Dream Theater - Take This For The Pain (Documentary)
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- Опубліковано 13 лис 2013
- This is the 30 minute documentary audition on Mike Mangini. With footage of a lot of their improv jam, and also Mikes reaction to joining the band. Enjoy!
I do not own this video, I uploaded it so others who have not seen it may watch it, it's a great audition documentary that everyone needs to hear!!
We will miss you Mike mingini. Thank you for your 13 years of DT.
How anybody could dislike Mangini I will never know
Disliking his drumming doesnt mean disliking him as a person.
I find myself always coming back to watch this. Mangini is absolutely legendary.
Thank you for the beautiful 13 years, MM... spirit must carries on
Will miss you in DT, Mike Mangini!
Gutted Mangini is no longer with them. I'm actually mourning the occurance....
Ever since I heard his work with James's solo project in 2002 I've wanted to hear him with DT.
When it happened, it exceeded all expectations. It was everything I could have ever imagined it would be and so much more.
Thank you for the last thirteen years, Mike.
I miss Mangini already...
I'll miss his energy and precision
I miss his musicality.
feels like yesterday
Time is a scam 🎉
Thank you so much Mr Mike Mangini. You're always be a part of DT family. 13 years with the band, it's not a short journey. Thank you for the hard work, dedication, and your creativity. Hope you will always be succesfull. 🙏👍😊
Mike Mangini's response to getting the job is just priceless. You see this video and learn that when you want something THAT BAD you will do what it takes to get it. Just utterly inspiring!
He clearly put the most effort into learning as much DT as he could out of all the drummers that auditioned.
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He's the only one that wanted this gig. This is a fake audition. They filmed this to be a reality show that no one picked up. They wouldn't pick this guy if any of the other ones wanted the gig. You don't turn down Virgil, Marco, or Thomas.
@@jackmakackov7077 The problem is that you also don't turn down Mike Mangini
@@jackmakackov7077 "You don't turn down Virgil, Marco, or Thomas" Why can't you?
Virgil - failed the chemistry test via the improvisational jamming. Technically deadly, but weak in the 'make it up live on the spot' part. He's also not 'nerdy' or 'geeky' enough in spirit - which I think DT wanted and needed. Virgil is a serious stiff dude. Almost too 'dark' for DT.
Marco - kind of a 'hired gun' guy, like Steve Vai was on guitar in bands for years in his early career. Great for some dating, but not marriage 'until death do us part' which is what the band wanted and needed. Marco wasn't ready to settle down. Plus Marco is more silly fusion-rock-jazzy at his best (much better fit in Aristocrats). He's more a drummer for sessions and 'projects' - than jumping into a committed iconic classic progressive rock band gig. Marco had more seeds to sow in his longterm career. On a minor note, Marco doesn't project "serious metal" much, as a dude. He's kinda goofy - in his great way. I mean - a cookie monster shirt... LOL
Thomas - same weaknesses in the chemistry test... just wasn't organically fitting into the DT style improvisations. They could feel it. Heck, I could feel it. It was like DT was jamming, and a great drummer was in the room playing ALONG to it... not ADDING to it, and making it stellar/better. Like Marco, Lang doesn't come off as 'metal enough' either.
Thank you mike mangini. You did an excellent contribution to the band for all these years and you deserve a massive appreciation.
The end killed me. Brought tears to my eyes. So worthy Mike Mangini is....
Mangini just seems to be such a wonderful person, extremely talented and extremely humble, such qualities in a human being are very rare to find. I've never felt so happy for someone before. I would love to have the chance to meet him.
I could not agree more very well said
Thats why most of MP fans dont like him.
I went to a MM drum clinic years ago. He was so awesome. I asked him what band he would play for if he could play with anyone and he said Led Zeppelin. Kudos for that answer!
"[..] but nonetheless, we have some news for you, and we'd like to at this point welcome you to the family [..]".
"[..] you guys got your guy back [..]" Mike Mangini's statement says it all. He's sad that after more than a decade he was never considered "their guy".
Probably, he never has been part of the family.
The way he locks in with Myung at 17:30 on the kick and everyone else at the same time is insane.
And that fill at 18:01! So well placed and very powerful.
@@Djentstructer Ha yeah... a little late to the party now though that Portnoy is back eh? haha.
@@JustinOhio Ye, I'm going to miss Mangini and that's if I listen to DT going forward. I've been watching a lot of Mangini's performances since they announced the whole Portnoy thing.
@@Djentstructer Are you a newer fan of theirs? I've been with them since '91 and the release of Images and Words. So I'm partial to MP. However, being a musician myself, I can always appreciate other's contributions and abilities and MM was just a straight badass. He was a perfect fit for them during the time MP was gone....but at the end of the day, it really is MP that is well placed in that role. The songs and albums will get back to being possibly great with each release now that he's back, and I am sure they will come back with a banger. They never fail to deliver when the pressure is on.
For MP, he created my favorite albums and the best of his career (he self proclaims) while he's been gone. Neal Morse Band Similitude of a Dream and The Great Adventure....both double concept albums that are connected. Amazing stuff.
Could anyone else here just watch these guys jam for hours? Mike's ability to pick up on the other instrument's subtle changes etc. is just amazing.
Portnoy is a great drummer but Mike Mangini is just on a different level. Every fiber of Mike’s being goes into preparing for his performances. That’s not to take anything away from Portnoy because he helped create the music that Mangini now plays but Mangini takes what Portnoy did and adds to it without changing the overall foundation of the music. It’s got to be an extreme compliment to be followed up by Mike Mangini of all people. He’s just incredible. I hear he’s a really nice guy as well.
It's so sad to see him go from the band 😢
It feels so unjust that he's been replaced now, but it seems like the band and him have made their peace.
Thank you for your incredible 13 years in DT🤘🏼😭
I'm not surprised at all, if they can do that to Derek Sherinian earlier, then they'll certainly do the same when MP decides to come back.
I saw him about a month back and he’s definitely excited about everything to come. He says that he lives life in 3 second increments and given that his teaching schedule is being booked out he’s keeping plenty busy
@Staplez440 - I saw him in a clinic back in 2001. He warmed up in my lesson room!
I've had a Zoom group class with him, and hope to have more soon. He's been a tremendous inspiration, and an amazing guide for how I want to develop as a musician.
Amazing to me to see Mangini almost childlike but with a diehard fan mixed with a seasoned professional mindset leading up his audition. He's nervous. Geeked. Excited. Real fun to see.
This is such an apt description! Great way to describe it.
Watching this was just weird to me. This guy could smoke most rock drummers out there yet here he is, hands shaking, nervously going through the motions as if he doesn't know he isn't more than worthy of filling Mike Portnoy's shoes. A complete lack of ego.
Love prog. You can misplace notes and it can mean something! Miss Mangini already! Truly inspiring!!!! Thanks for 13 years with DT 🙏
Every time I watch this I get so excited for Mike Mangini. While I miss Portnoy, I am so glad of every other drummer in the world Mangini got the job. His talent = level ridiculous. When he plays he smiles so large. When he isn’t making us laugh with him we find ourselves grinning ear to ear. He is an utter joy to watch. And the cherry on top is he converted my beautiful wife to becoming a legit Dream Theater fan. Thank you Mangini.
I feel you
The phone call where he’s offered the gig makes me cry every time I watch this. And I watch it a lot
This comment made me cry... The phone call is so emotional, still
i always put on a huge smile just by seeing the happiness in manginis face the sheer amount of happiness he’s feeling at the phone call is just indescribable it’s contagious lol
Me too!
This documentary is FANTASTIC!!!!!
Mike doesn't play drums, he speaks in the language of percussion. It is his natural expression.
Every time I watch this video I get such an awesome feeling of gratitude for the Dream Theater band and for Mike in particular. I hope his parents, his wife and siblings are just as proud of him as I am. He is such a nice guy and he feels like a member of my family for some reason. Maybe because he's Italian.
Frank Carpi I agree.
Which Mike?
Ahh, nevermind. The video is about Mike Mangini.
Both Mike's are fine.
its normal to be obsessed with this jam?
No it's a once in a lifetime gig and ya set for life plus Mangini's very passionate and dedicated to the craft
@@j.d.7208 he is talking about himself
I think Mangini is not only just a legendary drummer, but an incredible human being. Oh man, the guy is so charismatic, cheerful and good sport. He was the best choice ever. DT just nailed it. And my eyes get teary every fu****g time I see he receiving the news from the band.
Same here
I totally agree.
Agreed on the character part totally. He’s a really amazing guy. What comes to playing he’s also really good. Compairing to for example Portnoy and Minneman definetely faster and better one hand technique. But does that really count that much. What he lacks is the composing skills of those two other and also groove. Its of course a matter of taste but imo even though MM is amazing drummer I prefer Mp and Minneman much higher. And I think im not the only one. Those two have gathered honours and trophys in the drummer industry 10x more than Mangini.
Legendary drummer ?
@@DerekHundik YES, MM is one of the GREATEST DRUMMERS ON THE PLANET. I’m guessing you’re new to him if you’re questioning that
How much I love see this again, we all know Mike deserved this privileged place with DT because he is SO passionate and so dedicated and also extremly humble and curious and FUN
I like Mangini as a person, he's a good guy. Cool he got the job.
i could listen to them jam all day, all week, for the rest of my life.
Same here, man
I listened non stop DT from 2010 to 2019.
Literally was close to be the only thing I listened at the time. With exceptions.
This has to be one of the most amazing things they've done in their careers, I cannot explain how impossible is for a group to be this connected. I love the chemistry in what we are hearing here.
Simply beautiful, superlative sound.
I'm so glad Mangini is in the band. He brought a whole new perspective to Dream Theater since he joined. The other drummers are good but Mangini is on another level.
At 17.10 the change when Mangini hits the symbol and everyone just follows into that halftime jazz/blues Gary Moore type section is absolutely astounding. I think Petrucci and LaBrie have misread what makes their music great to fans. It seems like they went into the last two albums with a plan, and actually the music they write spontaneously is much better than the stuff that they plan. I love old DT when you didn't know where a new song or album was going. Metropolis or Octavarium or Train of Thought were all amazing because they were based off of jam sessions rather than going in with a preconceived concept for the most part. Even though Metropolis was based off the song it was jams around the feel of that song that the album was really based around. That's what the fans want, more shooting from the hip. When they play freely with no restrictions or plans these guys are the only fucking band that matters. Regardless of whether it's MP or MM playing the drums. Both these guys are incredible and it's actually really hard to choose between them. MP is my personal favourite, just because he's written some of the most satisfying drum parts I've ever heard (the fills on sacrificed sons are mind blowingly good - just one example in a sea of hundreds). But I'm hoping that they'll take to the new album in the same fashion as before and MM will likely surprise and astound us if they do.
+SuperGeo1987 This is one of the best responses to the MPvMM debate. That being said, I joined them at ADTOE and then worked my way backwards... and then forwards with the self-titled album :D I agree with you in the sense that when I first started listening to everything, from WDADU to BCSL, and then ADTOE and DT, I had no idea how the albums would have sounded. Sure, I heard snippets of Fortune in Lies, Metropolis Pt. 1, Overture 1928, and On the backs of Angels, but the rest was a mystery. I'm happy with what happened then and now (despite "discovering" them so far into their career already), and I eagerly wait the next album, which has unfortunately been pushed back to early 2016.
the biggest complaint people have with DT is the vocals, although the last albums his voice is more "warm" and nicer. in some of the previous albums James is, sad to say, utter crap and off key WAILING.
That's because he royally f'd up his throat. He got food poisoning and ruptured his vocal cords while puking. So there are a few songs on previous albums where he just struggles. He's been sounding normal (at least to my ear) on the last three albums.
i second that. Their late two albums (oh, wait, its three already with Mangini?) are EXCRUCIATINGLY BORING, their music has become so rigid, so programmed. They're trying to hide it behind the pathos and over-the-top arrangements, but it hardly helps.
You are right buddy, the concept can have the last seat. They need to jam first.
He is a PROFESSOR! Absolutely great in musicality! 14:18
He is fantastic, that's for sure. But, the Professor is Neil Peart.
@@patriciameyer7401 so you only had a professor in ur life
Mani earned his spot. no one put more of himself into the audition than he did
Actually, they initially selected Marco Minneman. He turned it down because he revealed that he largely only auditioned to see if he could get the gig.
He was stunned when they chose him over Mangini because he and the other auditionists knew that Mangini was their favorite.
@@JdDiehl Where are you getting that information?
@@thebrawnysquirrel6344 People close to the band leaked it. Many years back. I only found it out after Watching this series for the first time
@@JdDiehlthis kinda tells that they werent 100% with mangi, and opened the door for portnoy later
I WANT to be in THIS BAND! Amazing statement. Well, Mike, you did. You were the best fit for this incredible band.
I just cannot for the life of me get past how good mangini’s drums sound in this mix compared with all their albums w him.
This jam just made my day, my week, my month, my year
17:10 onwards, that's the Dream Theater I love.
so you like adtoe?
ME TOO! Ever heard JP's "Lost Without You"? One of the best melodic songs I've ever heard.
Totally agree with you... it hits deep into the soul and blown me awai! Thx dude.
And some people say this guy has no feel. He's simply amazing.
he doesn't
He doesn't
Jay J did you watch the video?
honestly I think it depends on the context, cause like extreme he's pretty good with feel, but like doing the Portnoy dream theater stuff its just off
Sorry your boy portnoy quit on you guys, he is the “next best thing” and I don’t see a goddamn difference at all from the “all mighty portnoy” and I dabble in the drum field myself, not the best but ain’t no amateur either lol 🥁 🤘🏻😱
From 17:00 to about 22:00 absolutely needs to become a song.. Petrucci solo was beautiful, Jordan was killer.. The riff right at the end was awesome.
+Blair Wriston This entire jam needs to be a song, produced in itself without the documentary!
+Blair Wriston Just one of the greatest feels I've ever heard... And, that was just a JAM!
Arguably the best musical decision dream theater ever made. He is a truly outstanding musician and, in their words, is an "undeniable person".
it is the best one so far.
Dunno, if they initially chose minnemann 😅
After Mike Portnoy...I never thought anyone could possibly take his place...but lo and behold!!!! Mike Mangini!!!!
He's brilliant!!
This jam session should make it to an album.
Mike’s reaction is one of amazement and extreme gratitude. He recognized he was given the opportunity and EARNED HIS SPOT to be a member of one of, if not, the best progressive metal bands on the planet. Something Mike Portnoy CHOSE to walk away from. In my humble opinion.
MP was definitely very rash in leaving when he did. Although how many of us could do the same thing with very few breaks over 25 years?
for me this actually is a better mix than the album. I can clearly hear all the instruments...
Mangini brings such a positive energy. I can’t even stop smiling while watching him ✨
Amazing Mike Mangini...
👍👍👍
Mike Mangini doesn't make me miss Mike Portnoy at all. Coming from a lifelong DT fan, this means a lot. I first thought DT was dead after MP's departure but it was a new beginning. I have tears in my eyes when I watch this footage and the jam was awesome.
I will say the opposite! He make me miss Portnoy A LOT! Coming from a lifelong DT fan, this means A LOT!
Unfortunately the new albums doesnt sound like this at all. The chemistry is great, but after they writing some songs, turns out petrucci and rudess take the lead, mangini is not involved that much. Even on the astonishing, they write it REMOTELY plus petrucci have the biggest piece on writing and that sound so wrong.
21:38 Awesome fill that perfectly fit the tone and the attitude of the session at that moment. I have listened to Dream Theater in the past and was always impressed and while they ARENT the same without Mike Portnoy I think they shouldn't be. Mike Mangini is a different drummer with an intensity that I love. Ive seen him live 2 times and on both occasions he was a mind blowing drummer to watch. Full of fire and passion for the art and so musical as an artist. I love how Dream Theater feels now. More Mature maybe is the word im thinking. They have grown through this transition with Mike Mangini keeping time in the back and I think they are better than ever honestly.
AGREE!!!!!
couldn't agree more, I do like how you put it into words.
They were at their pinnacle with Mangini.
Thanks for uploading this!!! Really cool behind the scenes look into MM's audition
No problem!
Extended jamming sessions with people you click with are meditation in its purest form.
This is the kind of atmospheres I'd like to hear in coming album. It's about DT takes the time to build textures, bridges and melodic passages along songs. Time will tell.
8:49 is just incredible XD Mike Mangini just fucks with the time completely XD
God, Mike is such an inspiration. His passion for what he does is undeniable. Congrats again, Mike.
Mike mangini is hands down one of the best drummers on the planet.. Mike mangini, Marco minneman, Mike portnoy, Pete wildoer, George kolias, and Thomas Lange just to name a few are the greatest drummers to ever play a drum kit.. all of their styles and playing techniques are just phenomenal and brutal beyond belief man.. I could sit and watch any one of these players I mentioned here all day long and not get bored.. especially Mike mangini.. he's incredible.. dream theater couldn't have picked a better member to play the drums for their band.. period.. he fits like a glove man.. perfection at it's finest.. thanks for sharing this video.. it's amazing..there wasn't this much jam time on the regular episodes.. I'd like to see all of the drummers do the improv with them.. that'd be awesome.. thanks again.. cheers..
I agree completely very well said
Virgil Donati and Gavin Harrison
This dude played the drums like it's his last day on earth. BRAVO great jamming chemistry.
Did you ever stop to think that just maybe some of you guys hate on Mangini because you can't stand the idea that Portnoy left?
Ian Cunningham No I hate on him because I can't stand the fact that Marco didn't make it. He's such an intriguing drummer.
Ian Cunningham so so f n true great point
Not ashamed to admit that. Still true for me. Miss the real Mike every day. Sad.
@@jblgti50 You can listen to Winery Dogs, Sons of Apollo and PSMS if you really want to listen to Portnoy and stop listening to DT.
@@ayushsuyayush those bands blow. Winery dogs is a sad attempt at radio rock. That's not what portnoy is made for. The God needs to be in DT.
Since october, I cant stop listening to AVFTTOTW. His parts were amazing and so heavy. I will truly miss his drumming for DT.
Obrigado por esses 13 anos no DT, Mike Mangini!!!
16:57 That whole chorus/string section Jordan was playing is amazing, I wish I had a good ear so I could recreate what he was playing
That jam was simple magic. It's easy to understand why they picked him, Mangini is awesome.
This documentary is so inspirational..This is third time i watch it beacause im also hopefully auditioning for a band i am willing to play with for a long time. Im not a drummer, but i can say freely that Dream Theater should be proud to play with a musician like Mike Mangini. Becuse of him i started listeng and enjoy DT music again, after a break of coulple of years.
One pair of underwears for three days. My kind of drummer.
His lucky underwear
Antonio Ortuño And after that audition I'd definitely say he went out and bought some new ones..
Antonio Ortuño Remember that right after saying that, he said, "I'm just kidding".
Day 1 fresh
Day 2 turn 'em around
Day 3 Commando
I like this snare drum sound...it's better than ADTOE and self titled man...ROCK!!!!
I would be down for an album of just the 4 of them shredding!
really really i love Mangini!1
I get teary-eyed watching this... Mike, you are amazing!!!
I'm so happy for him! As if I myself was in this group! Mike Mangini the best drummer I`ve ever seen! Thank you so much for this video!
The audition I really want to see in full is Marco Minneman's
+1
Benson Leung +2
***** You are totally right !
dmh091 donati failed in playing dance of eternity
Fauzan Gates oh yeah??? :D
This solo is truly on another level !!! It’s amazing to me anybody could train their body to do the things he’s doing! A very kind humble guy who is a brilliant musician and as a drummer this is remarkable to witness ! I hope he continues his career with great success and I’m very thankful he played for Dream Theater as long as he did! A perfect choice and I wish him the best in future endeavors as I will continue to follow his playing . Remarkable player like seeing Jimi Hendrix for the first time! The Bruce Lee of drummers !Bought his instructional DvD just to watch him play and see his set up. Thanks Mike !
I desperatly would like this jam recorded. And I want Mike to be happy. He is such a good person.
I want to be prepared like this guy, in my opportunity, in any area of life. BEAUTIFUL
Mike Mangini has a crazy mind to be able to memorize all those parts just to audition. He's a real specimen
How is it crazy? Lol
Im so stoked that Portnoy is back BUT I was also so happy when Mangini got the job, i had followed his drumming for a few years at that point and dude is just AMAZING. The things he does with his BRAIN then into his arms and legs are just awesome. Im just as excited to see what he does as i am that Portnoy came back.
Thanks for posting. I have been a fan of DT and Mike Mangini for a looong time. I'm glad he got the gig.
This doco makes me have an even greater appreciation for both.
I semi-demand this be made into a song without the rest of the documentary stuff so i can listen to it without all the distractions, its about my fifth time listening to this and would prefer none of the documentary stuff!
auder stein es tu foc la bluu
I second that. I'd love to just see this. it's kinda like with A Change of Seasons and they left it off Images and Words but made it the main song on an EP. Except this is a complete jam, but i'd still love if they tagged it as a song and put it as an instrumental on a future album.
23:47 when a drop of rain goes down the back of your shirt
hahaha
These guys could just impov an entire album in 1 take if they wanted...stunning :)
Thank you for all the years mike, may God bless you wherever you are. You are always be the DT family 😢. And another mike welcome back to your old family 😊
I think the best part of the jam was that they all looked like they were having so much fun (except for Myung, he was in the zone lol)
Love this documentary. I have a lot of respect for these musicians.
Amazing. Great share. Great drummer. Great guy. Powerful emotions.
thanks for putting this up man really cool love these guys best band in the world
Mike Mangini the best drummer always in dream teather ❤
I think Mangini was auditioning and evaluating them just as much as they were him. He was driving alot of the time. This chemistry was good and as much as I like Marco, Mike was the best fit for this band.
To this day it's the most impressive jam session I have ever seen. I mean... what the fuck. It's multilayered, heavy, free-flowing, full of feel and fun shit going on to the extremes... It's wild. I watch this shit at least once a year.
Kendall. Thank you so much for uploading this.. man... that was a magical jam!
It bugs me a little how awesome the drums sound in the audition compared to the DT albums with Mangini.
You can blame Petrucci and the recording engineer for that !
Thanks for uploading this :)
I literally cried at the end of this. Thank you for posting it.
Incredible.
It’s so funny how he said he almost felt like crying yet his reaction made most of us hold back tears . He reminds me of myself with how emotional he gets in a good way
Amazing! Awesome! Perfect!
AWESOME video!!! Thanks for posting this
Amazing drummer joining amazing band...you guys are the best ever...love you guys
from 17:00 - 22:30 I would buy this if it were a song.
i would buy this whole thing if it was a song, but yeah that ending is one of the greatest things dream theater has ever made imo
Try to listen to "Eve", it's pretty similar.
He's a good guy, Mr Mangini.
Such a great video! Congratulations Mike. What a dream come true.
Mike Mangini's solos in the past are the most entertaining drum solos I have ever seen. The guy is just the right level of crazy.
John Petrucci, the only man ever to Lift Weights and play guitar in the same room.
Kane Roberts too
As long as it doesn't violate the NAP it's ok!!
And possibly at the same time.
John Myung can do Kung Fu.
@@zainb.9416 True. He's a master of martial arts. Not sure which exactly, but he can break all their necks with one arm if he wanted. Haha 😄