thing. total nightmare. glad I got outta there. im in aurodium now.
Both SEE packs are perfect for me. I have Vader and Piett done but lack every single other character in the bundles at relics so I’m getting almost max value. Plus veers will finish off the trooper team from the bundle last month. 😎
Hey Calvin, two questions for you, maybe vid ideas? Hopefully you see this, I enjoy your content, rarely comment on stuff. 1) with all of the changes to marquis, dailies, quest and the like, is it better crystal value to bump up new toons to 4 star right away with a crystal pack or two and get the extra shards from their event as well as the handful of extra quests/feats from that bit of advancement or is it still better crystal value to just refresh the nodes like many people have been doing for some time? 2) my inquisitors are all just about g12. With Marrok in the mix as an r7 req, what are the ideal comps for gi/reva events and the recommended relic levels, to end with an optimized team and fewest wasted resources for the unused toons? Sorry if this is a bit long winded, hopefully it’s worded in a way that makes sense. Thanks!
First question would really need a whole video to dissect. Second question I'm not sure on how Marrok fits into the mix, just avoid to taking 2nd sister to R7 for the Reva mission. She works fine but she doesn't really have a place in the final team
I think the value you're adding to CAT is a little high because you could make a similar argument for all the toons i.e. "How must would it cost to refresh the node ad infinitum until I unlocked the toon in 1 day" Now, of course, almost everyone is going to say "well I wouldn't do that". True, but the odds are you're not spending $200 refreshing PG, or you'd have already done it. Another equivalent may be "how many crystals would it be to buy 330 shards of the characters in Weekly/Daily Store (with refreshes potentially)" which is equivalent in my eyes to refreshing PG until you unlock, so you can't, in my opinion, count the shard costs on 1 toon without doing it for the others For an accelerated toon, this would be 330 x 40, so about 10,000 crystals plus however many refreshes it would take, so you'd be looking at $100+ per toon Where the CAT bundle makes sense for me is in 2 positions only: 1) You want to unlock GLAT basically now and you have everything else you need (This feels a bit unlikely for most who can unlock her but let's go with it) 2) You are about to unlock JMK and want him to be actually useable She's a great character for sure and she does have uses elsewhere but $40 for 1 toon at what, really, is 2x value compared to 11-12x on some LSBs means I would have to be very motivated to get her That said, really enjoyed the video and thanks, as usual, for the great content (Yeah, I'll probably be getting SEE 2 - R7's soooo much and means I can put R7 on toons like GM/ME/Zombies without worrying about trash R7+'s)
Light speed bundles are optional and I got a few, and now I'm at the point that I'm getting to the end of conquest so I feel I don't need them anymore and I can go back to the grind
I appreciate these videos a lot when you make them, although It leaves me curious sometimes at what point are they bad value like if you already have them geared up somewhat. Like if I have sith trio at G12 is it still x2 or better value, or what if I only need 1,2 or 3 characters from the revan bundle? It may be complicated to add something like that but could be helpful for many people!
On my second account I would love the Revans, but I don't have room in my farming plan to get Malak... not to mention I don't have Malgus. So that one's a tough sell. But DR and BSF are such cool characters....
TBH CAT is worth while anyways. she has good plug and play with Dash early if you got that until you get JMK. can be shoved under a Rey if ppl only have her from that lsb
The revans LSB is the best bundle they could have released with JML cause before the revans were announced I was concerned how I would have time to farm Jedi revan with all these LSB coming out and JML needs jedi revan to be dominate and so this was a blessing CG gave me and whoever also bought JML cause now we don't have to worry about when we would have time to farm Jedi revan
I appreciate these analysis as always! The R7 pack value goes down a lot due to most people having Darth Vader already. That's why it's not very appealing.
I came back to the game about a month ago. I just unlocked Jedi knight luke, and I'm working towards JML. I quit about the time relics came out so my traya team is gear 12. I just dont know when I will have the time to relic my traya team. I'm hesitant of buying de lsb, would you recommend it for someone like me?
If you're really wanting a good defense team in GAC can give her an Omi then it's fine to buy it. I'm guessing the two revan packs for the same price would be more versatile for you. Assuming you don't have them done either
@CalvinAwesome I already have both revans. My darth revan team is relic'ed, by jedi revan is not, the Jolee and bastilla would be nice, but everything ese I have no use for. I was thinking about giving my second omicron to traya and the third to savage opress.Would the team be good on Def with traya omicron, savage opress without omicron and a random sith like sith empire trooper or something like sidious or dooku. Btw, it's really awesome of you to always answer comments.
@@CalvinAwesome You got me haha, I stopped after seeing the spreadsheet. I was only a bit interested in CAT out of all these and not the others since I have them all relic'd, with several at R7. I'm 80-ish shards away from CAT (quit for almost 4 years) so I didn't feel this is worth it compared to other LSBs I've bought. If I was farther away, I'd do it.
@@CalvinAwesome i know this is going to sound bad but i m dumping a bit more $ for the ascension 2 pack (30 zetas 22 omis, ) Free . 1,99$ .free..5$ that one Instead of the sith trio , i am sure with time more people will have the same issue .
I'm not even watching this right now, can't believe you're doing see before cat. And they even extended it?? Calvin I watched my recap last night and I'm in your top 0.8% of viewers and never comment on anything.. so hello there😂
I looked at the title and thought it was see only.. watching didn't watch or look properly haha. But thanks i was waiting for this video and looked yesterday and cat was extended by two days tovmake the timing perfect @CalvinAwesome
I love LSBs. They’re optional and keep me from quitting the game playing catch up for many years! Been waiting for this bundle.
LSBs are great to fill holes in your roster that you are missing
7:36 - the thing about the Sith Trio pack? Those three have been on many people's "I'll get around to it here someday, just as soon as my X is done" list for a while. It's always been, at least for me, just on the edge of the B-Tier for me. So 20 bucks to get them done and out of the way outstrips the 'value' of the kyros and signal data.
Hey that’s me!
Exactly
😂 been waiting for 11 months now 😂
it doesn't outstrip the value they have for me in proving grounds. I used SLKR lead traya nihilus old daka and zombie to 3 star tie interceptor and malgus PG. It took a lot of resets, but less than 100 total.
I just got nihilus and traya to gear 12 but have absolutely zero progress on Sion, and I am so tempted
Calvin dude you look seriously good with a beard. Definitely glowing up!
Hey thanks
Excel: “I’m tired Calvin”
Him: “That’s too damn bad, keep formulatin”
Lol it thought it was gonna have a break after the last one
Great video! Love that they added the R7, and good that you pointed that out. Appreciate you pointing things like that out, and explaining value and the why and not making the rest of us beardless non spreadsheet makers feel silly! Stay awesome
You got it!
The wat lsb is amazing for me, I had about a 6 year gap in me playing the game, when I stopped playing wat wasn't a thing, and when I came back everyone was on rote, and now I'm well over 8m gp and I have 15 wat shards. If I was to drop down to a ds geo guild, it would pretty much stop the progress on my account for like 8 months. But now I can get jmk, which wat was the only thing keeping me from getting him. After we got Kam I knew this was coming, glad it's finally here.
You've had the Wat bundle showing up? I've been looking constantly for 3 days but haven't seen it in any of the stores yet and it should've been yesterday
@@mamaabech no, i havent kept up with it but i thought they didnt have a date set for it. in the datamine didnt it say "this pack has no date" or something
@@gangstersnow That's possible, but I've heard it would be on the 25th and only for 24 hours. I guess we'll see soon enough
@@mamaabech The 25th was yesterday.
Even CG knows Wat is the SEE lifter i love it xD
Totally awesome as you pointed out that the R7 aspect was being ignored.
Revan LSBs adds mercenaries so be good for the next event that uses that mercenary tag.
CAT is really overvalued because her shards can be brought with GET3 cheaper than Wat shards. But like Wat, it depends on what you shards you have.
So I actually ran the math using GET3 to get her shards and it actually made her more expensive than PG refreshes
Love the breakdowns Keep being awesome 😎
You stay awesome!
Thanks for the analysis as always Calvin, now waiting for your "start hoarding NOW" reminder :D
Regarding SEE 2: I think most of the "it's the loser" sentiment does not come from a "it's not worth it / it's overpriced" perspective, but from the fact, that the toons are not THAT good if you are NOT aiming torwards SEE now or in the near future. (Especially if you already have DV at 5 or 7). Yes, you _might_ use DM/DS for the current raid. But when your guild is not at a spot where this could lift your guild to the next chest, it's not really worth it to me.
If I had unlimited budget I would buy all of them, but I don't have it so I have to prioritize. And yes, I was really shifting my "what will I buy" markers quite a few times and the R7 is really tempting, but...
Oh yeah if you're not going for SEE then the SEE bundle would be a bad idea.
Hoarding video coming soon!
@@CalvinAwesome Here is where the SEE 1 pack shines a bit brighter: you can use Royal Guard with Palpatine (until he is losing this spot once SK arrives), you can use Veers and Starck with the troopers and so on. This is not so "limited" in its use besides unlocking SEE :)
I am gonna get Darth revan but I already have JKR still deciding to get see bundles
Nice
I’m only buying the Revan ones. I have all the other characters in the other bundles!
Sick! Enjoy the OR teams
Wow, I didn't realize these were relic 7. That's amazing.
It's sick
Your new hair cut and beard look cute! The haircut reminds me of my favorite style my husband wears, although he tends to keep the top-center a little longer, with the side fades. He calls it a "burrito" style, but idk if that's because he's latino, or if that's the actual name of it, lol. But yea, it looks GOOD on you. You went from handsome nerd look, to modern male model look, lol! Hope you don't take offense, I'm being sincere. :-)
Thanks for the swgoh data, as always!
Lol it would be criminal to be offended by those statements. Thank you for your kind words and I'm glad you enjoyed the data
These times, the bundles are tricky for me; having Executor, I have Darth Vader & Piett at relics (and obviously have Tie Bomber too). I also bought the Raddus pack, so have T3M4 & Carth at relics. Aaand, I got Darth Traya to relics for platoons (yes, got her Omicron too, obviously). And lastly, I am at 76/100 of the last shards for Watt.
What surprised me is that math wise, it seems the R7 pack, for 4x R7's in my case, still wins out over 5xR5 (slightly).
Also a remark:
Sith Marauder is a sith ship pilot, Maul is requirement for Leviathan. Bastilla and HK41 are requirements. We're now seeing Leviathan characters in LSB's. And of course, double Revans bundles: Revan & Malak indeed.
Malgus LSB when CG?
NEED Wat Tambor LSB don’t mess with me CG
I love them too…I wish there was a zeta LSB
Another day, another Calvin LSB breakdown banger. I have vader, marauder at R7 but not maul or sidious(both G12) and my dooku is r6 lmao. Still might get bundle 1 and 2 so i don't have to gear up royal guard, and Tarkin. Sith trio bundle for $10 would be great but at 20 not worth even if they are R5.
LSBs are now mandatory to progress in the game. Bronzium is legit full of 7-10m accounts with 3-5 GLs now.
bro that was already the case when 1,5 years ago before the lightspeed bundles were a thing. total nightmare. glad I got outta there. im in aurodium now.
I can see that from a PVP standpoint
cat was worth it for me as had maybe 50shards. def getting SE2, both raven's and on the fence on the other packs
The Math Daddy is back to mack the addy and add the value of every pack
Both SEE packs are perfect for me. I have Vader and Piett done but lack every single other character in the bundles at relics so I’m getting almost max value. Plus veers will finish off the trooper team from the bundle last month. 😎
noice
Hey Calvin, two questions for you, maybe vid ideas? Hopefully you see this, I enjoy your content, rarely comment on stuff. 1) with all of the changes to marquis, dailies, quest and the like, is it better crystal value to bump up new toons to 4 star right away with a crystal pack or two and get the extra shards from their event as well as the handful of extra quests/feats from that bit of advancement or is it still better crystal value to just refresh the nodes like many people have been doing for some time? 2) my inquisitors are all just about g12. With Marrok in the mix as an r7 req, what are the ideal comps for gi/reva events and the recommended relic levels, to end with an optimized team and fewest wasted resources for the unused toons? Sorry if this is a bit long winded, hopefully it’s worded in a way that makes sense. Thanks!
First question would really need a whole video to dissect.
Second question I'm not sure on how Marrok fits into the mix, just avoid to taking 2nd sister to R7 for the Reva mission. She works fine but she doesn't really have a place in the final team
hi I just buy the commander Ahsoka lightspeed bundle. Could u make a video to teach us how to use her? Thanks
Yes
the problem with SEE LSB is that we already have some of the reqs... so we don't get full value for them. So it end up being kinda pricy
Yeah that's the problem with any LSB really. Anything you already have done is "lost" value
Probably true for the Sith pack. Plenty of people probably haven’t geared many of the Imperials other than Piett unless they’ve gone for SEE already.
I think the value you're adding to CAT is a little high because you could make a similar argument for all the toons
i.e. "How must would it cost to refresh the node ad infinitum until I unlocked the toon in 1 day"
Now, of course, almost everyone is going to say "well I wouldn't do that". True, but the odds are you're not spending $200 refreshing PG, or you'd have already done it.
Another equivalent may be "how many crystals would it be to buy 330 shards of the characters in Weekly/Daily Store (with refreshes potentially)" which is equivalent in my eyes to refreshing PG until you unlock, so you can't, in my opinion, count the shard costs on 1 toon without doing it for the others
For an accelerated toon, this would be 330 x 40, so about 10,000 crystals plus however many refreshes it would take, so you'd be looking at $100+ per toon
Where the CAT bundle makes sense for me is in 2 positions only:
1) You want to unlock GLAT basically now and you have everything else you need (This feels a bit unlikely for most who can unlock her but let's go with it)
2) You are about to unlock JMK and want him to be actually useable
She's a great character for sure and she does have uses elsewhere but $40 for 1 toon at what, really, is 2x value compared to 11-12x on some LSBs means I would have to be very motivated to get her
That said, really enjoyed the video and thanks, as usual, for the great content
(Yeah, I'll probably be getting SEE 2 - R7's soooo much and means I can put R7 on toons like GM/ME/Zombies without worrying about trash R7+'s)
Yeah the CAT one was definitely a little over stated and really comes down to roster position
8:57 I only have Treya (3) at relics gear 12 for the rest and I beat reliced Gungans
Light speed bundles are optional and I got a few, and now I'm at the point that I'm getting to the end of conquest so I feel I don't need them anymore and I can go back to the grind
Noice
I appreciate these videos a lot when you make them, although It leaves me curious sometimes at what point are they bad value like if you already have them geared up somewhat. Like if I have sith trio at G12 is it still x2 or better value, or what if I only need 1,2 or 3 characters from the revan bundle? It may be complicated to add something like that but could be helpful for many people!
Yeah it becomes really difficult most of the time because anybody can have any number of things already done. It would be best to build a tool
Great fun seasonal video❤❤
Say banana
On my second account I would love the Revans, but I don't have room in my farming plan to get Malak... not to mention I don't have Malgus. So that one's a tough sell.
But DR and BSF are such cool characters....
Honestly drevan is super dirty even without Malgus. Malak is probably needed but maybe is fine at 5*?
Be aware old raddus bundle already have 1 character to R5 for both light side revan and dark side revan bundle.
Noted
2:06 I actually like that one a lot too. Because it will help me with the raid. But I still might skip
My LSB addiction must satisfied *sees trio* I will still delay working on them for the other stuff! xD
Sith 2 definitely a bit less valuable since many have at least r5 Vader and Dooku (buying other bundles or other means).
Vader is very common.
TBH CAT is worth while anyways. she has good plug and play with Dash early if you got that until you get JMK. can be shoved under a Rey if ppl only have her from that lsb
Very good plug'n'play
The revans LSB is the best bundle they could have released with JML cause before the revans were announced I was concerned how I would have time to farm Jedi revan with all these LSB coming out and JML needs jedi revan to be dominate and so this was a blessing CG gave me and whoever also bought JML cause now we don't have to worry about when we would have time to farm Jedi revan
JKR pairs extremely well with JML yeah
can you do the revan bundles?
They are on the list
Oh I am waiting for that :)
already got dooku r6, maul r5 marauder vader and sidious r7. definitely a good bundle but sadly not for me : (
True true
My wallet aches
Understandable
I appreciate these analysis as always! The R7 pack value goes down a lot due to most people having Darth Vader already. That's why it's not very appealing.
Honestly if you only have Vader at R5-7 it really doesn't go down that much. It's still 40 days of signal data farming
I came back to the game about a month ago. I just unlocked Jedi knight luke, and I'm working towards JML. I quit about the time relics came out so my traya team is gear 12. I just dont know when I will have the time to relic my traya team. I'm hesitant of buying de lsb, would you recommend it for someone like me?
If you're really wanting a good defense team in GAC can give her an Omi then it's fine to buy it. I'm guessing the two revan packs for the same price would be more versatile for you. Assuming you don't have them done either
@CalvinAwesome I already have both revans. My darth revan team is relic'ed, by jedi revan is not, the Jolee and bastilla would be nice, but everything ese I have no use for. I was thinking about giving my second omicron to traya and the third to savage opress.Would the team be good on Def with traya omicron, savage opress without omicron and a random sith like sith empire trooper or something like sidious or dooku. Btw, it's really awesome of you to always answer comments.
was going for for see 1 now going for revans
They're pretty great
@@CalvinAwesome PLUS MALAK
i love how the whole swgoh community (including the youtubers) are always like "eh, calvin will make a spreadsheet"
Lol I'm very happy to have a "role" in this community
But Weevil told me SEE was an epic confrontation character
Sounds like a Weevil thing to say
Is the math wrong for the CAT bundle? $71.27 + $18.30 = $320.58?
I'm guessing you didn't get to that part in the video?
@@CalvinAwesome You got me haha, I stopped after seeing the spreadsheet. I was only a bit interested in CAT out of all these and not the others since I have them all relic'd, with several at R7. I'm 80-ish shards away from CAT (quit for almost 4 years) so I didn't feel this is worth it compared to other LSBs I've bought. If I was farther away, I'd do it.
Have a g12 sith trio full omi & zeta + relic 5 savage , i ll do them later.. i rather fork that 20$ at this point 😂
Honestly that probably already causes a ton of problems
@@CalvinAwesome i know this is going to sound bad but i m dumping a bit more $ for the ascension 2 pack (30 zetas 22 omis, )
Free . 1,99$ .free..5$ that one
Instead of the sith trio , i am sure with time more people will have the same issue .
Hoarding when?
In a few days, there will be a video
Calvin, lets just say this. LSB is worth no matter what. 🤣
I mean basically but there's always nuance
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Ye but it takes waaaay more than 49 days to get that much kyro...
lol there's that too
Remember when I said I should unlock wat tambor 7* by 2026…
Guess I was wrong
Got em!
I will save 20 dollars for finalizer lsb still it is goat lsb in swgoh.
Good argument but still its ussles for me cuz I already have this caharcters on r7 but as a first lsb its imo great, you have a point there
Lol oh yeah if you have them at R7 then you're all set
I'm not even watching this right now, can't believe you're doing see before cat. And they even extended it?? Calvin I watched my recap last night and I'm in your top 0.8% of viewers and never comment on anything.. so hello there😂
i'm doing SEE before CAT? lol also impressive viewership, welcome to the comments
I looked at the title and thought it was see only.. watching didn't watch or look properly haha. But thanks i was waiting for this video and looked yesterday and cat was extended by two days tovmake the timing perfect @CalvinAwesome
GOOD, GOOD
I like your cut g
Hey thanks my dude