not that funny when their idiocy is directly affecting people’s brains, mostly children. but of course no way thats their responsibility. coked out cliquey 20-30 yr olds are such positive influences.
I really hate how they really downplayed the sexual assault in their own circle of people yet when it came to callmecarson they casted him out instantly and lied about it.
Slimecicle claimed to have called the cops about it. He called the cops on his "friend" who talked to a girl who was 17 when he was 19. He called the cops over it. With friends like these who needs enemies. These online creators are terrible people.
ya the whole cmc situation was blown so wildly out of proportion its insane. fine with it tho since schlatt and slime have become unfunny and associate with poggers stuff
@@Nothisndhdudjdjdj Maybe so. But if there is it's never been made public. What's been made public was just Carson being cringe, which is already a known aspect of his humor and personality.
@@Chi-Drumming grifter gives them too much credit, theres an art to grifting, these guys just sink their teeth into the most popular streamer/opinion and suck all the fun out of the world like leeches
Not even that. I went back to penguinz0's video yesterday regarding the idbubz apology video to see the comments and all I saw was a bunch of Liblits going off on him and being literal parrots in terms of their talking points.
It baffels me how people listen to ludwid as if the guy who recapped the whole adriana situation by saying "in conclusion... Gambling bad" has any morality what sso ever.
@@techarthunter9000 I don't brag online everytime I give a 50 cents to charity, while building my wealth from stupid broke college kids. I don't hang around with someone who covered up for sexual assault or the one did the assault.
@@goelalphonz8798 I don't watch streamers live since it's an intentional time sink, but I'd be a liar if I didn't say that Lud used to make somewhat entertaining content I would occasionally see on UA-cam before he started almost exclusively stealing other's videos because it was easy content farming. Still doesn't mean he's said anything anyone should actually hold in high regard.
I feel like I'm living under a rock or something. I am not too deep into Twitch streaming, but I know most people Ludwig collaborates with, yet I only learned about Ludwigs existence like 1 year ago. The moment I saw him I thought "He looks like a kid who's friends with everyone because he has rich parents". To me he appeared out of nowhere and was suddenly friends with everyone, even though he had less personality than any of them.
@@cookiebaker2660 you aren't wrong. Lud and his gf's career can be summed up as two frat kids with middling IQs who convinced a bunch of impressionable teenagers that they totally weren't the bullies in school and are extremely intelligent people because they did ok in college.
i could gaf about ludwig but if you think anything this dude says constitutes as a "good" or even "original" point, then you might look into a lobotomy as a way to actually expand your worldview.
Funny how Progressives do not know that their hero's aka FDR and Teddy Roosevelt are Nationalist is another lowerlevel of Fascist even socalist are even nationalist due they want solidarity in their land brining pride on their collective.
honestly that word has lost any and all meaning at this point. Say what you want about the tana mongaeu content cop, but Ian did have a point in the video that still holds up to some extent.
Something about the psychology of the word "fascist" is fascinating, the more someone says it the more fascist they appear to become in thought, action and speech. Really gets the noggin joggin
That's not what happened. He's literally apologising for what he did, rather than just dropping whatever isn't monetisable, i.e. saying the N word (supposedly) etc. If that was all he changed no-one would notice
@@Snagprophet In recent videos he’s done a lot of the same shit. 2/3 subjects of his documentaries don’t like iDubbbz and how he portrayed them. He fat shamed wings in a recent video. He’s doing the same shit just picking his targets better.
It *is* still monetizable. Grifters and prejiduced centrists are beloved here algorithmically. He just decided that in order to keep up with that audience, he'd have to continue going to the extreme, which makes him uncomfortable.
Marketing morality usually denotes a lack thereof. In the 80s it was televangelists, now it’s streamers and content creators. Some things never change I guess
@@OmniFluxX It's not even that though. It's like an evergreen tree: no matter what season you're in, it's most if not always the same color. The same goes for people's own ignorance and how you can always profit off of it in someway.
These people are starting to sound like those right-wing parents in the early 2000s who thought video game companies and musicians needed to take responsibility for real-world violence. Perpetuating the idea that an artist is completely responsible for the actions of their fans is a dangerous narrative that will most certainly lead to fascist worldviews.
At least the right wing parents weren't pushing only fans while they did it. The hypocrisy is unlike anything that's come before, at least in recent memory.
I feel like people don't understand this because it didn't used to be this way. Most streamers do come from humble beginnings and are genuine people at the start, but then they move to LA/Austin and become another soulless cuck
It's so refreshing to have a to the point explanation about that community. Ludwig was the one to say that "I am not your friend" that he is disconnected from the audience. Now he backs from that point, what a dipshit. That final bit at the end was so hard the "Fuck Off" was perfect. Amazing summary from a smaller channel. Keep up the great work!
It's even more ridiculous that the viewers want them to be the moral compass. Like there are people that unironically look to Ludwig/pokimane/Hasan/whoever for opinions on how they should view the world. It's absolutely absurd.
@@goelalphonz8798 critical thought looks like a dying skill. I learned about people making Ai their best friend. These freaks will do anything to avoid any kind of human friction. They will become stunted humans. A lost generation.
Agreed. We have 30 something your olds trying to act like they are babysitters because they know they can't be as edgy as they were 5 or so years back and now they are overcorrecting.
@@likemysnopp I'd have more respect for them if they just admitted to it. I know a lot of people would still hate them but honestly if most of them just said "yeah I mean this was our job and we wanted to keep making money" I would at least respect the honesty. The problem is that now they have to create some cover story about how they all cleaned up their image JUST AS youtube was telling them being edgy wouldn't make them any money.
Couldn’t have said better myself, these are the same people that would criticize and make fun of old people saying videos games are bad for kids, but then turn around complaining about edgy content creators that are more successful.
Throughout it all barely any content creators wanna call out Anisa 😂😂 looks like she’s done her work well integrating herself into a community she’s not apart of.
Many of these "influencers" WERE socially deprived children before they lucked into the fame and fortune. Even the attractive, popular people who lucked into their fame are still socially inept due to the fact most if not all of their friendships and relationships were likely shallow. I base this claim on the hilarious lack of self awareness, maturity and critical thinking most of the top streamers/content creators display.
The sad part with Ian is you know he's just being puppeteered by Anisa. He's the most whipped man I've ever seen, so much so that it goes beyond that. He's denouncing years of his own work that deep down he knows isn't what he called it recently, much of which was influenced by Anisa, especially the Tana Mongeau video.
@encycl07pedia At best, Anisa manipulating Ian is partly responsible for his behaviour. She clearly has influence in the shape of gearing his life towards boxing, something she loves, tattoos in a similar style to hers, something she loves, overcompensating for a "problematic past", which she's done after saying shit about the holocaust. Despite that, we can't act like Ian has no agency. Saying it's all Anisa is effectively the same argument as these idiots saying they're responsible for the actions of the thousands of people who watch them and their actions. Were his actions influenced? Most likely. It wasn't like a gun was held to his head and he was forced to make these bad choices. He's choosing to alienate his old fans and he should have to stand on that view whether he was influenced or not.
@@defiantlydefiant Oh, I don't deny that he's responsible for his actions, but the stuff he says and does... Becoming a (bad) boxer? Defending OF? Apologizing for stuff that isn't 100% PC? That doesn't happen without extreme influence by Yoko. The fact that it's so easy to edit together his earlier clips WITH CONTEXT to mock his current stance is just tragic.
@encycl07pedia While the rest are valid and concerning, he defended sex work a long while before Anisa made an OF. He justified it along the lines of seeing why women do it because of the market that's available and that he has zero issue with that. I can't remember the specific video but I've seen the clip in a few videos. I don't agree with his stance and think there are negative side effects to engaging in sex work but he didn't hard pivot into defending sex work from an anti-sex work perspective like some people think.
I like how they are trying to frame this as a bunch of people just begging for iCuckz to run around screaming the "N-word". That literally has nothing to do with it. The Sam Hyde situation where he got owned so hard he could never recover buried him forever as far as I'm concerned, but at the core of this is using "edgy" humor to build an audience, then when Susan Whoa-Jicky drops the hammer on ad revenue suddenly it's "time to grow up" and "be a better person". iCuckz is a barren husk of a "man" due to the treatment he receives from that woman, as well.
The "I matured" shit is so fake it's disgusting. If he was more mature he wouldn't be a duplicitous creep trying to fuck over anyone who associates with the guy who keeps getting away with it. People who don't see through Ian's bullshit, or pretend not to see it have lost all my respect.
whats ironic is that he proclaims maturity but he also shit talked a young pre teen, and bitches and complains about sam hyde and people on his ass about our wifes onlyfans, like dude get a grip LMAO
I think he's genuine, but poor at the execution and rhetoric. If he had done a content cop on himself and his narrative would've been "I've matured, sorry, but that's not me anymore" without all the crybaby parts, his transition would've been 1000x smoother.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS THIS IS THE VIDEO FR! this is seriously refreshing, im sick and tired of these content creators thinking they are above of what they truly are, entertainers, they aren't parents, not teachers, guardians, etc. they have created this stupid morality mindset which blur the lines of creativity, ethicality, and entertainment; this "toxic positivity" charade needs to end and people need a reality check, we aren't F**king stupid.
The problem is the parents just sit around and let the Internet raise their kids. UA-cam has far, far lower standards (in terms of video content) than any traditional TV station. Kids in the 1980s and 1990s grew up watching cartoons on Saturday mornings with real messages and real writers. Kids now watch Pewdiepie, some brat named Ryan, and other bottom-of-the-barrel "entertainment."
Based and redpilled, depending on the traction this video gets either this video will be ignored or most likely some streamer's ego will get hurt and make a few videos with his friends calling you a troll.
This is what happens when you have a bunch of self-centered people living in the same environment and self-congratulating themselves and each other. This is why echo chambers are bad for everyone. It creates justification where there shouldn't be.
Yeah, I was a Ludbud during pandemic times. Over time, stuff started to clear out and noticed hypocritical behavior while promoting eco-chambers. This whole video is 100% accurate and in my opinion just a perfect example of narrative manipulation. I just stopped looking at any of that community. Their "content" is lazy and their morals are trash. My message to you reader: Strive to be a better person, compare information and think on your own what makes sense and what is irrational. and to the poggers community (if any happen to be here): You just don't care. In all of its sense. You don't care.
I'm in the exact same boat. Lud used to be my favourite streamer but then he started getting political. I think the tipping point for me was when he asked the UA-cam CEO if his girlfriend's podcast got demonetised because it's a female-run podcast, and not the fact that the entire set is full of bottoms of alcohol (which is against TOS). LA is a virus which is Undefeated. Everyone who moved there eventually becomes cucked.
In my book, there is only one situation where one would be responsible for their audience's actions, and that would be if they actively directed their fans to go after someone. At that point, it becomes incitement. To knowledge, Ian never did that.
What a "dunking".... He literally shows a screenshot of what the dude said, claims he said something else, and none of you can muster up the action potentials in your mushbrained dentheads to realize that he's being dishonest. I feel so unbelievably sorry for you.
This is the absolute best take I have seen on this situation. You have consistently been the most mature and intellectually honest about this situation, and for that I thank you.
Just wanted to say thank you for being a voice of reason. You along with Aba and Preach are the only forms of sanity left on this god forsaken hell-scape we call the internet
Papa gut might be right up your alley if you like down to earth content like that. Normal well-adjusted folks like him are such a breath of fresh air from all the performative dopamine siphons I've been partaking in for so long, he's genuinely helped me reform my ideas to something more feasible for the real world and not just the internet which unfortunately far too much of our youth is basing their perceptions of the outside world on these days.
@@dutchsburlychest6793 ill have to give him a watch, i find it rare to find channels that have nuanced, non politically driven takes, optimus is good too i had no issues with him, although he does go on political rants here and there. every other channel is hyper conservative, or insanely liberal af ( and i dont support either team)
@@dutchsburlychest6793 agreed papa gut gives good takes but also u should follow ur own choices and the people around u you care about not let someone dictate them tbh it is the internet and the "real world" is different from this internet bullshit we just watch to escape reality and to be entertained.
@@dutchsburlychest6793 Papa gut sucks. Man once flip flopped on calling out a fake SA claim to "supporting the victim" all because the video he was watching about the topic was made by a woman and his wife got insecure and spent the whole video shitting on the creator. When people called him out for it he deleted the video because he claimed the comments were filled with death threats yet no one saw a single one.
@@cuyxjrplays he doesn't dictate every aspect of my life but in particular he's the reason i stopped using ableist slurs that my terminally online behavior normalized and he debunked this ignorant line of thinking that i had to justify using those words even if i didn't have any hate behind what i said. Not a plea for sympathy when i say this but i don't have anyone in my personal life i can look up to for guidance or a second opinion and i feel like that's unfortunately the case for most people these days who grew up like I did, raised more by the internet than my parental guardian. UA-cam personalities are the only reason I'm doing as well in my life as I am right now. Absentee father differential I guess lol. I still do my best to apply my own interpretation of advice as it pertains to my personal desires, but it really helps to have a well rounded take on something that has been on my mind with no one to talk to about it, like whether or not saying the r word was okay. It plagued my mind for a while and it took someone who wasn't just virtue bullying me to actually sit me down and explain to me why it's not ok to say that word, and it finally clicked.
This guy seriously needs more views found his channel because of the idubbbz video and I was suprised how little interaction it got with how hard the points he made hit.
I've been thinking this. I'm like: I bet if I did the leg work I could find a million examples of them not applying these standards to themselves. Its just that their "irresponsible" moments aren't in the spotlight cause their content isn't superficially edgy. Only when it comes to their ACTIONS do they show their hand, so they can get away with making impossible standards to (I think) push up their agenda/career/opinions and push down everything that's a threat to it. namely, commentary channels, especially those that use comedy to make it more accessible. Cause they're certainly not doing this shit because they've thought it through.
Every last second of this video was like a perfect and cathartic synopsis on the current state of the corporate internet. These streamer personalities are nothing more than a degenerate mob of mainstream aristocrats who exploit young impressionable people and only pretend to be their friend to feed a parasocial relationship that exclusively benefits them.
Every time I see twitch streamers be horrible hypocritical idiots and then turn around and act like they’re morally superior or in any way good people, I feel like becoming irl Johnny Silverhand.
Ever since the rise of the "Influencer" type of people online I always got the impression they carried themselves the same way celebrities do, and this vid perfectly explains why
This is the most straight forward, direct and most honest rant ive seen in ages. Thank God there is a commentary channel who actually stands for something and isnt just smugly laughing about how he does it for money (like turkey tom or nick DeOrio)
Not practicing what you preach is average behavior for rich, selfish influencers which is why i always tell friends to not actually head a lot of the advice they hear from idiotic streamers and influencers.
I would be totally fine with all of their moral grandstanding and other shenanigans if they weren’t so gung-ho about removing others who aren’t aligned with their bullshit
Ludwig also made a video called "This youtuber sucks" where he spent his time INSULTING not criticising a youtuber called TBYS and sent his fans to harass him
Ludwig is so damn charismatic and well spoken but then political activists stick their hand up his ass and he's a happy little puppet for whatever current talking point earns the most twitch subs. It's regretful.
@@spartanboosts Remember that Ninja clip where he's trying to rap fast and accidentally makes the word "Indica" sound like the n word? There wasn't even the POSSIBILITY of bad intent behind it because he was trying to speak an entirely different word. Bro had to publicly announce an apology for literally just making a specific SOUND with his mouth. But oh, "We're not overly sensitive, it's really those bible thumping boomers who are the sensitive ones". I've heard that said by woke millennials more times than I can count. Tell me the last time someone had to publicly apologize for saying the Lord's name in vain. Fuck these people. Jesus...
dude the bootleg onlyfans sponsorship is totally FOUL, making addicted people since their childhood, as they KNOW FULL WELL their audience is in great part kids. I knew streamers were trashy, but that's such another level of awful.
If Ian never believed any of the shit his fans were supposedly on about, he would have probably addressed it while he was making that kind of content. It's so blatantly obvious that this whole apology saga is a cash grab, a sad attempt to save face when it wasn't necessary.
I wouldn’t argue Ian or any of these people have matured at all - I would argue they’ve regressed. They’ve just learned to be more efficient and shifty with their bullying
just subbed. I want to be better and falling for people like this isn’t going to help. So happy I came across this channel ive binged so many vids you’ve made and it’s opening me up into a new more refreshing perspective
really hope stanz and ludwig are fully prepared to take full accountability and responsibility for every single action and bad decision their audience makes. that entire point is just so ridiculous. they're essentially saying that the people in their audience can't take responsibility for their own actions and they, as content creators, need to baby them and make sure they're objectively in the right all the time. it's just bizarre. if you were going around saying the n word because of idubbbz, or any other content creator, that is solely your own fault. take responsibility for your actions, acknowledge that you were a bad person and that you've changed. that's it. it's not the fault of a content creator if you were going around being racist several years ago. that is your own. if you were a child watching idubbbz, you shouldn't have been watching him in the first place and the responsibility lies on your parents and the adults around you for failing to raise you properly.
I believe this is a promotion of a hive mind. Like "if you are the 1/1000000 that commits a crime and you were a fan of my show, that can't be, every member of my community sticks by the same message" Influencers want to stop people from thinking individually and responsibly, they want them to think like "I" think. Its a jumbled thought (sorry, I would like to have the time to structure it better), I hope someone can understand it.
Yes... fucking yes. I'm so tired of people pretending like parents don't exist or that kids don't have brains. When I was younger and watching idubbbz I understood that you can't go around shouting slurs at people just because he did it in his vids for comedic effect. Why? Because I had good parents and a functional brain.
Ludwig made a drunk driving "legally" video so as of now every single drunk driver in the world is a Ludwig viewer. I want him to take accountability for the countless lives lost to drunk driving. It's his fault all that incidents happened after all.
Jesus christ, this is the most brief, surgical and precise roast I have seen short of professional comedians, except this isn't even played for comedy, it's just you thrusting the spear of rebuttal directly into the heart of the matter.
Hes only apologizing for this because his gut is telling him he did wrong after the froggy/sam fiasco but, he is to weak to own up his fuck ups. apologizing for this long done an dusted ancient drama is what he thinks is an easy out.
I just discovered your content in the past week and it is pure fucking gold. You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. I havent seen youtube content this good since the heyday of Metokur. Thank you for renewing my optimism in this platform ❤
While i do think its important to try your best to keep people from harashing others, there's no way to control everyone that is a fan of yours. Its just impossible. I mean it's somthing that can happen if you have a child who rebels and does drugs. If you did everything you could to help them and they just don't listen, it's not on you it's on them
Poggers community - 'Creators are responsible for everything their fans do!' Poggers community - 'We aren't responsible for our friend S/A'ing someone! ' Also Poggers community - 'Amouranth is farming depressed, socially inept men? ITS FINE DW, FEMALE EMPOWERMENT OR SOMETHING?! '
LOL. Does your mushbrain slosh around when you hobble your fat body to the fridge in between propaganda content videos or is it as swollen as your ankles an thus is pretty snug?
We dam well know that not one of these "content creators" is going to take responsibility for there fans action when one of them goes out of there way to kill people or some shit
Sad part about all this that their fans know what monster most of them are and will continue to support them even if more information comes out about each one of them.
Great video. There is nothing wrong with edgy content, and to be honest there is nothing wrong with racial humour. Freedom of speech includes the right to offend, and individuals are responsible for their own actions.
meanwhile twitch is currently killing itself with the new policies lmao, twitch is slowly imploding and im loving every second, (i promise im not cynical, i just cant stand most of the top streamers)
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the fact that these aged millennials think they provide anything but below average drama entertainment is the funniest part
not that funny when their idiocy is directly affecting people’s brains, mostly children. but of course no way thats their responsibility. coked out cliquey 20-30 yr olds are such positive influences.
@@obscure.reference children shouldn't be on the internet in the first place.
Preach it brother.
@@obscure.reference very funny to me actually to see someone get influenced by someone behind a screen. What's next, video games cause violence?
"My content contributes to the world! It MEANS something! Anyway here's another video of me reading funny Reddit comments."
I really hate how they really downplayed the sexual assault in their own circle of people yet when it came to callmecarson they casted him out instantly and lied about it.
Slimecicle claimed to have called the cops about it. He called the cops on his "friend" who talked to a girl who was 17 when he was 19. He called the cops over it. With friends like these who needs enemies. These online creators are terrible people.
ya the whole cmc situation was blown so wildly out of proportion its insane. fine with it tho since schlatt and slime have become unfunny and associate with poggers stuff
@@jackywackysmacky4031idk i feel like theres more then is publicly known about carson
@@Nothisndhdudjdjdj Maybe so. But if there is it's never been made public. What's been made public was just Carson being cringe, which is already a known aspect of his humor and personality.
yeah well twitch streamers be scummy like that
Thank God I'm not alone in these ideas. These "influencers" have simply become parasites.
I think they are called grifters
@@Chi-Drumming that would be hassan and Ethan MentalDeklein lol
@@Chi-Drumming grifter gives them too much credit, theres an art to grifting, these guys just sink their teeth into the most popular streamer/opinion and suck all the fun out of the world like leeches
@Hulk Hogan doing God's work brother
They overestimate their actual "influence."
Finally i really felt like going insane since almost every big youtube creator is making videos how Ian "matured"
It’s because they are all terrified to be called racist . Charlie tried to speak reasonably and it failed
and if you try to say something about him being disengenious you would get hopped on by libtards
Not even that. I went back to penguinz0's video yesterday regarding the idbubz apology video to see the comments and all I saw was a bunch of Liblits going off on him and being literal parrots in terms of their talking points.
In their opinion, maturation is becoming a more sophisticated internet bully.
The behavior he engages in now is far worse than anything he's done in the past.
It baffels me how people listen to ludwid as if the guy who recapped the whole adriana situation by saying "in conclusion... Gambling bad" has any morality what sso ever.
100% Its because he's a conventual attractive man. Attractive people can get away with murder.
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Ludwig*
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@@encycl07pedia- thanks, english teatcher
What morals do you have?4
@@techarthunter9000 I don't brag online everytime I give a 50 cents to charity, while building my wealth from stupid broke college kids. I don't hang around with someone who covered up for sexual assault or the one did the assault.
Said more of value in under 2 minutes than what Ludwig has ever said in his entire streaming career.
Man. I used to love lud like 3 years ago. He fell off and took the LApill so bad
@@goelalphonz8798 I don't watch streamers live since it's an intentional time sink, but I'd be a liar if I didn't say that Lud used to make somewhat entertaining content I would occasionally see on UA-cam before he started almost exclusively stealing other's videos because it was easy content farming. Still doesn't mean he's said anything anyone should actually hold in high regard.
I feel like I'm living under a rock or something. I am not too deep into Twitch streaming, but I know most people Ludwig collaborates with, yet I only learned about Ludwigs existence like 1 year ago. The moment I saw him I thought "He looks like a kid who's friends with everyone because he has rich parents". To me he appeared out of nowhere and was suddenly friends with everyone, even though he had less personality than any of them.
@@cookiebaker2660 you aren't wrong. Lud and his gf's career can be summed up as two frat kids with middling IQs who convinced a bunch of impressionable teenagers that they totally weren't the bullies in school and are extremely intelligent people because they did ok in college.
i could gaf about ludwig but if you think anything this dude says constitutes as a "good" or even "original" point, then you might look into a lobotomy as a way to actually expand your worldview.
The irony in it that some of these content creators' favorite word is "Fascist" is hilarious.
People who call other people “fascist” when I revive Benito Mussolini and starts up the PNF again: 🗿
Funny how Progressives do not know that their hero's aka FDR and Teddy Roosevelt are Nationalist is another lowerlevel of Fascist even socalist are even nationalist due they want solidarity in their land brining pride on their collective.
honestly that word has lost any and all meaning at this point. Say what you want about the tana mongaeu content cop, but Ian did have a point in the video that still holds up to some extent.
It's meaningless. I don't think a single one of them could actually explain what it is.
Something about the psychology of the word "fascist" is fascinating, the more someone says it the more fascist they appear to become in thought, action and speech. Really gets the noggin joggin
I think asmon made a fair point, idubbbz didn't mature because he gained empathy or something, he did it because it wasn't monetizable anymore
That's not what happened. He's literally apologising for what he did, rather than just dropping whatever isn't monetisable, i.e. saying the N word (supposedly) etc. If that was all he changed no-one would notice
@@Snagprophet
In recent videos he’s done a lot of the same shit. 2/3 subjects of his documentaries don’t like iDubbbz and how he portrayed them. He fat shamed wings in a recent video. He’s doing the same shit just picking his targets better.
It *is* still monetizable. Grifters and prejiduced centrists are beloved here algorithmically. He just decided that in order to keep up with that audience, he'd have to continue going to the extreme, which makes him uncomfortable.
@@kellei9h yeah, people went from Fasc and the Edgious to Initial G(rift) since picking another tactic to bully is a smart albeit shitty move
imagine referencing asmongold takes unironically
Marketing morality usually denotes a lack thereof. In the 80s it was televangelists, now it’s streamers and content creators. Some things never change I guess
damn history really do be repeating itself
@@OmniFluxX It's not even that though. It's like an evergreen tree: no matter what season you're in, it's most if not always the same color. The same goes for people's own ignorance and how you can always profit off of it in someway.
You forgot corporations and government today. But, whatever.
@@OmniFluxX history is not repeating but it likes to ryhme
These people are starting to sound like those right-wing parents in the early 2000s who thought video game companies and musicians needed to take responsibility for real-world violence. Perpetuating the idea that an artist is completely responsible for the actions of their fans is a dangerous narrative that will most certainly lead to fascist worldviews.
At least the right wing parents weren't pushing only fans while they did it. The hypocrisy is unlike anything that's come before, at least in recent memory.
Agreed, they're equally as obnoxious and narrow-minded.
@@UltraReviewShow yes, the whole, "18 year olds are only kids, but, 18 year olds should be doing only fans", stuff is really messed up.
You sure it wasn't the early 90s when that was happening? I recall that it started dying down by the 2000s. But maybe I'm wrong.
@@GangsterFrankensteinComputer I love when celebrity influencers keep giving sex trafficking a market to thrive on.
These "influencers" are no better than those Hollywood celebrities in how monotonous and bandwagoning their "opinions" are. The swamp runs DEEP!!
I feel like people don't understand this because it didn't used to be this way.
Most streamers do come from humble beginnings and are genuine people at the start, but then they move to LA/Austin and become another soulless cuck
bro went straight to the point
This video should be an unskippable ad on Twitch.
It's so refreshing to have a to the point explanation about that community. Ludwig was the one to say that "I am not your friend" that he is disconnected from the audience. Now he backs from that point, what a dipshit. That final bit at the end was so hard the "Fuck Off" was perfect. Amazing summary from a smaller channel. Keep up the great work!
Thank you. It's absolutely ridiculous that these people are trying to be a generation's "moral compass"
It's even more ridiculous that the viewers want them to be the moral compass. Like there are people that unironically look to Ludwig/pokimane/Hasan/whoever for opinions on how they should view the world. It's absolutely absurd.
@@goelalphonz8798 critical thought looks like a dying skill. I learned about people making Ai their best friend. These freaks will do anything to avoid any kind of human friction. They will become stunted humans. A lost generation.
Agreed. We have 30 something your olds trying to act like they are babysitters because they know they can't be as edgy as they were 5 or so years back and now they are overcorrecting.
well.. they can, but then they dont get paid as much. Its all about the money now days on youtube etc
@@likemysnopp The monetization of UA-cam and its consequences have been a disaster for the online community
@@likemysnopp I'd have more respect for them if they just admitted to it. I know a lot of people would still hate them but honestly if most of them just said "yeah I mean this was our job and we wanted to keep making money" I would at least respect the honesty. The problem is that now they have to create some cover story about how they all cleaned up their image JUST AS youtube was telling them being edgy wouldn't make them any money.
Couldn’t have said better myself, these are the same people that would criticize and make fun of old people saying videos games are bad for kids, but then turn around complaining about edgy content creators that are more successful.
Unfathomably correct in every way possible. Quick, and to the point.
Never trust a person who goes on about how empathetic they are
Throughout it all barely any content creators wanna call out Anisa 😂😂 looks like she’s done her work well integrating herself into a community she’s not apart of.
She's literally a demon; only explanation for her extreme influence
@_*ZAPATOZ*_ Heh just like a certain group of European style socialists
@@satzbau9185 Murdoch Murdoch is a gem
Many of these "influencers" WERE socially deprived children before they lucked into the fame and fortune. Even the attractive, popular people who lucked into their fame are still socially inept due to the fact most if not all of their friendships and relationships were likely shallow. I base this claim on the hilarious lack of self awareness, maturity and critical thinking most of the top streamers/content creators display.
The sad part with Ian is you know he's just being puppeteered by Anisa. He's the most whipped man I've ever seen, so much so that it goes beyond that. He's denouncing years of his own work that deep down he knows isn't what he called it recently, much of which was influenced by Anisa, especially the Tana Mongeau video.
@encycl07pedia At best, Anisa manipulating Ian is partly responsible for his behaviour. She clearly has influence in the shape of gearing his life towards boxing, something she loves, tattoos in a similar style to hers, something she loves, overcompensating for a "problematic past", which she's done after saying shit about the holocaust.
Despite that, we can't act like Ian has no agency. Saying it's all Anisa is effectively the same argument as these idiots saying they're responsible for the actions of the thousands of people who watch them and their actions.
Were his actions influenced? Most likely. It wasn't like a gun was held to his head and he was forced to make these bad choices. He's choosing to alienate his old fans and he should have to stand on that view whether he was influenced or not.
@@defiantlydefiant Oh, I don't deny that he's responsible for his actions, but the stuff he says and does... Becoming a (bad) boxer? Defending OF? Apologizing for stuff that isn't 100% PC? That doesn't happen without extreme influence by Yoko. The fact that it's so easy to edit together his earlier clips WITH CONTEXT to mock his current stance is just tragic.
@encycl07pedia While the rest are valid and concerning, he defended sex work a long while before Anisa made an OF. He justified it along the lines of seeing why women do it because of the market that's available and that he has zero issue with that. I can't remember the specific video but I've seen the clip in a few videos.
I don't agree with his stance and think there are negative side effects to engaging in sex work but he didn't hard pivot into defending sex work from an anti-sex work perspective like some people think.
I like it how these influencers think that their audiences are dumb, easy to manipulate, and have to guide them away from wrong think.
It's made sadder by the fact that it works
I like how they are trying to frame this as a bunch of people just begging for iCuckz to run around screaming the "N-word". That literally has nothing to do with it. The Sam Hyde situation where he got owned so hard he could never recover buried him forever as far as I'm concerned, but at the core of this is using "edgy" humor to build an audience, then when Susan Whoa-Jicky drops the hammer on ad revenue suddenly it's "time to grow up" and "be a better person". iCuckz is a barren husk of a "man" due to the treatment he receives from that woman, as well.
It’s so funny how they went full circle.
These kinds of people would blame video games for real life violence in the 90s and 00s
God I hope they all see this, fucking *chefs kiss*
The "I matured" shit is so fake it's disgusting. If he was more mature he wouldn't be a duplicitous creep trying to fuck over anyone who associates with the guy who keeps getting away with it.
People who don't see through Ian's bullshit, or pretend not to see it have lost all my respect.
People sometimes aren't willing to look past the shallow "redemption ark" story
Tipster comes to mind.
whats ironic is that he proclaims maturity but he also shit talked a young pre teen, and bitches and complains about sam hyde and people on his ass about our wifes onlyfans, like dude get a grip LMAO
wat
I think he's genuine, but poor at the execution and rhetoric.
If he had done a content cop on himself and his narrative would've been "I've matured, sorry, but that's not me anymore" without all the crybaby parts, his transition would've been 1000x smoother.
Who would have thought most these big streamers were just outright awful people
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS THIS IS THE VIDEO FR! this is seriously refreshing, im sick and tired of these content creators thinking they are above of what they truly are, entertainers, they aren't parents, not teachers, guardians, etc. they have created this stupid morality mindset which blur the lines of creativity, ethicality, and entertainment; this "toxic positivity" charade needs to end and people need a reality check, we aren't F**king stupid.
The problem is the parents just sit around and let the Internet raise their kids. UA-cam has far, far lower standards (in terms of video content) than any traditional TV station. Kids in the 1980s and 1990s grew up watching cartoons on Saturday mornings with real messages and real writers. Kids now watch Pewdiepie, some brat named Ryan, and other bottom-of-the-barrel "entertainment."
thank you for putting what I've been thinking about all of these people into words
SSohpkc pic, broo that is nostalgic
@@Warpedlogicalbruh did you watch the sarcastic series where he's near an fireplace doing shit. Was kind of good
@@CoronaAleks Back when The Creatures were still pumping content, hell yeah. To think it has been almost a decade since then.
I really hate Twitch culture, I hope every single one of these streamers that are apart of these scandals end up homeless.
The weakest sam hyde enjoyer (strong and confident, socially well adjusted) vs the entire just chatting army (they are peepee heads)
I don’t feel inclined to take moral advice from people who orchestrated a cover up of someone’s sexual assault for the sake of their brand.
For some odd reason I can’t remember Asmon’s take on the Idubbz situation, but even if he didn’t exactly follow the wave, the criticism was spot on.
Based and redpilled, depending on the traction this video gets either this video will be ignored or most likely some streamer's ego will get hurt and make a few videos with his friends calling you a troll.
The last "fuck off" really hit diffirent. Excellent message. Short yet hard hitting and so true
Influencers: think for yourselves, but also I have to hand-hold you on what you should believe.
This is what happens when you have a bunch of self-centered people living in the same environment and self-congratulating themselves and each other. This is why echo chambers are bad for everyone. It creates justification where there shouldn't be.
Glitch Poacher droppin heat, destroyed a whole community in 1 minute and 44 seconds.
Yeah, I was a Ludbud during pandemic times. Over time, stuff started to clear out and noticed hypocritical behavior while promoting eco-chambers. This whole video is 100% accurate and in my opinion just a perfect example of narrative manipulation.
I just stopped looking at any of that community. Their "content" is lazy and their morals are trash.
My message to you reader: Strive to be a better person, compare information and think on your own what makes sense and what is irrational.
and to the poggers community (if any happen to be here): You just don't care. In all of its sense. You don't care.
I'm in the exact same boat. Lud used to be my favourite streamer but then he started getting political.
I think the tipping point for me was when he asked the UA-cam CEO if his girlfriend's podcast got demonetised because it's a female-run podcast, and not the fact that the entire set is full of bottoms of alcohol (which is against TOS).
LA is a virus which is Undefeated. Everyone who moved there eventually becomes cucked.
In my book, there is only one situation where one would be responsible for their audience's actions, and that would be if they actively directed their fans to go after someone. At that point, it becomes incitement. To knowledge, Ian never did that.
This perfectly summerizes like 99% of the top twitch streamers holy shit
I’ll always be there when someone dunks on ludwig
What a "dunking".... He literally shows a screenshot of what the dude said, claims he said something else, and none of you can muster up the action potentials in your mushbrained dentheads to realize that he's being dishonest. I feel so unbelievably sorry for you.
bro i'm still perplexed by how ludwig is even a thing.
dude is somehow more milquetoast than milquetoast.
he is attractive
Honestly, the most succinct summary of this entire situation.
This is the absolute best take I have seen on this situation. You have consistently been the most mature and intellectually honest about this situation, and for that I thank you.
Just wanted to say thank you for being a voice of reason. You along with Aba and Preach are the only forms of sanity left on this god forsaken hell-scape we call the internet
Papa gut might be right up your alley if you like down to earth content like that. Normal well-adjusted folks like him are such a breath of fresh air from all the performative dopamine siphons I've been partaking in for so long, he's genuinely helped me reform my ideas to something more feasible for the real world and not just the internet which unfortunately far too much of our youth is basing their perceptions of the outside world on these days.
@@dutchsburlychest6793 ill have to give him a watch, i find it rare to find channels that have nuanced, non politically driven takes, optimus is good too i had no issues with him, although he does go on political rants here and there. every other channel is hyper conservative, or insanely liberal af ( and i dont support either team)
@@dutchsburlychest6793 agreed papa gut gives good takes but also u should follow ur own choices and the people around u you care about not let someone dictate them tbh it is the internet and the "real world" is different from this internet bullshit we just watch to escape reality and to be entertained.
@@dutchsburlychest6793 Papa gut sucks. Man once flip flopped on calling out a fake SA claim to "supporting the victim" all because the video he was watching about the topic was made by a woman and his wife got insecure and spent the whole video shitting on the creator. When people called him out for it he deleted the video because he claimed the comments were filled with death threats yet no one saw a single one.
@@cuyxjrplays he doesn't dictate every aspect of my life but in particular he's the reason i stopped using ableist slurs that my terminally online behavior normalized and he debunked this ignorant line of thinking that i had to justify using those words even if i didn't have any hate behind what i said. Not a plea for sympathy when i say this but i don't have anyone in my personal life i can look up to for guidance or a second opinion and i feel like that's unfortunately the case for most people these days who grew up like I did, raised more by the internet than my parental guardian. UA-cam personalities are the only reason I'm doing as well in my life as I am right now. Absentee father differential I guess lol. I still do my best to apply my own interpretation of advice as it pertains to my personal desires, but it really helps to have a well rounded take on something that has been on my mind with no one to talk to about it, like whether or not saying the r word was okay. It plagued my mind for a while and it took someone who wasn't just virtue bullying me to actually sit me down and explain to me why it's not ok to say that word, and it finally clicked.
This guy seriously needs more views found his channel because of the idubbbz video and I was suprised how little interaction it got with how hard the points he made hit.
Let these level 1 moral pillars crumble and scatter to the wind.
It needs time until their own turn on them, right now their audience is still too attached to them
I've been thinking this. I'm like: I bet if I did the leg work I could find a million examples of them not applying these standards to themselves.
Its just that their "irresponsible" moments aren't in the spotlight cause their content isn't superficially edgy. Only when it comes to their ACTIONS do they show their hand, so they can get away with making impossible standards to (I think) push up their agenda/career/opinions and push down everything that's a threat to it. namely, commentary channels, especially those that use comedy to make it more accessible.
Cause they're certainly not doing this shit because they've thought it through.
Please do bro, especially the poggers community
I’ve seen you somewhere before.
Every last second of this video was like a perfect and cathartic synopsis on the current state of the corporate internet. These streamer personalities are nothing more than a degenerate mob of mainstream aristocrats who exploit young impressionable people and only pretend to be their friend to feed a parasocial relationship that exclusively benefits them.
Facts
Is there a non-corporate internet? You phrase it like there's a distinction.
@@cultreader9751 yeah there's a more mainstream tailored internet (i.e. corporate) and then there's the more miscellaneous obscure side.
Then after they get all the money and benefits of creating parasocial relatio nships, they then go ahead and drop their audience like ludwig.
Every time I see twitch streamers be horrible hypocritical idiots and then turn around and act like they’re morally superior or in any way good people, I feel like becoming irl Johnny Silverhand.
Ever since the rise of the "Influencer" type of people online I always got the impression they carried themselves the same way celebrities do, and this vid perfectly explains why
This is the most straight forward, direct and most honest rant ive seen in ages. Thank God there is a commentary channel who actually stands for something and isnt just smugly laughing about how he does it for money (like turkey tom or nick DeOrio)
I’ve always wondered how Glitch feels about those types and vice versa.
In just one minute u destroyed all new era youtubers and twitch streamers "arguments"
Not practicing what you preach is average behavior for rich, selfish influencers which is why i always tell friends to not actually head a lot of the advice they hear from idiotic streamers and influencers.
I would be totally fine with all of their moral grandstanding and other shenanigans if they weren’t so gung-ho about removing others who aren’t aligned with their bullshit
Ludwig also made a video called "This youtuber sucks" where he spent his time INSULTING not criticising a youtuber called TBYS and sent his fans to harass him
Goddamn this based, and its just what I needed to start my morning off with.
Based on what
It's not based at all. This is a properly articulated point people who don't follow the herd think
This is the type of UA-cam commentary we need!
You said everything that needed to be said and didn't drag it out to even 2 minutes. Respect
PREACH! those people need a hard reality check. I've had that my whole life, now i can heal. they made it and just want more.
I like Ludwig but he is such a God damn yes man. He is gonna realize one of these days that you can't please everyone.
I think that's just called being spineless fam
Ludwig is so damn charismatic and well spoken but then political activists stick their hand up his ass and he's a happy little puppet for whatever current talking point earns the most twitch subs. It's regretful.
@@bums009 dawg he’s a popular twitch streamer. How can he not be spineless
I really hope he slips up with a n word and gets cancelled.
@@spartanboosts Remember that Ninja clip where he's trying to rap fast and accidentally makes the word "Indica" sound like the n word? There wasn't even the POSSIBILITY of bad intent behind it because he was trying to speak an entirely different word. Bro had to publicly announce an apology for literally just making a specific SOUND with his mouth.
But oh, "We're not overly sensitive, it's really those bible thumping boomers who are the sensitive ones". I've heard that said by woke millennials more times than I can count. Tell me the last time someone had to publicly apologize for saying the Lord's name in vain. Fuck these people. Jesus...
dude the bootleg onlyfans sponsorship is totally FOUL, making addicted people since their childhood, as they KNOW FULL WELL their audience is in great part kids. I knew streamers were trashy, but that's such another level of awful.
*Foul
If Ian never believed any of the shit his fans were supposedly on about, he would have probably addressed it while he was making that kind of content.
It's so blatantly obvious that this whole apology saga is a cash grab, a sad attempt to save face when it wasn't necessary.
You have no idea how grateful I am that these videos exists, almost all of these streamers and influencers are so fake nowadays.
This is a beautiful video. I deeply thank you for it.
I wouldn’t argue Ian or any of these people have matured at all - I would argue they’ve regressed. They’ve just learned to be more efficient and shifty with their bullying
Every UA-camr needs to watch Glitch Poachers to check themselves.
Very few celebrities are consistent or good but for some reason they are always the ones moral grandstanding.
just subbed. I want to be better and falling for people like this isn’t going to help. So happy I came across this channel ive binged so many vids you’ve made and it’s opening me up into a new more refreshing perspective
Based
Damn, this video was short, but it hit a lot points hard. The truth has been spoken.
really hope stanz and ludwig are fully prepared to take full accountability and responsibility for every single action and bad decision their audience makes. that entire point is just so ridiculous. they're essentially saying that the people in their audience can't take responsibility for their own actions and they, as content creators, need to baby them and make sure they're objectively in the right all the time. it's just bizarre. if you were going around saying the n word because of idubbbz, or any other content creator, that is solely your own fault. take responsibility for your actions, acknowledge that you were a bad person and that you've changed. that's it. it's not the fault of a content creator if you were going around being racist several years ago. that is your own. if you were a child watching idubbbz, you shouldn't have been watching him in the first place and the responsibility lies on your parents and the adults around you for failing to raise you properly.
I believe this is a promotion of a hive mind. Like "if you are the 1/1000000 that commits a crime and you were a fan of my show, that can't be, every member of my community sticks by the same message"
Influencers want to stop people from thinking individually and responsibly, they want them to think like "I" think.
Its a jumbled thought (sorry, I would like to have the time to structure it better), I hope someone can understand it.
Yes... fucking yes. I'm so tired of people pretending like parents don't exist or that kids don't have brains. When I was younger and watching idubbbz I understood that you can't go around shouting slurs at people just because he did it in his vids for comedic effect. Why? Because I had good parents and a functional brain.
Ludwig made a drunk driving "legally" video so as of now every single drunk driver in the world is a Ludwig viewer. I want him to take accountability for the countless lives lost to drunk driving. It's his fault all that incidents happened after all.
Ludwig is the same fucker who made an I'm not your friend video btw
Verbally said “fucking based” gained a subscriber
Jesus christ, this is the most brief, surgical and precise roast I have seen short of professional comedians, except this isn't even played for comedy, it's just you thrusting the spear of rebuttal directly into the heart of the matter.
Banger as usual glitch
Really hope you get the recognition you deserve. Feels like you’re one of the last sane commentary channels left on the site
Hes only apologizing for this because his gut is telling him he did wrong after the froggy/sam fiasco but, he is to weak to own up his fuck ups. apologizing for this long done an dusted ancient drama is what he thinks is an easy out.
Been watching a few of your videos here and there, this is the one that made me sub.
Well spoken.
I just discovered your content in the past week and it is pure fucking gold. You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. I havent seen youtube content this good since the heyday of Metokur. Thank you for renewing my optimism in this platform ❤
"Content creators are responsible for their audience"
- A content creator who takes no responsibility for their audience.
While i do think its important to try your best to keep people from harashing others, there's no way to control everyone that is a fan of yours. Its just impossible. I mean it's somthing that can happen if you have a child who rebels and does drugs. If you did everything you could to help them and they just don't listen, it's not on you it's on them
Poggers community - 'Creators are responsible for everything their fans do!'
Poggers community - 'We aren't responsible for our friend S/A'ing someone! '
Also Poggers community - 'Amouranth is farming depressed, socially inept men? ITS FINE DW, FEMALE EMPOWERMENT OR SOMETHING?! '
Nothing but the truth, well said.
LOL. Does your mushbrain slosh around when you hobble your fat body to the fridge in between propaganda content videos or is it as swollen as your ankles an thus is pretty snug?
Definitely the best sub squad in all of yt
Thank god someone is talking about this. I thought I was just being a downer thinking similar opinions but it seems there's some truth to it.
You've made the most sense out of anyone in such a short span amount of time, are you a UA-camr?
Ian making edgy teen content at age 28, says it all.
thank you
this is just 2023 celebrity drama
We dam well know that not one of these "content creators" is going to take responsibility for there fans action when one of them goes out of there way to kill people or some shit
Sad part about all this that their fans know what monster most of them are and will continue to support them even if more information comes out about each one of them.
If there were more people like you the Internet wouldn’t be the sanitized corporate hellscape it currently is. Keep it up
Great video.
There is nothing wrong with edgy content, and to be honest there is nothing wrong with racial humour.
Freedom of speech includes the right to offend, and individuals are responsible for their own actions.
LETS GOOOO NIBBA
I really hope one of the people in the "Poggers" community sees this video. They need a reality check and for their egos to be checked.
…There might be a way for one to see this video…
Ian has such a bloated ego that he thinks he has to explain irony lol
Mic drop.
thank you very much for making this video you describe my frustration with "internet celebrities" in just two minutes
You need more subs tbh
meanwhile twitch is currently killing itself with the new policies lmao, twitch is slowly imploding and im loving every second, (i promise im not cynical, i just cant stand most of the top streamers)
I felt that fuck off at the end g
Yeah he's done with it.