at 39:28 after that deep and valid point by the speaker the lady laughed it and moved to some video. Why on Earth would you stop that conversation at such a significant point ?
Agreed, after they shut that down it was clear they didn't really want to discuss anything of any real consequence. He made the most important point of the whole programme and it was treated like nothing.
Solethu Nkosi from South Africa. Watching and listening to the groundbreaking discoveries in sciences and economics. Physics background with C3 rating.
Looking from India state Himachal capital Shimla today 18/12/24 my background is Bachelor of Science in Chemistry Honours. And I am very curious about know noble laureate. Thanks this session for noble prize committee for taking such beautiful initiative to people and show good shows.
I give respect to the brilliant minds. We are indebted to them for bringing comfort to our life. But I do want to comment that their innovative minds have failed so far to bring the essence of democracy that the contributions from all stations of life for the welfare of society have equal value.
After watching the 2019 Nobel laureates discussion with Zainab Badawi, I got addicted to science and economics and here we are 2024 fascinated by scientist and economist for their groundbreaking discoveries in their various disciplines.
The fact that people miss out on so much knowledge and intelligence is mind-blogging. UA-cam please make algorithms such that younger people see more things like this than random videos. I love that despite all disagreements, they agreed that it's our fault that we are going to end our civilization.
This video is about 100x too long for the average Gen Z. Not being juvenophobic, I'm gen z and the media that my peers choose to consume is disappointing. I know people who literally can't watch a movie or episode of a show anymore without getting their phone out. Of course that's not everyone though and I agree science/intellectual content should be promoted more.
A perfect discussion about artificial intelligence! Thank you for all Lauretes and Zaynab Badawi for this program. (I want to mention that it is always inspiring to hear from Acemoğlu & Co.)
🎉 great conversation. I hope humanity will heed prof. Geoffrey Hinton's urgent sensible warning, and that we should act now to figure out how we'll stay in control, future proof.
15:08 Let it be known that one of the inventors of television, Philo T Fransworth was also not optimistic about the advances of television. He once warned his child about tv: "There's nothing on it worthwhile, and we're not going to watch it in this household, and I don't want it in your intellectual diet."
I hope to make contributions to humanity in physics, chemistry and literature that are Nobel prize worthy, regardless of whether I win the prize or not. Progress is more important than ego.
Thanks for this talk and congratulations to the NP winners -from France🇫🇷. But I’m surprised by the little interest these great thinkers have for philosophy. I thought that consciousness, sentience and subjective experience were philosophical questions long before science got interested in it. Same for human existence and human actions. Science and Philosophy must coexist for the benefit of Humanity, more than ever in our times of great danger
My take on this is that it's crucial for AI safety to objectively get the nature of generative AI right and how it compares to our biological being. That requires a scientific approach, while philosophers might confuse this quest with vague terms and interpretations without evidence. That might obscure objective reality and therefore work against timely AI safety solutions. With this extremely powerful technology and AI race we can't afford to get it wrong.
Yes , that's why i felt the table missed the presence of Han kang , the literature laureate and also the peace prize laureate , Ai can describe the taste of salt but has never tasted it
Philosophy is the first established branch of Science......mathematics was the very first one.....but thanks to philosophy we as humanity were able to ponder new ways to understand the unknown. The second branch of science is technology and then medicine. The Wise_One Σ+ .
I've heard a lot of AI debates in which someone brings forward an argument that AI will not put humans completely out of work, in a way similar to how happened in history. This does not consider the fact that every time a technological innovation killed a job sector, it was only one job sector, as the said innovation was specific. This is not the case this time around. This is the first innovation that is truly general in nature. It won't take away one sector, but all at once, from manual labour to research on the edge of the known and unknown. I like to imagine humans doing nothing but explore other planets and star systems, and let AI do all the work. Either that or we become cyborgs by combining the high knowledge capacity artificial neurons with our biological neurons to instantly become as intelligent as the AI itself. In that way, our conscious self remains in control (hopefully).
Excellent interviewer, kept it fresh and dynamic. I like that they point to the darker sides and weren’t too self congratulatory. I am surprised by the strong and clear condemnation of colonialism of the economists, that with a little bit more color in their team would make it even more interesting. Looking forward to finding out and learning more about the prize recipients. Congratulations!
It is fascinating to observe that even Nobel laureates are not immune to the influence of their beliefs, biases, and political inclinations. When contemplating the unknown or envisioning the future, we humans often rely on preconceived notions to construct meaning and prepare for uncertainties and I think this capacity for imagination, combined with other critical traits, has undoubtedly played a pivotal role in our evolutionary trajectory, establishing us as one of the most manipulative species on Earth.
This was a wonderful experience. It's my first time even hearing about Nobel Minds, and the presenter made a wonderful job at introducing everyone and keeping things friendly and (more importantly) warming. Thank you so much for making this! Have a good day!
This is like 8th or 9th Nobel Minds am watching, it’s always super educative. AI may challenge humanity in the future but that will not happen automatically: this means that we humans have to be very careful about AI and other machines.
I am here only for Geoffrey Hinton, and I think those other nobelist are trying to cover or they don't understand the future of human with AI, and there comes Geoffrey
2 fundamental disciplines - in my opinion - will eventually determine the trajectory of civilisation and the future of humanity: Science and Philosophy.
"the kind of philosophy we don't need I think is philosophers talking about Consciousness and sentience and subjective experience I think understanding those is a scientific problem and we'll be better off without philosophers" 🔥 Hinton absolutely swinging! 🤣
This discussion became quite deep but unfortunately was getting cut off constantly. The truth is, these notable people want to really share their opinion but they are stopped due to external factors, like fear from intelligence agencies, things like whistleblowers getting silenced and etc. This is what makes me quite sad that we will never get to understand the full truth and just have to ponder on what will happen ourselves.
Fascinated discussion about AI and the challenges humanity will face. I totally believe that science and philosophy most coexist for the benefit future of humanity …. (No matter if Geoffrey Hinton laugh of this consciousness subject) thanks for sharing so wonderful insights.
Thanks 🙏 for having conversation among Nobel personalities at round table. To keep a check and balance ⚖️ upon the development of AI technology in meaningful directions, there will be need to utilise more and some more amount of energy usage. However, Non-renewabable sources of energy such as coal and hydro-carbon based petrolium fuels are not the best way to get things 😀 done. It will not only deplete the deposits of energy resources from this planet at even greater pace but it could potentially degrade our environment, also.
However, to mitigate the requirements of continuous need to energy to feed AI and computational systems along with robotics and 🤓 smart devices, humanity to make a balanced choices of utilising energy sources. And, I think 🤔 including Sunlight and Water to produce hydrogen and oxygen is a tremendous opportunity. 😃
feels like i am back in college where me and my friends discuss of about new things happening. Its good and bad to know that they have no idea what they are talking about !
what I want to know is the research about the existence of microbiome in brain is true or not? Because if that's true then the mechanism theory on how the brain work might change
I thought the Novel table would be above the alarmist notions of AI. I’m disappointed in our host leading us into that foray with such vigour. Alas, good answers showed that we should not worry. What petty things.
well sweden thanks for the invite, but i assume you dont really want me here, and i mean on this video, but as you know my place, you happy, thanks thanks thanks
Geoffrey is a good man. I think what he means by consciousness being a scientific problem is valid and goes back to the argument of Roger Penrose. That is, consciousness exists in quantum realm and that is to be tested and be seen. STOP and look at your hands. Move it. How did you even do that? And this fast? Electricity; fundamental to existence. Yet barely, taken up from the ground. Look at Michael Levin’s two headed planery. Anyways, Geoffrey is a good man. He is pure and siding with US and supposedly the most brilliant minds of his generation laughing at him is ridiculous.
what did the economists really discover that anyone with half an idea on the subject didn't already know? doesn't take a genius to understand there was good and bad that came from colonisation. They could barely answer the questions about what should happen going forward
I'm very happy that once again brilliant minds are doing their best to improve life on earth. This is what we need to focus on as humanity; not countries fighting against each other.
We don't need Philosophers...that's coming from a Laureate whose first few words to answer the question of "how does the brain work" was "we don't know".
at 39:28 after that deep and valid point by the speaker the lady laughed it and moved to some video. Why on Earth would you stop that conversation at such a significant point ?
Agreed, after they shut that down it was clear they didn't really want to discuss anything of any real consequence. He made the most important point of the whole programme and it was treated like nothing.
The elites who would be hosting a conversation between Nobel Laureates don't want anybody trashing capitalism.
yeah that needed more discussion, I hope she had asked the economists of their opinion
Offcourse she wouldn't want to Trigger her Capitalist boses
Time
Always amazing to watch smart guys thinking about smart things! Keep changing the world
I love Hintons blunt honest style lol
Greatly admire how wonderful, lively and engaging this conversation is! So much to learn and to work for!
Solethu Nkosi from South Africa. Watching and listening to the groundbreaking discoveries in sciences and economics. Physics background with C3 rating.
Okay?
Looking from India state Himachal capital Shimla today 18/12/24 my background is Bachelor of Science in Chemistry Honours. And I am very curious about know noble laureate. Thanks this session for noble prize committee for taking such beautiful initiative to people and show good shows.
Thank you sir
I know good things AI for everything but controlling is not good.
Ya i am also watching from haryana. Great to see my people here
I give respect to the brilliant minds. We are indebted to them for bringing comfort to our life.
But I do want to comment that their innovative minds have failed so far to bring the essence of democracy that the contributions from all stations of life for the welfare of society have equal value.
i am from rajasthan
I hope i get this prize some day
After watching the 2019 Nobel laureates discussion with Zainab Badawi, I got addicted to science and economics and here we are 2024 fascinated by scientist and economist for their groundbreaking discoveries in their various disciplines.
Waiting for this discussion since the announcements
Excellent discussions with scholars of various areas. Very useful.
27:24 "And the skeptics DIED" so real LMAOO
Was he being sarcastic when he said this?
What a great conversation about AI and the challenges humanity will face! Thanks from Brazil 🇧🇷
Gary is such a good talker, makes everything interesting and joyful
The fact that people miss out on so much knowledge and intelligence is mind-blogging. UA-cam please make algorithms such that younger people see more things like this than random videos. I love that despite all disagreements, they agreed that it's our fault that we are going to end our civilization.
This video is about 100x too long for the average Gen Z. Not being juvenophobic, I'm gen z and the media that my peers choose to consume is disappointing. I know people who literally can't watch a movie or episode of a show anymore without getting their phone out. Of course that's not everyone though and I agree science/intellectual content should be promoted more.
It is too easy to get caught up in mindless entertainment and pretend life is ok. We should always better ourself and seek knowledge.
She just cut David off at 10:30, not so great hosting.
Those gems with such smartness whenever zero points of Egos. Congratulations Laureates ❤🎉
A perfect discussion about artificial intelligence! Thank you for all Lauretes and Zaynab Badawi for this program. (I want to mention that it is always inspiring to hear from Acemoğlu & Co.)
🎉 great conversation. I hope humanity will heed prof. Geoffrey Hinton's urgent sensible warning, and that we should act now to figure out how we'll stay in control, future proof.
Where is Han Kang, please?
15:08 Let it be known that one of the inventors of television, Philo T Fransworth was also not optimistic about the advances of television. He once warned his child about tv: "There's nothing on it worthwhile, and we're not going to watch it in this household, and I don't want it in your intellectual diet."
Congratulations to Nobel Prize Winners🎉
Best one of these ever. The interviewer barely had to speak. She did a great job setting the tone and letting them speak.
Good evening The Nobel Prize
Super interesting, brilliant in part shared discussion. In short.
Grateful indeed.
💜
I hope to make contributions to humanity in physics, chemistry and literature that are Nobel prize worthy, regardless of whether I win the prize or not. Progress is more important than ego.
Thanks for this talk and congratulations to the NP winners -from France🇫🇷.
But I’m surprised by the little interest these great thinkers have for philosophy. I thought that consciousness, sentience and subjective experience were philosophical questions long before science got interested in it. Same for human existence and human actions. Science and Philosophy must coexist for the benefit of Humanity, more than ever in our times of great danger
My take on this is that it's crucial for AI safety to objectively get the nature of generative AI right and how it compares to our biological being. That requires a scientific approach, while philosophers might confuse this quest with vague terms and interpretations without evidence. That might obscure objective reality and therefore work against timely AI safety solutions. With this extremely powerful technology and AI race we can't afford to get it wrong.
Yes , that's why i felt the table missed the presence of Han kang , the literature laureate and also the peace prize laureate ,
Ai can describe the taste of salt but has never tasted it
I wait for these discussions every year! Thank you for organising them.
Philosophy is the first established branch of Science......mathematics was the very first one.....but thanks to philosophy we as humanity were able to ponder new ways to understand the unknown.
The second branch of science is technology and then medicine.
The Wise_One
Σ+
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Long live with good health and happiness 🎉❤🎉❤
I've heard a lot of AI debates in which someone brings forward an argument that AI will not put humans completely out of work, in a way similar to how happened in history. This does not consider the fact that every time a technological innovation killed a job sector, it was only one job sector, as the said innovation was specific. This is not the case this time around. This is the first innovation that is truly general in nature. It won't take away one sector, but all at once, from manual labour to research on the edge of the known and unknown.
I like to imagine humans doing nothing but explore other planets and star systems, and let AI do all the work. Either that or we become cyborgs by combining the high knowledge capacity artificial neurons with our biological neurons to instantly become as intelligent as the AI itself. In that way, our conscious self remains in control (hopefully).
Watching from Kuala Lumpur. I don't understand the selection of Laureates this year but I'm excited about the venue.
Excellent interviewer, kept it fresh and dynamic. I like that they point to the darker sides and weren’t too self congratulatory. I am surprised by the strong and clear condemnation of colonialism of the economists, that with a little bit more color in their team would make it even more interesting. Looking forward to finding out and learning more about the prize recipients. Congratulations!
It is fascinating to observe that even Nobel laureates are not immune to the influence of their beliefs, biases, and political inclinations.
When contemplating the unknown or envisioning the future, we humans often rely on preconceived notions to construct meaning and prepare for uncertainties and I think this capacity for imagination, combined with other critical traits, has undoubtedly played a pivotal role in our evolutionary trajectory, establishing us as one of the most manipulative species on Earth.
This was a wonderful experience. It's my first time even hearing about Nobel Minds, and the presenter made a wonderful job at introducing everyone and keeping things friendly and (more importantly) warming.
Thank you so much for making this! Have a good day!
Excellent discussion! Excellent participation by laureates.
Where’s han kang ?
Lets make efforts for peace for better world
This is like 8th or 9th Nobel Minds am watching, it’s always super educative. AI may challenge humanity in the future but that will not happen automatically: this means that we humans have to be very careful about AI and other machines.
Hinton sat?
what an absolute treat! Lucky to be able to see this!
Love this panel. Almost no ego at all from some of the brightest minds! Looking forward to seeing Demis as Google CEO eventually
Great session 👍
Want more discussion on
impact of AI on jobs.
From Kerala, a state in south-western India.
أشعر بالسعادة عندما ارى هذه المرأة السودانية تتألق وسط هذه العقول العالمية الفذة
فخور بك استاذة زينب البدوي
Looking from Nepal,
Congratulations to nobel winners
Alphafold will be quite possibly one of the greatest scientific endeavors humanity has ever known.
I am here only for Geoffrey Hinton, and I think those other nobelist are trying to cover or they don't understand the future of human with AI, and there comes Geoffrey
2 fundamental disciplines - in my opinion - will eventually determine the trajectory of civilisation and the future of humanity: Science and Philosophy.
Looking from Davao. Interesting
"the kind of philosophy we don't need I think is philosophers talking about Consciousness and sentience and subjective experience I think understanding those is a scientific problem and we'll be better off without philosophers" 🔥 Hinton absolutely swinging! 🤣
I’m really enjoying this years table
This discussion became quite deep but unfortunately was getting cut off constantly. The truth is, these notable people want to really share their opinion but they are stopped due to external factors, like fear from intelligence agencies, things like whistleblowers getting silenced and etc. This is what makes me quite sad that we will never get to understand the full truth and just have to ponder on what will happen ourselves.
Fascinated discussion about AI and the challenges humanity will face. I totally believe that science and philosophy most coexist for the benefit future of humanity …. (No matter if Geoffrey Hinton laugh of this consciousness subject) thanks for sharing so wonderful insights.
Amazing topic!
Thanks for shearing this master piece
Please add subtitles
where is han kang?
hope in the future it can be even longer if they all agree, maybe 2 hours or more
Thanks 🙏 for having conversation among Nobel personalities at round table. To keep a check and balance ⚖️ upon the development of AI technology in meaningful directions, there will be need to utilise more and some more amount of energy usage. However, Non-renewabable sources of energy such as coal and hydro-carbon based petrolium fuels are not the best way to get things 😀 done. It will not only deplete the deposits of energy resources from this planet at even greater pace but it could potentially degrade our environment, also.
However, to mitigate the requirements of continuous need to energy to feed AI and computational systems along with robotics and 🤓 smart devices, humanity to make a balanced choices of utilising energy sources. And, I think 🤔 including Sunlight and Water to produce hydrogen and oxygen is a tremendous opportunity. 😃
27:24 Garry Ruvkun about the vaccines was gold ❤: “skeptics died”
why only 1 hour
feels like i am back in college where me and my friends discuss of about new things happening. Its good and bad to know that they have no idea what they are talking about !
10:28 what the??? She’s cutting him off???🤷♂️ What kind of moderator is this?
Why there is no literature laureate
Healthy discussion
Gratitude and Honor!
I wish these would go for 2-3 hours like the Joe Rogan podcast. It’s saddening to see the host cut them off in the interest of time.
Is Hinton sitting on a chair or standing?
Why are there two absent？😢
❤ End Poverty ❤
Anyway 2024
Wait until seeing me sitting there as a scientist ❤
Looking from punjab (india)
what I want to know is the research about the existence of microbiome in brain is true or not? Because if that's true then the mechanism theory on how the brain work might change
❤ madam history thing to come further humanity knowledge of physics human physical evidence Time two time half a Time Good karma to all ❤
Zeinad, you cut off the gentleman who won the noble prize in chemistry. Please don't do this
Truly Noble Minds.
12:00 that's double edge sword sir. It has provided peace also
Please google, "Will application of AI computation kill fundamental science research?".
Always good to see Zeinab Badawi hosting these conversations, brilliant!
Great talk
I thought the Novel table would be above the alarmist notions of AI. I’m disappointed in our host leading us into that foray with such vigour. Alas, good answers showed that we should not worry. What petty things.
well sweden thanks for the invite, but i assume you dont really want me here, and i mean on this video, but as you know my place, you happy, thanks thanks thanks
The chair looks uncomfortable
WoW, This is magical
this is goldmine
physics,economics,medicine,chemistry .. interesting
Gary Ruvkin is Whalter White but not Heisenberg
lovely talk though i admittedly miss hopfield
Banfield > the guys you rewarded for trying to debunk him
Geoffrey is a good man. I think what he means by consciousness being a scientific problem is valid and goes back to the argument of Roger Penrose. That is, consciousness exists in quantum realm and that is to be tested and be seen.
STOP and look at your hands. Move it. How did you even do that? And this fast?
Electricity; fundamental to existence. Yet barely, taken up from the ground. Look at Michael Levin’s two headed planery.
Anyways, Geoffrey is a good man. He is pure and siding with US and supposedly the most brilliant minds of his generation laughing at him is ridiculous.
Zeinab Badawi is the best and I hope she see this !!
what did the economists really discover that anyone with half an idea on the subject didn't already know? doesn't take a genius to understand there was good and bad that came from colonisation. They could barely answer the questions about what should happen going forward
looking from bangladesh🇧🇩🇧🇩
I'm From Bangladesh
Looking from india's chhatisgarh dhamtari understanding or i say trying to understand
We are better off without philosophers @ 18:30
💀💀 bro has no filter
bro why they keeping this host?
AI should not be available on the public domain and as a commercial product.
Merry Christmas!!! 😊😊😊
I'm very happy that once again brilliant minds are doing their best to improve life on earth. This is what we need to focus on as humanity; not countries fighting against each other.
Did he just dissed the philosphers as not science ? :) i know many of them, they are furious now ;)
We don't need Philosophers...that's coming from a Laureate whose first few words to answer the question of "how does the brain work" was "we don't know".