Grand Design Momentum 31G toy hauler tour
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- Опубліковано 18 гру 2020
- Come along as we take a tour of our new 2021 Grand Design Momentum 31G toy hauler! I take an in depth look at the outside and the inside looking at the things we truly love and at a few problems with it as well.
Link to the G class toy haulers on the GD website:
www.granddesignrv.com/showroo...
Link to the 31G page on the GD website:
www.granddesignrv.com/showroo...
Link to our great dealer, Wheels RV in Tontitown, AR:
www.wheelsrv.net/
Link to the amazing Weigh Safe True Tow hitch:
www.weigh-safe.com/product/tr...
Link to our Weigh Safe video on the channel:
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Great info. Love the trailer
Thanks for watching Eric!
Anyone done a small island in the kitchen? I’m thinking 12 inches wide by 30 inches long and pushed right up next to the TV cabinet. Purchased our 2021 31G last Wednesday but it went straight to Quality RV in Venus, TX for upgrades to the ride.
Hey Amy! I've not heard of anyone doing that. Would be possible but here is probably not the best spot to get the info you are looking for. If you do Facebook we have a group just for these trailers. Lots of helpful people there. Here's a link. facebook.com/groups/momentum29g31g
Nice informative video. Just purchased brand new 2022 31G this Feb.
I noticed when you first started the inside tour showing the theater seating, it looked like your side window blinds would clear the sides of the chairs, my blinds hit the top of the chair not letting them go all the way down, bad planning/engineering.
Also, during the orientation, the guy never mentioned anything regarding the black & gray tanks and related; the 31g owner's manual is very vague and does not explain the black tanks (2 blk tanks) individual capacities nor does it explain which blk tank is #1 & #2 on the tank meter readout. Same with the gry tanks!
There are a few other things that I've been having to figure out.
myself .
Will definitely be watching your other videos.
Hi Sam. Thanks for watching! There should be a build sheet with all the capacities and other important info in the pack of manuals you got with the trailer. There is 1 gray tank and it's for the shower and sink in the main bath. It is 37 gallons. The front black tank is 38 gallons and is for the main toilet only. The 2nd black tank is also 38 gallons and it's for the half bath and the kitchen sink. The readout should be marked as to which tank is which on the panel. I'm glad to answer any more questions you have. If you do Facebook we have a group just for the 29G/31G trailers. There is a ton of info there. Here's the link. facebook.com/groups/momentum29g31g
Thank you just purchased a 29g to haul our Maverick 1000 R/C. Picking it up on May 8th very impressed with grand design units
Congratulations Glenn! We love our Grand Design!
I have a 29go. I am going to look at a 31g. I really like the separate living areas. I added the lippert auto levelers for travel trailers to mine. It is awesome just hitting a button to level it.
A friend of mine has autolevel on his 31G. I'm kind of jealous. :)
Awesome camper! One thing they should have done was extended the backsplash along the side of the refrigerator.
I am waiting for my 31g to be delivered. I can't wait to get it! Thanks for posting this video as I will be checking mine out real close for some of the things that you have pointed out.
Thanks for watching! We were super excited to get ours and even though it has some issues we are still thrilled with it! I'm starting on some of the mod projects very soon!
@@terryhatfieldmin they did not order your rear Awning on your back patio automatic?
@@gardnetbush9768 Apparently a supply issue. Ours was built right at the end of the production run. Seems they ran out of the Carefree power awnings and built a few units with the Thule Crown manual awnings.
Thanks for sharing! This is a nice trailer.
Thank you and thanks for watching!
N. Aww
Terry can you tell me the process of filling water in tank? I have a 2021 21 g i just bought and i read somewhere you got to pull a vent valve or something?? I see a valve under camper. Just want to be sure
Just push in the white valve levers under the trailer and set the levers in the wet bay to fill and start filling. The first will fill a little faster than the 2nd. These trailers are notorious for leaking water out the vent tubes when you are going down the road. Many of us used Shark Bite valves from the home center to stop that water loss from the blue vent lines. Very important to open those valves when filling and when using the tanks. Here's a link to another video where I show the valves and how they work. Lots of good info in the video but about 16 minutes in are the valves.
Ok. The "white valves" are the 1.5 " drain valves? Ya those should be closed for sure. I might end up doing shark bites and valves in future. I can see why u want those open while filling.
Also the previous owner of my camper stated that he had trouble getting water into 2nd tank. He said he had to fill slow in order to get water into second tank?
@@fozzybear9114 The white valves are the drains. The Shark bite valves solve the 2nd tank fill issue. Once water comes out of the front Shark bite I close it and it helps to fill the 2nd tank.
Nice job Terry ! Love the stairs.
Thanks Pete! We do as well. Way easier on our old bodies. So much more stable.
Thank you for this video!
What’s your opinion on why you chose a travel trailer vs 5th wheel?
I have the same setup 2021 31g and love it but people keep giving me a hard time that I didn’t get a 5th wheel.
You definitely know your stuff and greatly appreciate the hard work that goes into all your videos!
Thanks Ryan! We have several reasons for going with the 31G. We boondock almost exclusively. We did not want to deal with the extra height, length or weight of the 5th wheel. In addition, when we decided to get a toyhauler we set a budget and actually stuck to it for once. :o) It's been perfect for us and how we use it.
LOVe grand design..Can my Toyota Tundra be able to tow it..?
Don't think a Tundra would be capable of toing a 31G. Loaded weights up around 13,000 and tongue weights of around 1800 are pretty normal on these trailers. 3/4 ton is a minimum.
I'm very interested in getting this same trailer!!! Can you post a picture or maybe a short video of the bedroom slide process? I'm concerned about a crappy factory mattress and would want to upgrade it. But it seems the mattress has to fold up for travel??? Also is the hanging closet big enough for a standard hanger?
The mattress does fold. There are some posts on the Facebook groups showing a mod to the bed to allow for a regular mattress. The original one is really hard. We will be changing it out over the winter. I'll post a video of the mods necessary when we do that project. The part that folds is thicker than the rest so it requires making a backer to take up that space and being able to hold the mattress in a position that allows the slide to operate correctly. The closet is big enough for a standard hanger but not a ton of room in the hanging closet. I'll get some pics when I'm out there next time and add them to this album on my Flickr page. www.flickr.com/photos/93396776@N06/albums/72157717284584017
We put a mattress topper on our
How's your GD 31G holding up?
It's been solid. We have been very happy with it.
Nice to see a honest review. Been looking at one of these for a while, how well does the she tow? I’m in the same boat looking for something small enough to boondock but worried about handling in the mountains.
Hi Jason. Thanks for watching. It tows great. I highly recommend the Weigh Safe 20k Class 5 hitch. These trailers really want what would seem to be an overkill hitch to pull well. We love the 31G. Several other vids on our channel covering hitches and setups.
Real nice trailer sir
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Help me understand how you love the layout with theater seating facing the stove...
There is a lot more to the layout than the tv. It articulates so you can watch with no problem but we don’t go camping to watch tv.
I was going to buy that one but I got the 2021 29g
Nice unit. Thanks for the tour. I'm curious to know how you tie the Talon down in the garage, and how easy (or hard) it is to get access to do that tiedown procedure. I suspect that having the side "man-door" in the garage would help with access when tying the Talon down. Also, I'm curious as to a ball-park price for this Grand Design unit? Finally, is your truck a 1-ton?
As always, thanks for sharing.
Steve
Thanks. I've loaded it forward and backward to measure the tongue weight each way. Putting it in backwards only adds 50 lbs but it is much easier to tie down in that orientation. The front wheels are too far forward to access the D rings when it's in forward. I hooked the straps with it a foot or so from the wall and then pushed it back to where I wanted it to be and tightened the straps. Much easier on the front. I was thinking of doing E track on the floor but it's going to interfere with the door into the living area and I'm concerned about it being a trip hazard since we will be using the garage as living space. List price was $66k. Out the door price including $1500 in freight was $49800.00.
Sorry. Didn't answer your questions completely. Yes, the truck is a '17 Ram 3500 Cummings turbo 1 ton dually. For tie downs, I used regular crank straps with soft axle straps attached to the Talon suspension as close to the wheels as possible. The other end is in the 4 outboard D rings. It's not exactly what I would prefer but seemed to work fine in my test trip yesterday. Still contemplating E track but not sure what the best configuration is just yet.
Mine is pretty much the same its a 29g and I'm pulling it with a 3/4 2018 Ram no problem
@@gardnetbush9768 Unfortunately all the RV manufacturers are having parts shortages. They are installing whatever they have on hand. It's not issue. The manual awning is fine.
@@terryhatfieldmin oh ok sorry I bought mine in late October it was still been built but you are right I called keystone and they said they had Unit sitting outside that was still wait for air conditioner and they were worried about the weather that was coming
My new 31G has a power rear awning. I noticed that that door above the pantry in my trailer does not have a pull handle to pull the door open. I called the dealer and asked them about it and they said that they do not put a handle on that door. After looking at why they might not have a handle on that door I would assume that it might hit the wall above the garage man door and mark the wall up.
I noticed that your 31G has no handle either on that door. It is no big deal to open the door without the handle I just thought maybe they had forgot to install one on that door.
The door above the pantry doesn't have a handle because the slide is very close to that door when it's in. I'm going to mill a finger pull relief on the bottom edge to assist my short wife in getting it open. :)
@@terryhatfieldmin That explains why thanks!
@@bretstephensen8821 I was all primed to order a matching pull until I walked in the trailer with the slide in.
@@terryhatfieldmin That is good information!
It is good to learn things from someone who has the same unit. I watched your video on the weigh safe hitch and I have one sitting in my garage. You do a great job on your videos. I have a 2020 Ram Dually and the clearance alone with the weigh safe hitch will be a big plus so one can open the tailgate.
@Bret Stephensen Can you put washer + dryer in the 31G?
Hey Terry, I've watched every video you've made on the 31g and the Weigh Safe. Thanks so much! We just picked up our 2023 31G yesterday. Blown away! We're out here in southern California, bout to head to the desert with dogs n dirtbikes soon. I have a question for you, how does the Solar operate. We have the 300watt system. Unfortunately our walkthrough from the dealer was pretty poor. Actually pathetic. Thanks!
Thanks! Glad the videos are helpful to you. Unfortunately we don't have the factory solar so I'm not much help with that. We opted to do our own vs getting the system from Grand Design.
@@terryhatfieldmin oh ok well man thanks for the super quick reply. I really appreciate it sir. I'm definitely going with that weigh safe hitch. We got 3 great Danes going with us in back of Ram 2500 with camper shell. Cheers Terry. Have a great night
Oui je veux en savoir plus sur cette caravanne déja le prix 😁👍👍
We're waiting for our 31 to come in. We have X chocks on our last trailer and am wondering if you use them and or feel the need to? The distance between the wheels isn't much and not sure of an X chock would fit? Thank you for all of your videos
Thanks for watching! We don't use the X chocks but there are some that do.
@@terryhatfieldmin Thank you so much for the reply!
Seems like the exhaust would not come out below the sleeping slide out. Have you noticed any fume smell?
Agree that it's a bit of an odd configuration but we haven't had any issues with fumes getting into the trailer.
Terry do you know about what the tung weight is with out your side by side in the back ? I am thinking about getting this camper bit worrie about the tung weight i will be towing with an F250
Loaded for camping with full fresh tanks and our Talon in the rear our tongue weight is 1500. Pushing 2000 without the Talon. After these months of watching post after post on our 29G/31G Facebook group, these trailers pulling well is as much about the hitch as it is about the truck. Your F250 should be fine but I strongly suggest going to a 20k pull and 2k tongue weight hitch such as the Weigh Safe True Tow or the Blue Ox. I have the Weigh Safe and ours has been flawless. These trailers really want what might seem like overkill on a hitch but it really isn't.
@@terryhatfieldmin right now i have the equlizer 12k. I planned on using it. Do you think i should upgrade it also? What facebook group are you in?
@@seminolewind1999 I would highly doubt that you will be happy with the 12k Equalizer. You can read lots of towing experiences on our group. facebook.com/groups/momentum29g31g
My hitch is only rated 1300# 2016 Denali duramax 1 ton crew cab.Single rear wheel.Sounds like this isn’t the rv for my truck.
Grand Design also offer 12 year warranty on the roof
Nice
will a 15' side by side fit in back bay? Thank you
No. The garage is 13'.
Hello! Sorry to bother you, I know you normally reply and seem to be very knowledgeable with the 31g. We picked ours up 2 weeks ago, tomorrow the Temps will be in the 20s here in Seattle.. I winterized it today and noticed we have 2 freshwater drain valves. Do you have 2? Does one take fill first and then the other automatically? Is one for the front or the back. I've looked online and haven't been able to find many answers. Thank you ahead of time for your posts and help with everything!!
There are 2 freshwater dumps because there are 2 freshwater tanks. They are connected together and will function as 1 once they are filled. When you fill those tanks the front will fill first and then the rear.
@@terryhatfieldmin Thank you sir!!
@@rg9580 Glad to help.
can you put washer + dryer in this? Thanks
No provision for that so it would be a big project.
@@terryhatfieldmin thanks
Nice video, thanks- I’m looking at one Saturday, what did you negotiate for pricing? Dealer here is telling me $51k
Thanks! We ordered ours. We have all the available options less the solar. We'll be adding solar later. We paid $49,800 including $1500 freight.
@@terryhatfieldmin thanks did they give you an msrp when you ordered it?
@@markegan1690 Yes. You can check the MSRP on the Grand Design site. www.granddesignrv.com/shopping-tools/build-and-price-your-grand-design-rv/floorplan/6/65137
what is the total length with the Patio down
43 feet.
@@terryhatfieldmin Thanks. We are looking at a 31G This weekend so that helps alot.
@@redpoole9323 Thanks for watching! We love our 31G. It's been perfect for us.
@@terryhatfieldmin Awesome
Also u got the Best Truck there is to Pull it. I have a Cummins Dually also
We really like this floorplan. How uncomfortable is it to sit on the couch and crane your neck to watch the TV in the living room? How strange does the placement feel? It just looks like a weird placement.
Hey Trevor. It's not bad at all. The TV is on a pivot mount so you can move it out and tilt it towards the theatre seats.
@@terryhatfieldmin great thank you!
@@trevormitchell9221 Glad to help. We absolutely love our 31G!
@@terryhatfieldmin what issues have you had during the last year? I know you mentioned GD was great to work with and they took care of a couple items.
Aren't the carefree awnings the least desirable ones ? Just asking....
Don't really know. I don't own one. The main awning is a Solera and the patio awning is a Thule on our 31G.
can i ask what you paid for this? i’m trying to compare what the local dealer is asking
Hi Adam. It's a completely different world now than it was a year ago when we ordered ours. Prices have shot up 25% or more and very few dealers are doing any where close to the discounts they were giving. We got ours for $49k including the shipping but I'm seeing numbers more in the $60k plus range now in the Facebook groups.
You said you aren’t full timing but would you full time in this trailer?
I suppose it could be done but I would not. Great for a few days but I can't imagine that there is enough storage to fulltime in it unless you were very, very minimalistic.
@@terryhatfieldmin thanks for your response. I’m looking at trailers this size for full time but I have same reservations that you mentioned, however they are much less expensive than a fifth wheel and you can get by with smaller truck.