Character placement MATTERS in SWGOH
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Also as a nightsister fanatic, you want daka in third slot and zombie in second, the revives are not wasted on zombie, and some applies tennacity down on a basic (important for talzin's mass assist)
In this case, the mass assist does have zombie apply tenacity down first.
This. Zombie 2nd for tenacity down, Daka 3rd for the reasons Calvin talked about
Staying alive > ten down from one ability from one character. Also, her in the 2nd slot doesn't mean her ability goes before the others. It's animation speed and distance to target that matter in the coding for mass assists.
@@lenny7228pls stop spreading misinformation bruh
Correct! Zombie resurrects the first person after it to die so put daka first so she gets the priority
thank you for these explanations. these are huge information for me. so helpful for making more effective teams 🙂
Glad it was helpful!
I have always had SunFac second as he dispels buffs on his basic, then tenacity down, then ability block.
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@@CalvinAwesometoday you learned tenacity down does not mean guaranteed debuffs.
Hahaha thanks for the shoutout Calvin! That gave me a good laugh 😂😂
You got it man!
Calvin awesome as always! This is great stuff
Thank you good sir!
I was asking myself these questions about placements orders for the last 8 years...
Finaly i can understand tks to ur videos. Thank you very much 🙏👊
You're very welcome!
I was also thinking about Phoenix, Rex ahould go from 2 to 4th and Zeb 5th so Rex grants his 100% max health bonuses to everyone, then Zeb copies 40% of it and turns it into max protection for everyone. Rex going before Zeb will max out the amount of protection gained
Ooo we'd need to run those to see if that's how it works. A lot of the unique stat things happen independent of each other
I just did some testing in the GC, and whichever slot I placed them in, Zeb always recovered 2433 protection, or 4865 (double because he was debuffed). I couldn’t see any differences depending on where Rex/Zeb were placed
Multipliers don't care about order.
Elementary.
@@knavenformed9436that is literally the case with the CLS team 🤡
This was actually pretty helpful. Thanks.
You're actually welcome
Great video! I didn't know about that geonosian misconception. And yeah, I always like my GAS team to be GAS, Rex 2nd (anakin's right hand man), Arc 3rd, Echo 4th (needs to be next to fives :D), Fives 5th (obviously). I just like it that way haha, but I did know about the old Fives bug so I guess keeping him in 5th is both a habit and a nice nod to his name.
Thank you sir!
Thanks, Calvin, was recently discussing this topic in “my” guild, Krayers Of The Lost Dragon. Shared the link and encouraged them to watch this.
Thank you sir!
I've been playing since nearly Game launch why did I never know this 😂. Thank you mate actually going to start thinking about placement now
In your defense we only know from trial and error
Your CLS lineup is good but most of the time if people are careful with what relics/mods they have on their CLS team it typically doesn't matter where you put 3PAC; it's much better to put Chewbacca in the 2nd slot because of his Tenacity Down on his basic which applied 1st on counterattacks and mass swarms resulting from C3PO's special ability, you'll be able to have other characters apply detrimental effects more consistently. Ideal lineup is CLS, Chewbacca, either 3PAC or C3PO in 3rd or 4th slot (and vice versa), and Han Solo in the 5th slot. C3PO's Confuse helps Han Solo from being yeeted from a counterattack as he will attack twice on his basic.
Meh....if a debuff gets resisted your whole team's fed turn meter so it's not a big deal
CLS also shares turn meter with whole team when he inflicts debuffs, not to even mention he'll land more stuns.@@nancyturner217
Great video and I loved the trivia game on the other channel
Thanks for saying so!
My understanding about having sunfac first is so he dispells things like tenacity up which then makes it easier to applie soldiers tenaciity down which makes poggles ability block far easier to hit.
Tenacity down can't be resisted though, and poggle will always hit last so it kind of washes out
@@CalvinAwesome Hey with leia out Nooch had people bombarding him about placing drogan in the fifth spot whats the approiiate placement in a standar lineup and in the toxic lineup?
Thanks for sharing, especially the geos one. I hate those people saying "they assist in order" 🤬
And the sad thing is they still believe it 🤦🏽♂️
The revive thing on 2nd slot (Daka and Jolee) is true
CLS is true (it also depends on relics/gear and mods)
I had to put chewie in 2nd and chewpio in 3rd position to give CLS guard (datacron CAN screw this up but it shouldn't in most cases)
Yeah the geo thing was a very unfortunate piece of misinformation, it's still pretty pervasive
Woah, mind blown.
I use Nightsisters all the time and I had no clue.
That one in particular was very helpful for secrets and shadows. Stupid sideous
I learned about the Yoda one when I was levelling to 85 & Bastila was my main team.
Lol it's a hard lesson sometimes
I seen a video a long time ago from one of the oldest content creators that said the correct geos line up was brood Sun fac spy soldier and poggle its the line up I use and it works great
Yeah I remember that video. He made it right after CG confirmed it wasn't reliable. That variation of Geos works, but so does every other variation.
The reason for Sun Fac before Geo Soldier is that Sun Fac will dispel tenacity up buffs, making the tenacity down from Soldier more likely to stick.
As explained in the video, that happens regardless of placement.
Also tenacity down is irresistible
I've been trying to get guard on Chewpio to prevent him from getting stunned and dazed. Switching Chewy and Chewpio finally got the guard off Luke and on to Chewpio. Thanks!
I can tell you though, the placement order affects RNG, which helps if you're hitting your head against a mission in which "if just the guy attacked the other guy I would win". Something you probably have no memories of, since you're this strong in the game
"stop hitting Nihilus!"
lmao i loved this AD
Lol thanks man
And on a Gar team make sure to put Gar in the lead slot!
Just imagine how tanky ig11 wiuld be if you put bam(L) cat dash and kuil. Kuil gets an extra 70% then gives 40% to ig who also gets 70% boost then turns 40% of at total into prot. Bam lead then gives an extra 25% health and prot after that.
...it's a lot
what content creators are putting sun fac 4th? you want him 2nd so he dispels buffs first- like tenacity up which would resist soldier's and poggle's debuffs- then you want soldier, then poggle. i didn't know the animation speed was a factor though, that's really interesting
Great vid! Question... Yoda not 5th discussion, you mentioned maybe put him 2nd. In an earlier JKR example you mentioned Jolee must be 2nd slot via 'savior' and reviving team. Can't put Yoda 2nd, if Jolee is there. Does that mean GMY in 4th slot?
4th would work great
Im coming right from the new Yewks episode
Oh how the turns have tabled
thx, I bookmarked this video!
Noice
I've faced night sisters before and killed Daka and 2 others leaving talzen and zombie alive, the while team still got rezed just by talzen
Yeah if she gets a kill with your mass assist everyone can come back
@@CalvinAwesome but they were good built night sisters pre Marin
my guard always lands on c-3p0 regardless, hes like a 10th of the hp of cls despire being relic 3 vs g12 cls.
nice, thx
Ya got it
I tend to put them in positions where my thumbs don't press on the wrong character...
Nothing sucks more than losing a match because you can't click on Yoda
Unless/ until Cg fixes it , UFU Cal Kestis needs to be be before Ahsoka Fulcrum in TW for his omicron to turn fulcrums on. If she is first she sees Allies and turns her omi off.
Oof yeah, talk about a bug
@@CalvinAwesome great way to waste two omicrons. GL loves it when we mess that placement up.
Yes the one I asked for I only knew geos thank you
You got it!
I though this was an april fools joke when I saw the title
Lol not quite
Ninth Sister in 5th spot if you have to use her.
Thicc girl
I watch the Barbie movie first before i watch the Video, but thanks for the frequent content and this is a really interesting topic that gets way to little attention
Lol how'd you like the Barbie movie?
@@CalvinAwesomeit was okay, though the Songs were really good for such a movie
Also i didnt know half of the teams in the Video, i only knew the ones where Animation attacks matter too
Thanks for the Video!
Finally a recent video on this, a lot of people don't actually know that much about it and it's sooo important in some cases.
Oog
Yeah I figured it was time for an update, especially with new characters like 50RT looking for the weakest character
Interesting...🤔
Hey Cal- what about DR and Malgus placement with Malak in 5v5 DB and or Marauder Sith Empire trooper- HK hangs out with DR, Malgus can’t use him. Spy with Malgus is ideal . Your thoughts vs. my thoughts ( backwards mind meld)…lol anyway?
Lol wait what?
Just curious to know if your thinking and my thoughts are on the same wavelength for the Sith Empire team lineup and placement…who goes where with whom ?
You 3 should do more collaboration videos
Oh Gerbil and Songeta?
Tl;Dw
Revivers last
Debuffers first
Nice vid! But on your discord you recommended that Zarriss gets VIP, not Ben? 😮
Yep, team showed didn't even have Barris. Video is more about effect than it is comp
I can t find the vidéo, but it was demonstrate the oposite
if you find it let me know.
Wait...............how exactly does placement matter again? Is it just how the enemy A.I. attacks certain characters?
No, certain things happen in a specific order due to coding
is there a optimal line up for Ewoks? (working with chirpa, wicket, elder, pap, and logray) looking for any advantage for c3po event.
Not really no.
So how does this work when all abilities go off simultaneously before you even take a move?
That varies? Have to know the exact context
@@CalvinAwesome so take Geo's for example. People say if you place then in a certain order then their abilities will go off one after another effectively making them better depending on placement. I don't understand it as all the abilities go off at same time so therefore it doesn't matter where you place them?
Mass assists are a combination of animation speed AND distance to target. Sun Fac and Soldier have identical animation speed so their placement plus distance to target does matter.
Here's a vid showcasing it using a galactic challenge. The deathmark one is great for testing things like this.
ua-cam.com/video/fhDQ7qZejdo/v-deo.html
@@gocubs239 just through my experience, tried and tested many times especially with Geos. Its never made a difference
Sorry if I misunderstood, but what *is* the correct/most beneficial order for Geos?
It doesn't really matter. Sun fac first to dispel first and then soldier is okay, but their turn order doesn't change much else. Poggle will AB last no matter what
@@CalvinAwesomeAh okay, thanks. The videos from you, AP Gains and Ahnald have been a great help since I got back into the game last year! 😁👍
I’m really confused, for your Kuill and IG-11 example. The text doesn’t say they have to be next to each other it just says if he’s an ally. So that can just mean in the squad. So I think for some of these examples you’re showing. Explain how you’re supposed to know to put them next to each other. Don’t see the why in it.
Unfortunately the "why" falls in the coding and I have no idea why CG chose to do it that way.
All I know is that my IG has better stats when I do this order
@@CalvinAwesome that is so strange, thanks for the video and the info! 😊
This placement thing was already "thing" about few years ago.. but it is good for new players to tell this🤷♂️
Yeah these types of videos kind of need to be redone every once in a while for those who are newer. Or just to be aware of what's being affected. 50rt/swolo interaction being a good example
The one that I've seen streamers do multiple times (not you) is that despite it being a starkiller team, you shouldn't really put starkiller in the lead slot. Lol
Lol oh gosh
don't you want sunfac to hit 1st to dispel tenacity up?
It doesn't matter. Tenacity down is irresistible, and the rest of the team will always hit last
@@CalvinAwesome ooooo thx!
How does this play out for fleet?
I'm not aware of any specific interactions there, but the coding is the same so it's suspect to the same things
Got it, wont put thrawn in the fifth slot
Admiral Napolethrawn
What about vandor chew in a wookie team ???? same thing ???
You can but it's not that big of a deal because you can only revive one character at a time without dash omicron
amazing man
Thank ya!